被拒绝对我们有益吗？

这个BBC播客在英国以外的地区由广告支持。

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK.

流行音乐能完全不涉及政治吗？

Can pop music ever be apolitical?

我是特里斯坦·雷德蒙。

I'm Tristan Redmond.

我是阿斯玛·哈立德，我们一起主持BBC的《全球故事》播客。

And I'm Asma Khalid, and together we host "The Global Story" podcast from the BBC.

世界上最成功的流行歌手之一艾德·希兰正面临他职业生涯中最大的争议，因为说唱歌手麦克莫在舞台上发表支持巴勒斯坦的言论后被取消了巡演。

One of the most successful pop stars in the world, Ed Sheeran, is facing the biggest controversy of his career because the rapper Macklemore has been dropped from tour after he made pro-Palestinian comments on stage.

现在，希兰所有的暖场嘉宾也都退出了。

Now, all of Sheeran's supporting acts have dropped out, too.

更多内容，请收听《全球故事》，在bbc.com或你获取播客的任何平台。

For more, listen to "The Global Story" on bbc.com or wherever you get your pods.

大家好，欢迎收听BBC英语学习的《六分钟英语》。

Hello, and welcome to "6 Minute English" from BBC Learning English.

我是乔治。

I'm Georgie.

我是尼尔。

And I'm Neil.

别忘了，你可以在我们的网站 bbclearningenglish.com 上免费找到词汇定义和练习表。

Don't forget, you can find vocabulary definitions and a worksheet for free on our website, bbclearningenglish.com.

那么尼尔，今天我们要谈论的是拒绝。

So Neil, today we're talking about rejection.

拒绝的意思就是对某人说不，或者不接受他们的想法或建议。

So rejection means saying no to someone or refusing to accept their idea or suggestion.

尼尔，你对拒绝有什么感觉？

Neil, how do you feel about rejection?

嗯，没有人喜欢被拒绝，但我觉得随着你年龄的增长，你会习惯它，而且经历拒绝可能是一件好事，即使感觉不太好。

Well, nobody likes rejection, but I think as you get older, you get used to it, and probably it's quite a good thing to experience rejection, even if it doesn't feel nice.

是的，我同意。

Yeah, I agree.

我们不能总是得到我们想要的，对吧？

We can't always get what we want, can we?

确实不能。在本播客中，我们将了解一种名为“拒绝疗法”的新互联网趋势，以及人们如何利用它来帮助自己变得更加自信。

We can't, no. In this podcast, we'll be learning about a new internet trend called rejection therapy and how people are using it to help them to be more confident.

好的，乔治，让我们从测验问题开始。

Okay, let's start with our quiz question, Georgie.

许多名人在成功之前都曾面临过拒绝。

Lots of famous people have faced rejection in their lives before they became successful.

但在动画师沃尔特·迪士尼成功之前，以下哪件事没有发生在他身上？

But which of these things did not happen to the animator Walt Disney before he became successful?

是A，他失去了艺术家的工作，B，他的第一家公司资金耗尽，还是C，他的第一部长篇电影失败了？

Was it A, he lost his job as an artist, B, his first business ran out of money, or C, his first full-length film was a failure?

我完全不知道，但我选A，他失去了艺术家的工作。

I've got no idea, but I'm going to go with A, he lost his job as an artist.

好的，我们将在节目结束时揭晓答案。

Okay, well, we'll find out the answer at the end of the program.

好的，尼尔，所以大多数人都不喜欢被拒绝，但可以尝试的一件事可能是所谓的拒绝疗法。

Okay, Neil, so most people don't like being rejected, but one thing to try might be something called rejection therapy.

这是一种社交媒体趋势，人们录下自己和陌生人交谈，有时会被拒绝。

It's a social media trend where people record themselves talking to strangers and sometimes being rejected.

好的，听起来挺有意思的，但我们来看看它在实践中是怎么运作的。

Okay, that sounds quite interesting, but let's find out how it works in practice.

BBC世界服务播客《世界怎么了？》的主持人汉娜·盖尔巴特

Hannah Gelbart, host of the BBC World Service podcast, "What in the World?"

