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这里是《全耳英语》播客，第2681期。
This is an All Ears English Podcast episode twenty six eighty one.
自我觉察是关键。
Self awareness is key.
用英语表达你的兴奋。
Acknowledge your excitement in English.
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你是不是觉得英语学习卡住了？
Are you feeling stuck with your English?
我们会教你如何通过关注连接而非完美，变得无所畏惧、流利自如。你的美国主持人林赛·麦克马洪，英语冒险家，和米歇尔·卡普兰，纽约电台女孩，从美国科罗拉多和纽约市为你带来节目。
We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection perfection with your American hosts, Lindsay McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.
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你有没有什么爱好，让你特别兴奋，跟朋友聊天时忍不住一直说个不停？
Do you have anything like a hobby that you get super excited about and find yourself going on and on about it when you talk with your friends?
今天，我们来学学怎么承认自己可能让他们觉得无聊，从而更好地建立联系。
Today, learn how to acknowledge that you might be boring them for better connection.
好的想法需要有力的表达。
Strong ideas deserve strong delivery.
如果你的英语准确但犹豫不决，你可能在不知不觉中低估了自己。
If your English is accurate but hesitant, you may be underselling yourself without even realizing it.
流利度决定了你是被理解还是被认真对待。
Fluency is the difference between being understood and being taken seriously.
我们免费的2分钟流利度测试能让你看到自己真实的英语水平。
Our free two minute fluency quiz shows you your real English level.
看看你是B1、B2还是C1。
Find out if it's b one, b two, or c one.
而且，测试还会根据你的水平，告诉你下一步该怎么做。
Plus, the quiz shows you exactly what to do next based on your level.
现在就上 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 做测试吧。
Take the quiz now at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
再说一遍，去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。
One more time, go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
嘿，Lindsay。
Hey, Lindsay.
你好吗？
How are you?
我很好，Michelle。
I'm good, Michelle.
今天很高兴能和你一起录节目。
Glad to be on the mic with you today.
你那边怎么样？
How's it going on your end?
对。
Yeah.
这边一切都很好。
Everything's good over here.
我也很高兴能来录制。
Happy to be recording as well.
对。
Yeah.
当然。
Absolutely.
所以，Michelle，今天我们聊的是对某件事特别兴奋的话题。
So, Michelle, today we're talking about getting really excited about something.
这真的很棒，因为这是人之常情，而且当人们对某件事特别兴奋时，这种特质其实是我很欣赏的。
And that's totally cool that it's so human and it's actually a quality that I really admire in people when they're super excited about something.
但问题是，他们往往会一直聊这件事。
But what happens is they tend to talk about it a lot.
是的。
Yes.
然后其他人可能会觉得特别无聊。
And then other people might get really bored.
你最近有没有什么让你特别兴奋、停不下来一直聊的事情？
Is there anything that you recently were excited about and couldn't stop talking about?
我觉得这件事主要是丹和我嫂子比较感兴趣。
So I think for it's more for Dan and actually my sister-in-law.
她们俩都是听了我的推荐才用了这款健康类App。
They're both using she recommended this health app.
好的。
Sure.
他现在确实在用，而且他们特别喜欢聊这个，还会解释为什么觉得它好。
That he is now using it, and they love to talk about it and explain why it's good.
我是说，其实她才是那个更爱滔滔不绝聊这个话题的人。
I mean, I I actually she's more the one that's gonna talk about it a lot.
明白了。
Okay.
好的。
Okay.
但她就是，这确实很有意思，尤其是如果你对健康和营养这类话题感兴趣的话。
But she because she's she's just like, it's it's I mean, it is very interesting, especially if you're interested in health and nutrition and things like that.
对。
Yeah.
当然。
Sure.
所以是的。
So yeah.
但他们俩都特别兴奋。
But they're both super excited about it.
嗯。
Mhmm.
对。
Yeah.
我小时候，我爸就有点这样。
My dad was kinda like this growing up.
哪怕他对科技不太懂，他也会对最新的技术产品特别兴奋。
He would get really excited about the latest tech things even though he wasn't very techy.
