AEE 2604：你是否沉迷读书？如何与热衷阅读的人交流

欢迎收听《All Ears English》播客第2604期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six zero four.

你最近在埋头读书吗？

Is your nose in a book?

给爱读书的人怎么说。

What to say to big readers.

欢迎来到《All Ears English》播客，全球下载量已超过两亿次。

Welcome to the All Ears English Podcast downloaded more than 200,000,000 times.

是不是觉得自己的英语卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

今天，我们美国主持人麦克马洪——这位英语冒险家，和纽约电台女孩米歇尔·卡普兰，会教你如何抛开完美主义，专注真实交流，让你自信流利地说英语，节目从科罗拉多和纽约为你直播。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.

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你是不是个书虫？

Are you a big reader?

当身边的人埋头看书、根本不抬头的时候，你该怎么说？

What can you say when someone around you is immersed in a book and won't look up?

今天就来教你地道的英文表达。

Find out exactly what to say in English today.

你有没有过说完一段英文对话后，心里想：‘其实我本可以说得更好’？

Have you ever finished a conversation in English and thought, I know I can say that better.

你完全听懂了对方说的话。

You understood everything that was said.

你心里有想法、有观点，甚至还想讲个笑话。

You had ideas, opinions, maybe even a joke.

可轮到你开口时，说出来的却比你原本想的简短，或者比你母语里表达得简单多了。

But when it was your turn to speak, your answer came out shorter than you wanted or more basic than how you would say it in your own language.

这说明你的理解能力比口语流利度强。

This happens when your understanding is stronger than your speaking fluency.

好消息是，这种差距特别常见，只要搞清楚问题出在哪，完全能改过来。

The good news, that gap is very common and very fixable once you know exactly where you are.

做个免费的两分钟流利度测试，看看你现在的英语水平，以及接下来该重点练什么。

Take our free two minute fluency quiz to discover your current English level and what to work on next.

去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 就行。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

就是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

嗨，米歇尔。

Hello, Michelle.

今天怎么样？

How's it going today?

还不错。

Going well.

挺好的。

Going well.

你呢？

How are you?

我挺好的。

I'm good.

还不错。

Doing good.

米歇尔，你最近在读什么书？

Michelle, what are you reading right now?

你在看小说还是非虚构类的书，或者别的什么？

Are you reading any novels or non fiction books or anything?

是的。

Yeah.

我在读一本叫《I I Hope I'm Getting the Title Correct》的书，希望书名没记错。

I am reading this book called House on I I hope I'm getting the title correct.

《蔚蓝海上的小屋》。

The House on the Cerulean Sea.

哦。

Oh.

挺有意思的。

Interesting.

说真的，有个事特别搞笑。

And it's it's I you know what's really funny?

咱们之前好像聊过，别以貌取书这事儿吧。

I I think we've talked about, like, you know, don't judge a book by its cover.

对啊。

Yes.

我选这本书就是因为封面，它叫《青柠海上的房子》，作者是TJ·克卢恩。

I chose this because of the cover because so it's called oh, house the house in the cerulean sea by TJ Klune.

原来如此。

Okay.

那你喜欢吗？

And you like it

嗯，我很喜欢。

so I do.

章节都特别长，真的。

It's so the the what what I there the chapters are very long.

现在我用Kindle看书，它会显示每章有多久。

So and now that I'm reading on a Kindle, it tells me how long is in the chapter.

每章居然标着‘一小时’。

And it says an hour in the chapter.

我天哪，吓我一跳。

I'm like, oh my god.

读完一章，感觉像读完整本书一样。

I felt like getting to the end of the chapter was like finishing the book.

我简直太有成就感了，天啊。

I was so proud of my gosh.

这书真的完全不一样。

It's real it's something totally different.

说不上来，就是个特别独特的故事。

It's more of, I don't know, it's a very unique story.

我最近看了好多惊悚小说。

I've been reading a lot of thrillers.

