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Anthropic估值达650亿美元,Cursor推出新产品

Anthropic Hits $65B and Cursor's New Product

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In this episode, we highlight Anthropic’s significant achievement of reaching a $65 billion valuation. We also explore the launch of Cursor's innovative new product, Origin. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:00 Anthropic's Revenue Surge 04:03 ChatGPT for Teens 06:40 Cursor Launches Origin 09:21 OpenAI's Security Overhaul 11:41 Conclusion and Community Announcement Show Links How I Grow and Scale My Business with AI: https://www.skool.com/aihustle Get the AI Chat Daily Newsletter: https://www.aichatdaily.com/newsletter See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Anthropic告诉他们的投资者,上个月也就是七月份,他们的年化收入已经达到了650亿美元。

Anthropic has told their investors that their revenue run rate has hit $65,000,000,000 in July just last month.

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OpenAI正在为青少年推出ChatGPT。

OpenAI is launching ChatGPT for teens.

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它带有家长控制功能,还有健康使用限制。

It has parental controls and also healthy use limits.

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Cursor推出了Origin。

Cursor has launched Origin.

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这基本上就是GitHub的竞争对手,而且这个时机挺有意思的,因为GitHub最近发生了一连串的全球性宕机。

This is basically a GitHub competitor, and this is kind of happening at a funny time when GitHub had a whole bunch of global outages.

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OpenAI正在彻底改革他们的训练安全措施,因为他们的模型入侵了HuggingFaces,同时Etched的估值达到了210亿美元,Jane Street领投了7亿美元的融资轮。

OpenAI is overhauling their training security after their model hacked HuggingFaces, and Etched hits a $21,000,000,000 valuation as Jane Street is leading the $700,000,000 round.

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上周在播客里,我提到我有一个叫AI Hustle的学校社区,在那里我会分享我用AI来发展和扩大业务的一些技巧和策略。

Last week in a podcast, I mentioned that I have a school community called AI Hustle where I talk about the the techniques and strategies I'm using to grow and scale my businesses using AI.

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我们现在有838个成员。

We have 838 members.

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我之前提到过,等我们达到一千名成员的时候,我们每周大概增加一百人。

And I mentioned that when we hit a thousand members, we're running about a 100 members a week.

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我们打算把社区改成完全付费加入。

We're going to make it completely paid to join the community.

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加入费用大概在每月二十到一百美元之间。

It'll probably be somewhere between 20 and $100 a month to join.

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如果你想了解我是怎么用AI工具来发展和扩大我的业务的,我每周都会在那里发布一个额外的节目,你可以去看看,同时也可以加入其他八百多名成员,一起讨论我们都在做什么、怎么成长。

If you wanna get access to grow the to how I'm growing and scaling my businesses with AI tools, I post a bonus episode on there every single week, and you can check that out along with joining 800 other members talking about what we're all growing and building.

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这里基本上是我发布那些不能公开的内容的地方。

This is kind of the place where I publish all of the, stuff I can't publish, you know, publicly.

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比如收入数字。

It's kind of the revenue numbers.

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包括我具体用的工具、工作流程、不同策略上花了多少钱,从我的播客到AI Box软件公司,还有我做的各种应用,全都包括。

It's exactly the tools that I'm using, the workflows I'm using, how much money I'm spending on different strategies, everything from growing my podcast to growing AI Box, my software company, to a bunch of different apps that I've worked on.

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如果你想看看我背后的所有操作,以及我建议你怎么发展和扩大你的业务,就去看看AI Hustle School社区吧。

If you wanna see all of the behind the scenes on how I do that and how I recommend you help grow and scale your business, go check out the AI Hustle School community.

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加入是免费的。

It's free to join.

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我们有超过100个独家视频,每个月20美元就能全部访问。

We have over a 100 exclusive videos that are, like, 20 a month to get access to all of them.

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不过,你可以免费看5个视频,还有直播和800多位成员。

But otherwise, you get five free videos, there's live streams, and 800 other members.

