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这是《All Ears English》播客第266期。
This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six sixty.
别总拿名人来抬高自己。
Stop dropping names.
让你的听众和故事产生共鸣。
Connect your listeners to the story.
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是不是觉得自己的英语进步卡住了？
Are you feeling stuck with your English?
我们会教你如何摆脱恐惧，真正流利地说英语——关键是建立连接，而不是追求完美。
We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection.
本期节目由两位美国主持人带来：英语冒险家琳赛·麦卡锡，以及纽约电台女孩米歇尔·卡普兰，她们分别从科罗拉多和纽约市为你直播。
With your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.
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当你在和别人聊天时提到一个对方可能不认识的人的名字，别让他们一脸茫然地干坐着，试着给点背景信息，帮他们跟上话题。
When you say someone's name while talking with people who may not know the person, You can let them sit there confused, or you can pull them in by giving them a little bit of context so they can relate.
今天就来学学怎么做吧。
Learn how to do it today.
你有没有过听完一段对话，走开后心里想：等等，他们刚才到底说了啥？
Have you ever walked away from a conversation thinking, wait, what did they just say?
母语者说话都挺快的。
Native speakers speak fast.
他们还经常插话。
They interrupt.
而且满嘴都是俚语。
They use slang.
他们说的可不是教科书里的英语。
They don't speak textbook English.
如果你有时候觉得自己总慢半拍，别担心，你不是一个人，也绝对不是能力不够。
If you sometimes feel one step behind, you're not alone and you're not incapable.
你只需要有针对性的听力训练。
You just need targeted listening training.
第一步，弄清楚你现在的水平，以及问题出在哪里。
The first step, find out your exact level and where the breakdown is happening.
去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 做个快速免费的流利度测试吧。
Take our quick free fluency quiz at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
再次提醒，地址是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。
Again, that's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
你好，米歇尔。
Hello, Michelle.
今天过得怎么样？
How's it going today?
嘿，林赛。
Hey, Lindsay.
我挺好的。
I'm good.
你怎么样？
How are you?
还不错。
Good.
Michelle，你平时过节都跟谁一起过？
Michelle, who do you usually celebrate the holidays with?
哦，我觉得主要是家人。
Oh, I would say family.
不过最近有几次，我们去了朋友家过节。
But sometimes recently, there was a holiday that we went to our friend's house.
其实有好几次了，要是家里人不在城里，或者去朋友家更方便，我们就去朋友那儿。
Well, a couple times actually, we've gotten been to friend's houses, you know, just if our family isn't in town or it's more convenient.
你呢？
How about you?
是的。
Yeah.
我的话，肯定是和家人一起，要么在东海岸，要么在科罗拉多。
I mean, definitely family, I would say either East Coast or in Colorado.
要看我是不是去我哥哥家，那就会碰到他和他妻子那边的全家。
Depending on if I go to my brother's house, it'll be all of his, like, his wife's family.
就是这种大家庭，类似的情况。
So extended families, things like that.
你懂的。
You know?
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
Exactly.
所以当我们聊起别人的时候，和不同一群人在一起，事情就容易搞混。
So when we talk about other people, things can get confusing when we're with a certain group.
尤其是当你聊的那个人根本不认识那些人的时候。
So especially if the person we're talking to doesn't know the people.
就像你有没有遇到过这种情况，
Like, you ever Yeah.
有两个人在聊天，他们以前是同学，你后来才认识他们，然后他们就在那儿聊过去的事，你只能在旁边听着，
Been in a situation where a couple people were talking and they maybe they went to high school together and you met them later on in life and then they're just talking about it and you're like, alright.
算了，我还是走神吧。
Like, I guess I'll zone out.
没事的，
Like, it's fine.
你其实懂的，
You get because you get it.
能有这种共同回忆，对他们来说挺好的，
It's fun to have that for them to have that connection moment.
你不想打扰，但心里就是觉得，好吧。
So you don't wanna get in the way, but you're just like, okay.
是的
Yeah.
那太好了
That'd be great.
没错
Exactly.
没错
Exactly.
不过再说一遍，我们在《All Ears English》里讲的，都是关于建立连接的时刻。
So but but again, we're all about connection moments here on All Ears English.
所以我们需要掌握一项技能。
And this is so we need a skill.
那到底该怎么做，米歇尔，才能把人拉进来，避免这种情况发生呢？
What is the skill we need to have then, Michelle, to be able to pull people in so that doesn't happen?