刚读完一本叫《沉默的病人》的书。

I just read this book called The Silent Patient.

我真的挺喜欢这本的。

I really like that.

不错啊。

Nice.

然后我又读了另一本，真没劲。

Then I read another book that I didn't like.

行吧。

Alright.

不过这本确实挺好。

But but this is good.

所以啊，我现在正重读这本。

So, yeah, that's what I'm re reading right now.

所以平时晚上，你是不是经常捧着本书看？

So it sounds like on a typical evening, you might have your nose in a book a little bit.

是这样吗？

Is that right?

就是临睡前。

Right before bed.

是的。

Yes.

真好。

Nice.

我也特别喜欢。

Love that.

我睡觉前也爱看书。

I like to read too before I go to bed.

与其刷手机，不如看看书，我觉得这样更容易睡着。

It's really instead of being on the phone, just reading is so much of it's a much better transition into sleep, I think.

是的。

Yeah.

但问题是，现在因为有些新闻事件我晚上总想深挖一下。

But the problem is now I especially because there are certain news stories going on that I like to investigate at night.

哦，你这是

Oh, you're a little

故意设陷阱吧。

trick question.

先刷新闻，再想挤时间看书，结果累得根本看不进去。

Like do that and then I try and fit in the reading and then I'm too tired.

对啊。

Oh, yeah.

这些事全做

You can't do

是不行的，米歇尔。

it all, Michelle.

你不可能事事都做到。

You can't do it all.

对。

No.

我知道。

I know.

我明白。

I know.

我现在就想两头兼顾，但其实也挺难的。不过说实话，我确实喜欢时不时捧本书看看。

Now I'm just trying to do both and it's not But, yeah, I do I do like to have my nose in the in a book sometimes.

看书。

In a book.

那今天节目里咱们要聊点啥啊，米歇尔？

So what are we getting into in the show today, Michelle?

这当然跟咱们今天的话题有关。

This is related to our topic today, of course.

是的

Yeah.

当然了

Definitely.

其实我这个表达‘埋头看书’，最近在两本不同的书里都看到过。

So I actually this expression, to have your nose in a book, I just saw it used twice in two separate books.

对啊

Yeah.

但我记不清是哪一本了。

But what I can't remember one of them.

我觉得可能是我跟孩子一起读的那些书。

I think it may have been like, books I'm reading with my kids.

明白了

Okay.

但有一本是《艾米丽亚·贝德莉亚》里的。

But one was from Amelia Bedelia.

你读过《艾米莉亚·贝迪莉娅》吗？

Did you read Amelia Bedelia

听起来好耳熟。

sounds really familiar.

我应该读过吧。

I think I must

对啊。

have.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

我之所以提这个，是因为觉得这个表达特别有意思。

So I just wanted to highlight this because I thought that this was a really fun expression.

而且我女儿每次听到我说‘她鼻子都扎在书里了’就笑个不停，你知道的，因为在《艾米莉亚·贝迪莉娅》里，她老是死板地按字面意思理解事情，所以她就以为——

And also because my daughter always laughs when I say, oh, her nose was stuck in a book because she, you know and and in Amelia Bedelia, the thing is she takes things literally so she thinks, oh,

她整天埋头看书。

her nose was stuck in a book.

太可爱了。

That's so cute.

我超喜欢这句话。

I love that.

所以，Lindsay，当你拒绝的时候，是字面意思吗？

So is it literal, Lindsay, when you say no to the

我们得先回答听众的第一个问题。

first question we have to answer here for our listeners.

不是。

No.

你女儿当然得听这个播客。

And your your daughter should be listening to the podcast, of course.

没错。

Exactly.

不是。

No.

不是字面意思，但说白了，就是你低着头在看书。

It's not literally, but in in a sense, your nose is down.

对啊。

Yo.

没错。

Right.

书嘛。

The book.

所以说对啊。

So Right.

其实就是说你在看书。

It just means you're reading.

