AEE 2632：别当老鼠！关于背叛他人信任的表达

这是《All Ears English》播客第2632期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six thirty two.

别当告密者。

Don't be a rat.

表达别人背叛你信任的常用说法。

Expressions for betraying someone's trust.

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当有人向别人告你的状时，你该怎么说？

What can you say when someone tells on you in English?

成年人和专业人士会用一些说法，孩子也会用另一些，但很多都跟一种小动物有关。

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今天就来了解一下吧。

Find out more today.

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嗨，米歇尔。

Hey there, Michelle.

你今天怎么样？

How are you today?

我挺好的，林赛。

I'm good, Lindsay.

你呢？

How are you?

我也很好。

Good.

米歇尔，你擅长保守秘密吗？

Michelle, are you good at keeping secrets?

你擅长保守秘密吗？

Are you a good secret keeper?

我觉得还行。

I think so.

我

I

说实话，我都会尽力的。

definitely I mean, I try my best.

对吧？

Right?

大部分时候，我觉得自己还过得去。

I I think for the most part, I I'm fine.

那你呢？

But what about you?

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，除非是那种我觉得如果不告诉对方，可能会对分享者造成危险的事情，不然我一般都不会说。

I mean, I think unless it's something that I really, you know, feel like if I don't share, it's gonna be dangerous for the person that shared with me.

对吧？

Right?

如果只是一些没什么大不了的秘密，我觉得我保密能力还挺强的。

If it's just something that is fine to keep a secret, I'm probably pretty good at it, I think.

但这里有个问题。

But here's the question.

是的。

Yeah.

你跟别人分享秘密的时候，会默认对方会告诉自己的配偶吗？

Does your spouse get to hear the secret from you?

你跟人说秘密的时候，是不是觉得对方一定会跟配偶说？

When you tell someone a secret, do you just assume that they're gonna tell their spouse?

其实这个问题特别好，我和我配偶还有几个朋友都聊过，这真是个热门话题。

See, this is a really good I've actually had this conversation with my spouse and some friends, this is a hot topic.

所以我觉得，在我们刚才的讨论里，大家基本都认同可以告诉配偶。

So I kind of think that in our little conversation, the consensus was it's okay to tell your spouse.

对。

Yeah.

除非是特别私密的事情，对吧？

Unless it's something like really personal Right.

特别隐私，说出来会让人特别难堪的那种。

And really private that, you know, would mortify them.

就像这类事情，没错。

Like these yeah.

确实存在。

There is

比如关于那个人的性生活细节。

a Like of a like a Yeah.

性生活方面的细节。

Sexual details about that person's relationship.

没错。

Exactly.

像那种事，我觉得就特别不合适。

Like, something like that, I think, would be very inappropriate.

尤其是如果对方是共同的朋友之类的。

Especially if, like, it's like a mutual friend or whatever.

就是这种事。

Something yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

但这真的要看具体情况。

It it really depends on the level.

不过我觉得，我跟人说些什么的时候，通常都默认对方的配偶也会知道。

But I think I do think that when I tell someone something, I'm pretty much assuming their spouse will

也是一样。

know too.

是的

Yeah.

我觉得这样没问题

I'm like, I'm okay with that.

如果我不舒服，我早就说了

And if I weren't, I would say something beforehand.

别告诉拉里了

Like, don't even tell Larry.

对

Right.

没错

Yep.

是的

Yeah.

这确实是个好问题

And that's a really good question.

今天这个话题和这集的内容真是挺有意思的转折。

It's a fun twist on this episode today and this topic.

确实如此。

It's true.

其实有个例外情况，比如你跟最好的朋友说了什么，你心里清楚，他们多半会告诉自己的配偶。

There's an there's an exemption there where when you tell, like, your best friend something, you understand they're probably gonna tell their spouse.

特别有意思。

Really fascinating.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

所以嘛。

So yeah.

如果你真的不希望对方的配偶知道，那就一定要提前说清楚。

Definitely tell them if you really don't want your spouse their spouse knowing.

对。

Yes.

不过呢，这个话题可以留到以后再聊。

So anyway, but that could be another episode for another day.

所以说，保守秘密其实是建立关系的一部分。

So, but yeah, keeping secrets is part of building connections.

关键就在于建立和维护对方的信任。

It's all about building and maintaining someone's trust.

如果你把别人的秘密，或者可能让他们惹上麻烦的事说出去，那就是在背叛他们的信任，破坏你们之间的联系。

So when you share someone's secrets or something that could get them in trouble, you know, you betray their trust and you break that connection.

