AEE 2625：谁是你生命中的无名英雄？

这是《All Ears English》播客第2625期。

This is an All Ears English podcast episode twenty six twenty five.

在你生活中，谁是你觉得默默无闻的英雄？

Who is an unsung hero in your life?

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你是不是觉得自己的英语进步卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

我们会教你如何摆脱恐惧，真正流利地说英语——重点不是完美，而是真实交流。本期节目由美国主持人林赛·麦马洪——这位英语冒险家，和米歇尔·卡普兰——纽约的电台女孩，从科罗拉多和纽约为你带来。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.

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你们的文化是不是特别崇拜英雄？

Does your culture love heroes?

今天，我们来认识一个不太为人所知的词，用来形容那些可能比故事里的主角还重要的人。

Today, get a lesser known term to recognize someone who may be even more important than the main hero of the story.

你是不是还在脑子里把母语翻译成英语？

Are you still translating from your native language into English in your head?

是不是总搞不清楚各种时态的区别？

Are you always getting confused between the different grammar tenses?

咱们一起来看看你最需要提升的是哪方面。

Let's figure out what you need to work on.

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嗨，米歇尔。

Hello, Michelle.

今天过得怎么样？

How's it going today?

我挺好的，林赛。

I'm good, Lindsey.

林赛，你生活中有没有谁是你觉得可以称得上英雄的人？

Lindsey, who is someone in your life who you consider to be a hero?

英雄这个概念啊……

Oh, The concept of a hero.

我觉得我父母在某些方面都算得上英雄，这么说应该没错。

I mean, my parents were both heroes in some ways, I guess, you could say that.

就是在我人生里，你知道的，那种英雄。

Like, you know, in my life, right?

对。

Right.

他们把我养大，教给我正确的东西。

They raised me well, they taught me the right things.

所以从很小的范围来说，我觉得他们就是。

And so on a small, small scale, I would say they are.

你呢，米歇尔？你生活中有这样的人吗？

What about you, Michelle, in your life?

这挺有意思的。

It's funny.

说实话，我也在想我的父母。

I mean, I was thinking of my parents too.

你知道的。

You know?

说来有趣，你平时可能不会把父母和英雄联系在一起，总想着超级英雄，但仔细想想，还真是这样。

It's like, it's funny because you don't often think I mean, you think of superhero, maybe not parents, but that's true.

英雄其实也可以是这种更贴近个人的小概念。

It is that that smaller concept of a hero, like personal to you.

对。

Mhmm.

当然，还有那些更大的英雄形象。

And then there's, you know, the larger concepts.

没错。

Yes.

我的意思是，当然了，像医护人员、消防员，还有那些从事类似职业的人，还有科学家，他们都是英雄。

I mean, of course, I think, like, health care workers, firefighters, all of those people in those kinds of professions, scientists, you know, are are heroes.

对。

Yes.

所以。

So

尤其是在疫情期间，你还记得吗？那时候晚上八点，我们总会为护士们鼓掌，虽然记不清具体叫什么了。

Especially during the pandemic, do you remember when we had the nurse like, can't remember what it was, but, like, at 8PM, we used to Yeah.

大家都会敲锅敲盆，为下班的护士们加油打气，对吧？

Everyone used to was it pots and pans would make some noise for nurses coming off their shifts?

是的。

Yeah.

这真是个很好的例子，说明疫情期间有多少人甘愿冒着生命危险坚持上班。

That is really a good example of heroes during during COVID willing to go to work and risk their lives.

没错。

Exactly.

我们一会儿会说到

We're gonna have a we're gonna

稍后我会举个例子，因为我刚才也在想这个。

have an example of that later on because definitely I was thinking of that too.

那默默无闻的英雄呢？

But what about unsung heroes?

对，那种英雄和前面说的有什么相同或不同之处？

And yeah, how was that the same or different?

是的。

Yeah.

在美国文化里，我们特别推崇英雄这个概念。

Well, in American culture, we love the concept of a hero.

电影里、故事里到处都是，但还有一种英雄，他们不被注意，藏在幕后，却实实在在地改变着一切。

It's in all our movies, our narratives, but there's the also, the unsung hero is usually something something or someone who is not as recognized, but is kind of under the surface, but is making a big difference.

确实是这样。

Is really Yes.

你知道，成就了这件事或这个人。

You know, creating the success of the thing or the person.

没错。

Right.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

是的。

Yes.

所以他们未必能得到应有的认可。

So they don't necessarily get the credit.

对。

Right.

他们做的事往往没被注意到，也没像那些站在聚光灯下的人那样受到称赞。

They're not necessarily noticed or praised as much for what they do as as are the, you know, people really more in the spotlight.