所以那时候他老爱聊一些东西，比如九十年代刚兴起的互联网什么的，虽然他也未必完全搞明白，但就是整天挂在嘴边说。
And so he would kinda be talking about maybe, I don't know, just even just the Internet or something back in the nineties or little things, but he wouldn't really understand them completely, but he would talk about them all the time.
他就是那种特别激动的状态。
So he'd be so excited.
挺可爱的。
It's kinda cute.
哎呀。
Aw.
不过有时候也会让人想吐。
But it can be nauseating too.
是吧？
Right?
比如说，如果你
Like, if you
确实是这样。
It's true.
看到别人这么有热情，还挺有意思的。
It's, like, fun to see somebody's passion.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得，如果你对某件事这么兴奋，一直挂在嘴边，那这件事应该是你觉得对方也会感兴趣的那种。
I mean, I think you should if you're gonna be so excited about something that you're talking about it all the time, it should be something that you think the other person may be interested in
这就是今天的关键点。
as That's kind of the key the key piece today.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
我们得意识到，他们是不是真的想听我这么频繁地讲这件事？
We have to have that awareness of do they actually want to be hearing how much I'm talking about this thing?
米歇尔，为什么这很重要？
Michelle, why is this important?
你觉得这对建立联系有什么作用？
What do you think for connection?
天哪。
Oh gosh.
因为如果你只是不停地说，你知道，如果你要讲，比如会计，你
Because if you're just gonna go on and on about, you know, if you if you're gonna talk about, like, accounting, you
知道，一个
know, a
你在工作中用的新会计软件，然后你要分享给你的朋友，而你的朋友是个老师，
new accounting software you're using at work and you're gonna share it with your friend who is a who is like a a teacher,
比如一个
like a
英语老师。
English teacher.
那肯定不行。
Not gonna work.
你知道，这样只会让他们听得昏昏欲睡。
You know, it's just kind of gonna make them glaze over.
对吧？
Right?
我们得有这样的意识，嗯。
We have to have that awareness of Mhmm.
知道人们对什么感兴趣。
What people will be interested in.
但是，我的意思是，当一个人对某件事特别兴奋，脸上发光的时候，那真的很可爱，而且这种热情是会传染的。
But, I mean, it can be really endearing when somebody is super excited about something and their face lights up, and it can be contagious.
我的意思是，这就是我们去参加会议的原因。
I mean, this is why we go to conferences.
对。
Yeah.
因为那真的很让人耳目一新。
Because it's so refreshing.
我去播客大会的时候总是特别开心，因为大家都特别投入地聊技术。
When I go to the podcast conference, it's always really fun because people get into the real tech.
其实我对技术那方面也不是特别着迷。
I'm not even that into the techy side.
我们就是买几个麦克风，插上就开始录节目了。
We just buy microphones and we plug them in and we we start the show.
对吧？
Right?
但有些人真的特别钻研技术，比如均衡器什么的。
But, like, some people really get into the techy side of the equalizers and this and that.
不过看到有人对某件事这么有热情，还是挺有意思的。
And but it's fun to see that level of passion around something.
你知道吗？
You know?
生活有时候就是挺难的。
Life is just life is hard sometimes.
对吧？
Right?
所以能有一个自己特别热爱的东西，真的挺好的。
And so it's cool to have something you love so much.
是的。
Yeah.
但我觉得你刚才说的，Michelle，就是说要把它保持在合适的圈子里，对吧。
But make sure you keep the I think what you're saying here, Michelle, is keep it to the right circles in a way.
对。
Yes.
没错。
Exactly.
这体现了一定的文化意识水平。
That shows a certain level of, you know, culture of awareness.
对。
Yeah.
社会意识。
Social awareness.
什么都有对应的会议。
There's a conference for everything.
你任何稀奇古怪的兴趣爱好，都有对应的会议。
Every weird niche interest you have, there is a conference for it.
所以大家去看看吧。
So check that out, guys.
但是Michelle，如果我们犯了错，发现哎呀，我在跟这位老师聊这个新会计软件。
But Michelle, what happens if we make the mistake and we realize, oops, I'm talking to this teacher about this new accounting software.
