AEE 2602：这原本只是一集，现在却成了金矿！

这是《All Ears English》播客第2602期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six zero two.

本来只是个普通节目，现在居然成了宝藏。

This was just an episode, and now it's a gold mine.

欢迎收听《All Ears English》播客，全球下载量已超过两亿次。

Welcome to the All Ears English Podcast downloaded more than 200,000,000 times.

是不是觉得自己的英语进步卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

今天我们会教你如何摆脱顾虑，流利说英语——别追求完美，关键是真连接。主持人是美国本土的奥布里·卡特、雅思达人林赛·麦卡锡，还有英语冒险家琳赛·麦卡锡，他们从亚利桑那和科罗拉多为你带来节目。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfect perfection with your American host, Aubrey Carter, the IELTS whiz, and Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, coming to you from Arizona and Colorado, USA.

想每周收到字幕邮件？快去 allearsenglish.com/subscribe 订阅吧。

And to get your transcripts delivered by email every week, go to allearsenglish.com forward slash subscribe.

真正建立连接的关键，是讲清楚某件事在你生命里是怎么慢慢变重要的。

A huge part of connection is showing how the importance of something in your life has evolved over time.

今天就来学这个地道英语表达，帮你轻松应对真实对话场景。

Learn this key native English skill today for connection moments.

你有没有过说完一段英文对话后，心里想：其实我本可以说得更好？

Have you ever finished a conversation in English and thought, I know I can say that better.

你完全听懂了对方说的每一句话。

You understood everything that was said.

你脑子里有想法、有观点，甚至还想讲个笑话。

You had ideas, opinions, maybe even a joke.

可轮到你开口时，说出来的却比你心里想的短得多，也简单得多，完全不像你在母语里那样表达。

But when it was your turn to speak, your answer came out shorter than you wanted or more basic than how you would say it in your own language.

这种情况，往往是因为你的理解力比口语表达能力强。

This happens when your understanding is stronger than your speaking fluency.

好消息是，这种差距特别常见，只要搞清楚自己卡在哪儿，就能轻松解决。

The good news, that gap is very common and very fixable once you know exactly where you are.

花两分钟做个免费的流利度测试，马上知道你现在的英语水平，以及下一步该重点练什么。

Take our free two minute fluency quiz to discover your current English level and what to work on next.

去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 试试吧。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

就是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

嗨，奥布里。

Hello, Aubrey.

你今天怎么样？

How are you today?

最近咋样？

How's it going?

我挺好的，林赛。

I'm great, Lindsay.

你呢？

How are you?

今天状态不错。

Feeling good today.

挺好的。

Feeling good.

奥布里，你是什么时候搬进现在的房子的？

Aubrey, when did you move into your current house?

大概十一年前，我们搬进了这栋房子。

About eleven years ago, we moved into this house.

是的。

Yeah.

已经好一阵子了。

It's been a while.

对你来说，房子什么时候才有了家的感觉？

And so for you, how long did it take until your house felt like a home?

哦，这问题问得好。

Oh, that's a great question.

我们把东西和孩子安顿下来后，很快就觉得这是家了。

Pretty quickly once we had our stuff in here and our kids in here, I would say it felt like a home pretty quickly.

但有意思的是，我们刚搬进来时，地上全是瓷砖。

But interestingly when we moved in there was tile everywhere.

都是那种大块的浅棕色瓷砖，特别滑。

Big kind of tan tiles that were very slick.

只要地上有点水，孩子们从泳池回来一踩就摔。

If there was any water on the floor, the kids would come in from the pool and just slip and fall.

所以我们赶紧把瓷砖全换了。

And so we replaced that as quickly as we could.

可能这点还挺关键的。

So that maybe had something to do with it.

等把瓷砖换掉以后，我就觉得，嗯，

Once we got rid of that tile, I'm like, okay,

真不错。

Nice.

这下子，

This

才真有家的感觉了。

feels more like a home.

不错嘛。

Nice.

太喜欢这种感觉了。

I love that.

而且我觉得吧，这事其实跟时间没关系。

I mean, I would also argue that maybe it's not even about time.