但他们做的很多事情其实很受认可，甚至是理所当然的，就是没人夸他们。

But they may do things that are very appreciated or expected, but they just don't get that praise.

所以‘默默无闻’这个词，意思就是没人会提起他们。

So the word unsung here would mean, in a way, no one's singing about them.

就像我们常说‘歌颂你的成就’，这也是个说法。

Like, we talk about singing your praises, right, is another expression.

对。

Yes.

没人提起他们。

No one's singing.

没人称赞他们。

No one's praising.

也许他们没得到认可，但他们的作用至关重要。

Maybe they don't get recognized, but they are essential.

是的。

Yeah.

也许这个人是在好莱坞电影幕后工作的人，不是那个家喻户晓的明星面孔，但却是让一切顺利运转的关键人物。

Maybe this is someone who works behind the scenes of a a Hollywood movie or something, and they're not the famous Hollywood name and face, but they're making everything work.

比如制片人的助理之类的。

The assistant to the producer or something.

对吧？

Right?

就是这种人。

Something like that.

是的。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

我的意思是，如果一个人被称为‘无名英雄’，你觉得这是在贬低他吗？

I mean, do you think that if someone's called an unsung hero, do you think it's insulting?

或者

Or

不会。

No.

我觉得这不算侮辱。

I don't think it's insulting.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我不这么认为。

I don't think so.

我觉得这是在承认那些被忽视的人或事。

I think it's recognizing them or the thing that doesn't get recognized.

所以我觉得这根本不是侮辱。

So I think it's it's not an insult.

你觉得呢，米歇尔？

What do you think, Michelle?

不是的。

No.

我也这么觉得。

I don't think so either.

但我觉得，始终对那些改变我们生活的人表达感谢，这一点很重要。

But we it is important, you know, to to always thank people who make a difference in our lives.

确实如此。

Mhmm.

对，大家，我们也想提醒一下，如果你还没关注 All Ears English 播客的话

And, yeah, guys, we also wanna let you know that if you haven't hit follow yet wherever you're listening to the All Ears English podcast

是的。

Yes.

我们希望你能关注，这样就不会错过我们的任何内容。

We wanna make sure that you do that so you never miss anything from us.

是的。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

所以，赶紧点那个按钮吧。

So, yeah, go ahead and hit that button.

在YouTube上关注或订阅。

Follow or subscribe on YouTube.

是的。

Yes.

不过，林赛，我们上麦之前刚聊到这个。

But so, Lindsey, we were just talking about this before we got on the mic.

是的。

Yes.

它也可以指某件事或某个概念。

It can also be a thing or a concept.

对。

Yeah.

林赛，你最近刚用过这个。

Lindsay, you used this recently.

对。

Yeah.

我们刚才在播客里聊到持续性的问题。

We were talking about consistency here in our podcast.

这种持续性才是默默无闻的英雄。

That consistency is the unsung hero.

持续性可以体现在个人身上，但也不一定非得如此。

So consistency is on a person, but it doesn't have to be.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

说到播客的成功，我们这个节目之所以这么成功，靠的就是这个不炫酷却至关重要的持续性。

So when you talk about podcasting success, the reason our show has become so successful is the unsexy concept of consistency.

对吧？

Right?

有时候，那些默默无闻的英雄，如果是个概念，确实也挺平淡的。

Sometimes the the unsung hero is also a little unsexy if it's a concept.

对吧？

Right?

因为你可能会这么想。

Because you might think about it.

它不够炫目。

It's not flashy.

也不是我们的配色。

It's not our colors.

不是我们的封面或者摄影。

It's not our cover art or photography.

没错。

Right.

也不是我们的音乐。

It's not our music.

而是我们承诺发布时，从来不会缺席一集。

It's the fact that we never miss an episode when we say we're going to publish.

这种坚持其实比你想象的要少见得多。

And that is actually more rare than you would think.

对大多数人来说，做播客并不是全职工作。

Podcasting for most people is not a full time job.

对很多人来说，它还是个爱好，很难做到这种持续性的更新。

It's more of a hobby for many people still, and they don't meet those benchmarks of that consistency.

所以这一直是我们成功的重大推动力。

So it has been a major, way for to propel us to success.

这就是为什么我说，持续性才是播客成功背后默默无闻的英雄。

So that's why I've I said consistency is the unsung hero of podcasting success.

所以我们这里说的不是某个人。

So here we're not talking about a human being.

对吧？

Right?

我们说的是一种习惯，我想。

We're talking about a habit, I guess.

是的。

Right.

没错。

Right.

