AEE 2622：如何在他人脑海中为你的故事预留一个位置

这是《All Ears English》播客第2622期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six twenty two.

如何让你的故事在别人心里占个位置。

How to save a spot in someone's mind for your story.

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你是不是觉得自己的英语进步卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

我们会教你如何摆脱恐惧，流利说英语——重点不是完美，而是真实连接。带你认识两位美国主持人：热爱冒险的英语达人林赛·麦马洪，和来自纽约的电台女孩米歇尔·卡普兰，今天她们从科罗拉多和纽约为你带来节目。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.

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人们特别喜欢悬疑和结尾留悬念的故事。

People love cliffhangers and mysteries.

悬疑。

Mysteries.

今天教你如何让别人知道你有件事想说，但需要稍后再讲。

Today, find out how you can let someone know you have something to tell them but need to share it later.

这是生活中很有趣的一部分，能帮你建立默契和联系。

This is a fun part of life that builds rapport and connection.

听得懂英语和真正用英语交流，完全是两回事。

There's a big difference between understanding English and participating in English.

听得懂是跟上对话，而参与交流则是主动表达想法、自然回应，让对话持续下去。

Understanding means you follow the conversation, you participate by adding your ideas, reacting naturally, and keeping the conversation moving.

很多英语学习者听力不错，但说话时总犹豫不决。

Many English learners are strong listeners, but hesitant speakers.

一旦你清楚自己现在的水平，缩小这个差距就容易多了。

Once you know your current fluency level, it becomes much easier to close that gap.

来做个免费的两分钟小测试，看看你的水平，再知道接下来该重点练什么。

Take our free two minute quiz to discover your level and what to focus on next.

去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 试试吧。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

那就是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.comfluencyscore.

嗨，米歇尔。

Hi, Michelle.

你今天怎么样？

How are you today?

我挺好的，林赛。

I'm good, Lindsay.

林赛，我有件事想告诉你，不过稍后再说。

Lindsay, I have something to tell you, but I'll tell you later.

天哪，米歇尔，我简直等不及了。

Oh gosh, Michelle, I can't wait.

米歇尔，今天我们节目要聊些什么？

Michelle, what are we getting into on the show today?

今天我们要讲讲，怎么告诉别人你有事想说，但得晚点再说。

So today we are going to share how to tell someone you have to tell them something later.

对吧？

Right?

所以

So

是的

Yeah.

有时候确实不是讲这件事的合适时机。

Sometimes it's just not the right time to actually go into a story.

你碰到他们的时候，往往是在比较忙的地方。

You're you see them, you know, in a busier location.

也许你正在看一场演出。

Maybe you're a a show.

演出马上就要开始了，这时候不方便开口。

The show is starting, and you can't quite go into it.

对吧？

Right?

是的

Yeah.

当然

For sure.

是的

Yeah.

这是一项非常重要的能力，它能帮你在他人心中预留一个位置，等以后再讲。

So this is a huge skill, and it's able like, it allows you to save a spot in someone's mind for later.

Lindsay，你觉得怎么样？

What do you think of this, Lindsay?

是的

Yeah.

我喜欢在别人心里留个位置这个想法。

I like the idea of saving a spot in someone's mind.

就像是给对方放了个书签一样。

You put a bit a bit of a bookmark there for them.

是的。

Yeah.

而且你知道，他们明白你有件重要的事要谈。

And, you know, they know that there's something important you have to talk about.

这是用于小事，还是大事，或者两者都适用？

Is this for lighter things or for heavier things or both?

我觉得两种情况都可以。

I think it could be for both.

不过，如果你有特别沉重的事，比如要传达坏消息，却只是先留个位置，那就不妥了。

However, if it's something like, a cruel thing to do is if you have something really heavy to like, if you have bad news

天哪。

for some my gosh.

是的。

Yeah.

不行。

No.

然后你跟他们说，周五吧，我周一再告诉你。

And then you and then you tell them Friday, oh, I'll tell you Monday.

对吧？

Right?