重要的是身边有合适的人，还有你的宠物陪着

It's about right people and your pets

这房子里

in the

咱们一家人都住在这儿，说不定还把各种回忆都挂墙上了，整个房子都按咱们自己的喜好改造，就像

house, your kids are in the house, and you're putting your memories on the wall maybe, and you're customizing the house like

你说得太对了，就是这么回事。

you said in Exactly your right.

家里摆上自己的东西，有合心意的家具，墙上也贴满了家人的物件，一大家子都在这儿，这才真的像个家的样子。

When you have your things, your furniture, your stuff in the wall, your family's there, it's going to feel like home.

是的，完全对。

Yeah, totally.

没错。

Totally.

所以，我很想知道咱们的听众里有没有人注意到这个问题啊？

So, I'm excited to see if any of our listeners caught the question here, right?

因为我之前问过，你是什么时候搬进房子的？又是从什么时候开始觉得它像家的？

Because I asked you, when did you move into your house and when did it start to feel like a home?

对吧？

Right?

对吧？

Right?

你的房子什么时候才开始有家的感觉？

When does your house start to feel like a home?

很多人可能会觉得这俩词儿是一回事，但其实意思有点不一样。

A lot of people might be surprised and think that's the same word, but it does have a little different meaning.

确实如此。

It does.

所以呢，我们收到一位节目朋友发来的问题，我今天就念出来。

And so we have a question that came in from a friend of the show and I will go ahead and read it today.

可以吗？

Shall I?

希望你最近过得不错。

I hope you're doing well.

上周末我看《断背山》的时候，有个被改造的主人公走进新布置好的房间，一脸震撼地说：‘这曾经是个房子。’

I was watching Queer Eye over the weekend, and one of the heroes walked into their newly designed space awestruck and said it was a house.

现在，它成了家。

Now it's a home.

最近几天我一直在回味这句话，突然意识到，对刚学英语的人来说，这两个词可能真的挺让人困惑的。

I've been enjoying that sentence a lot over the past few days, and it struck me how confusing those words might be for someone new to English.

如果你还没聊过这个话题，不妨考虑一下。

Throwing this out there for an idea if you haven't covered it already.

太好了。

Great.

这个点子我喜欢。

Love this idea.

没错，这句话真棒。

And yes, this is a great phrase.

我特别想教这个，因为它特别灵活。

And I'm excited to to teach this because it's flexible.

我们不只是用在‘house’和‘home’上。

We don't just use this with house and home.

这种用法其实挺多的。

We use this with a lot of things.

哦，确实。

Oh, yeah.

我超期待讲这个。

I am excited for this.

今天咱们要聊点特别棒的内容。

We're gonna get into some good stuff today.

不过在那之前，跟往常一样，我想特别感谢那些花时间给我们写评价的听众们。

But first, as we always try to do, I wanna call out our amazing listeners that took the time to go and leave us a review.

谢谢来自伊朗的Lisa，2月11日在Castbox给我们的评价。

So thank you to Lisa from Iran on Castbox on February 11.

也谢谢来自伊朗的Mohammed Vesete，同样是2月11日在Castbox留的评。

Thank you to Mohammed Vesete, also from Iran on February 11 in Castbox.

所以啊，各位，你们要是给我们留评价，我们一定尽力回应。

So, guys, when you leave us a review, we will do our best.

首先，我们一定会认真读，这对我们真的特别重要。

Well, certainly we'll read it, first of all, and that really matters to us.

对吧，Aubrey？

Right, Aubrey?

我们做这个，说到底不就是为了你们这些听众吗？

I mean, we do this for our listeners, right?

当然了。

Absolutely.

一切都是为了你们。

It's about them.

对吧？

Yeah?

对，我们真的会看每一条评论。

Yeah, we read those reviews.

也很感谢你们打的评分。

We appreciate the ratings.

我们会尽量在节目里念出你的名字。

We will try to read your name on the show.

而且经常是琳赛会把所有评论和暖心留言发给整个团队。

But yes, and we often Lindsay will send all our whole team the reviews and the nice comments.

真的能让我们一整天都心情超好。

It really does make our day.