正是如此。

Exactly.

那我们来举几个例句吧。

So let's do some sample sentences.

好的。

So Okay.

我不知道你有没有意识到，但你其实是咱们这群朋友里最被忽视的功臣。

This is I don't know if you realize this, but you are really the unsung hero of our group of friends.

每当有人要吵架的时候，你都会出面调解，还总是确保我们定期聚一聚。

When someone is about to have an argument, you it and you always make sure we have regular get togethers.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，没错。

So, Yeah.

那种人可能是调停者，或者像我们常说的，我们会叫某个人——其实我先不说了，因为等下我会教一个更贴切的词。

Someone who is maybe a peacemaker or someone who, you know, we say the, like, we might call somebody, well, we're actually, I'm gonna save this because there's another word that I'm gonna teach later that I think is good for this.

不过，没错。

But, yeah.

这样的人就是默默无闻的英雄。

So that would be an unsung hero.

林赛，再举个例子？

Lindsey, what's another one?

演员阵容很棒，但真正的无名英雄绝对是幕后团队。

The cast was amazing, but the unsung heroes were definitely the crew.

你看到他们搬那些巨大的布景了吗？

Did you see them moving the huge set pieces?

看到了。

Yeah.

我刚才想到一个例子。

This is an example I thought of earlier.

比如在百老汇演出或电影幕后工作的那些人。

Someone working behind the scene of a of the scenes of a Broadway show or a movie.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Yep.

没错。

Yep.

你看到他们穿着黑衣服出来，或者 yeah。

You see them coming out in black or yeah.

他们工作特别拼命。

Working incredibly hard.

对吧？

Right?

是啊。

Oh, yeah.

今年我挺喜欢我的教授，但真正默默付出的其实是助教。

Or I liked my professors this year, but the unsung heroes were actually the assistants.

我有些复杂的内容搞不懂的时候，全靠他们帮忙。

They really helped me out when I was having trouble understanding some of the more complex topics.

因为去大大学上课，不一定能直接接触到主讲教授。

Because sometimes when you go to a large university, you don't necessarily have access to the main professor.

他们都在忙科研的事儿。

They're doing a lot of research.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yes.

米歇尔，你在马里兰大学也是这样吗？

Was that the case for you, Michelle, at University of Maryland?

对。

Yeah.

我觉得是的。

I think so.

确实是的。

It was yeah.

比如我的戏剧课教授，我跟他们都很熟。

Well, it like, my theater professors, I knew them well.

因为那类课人数少。

That was smaller.

但像那些大课、基础课之类的，确实很难真正认识教授。

But for the larger classes, the core classes, things like that, certainly, you don't really get to know the professor.

对。

Mhmm.

那你呢？

So what about you?

因为你上的是小学校。

Because you went to a smaller school.

我们上的是小学校。

We went to a smaller school.

所以我对教授们还比较熟悉。

And so I kind of knew my professors a little better.

他们还是会做研究，但学校不像大型研究型大学那样。

They still did research, but it wasn't like a huge research university.

是吧？

Right?

所以我觉得，在大型公立大学里，教授们面临着很大的压力，必须不断发表新研究成果。

So I think at the big state universities, there's a lot of pressure on professors to publish new research.

对吧？

Right?

所以他们会把助教派去负责和学生的主要互动之类的事情。

And so they'll put their teaching assistant in charge of really interactions with students and that kind of thing.

比如批改作业、打分这些事。

So grading, all these things.

给学生讲解内容、组织辅导，或者搞些额外的辅导活动之类的。

Explaining things to tutor, maybe extra sessions or whatever it is.

没错。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这些助教，我们叫他们助教。

So sometimes those TAs, we call them TAs.

也许我们的一些听众就在大学里当助教。

Maybe some of our listeners are TAs at a university.

我们有时候管他们叫无名英雄。

We call them unsung heroes sometimes.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

这又回到了我们之前聊过的话题。

So, and then this goes back to our conversation from earlier.

再举一个例子。

So here's one more.

疫情期间，Instacart的采购员就是无名英雄。

During COVID, the Instacart shoppers were the unsung heroes.

对。

Yeah.

可没人给他们敲锅打碗表示感谢。

So no one was banging pots and pans for them.

你懂我的意思吧？

You know what I mean?

但他们其实也在拿自己的安全冒险。

But they were really also putting themselves in harm's way.

就是那些帮别人买东西的人。

You know, people who were doing shopping for others.

所以，你也可以说他们同样是无名英雄。

So, yeah, you could call them the unsung heroes as well.

或者任何做着当时人们说的那种工作的人，叫什么来着？

Or really anyone that just was in a what was the term that was used?