太糟糕了。

Horrible.

哎呀。

Oh

天哪。

god.

你知道，这确实是唯一的问题。

You you know, that's that's the only thing.

这方法或许两种情况都适用，但我不会用在那种得拖好几天才告诉他们的事上。

This is so it could be for either, but I wouldn't use it for something where it's like, oh, you can't tell them for a few days.

对。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

好的。

Okay.

完美。

Perfect.

所以轻了一点，但也不是什么特别糟糕的消息。

So a little lighter, but it's not not hugely bad news.

跟人沟通的时候，当然要温和体贴一些。

Being kind and gracious with people, obviously, when you have something to tell them.

所以时机特别重要。

And so timing is a big thing.

很多时候，我们并不总能随时找人聊天。

Often, we're in a situation where we don't have like, we can't just be talking to someone all the time.

也许你正处在会议中间。

Maybe we're in the middle of a meeting.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

在场的有我们同事，还有桌上的其他人。

With our coworkers there, and then there's other people at the table.

我们不一定能跟他们说。

We can't talk to them necessarily.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

或者你自己还在等一些信息。

Or maybe you're still waiting on some of the information yourself.

你就只是在等某件事，等所有信息都齐了，再告诉那个人。

So you you're just waiting on something, and once you get all the information, you're gonna tell that person.

对。

Mhmm.

或者呢，这事儿有点出人意料，是个秘密，你想找个合适的时机再告诉别人。

Or again, it's a bit of a surprise or a secret, and you want the right moment to share it.

是吧？

Right?

没错。

Exactly.

对。

Yes.

所以就是这样。

So yeah.

咱们来聊聊怎么才能做到这一点。

Let's talk about how how we can do this.

我们想提醒大家，无论你在哪个平台收听《All Ears English》播客，都别忘了点关注，这样就不会错过任何内容了。

We wanna remind you guys to hit the follow button wherever you're listening to the All Ears English Podcast so you never miss anything.

是的。

Yes.

记得关注我们。

Be sure to hit follow us.

这个节目每周五天都会准时出现在你的播放列表里。

We fall right into your queue for five days a week on this show.

那我们来分享一下具体的表达方式吧，米歇尔。

So let's share the expressions, what exactly we would say, Michelle.

第一个是：我稍后再告诉你细节，或者我稍后再跟你说明。

The first one is I'll tell you the details later or I'll fill you in later.

这个表达可能对我们的听众来说挺有意思的。

This might be an interesting one for our listeners.

这个表达可能是大家第一次听到。

It may be a first time for for this one.

跟你说明一下。

Fill you in.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

是的。

Yes.

或者我稍后解释。

Or I'll explain later.

是的。

Yes.

那我们来看看这么说听起来怎么样。

So let's see how this would sound.

我有些关于查理和丽塔的最新情况，但细节待会儿再告诉你。

I have some updates on Charlie and Rita, but I'll tell you the details later.

好的。

Okay.

听起来有点像在八卦。

It sounds a little gossipy.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yes.

或者我有新消息。

Or I have news.

跟学校的学费有关。

It has to do with the school tuition.

我待会儿再告诉你。

I'll explain later.

好的。

Okay.

或者课后等我一下，我跟你聊聊毕业计划。

Or wait for me after class, and I'll fill you in about the graduation plans.

是的。

Yes.

当一个人知道有件好事即将发生时，生活就会变得有意思又带点兴奋。

This kinda makes life interesting and a little bit exciting when someone knows they have something exciting that that's coming to them.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yes.

如果偶尔我觉得别人可能以为是坏消息，我反而会说，别担心，没什么大不了的。

And if it is every once in a while, if I think someone might think something is bad news or something, I might actually say, oh, it's nothing bad.

别担心。

Don't worry.

对吧？

Right?

你也会这样吗？

Do you ever do that?

如果你担心，他们就会误以为是坏消息。

If you're worried, they'll think mistakenly think it's bad news.

是的。

Yeah.