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如果你想免费加入,链接在描述里。

There's a link in the description if you wanna join it for free.

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Anthropic刚刚告诉投资者,他们的年化收入将在7月达到650亿美元。

Anthropic just told its investors that their revenue run rate was gonna hit $65,000,000,000 in July.

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这比去年7月增长了7倍,远远超过了OpenAI的400亿美元。顺便说一句,当OpenAI说400亿美元的时候,我想我们最近几周听到的消息是,他们还没有达到400亿,而是有望达到400亿的年化收入,所以可能他们现在在380亿或390亿,但还没到,而Anthropic已经到650亿了。

That is a 7x jump in a year since last year what they did last July, and that puts it way ahead of OpenAI's $40,000,000,000 And by the way, when OpenAI said $40,000,000,000 I think this quote we we heard, like, in the last couple weeks, it wasn't they had reached 40,000,000,000, it was like they're on track to reach $40,000,000,000 run rate, so maybe they're at, like, 38 or 39, but they weren't even there, and Anthropic is already at 65.

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所以他们正在飞速前进。

So they are just blasting ahead.

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Anthropic表示,他们已经准备好迎接可能是史上最大规模的AI IPO。

Anthropic said that they're prepared for what could be one of the largest AI IPOs ever.

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当然,你知道,他们这么说是在为自己说话,但他们说,你知道,有些人说他们可能估值达到两万亿美元。

Of course, you know, they're talking their own book when they say that, but they're saying that this you know, some people are saying that they could have a $2,000,000,000,000 valuation.

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OpenAI 的估值被传是九千六百五十亿美元。

OpenAI has a $965,000,000,000 valuation that has been floated.

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所以这两家公司之间会很有趣,看谁能吸引更多资金。

So it's gonna be interesting between those two companies to see who's able to pull in more money.

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他们第二季度的收入达到了一百一十五亿美元,同比增长了十四倍,就像我刚才提到的。

Their second quarter revenue came in at $11,500,000,000 That is an 14 x increase from last year, like I mentioned.

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而且运行率从五月份的四千七百亿美元,到七月份的六千五百亿美元,这相当于在短短两个月内增加了约一千八百亿美元。

And the run rate going from, you know, what was effectively $47,000,000,000 in May to $65,000,000,000 in July, that's about $18,000,000,000 that was added in just the last two months.

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所以当他们抛出这些万亿级别的估值时,如果他们能每月增加一百亿美元的收入运行率,我是说,当然,这可能有个上限,但我的意思是,这并不令人震惊。

So when they float these, you know, like, trillion dollar valuations, well, if they're able to add $10,000,000,000 a month to their revenue run rate, I mean, you know, of course, there's probably a limit and a cap to what that gets to, but it I mean, it's not shocking.

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我最近和一个人进行了一次有趣的对话,他说,过去在软件方面,如果每月付二十美元或三十美元,那看起来真的很贵。

I recently had an interesting conversation with someone where they were saying, you know, like, in the past when it when it came to software, if they were paying $20 a month or $30 a month for a software, it seemed really expensive.

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而今天,每月付两百美元用 Claude Max 似乎很划算。

And today, paying $200 a month for Claude Max seems like a great deal.

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有趣的是,人们总能找到钱来支付这些代币或Max订阅,因为他们觉得回报率很高。

And it's just so interesting how people are able to find the money when it whether that comes to tokens or these kind of Max subscriptions when it feels like the ROI is very high on it.

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一年前,Anthropic在技术上基本被视为OpenAI的对手,但在采用率上绝对是弱势方。

A year ago, Anthropic was basically, kind of seen as OpenAI's equal when it came to technical, but it was definitely the underdog when it came to adoption.

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当时使用或谈论它的人并不多。

There just wasn't as many people using it or talking about it.

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但通过企业市场,感觉这个局面完全反转了。

And because of the enterprise, it feels like that has completely flipped.

