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这是《All Ears English》播客第2652期。
This is an All Ears English podcast episode twenty six fifty two.
什么时候该放手？美国文化中对坚持的看法。
When to call it, the American narrative toward perseverance.
欢迎收听《All Ears English》播客，全球下载量已超过两亿次。
Welcome to the All Ears English podcast downloaded more than 200,000,000 times.
你是不是觉得自己的英语进步停滞了？
Are you feeling stuck with your English?
我们会教你如何抛开完美主义，通过建立真实连接，变得自信又流利。
We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection.
本期节目由两位美国主持人带来：英语冒险家林赛·麦马洪，以及纽约电台女孩米歇尔·卡普兰，他们从科罗拉多和纽约市为你直播。
With your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.
想每周收到文字稿？请访问 allearsenglish.com/subscribe 订阅。
And to get your transcripts delivered by email every week, go to allearsenglish.com forward slash subscribe.
当你觉得某件事实在行不通，想结束它的时候，英语里该怎么说？
What can you say in English when you need to end something if it's just not working out for you?
今天学个新表达，再聊聊你们文化里对放弃的看法，来场深入的对话。
Learn a new phrase today, plus learn how to get into a robust conversation about your culture's narratives towards giving up.
你有没有过这样的经历：英语对话里每个词都听得懂，可轮到自己说时，话却突然卡住了？
Have you ever been in an English conversation where you understood everything, but when it was your turn to speak, the words disappeared?
你其实学了不少高级表达，可一到关键时刻，还是忍不住用那些简单又安全的词。
You've learned more sophisticated phrases, but in the moment, you fall back on simple, safe words.
这正是我们推出全新在线课程《主动词汇》的原因。
That's exactly why we created our brand new online course, Active Vocabulary.
这门课帮你把被动认识的词汇变成能随时调用的主动表达，关键时刻再也不怕词穷。
This course helps you move your vocabulary from passive recognition to active use so the words are there when you need them in those important moments of your life.
而且，只要你报名，就能加入每周的实时对话俱乐部，练口语更直接。
Plus, when you become a student, you get invited to the weekly open conversation club to practice your speaking live.
现在报名最多能省一百美元，但优惠到周日就结束了。
Save up to $100, but the offer ends on Sunday.
赶紧去 allearsenglish.com/vocabulary 抢这个特惠吧。
Go now to allearsenglish.com/vocabulary to get the special deal.
网址是 allearsenglish.com/vocabulary。
That's allearsenglish.com/vocabulary.
嗨，林赛。
Hey, Lindsey.
你最近怎么样？
How are you?
嗨，米歇尔。
Hi, Michelle.
我挺好的。
I'm doing pretty well.
你呢？
How are you?
你最近还好吗？
How's it going?
是啊。
Yeah.
我挺好的。
I'm doing well.
谢谢。
Thanks.
Lindsey，最近你试过什么但后来放弃了的吗？
Lindsay, what is something you tried but gave up on recently?
比如少吃甜食、学点新东西，或者养成什么好习惯之类的。
So could be something like sweets, learning something, a good habit.
没有。
No.
我没放弃吃甜食，Michelle。
I did not give up on sweets, Michelle.
最近我冰箱里的冰淇淋比以往任何时候都多。
I have more ice cream than ever in my fridge these days.
不过要说放弃的，应该是早起这件事。我之前坚持了一阵子，但最近几个月我打算多睡一会儿。
But I would say the giving the getting up early, I did I did I was doing it for a while, and I've tried to sleep a bit more in the last few months.
所以我最近在稍微调整一下。
And so I've been like adjusting that a bit.
早上散步的时间变短了。
So my walks are a little shorter in the morning.
我干脆不再早起，多睡一会儿。
So I gave up on getting up super early to get more sleep.
是的。
Yeah.
睡眠的重要性，我最近才真正意识到，简直太关键了。
Sleep is I'm just realizing how unbelievably important it is.
确实如此。
It is.
某种程度上，它比什么都重要。
It's almost more important than anything in a way.
对吧？
Right?
你呢，米歇尔？
What about you, Michelle?
最近你有没有放弃什么？
Is there anything you've given up on lately?
我一直在努力吃得更健康一些。
I've give I've tried to give up on, like I've been trying to eat more in a clean way.
就算吃加工食品，我也尽量选成分更干净的。
I mean, even when I have processed food, it's with, like, cleaner ingredients.
我真的在很认真地努力。
I'm I'm really, really trying.
是的。
Yeah.
我不再买那些配料表长得吓人的东西了。
Not to buy things with, like, you know, the whole long list of ingredients.
我还不算完美。
I'm not perfect.
是的。
Yes.
但确实如此。
But Yes.
我确实更留意这些事了。
I I, like, really pay attention to that stuff more.