这真让我们一整天都开心。

It makes our day.

几天前我们刚把一条评论转给团队，特别真挚动人。

We just sent through one through to the team a few days ago, which was just really heartfelt and genuine.

你们一告诉我们，我们就能感受到那份真诚。

And we could feel that genuineness when you guys let us know.

如果你想在节目里听到自己的名字，这也是个很棒的福利。

And if you want to hear your name on the show, it's also a cool benefit.

赶紧给我们留个评价吧。

So leave us a review rating.

说说你对这个播客的看法。

Tell us what you think of the podcast.

好吗？

Okay?

当然。

Absolutely.

太棒了。

Awesome.

咱们先来聊第一个表达吧：以前是空白，现在变成了空白。

Let's dive in with our first phrase here, which is it was just a blank and now it's a blank.

这真是个完美的例子。

So this is a perfect example.

以前只是个房子，现在成了家。

It was just a house, now it's a home.

我们用‘房子’来泛指任何建筑，对吧？

We use the word house for just any building, right?

没人住的时候，空荡荡的，那叫房子。

No one lives there, it could be empty, it's a house.

家就是有人住进去，放满了自己的东西，感觉这才是真正属于自己的地方。

A home is when people live there and they have their things there and it feels like where they belong.

是的。

Yeah.

我特别喜欢今天这期节目，讲的不只是‘house’和‘home’的区别。

So I love that today's episode is about more than just the difference between house and home.

它讲的是怎么让你生活中某件事的重要性一步步升级。

It's about how do you escalate the importance of Show the escalation of importance of something in your life.

没错，我们就是用这个句式来表达这种升级的，对吧？

Exactly, and we use this chunk to do that, right?

你可以说：‘以前只是个副业，现在成职业了。’

Might say, it was just a side hustle and now it's a career.

其实我们经常这么用，把本来觉得不大重要、没多大分量的事，套进这个句式里，让它显得一下子重要起来了。

So there's lots of ways that we do this where we take something that seemed smaller or less significant and we put it into this chunk to show that it has become something more.

是啊。

Yeah.

就连All Ears English当初也是这么起步的。

Mean, even All Ears English started that way.

对吧？

Right?

那时候我还有另一份生意，本来以为那会成为我的主业。

I had another business going at the time, which I thought would become my main career.

这个只是个播客而已。

And this was just a podcast.

对吧？

Right?

后来我发现这事儿有搞头，就开始把更多时间往这儿挪。

And then I realized there was potential here and I moved more of my time into this.

是啊，当初就个播客，现在都成事业了。

Yeah, was just a podcast and now it's a business.

现在它成了

Now it's

一个社群。

a community.

这可就更大了。

That's even bigger.

是啊。

Yeah.

对我们来说，这现在已经变得很重要了。

And it's become a big deal for us here.

那兴趣和热情呢？

And so what about hobby and passion?

当初只是个爱好，但现在也能变成热情，这完全可能。

It was just a hobby and now it's a passion that can happen too.

你可能只是对冰壶之类的东西感到好奇。

You could just be curious about curling or something.

冰壶真是个好例子。

Curling is a good example.

我们正在看冬奥会，现在人人都对冰壶着迷。

We're watching the Olympics and everyone's obsessed with curling right now.

我知道。

I know.

他们说这特别有趣。

They say it's really fun.

是的。

Yeah.

但确实如此。

But it's true.

有人可能只是想试试看。

Someone might start just to try it out.

一开始当个爱好，后来可能觉得没意思就放弃了，也可能越玩越上瘾。

It's a hobby and then they might get disinterested and leave it or it might become a passion.

没错。

Exactly.

或者本来只是个点头之交，现在成了朋友。

Or he or she was just an acquaintance and now they're a friend.

这种事也常有。

That can happen too.

对吧，完全没错。

Absolutely, right?

有时候你只是通过孩子认识对方，比如我认识一些家长，一开始也就算个熟人。

If you just kind of know each other through this happens a lot where I'll know someone as a parent of one of my kids.