对。
Right.
所以提供背景信息很重要。
So it's important to give context.
对。
Mhmm.
得解释一下，稍微交代下前因后果。
To explain, give a bit of a background.
对。
Mhmm.
别一上来就说‘哦，还记得Stacy之前干了啥啥啥的’。
Instead of just saying, oh, and Stacy remember when Stacy did this and blah blah blah blah blah.
大家都在聊Stacy，你却一头雾水，根本不知道他们在说啥。
They're all talking about Stacy and you're like, I don't you know?
没错。
Yes.
完全正确。
Totally.
完全正确。
A 100%.
所以我们现在说到重点了。
So we're getting into this.
所以别光提名字，而是给那些不认识Stacy的人介绍一下她是谁，为什么值得关注，对吧？
So instead of just saying people's names, you pull in someone who maybe doesn't know Stacy by giving them context of who they are and why we should care, Right?
某种程度上是这样。
In a way.
没错。
Right.
所以说确实如此。
So yeah.
所谓的背景，就是简单说明一下彼此的关系，让听的人能明白。
So, like, by context, we mean, you know, describing the relationship briefly so it makes sense to the other person.
比如有人问我假期和谁一起过的，我不会随便报一堆人名。
So, like, if someone asks me who I spent the holidays with, I I'm not gonna just say random people's names.
我假期是和乔、鲍勃还有史蒂文一起过的。
Oh, I spent the holidays with Joe and Bob and Steven.
明白了。
Okay.
你懂的吧？
You know?
如果听的人不认识他们，肯定会觉得困惑，甚至没代入感，这肯定不是我们想看到的。
Because if my if the listener doesn't know them, they're gonna feel confused or even disconnected, and certainly, we don't want that.
没错。
Exactly.
我特别期待和大家一起掌握这个技巧，因为它太关键了。
I can't wait to get into this skill together because it's very key.
我们的听众在母语里其实早就懂这个道理，但在英语里，这是一项重要的沟通技能。
And obviously, our listeners know this in their native languages, but we need this as a connection skill in English.
所以，各位赶紧关注这个节目吧，别错过我们每周五期精彩内容。
So, guys, go ahead and hit follow right now on the show so you don't miss any one of our amazing five episodes a week here on All Ears English.
另外，今天为什么不把节目分享给朋友呢？
Also, why not send the show to a friend today?
想想看，有没有哪位朋友也相信连接比完美更重要？
Go ahead and find think of one friend who also believes in connection, not perfection.
打开短信，把你们常听的节目链接发给他们吧。
Open your text message and send them a link to the show wherever you like to listen.
明白吗？
Okay?
当然。
Definitely.
对。
Yes.
那Lindsay，这为什么重要呢？
So Lindsay, why does this matter?
重要是因为别让任何人掉队，对吧？
It matters so that no one loses the conversation, right?
他们不会跟丢话题，就像我们常说的那样。
They don't lose the thread as we say.
别让他们陷入那种状态。
Don't let them have that moment.
正如你所说，米歇尔，这没什么大不了的。
As you said, Michelle, it's okay.
你明白的。
You get it.
没关系的。
It's fine.
他们以前是同学。
They went to high school together.
你可能会走神一会儿，但其实没必要这样。
You can zone out for a minute, but maybe that doesn't have to happen.
相反，你应该把他们拉进来，让他们明白为什么这个人对你来说可能很重要。
Instead, you pull people in and show them maybe why this person might actually be relevant to you.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Right.
就是这样。
Exactly.
对。
Mhmm.
因为这样能帮他们跟上对话，让他们和故事产生联系，也觉得被包括在内，你知道的。
Because then this will help them follow the conversation and connect them with the story and also feel included, you know?
而且我意思是，再说一遍，他们当时并不在场。
And that I mean, again, you know, they they weren't there.
也许对他们来说，这也没那么重要。
Maybe it's not that, you know, serious to them.
但好吧，他们多多少少还是有点关联的。
But okay, they have some connection.
也许他们，怎么说呢，大概上过高中吧。
Maybe they I mean, they probably went to high school.
你知道的，总有些办法能让内容显得更贴近他们的生活，更有趣一点。
They, you know, they there might be some ways in which you can make it seem a little more relevant or interesting to them.