这就对不上了。
It's a mismatch.
你说呢？
What, you know?
也不一定，对。
It doesn't yeah.
我的意思是，不一定非得是错配，也可能只是你话太多了。
I mean, it doesn't necessarily we're talking about like, it it could be a mismatch, but it could also just be kind of a, you know you're talking a lot.
对吧？
Right?
你懂的。
You're you know?
所以真的可能是两种情况之一。
So it it really it really could be either one of those.
不过今天我们要聊的是，对。
So but today we're gonna talk about yeah.
你怎么能既表达你对某件事很兴奋，又为说得太多而道歉呢？
How can you say that you're excited about something and you're sorry for talking about it so much?
就是说，你太兴奋了。
That's that's So you know you're overly excited.
你一直在说某个话题。
You're talking about something a lot.
而且这也有助于你判断是该继续说下去，还是该换个话题。
And it also this is useful for helping you tell if you should keep going or if you should change the topic.
对。
Yeah.
我的意思是，当你意识到自己说得太多时，第一条规则就是少说点。
I mean, the first rule of when you realize you're talking too much is talk less.
别再说了，就像
Stop talking as
那样。
much.
对。
Yeah.
不过也许我们可以用一些过渡性的话，来从对方那里获取信号。
But maybe there's a bridging phrase where we can get signals from the person.
对吧？
Right?
因为也许他们对此感兴趣。
Because maybe they are interested in it.
也许那位老师确实感兴趣。
Maybe that teacher is interested in Sure.
转到会计方面。
Moving into accounting.
谁知道呢？
Who knows?
或者他们就是喜欢搞技术，或者对数字比较感兴趣。
Or they're just techy or some or into numbers.
所以今天我们要教你的这些表达，其实起到一个桥梁作用，算是稍微确认一下：这样行吗？
So these phrases we're gonna teach you today are kind of that bridging they're a bit a bit of a check a check-in of is this okay?
对吧？
Right?
或者我可能正要转换话题，但我想再讲一个故事之类的。
Or maybe I'm about to transition, but I'm going to tell you one more story or something.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yep.
没错。
Exactly.
这就是我们今天要分享的内容。
So that's what we're going to be sharing today.
所以大家，无论你在哪里收听《All Ears English》，一定要点击关注按钮，这样就不会错过我们的任何内容。
So guys, make sure you hit the follow button wherever you're listening to All Ears English so that you never miss anything from us.
我们每周五天都在这里。
We are here five days a week.
是的。
Yes.
如果你在YouTube上，记得去看看我们的频道。
And if you're on YouTube, check out our YouTube channel.
对吧？
Right?
如果你更喜欢在镜头前看我们，那也是学英语的另一种方式。
If you prefer to watch us here on the camera, that's another way to learn English.
你可以看到我们的表情。
You can see our our expressions.
也许你想要那种完整的体验。
Maybe you want that full experience.
那就去YouTube，点击订阅吧。
Go ahead to YouTube and hit subscribe on YouTube.
好的，Michelle。
Okay, Michelle.
对。
Yeah.
你说吧。
Go ahead.
但我也想特别提一下，如果你今天去YouTube看我们，你会发现我和Lindsay穿的是同色系的衣服。
But I also wanna say something special is that if you go watch us on YouTube today, you will see that Lindsay and I are matching.
对。
Yeah.
而且不是故意的。
Not even on purpose.
我们今天撞衫了。
We matched today.
都是蓝色。
Same color blue.
我们就是都特别喜欢蓝色。
We just seem to love the color blue.
对。
Yeah.
今天确实有点特别。
Something special there today.
是啊，今天确实发生了一些事。
Something, yeah, something happened today.
所以我挺惊讶这种事不常发生。
So so I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often.
我知道。
I know.
挺好的。
It's good.
对。
Yeah.
好了。
Alright.
那好吧。
So alright.
那你能说什么呢，Lindsay？
So what can you say, Lindsay?
第一件事是什么？
What's the first thing?
好的。
Alright.
第一件事就是说对不起。
So the first thing is sorry.