然后你们约着安排孩子玩，慢慢聊起来，说不定就真成了朋友。

And then so they're kind of an acquaintance and you're arranging play dates, then you start chatting, and then they might become a friend.

是啊，太棒了。

Yes, beautiful.

还有别的吗？

What else?

再举一个例子行吗？

Do we have one more example?

对啊，我特别喜欢这样，本来只是随便聊聊，结果就成了真正的联系，对吧？

Yeah, I kind of love it was just a conversation and now it's a connection, right?

就是那种时候，你本来只是闲扯几句，纯粹为了聊天而聊天。

That moment when you're sort of, it's just small talk and you're kind of just having a conversation for conversation sake.

然后某天突然发生点什么，心里一动，就真成了朋友。

And then it moves to that where something happens, something clicks and it becomes a connection.

可能是谁开了个玩笑。

Maybe someone makes a joke.

也可能是谁问了个问题，让你忍不住多说几句，一下子就不一样了。

Maybe someone asks a question that gets you a little bit deeper and suddenly it's Yes, a

这真是人生里特别棒的时刻，对吧？

that's a really cool moment in life, right?

有时候你一进到闲聊，心里就想：唉，又是这种无聊的寒暄。

Sometimes when you enter a small talk, oh, this is going to be another small talk, maybe you're a little bored.

对吧？

Right?

结果对方突然说了一句，就把气氛一下子拉到了另一个层次。

And then they do say something that kind of brings it to that other level.

就像你说的，那一刻就有点神奇，有时候真的这样。

Like you said, it makes it a little bit magical Sometimes

你能感觉到不一样，对吧？

you feel the difference, right?

当你和某人真正建立起连接的时候。

When you connect with somebody like that.

是的，完全没错。

Yeah, absolutely.

绝对没错。

100%.

好，还有其他方式能体现这种升级。

Okay, so there's other ways that we might show this escalation.

比如，它不再仅仅是一件事或一个地方。

For example, it became more than just a thing or place.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Exactly.

比如，我们每周的咖啡聚会，不再只是个例行公事了。

For example, our weekly coffee meetup became more than just a routine.

它变成了我们彼此支持的一个空间。

It turned into a space where we really supported each other.

所以我们用这个句式来表达‘某事超越了原本的性质’，后面再说明它原本是什么。

So we use this chunk for something to become more than just a and we'll name what it was originally.

这真好。

That's nice.

或者，去社区中心做志愿者，也不只是个社交活动了。

Or volunteering at the community center became more than just a social activity.

它让我觉得自己真正融入了这个社区。

It helped me feel connected to my neighborhood.

是啊。

Yeah.

对，这个句式真棒。

Yeah, this is a great chunk.

我们经常用这个。

We use this a lot.

它真的能体现出你重视什么、什么对你有意义，而且表达方式特别棒。

And it really is showing what you value, what is meaningful to but with a really impressive construction.

完全没错。

100%.

我超喜欢这个。

I love it.

这个观点很重要，奥布里。

And that's an important point, Aubrey.

今天讲的连接技巧之一，就是展现你重视什么，展现一件事对你而言变成了什么。

This is part of the connection skill today, showing what you value, showing what something has become to you.

对吧？

Right?

对，就是这样。

Yes, exactly.

然后我们的第三个，它不再只是一个空白，也就是一个名词，对吧？

And then our third one, it stopped being just a blank, which would be a noun, right?

比如，那个群聊不再只是分享动态的地方，而变成了我最快乐的源泉。

So, example, the group chat stopped being just a place to share updates and became the source of my biggest laughs.

我不知道你怎么样，林赛，但我有些群聊，每次看到消息我都特别期待，因为总是特别搞笑。

I don't know about you, Lindsay, but I have some of those group chats where I'm so excited to see a message because they're always funny.

是啊， definitely。

Yeah, for sure.

当然了。

For sure.

通过这些群聊，你确实能感受到和别人的连接。

And that is a way of feeling connected to other people through those.

没错。

Absolutely.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Yes.

或者举个例子，健身房不再只是锻炼的地方，反而成了我认识很多人的社交中心。

Or let's see, the gym stopped being just a place to work out and turned into a social hub where I met so many people.