尝试了这个趋势。

had a go at the trend.

我们来看看她做得怎么样。

Let's see how she got on.

我可以过来坐在你的桌子旁吗？

Can I come sit down at your table?

嘿，最近怎么样？

Hey, how's it going?

挺好的，谢谢。

Good, thank you.

你今天过得怎么样？

How's your day gone?

下午好，你好吗？

Good afternoon, how you doing?

还行，谢谢。

All right, thanks.

我能开你的出租车吗？

Can I drive your cab?

可以吗？

Can I?

我能坐到驾驶座上吗？

Can I get behind the wheel?

别傻了。

Don't be silly.

我特意跑到别的地方来，想试着面对自己的恐惧。

I've come here somewhere else to try and face my fears.

顺便逛逛街。

Maybe do a bit of shopping.

我想问一下，我能不能在这些床上睡个午觉？

I was wondering, can I have a nap in one of these beds?

我就试试看行不行？

Can I just try it out?

哇，真没想到这个居然答应了。

Wow, I didn't expect that one to be a yes.

看起来在这些例子里，大家对汉娜都挺友善的。

Well, it seems like people were pretty nice to Hannah in those examples.

是的，她还和心理学家克劳迪娅·哈蒙德聊了聊她在实验中的感受。

Yes, and she talked with psychologist Claudia Hammond about how she felt during the experiment.

实际上，当我走向第一个人时，我真的感觉到肾上腺素飙升。

And actually walking up to the first person, I felt my adrenaline really, really spiking.

我不是一个社交焦虑的人。

I'm not a socially anxious person.

我觉得自己很自信，但第一次尝试真的吓到我了。

I think I'm really confident, but that first thing really scared me.

做完第一次之后，第二次就容易多了，第三次更轻松。

And once I'd done one, the second one came easier, and the third one came even easier.

到了第四次，不管他们答应还是拒绝，我都不在意了。

And by the fourth time, I didn't even mind it whether they said yes or no.

汉娜说，在视频里她走向第一个陌生人时，感觉肾上腺素飙升。

Hannah says that when she walked up to the first stranger in the video, she felt her adrenaline spiking.

如果某样东西飙升，意味着它急剧上升。

If something spikes, it increases sharply.

汉娜通常不是一个社交焦虑的人。

Hannah is not generally a socially anxious person.

社交焦虑的人在和别人说话时会感到紧张或担忧。

Someone who is socially anxious is nervous or worried about speaking to other people.

汉娜说，每次她试着跟新的人说话，都感觉更容易了。

Each time Hannah tried to speak to a new person, she says it came easier.

“更容易了”是一种非正式的说法，意思是做某件事更容易成功。

Come easier is an informal way to say something is easier to achieve.

现在，这个社交媒体趋势被称为“拒绝疗法”，但它并不是一种正规的疗法。

Now, this social media trend is called rejection therapy, but it's not a proper form of therapy.

它还没有经过测试。

It hasn't been tested.

而且这些视频也有一些批评的声音，因为它们涉及拍摄与陌生人的互动，而有些人可能不愿意被拍。

And there are some criticisms of the videos because they involve filming your interactions with strangers, which people might not want.

但发布这些视频的人说，它们增强了他们的自信心。

But people who post the videos say they boost their confidence.

那么，为什么人们会想要去寻求被拒绝呢？

So why do people want to ask for rejection?

心理学家克劳迪娅·哈蒙德有一些想法，她在BBC世界服务播客《这个世界怎么了？》中与汉娜分享了这些想法。

Psychologist Claudia Hammond has some ideas, which she shared with Hannah on the BBC World Service podcast, "What in the World?"

我们知道的是，完美主义倾向在增加。

What we do know is that there is an increase in perfectionism.

现在年轻人更担心别人怎么评价他们。

People are more worried now, younger people, about how other people are judging them.

所以我猜想，这可能会让人更不敢跟陌生人说话，担心别人不会给他们好的评价。

And so I wonder whether that might make people more shy of speaking to strangers, worried that the people will not appraise them in a good way.