你完全沉浸进去了。

You're immersed.

你完全沉浸在那本书里了。

You're fully immersed in that book.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Exactly.

对。

Right.

就是这么回事。

Exactly.

就像你的鼻子都埋进书里了。

It's like your nose is in it.

是比喻的说法，意思是陷进去了。

It's metaphorically in it.

因为你当时就是那个状态嘛。

It's because you are, you know, in that position.

没错。

Exactly.

今天咱们节目就要聊这个话题，各位。

This is what we're gonna get into today on the show, guys.

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对吧，Michelle？

Right, Michelle?

对。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

所以，琳达，这个说法常用吗？

So, yeah, Lindsay, is this expression common?

当然了。

Sure.

对啊。

Yeah.

这说法挺常见的。

I mean, it's around.

挺常见的。

It's around.

对吧。

Yeah.

没错吧？

Right?

咱们都懂它的意思。

I mean, we know what it means.

我们有时候也会用。

We we use it sometimes.

米歇尔，你自己平时会用吗？偶尔用一次？

Would you say you use it once in a while, Michelle, yourself?

偶尔吧。

Once in a while.

我觉得我见过，最近刚看到过。

I would say I've seen you know, because I've seen it recently.

现在这事儿老在我脑子里转。

Now, you know, it's on my mind.

是的。

Yeah.

但它也让我想起一件事，你记得在《美女》那部电影里吗？我不确定你对电影和美容这块熟不熟。

But it also makes me think of, do you remember in beauty I don't know how well you know beauty and movies.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

关键是，贝儿特别爱看书，别人就拿这个取笑她，其实挺傻的。

The whole thing is that, you know, Belle likes to read a lot, then they tease her for it, which is silly.

但我记得有一句是说她鼻子总埋在书里。

But one of the lines I think is about her nose being stuck in a book.

没错。

Right.

对啊。

Right.

嗯，没错。

And yeah.

所以这说法确实是用的。

So it's definitely used.

我觉得在故事里这说法挺常见的。

I think it is used a lot in stories perhaps.

对啊。

Mhmm.

我肯定不会跟朋友说：‘天哪，我鼻子都扎进书里了。’

I don't I don't know that I would say to my friend, oh my gosh, my nose is stuck in a is is in a book.

对吧？

Right?

不会的。

No.

这说法你知道吧？

It's it's know?

但这一点其实挺重要的。

But that's an important point, though.

我觉得通常是别人说你看起来沉浸在阅读里，才会提到这一点，而不是你自己主动说。

I feel like it's usually someone else makes a comment that you're you seem immersed in your reading, And that's when it would come up rather than talking about yourself.

你觉得呢？

Don't you think?

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

当然。

Yeah.

那我们举几个例子吧。

So let's give some examples.

好。

Okay.

来吧，看看这个。

Here we go.

我以前老是沉迷手机，但现在我发现了一个超爱的剧集。

I'm usually addicted to my phone, but now I found a series I love.

所以我现在天天捧着书看。

So my nose is always in a book.

是的。

Yeah.

这正好跟我刚才说的相反。

And here's just the counter to what I just said.

没错。

Exactly.

就是这么回事。

Exactly.

太棒了。

Love it.

不过说真的，我同意你的说法。

But again, you know, I do I agree.

这更多是在评论别人。

And it would more be a comment on someone else.

我不确定我是不是真会这么讲。

I don't know that I would you know?

我的意思是，你完全可以这么用。

But this is how you I mean, you could use it.

有人肯定会问：你这说的是啥？

I mean, one's gonna say, what are you talking?

又没人来管你这话对不对。

There's no language police coming after you.

对。

No.

没错。

No.

对。

No.

用它来指代你自己。

Use it to refer to yourself.

但这里有个常见的例子。

But here's one common example.

她喜欢读书，可整天捧着书不放。

I'm glad she likes to read, but her nose is always in a book.