我知道我一直在东拉西扯。
I know I'm rambling.
但至少这表现出我们之前谈到的自我意识，这对建立联系非常关键。
At So least this is showing that self awareness that we talked about before, which is a huge key for connection.
很难和一个不太有自我意识的人建立联系。
It's hard to connect with someone that's really not very self aware.
是的。
Yes.
你知道吗？
You know?
对。
Yeah.
所以听起来是这样的。
So here's what it sounds like.
总之，我去了这家健身房，因为我朋友推荐了它，抱歉，我知道我又跑题了。
So anyway, I started at this gym because my friend told me about it and sorry, I know I'm rambling.
所以在这里，我实际上是在一句话说到一半时打断了自己。
So here I'm actually cutting myself off mid sentence.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
我这是在跟你确认一下。
And I'm checking in with you.
对。
Yeah.
所以，我觉得这是件好事。
So, I mean, that's that's a good thing.
抱歉，我聊这个聊得太多了。
Or sorry I'm talking about this so much.
好吗？
Okay?
嗯。
Mhmm.
所以那个遛狗服务，就像我说的，真的改变了我的生活。
So the dog walking service, like I said, has literally changed my life.
抱歉，我聊这个聊得太多了。
Sorry I'm talking about this so much.
对。
Yeah.
而且，这就是一种可靠性。
And and this is a reliability.
说实话，我现在有孩子了，所以情况有点不一样。
I mean, honestly, so I now have a kid, so it's a little bit different.
但我想说，有时候如果人们有孩子，然后他们跟没有孩子的朋友在一起，总是聊孩子，对另一方来说真的很难受。
But I could say that sometimes if people have kids and then they're hanging out with their friend who doesn't have kids and they talk about their kids all the time, it can be really hard for the other side.
对吧？
Right?
是的，没错。
Like Yeah.
或者甚至狗也可能。
Or even dogs maybe.
我可能聊我的狗聊得太多了。
I probably talk about my dog too much.
我可能对开菲尔也是这样。
I probably do this with kefir.
对。
Yeah.
我们都有点这样，但得知道哪些话题容易聊个不停。
We're all guilty of this in some way, but we have to know the topics that really can can happen a lot.
对。
Yeah.
有时候，比如上周我和一个朋友出去，你知道，我们俩的孩子是朋友，但我们是以妈妈的身份出去的，我们玩得很开心，但我们也说好了，不能一直聊孩子。
And sometimes when I, like, just the other week I went out with a friend and you know, both, our kids are friends we, but we went out just as moms and we had a great time and we, but we said, okay, we can't, like, we were both, like, okay.
我们不想整晚都聊孩子。
We don't wanna talk about our kids the whole time.
你懂吧？
You know?
对，就是这样。
This is Yeah.
所以你们还是会互相提醒一下。
So it's a you'll still kinda stop each other.
比如，好吧。
Like, okay.
我们可以再聊他们一分钟，或者约会的时候也一样。
We could talk about them for one more minute or when you're on a date too.
对，就是这样。
Like, with Right.
跟丹出去的时候。
About going out with Dan.
好的。
Okay.
我们不应该一直聊他们。
We shouldn't talk about them the whole time.
当然啦。
But Of course.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
不。
No.
而且这些短语在那里也完全适用。
And and these phrases could apply there too, for sure.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
这些真的很好。
These are really good.
那好吧。
So alright.
遛狗服务。
Dog walking service.
那下一个，我一直在跟你唠叨这个。
So the next one, I'm talking your ear off about this.
我知道。
I know.
我很有自知之明吧。
So much self awareness there.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
我们真的在唠叨个不停吗？
Are we really talking someone's ear off?
不会，他们的耳朵不会掉下来，但感觉就像要掉了一样。
No, their ears not going to fall off, but it feels like it will.
对。
Right.
是的。
Yeah.
所以这是个常用表达。
So that's a common expression.
还记得我之前说的那家新咖啡馆吗？
So remember what I was saying about that new cafe?
好吧。
Well, okay.
我一直在跟你唠叨这个。
I'm talking your ear off about this.