你不想让他们有这种想法。

You don't want them to mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yes.

当然。

For sure.

比如说，假如我知道要花一两天才能拿到更多信息的话。

Like, let's say let's say I did know that it was gonna take a day or two to find out more information.

这样让对方心里有个数，其实挺好的。

It's nice to just kind of Yeah.

告诉对方一声，别担心。

Let that person know, okay.

事情没那么糟，真的没什么严重的问题。

We're not you know, nothing nothing terrible is happening.

天塌不下来。

The world isn't coming crashing down.

这其实是一种很贴心的体贴。

So that's kind of a nice courtesy.

是的。

Yeah.

完全没错。

Totally.

没错。

Totally.

我们还可以用‘敬请期待’。

Another one we could say is stay tuned.

对吧？

Right?

敬请期待。

Stay tuned.

是的。

Yeah.

我记得，小时候看的动画片总是会说

I remember, you know, the I feel like kids' cartoons always

‘好的。’

said Yep.

敬请期待。

Stay tuned.

敬请关注。

Stay tuned.

广告之后，切回商业广告前请继续关注。

Stay tuned after these messages before the cut to commercial break.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

正是如此。

Exactly.

所以敬请关注。

So stay tuned.

就像是持续关注着。

It's like stay tuned in.

其实就是用这个说法

So it's it's, you know, it's basically using that

这应该是从电视里来的。

It's from TV, I think.

对。

Right.

所以你是在暗示他们，有好事要来了。

So you're you're kinda letting them know that something's coming.

我现在没法说，但我有个超劲爆的消息要告诉你。

So I can't talk right now, but I have a huge story for you.

所以别走开。

So stay tuned.

当那个知道内幕却不直接说，只是故意吊人胃口的人，其实还挺有意思的。

It's also kinda fun being the person that's kinda with you're not withholding the information, but you're delaying it.

当那种知道秘密的人挺有意思的，感觉就像——嘿，我有个秘密。

It's kind of fun to be that person because you're in a bit of a position of like, oh, I have a secret.

这挺好玩的。

This is fun.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

没错

Yeah.

两边都挺有意思的，我觉得。

On both sides, it's kind of fun, I think.

对吧？

Right?

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

就是这样。

Exactly.

接下来我们来听一个更专业、更正式一点的表达。

And then we have a little bit more of a professional sounding one, a little more elevated one.

是什么呢，琳达？

What is it, Lindsay?

我稍后告诉你更多细节。

I'll tell you more shortly.

我们还没怎么聊过‘shortly’，但它确实是一种更正式、更专业的说法。

We haven't talked about shortly very much, but it is a professional, more formal way of speaking.

是的。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Yeah.

当然。

Definitely.

我们收到了客户的一些更新。

So we received some updates from our clients.

我还在等更多信息，不过稍后会告诉你。

I'm still waiting on more information, but I'll tell you more shortly.

所以，你在等一些东西，对吧。

So, yeah, you're waiting on something.

他们大概知道是关于什么的。

They know generally what it's about.

不是那种情况，比如周五我跟你说，Lindsay，我周一再告诉你件事。

It's not like, oh, on Friday, I say to you, Lindsay, I need to tell you something on Monday.

对。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

是的。

Yeah.

是的

Yeah.

当然

For sure.

我小时候最好的朋友是英国人。

When I was growing up, my best friend was British.

她是在英国出生的。

Like, she was born in England.

她父母说话还是英国口音，因为他们成年后才搬到美国。

Her parents still spoke with British accents because they, you know, they came to The US when they were adults.

她虽然说的是美式口音，但用词总是显得更正式一点。

And she didn't she had an American accent, but she always spoke with, like, slightly more formal vocabulary.

至少我是这么觉得的。

Or at least that was the way I saw it.

在英国可能不是这样看的，但在我眼里就是这样。

May not be the way it would have been seen in England, but it was the way I saw it.

她经常这么说，我觉得挺有意思的，毕竟我们当时是青少年，她说话却稍微更正式一点。

And she would often say this shortly, and I always thought it was interesting because, you know, we were teenagers and she just spoke a little bit more formal.