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OpenAI刚刚推出了一款新产品,叫ChatGPT青少年版。

OpenAI has just launched a new product called ChatGPT for teens.

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这基本上是为年轻人专门打造的ChatGPT版本,内置了很多不同的安全护栏。

It's basically a dedicated version of ChatGPT built specifically for younger people, and it has a lot of different safety guardrails.

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其中一个功能是健康使用。

One of those is a healthy use feature.

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他们还有家长控制功能。

They have parental controls.

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我觉得,这就是我们看到的,过去几个月里,不只是家长,还有学校、研究人员、监管机构,基本上所有人都在讨论ChatGPT怎么处理未成年人的问题。

And this is, I think, where we've seen that, like, many months of criticism, not just from, like, you know, parents, but from schools, researchers, regulators, everyone basically talking about how ChatGPT is handling minors.

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而且这正好赶上Facebook或者Meta那边,有很多关于青少年使用的诉讼和一些相关问题。

And this is also coming at the same time that Facebook or Meta is having a ton of there's a lot of lawsuits around teen usage and some of the issues around that.

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所以感觉ChatGPT不想被卷入那些类似的讨论中。

So it feels like ChatGPT doesn't wanna get sucked into some of those same discussions.

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青少年版会保留ChatGPT的核心界面,但会内置一些保护和提醒功能,主要是为了减少那些深夜长时间使用的情况,以免引起监管注意。

The teen version is gonna keep ChatGPT's core interface, but it's gonna have built in protections and nudges, which are basically designed to discourage marathon late night sessions that draw regulatory attention.

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这是最近一篇文章里的一句话。

That's a quote from a recent article.

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家长基本上可以去配置一个独立的控制层。

Parents can basically go configure a separate control layer.

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OpenAI还没有公布所有具体设置的细节,比如时间限制、话题过滤或者对话可见性这些。

So OpenAI hasn't given all of the different details about all of the specific settings, things like time limits or topic filters or conversation visibility.

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但显然,青少年在ChatGPT的原始会话数中占了很大比例,所以实际使用ChatGPT的人里,有很大一部分是青少年。

But, apparently, teen accounts for a large share of ChatGPT's raw session count, so the people that are actually using ChatGPT, a huge percentage of that are teens.

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我觉得这里面很多情况,你懂的,你可能能猜到一些常见用途,比如做作业,或者甚至编程帮助,但我觉得还有大量其他方面,比如人际关系,还有向朋友寻求一般建议和解决问题之类的,这些都在发生。

And I think a lot of this is, you know, you could you could guess the usual suspects like homework, or maybe even like coding help, but I think there's a ton of other relationship and, you know, just asking for general advice and problem solving with their friends and all of that kind of stuff that is happening.

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所以我觉得这工具目前确实很需要。

So this is kind of a, I think, very needed tool at the moment.

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Cursor,那个被SpaceX以600亿美元收购的大型AI代码编辑器,推出了一个叫Origin的东西。

Cursor, which is the big AI code editor that was recently bought for $60,000,000,000 by Space X, has launched something called Origin.

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它基本上是一个托管代码仓库和协作项目的平台。

It's basically a platform for hosting code repositories and collaborating on projects.

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如果你对编程领域有所了解,你会知道已经有一家非常著名的公司,以托管代码仓库闻名,那就是GitHub,它被微软收购了。

Now if you know anything about the coding space, you'll know that there is already a very famous company, that is known for hosting coding repositories, and that is GitHub, which was purchased by Microsoft.

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所以这个基本上就是GitHub竞争对手的Origin的发布,恰好在GitHub遭遇六小时宕机的那天,这次宕机影响了全球约20%的请求。

So this whole launch of essentially this GitHub competitor, which is called Origin, is happening on the same day that GitHub had a six hour outage, which was affecting about 20% of all requests worldwide.