我知道。
I know.
所以我的问题是，接下来会发生什么？
So my question here is like, what happens next?
所以这样做的目的，其实就是承认我有自知之明，知道自己正在这么做。
So so the purpose of this is sort of acknowledging I have that self awareness that I'm doing this.
我要等对方允许我继续讲下去吗？
Am I gonna wait for permission to keep going?
等对方说“不”吗？
That the person's gonna say, no.
不。
No.
我想听你讲。
I wanna hear about it.
我要给对方一个机会转到别的话题吗？其实“接下来会发生什么”才是我的问题。
Am I gonna give the person a chance to pivot to another like, what what happens next is kinda my question.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
这个问题问得好。
That's a great question.
休息之后，我们会稍微聊聊一些更鼓励人的表达方式。
So after the break, we are going to talk a little about expressions that, you know, are, you know, more encouraging.
不过，确实，这是个好问题。
But it I mean, yeah, that is a good question.
我是说，如果你说‘我一直在跟你唠叨这个，我知道’，
I mean, if you say, I'm talking your ear off about this, I know.
然后对方就……对，就是这样。
And they do you just Right.
对。
Yeah.
我们就像，
What are we like,
你知道，接下来会发生什么？
you know, what happens?
我觉得你可以选择，如果你觉得不太确定，就可以开始慢慢收尾了。
Either I think you can either start if you if you feel like you're not sure, you can kinda start to wrap it up.
对。
Mhmm.
对吧？
Right?
就像说，你先把话说完，然后试着转移话题。
Just say, like, you know, finish your thought and then maybe try and move on.
我会这么说。
That's what I would say.
除非你特别热情，那就继续聊下去。
Unless you kinda get this enthusiastic, let's keep going.
你觉得呢？
What do
对。
you Yeah.
我觉得你可能是对的。
Think you're probably right.
我觉得你可能是对的。
I think you're probably right.
这就是一种觉察。
It's it's the awareness.
光是能说出这一点，你就已经领先很多了，对吧？
Just by saying this, you're miles ahead, right?
因为很多人虽然聊得很深，但他们根本没有意识到自己陷得那么深。
Because a lot of people that get really, really deep into topics don't have that awareness that they are that deep.
他们可能根本接收不到那些暗示，对吧？
And they not just may not get the cues or something, Right?
所以，嗯。
And so Mhmm.
这已经远远领先了。
This is way ahead of the game.
光是能意识到这一点，就已经很棒了。
Already just acknowledging, hey.
我知道这可能不是你最擅长的部分。
I know this is maybe not your thing.
不过，米歇尔，你觉得道歉这件事怎么样？
But, Michelle, what do you think about apologizing?
对吧？
Right?
我的意思是，我们是不是
I mean, should we
应该道歉？
be apologetic?
这样道歉行吗？毕竟我们现在确实是在道歉。
Is it okay to be because we're kind of apologizing here.
抱歉。
Sorry.
抱歉。
Sorry.
对。
Right.
我觉得有时候道歉是可以的，但你不希望别人觉得你总是把“对不起”挂在嘴边。
I mean, I I I think it's okay sometimes, but I don't think you wanna be known as the person who is always saying, sorry.
我在说这个。
I'm talking about this.
抱歉。
Sorry.
我在说这个。
I'm talking about this.
不要因为你是谁或者你对什么感到兴奋而道歉。
Like, don't apologize for who you are or what you're excited about.
但我觉得，如果你在谈话中说了很多关于某件事的话，说这样的话是很自然的。
I mean but I do think that, you know, it is natural in conversation to say something like this if you're talking a lot about something.
你怎么看？
What do you think?
对。
Yeah.
我觉得挺自然的。
I think it's pretty natural.
我想这就是我们教你们时用的开场方式。
I think that's how we might open as we taught you guys.
对。
Yeah.
我们教你的三个短语里有两个是以“抱歉”开头的，你可以换一种说法。
Two out of the three phrases that we taught you do start with a sorry, and you could change that.
如果你想更正式一点，可以说“我道歉”。
You could say, I apologize if you want to be more formal.