真不错。

Nice.

没错。

Exactly.

我们经常这么用：‘某物不再只是……’，然后接‘变成了……’或者‘成了……’，对吧？

And we'll often use, so we have this chunk of it stopped being just a blank, and then we'll share either and became blank or and turned into blank, right?

我们其实是在接着说它后来变成了什么样。

We're kind of continuing with what it turned into.

对，对。

Right, right.

是啊。

Yeah.

你不会只说它不再只是个空白就完事了吧？

So, you wouldn't stop by just saying it stopped being just a blank.

你会接着说下去，对吧？

You would continue, Right?

对。

Right.

分享它后来变成了什么，这样才合理。

It makes sense to share, like, what it then became.

是的。

Yeah.

这很重要。

That's important.

对。

Mhmm.

好的，奥布里。

Okay, Aubrey.

咱们来实际操练一下。

Let's put this into action.

所以呢，我和朋友在聊一个我打算加入的跑步俱乐部。

So here we're friends talking about a running club that I was thinking of joining.

明白吧？

Okay?

那我先开个头。

So I'll start us out.

对。

Mhmm.

你最后决定怎么处理那个跑步俱乐部啊？

What did you decide about the running club?

我决定加入了。

I decided to join.

哦，不错啊。

Oh, nice.

最近怎么样？

How's it going?

我还挺喜欢的，但不知不觉就占了我太多时间，

I like it, but it's kinda taking over my life, to

说实话。

be honest.

你这话什么意思？

What do you mean?

本来只打算每周三去，结果人家天天跑，我一错过就怕落下了。

Well, at first it was gonna be just Wednesdays, but they run every day, and I have FOMO if I miss a meetup.

哦，厉害了。

Oh, wow.

很快就从一周一次变成天天跑了。

It quickly became more than just a once a week thing.

是啊。

Yeah.

我一知道错过啥，这事儿就彻底从每周一次变成天天跑了。

It stopped being a once a week thing the moment I found out what I'd be missing.

好消息是你现在有超棒的有氧运动了。

Well, the good news is you're getting some amazing cardio in.

对啊，跑步真是特别好的有氧运动。

Yeah, running is amazing cardio.

能上瘾这个，已经算很靠谱了。

That's a great thing to be addicted to.

尤其是我加入跑团、跟大家一起跑的时候，自己会不自觉地跑得快很多。

Especially, I find that when I join run clubs and I run with them, I run a lot faster.

我逼着自己提速。

I force myself to run a lot faster.

你可不想当最慢的那个。

You don't want to be the slowest one.

我本来是想当最慢的，但就算这样，我现在也比以前快多了。

I want to be the slowest Usually I'm still the slowest one, but I'm running faster than usual.

我也是这样。

Yeah, that would be the same for me.

我不是特别好胜，但也不想当最后一个。

Not that I'm that competitive, but I don't want to be the slowest.

但如果我一个人跑，就老想着：哎，要不先走会儿吧。

Whereas if I go by myself, I'm just kind of like, oh, maybe I'll walk now.

顺便看看我那些播客啥的。

Know, let me check my podcasts and things.

你懂的。

You know?

我也是，完全一样。

That would be it would be exactly the same for me.

是啊。

Yeah.

那当然。

For sure.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

当然了

For sure.

行吧

Alright.

我们一开始说的时候，我说这事儿快占据我全部生活了，你让我多说点细节。

So we started this off by saying I said, it's taking over my life and you wanted more information.

我说本来只打算每周三去，结果人家每天都有。

So I said, at first it was going to be just Wednesdays, but they run every day.

明白吧？

Okay?

是的

Yeah.

所以这事儿吧，本来打算只是这样，结果慢慢就变味儿了。

So this is that fun construction to be at first it was this, but then it became something else.

对。

Yeah.

然后我就发现，这事儿很快就超出了每周一次的范围。

And then I say, oh, it quickly became more than just a once a week thing.

所以这后面一部分就是，它后来变得更多了，而你得先说清楚它最初是什么样。

So this is that other chunk of it became more than, and then you name what it was at first.