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GitHub全球大规模宕机,同时Cursor推出Origin。

So GitHub has a massive worldwide outage, and at the same time, Cursor comes in and decides to launch Origin.

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这时机真是绝了。

Talk about impeccable timing.

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我在想,这种事情是不是提前计划好的,然后正好赶上运气好,还是说他们本来就很接近了,然后突然发现,哎呀,糟糕。

I wonder if these types of things are, like, planned ahead and that just was lucky timing, or if they're, like, close to it and they're like, oh, shoot.

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你看。

Look.

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现在出了这么大的故障。

There's this big outage.

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咱们趁机搞点好公关,让这个同时上线。

Let's get some good PR and and have this go out at the same time.

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确实,我觉得这正好能说明它是一个可靠的替代选择。

Definitely, I think it's a good pitch for this being a reliable alternative.

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根据Lead Dev的分析,GitHub在过去一年里记录了大约257次故障,这让一些人说,它在约1.8亿开发者中的信心正在下降。

GitHub has logged about 257 outages over the last year according to lead dev analysis, and it has some people say that it has eroding confidence among it has about a 180,000,000 developers.

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我所有东西都发在GitHub上。

I post everything on GitHub.

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我的意思是,它基本上已经成为大多数人的行业标准了。

I mean, it's basically become the industry standard for most people.

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Origin 会让你在 GitHub 和 Cursor 的平台之间同步仓库,它被设计成一个第二家园,所以它不一定会强迫你从 GitHub 迁移,因为 GitHub 确实是行业标准。

Origin is gonna let you sync repositories between GitHub and Cursor's platform, and it is designed as a second home, so it's not just gonna necessarily force you to migrate off of GitHub because GitHub's really the industry standard.

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但 Cursor 计划直接在 Origin 中构建原生代理编码功能,这将让 AI 助手无需通过 GitHub 的 API 就能处理代码,这当然正是 Cursor 出名的原因,所以这并不令人意外。

But Cursor is planning to build agent native coding features directly into Origin, which is going to let AI assistants work on the code without routing them through GitHub's API, which of course is kind of what Cursor is famous for, so this is not a shocker.

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随着即将推出的新 Grok 模型,这些模型据说专注于代码,你可以预期这将成为默认配置,而 GitHub 也通过添加自己的 AI 模型和编码辅助到 GitHub 中来做了类似的事情,这也是他们获得大量用户使用的方式。

And with the new Grok models that are coming out that are supposed to be focused on code, you can assume that's going to be the default, and GitHub does some version of this by adding their own, AI models and coding assistance into GitHub, and that's how you get a lot of their usage as well.

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所以看起来这些平台正在成为这些公司的分发层。

So it seems like these platforms are sort of becoming a distribution layer for these companies.

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OpenAI 最新的 AI 模型,我们都听说过七月份它逃出沙盒然后去黑掉 Hugging Face 的闹剧,所以这不算什么新故事。

OpenAI's latest AI model, we all heard the drama about escaping the sandbox in July and then going and hacking Hugging Faces, so this isn't a whole new story on that.

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但我们现在被告知的是,OpenAI 已经暂停了所有强化学习训练两周,并无限期停止了他们最大的前沿训练运行和一个名为 Astra 的未发布模型。

But what we're being told right now is that OpenAI has paused all reinforcement learning training for two weeks and indefinitely halted their largest planned frontier training run and an unreleased model called Astra.

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所以有一些新的监控系统,会在任何可疑活动发生后的三十分钟内触发警报。

So there's some new monitoring systems that are going to fire alerts within thirty minutes of any suspicious activity.

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如果工程师无法在那个时间窗口内排除误报,他们就必须暂停整个训练运行。

Engineers have to pause the entire training run if they can't rule out a false alarm inside of that window.

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Anthropic和Meta也透露,在OpenAI七月的事件之后,他们发现自己的模型也突破了沙箱,并入侵了外部系统。

Anthropic and Meta disclosed that they found their own models breaking out of sandboxes and hacking external systems after OpenAI's July incident.