就算不一定特别吸引他们，至少你也表明你努力过了，也明白我们聊的是大家熟悉的事，不好意思啊，我们会再回来跟你们说的。
And even if not gonna be super interesting to them, at least you show that you've tried or you understand that, okay, yeah, we're talking about something that we we know and sorry, and we're gonna get back to you.
没错。
Exactly.
建立连接的关键，就是让人感到被包含在内。
And that's the key to connection is to feel included.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
这应该是我们的首要目标之一。
That should be our number one one of our number one goals.
我们想表达清楚。
We want to be clear.
我们想显得自信，但也要让别人感受到被纳入其中，因为这才是建立关系的关键。
We want to sound confident, but we want to include people because that's what builds relationships.
没错。
Exactly.
这件事其实源于我亲身经历的一件事，米歇尔。
And this was actually inspired, Michelle, by an experience that I had.
嗯，我在听。
Uh-huh.
对。
Yeah.
说说看。
Tell us.
是的。
Yeah.
所以那是很久以前的事了。
So back in the oh gosh.
那大概是2025年感恩节前后。
This was back around Thanksgiving of twenty twenty five.
那时候我和伴侣在加州，去见了他高中时的朋友。
It was a while ago I was out in California with my partner, and we went to see my partner's friend from high school.
我们特地跑到圣莫尼卡附近，和她还有她父母一起吃晚饭。
We went up to, like, near Santa Monica to have dinner with her and her parents.
就是我伴侣的朋友，还有她父母。
So it's my partner's friend and her parents.
后来提到了一个人的名字，就叫娜塔莎吧。
And someone's name came up, let's say Natasha.
提到了娜塔莎这个人。
Natasha came up.
她是跟我伴侣的朋友，还有我伴侣，一起上过学的人。
And this was some someone that my partner's friend had gone and my partner had gone to school with.
父母也在场。
And the parents were there.
于是，我伴侣的朋友——我们叫她丹妮丝吧——对妈妈说：
And so what my partner's friend said, let's just call her Denise, for example.
“你还记得娜塔莎吗？”
So Denise said to her mom, you remember Natasha.
对吧？
Right?
她跟我一起参加过戏剧社。
She was in the drama club with me.
之前，她妈妈根本没把娜塔莎放在心上，心里还纳闷：这人是谁啊？
Before that, her mom was kind of spacing out Natasha, who, you know, who is this person?
她根本不在乎。
She didn't really care.
她根本不认识这个人。
She didn't know.
但丹妮丝提醒了她妈妈，说明了娜塔莎是谁，为什么重要。
But Denise reminded her mom about what who this person was and why they mattered.
对吧？
Right?
我其实也不认识娜塔莎，因为我根本不认识丹妮丝，那时候在学校里。
And then I also don't know didn't know Natasha because I didn't know Denise, right, in school.
她跟我说，这是咱们俩初中时的同学，指的是我伴侣和丹妮丝。
So she said to me, this is someone that we both went to school with back in middle school, meaning my partner and Denise.
我希望我没把听众搞糊涂了。
So I hope I just didn't lose our listeners there.
娜塔莎，你得倒回去才能跟上。
Natasha rewinds to follow it.
这是一个陌生人的名字，突然冒出来
It's this unknown party whose name comes
了。
out.
没错。
Exactly.
在座的只有部分人知道这个人是谁。
And only some of you at the table know who this person is.
你得把其他人也拉进来。
You need to pull in the other people.
而这次的其他人，就是我和丹妮丝的妈妈。
And the other people in this case were me and Denise's mom.
好的。
Okay.
对。
Right.
你想想，要是现在我和琳赛在这儿聊天，一开口就提名字，那通常是因为觉得对方可能认识那人。
I mean, imagine if Lindsay, if the two of us were right now talking and we're like, oh yeah, it's a Like, if we if we throw out names, it's usually because somebody might know them.
所以啊，对。
So like Right.
如果我们提到奥布里，你们就知道是谁了，对吧。
If we say Aubrey, you know who they Right.
你们知道这个人是谁。
You know who that is.
是的。
Yeah.
如果我们提到丹，我觉得丹已经被提过很多次了，大多数人应该都知道他是我丈夫。
If we if if we say Dan, I think Dan has been mentioned enough that most people probably know as my husband.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
So like Yes.
丹几乎就是，我老跟丹开玩笑。
Dan is almost I I I always joke with Dan.