所以今天我们要聊一些表达背叛信任的常用说法。

So, you know, today we're going to share some common expressions to talk about betraying trust.

这些说法其实都有一个共同点。

And all of these phrases have something in common.

林赛，是什么共同点？

Lindsay, what is it?

关键词是‘告密’。

The word is rat.

告密者

Rat.

它们共同的词是‘告密者’。

The word that they have in common is rat vermin.

告密者

Rat.

对。

Yes.

哦

Oh

天哪。

gosh.

好吧。

Okay.

有意思。

Interesting.

是的

Yeah.

这可有意思了。

This is gonna be this is gonna be an interesting one.

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So Lindsay, guys, we wanna remind you to hit the follow button wherever you're listening to the All Ears English Podcast so you never miss any episodes.

对

Yeah.

很好

Good.

当我们说一个人是‘rat’的时候，这到底是什么意思，Michelle？

So when we call someone a rat in English, what does it mean, Michelle?

这话什么意思？

What does it mean?

对，‘rat’就是那种出卖你、向别人告密的人。

Yeah, well a rat is someone who betrays our trust by telling on us.

他们通常会透露一些让我们惹上麻烦或丢脸的事情。

So they usually share something that can get us in trouble or make us look bad.

而且他们可能会把这些信息告诉某个有权威的人。

And they might share that information with an authority figure.

对。

Yep.

而且我猜今天我们教的词肯定都跟老鼠有关，对吧？

And yeah, I can imagine what words we're going to teach today, right?

很多词都是从‘rat’这个词派生出来的。

And there are, a lot of them are derived from rat, the word rat.

而且被说的人也不一定是因为泄露了什么秘密。

And it's not always necessarily a secret that was told to them.

通常只是他们自己偶然看到的。

It's usually something they just observed.

所以这跟把秘密告诉别人还不太一样，对吧？

So it's a little bit different than the secret, telling the secret to the partner, right?

这就像是打小报告。

It's like telling on someone.

在学校里，总有一些爱告状的孩子。

Like, in school, there are always kids that were tattletales.

你知道的。

You know?

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

你没给我们布置作业。

You didn't give us homework.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

或者随便怎么说吧。

Or or whatever.

那些孩子都不太招人喜欢，因为他们老是打小报告，今天咱们额外学个词——告密者。

And those kids were not fun to be around because they were always tattling what we would call as a bonus word for today, tattletale.

是的。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

你就是个告密者。

You're a tattletale.

动词是‘打小报告’，比如向别人打小报告。

And and the verb is to tattle on someone.

对的

Mhmm.

就是去跟老师告状，说这个孩子做了什么，那个孩子又做了什么。

It's to go and tell the teacher that this kid did this and that kid did that.

没错。

Right.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以说，没错。

So, yeah.

我的意思是，说到像告密者这样的例子，这确实算一个。

I mean, as far as examples go of a rat, yeah, that's one of them.

当学生向老师举报某件事的时候。

When a student tells the teacher something.

比如说，有学生看到别的同学考试作弊，然后去告诉老师。

So, like, if the student observes another kid cheating on a test and they tell the teacher.

这简直就是打小报告。

That would be like to like a rat.

大人之间也存在打小报告的情况。

And there can be adult tattling too.

对吧？

Right?

告密、打小报告。

Routing out, tattling.

同事向老板告状，说你每天早退。

A coworker tells the boss you've been leaving early every day.

对吧？

Right?

这可不怎么样。

That's not great.

没错。

No.

或者和兄弟姐妹之间。

Or or with a sibling.

我是说，兄弟姐妹会跟父母告状，说你昨晚偷偷溜出去了。

I mean, a sibling tells their parents that that you snuck out of the house last night.

对吧？

Right?

明白了。

Okay.

没错。

Yes.

兄弟姐妹之间确实经常这样互相告状。

Siblings will do that to each other for sure.

咱们再多聊聊老鼠吧。

Let's talk more about rats.

我们该用哪一个呢？

Which one do we use?

是的

Yeah.

我的意思是，我们不会无缘无故这么说。

Well, I mean, we wouldn't just say it randomly.

这需要一定的语境。

So it needs some context.

可能听起来就像这样：

So it might sound like this.

我听说你弟弟告你的状了。

I heard your brother told on you.

对

Yeah.

他真是个告密者。

He's such a rat.

对

Yeah.

这是一种用法，待会儿我们再讲几个其他的。

That's one way to use it, and we'll talk about a few more in just a minute.

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对。

Yeah.

这里还有很多呢，米歇尔。

So there are a lot more here, Michelle.