我不确定这会不会有帮助，但是……
Don't I know if it's gonna help, but
我努力了。
I try.
这总归是件好事。
So that's something.
不过今天我们要聊一个表示停止或放弃的表达。
So but today we're gonna talk about an expression we use when we stop something or give up.
对。
So Mhmm.
我们可以说‘算了’。
What we can say is call it.
这个表达是受另一期播客的启发。
And this was inspired by another podcast episode.
我们在角色扮演中用到了这个说法。
We use this phrase in the role play.
如果你想看看，那期节目是‘allearsenglish’。
So if you wanna check that out, that was allearsenglish.
没戏，几种说‘没用’的有趣表达。
No dice, fun ways to say something didn't work.
我喜欢这个说法。
I love that.
对。
Yes.
没戏。
No dice.
这真有意思。
That was fun.
录这期节目特别开心。
That was a fun episode to record.
所以各位，听完这期节目后，去听听那一期吧，我们今天的内容就是受那期启发的。
So guys, at the end of this episode, go and check that one out, but that is where the idea here came for today's episode.
那我们能听一段那个角色扮演的片段吗，米歇尔？
So do we have a little excerpt from that role play then, Michelle?
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
事情是这么发生的。
So this is this is how it it came up.
好的。
Alright.
好吧。
Alright.
哇。
Wow.
听起来今晚不太顺啊。
It sounds like tonight is not our night.
是啊。
I know.
我觉得咱们干脆别做了，下周再试吧。
I say we just call it and try again next week.
同意。
Agreed.
好的。
All right.
就这么定了。
Call it.
对吧？
Right?
我说咱们就到此为止吧。
I say we just call it.
今天我们就专注这个。
That is what we're focusing on today.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Right.
我们已经宣布这事正式结束了。
It's like, we announced that it's officially over.
算是吧。
Somewhat.
是的。
Yeah.
一旦正式宣布，就再也没有回头路了。
Make the official announcement and there's no going back at that point.
这其实就是下定决心的意思。
You've just you essentially it means to decide.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
下定决心，对。
To decide Right.
对。
Yeah.
我是说，你现在可能会想到类似的情况，比如棒球比赛时突然下雨。
I mean, you might hear this with like I'm just thinking now when there's like rain at a baseball game.
哦，是啊。
Oh, yeah.
是的。
Yes.
他们正在考虑，到底要不要继续下去？
And they're trying to decide, are they gonna keep it going?
要不要等一等？
Are they gonna wait?
有时候他们会等好几个小时。
Sometimes they wait hours.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Mhmm.
对。
Mhmm.
还是干脆直接取消，就说算了。
Or are they just gonna call it and say, okay.
我们不打了。
We're no more game.
是的。
Yes.
对。
Yes.
网球也是这样。
Tennis was like that too.
雨天不能在湿的球场上打。
You can't play on wet courts.
总有个时候，大家等着他们宣布是否继续。
So there's always a certain moment when you were waiting for them to call it.
你知道的，这场比赛到底还比不比？
You know, is this match canceled or what are we doing?
今天我们就来聊聊这个。
So we're gonna get into this today.
不过各位，赶紧点一下这个关注按钮，订阅All Ears English播客。
But guys, hit that follow button right here on the All Ears English podcast.
别错过我们节目的任何一集。
Don't miss a second of our show.
今年夏天我们会推出超多精彩内容，绝对值得期待。
We've got so much good content for you coming out this summer.
你真的不能错过。
You do not wanna miss it.
明白吗？
Alright?
没错。
That's right.
所以，用这种表达来表示放弃或结束某件事，其实特别能拉近人与人之间的距离，因为它展现了真诚和自我觉察。
So, yeah, using this type of expression for giving up or just ending something is great for connection because it shows honesty and self awareness.
对吧？
Right?
放弃、停下来，其实特别容易引起共鸣。
Giving up, stopping something, it's really relatable.
我们这个文化总是强调不能放弃。
I mean, we have this culture of never give up.
对吧？
Right?
确实如此。
We do.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
That's true.
是的。
Yeah.
这确实很有文化代表性。
That is really cultural.
我们总在说要坚持、要坚持，绝不能放弃。
This narrative we have of keep trying, keep trying, never give up.
但有时候，确实该放手了，得做个决定，毕竟我们不可能把精力都撒在每件事上。
But sometimes, yeah, it's strategic to call it, to make a decision because we can't put our energy everywhere all the time.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
是的。
Yeah.
说真的，我们都曾满怀热情开始一件事，后来却明白，不管什么原因，这事儿根本行不通。
I mean, we've all started something with good intentions and then just realized this isn't gonna work for whatever reason.
而且确实如此。
And Yeah.