我说，你都快成我们圈子里的标志性人物了。
I'm like, you're a character on all your
是的。
Yeah.
他确实有点。
He is kind of
某种程度上是的。
in a way.
太好了。
Yay.
他是个配角。
It's a supporting character.
没错。
But like yeah.
就是这样。
Exactly.
如果我们聊天时完全不提他，那反而显得我们没顾及听众的感受。
So it would be weird if we were just talking and we're like I mean, it would just show that we're not paying attention to our listeners.
我们根本没考虑到他们。
We're not we're not thinking about them.
所以关键是，你要根据跟你说话的人来调整你的表达方式。
So the key here is to just really tailor your explanation to the person you're talking to.
在这种情况下，琳赛，听起来你的朋友分别给你和你妈妈提供了相应的背景信息。
So in this situation, Lindsay, it sounds like your friend gave context for both her mom and for you.
是的。
Yes.
对吧？
Right?
所以她做了针对性的调整。
So she tailored it.
对。
Mhmm.
没错。
Exactly.
所以她多花了一点心思，多做了一点额外的工作。
So she took that extra step, the extra work.
对吧？
Right?
如果她只是说，还记得娜塔莎吗？
So if if she just said, remember Natasha?
她妈妈可能会一头雾水。
Her mom might have been confused.
是的。
Yeah.
那都过去好久了。
It was so long ago.
那时候还是初中或者小学呢。
It was middle school or elementary school.
是的。
Yeah.
但当时还有一点额外的背景信息。
But there was that little extra context.
她和我一起参加戏剧社。
She was in the drama club with me.
是的。
Yeah.
这可能就是因为她妈妈常送她去戏剧社，说不定还认识娜塔莎的妈妈。
That probably triggered because her mom probably dropped her off at at drama club, and maybe she knew Natasha's mom.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
如果她妈妈说‘我不知道’，她其实还能再继续多说一点。
And she could always go further if her mom was like, oh, I don't know.
如果事情重要，你可能会说‘这不重要’，或者直接说‘不行’。
And, know, if it's important, you might tell you might either say, it doesn't matter.
或者你也可以直接说‘不行’。
Or you might say, no.
别忘了，她妈妈可是那个总是帮忙卖饼干的热心人。
Remember, like, her mom was the friendly one who always helped with the cookie sale.
你明白我的意思吧？
You know what I mean?
如果这事对她来说很重要，你还可以继续往下说。
You can keep on going with it if it's
重要的是她愿意讲出来。
important for her to tell.
讲出来能让对话更生动，让人更有画面感。
People the image because it brings the conversation to life more.
我的意思是，她妈妈本来可以直接说，好吧。
I mean, the the mom could have just said, okay.
对。
Yeah.
我真的不太记得是谁了。
I don't really know who it was.
你懂的。
You know?
但当她能把名字和真人对上号的时候，那感觉挺有意思的，真的。
But it's fun when she can actually put a face to a name and actually, okay.
但你讲的不就是这个人吗。
But that's who you're talking about.
就是那个你突然意识到的瞬间，对吧？
You know, that moment where then you realize?
是的。
Yeah.
是谁来着？
Who it is?
对，没错。
Oh, yeah.
当然了。
Of course.
是啊。
Yeah.
哦，我想起来了。
Oh, I remember.
她就是，你知道的，
She's, you know
这真的挺有意思的。
That is really fun.
我完全同意。
I agree completely.
然后她跟我说，这是个我们初中时候都认识的人，因为我跟丹妮丝的童年完全没交集。
And then to me, she said, this is someone we both went to school with back in middle school because I'm totally disconnected from Denise's childhood.
你们全都
You're all
是通过我的伴侣才跟丹妮丝扯上关系的，对吧？
way out of Denise through my partner.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
因为我根本没见过这个人，但她提供的这些背景信息已经足够让我理解整个故事了，就这些。
So so since I've never met this person, it gives me enough context to understand the story, and that's it.
但她特意为我们俩都补充了这些背景。
But she took the effort to give both of us the context.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
丹妮丝听起来是个挺不错的姑娘。
Denise sounds like a good a good gal.
她对这事还挺讲究的。
She's funny about it.
上周末我第一次又见到了她，那次她没像之前那样。
I actually saw her again for the first time since that this instance, again last weekend, and she was doing but she wasn't doing this.