不过确实，这本身也算是一种道歉的方式。
But yeah, think it's kind of nor it is kind of an apology in itself.
但你说得对，Michelle。
But I agree with you, Michelle.
你不想成为那种为自己的怪癖或独特之处道歉的人，因为那正是人们喜欢一个人的地方。
You don't want to be that person that's apologizing for your weirdness, your uniqueness, because that's what people love about people too.
对吧？
Right?
就像我们说过关于我们孩子的一件事，我们希望确保我们的孩子有热爱的东西。
Like one thing that we've said about our kid, we want to make sure our kid loves something.
比如，他们有一些真正喜欢、真正热衷的兴趣爱好。
Like it has some kind of interests that they really love, that they're passionate about.
我觉得那是生活中很重要的一部分，你觉得呢？
I think that's an important part of life, don't you think?
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
当然。
Definitely.
对。
Yeah.
抱歉。
Sorry.
请继续。
Go go ahead.
不。
No.
不。
No.
我觉得，嗯，是的。
I think I I yeah.
我觉得这很棒。
I think it's great.
我觉得有某种热情是很好的。
I think it's it's great to have some sort of passion.
所以能和别人分享这份热情，意义重大。
So to be able to share that with others is huge.
对。
Yeah.
而且现实是，如果你和人们在一起，他们根本不想听你兴奋的那些奇怪的事情，那他们可能不是好的聊天对象或好朋友，他们也不了解你。
And the reality is if you're hanging out with people and they don't wanna hear at all about these weird things that you're excited about, like maybe they're not great conversation partners or great friends, and they don't see you.
你真的很喜欢怪物卡车，或者，我不知道，比如你喜欢地图。
You you're really into monster trucks or like, I don't know, like whatever it is you're into maps.
对。
Yeah.
这里也有另一面。
There's there's a side of it there too.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
确实。
Definitely.
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今天就到 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 去测一下吧。
Take it today at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
网址是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。
That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.
好的。
Okay.
好，Michelle。
Alright, Michelle.
那另一边是什么呢？
Then what's the other side?
我们来聊聊这个。
Let's talk about that.
比如说，你想鼓励别人。
So let's say you wanna be encouraging.
你想表达，听到朋友分享某件事，你很高兴。
You you wanna share that you're happy to hear from your friend about something.
那我们来说说你可以说些什么。
So let's talk about some things you can say.
你可以说，不，我很喜欢听这个。
So you could say something like, no, I love hearing about this.
对。
Yes.
或者一点也不。
Or not at all.
这太有意思了。
This is so interesting.
继续说。
Keep going.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Mhmm.
对。
Yeah.
或者这个有点冒险，但如果你觉得自己性格比较爱讽刺，你可以说，哦，别担心。
Or this one is a little bit of a risky one, but this is a if you feel like your personality is a little bit more sarcastic, you could say something like, oh, don't worry about it.
我就是要让你听我讲关于某某的故事。
I'm just gonna make you listen to my stories about blank.
好。
Okay.
所以，哦，别担心。
So, oh, don't worry about it.
我就是要让你听我讲关于我的健身计划的故事。
I'm just gonna make you listen to my stories about my workout plan.
这个，我是说，这个真的很具体。
Now this is, I mean, this is really very specific.
这就像是对你最亲密的朋友说的。
This is like for your closest friend.
对。
Yeah.
他们就是不行。
They're just no.
你在开玩笑吧。
You're kidding.
不过这只是我想加进去的一个小玩笑。
But it's just a fun thing I wanted to add in to make a little joke.
不。
No.
那也是个不错的话题。
That and that's another good topic idea.
你知道，人们跑马拉松，把工作之外的全部生活都用来准备这场马拉松。
You know, people run marathons and they dedicate their entire outside of work lives to preparing for this marathon.
这也是一个人们会非常投入、能聊很久的话题。
And that's another topic people could get really into and talk about for Yeah.
一个长长的“对”。
A long Yeah.
好的。
Okay.
米歇尔，我们来举几个例子看看。
Michelle, let's do some examples and see.
把今天学到的内容都串起来。
Let's put all this together that we've been learning today.