你说，你对放弃这件事怎么看？
You know, I I mean, what's your philosophy on giving up?
这问题真不好答，因为……
This is a tough one because Yeah.
我了解到我伴侣的父母有个规矩，孩子选了某项运动，就得坚持到底。
You know, I know that my partner my partner's parents, when a sport was chosen for the season, the the rule was that the kids had to continue it.
就是不能中途退出。
Like, couldn't quit.
比如打几场之后，也得把整个赛季打完。
After a few games, they had to finish the season, for example.
然后再决定要不要继续。
To decide like if, you know, and then decide whether to quit after that.
他们不允许孩子在赛季中间撂挑子，也不允许随便说‘我不干了’。
Like they weren't allowed to quit halfway through a season and they couldn't call it and just say this is not for me.
必须坚持到结束，我其实挺认同这种做法的。
They had to see it I kind of respect that.
你知道吗，我觉得只要坚持一段时间，就该把一件事做完。
You know, that idea that like if for a certain amount of time, you should see something through.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Right.
因为一开始你可能特别讨厌它，但后来某天突然就变了，你才发现，哦，原来我从中学到了东西，或者我其实挺擅长这个项目的某个方面。
Because maybe in the beginning, you hate it and then something happens like later on and you're like, oh, actually, I learned this lesson or I'm actually pretty good at this aspect of the sport.
就是这样。
Exactly.
所以我个人更倾向于这种做法。
So I feel like I tend more in that direction.
我想给它一个真正的机会。
I wanna give it a real chance.
我不希望一遇到困难就放弃，除非我真的确定这不是我该做的，或者我只是太懒了，又或者我只是受不了学新东西时的麻烦。
Like, I don't wanna give in and quit on something until I really know if it's not for me or if I'm just being lazy or if I just don't like the inconvenience of learning something new.
对吧？
Right?
确实有点麻烦。
It's a little inconvenient.
刚开始学的时候总会有点不自在。
It's a little uncomfortable to be a beginner at
总得有个时候吧。
some point.
是啊。
Oh, yeah.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
真的特别不自在。
It's so uncomfortable.
没错。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
但这种‘我们不能放弃’的想法，确实深深根植于我们的文化中。
But it is definitely very embedded in our culture, this idea of, oh, we can't give up.
你不能半途而废。
You don't quit.
没错。
Yes.
这其实另有一个话题，改天再聊吧。
You know, there's a that's a whole other conversation for another day.
对。
Yeah.
不过呢。
But yeah.
我的意思是，咱们刚才说的，‘停止做某事’到底是什么意思。
I mean, so let's talk about so call it, as we've been saying, it means to decide to stop doing something.
是的。
Yes.
当我们实在受不了了，累得不想再试了，或者事情怎么都不顺的时候，就会用这个词。
So we use it when we've had enough, we're tired of trying, or just something isn't working.
那我们来举个例子吧。
So here, let's do a little example.
那你现在还去上高温瑜伽课吗？
So are you still going to hot yoga?
说实话，上完第三节课我就放弃了。
Honestly, I had to call it after the third class.
对啊。
Yeah.
所以你就干脆觉得这事儿不适合你了。
So you just kinda decided that wasn't for you.
是吧？
Right?
这有点不一样。
That's a little bit different.
上课和加入一个团队不一样，团队可是靠你的。
Classes are a little bit different than joining like a team where the team is relying on you.
对吧？
Right?
在我看来，上课就是单纯地消费一个课程。
Like, classes, you're just a consumer of a class in my mind.
你懂的。
You know?
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
Right.
所以我想，这种放弃或退出的想法，其实因情况而异，有时候你可能该再给它一次机会，对吧？
So I guess, yeah, this idea of calling things or giving up, it's it's really different depending on the situation and whether maybe you should give something more of a chance or Right.
如果没那么严重的话。
If it's not that serious.
那就算了。
It's like, okay.
所以你不喜欢瑜伽课？
So you don't like the yoga class.
是的。
Yeah.
不是。
No.
也没多大关系。
Not not a big deal.
下次试试普拉提课吧。
Try the pilates class next.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Right.
你可以，这样也没问题。
You can that's fine.
那，Lindsay，我们该怎么用呢？
So but, Lindsay, how do we use it?
这种结构一般是怎样的？
What's kind of the structure?
好的。
Okay.
一般来说，我们希望这样来搭建结构。
Generally, guys, what we wanna do is we wanna create a structure like this.
得赶紧结束工作了。
Have to plus call it.
比如说，现在都这么晚了。
So for example, it's so late.
你还在学习吗？
Are you still studying?
没有。
No.
我好几个小时前就该结束了。
I have to call it hours ago.
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
And so yeah.
对。
Mhmm.
我不是说必须得打电话才算结束。
I don't mean I have to call it on the phone.