今年夏天她该多出去走走。

She should get outside this summer.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

所以，也许有家长会这样评价自己的孩子。

So, yeah, maybe a parent is saying that about their child.

是的

Yeah.

我真不知道哪个家长会抱怨孩子爱读书。

I don't know what parent would be complaining about their child reading.

现在尤其如此，因为 alternatives 是盯着屏幕

These days especially because the alternative is screens and

是的

Yeah.

没错

Yep.

对吧？

Right?

你是不是还埋在那本书里出不来？

Or is your nose still stuck in that book?

一定特别棒。

It must be amazing.

是的。

Yeah.

我记得小时候，我们有个暑期读书俱乐部，像比赛一样看谁读的书多。

I remember when I was a kid, we had this summer book club where it was like a contest, how many books you could read.

有些孩子简直读疯了。

Oh, And some kids just knocked it out of the park.

他们一个夏天能读三十本书，我总是特别佩服那些孩子。

They'd read like 30 books in a summer, and I was always very impressed by those kids.

我当时就想，

And I thought,

他们到底是怎么做到的？

how the heck do they do that?

你说是不是？

You know?

对。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

我有朋友，比如几年前我朋友杰米，她给自己定的目标是一年读52本书。

I mean, I have friends like I remember my friend Jamie a few years ago, she had a goal to read 52 books in a year.

哇哦。

Wow.

那不就是每周一本吗？

That's one a week then.

对吧？

Right?

她做到了吗？

That's I Did she do it?

她达成目标了吗？

Did she get there?

我觉得她做到了。

I think she did.

是的。

Yeah.

哇。

Wow.

真厉害。

That's impressive.

现在她有孩子了，我觉得她没再坚持了。

Now she has kids, so I don't think she's doing it.

对啊。

Yeah.

你得

You'd have to

说实话，就算一个人没孩子，你也得特意安排，说今晚不出去了，得先把书读完。

I mean, even as a single person without kids, you'd have to make a conscious decision and say, I can't go out tonight because I need to get my reading done.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

一年52块？

For a 52 a year?

对。

Yeah.

嗯，

Yeah.

我今年的目标是，每个月读一本，我就知足了。

I'm my goal is this year, if I can get one a month, I'll be happy.

那对我来说真是挺了不起的了。

That would be would be, like, a really big deal for me.

太棒了。

That's perfect.

我喜欢这个。

I love that.

你觉得这听起来有点幼稚吗？

Do you think this sounds a little juvenile?

我的意思是，Michelle，你觉得呢？

I mean, what do you think, Michelle?

我们之前聊过一些孩子的例子。

I mean, we've talked about kids examples.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Mhmm.

没错。

Yeah.

我同意。

I do.

我觉得有点吧。

I think a little bit.

我的意思是，我也不确定，就像我说的，我身边的朋友根本不会天天用这个词。

I mean, I don't know that, like I said, I'm running around with, you know, my contemporaries just using this all the time.

但我确实觉得，这个词经常用在孩子身上，比如《美女与野兽》那个例子，听起来有点过时了。

But I do think it is often used about children or like, you know, the Beauty and the Beast example, potentially a little old fashioned.

你觉得呢？

What do you think?

我觉得它过时，主要是因为现在大家整天刷Instagram或者TikTok。

I think it's probably old fashioned just because nowadays, you know, most people have their nose in Instagram or TikTok.

对，就因为这个才过时。

Exactly.

这绝对是它过时的唯一原因。

That's the only reason it's old fashioned.

对吧？

Right?

但我们还是在读书的。

But we still read.

对我来说，读书越来越有种怀旧的美感了，特别美好、特别珍贵，简直让人感叹。

Reading is becoming more quaint for me, like more lovely, more wonderful, more valued, more Oh gosh.

这真的是最好的。

It's the it's the best.

因为别的选择呢？白天我们一直盯着屏幕，晚上又刷手机、看社交软件。

Just because the alternative well, we're in front of screens all day, and then in the evening, we might be on our phone, social media.