行吗？
K?
好。
Yeah.
我们要做几个不同的角色扮演。
We're gonna do a few different role plays.
那我们就开始吧。
So here we go.
第一个场景里，你是我的朋友，你正在跟我聊你那个新的备餐计划。
In this first one, you are my friend, and you were talking to me all about your new food prep plan.
好的。
Okay.
不错。
Cool.
行。
Alright.
总之呢，我一袋红薯就能吃一整周。
So anyway, I'm able to use a bag of sweet potatoes for the whole week.
哦，抱歉。
Oh, sorry.
我知道我话有点多。
I know I'm rambling.
哦，Lindsay，一点都不会。
Oh, Lindsay, not at all.
这太有意思了。
This is so interesting.
我一直想试试备餐。
I've always wanted to try food prepping.
这也是个热门话题。
That's a big hot topic too.
这个不错。
That's a good one.
我们是把所有角色扮演都过一遍，还是回去复习一下？
Let's should we go through all the role play or should we go through go back and review?
我觉得我们现在一个一个过吧。
I guess let's I guess let's go through each one now.
所以，对。
So Yeah.
那就开始吧。
Let's do it.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
所以你说，总之，你在跟我聊你的备餐。
So you said so anyway, so you're talking to me about, you know, your meal prepping.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
你可能会听到备餐。
You you might hear meal prepping.
你可能会听到食物准备。
You might hear food prepping.
对。
Yeah.
备餐。
Food prep.
所以你说，反正，我一袋红薯能吃一整个星期。
So you said, anyway, I'm able to use a bag of sweet potatoes for the whole week.
然后你说，抱歉。
And then you said, sorry.
我知道我有点跑题了。
I know I'm rambling.
对。
Yeah.
所以我有点意识到自己跑题了。
So I kind of catch myself there.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
然后你说，哦，这不是问题。
And then you so you're saying, oh, it's not a problem.
你说，一点也不。
You said, not at all.
这太有意思了。
This is so interesting.
那“一点也不”是什么意思？
And not at all means what?
一点也不，
Not at all,
就是说，别道歉。
like Don't be sorry.
就是说，不用觉得抱歉。
Like, not being sorry about.
或者说，你根本没有在啰嗦，你知道，就是没关系的。
Or you're not rambling at all is, you know, that it's it's okay.
给你许可。
Giving you permission.
对。
Exactly.
然后我又补充了一句，让你知道我真的感兴趣。
And then I added on to show you that I'm really am interested.
比如，哦，我一直想试试备餐。
Like, oh, I've always wanted to try food prepping.
是的。
Yes.
好。
Okay.
我们再试一个。
Let's do another here.
你是我姐姐，跟我聊最新的艺术项目。
You are my sister talking to me about the latest art project.
好的。
Okay.
好的。
Okay.
我们开始吧。
Here we go.
我真的很想试试丙烯颜料，我特别兴奋。
So I'm really trying to use acrylics, which I'm so excited about.
抱歉。
Sorry.
我一直在说这个。
I'm talking about this so much.
哦，别担心。
Oh, don't worry about it.
我就让你听听我度假的故事。
I'm just gonna make you listen to my stories about my vacation.
成交。
Deal.
对。
Right.
所以，是的，这对姐妹来说很好。
So, yeah, this is good for sisters.
对吧？
Right?
嗯。
Mhmm.
嗯。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yeah.
和你有特殊关系的人，所以，我的意思是，比如，那是什么呢？好吧。
Someone you have a special relationship with and so, I mean, like, what is the so okay.
那，首先，我说我在讲我的画，然后我说了抱歉。
Let's well, first of all, I said, I'm talking about my painting, and then I said, sorry.
我讲得太多了。
I'm talking about this so much.
对。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yep.
是的。
Yep.
那就是道歉。
That's the apology.
然后我接受了，我说，哦，别担心。
And then I accepted it, and I said, oh, don't worry.
我就让你听我讲我的前任，或者随便什么，我的假期故事，我的马拉松训练计划之类的。
I'm just gonna make you listen to my ex, like, whatever it is, to my stories about my vacation, my marathon training plan or whatever it is.