这次她只是随便提了几个名字，没做任何说明。
This time, she was just kind of mentioning names and not giving
任何背景信息。
any context.
丹妮丝，这一期是专门讲给你的。
She Denise, this episode is for you.
是的。
Yeah.
挺有意思的。
Was funny.
不管怎样，真的特别有趣。
Anyways, really funny.
我们并不总是这样。
We don't always do this.
有时候我们就陷在故事里了
Sometimes we just get caught up in the story
然后你知道的，这也没关系。
and we you know, It's okay.
不过我们还是想教大家最恰当的方式，就是
Again, but we wanna teach you guys the best way to Yeah.
试着建立联系，而不是让人干坐着，心里想：这些人我都不认识。
Perhaps build those connections instead of just making someone sit there like, ta da ta I don't know these people.
好了。
Alright.
我想我还是看看手机吧。
I guess I'll look at my phone.
你懂的，当对方开始这样反应的时候，你就知道情况不对了。
You know, you can always tell then the person gets on just like, okay.
我打算花点时间，好好看看手机。
I'm just gonna take some time and look at my phone.
你明白吧？
You know?
你能看出来，他们的眼神已经开始放空了，对吧？
Well, you can see the glazing over, right, in the eyes.
当你发现有人走神了，他们的眼神就会变得懒洋洋的。
You know when we've lost someone, you would see their eyes are kinda like lazy.
那时候你就知道，自己说得不太对了。
That's when you know you've done something wrong.
对吧？
Right?
是的
Yeah.
对
Yeah.
没错
Yes.
别让他们走神
Don't let them glaze.
你得把他们的注意力拉回来
You gotta pull them back in.
好
Alright.
没错
Exactly.
工作上遇到压力的事，该怎么用英语说，才不会显得太夸张或者太死板？
When something stressful happens at work, do you know how to talk about it in English without sounding too dramatic or too robotic?
下周的《商务英语》播客第六零一期，我们会教你怎么用自然的表达来描述工作中的压力时刻，讲清楚发生了什么，和同事建立真正的连接。
On our Business English Podcast next week in episode six zero one, we'll show you natural phrases to describe stressful situations, to share what happened and connect with your coworkers through the experience.
应对工作压力，不只是找对词这么简单，更重要的是说得像真人，用英语建立更牢固的人际关系。
Because handling pressure at work isn't only about finding the perfect words, it's about sounding human and building stronger relationships in English.
搜索‘商务英语’，现在就点关注吧。
Search for business English and hit the follow button now.
我们到时候见。
See you there.
好的。
Alright.
好的，米歇尔。
Okay, Michelle.
咱们得把这个技能教给听众，毕竟之前已经反复强调过它有多重要。
So let's give our listeners this skill because we've talked about how crucial it is.
我们已经讲了个故事。
We've told a story.
我们讲这种故事的时候，该怎么让别人也参与进来呢？
How can we include others when we tell stories like this?
是的。
Yeah.
就像我们之前说的，首先得考虑你们的关系。
So again, like we mentioned, first, have to consider the relationship.
你跟这个人是怎么认识的？
So how do you know the person?
那就把这一点说出来。
So share that.
你可以说，我上一份工作的同事，或者楼下的邻居，对吧。
So you could say, my coworker from my last job, my neighbor downstairs Mhmm.
大学时的朋友。
A friend from college.
对吧？
Right?
所以你得想想你和这个人是什么关系，该怎么表达出来。
So you have to think about how you know the person and how you can express that.
然后当然了，你得根据对方来调整说法，因为你对想拉进来的那个人多少有点了解。
And then, of course, you need to tailor it to the person you're talking to because you know you know something about the person you're trying to pull in.
你对你要讲的那个人其实挺熟悉的。
You know a lot about the person you're talking about.
那具体该怎么调整呢？
So how do we tailor it?
如果你是在跟一个很熟的朋友说，那就可以讲，这是我们以前同学。
If you're speaking to a close friend, this is someone we went to school with.
对。
Right.
就是说，你和你这位密友之间，大概就是这样。
Meaning, you and the close friend, I guess.
对吧？
Right?
也许吧
Maybe?
是的
Yeah.
没错
Exactly.
对
Yeah.
对
Yeah.
或者跟妈妈说，她当年和我们一起参加过戏剧社。
Or speaking to your mother, she was in drama club with us.
对
Right.