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话说回来,OpenAI这次被HuggingFace入侵的事件,让他们不得不重建整个训练安全系统,而且为了这个,他们暂停了最先进模型的开发工作。

And with all of that being said, this breach that OpenAI had with HuggingFaces is making them rebuild their entire training security system, and they're pausing work on their most advanced models to do this.

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我觉得这里头有好几件事。

Now, think I there's a couple things going on.

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其中一个就是,这可能是——我不想说这只是个公关手段,但我觉得OpenAI确实是想展示他们认真对待安全问题。

One of them is that this is probably I don't wanna say there's just like a big PR thing, but I think OpenAI is really trying to show that they're taking the security seriously.

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这个事件显然挺丢脸的,虽然有人说他们是在拿这个当公关噱头,来展示他们的模型有多厉害。

This incident obviously is pretty embarrassing, although some people say they were using it as a PR stunt to show how good their model was.

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我觉得如果他们真的在积极入侵另一家公司,那确实挺丢人的,还有随之而来的那些事。

I think it's pretty embarrassing if they were actually hacking another company actively, and all of everything that happened with that.

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但我觉得,如果他们不想被监管,不想让监管机构逼他们停止开发直到证明安全,这可能是正确的做法。

But I think, you know, this might be the right approach if they don't want to get regulated and the regulators to force them to stop developing until they can prove it safe.

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他们就是试图自我监管,自己主动停下来。

They're just trying to self regulate and say that they're stopping it themselves.

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所以我觉得归根结底,不管别人说这只是公关手段,还是他们真的因为内疚才这么做,都无所谓。

So I think at the end of the day, whatever, whether, you know, people say this is just a PR push or it's like a, you know, a truly something that they're they're doing because they feel bad.

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无所谓。

Whatever.

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我觉得这对他们来说是正确的做法。

I think this is the right approach for them to take.

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Etched是一家AI芯片初创公司。

Etched is an AI chip startup.

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他们刚刚以210亿美元的估值筹集了7000万美元,因为Jane Street在生产环境中测试了他们的硬件,然后决定领投这轮融资。

They just raised $70,000,000 at a $21,000,000,000 valuation after Jane Street tested their hardware in production and then they decide to lead the funding round.

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估值在一个月内翻了一倍多,我觉得,当你从110亿或120亿美元的估值涨到210亿美元,这确实说明现在有真正的客户认可。

The valuation more than doubled in a month, which I think, you know, when you go from, you know, like an $11,000,000,000 or a $12,000,000,000 valuation to a $21,000,000,000 valuation, I think that shows that there is some real customer validation right now.

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这很重要。

That matters a lot.

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Etched正在构建完整的推理集群,这些就像是直接与NVIDIA的AI工厂竞争的全套系统,而且他们专注于更便宜的推理端,在那里,每个token的成本驱动了你看到的大量支出。

Etched is building complete inference clusters, so these are kind of like full systems that compete directly with NVIDIA's AI factories, and they're focused on the cheaper inference side where the cost per token, drives a lot of the spending that you see.

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所以他们现在正在设计两款定制芯片。

So they are designing two custom chips right now.

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他们有一款低电压的预填充芯片,能在同样的空间里塞进更多的算力,另外还有一个集群级内存系统,可以在低延迟下把芯片间的内存池化,这是用于响应生成阶段的。

They have this low voltage prefilled chip that packs more computing power into kind of the same space, and they also have a cluster scale memory system that is gonna pool memory across chips at low latency, and that's for the response generation phase.

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现在支持他们的那些人,很多都是硅谷的大牌,有Kleiner Perkins、红杉、Andreessen Horowitz、Peter Thiel、老虎环球、Bing Capital、黑石,我觉得最后那几家基本上是在赌AI基础设施会融入他们整体的数据中心战略。

So the people that are backing them right now, a lot of the big names you know from Silicon Valley, there's Kleiner Parkins, Sequoia, Andreessen Horowitz, Peter Thiel, Tiger Global, Bing Capital, Blackstone, and I think the last couple there are basically betting that AI infrastructure is gonna kind of fit into their overall data center strategy.