所以做这样的事来对抗这种心理，可能会让人觉得是在积极尝试，是个正面的步骤。

And so doing something like this to try to counter that might feel like a positive step to people that they're trying to do something.

而且，这些视频看起来也很有趣。

Also, they're fun to watch.

克劳迪娅说，年轻人中完美主义倾向在增加。

Claudia says there's an increase in perfectionism among young people.

完美主义就是觉得你做的每件事都必须完美。

Perfectionism is the feeling that everything you do needs to be perfect.

年轻人还担心别人怎么评价他们，也就是怎么评判他们。

Young people are also worried about how people will appraise them, which means judge them.

故意去找拒绝，可能是增强自信的一种极端方式，但也能带来意想不到的发现。

Deliberately looking for rejection might be an extreme way to become more confident, but it can lead to surprising discoveries.

是的，而且汉娜发现，她搭话的大多数陌生人都很友好，也愿意帮忙。

Yes, and Hannah found that most strangers she spoke to were friendly and happy to help.

所以她其实几乎没怎么被拒绝过。

So she didn't really experience rejection much at all.

好的，乔吉，我想现在是时候揭晓我测验问题的答案了。

Okay, Georgie, I think it's time now for the answer to my quiz question.

我问你，沃尔特·迪士尼在成功之前，没有经历过哪种拒绝？

I asked you which rejection Walt Disney didn't experience before becoming successful.

对，我选了A。我觉得他没有丢掉艺术家的那份工作。

Yes, and I went for A. I don't think he lost his job as an artist.

嗯，实际上答案是C，他的第一部长片《白雪公主和七个小矮人》并没有失败。

Well, actually, the answer was C, his first full-length film, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" was not a failure.

那部电影非常成功。

It was a huge success.

哇。

Wow.

那是他的第一部电影。

That was his first film.

真的很了不起。

That's really impressive.

确实。

It is.

好，我们来回顾一下本期节目学到的词汇，首先是rejection，意思是拒绝或否定某个想法或建议。

Okay, let's recap the vocabulary we learned in this program, starting with rejection, which means saying no or refusing an idea or suggestion.

动词spike的意思是突然上升。

The verb spike means increase suddenly.

社交焦虑的人是指在与他人交谈时感到紧张或担忧。

Someone who is socially anxious is nervous or worried about speaking to other people.

如果某件事变得更容易，就是说它更容易实现。

If something comes easier, it's easier to achieve.

完美主义是一种感觉，觉得你做的每件事都必须完美。

Perfectionism is the feeling that everything you do needs to be perfect.

如果你评价某人，你就是在评判他们。

And if you appraise someone, you judge them.

我们的六分钟又到了，但你可以在我们的网站bbclearningenglish.com上通过免费练习册测试你学到的内容。

Once again, our six minutes are up, but you can test what you've learned with the free worksheet on our website, bbclearningenglish.com.

感谢你的收听，再见。

Thank you for joining us, and goodbye.

再见。

Goodbye.

流行音乐能完全脱离政治吗？

Can pop music ever be apolitical?

我是特里斯坦·雷德蒙德。

I'm Tristan Redmond.

我是阿斯玛·哈利德，我们一起主持BBC的《全球故事》播客。

And I'm Asma Khalid, and together we host "The Global Story" podcast from the BBC.

全球最成功的流行歌手之一艾德·希兰正面临职业生涯中最大的争议，因为说唱歌手马克莫在舞台上发表亲巴勒斯坦言论后被取消了巡演。

One of the most successful pop stars in the world, Ed Sheeran, is facing the biggest controversy of his career because the rapper Macklemore has been dropped from tour after he made pro-Palestinian comments on stage.

现在，希兰所有的暖场嘉宾也都退出了。

Now, all of Sheeran's supporting acts have dropped out, too.

更多内容，请收听BBC的《全球故事》节目，可在bbc.com或任何播客平台获取。

For more, listen to "The Global Story" on bbc.com or wherever you get your pods.