我们就是想逃开一会儿。

We wanna get away from it.

对吧？

Right?

是啊。

Yep.

没错。

Yeah.

就是这样。

Exactly.

是的。

Mhmm.

而且有些人可能会用这个词来贬低别人。

And I mean, some people might use it as an insult.

比如《美女与野兽》里，这完全要看上下文。

I mean, like in Beauty and the Beast, I mean, it just depends on the context.

对。

Yeah.

不过咱们聊聊现在更常见的表达方式吧。

But let's talk about some more modern ways that we can express this idea.

没错。

Yeah.

你可以说‘我沉浸在书里了’。

You could say I'm lost in a book.

所以显然，这并不是字面意思。

So you're obviously, again, it's not literal.

你并不是真的迷路了。

You're not lost physically.

你知道自己在哪。

You know where you are.

你可能就在咖啡馆什么的。

You're probably in a cafe or something.

你就是沉浸得太深了。

You're just really into it.

对吧？

Right?

时间一晃就过去了，两小时觉得才五分钟。

Maybe the time passes, two hours goes by, you think it's five minutes.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Yes.

是啊。

Yep.

没错。

Exactly.

或者就是上瘾了。

Or then there's hooked.

对吧？

Right?

哎，等等。

And oh, wait.

我做了那个示例。

I did Example.

我

I

对。

Yeah.

那我来给听众们念一下这个例子吧。

So I'll I'll go ahead and read the example for our listeners.

她完全沉浸在这本书里了。

She's totally lost in this book.

连我们说话她都听不进去。

She's not even listening to us.

是啊。

Yeah.

对啊。

Yeah.

这挺常见的。

That's pretty common.

就像我之前说的，那种上瘾的情况。

Or there's hooked, like I said.

这种状态也可能发生在看电视、看电影，或者听新闻的时候——你被某个新闻故事牢牢吸引住了。

So that could be also for TV or muse movies, or even if you're listening, like, the news, you're hooked on a news story.

但我真的被这本书迷住了。

But I'm totally hooked on this book.

我跟你说，你一定要读一读。

I'm telling you, you have to read it.

我一迷上一本书，就特别开心。

When I am hooked on a book, I am so happy.

我超爱

I love

它。

it.

简直太棒了。

It's the best.

那种感觉特别好，特别有意思。

It's such a good, it's such a fun feeling.

对。

Yes.

是的

Yeah.

但并不是每本书都能让我这样着迷。

And but it doesn't happen with every book.

对。

Yeah.

确实如此，但这种体验真的不一样——你能沉浸其中、逃逸片刻，而电视、电影、社交媒体都给不了这种感觉。

I mean, it's true, but it really it be it's like this escape that you can go and back you don't get the same effect from TV, movies, social media.

我觉得这真的特别难得。

It really is quite special, I think.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

绝对如此。

Definitely.

好了，米歇尔。

Alright, Michelle.

当我们真正沉浸在一本小说里时，还会说一些别的话。

There's a few other things we might say when we are truly into a book.

比如说，沉浸其中。

You might say absorbed in.

沉浸其中。

Absorbed in.

学生们都沉浸在他们正在读的小说里。

The students are absorbed in the novel they're reading.

我就知道他们会喜欢的。

I knew they would love it.

对我来说，小说通常比非虚构类作品更让我沉浸其中。

And novels are usually for me, what I get more absorbed in than nonfiction.

我以前读很多非虚构类书籍，但现在我更愿意读小说。

I used to read a lot more nonfiction, but these days I'd rather read a novel.

你知道吧？

You know?

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我也是。

Me too.

有时候我会想，哎，我该多读点非虚构类的书，学点更具体的东西。

And then sometimes I'll think, oh, I should read a lot of more nonfiction and learn, you know, more specific things.

但说真的。

But I don't know.

就是提不起我的兴趣。

It just doesn't hook me the same way.

就是提不起你的兴趣。

It doesn't hook you the same way.