或者跟新认识的人说，她当年和我们上过同一所初中，或者说和我上过。
Or speaking to someone new, she went to middle school with us or with me, I guess you could say.
对。
Right.
对吧？
Right?
所以你会考虑，嗯，整体上要讲到什么程度，要多详细。
So you kinda think about how, you know, broad, how much you're gonna zoom in on it.
你会不会说，哦，她和亨德森先生一起参加过戏剧社，你知道我说的是谁吧？
Are you gonna say, oh, she was in drama club with mister Henderson with you know what I mean?
是的。
Yes.
你要讲到多细呢？
How much are you gonna zoom in?
哪些部分是重要的？
How much is important?
没错，就像他们是怎么把这个和故事联系起来的？
And exactly, yeah, like, how do they connect this to the story?
这也很重要。
It's also important.
比如，她住在你附近，或者曾是你的同事，又或者他也在西班牙留过学。
So for example, she lives in your neighborhood or she was your coworker at your first job, or he also studied abroad in Spain.
我们要把关系串起来——你是怎么认识这个人的，这个人又怎么和故事产生关联。
So we're connecting the relationship, how you know that person, how the other person could connect to it, and then how that person can how that person connects to the story.
没错。
Exactly.
正是如此。
Exactly.
今天讲这个话题好像有点复杂，但我相信听众都能明白。
It seems like a very cumbersome topic to explain today, but I think our listeners get it.
我觉得我们今天要讲什么，心里都很清楚。
I think we know exactly what we're talking about today.
那我们来具体说几个场景吧，Michelle，做个示范。
So let's break into some scenarios here, Michelle, and demonstrate.
好了吧？
Alright?
好的。
Alright.
这是第一个情景。
So here's scenario one.
好的。
Alright.
我前几天碰见凯文了。
I ran into Kevin the other day.
他是我上一份工作的同事。
He's that coworker from my last job.
我以前经常提起他。
I used to talk about him a lot.
哦，不错啊。
Oh, nice.
他最近怎么样？
How's he doing?
明白了。
Okay.
你给了我一些线索，稍微交代了点背景。
You gave me a couple of cues, a little context.
他是我上一份工作的同事，而且你挺有意思地加了问号，虽然我们原文里并没有。
He's that coworker from and you also interestingly kind of added question marks even though it's not in our writing.
你在句尾加了问号。
You added question marks at the end.
他是我上一份工作的同事。
He's that coworker from my last job.
我以前经常提起他。
I used to talk about him a lot.
对吧？
Right?
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你这是在问我，我有没有印象，对吧？
I'm ask you're asking me if I remember in a sense.
我这是在给你提示呢。
I'm like giving you clues.
这样能帮你想起来吗？
Like, is that gonna help you remember?
这样能让你记起来吗？
Is this gonna help you remember?
是的。
Yeah.
挺有意思的。
It's interesting.
你是在引导我回忆。
You're prompting me.
Do
Do
现在想起来了吗？
know now?
你
Do you
现在想起来了吗？
know now?
对。
Right.
是的。
I'm Yep.
在给你提示呢。
Prompting
下一个。
Next one.
好的。
Alright.
这是下一个。
Here's the next one.
这个周末我碰见了莎拉。
I ran into Sarah this weekend.
她是我楼下的邻居。
She's my neighbor downstairs.
就是那只狗总叫个不停的那位。
The one whose dog is always barking.
哦，对，想起来了。
Oh, right.
你之前提过她。
I remember you mentioning her.
你跟她说过狗的事了吗？
Did you say anything about the dog situation?
对。
Right.
是的
Yeah.
我又说了，就是那只狗总叫的那户人家。
And again, I did it again with, I said, the one whose dog is always barking.
我的意思是，我本可以说，就是那只狗总叫的那户人家。
I mean, I could say, oh, you know, the one whose dog is always barking.
对吧？
Right?
对啊
Mhmm.
你其实可以就这么直接说‘是的’。
So you can play with that a Yeah.
稍微
Little
你没必要加那个问号。
You don't have to add that question mark.
不是。
No.
这是母语者经常会做的事。
That is something that native speakers will do.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Exactly.
你会经常听到这种说法。
You'll hear that.
接下来说一件事，今天我在健身房碰到了一个叫安德鲁的人。
So next one, I ran into this guy Andrew at the gym today.
我们大学时曾经住同一个宿舍。
We actually used to live in the same dorm in college.