对吧？
Right?
咱们就确认一下，这个‘结束’就是这个意思。
Let's just make sure that's Yes.
我是说，我得放下手机不打了。
I have to call the sitting on the phone.
对吧？
Right?
就是，你知道的，我得停下来了。
It just you know, I had to stop.
或者我再举个例子。
Or here's another example.
我们还接着拼宜家的家具吗？
Should we keep working on the IKEA furniture?
我觉得我们得做个了断。
I think we have to call it.
这事儿快把我们逼疯了。
It's driving us both crazy.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
典型的难题。
Classic challenges.
你有没有买过宜家的家具，结果怎么都组装不起来？
Have you ever ordered something from IKEA and just not been able to put it together?
就像你刚才说的，根本搞不定。
Just like you just couldn't do it.
我们还挺走运的。
We've been pretty lucky.
说实话，我本来就不是擅长动手组装的人。
I mean, I I'm not the big putter together of things.
是的。
Yeah.
我的意思是，我会帮忙的。
I mean, but I'll help.
不过呢，是的。
But yeah.
那个，我一直把它放在那儿，挺有意思的。
The I I have had it it there there it's funny.
每次到了这种时候，我就看着，不管是丹在弄，还是我在帮忙，你总是……
It's always this moment where I watch like, if Dan's doing something or if I'm helping and you
你觉得你弄不了。
think I can't get it.
我真的弄不了。
I can't get it.
我真的弄不了。
I can't get it.
这是什么？
What is this?
这是什么？
What is this?
然后突然间，你就变成了这样，
And then all of a sudden, you're just you're like,
碎片，是的。
pieces Yeah.
恍然大悟了。
Fit There's a realization.
是的。
Yeah.
我懂你的意思。
I know what you mean.
我懂你的意思。
I know what you mean.
确实如此。
It's true.
这种感觉真不错。
That's a good feeling.
对吧？
Right?
是啊。
Oh, yeah.
但我们非得用这个表达方式吗？
But is have to and call it the only construction we use?
还有没有别的方法来表达这句话？
Are there other ways we could construct this phrase?
没有。
No.
我们也可以这样处理。
We could also do this.
我们也可以用‘going to’加上‘call it’来说。
We could say going to plus call it.
对吧？
Right?
所以就是‘going to call it’。
So going to call it.
这通常用在谈论自己时。
So this is usually when talking about yourself.
明白了。
Okay.
对吧？
Right?
比如，你一整天都在写东西。
So for example, you've been writing all day.
是的。
Yeah.
我确实写了一整天，但现在真的要停了。
I really have, but I'm gonna call it.
我再也集中不了精神了。
I can't focus anymore.
没错。
Right.
你注意到了吗，林赛说的是‘gonna call it’。
And notice Lindsay said gonna call call it.
对吧？
Right?
说到这个结构，我们理论上该说‘going to’，但其实大家都会直接说‘gonna’。
So when we talk about the structure, we're saying going to, but you guys know we're gonna say we're gonna say gonna.
是的。
Yeah.
我们不会真的说‘going to’。
We're not we're not gonna say going to.
对。
Right.
没错。
Exactly.
然后可以提个建议。
And then there's could give a suggestion.
所以如果你这么做，可能会这么说。
So if you're doing that, you could might sound like this.
咱们要不要结束？
Should we and then say, call it.
我们要不要结束？
Should we call it?
我们要不要结束？
Should we call it?
这个食谱没按计划进行。
This recipe is not turning out as planned.
我们算了吧。
Should we call it?
对。
Yes.
我们直接点外卖吧。
Let's just order takeout.
再次强调，这里说‘算了吧’，意思就是决定不再继续这个食谱了。
Again, making the decision to not continue with the recipe, right, is what call it means here.
最后的表达方式就是‘算了吧’。
And then the final construction is let's call it.
对吧？
Right?
我们一起决定这么做吧。
Let's decide to do this together.
对吧？
Right?
比如，米歇尔，你会怎么说？
So for example, Michelle, what would you say?
我们要不要继续找？
Should we keep searching?
不用了。
No.
算了吧，我觉得我们找不到的。
Let's call it, I don't think we're gonna find it.
对。
Yeah.
所以这时候，你是在决定停止寻找。
So here you're calling off a search of some sort.
你一直没找到它。
You haven't been able to find it.
你没成功。
You haven't been successful.
别管了。
Just forget it.
也许我们直接买一个新的，或者干脆认栽算了。
Maybe we'll buy whatever it is, a new one or just cut our losses.
对。
Yes.
没错。
Exactly.
就是这样。
Exactly.
好了，Michelle。
Alright, Michelle.
我们开始吧。
Here we go.