比如说，‘告发某人’这个说法。

You know, for example, to rat someone out.

刚才我们聊到这儿的时候，我第一个想到的就是这个。

That's the first one that came to mind when we were earlier in the episode.

告密就是向某人的上级或负责人揭发他的不当行为。

To rat someone out is to tell someone an authority or person in charge of someone else's wrongdoing.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

如果我发现艾尔莎的男朋友劈腿，我肯定直接举报他。

I if I found out Elsa's boyfriend was cheating, I would definitely rat him out.

也许有人会站在艾尔莎这边。

So maybe someone's loyal to Elsa.

对吧？

Right?

但那个男朋友就未必了。

Not so much the boyfriend.

所以这确实是一种典型的告密行为。

And so that's an appropriate sort of ratting out.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Right.

她明明答应过不声张的，结果在会上还是把我说了出去。

Or she promised not to say anything, but then ratted me out during the meeting.

听起来确实不太地道。

That sounds like that doesn't sound good.

这有点讲究，得注意词序。

Okay, so this is tricky because we've got, so be careful with the word order here.

一个是 rat someone out，另一个是 rat on someone。

The first one is to rat someone out and this next one guys is to rat on someone.

差不多，但两种说法都行，对吧？

Okay, so they're very close, but both work, right?

我本来没打算揭发他，但老板直接问我了。

So I I wasn't planning to rat on him, but the boss asked me directly.

我只能告诉她。

I had to tell her.

是的。

Yeah.

大家都说好要对偷糖果的事保持沉默，可有人还是把我们告发了。

Or everyone agreed to stay quiet about stealing the candy, but someone rat it on us.

老师都知道了。

The teacher knows.

糟了。

Uh-oh.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

所以这种事在教室里确实可能发生。

So it could definitely happen in in a classroom.

是的。

Yeah.

有人拿了糖果，类似这样的事。

Someone takes some candy, something like that.

是的。

Yeah.

肯定的。

For sure.

我还挺喜欢一个说法，说咱们这儿出了个告密的。

And then I like this expression, we have a rat.

对吧？

Right?

你有没有听过这种说法，比如‘我闻到一股阴谋的味道’？

Or have you ever heard like, I smell a rat?

是的

Yeah.

就是当你怀疑有人向别人告密了的时候。

It's when you think you're suspicious that someone has told on you.

是的

Yeah.

当然了

For sure.

当然了

For sure.

是的

Yeah.

意思就是，我们中间有内鬼，或者感觉有人在告密。

This means, you know, we have a rat or I smell a rat.

团队里有人在泄露不该说的信息，但又不知道是谁。

Someone in the group is sharing information they shouldn't, but we don't know who it is.

是的

Yeah.

所以

So

只有少数人知道这个计划。

only a few people knew the knew the plan.

不是每个人都清楚。

Not every now everyone knows.

我们肯定有内鬼。

We definitely have a rat.

对

Mhmm.

是的

Yeah.

肯定有人把我们的策略泄露给了竞争对手。

Someone must be leaking our strategies to our competitors.

我觉得咱们内部有内鬼。

I think we have a rat.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

这事儿挺有意思的。

It's it's it's interesting.

你知道的，这种情况嘛，确实挺常见的。

You know, these situations and yeah.

我的意思是，这类事情在这种情况里其实很普遍。

The word I mean, these are really all very common in these situations.

你要是真想揪出来，也没那么容易。

You're not gonna really tear them otherwise.

是的

Yeah.

这还挺有意思的。

It's kind of funny.

这种事我们在小学就接触到了，但可能会伴随我们一生。

This is something that we get introduced to in grade school, but then it can go on throughout our whole lives.

你可以想想双面间谍或者特工这类事情。

I mean, you could talk about, like, double agents or spies and things like that.

对啊。

Mhmm.

你懂的。

You know?

所以呢。

So yeah.

或者同事偷偷向老板告状，说你提前下班。

Or or colleagues just sort of telling the boss that you're leaving early.

这是一辈子都会伴随我们的一个概念。

It's it's a concept that goes throughout our whole lives.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

确实如此。

It really does.

那我们来做个角色扮演吧。

So let's do a role play.

我们现在是同事，明明该工作的时候却总在吃很长的午餐。

So here we are colleagues and we've been taking long lunches when we should be working.

糟了。

Uh-oh.

老板最近发现了。

The boss recently found out.

咚咚咚。

Dun dun dun.

咚咚咚。

Dun dun dun.

你听说老板知道咱们老迟到吃午饭的事了吗？

So did you hear the boss found out about the late lunches?

真的假的？

Seriously?