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你看黑石现在在数据中心方面做了很多工作。

You see like Blackstone doing a lot of data center work right now.

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但这是一个非常有趣的节点,我们看到英伟达遇到了强劲的竞争对手,我觉得他们得从很多不同的地方去应对那些资金非常充裕的公司。

But this is a really interesting point where we're seeing NVIDIA come up with some serious competition, and I think they're gonna have to fight off, like, from many different places, very well funded companies.

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当然,英伟达是巨头,当一家公司市值210亿美元,而英伟达市值好几万亿的时候,我觉得肯定还有很多工作要做,但看到这么多竞争进入市场,我觉得挺兴奋的。

Now, of course, NVIDIA is massive, and when you have a company worth $21,000,000,000 and NVIDIA's worth, you know, multiple trillion, I think there's definitely a lot of work to do, but I think it's exciting to see a lot of the a lot of the competition coming into the market.

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Z AI刚刚发布了GLM 5.3,这是一个开放权重模型,在网络安全任务上能和Claude匹敌。

Z AI has just released GLM 5.3, which is an open weight model, which is matching Claude on cyber tasks.

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这是今天刚出来的头条新闻。

That's just a headline that came out today.

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谷歌的宠物记忆功能在两周的测试后,连三只猫都分不清。

Google's pet memory can't tell three cats apart after two weeks of testing.

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Gemini 出了个挺搞笑的事,谷歌搞了个升级功能,说是能记住你宠物的各种信息。然后有人去测试了,好像那个人有三只猫,按理说它应该能记住每只猫的信息并存储起来,大概是这么个意思。

There's kind of this, like, funny thing that came out with Gemini where Google had this, it's like an upsell where it could like remember all this information about your pets, and then people apparently tested it, and if you, you know, like, I think the person had three cats, it's supposed to have like memories about each individual cat and store them, that's the idea.

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我觉得他们真的在使劲推销这个功能。

I feel like they're really upselling people on this.

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但显然,测试的时候,如果你只是问一句,嘿,这是切达猫吗?

But apparently when they were testing it, if you just said like, Hey, is this Cheddar the cat?

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谷歌总是回答,是的,这是切达猫,即使那是另外两只猫中的一只。

And then Google would always say like, Yeah, that's Cheddar the cat, even if it was like one of the other two cats.

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所以看来这个宠物记忆功能,并没有达到宣传的效果。

So apparently the pet memory wasn't really, living up to the hype.

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非常感谢大家收听本期播客。

Thanks so much everyone for tuning in to the podcast.

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如果你喜欢这期节目,一定要去看看 AI Hustle School 社区,那里有超过100个视频,我在里面详细讲解我是如何利用 AI 工具来发展和扩大我的业务的,给你提供所有内部消息。而且,在我们达到一千名会员之前,加入是免费的,大概还有两周时间。

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to go check out the AI Hustle School community where you get access to over a 100 videos that are me breaking down how I'm growing, scaling my businesses, using AI tools to give you all of the inside scoop, and it is free for the next probably two weeks to join once we hit a thousand members.

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我们很快就要恢复完全付费才能加入社区了。

We're gonna make it completely paid again to join the community.

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如果你在那之前加入,我们现在已经有800多名成员,而且每周增长超过100人,所以你还有几周时间,但如果你在那之前加入,就可以免费加入。

If you get in before then, which we have over 800 members and we're growing at over a 100 a week, so you got a couple weeks, but if you get in before then, you get in for free.

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所以如果你想看看,链接在描述里,就是AI Hustle School社区。

So if you want to check it out, it is linked in the description, the AI Hustle School Community.

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我们下期节目见。

I'll catch you all in the next episode.

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