其实还有其他说法意思差不多，比如‘收手’。
So there are other expressions that kind of mean the same thing, like call it quits.
是的
Yeah.
我想‘call it’可能是‘call it quits’的简略说法。
I guess maybe call it is just a shortened version of call it quits.
你觉得是这样吗？
Do you think?
是的
Yeah.
对
Mhmm.
其实我也这么想。
Actually, I think so.
大概吧。
Probably.
大概吧。
Probably.
它的用法非常相似。
It's used in a very similar way.
这么说吧，我来举个例子。
I mean, so here's how you would use it.
你周末还去徒步吗？
Do you still go hiking on the weekends?
不去了。
No.
我不得不放弃了。
I had to call it quits.
我膝盖受伤了。
I injured my knee.
它也可能是指‘call it off’的缩略形式。
The other thing it might be short for is call it off.
不过‘call it off’和‘call it quits’的意思是不一样的。
But call it off and call it quits mean two different things.
是的
Yeah.
对吧
Right?
是的
Yeah.
没错
Exactly.
call it off 是指真的取消
Call it off means, like, to actually cancel
取消某件事
Cancel something.
比如说，我想的是婚礼
Like, I'm thinking of, like, a a wedding.
我们不得不取消了婚礼
Call We had to call off the wedding.
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对吧？
Right?
这指的是
It's a
某个特定时间发生的特定事件。
specific event at a specific time.
它到底会不会发生？
Is it gonna happen or not?
而‘call it quits’的意思是放弃任何事，比如任何爱好或者你常做的事。
Whereas call it quits means you quit anything, any hobby, anything that you tend to do.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
我是不会说‘我要放弃学法语’这样的话的。
Like, I don't think I would say, like, I'm gonna call off learning French.
不会。
No.
我要放弃
I'm gonna call
这个念头。
it off.
根本不可能。
It's like no.
绝对不行。
No.
是的。
Yeah.
完全没错。
Completely.
那咱们就今天到此为止吧。
Then there's then there's let's call it a day.
所以这句话通常就是表示今天先到这里。
So this is usually just end something just for the day.
说到底，意思就是这件事今天告一段落了。
At the end at the end of the day, we're saying this is done.
比如，我们该留到多晚呢？
So for example, how late should we stay?
其实，今天就到这里吧。
Actually, let's call it a day.
你们今天干得特别棒。
You guys did great work today.
我特别喜欢这句话。
And I love this phrase.
我喜欢是因为每次我说这句话的时候，就觉得一切都结束了。
I love it because when I'm saying it, I'm like, all done.
你知道的吧。
You know?
对。
Yeah.
感觉真不错。
It feels good.
听着挺舒服的。
It has a good feeling to it.
你知道的吧。
You know?
没错。
Yep.
这是一天的
It's the end of the
结束。
day.
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
Exactly.
我们可以说今天到此为止，也可以说今晚到此为止。
Or we can call it a day, but we can also call it a night.
是的。
Yeah.
所以这个说法更偏向于真的要去睡觉了。
So you this one is more about actually going to bed.
对吧？
Right?
说‘到此为止’挺有意思，因为通常我们都是在一天结束时这么说。
So call it's interesting because you would say call it a day usually at the end of the day.
我们现在把这一天标为结束，它就要成为过去了。
We're we're labeling this was a day and now it's gonna be in the past.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Right.
不过当我们说‘咱们早点休息吧’，意思就更偏向于该睡觉了。
So but when we say let's call it a night, it's more, okay, let's call it a night.
我的意思是，你睡前说‘咱们结束吧’也可以，说‘咱们早点休息吧’也行。
I mean, you could say let's call it a day when you're going to sleep, but you could also say let's call it a night.
是的。
Yeah.
这有点像晚上发生了一些事情。
It's it's kinda like there's been something happening in the evening.
对吧？
Right?
比如你刚招待了朋友。
Like, maybe you've had friends over Yeah.
打打牌什么的。
To play cards or something.
你是主人，就对大家说：嘿，各位。
And, you know, you're the host, and you're just saying like, hey, guys.
我累了。
I'm tired.
咱们今天就到这儿吧。
Let's call it a night.
其实就是暗示大家该走了。
And you're basically saying leave my home.
是的。
Yeah.
我们之前做过几期关于这个的。
We we've done episodes about this.
没错。
Yes.
想方设法让客人在晚上结束时离开你家。
Trying to get people to leave your home at the end of the night.
去看看过去几个月的那些节目吧。
And so check out those episodes from the last couple of months.
我家。
My home.
好吧。
Okay.
对。
Yeah.
所以要么说‘咱们今晚就到这儿吧’，或者不管晚上有什么活动都行。
So let's call it a night or, I don't know, just any any event is happening in the evening.