就是那种必需的工作，我一时想不起那个词了。

Just a necessary job or a I can't remember the term that they called it.

但不管怎样，比如超市收银员这样的工作。

But anyways, a job that just a supermarket cashier.

超市不可能真的关门停业。

The supermarket can't really shut down.

人总得吃饭吧。

Have to eat.

所以他们必须得去上班。

So they were required to go to work.

对吧？

Right?

但这太吓人了，尤其是在超市，整天面对面接触那么多人。

But that's scary, especially in a supermarket because you're exposing yourself face to face to people all day every day.

对吧？

Right?

确实如此。

Absolutely.

没错。

Exactly.

是的

Yeah.

对

Mhmm.

好的，米歇尔。

Okay, Michelle.

那么，有哪些情况我们会提到那些默默无闻的英雄呢？

So what are some situations when we might talk about the unsung hero?

是的

Yeah.

比如表达对某人的感激，或者说明他们的价值。

Well, just sharing appreciation for someone or explaining their value.

还有呢，林赛？

Or what else, Lindsay?

是的

Yeah.

那我们来看看。

So let's see.

当你在谈论群体中的人时，比如橄榄球里总有四分卫，那个明星、焦点人物，对吧。

When you're talking about people as a part of a group, for example, there's always the there's the quarterback, right, the star, the person Yeah.

在聚光灯下的是他们，而其他位置——我不太清楚足球里具体怎么叫，但肯定有那种不太受关注、却让比赛得以运转的球员或角色。

In the spotlight, and then there's I don't know what the equivalent would be in football, what the positions are, or maybe it's a type of player or an on the field personality that maybe doesn't get quite as much attention, but they're making the game happen.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

没错。

Right.

就像我们说过的戏剧，后台的工作人员、学校里的家长，甚至他们。

Or in theater, like we said about, you know, the people backstage, the crew, the school, parents even.

对吧？

Right?

可能是《朋克英雄》里的角色。

Might be on Punk Heroes.

有时候，妈妈们也是这样，你知道的？

Maybe mothers sometimes, you know?

我觉得妈妈们常常在背后做了很多工作。

I feel like sometimes, like, the moms are the ones often, you know, doing a lot of the work.

这不总是这样，但很多日常琐碎辛苦的事，她们干得最多，却往往得不到多少认可。

It's not always true, but a lot of like the the tough nitty gritty work day to day and maybe getting little less credit at times.

这也不是绝对的。

It's not always true.

时代在变，性别角色也更灵活了，但总还是有一点……

Like, things change and gender is flexible, but there's a little

就是那种情况。

bit that.

总会有这样的说法，比如一个爸爸带着孩子出门，你知道的？

There's always that thing where they say, you know, a a dad out with his kids, You know?

是的。

Yeah.

每个人都会说，哎呀，这爸爸真棒。

Everybody, oh, he's such a good dad.

但妈妈这么做的时候，没人会觉得特别。

But nobody thinks that when it's a mom.

就好像，这没什么大不了的。

It's like No.

因为大家觉得这本来就是应该的。

Because it's it's expected.

对吧？

Right?

可要是爸爸，哎，你看他。

With the dad, oh, look.

他真是个好爸爸。

He's such a good dad.

是的

Yeah.

每个人看到爸爸抱着孩子都觉得特别可爱。

And and everyone thinks it's so cute to see a dad holding his baby.

我也经历过这种情况。

And I've been the victim of that too.

看到爸爸带孩子，就觉得理所当然；但看到妈妈带孩子，反而觉得不寻常。

Like, just thinking that as I see a dad out with a kid versus a mom, it's totally normal versus a dad.

天哪。

Oh my god.

真暖心。

That's so nice.

对吧？

Right?

所以妈妈们其实都是默默付出的英雄。

So there is there's a little something there in moms being unsung heroes kind of.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

就连办公室里的人也是这样。

So and even people in the office.

我是说，那些送快递的、送信的，还有那些默默维持日常运转的人，我们平时根本没想过要感谢他们。

I mean, the people, you know, deliver or like the people delivering mail, the people, you know, just keeping things together that we don't give them credit for.

我有时候在想，这些无名英雄会不会觉得自己被忽视了？

You know, I wonder if sometimes an unsung hero can feel underappreciated.

所以，也许我们该多留意一下他们，适时地给予认可，让他们从无名英雄变成被大家看见的英雄。

So it could be good to, you know, you know, just like draw attention to them and sometimes give these people that credit and turn them from an unsung hero to a sung hero.

不是。

No.

变成一个普通的英雄。

To a regular hero.

