我们应该吃超加工食品吗？

早上洗澡好还是晚上洗澡好？

What's best a morning shower or an evening shower?

魔术能告诉我们关于大脑的什么？

What can magic teach us about the brain?

年纪大了怎么交朋友？

Making friends as you get older.

这些话题你都能在《阅读室》里找到，这是我们网站新推出的杂志风格文章系列。

These are all topics you'll discover in The Reading Room, our new series of magazine style articles on our website.

每篇文章都配有重点词汇、理解问题和音频下载。

They each come with highlighted vocabulary, comprehension questions and an audio download.

上 bbclearningenglish.com 的《阅读室》，一边了解世界，一边提升阅读能力。

Learn about the world and improve your reading skills with The Reading Room at bbclearningenglish.com.

六分钟英语。

Six Minute English.

来自 bbclearningenglish.com。

From bbclearningenglish.com.

你好。

Hello.

这里是BBC学习英语的《六分钟英语》。

This is Six Minute English from BBC Learning English.

我是菲尔。

I'm Phil.

我是皮帕。

And I'm Pippa.

如果你今天吃过东西，那很可能你吃的食物是超加工食品，里面添加了各种人工成分，比如防腐剂和甜味剂。

If you've eaten anything today, then it's likely that some of your food was ultra processed food containing artificial ingredients like additives and sweeteners.

超加工食品无处不在，从切片面包到巧克力饼干、薯片都有。

Ultra processed foods are everywhere, from sliced bread to chocolate biscuits and crisps.

它们味道是不错，但坏消息是，超加工食品和健康问题有关。

They might taste good, but the bad news is that ultra processed foods have been linked to poor health.

它们通常含糖含盐量都很高，还和肥胖、糖尿病等问题有关。

They often contain lots of sugar and salt, and have been linked to problems like obesity and diabetes.

那我们怎么分辨哪些是超加工食品，哪些不是呢？

So how can we tell what food is ultra processed and what's not?

以下是BBC世界服务节目《究竟发生了什么？》的健康记者安妮贝尔·拉克姆的说法。

Here's health reporter Annabel Rackham on BBC World Service programme, What in the World?

超加工食品通常含有五种以上的成分，而且都是你家厨房里找不到的东西。

Ultra processed foods are things that contain five or more ingredients and things that you wouldn't find in your average kitchen.

里面会加乳化剂、防腐剂、添加剂、食用色素和甜味剂这些东西。

It's gonna have things on there like emulsifiers, preservatives, additives, dyes, and sweeteners.

安妮贝尔说，超加工食品就是那些含有一堆你家厨房里根本不会有配料的食物。

Annabel describes ultra processed foods as things containing ingredients you wouldn't find in your kitchen.

你平时吃很多超加工食品吗，皮帕？

Do you eat much ultra processed food, Pippa?

还是你尽量避开这类食物？

Or do you try to avoid it?

我以前吃很多超加工食品，现在呢，我尽量自己下厨，不再一整天吃巧克力和零食了。

I used to eat a lot of ultra processed foods, and now I try to cook everything myself and not eat things like chocolate and snacks all day.

你呢？

How about you?

我也是这么想的。

I think the same.

我尽量只用平常的食材做饭，这样才知道里面到底加了啥。

I try to cook things using just your normal ingredients, just so you know what's gone into it.

在这期节目中，我们会聊聊超加工食品，还会学一些实用的新词汇。

In this episode, we'll be discussing ultra processed food, as well as learning some useful new vocabulary.

别忘了，我们网站 bbclearningenglish.com 上还有测验和练习题可以下载。

And remember, there's also a quiz and worksheet available on our website bbclearningenglish.com.

不过现在，我有个问题想问你，Pippa。

But now, I have a question for you, Pippa.

像可乐、柠檬水这类碳酸饮料，也是常见的超加工食品。

Fizzy drinks like cola and lemonade are another example of popular ultra processed foods.

但碳酸饮料是什么时候发明的呢？

But when were fizzy drinks invented?

是1772年、1872年，还是1972年？

Was it a, 1772, b, 1872, or c, 1972?

我觉得肯定没到1972年，但1772年也太早了吧，我选b) 1872年。

Well, I think it was before 1972, but 1772 sounds like too early, so I'm going to say b) 1872.

答案我们留到节目最后再揭晓。

We'll find out the answer at the end of the programme.

超加工食品流行的一个原因，就是方便。

One reason for the popularity of ultra processed food is convenience.

接下来，我们听听健康记者安妮贝尔的采访，她跟BBC世界服务节目《究竟何物》的主持人汉娜·盖尔巴特聊了聊。

Let's hear more from health reporter Annabel, who talks here with Hannah Gelbart, presenter of BBC World Services' What in the World?

我觉得方便确实是主要问题。

So I do think convenience is the main issue there.

比如即食餐，放进微波炉几分钟就好了，热乎乎的，直接就能吃。

And again, with a ready meal, you put it in the microwave for a couple of minutes, it's done, it's hot, it serves you.