不过你不会在下班时这么说吧，Michelle？
You wouldn't say this like at the end of a workday though, would you, Michelle?
我的意思是，下午五点哪能叫‘晚上结束了’呢，天还没黑呢。
I mean, at 5PM, you wouldn't call it a night because it's not the nighttime yet.
那还是说今天到此为止吧。
So call it a day still.
对。
Yeah.
真有意思。
So interesting.
但听起来可能就像这样。
But it it might sound like this.
我累坏了。
So I'm exhausted.
我也是。
Me too.
咱们今晚就到这儿吧。
Let's call it a night.
或者你晚上和伴侣一起组装家具，比如宜家的那些。
Or maybe you're assembling furniture with your partner in the evening, your IKEA furniture.
对吧？
Right?
结果就是怎么也弄不完。
And you just can't quite finish it.
干脆就撂在这儿不管了。
And you just say, let's leave everything here.
明天再弄吧。
We'll do it in the morning.
咱们休息吧。
Let's call it a night.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Exactly.
你这算是认输了。
You're kinda giving up
因为你这是把当天要做的事全放弃了。
for you're just giving up whatever you're doing for the day.
明白吧？
Alright?
没错。
Exactly.
所以这些说法很相似。
So similar phrases.
这个说法来自扑克牌游戏。
So this one comes from poker.
该弃牌时就弃牌。
So know when to fold them.
对吧？
Right?
我觉得这句还出现在一首歌里。
That's in a I think that's in a song.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yes.
我觉得这好像是首老乡村歌曲里的歌词。
I think it's in, like, an old country song or something.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
放弃。
Give up.
所以没人选择认输。
So no one to fold them.
我不是特别玩扑克的人，但我想当你弃牌的时候，
So I'm not really a poker player, but I guess when you give up your hand
是啊。
Yeah.
你弃牌，就是觉得
You fold, you
自己肯定能赢。
know that you're gonna win.
是这样吗？
Is that what it is?
还是
Or
不是。
No.
不是。
No.
不是。
No.
你知道自己会输。
You know you're gonna lose.
会输。
Gonna lose.
当然了。
Of course.
这说得通。
That makes sense.
这么一说更明白了。
Makes a lot more sense.
你放弃是因为你觉得自己会赢。
You give up because you're gonna win.
这就像是
It's like
我不该玩扑克。
I should not play poker.
不对。
No.
尤其是不能拿钱去玩。
Especially not with money.
不对。
No.
那你还在争取那个大客户吗？
So are you still trying to land that big client?
哦，没有。
Oh, no.
我试过，但我知道什么时候该认输。
I gave it a shot, but I know when to fold them.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Mhmm.
这个你可能不会太常听到，但偶尔也会碰到。
This one you're not gonna hear necessarily as much, but you might.
现在你明白了吧，这到底是什么意思。
And now you know, I mean, what it means.
所以就是这样。
So Yeah.
我真不敢相信我居然又跟他约了会。
Or I can't believe I went on another date with him.
那简直糟透了。
It was terrible.
米歇尔，你得学会适时放手。
Michelle, you gotta know when to fold him.
这种情况很少见，真的更少见。
It's a rare it's more rare.
对吧？
Right?
我们从那首乡村歌曲里听过这个词，作为母语者当然懂，但平时其实很少用。
We know it from that one country song and we know the phrase as native speakers, but we probably don't use it that much.
可能一年才用一两次吧。
Maybe once a year or something.
我不太确定。
I don't know.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
不过这个说法更常见一些，我觉得。
But this one is more common, I think.
认输
Throw in the towel.
对
Yes.
我同意
I agree.
没错
Mhmm.
是的
Yeah.
也就是放弃的意思
So also give up.
这说法其实来自拳击
So this is, like, from boxing.
当拳手撑不住的时候，教练就会把毛巾扔进拳台里
So a coach throws a towel in the ring when the fighter is done.
好吧。
Okay.
我一直好奇这个说法是从哪儿来的。
I always wondered where that one comes from.
这还挺有意思的。
So that's interesting.
对。
Yeah.
那你还在为马拉松训练吗？
So are you still training for the marathon?
没有。
No.
我放弃了。
I threw in the towel.
我的膝盖实在受不了了。
My knees just couldn't handle it.
是的
Yeah.
好吧
Okay.
还是你把水槽修好了？
Or were you able to fix the sink?
我也只好放弃了。
I had to throw in the towel.
我试了好几个小时，最后还是叫了水管工。
I tried for hours and then finally just called the plumber.
没错。
Absolutely.
你
You
什么都做不了。
can't do anything.
我当初就该这么做的。
I probably should've done that originally.
我知道我不是那种会修东西的人。
I know I'm not a fix it person.
我根本就不是这种人。
I'm just not that person.