你每天接触的邮递员大多都是这样。

Most of your mail delivery person.

对吧？

Right?

收垃圾的人。

The people that pick up trash.

我的意思是，日常生活中有太多人默默维持着一切运转，我们却很少想到他们，其实只要说声谢谢就够了。

I mean, there's so many people in your day to day day to day life that just keep life moving that we don't really think about as much, but just saying thank you.

对吧？

Right?

没错，完全正确。

I mean, absolutely.

是的

Mhmm.

米歇尔，还有别的名言吗？

What would be another quote, Michelle?

对

Yeah.

另一个例子是，你在那场比赛里是个默默无闻的英雄。

Well, another example could be, you were the unsung hero of that game.

对

Yeah.

托马斯得了分，但所有得分都是靠你组织的配合。

Thomas made the points, but they were all coordinated plays through you.

是的

Mhmm.

是的

Mhmm.

是的

Yeah.

没错

Exactly.

有时候，真正策划战术的人并不一定是那个最终得分、成为焦点的人。

So sometimes the the person who, like, strategizes the plays is not necessarily the one that delivers it and gets to be seen as the person, you know, pulling off the the the score or the goal.

对吧？

Right?

是的

Yeah.

没错

Right.

比如在篮球里，大家都会关注助攻数。

Like in basketball, they, you know, they always count who's doing the assist.

明白了

Okay.

你明白吧？

You know?

所以他们管这个叫助攻，也就是说，那个做传球的人。

So they call it the assist and then, you know, who so that that's the person who did the pass.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

我很喜欢篮球这一点。

And I like that in basketball.

他们确实也看重这个。

They're you know, they do kind of value that as well.

明白。

Okay.

没错。

True.

那在美國社會裡呢？

So but what about in American society?

我的意思是，你覺得我們不是總說愛英雄嗎？

I mean, do you think because we talk about like, oh, you know, we we love a hero.

對吧？

Right?

我們確實愛英雄。

We love a hero.

是的。

Yeah.

那你覺得我們重視那些默默無聞的英雄嗎？

So do you think that we value the unsung heroes?

我覺得我們知道他們很重要，但美國文化有時候太表面了。

I think we know they matter, but I think I think American culture can be very surface level, a very superficial at times.

節奏太快，太受市場和金錢驅動。

Very fast paced, very market driven, money driven.

所以我觉得，我们的注意力大多都集中在那些英雄身上，而不是那些默默无闻的人。

And so I really think that most of our attention goes towards the hero, not the unsung hero.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Right.

比如名人总是最受关注。

Like, the celebrities get the attention.

你知道吗，名人能吸引那么多关注，而真正救死扶伤的人却很少有人留意，这真的挺让人感慨的。

You know, it's it's always it's always amazing, you know, of, like, how much attention the celebrities get over the people who are saving lives Yeah.

还有类似的情况。

And and things like that.

不过咱们也聊聊，还有哪些别的说法可以形容这样的人。

But let's talk about some other ways that we can describe this type of a person.

对。

Yeah.

第一个是‘脊梁’。

So the first one is the backbone.

对。

Yeah.

这个说法不错。

That's a good one.

你就是个脊梁。

You have a backbone.

我的意思是，要是没有脊梁，你连腰都挺不直，对吧？

I mean, if you didn't have a backbone, you wouldn't be able to sit straight up, right?

它在我们身体结构里是绝对不可或缺的。

It's absolutely essential in our bodies through our body structure.

所以，它也可以形容那种默默无闻的英雄。

And so it can also mean a bit of an unsung hero.

坚持才是我们英语学习的脊梁。

Consistency is the backbone of all our English.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Mhmm.

对。

Yes.

太棒了。

Love that.

这正是我刚才想到的那个。

And this is the one that we were I was thinking about earlier.

就是黏合剂，对吧？

So the glue, right?

你知道的，黏合剂就是把所有东西粘在一起的。

If you you know, the glue is just it holds it together.

对吧？

Right?

如果没有胶水，所有东西都会散架，但你根本不会想到胶水。

Everything everything would fall apart without the glue, but you're not thinking about the glue.

你只盯着那些大的部分，瞧，这个艺术项目多有意思。

You're looking at the big, oh, look at this in an in an art project.

看看这些漂亮的颜色。

Look at the beautiful colors.

瞧这个。

Look at this.

但你有没有想过，要是没有胶水，会怎么样？

But you're not thinking about how that if that glue weren't there, what would happen?

所以你可能会听到有人说，她是维系我们团队的纽带。

So you might hear something like she is the glue that holds our group together.

太棒了。

Perfect.

没错。

Exactly.