一开始你还以为就每周一次而已。

At first, you thought it would just be once a week.

没错。

Exactly.

我一知道要是不参加会错过什么，立马就不再是每周一次的事儿了。

And then I said it stopped being a once a week thing the moment I found out what I'd be missing.

看来我这人特别怕错过啥。

Sounds like I have a major problem with FOMO.

但至少这FOMO是冲着一件特别正面的事儿。

Though at least it's FOMO for something really positive.

对啊。

Yeah.

总比 worse 好多了，对吧？

It could be a lot worse, right?

没错。

Yep.

我是说反过来的情况。

I mean the opposite.

我可能早就放弃了，一听说自己有多讨厌跑步，立马就成零次每周了。

I'd be like, it became a zero a week thing the moment I found out how much I hate running.

是啊， definitely。

Yeah, for sure.

各位，今天表现真棒。

Guys, good skill today.

2596期也是一个很棒的技能话题，讲的是计划泡汤了，该怎么用英语聊这个事。

2,596 would be another good skill where we talked about the title was Derailed Plans How to Connect About It in English.

这些其实都是我们计划出岔子时的日常必备技能。

So these are everyday skills when our plans go off the rails.

对啊，这种事谁都会碰到，对吧？

Yes, which happens to the best of us, right?

所以你得学会用英语跟别人聊这个。

So you should be able to connect about it in English.

我特别喜欢今天这组关于‘连接’的表达，对吧？

I really love this vocab for connection today, right?

你确实想跟人分享你真正在乎的东西。

You do want to share what you value.

一旦事情有变化，尤其是好事——比如本来平平无奇，突然变得超棒，你就该跟人聊聊这个。

And when something escalates, especially if it's good like this, something was kind of meh and became amazing, you should be chatting about that.

或者回头看看自己走过的路，比如你创办的生意，或者任何让你骄傲的事，展示它的演变过程。

Or showing the evolution looking back on something, a business that you created or something like that that you're that you're proud of.

大家通常都会好奇，这事儿到底是怎么开始的？

People are often curious, like, how did this get started?

对吧？

Right?

这样你就能回头看看，自己不知不觉中已经发生了哪些改变和成长。

And then that allows you to kind of reflect on maybe how you've changed and evolved in a way that you didn't think would happen.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Absolutely.

在这个角色扮演一开始，我随便问了句：‘你最后决定怎么处理跑步俱乐部的事了？’——这其实是个特别好的连接时刻。

And there's a really good connection moment at the beginning of this role play when I just ask like, Oh, hey, what did you decide about the running club?

这说明我记着咱们之前聊过的事。

That means I remembered a previous conversation.

我真想知道结果。

I care to find out.

维系关系很重要的一点，就是记得别人跟你提过的事儿。

That's a big part of connection is remembering what people care about and tell you about.

别光说一句‘最近怎么样？’就完事了。

And instead of just being like, Hey, how's it going?

我是真在问你之前跟我聊过的事儿。

I'm asking you about something that you told me about.

天哪，今天这堆小细节能把人关系拉得这么近。

Oh my gosh, so many little sub connection skills today.

说得对，奥布里，谁也不想每次跟人见面都像从零开始，对吧？

That's a good point, Aubrey, because you don't want to feel like you're starting over with people every time that no one wants to do that.

对啊。

Right?

你要是压根不记得我跟你说过啥，那算什么？

Like, don't remember anything you told me.

最近还好吗？

How are you?

那最近怎么样？

Well, how's life?

天哪，不太好。

Oh gosh, not good.

真的不太好。

Not good.

还行吧。

All right.

今天还挺顺的。

Good stuff today.

各位别忘了给我们打分评论啊，这样我们能在节目里念出你们的名字。

And guys, don't forget to leave us a rating and review so we can read your name out loud on the show.

行吧？

Alright?

当然。

Absolutely.

太棒了。

Awesome.

谢谢，琳赛。

Thanks, Lindsay.

好的。

Alright.

拜拜，奥布里。

Bye, Aubrey.

保重。

Take care.

再见。

Bye.

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Thanks for listening to All Ears English.

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