我不擅长修东西。
I don't
你这儿都快散架了。
fix You're falling apart here.
是的。
Yeah.
不是。
No.
我也不是。
I'm not either.
我得给几个人打电话，不过没关系。
I I I have to call people, but that's alright.
咱们来角色扮演一下，看看这整个情况是怎么串起来的。
So let's do a role play and see how this all fits together.
好。
Alright.
你看，咱们俩在这儿，朋友之间。
So here we are friends.
晚上打电话聊天。
We're talking on the phone at night.
正聊一部刚看完的奈飞剧集。
We're discussing a Netflix series that we've watched.
明白吧？
Alright?
明白。
Alright.
开始了。
Here we go.
那你最后看《怪奇物语》了吗？
So did you finally see stranger things?
哦，我试过了。
Oh, I tried.
我看了前三集，但实在看不下去了。
I watched the first three episodes, but I have to call it.
我对科幻题材真的提不起兴趣。
I'm just not into sci fi.
我完全理解。
I completely get that.
该放手时就得放手。
You have to know when to fold them.
是的。
Yeah.
我确实给了它机会。
I definitely gave it a chance.
那你呢？
What about you?
你把整部剧看完了？
Did you finish the series?
我快看到最后几集了，但实在太晚了。
I'm on the last few episodes, but it's so late.
我得去睡觉了。
I'm gonna have to call it a night.
是的。
Yeah.
你知道吗？
You know what?
你说得对。
You're right.
我该去睡觉了。
I better get to bed.
我也是。
Me too.
好。
Alright.
回头再聊。
Talk to you later.
再见。
Bye.
好的。
Okay.
行。
Alright.
不错。
Nice.
所以这里我们用了很多日常表达、一些习语，还有今天教给大家的主要内容。
So here, we're using lots of the expressions, some of the idioms, and some of and some of the main things that we taught our listeners today.
那米歇尔，你最先说的是什么？
So, Michelle, what did you say first?
我问你，你看过《怪奇物语》吗？
I asked you, did you see Stranger Things?
米歇尔，这部剧是你自己在追的吗？
And is this a series that you watch yourself, Michelle?
《怪奇物语》？
Stranger Things?
没有。
No.
这部剧适合你吗？
Is it for you?
我不太看这类剧。
It's not for me.
但我知道这部剧很火。
But I know it's popular.
我猜有很多人看。
I bet a
很多观众都在追。
lot of people listen to it.
特别喜欢。
Love it.
对。
Yes.
没错。
Yes.
我说我看了前三集，但后来就弃了。
And I said, I watched the first three episodes, but I had to call it.
是啊。
Mhmm.
所以我之后就没再看了。
So I didn't watch it anymore.
林赛，你有没有过这种感觉？别人总说这部剧特别棒，但你得熬过前面几集才行，这事儿我觉得特别有意思。
Lindsey, do you ever feel I I it's always so interesting to me when people say, oh, this show is amazing, but, like, you just have to get through the first few episodes.
你得熬过去，对吧？
You just have to get through and right?
你有没有听过别人这么说？
You hear people say that?
是的。
Yeah.
我
I
明白。
know.
他们说后面真的越来越精彩。
They're saying it it gets really good.
然后呢，也就这样吧。
And and it's like, okay.
嗯，是这样。
Well,
如果我想看，那当然好。
if I wanna Great.
现在这么一说，倒像是在干活了。
Do Now I just It makes it sound like work.
我要是想干活，自己去干就是了。
If I wanna do work, I'll do work.
对吧？
Right?
前几集里总得有点什么能抓住我的地方。
If I there has to be something in the first couple of episodes that hook me.
还得有点意思。
And be
在里面。
in it.
所以是这样。
So yeah.
我也不太明白这一点。
I I also don't really get that.
感觉就像在干活。
It seems like work.
当我只是得
When I just have to
熬过去的时候。
get through it.
这太糟糕了。
That's terrible.
但最后会有回报。
And then it pays off.
我的意思是
I mean
到了晚上，打开奈飞的时候，你只想轻松看看，别无他求。
At the end of the night, when you turn on Netflix, you're like, all you want is just to be entertained, and that's it.
你根本不想动脑筋。
You don't want to work.
对啊。
Right.
你不想逼着自己
You don't wanna have to be
要是我再努力点，就能把这几集刷完了。
like, well, if I just work harder, I can get through these episodes.
然后呢，确实如此。
And then yeah.
这就像是
It's like a
早上回去上班的时候，那种心态真够呛。
bunch attitude for the morning when you're back to work or something.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
对。
Yes.
没错。
Exactly.
这总让我觉得好笑。
It's what always makes me laugh.
那你后来怎么说的？
And then what did you say?
我说，我完全理解。
I said, I completely get that.
你得知道什么时候该放手。
You have to know when to fold them.