说话方式更正式一些。

In a bit of a more formal way.

这还挺有意思的。

It's kind of interesting.

挺有意思的。

That's kind of fun.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

挺有意思的。

It's kinda fun.

好的。

Okay.

我们还可以再说一点。

There's another thing we could say.

最后一个。

One last one.

是什么呀，米歇尔？

What is it, Michelle?

我喜欢这个。

I like this one.

这让我想到电视剧。

It also makes me think of TV.

对吧？

Right?

在另一端，差不多就是剧集快结束时那种‘未完待续’的感觉。

On the on the other end, kind of, like, that towards the end of an episode is to be continued.

所以，这个‘stay tuned’和‘敬请期待’听起来真像电视剧的结尾。

So, yeah, this one and stay tuned sound like TV shows.

确实像。

They do.

‘敬请期待’，Lindsay，你什么时候会在电视剧里看到这种说法？

To be continued, Lindsay, when would you see to be continued with a TV show?

天哪。

Oh, man.

以前的情景喜剧，尤其是季末，常会出一集特别戏剧性的，明显没讲完。

Back in the day with the sitcoms, right, that would come out, especially, you know, maybe towards the end of a season, there was a very dramatic episode, and it clearly wasn't wrapped up.

剧情还没收尾，屏幕上就突然蹦出‘敬请期待’这几个字，还带个省略号。

The drama wasn't wrapped up yet, and it would they would just put this little note on the on the screen and say, to be continued, dot dot dot.

那时候你就会觉得——

And you'd be like,

心里悬着，特别想知道后续。

oh, you're in suspense.

是的

Yeah.

所以这是在每集结尾的地方。

So it's it's at the end of the episode.

这就像是你正要跟人讲一件事，结果突然被打断了。

So this is actually almost like you're starting to tell someone and you get so you get a little interrupted.

对吧

Right?

没错

Right.

或者就是根本没法继续下去。

Or you just can't continue.

所以举个例子，这就是为什么我昨天表现得那么奇怪。

So for example so anyway, that's why I was acting so odd yesterday.

但天哪。

But oh, no.

看看时间。

Look at the time.

好吧。

Okay.

未完待续。

To be continued.

是的。

Yeah.

这个更有戏剧性，更夸张一点。

And this one's a little more theatrical, a little more dramatic.

如果符合你的风格，就大胆用吧。

If it fits your personality, go for it.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Yeah.

你觉得你最可能选哪一个

Which one would you say you're most

最有可能用哪一个？

likely to use?

我最有可能用哪一个？

Which one I'm most likely to use?

让我想想。

Let me see.

我再看一遍。

Let me look at them again.

我待会儿告诉你。

I'll fill you in later.

对吧？

Right?

我喜欢这个。

I like I like that.

我待会儿告诉你。

I'll fill you in later.

我待会儿跟你说具体细节。

I'll I'll fill you in on the details later.

是的。

Yeah.

这个我觉得更自然。

That one feels natural to me.

那你呢？

So what about you?

我其实更喜欢留个悬念。

I actually like to be continued.

我喜欢待会儿再告诉你细节。

I I like I'll let you know the details later.

对。

Yeah.

所有这些。

All of the all of these.

但我也不确定。

But I I don't know.

对我而言，‘未完待续’特别有意思。

To be continued to me is really fun.

是的。

Yeah.

而且它就像我说的，在建立联系方面，能让人一直记着这个人。

And it holds like I said, you know, in terms of connection, we said this kind of reserves a spot in this person's mind.

对。

Yes.

所以就像你说的，那种书签一样的感觉，我真的很喜欢这个想法。

So it's that bookmark, like you said, which I really like that idea.

是的。

Yeah.

因为就连在书里，也会有‘未完待续’这样的写法。

Because it is I mean, even even in books, you could have to be continued.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得人类的思维就是喜欢吊胃口。

I think the human the human mind likes cliffhangers.