而这次我没问这个问题，因为
And here I'm not asking the question because
你这只是在告诉我他是谁。
we You're just telling me who it is.
对吧？
Right?
更准确地说，是这样。
It's more Yeah.
我觉得原因可能是——哦，抱歉。
And the reason for that seems to me to be oh, sorry.
我打断你了。
I cut you off.
你好像有话要说。
You had something to say.
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
我只是说，哎，这挺有意思的。
It's I just say, oh, that's funny.
你们以前是朋友吗？
Were you guys friends?
是的。
Yeah.
抱歉。
Sorry.
我觉得我没问你记不记得他，是因为我们不一定上的是同一所大学。
And I think the reason that I didn't ask you the question of do you do you remember him is because we didn't necessarily go to college together.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
你和我。
You and me.
没错。
Exactly.
对。
Yeah.
我们以前确实常在一起。
We used to let right.
所以听起来，咱们没上过同一所大学，或者至少在大学时并不认识。
So it sounds like we didn't go to college together or we didn't know each other in college at least.
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
Exactly.
我只是想给你提供一些背景信息。
So I'm just simply giving you context.
我并不是因为你听到这些背景，才问你记不记得他。
I'm not asking if you remember because of the context I'm giving you in a way.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
所以你得想清楚自己这么做的目的是什么。
So you have to think about your purpose here.
比如，你希望对方知道多少？
Like, how much Mhmm.
你有必要让这个人知道多少？
Do you need this person to know?
对方能知道多少？
How much could they know?
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
没错。
Exactly.
好的。
Okay.
我们来做个角色扮演吧，米歇尔。
Let's roll this in a role play, Michelle.
咱们用角色扮演来演示一下。
Roll it out on a role play.
太棒了。
Love it.
我们接下来做什么？
What are we doing?
现在我们正和另一个朋友艾玛一起吃早午餐。
So here we are having brunch with another friend named Emma.
我们高中时也是一起的，但另一个朋友没和我们同校。
So we also went to high school together, but our other friend did not.
接下来你来讲个故事。
And you're gonna tell a story.
好。
Okay.
Emma算是比较外圈的那个。
So Emma's the one who's kind of on the outside.
对吧？
Right?
稍微有点吧？
A little bit?
好。
Okay.
上周我在超市碰到了帕特里克。
I ran into Patrick at the grocery store last week.
你还记得他吗，米歇尔？
Remember him, Michelle?
他跟我们是同一所高中的。
He went to high school with us.
哦，想起来了。
Oh, yeah.
我怎么可能忘得了？
How could I forget?
艾玛，帕特里克那时候特别帅，人也特别温柔。
Emma, Patrick was super cute and really sweet.
班上所有女生都喜欢他。
All the girls had a crush on him.
那他现在怎么样？
So how was he?
他还是那么好的一个人，过得也特别好。
He still seems like a great guy and he's doing really well.
他后来娶了珍妮，就是他高中时的初恋，现在有三个孩子。
He actually married Janine, his high school sweetheart, and they have three kids.
天哪。
Wow.
时间过得真快。
Time flies.
是啊。
Yeah.
那前面提到的上下文在哪呢？
So where was the context given?
这里的线索到底是什么？
What was the context clue here?
你刚才说，你是在问我，有意思的是，这个角色扮演里明明都加了问号。
So you said so you're asking me, and it's interesting because written in this role play, are question marks.
你说的是‘记得他吗，米歇尔？’
It's a you said, remember him, Michelle?
我碰见帕特里克了，所以我们有我们的帕特里克。
I ran into Patrick, so we have our Patrick.
对。
Mhmm.
然后你说，记得他吗，米歇尔？
And then you said, remember him, Michelle?
你不确定我是不是还记得。
And you're not sure if I will.
所以你说他跟我们是同校的？
So you said he went to high school with us?
是的。
Yeah.
因为我和你有共同的经历，所以我们都知道，所以我用问句提醒你一下，再把艾玛也带进来。
Because you and I have that common experience, so we both know So I'm prompting you with a bit of a question mark, and then I'm pulling Emma in.
是的。
Yeah.
不是。
No.
艾玛没和我们上同一所高中，但她还是得知道一下，了解帕特里克是谁对她有帮助。
Emma didn't go to high school with us, but she still needs to kinda know it would add value for her if she knew who Patrick was.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
没错。
Exactly.