所以我只是想说，我明白你为什么不再看那个剧了。
So I'm just saying I understand why you stopped watching that show.
这种事看书的时候也会发生。
Like and this can happen with a book too.
是的。
Yeah.
我就是那种，看书的时候总不知道该什么时候放弃。
I'm that I don't know when to fold anything when I'm reading a book.
我就想着，也许后面会变精彩。
I'm just like, maybe it'll get good.
说不定会好起来。
It might get better.
估计后面会挺不错的。
It's probably gonna be good.
所以你就硬着头皮一直看下去。
So you just keep plowing through.
对吧？
Right?
硬着头皮看下去。
Plowing through.
这话说得真到位。
That's a good one.
好吧。
Okay.
是的。
Yep.
对。
Mhmm.
然后你说我问你，你把那部剧看完了没？
And then you said I said, did you finish series?
你说你只剩最后几集了，但时间太晚了。
And you said, I'm on the last few episodes, but it's so late.
听起来你是在追剧，但还挺有分寸的。
So it sounds like you're binge watching, but you're being very responsible.
你说你得休息了，该睡觉了。
And you say, I'm gonna have to call it a night.
所以你得关掉，去睡觉了。
So you're gonna have to turn it off, go to sleep.
去睡觉吧。
Go to sleep.
没错。
Exactly.
就是这样。
There you go.
这些都是表达收尾的好说法。
So these are great ways to say that you're wrapping something up.
你不会继续做这件事了。
You're not gonna continue with something.
有些事就是不太适合你。
Something is just kinda not working for you.
对吧？
Right?
没关系的。
That's alright.
今天节目很棒，米歇尔。
Good episode today, Michelle.
大家去2574号网站看看。
Guys, go over to 2574.
趁还没用上之前，先把英语学好。
Learn this English well before you need it.
对吧？
Right?
我们喜欢在事情迫在眉睫之前就把它们做好。
We like to do things well before we they have to be done.
我们会提前做好准备。
We prepare ahead of time.
所以去把那些词汇学了吧。
So go learn that vocabulary.
Michelle，今天你有什么最终的体会吗？
And, Michelle, any final takeaway for today?
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得，要明白什么时候该坚持下去，确实需要一定的情商。
I I think it does take a certain emotional intelligence to know when do I keep on going?
对。
Yes.
什么时候该放手呢？
When do I call it?
这也反映出我们的文化特点。
And also it says a lot about our culture.
我很想听听听众们的想法：在你们的文化里，放弃是可以接受的吗？
So I'd be curious to hear from our listeners, is your culture is it is it okay to give up?
对吧？
Right?
完全没错。
Totally.
我刚才想的也正是这个，米歇尔。
That is exactly what I was thinking too, Michelle.
这真是个特别好的共鸣点。
So this is a great connection moment.
你可以跟别人聊聊彼此文化中对放弃的看法。
You could start a conversation with someone about their culture and your culture.
不同文化里，关于放弃的故事都是怎样的？
What are the narratives around giving up?
你知道在美国文化里是怎样的。
Know what it is in American culture.
就是绝对不能放弃。
It's very much never give up.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Yes.
但人的心理还有一种现象，叫沉没成本。
But there's also this there's also something that happens in our human mind, the sunk cost phenomenon.
一旦在某件事上投入了钱或精力，就算不顺利，也很难抽身离开。
When we've already put in a certain amount of money or work into something, we have a harder time walking away from it even when it's not working out.
这就跟我们的文化观念冲突了，于是就引发了很多深入的讨论。
So that kind of collides with our cultural narratives and we get into some really robust conversations here.
对吧？
Right?
是的
Yeah.
没错
Exactly.
对
Yeah.
很有意思
Very interesting.
你们找母语者聊聊这个话题吧
Guys, have a conversation with someone with a native speaker about this.
问问他们那边的文化是怎样的
Ask them about their culture.
还可以深入了解下，小时候给你们讲的童话故事，或者常听的儿歌、读的绘本
Also get into, like, what are the fairy tales that you were read as a kid or, like, the songs you consume, the the storybooks that we read to children.
这些能让你对自身文化有更深的理解
That will tell you so much about your own culture.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
That's right.
正是如此。
Exactly.
完美。
Perfect.
好的。
Alright.
很高兴今天我们聊了这个话题。
Well, I'm glad we talked about this today.
Lindsay，我们要不要就此结束？
And, Lindsay, should we call it?
就这么定了。
Let's call it.
是的
Yep.
已经结束了。
It's been called.
已经结束了。
It's been called.
这就结束了。
Calling it.
好。
Alright.
再见，
Bye,
各位。
guys.
保重。
Take care.
再见。
Bye.
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Thanks for listening to allearsenglish.
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