咱们内部肯定有内鬼。

We must have a rat.

我也是这么想。

I know.

可会是谁告的密呢？

But who would rat us out?

咱们的工作可一点都没落下啊。

I mean, we're still getting all our work done.

我猜是会计部的斯科特。

My guess is Scott over in accounting.

我们每次迟到，他都用那种眼神看我们。

He's always giving us the side eye when we walk in late.

你说得太对了。

You're so right.

他肯定就是内鬼。

He's totally the rat.

那我们现在该怎么办？

But what do we do now?

反正我是不会再吃那么久的午餐了。

I mean, I won't be taking long lunches anymore.

我也是。

Same.

希望公司只是给我们个警告。

Hopefully, we just get a warning.

好吧。

Okay.

我狗每次看我都是那副表情。

My dog's always giving me the side eye.

真的吗？

Really?

对啊。

Oh, yeah.

边境牧羊犬肯定会这样对你。

Border collies will do that to you for sure.

比如什么时候？

Like, when?

比如什么时候？

Like, when?

就是那时候。

Time.

他一饿起来就对我特别失望。

He's always disappointed in me when he's hungry.

没这么夸张，但确实如此。

Not quite as dramatic as this scenario, but yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

好吧。

Alright.

咱们看看有什么进展。

Let's see what we've got.

你刚才说，你听说老板发现大家午餐迟到了吗？

So first, you started by saying, did you hear the boss found out about the late lunches?

然后你回答，真的假的？

And you said, seriously?

我们这儿肯定有内鬼。

We must have a rat.

所以说，肯定有个人在暗中告密。

So it's you know, there is a rat somewhere.

没错。

Right.

对。

Yeah.

你说你知道，但会是谁出卖我们呢？

And you said, I know, but who would rat us out?

也就是说，谁会去打小报告？

So it's like, who would tell on us?

你说你怀疑是斯科特，对吧？

And you said you think it's Scott, right?

然后你在财务部，我说，你真说对了。

And in accounting, and then I said, you're so right.

他就是那个告密者。

He's totally the rat.

对吧？

Right?

我注意到他那些言语和肢体上的小细节了。

So and then I'm picking up on the signs that the verbal nonverbal signs that he gave has given.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Yep.

没错。

Yep.

没错。

Yep.

就是这样。

Exactly.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

我们确实。

We're yeah.

我想我们最好别再一起吃午饭了。

I guess we better stop those lunches.

确实该停了。

Better stop those lunches.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

各位，如果想听关于其他动物的节目，可以收听第2562期。

So guys, if you wanna listen to a episode about another animal, check out episode twenty five sixty two.

那期节目叫《像鹰一样盯着你的英语》。

That was We're Watching Your English Like a Hawk.

对。

Yeah.

我们有很多关于动物的节目。

We could there's lots of episodes about animals.

是的。

Yeah.

我们都这样。

We all do.

我的意思是，内容太多了。

Mean, there's so much.

这门语言太丰富了。

This is a huge language.

关于人与人之间的联结，还有很多值得我们一起探索的内容，各位。

So much to explore together around the theme of human connection, guys.

所以以后你们听到‘rat’这个词，就想想吧。

So anytime you are hearing the word rat, just yeah.

我的意思是，在这种关于告密的语境下，我们之前学到的那些词，比如‘告密’，对吧？

I mean, this is in this context around tattling, as we said, the bonuses that we learned were tattle, right?

告密，还有‘告密者’，这也是一个说法。

To tattle and to be a tattletale is another one.

但我觉得这些词听起来太孩子气了。

But I think those bonuses are more juvenile in sounding.

比如，你会不会在职场上，跟同事说会计部门的斯科特是告密者？

Like, would you say that about this guy, Scott, in accounting to your coworker at, you know, as a professional?

不会。

No.

对吧？

Right?

不会。

No.

不会。

No.

不会。

No.

我更倾向于说，比如我女儿打我儿子的时候，她总是嚷嚷着‘她打我了’。

I would say it more about like, my is my whenever my daughter hits my son and then she he's like, always just like, she hit me.

她一遍又一遍地喊‘她打我了’。

She hit me over and over.

我就说，嗯，明白了。

And I'm I'm like, yeah.

我就说，行吧。

I like alright.

咱们先慢慢处理一下。

Like, we'll figure it out a little bit.

对。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

没错

Exactly.

所以这就像在这种情况里，用‘rat’这个词的青少年版表达。

So that's like the juvenile version of the use of this word rat in this context here.

明白吗？

Okay?

是的

Yeah.

好的

Alright.

不错

Good.