但有时候，从头开始做一顿新鲜饭菜，可得花上老长时间。

Whereas, you know, sometimes cooking a fresh meal from scratch, that can take a really long time.

你最心虚的加工食品是什么？

What's your ultra processed guilty food?

一包饼干之类的吧。

Packet of biscuits, something like that.

一块蛋糕。

A cake.

这可是我的小罪恶享受。

Is my that's my guilty pleasure.

像即食餐这样的超加工食品，就是方便。

Ultra processed foods, like ready meals, are convenient.

即食餐就是超市里已经做好的饭菜，放进微波炉热几分钟就能吃。

A ready meal is a meal from a supermarket that has already been prepared and can be heated up quickly in a microwave.

这比从头开始做饭可快多了——所谓‘从头开始’，就是不用任何现成的材料，一切自己动手。

That's a lot quicker and easier than cooking from scratch an idiom meaning to do something from the very beginning without using anything that's already been made.

虽然超加工食品通常不健康，但真挺好吃的。

Even though ultra processed foods are often unhealthy, they taste good.

所以安贝尓把巧克力当成她的罪恶享受。

That's why Annabel calls chocolate her guilty pleasure.

所谓罪恶享受，就是你明明知道不该碰，但就是忍不住喜欢，还觉得有点不好意思的东西。

A guilty pleasure is something you enjoy, but think you shouldn't, and feel a little embarrassed about.

超加工食品这个话题挺棘手的。

Ultra processed food is a tricky topic.

我们知道这些食品跟健康问题有关联，可它们便宜、方便，还特别好吃。

We know these foods have been linked to poor health, but at the same time they're cheap, convenient and taste good.

那我们到底该怎么办？

So what should we do?

接下来听听汉娜和安贝尓在BBC节目《究竟世界怎么了》里是怎么聊这个的。

Here's Hannah and Annabel discussing this for BBC programme, What in the World?

我偶尔吃一包薯片，应该没问题吧？

Is it okay for me to have a packet of crisps once in a while?

我们是不是得彻底把超加工食品从饮食里删掉？

Should we be cutting ultra processed foods out of our diets completely?

还是说，我们偶尔吃一吃也没关系？

Or is there a way for us to still enjoy them from time to time?

我觉得最好的办法就是别慌。

I think the best thing to do is just not to panic.

什么东西都得适量。

Everything is fine in moderation.

汉娜问，偶尔吃一次超加工食品可以吗？

Hannah asks if it's okay to eat ultra processed foods once in a while or from time to time.

“偶尔”和“时不时”意思就是不常发生。

The phrases once in a while and from time to time mean occasionally.

有时候会吃，但不多。

Sometimes, but not very often.

安妮贝尔用“适量”这个词回应，意思是别吃太多任何东西。

Annabelle replies using the phrase everything in moderation, which advises us that it's best to avoid too much of anything.

这听起来挺靠谱的，也让我吃巧克力的时候不用再有负罪感了。

That sounds sensible to me, and it also means I won't feel bad about eating chocolate now and then.

好了，皮帕，该揭晓我问题的答案了。

Okay, Pippa, it's time to reveal the answer to my question.

我之前问你碳酸饮料是什么时候发明的。

Now, I asked you when fizzy drinks were invented.

你说是1872年。

You said 1872.

可惜答案其实是1772年。

I'm afraid the correct answer was 1772.

据说当时人们用碳酸水来预防航海时的坏血病。

Apparently, carbonated water was used to try to prevent scurvy on sea voyages.

哇，这太惊人了。

Wow, that is amazing.

我真没想到居然这么早就有了。

I wouldn't have thought it was that long ago.

对啊。

Right.

我们来回顾一下刚才学过的词汇，首先是‘即食餐’，就是超市里已经做好、你拿回家热一热就能吃的饭。

Let's recap the vocabulary we've learned, starting with ready meal, a meal from a supermarket that has already been prepared so you can heat it up quickly.

如果你‘从头开始’做一件事，那就是从零开始，完全不用现成的东西。

If you do something from scratch, you do it from the very beginning without using anything that's already been made.

‘罪恶的享受’指的是你很喜欢、但又觉得不该这么干，所以有点心虚或不好意思的事。

A guilty pleasure is something you enjoy, but feel guilty or embarrassed about because you think you shouldn't do it.

‘偶尔’和‘时不时’都说的是不经常、偶尔一次的意思。

The phrases once in a while and from time to time mean occasionally, not very often.

最后，‘凡事有度’这句话是劝人别过度，什么东西都别贪多。

And finally, the phrase everything in moderation is used to advise someone that it's best to avoid too much of anything.

好了，我们这六分钟又到了，如果你还想吃更多干货，就去我们的网站 bbclearningenglish.com，那里还有更多好吃又有用的内容。

Once again, our six minutes are up, but if you're hungry for more, head over to our website, bbclearningenglish.com for more tasty topics and useful vocabulary.

咱们很快再见。

See you again soon.

不过现在，先说再见啦。

But for now, it's goodbye.

再见。

Bye.

六分钟英语。

Six Minute English.

来自bbc学习英语网。

From bbclearningenglish.com.