所以，你刚才说，艾玛，帕特里克特别帅，人也特别温柔。
So, yeah, you said Emma, Patrick was super cute and really sweet.
那时候所有女生都喜欢他。
All the girls had a crush on him.
对。
Mhmm.
是的
Yeah.
这样Emma就能想到一个她认识的人，就是当年所有女生都喜欢的那类男生，她就能在心里勾勒出这样的形象。
So and and then that way Emma can think about someone she knew who all the girls had a crush on, and she can bring that archetype into her mind.
对。
Yes.
没错。
Right.
是的
Yeah.
这挺有意思的。
That's funny.
是的
Yeah.
确实如此。
That's true.
是的
Yeah.
对
Mhmm.
可以拍这张照片。
Could take this picture.
这样挺好。
This is good.
那还有别的吗，米歇尔？
So what else, Michelle?
关于这个角色扮演，还有什么想说的吗？
Anything else we wanna say about this role play?
对
Yeah.
我的意思是，你刚才解释得特别好，大家都不会觉得被冷落了。
I mean, I just think we you did a really good job here of, you know, explaining, you know, nobody feels left out.
每个人都融入了对话中。
Everybody feels connected to the conversation.
我很喜欢你说的那部分，关于Emma可以在心里构建出这样的形象。
And I really like what you said about then I can Emma can build that archetype in her head.
对。
Mhmm.
想想看，有没有谁以前就是这样的人。
So remember somebody who had who was like that.
你知道的，每所学校都有这样的人。
You know, every school has that.
对吧？
Right?
每个学校都少不了这样的人。
There's always school.
所以你能想起来，哦，就是这样，然后谁知道呢？
So you can remember, oh, this is and then who knows?
这可能会引出一个关于她暗恋过的人的故事，没错。
That might lead into a story about someone she had a crush on and Yes.
是的。
Yeah.
谁说得准呢。
You never know.
还能轻松连接到很多其他话题。
Just can bridge to so many different things too.
对。
Yeah.
你给的信息越多，别人就越能参与进来，抓住你说的内容，产生共鸣。
The more context you give people, the more they can participate and grab onto what you're saying and add connection moments.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Yes.
我太喜欢了。
I love it.
真的很棒。
Really good.
如果你们想听另一集特别有用的节目，推荐第2577集，主题是‘can’和‘can’t’的区别。
So if you guys wanna listen to another very useful episode, check out episode twenty five seventy seven, which was can versus can't.
三个发音小贴士。
Three pronunciation tips.
对。
Yes.
至于收获，我觉得这点对建立连接特别重要。
And for takeaway, mean, I think this is really important for connection.
我们已经讲过原因了。
We've already talked about why.
别让别人干等着。
Don't leave people hanging.
别让他们坐在那儿，完全被晾在一边，你却跟别人聊起他们，比如约翰、迈克尔。
Don't let them sit sit at that table completely disconnected while you just kind of chat with someone else about this person, you know, John, Michael.
约翰是谁啊？
Who is John?
迈克尔又是谁？
Who's Michael?
我们为什么要关心这些？
Why should we care?
对吧？
Right?
尽量让每个人都感受到被包含进来，这是很重要的。
Everyone should feel included to some extent as much as you can.
对吧？
Right?
没错。
Exactly.
好的。
All right.
今天能聊这个，我真的特别高兴。
Well, I'm so glad we talked about this today.
这个话题真的很有意思。
This is really interesting.
我觉得咱们现在做的这些，能让听众们真正感受到被包容、被连接，这肯定会带来很多积极的影响。
And I feel like we're, you know, really setting our listeners up to make everybody feel included, connected, and that's just gonna really bring positive things.
对，这就是成功，对吧？
Yep, that's success right there, right?
在我们 All Ears English 的定义里，建立联系就是成功。
Connection is success as we define it here on All Ears English.
好的，讲得真棒，Michelle。
All right, good stuff, Michelle.
祝你接下来的一天过得愉快。
You have a good rest of your day.
好的。
All right.
你也是，再见。
All right, you too.
再见，琳达。
Bye, Lindsay.
再见，各位。
Bye, guys.
再见。
Bye.
感谢收听《All Ears English》。
Thanks for listening to All Ears English.
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Would you like to know your English level?
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Take our two minute quiz.
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Go to allearsenglish.com forward slash fluency score.
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See you next time.
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