虽然我们嘴上说不喜欢电视剧里老是‘未完待续’，但心里其实还挺期待的。

We even though we don't like we didn't like it with those TV shows said to be continued, we kinda did.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

没错。

Right.

我觉得《老友记》每季结尾的悬念都特别棒。

Well, I think Friends always had a really great cliffhanger at the end of seasons.

是的

Uh-huh.

很有戏剧性

Dramatic.

对吧

Right?

哦

Oh,

他们做得真棒

they were so good.

对

Yeah.

这些真的特别有意思

So those are really fun.

没错

That's right.

所以说吧。

So yeah.

但这些确实是与人建立联系的好方法。

But these are just really great ways to connect with people.

要不断提醒他们，让他们记着你想要传达的内容，或者你们之前聊的话题。

Keep keep them keep them thinking about whatever you need to tell them or what you were talking about.

不过还是要讲究策略，多为对方着想，别用可能让他们担心的方式去说。

But again, you do need to do it strategically and think about being kind to that person and not telling them something in a way that might might make them worry.

当然。

Of course.

你肯定不希望别人一整天或整个周末都提心吊胆。

You don't wanna have someone going through a day or a weekend worrying.

绝对不行。

Absolutely not.

没错。

No.

不行。

No.

那最糟糕了。

That's the worst.

米歇尔，给我们的听众演示一下该怎么做吧。

Let's show our listeners how it's done, Michelle.

我们是朋友，你正在跟我讲你的一天，或者我的一天。

So we are friends, and you are telling me a story about my day about your day.

明白吗？

Okay?

对。

Yes.

好的。

Alright.

我们开始吧。

Here we go.

所以

So

我知道我们得赶紧走了，但我刚进超市，碰上了我高中时的前男友。

I know we have to go soon, but, yeah, I walked into the grocery store, and I saw my ex from high school.

真的吗？

Really?

对啊。

Yes.

我们分手的时候挺难看的。

And it was a messy breakup.

细节待会儿再跟你说。

I'll tell you the details later.

天啊。

Wow.

是啊。

Yeah.

不过他走过来跟我说，我伤了他的心。

But anyway, he walks up to me and says I broke his heart.

天哪。

Woah.

是啊。

Yeah.

我得赶紧走了，不过待会儿再跟你说详情。

I gotta tell I gotta go soon, but I'll tell you more shortly.

敬请期待。

Stay tuned.

这故事也太离谱了。

This is a wild story.

好。

Okay.

未完待续。

To be continued.

所以我说‘未完待续’，其实后面等消息的还得是我自己。

So here, I'm saying to be continued, even though I'm gonna be the one waiting on the information later.

对。

Yes.

是吧？

Right?

对。

Yes.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

没错。

Right.

因为你一直在重复我说的话。

Because you're echoing.

我是说，我刚才提到那种电视里常听的台词，比如‘敬请期待’，然后你就说‘好’。

I mean, I said something about I said one of those TV sounding ones say stay tuned, and then Yeah.

你接了一句‘好的’。

You said, okay.

未完待续。

To be continued.

对吧？

Right?

明白了。

Okay.

所以我还是想沿用这个风格，对吧？

So I'm I'm kinda sticking with that theme, right?

有时候我们就这样做，其实可以多做几期，专门聊聊这种模仿对话的艺术。

Sometimes we do this and we should do more episodes on the art of mirroring in this way.

我注意到你把话题引到了电视类比这个方向，于是我也想了个新的电视类比，对吧？

I've seen that come into the TV analogy theme, and so I come up with another TV analogy, right?

是的

Yeah,

太棒了。

Very cool.

这连接技巧真厉害。

Huge connection skill.

对。

Mhmm.

所以我才说那是一场乱七八糟的分手。

So I said it was a messy breakup.

细节我待会儿再告诉你。

I'll tell you the details later.

从角色扮演一开始我就说了，我知道我们很快就得走了。

So and you can tell from the beginning of the role play, I said, so I know we have to go soon.