好的。
Okay.
那我们喜欢什么呢？
And what do what do we like?
我们到底想表达什么？
What are we getting at here?
我觉得有点反驳，有点讽刺吧。
There's a little bit of pushback, little sarcasm, I guess.
对。
Yeah.
对吧？
Right?
或者你怎么看，米歇尔？
Or what do you think, Michelle?
是的。
Yeah.
我也这么觉得。
I think so too.
我觉得这挺讽刺的。
I think it's just I think it's pretty sarcastic.
就像，哦，也许这有点冷幽默，所以我就回你一句同样冷的话，你知道的，这样还挺好笑的。
It's like, oh, me maybe this is kind of dry, and so I'm just gonna hit you back with something else dry and, you know, so it's 's just kinda funny.
我觉得这带点被动攻击的味道，一点点吧。
It's got like a hint of passive aggressiveness, I guess, a little bit.
对。
Yeah.
但都是闹着玩的。
But it's like all in good fun.
你不会对别人认真说这种话。
Like, you wouldn't say this to someone seriously.
不会。
No.
对。
No.
对。
No.
对。
No.
那可真是一个失去朋友的好办法。
That would that'd be a really great way to lose a friend.
是的。
Yeah.
因为联系是自愿的。
Because connection is voluntary.
没有人必须坐在那里和你聊天。
No one is required to sit there and talk with you.
对吧？
Right?
我的意思是，没错。
I mean Exactly.
好。
Okay.
最后一个。
Last one.
我们是偶遇后一起喝咖啡的熟人。
We are acquaintances getting coffee because we just ran into each other.
我跟你讲我正在研究做咖啡这件事。
And I'm telling you about the coffee making that I'm getting into.
这又是一个有意思的奇怪爱好。
That's another interesting weird hobby.
对吧？
Right?
那就开始吧。
So here we go.
对。
Yeah.
所以我用的是非常新鲜的咖啡豆。
So I use really fresh beans.
我对它们特别挑剔。
I'm really picky about them.
我一直在跟你唠叨这个。
I'm talking your ear off about this.
我知道。
I know.
哎呀。
Uh-oh.
不。
No.
我很喜欢听这个。
I love hearing about this.
我自己也是个咖啡爱好者。
I'm a coffee lover myself.
不错。
Nice.
好的。
Alright.
所以，嗯……
So I've Mhmm.
所以，我可能会继续聊这个话题，但希望再聊一轮之后，我能把话题转回给你。
So maybe I would continue there, but then I would hopefully, after another turn, I would turn it back to you.
那你喜欢什么样的咖啡？
So what kind of coffee do you like?
对吧？
Right?
因为你说过你是个咖啡爱好者。
Because you you said you're a coffee lover.
所以我想回到你这边，听听你对咖啡的看法。
So I wanna come back to you and understand your take on coffee.
对。
Yeah.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Yeah.
我的意思是，如果你对别人要说的话不感兴趣，我觉得你就得听着。
And I mean, if you aren't interested in what the other person has to say, I I mean, I feel like you just have to listen.
你就
You just
听着。
have listen.
你怎么看？
What do you think?
对。
Yeah.
那下次也许你就别接受他们的咖啡邀请就行了。
And then maybe you just don't accept their invite for coffee next time.
我也不知道。
I don't know.
对。
Yeah.
如果某人对某件事特别兴奋，我是说，比如他们跟你说，抱歉。
I I if somebody's really excited about something I mean, like, if they say to you, sorry.
我讲这个讲得太多了。
I'm talking about this so much.
我的意思是，你不需要特别夸张地说，哦，我很喜欢听这个。
I mean, you don't need to go over the top and say, oh, I love hearing about this.
但你可以说，哦，别担心。
But you could say, oh, don't worry about it.
比如，你还是可以用这些话，只是不再补充什么。
Like, you could still use these and just not add anything.
而且，你知道，他们可能会开始察觉到。
And, you know, they they might start to pick up on it.
但同时，你知道，我们这里说的是人与人之间的联系。
But at the same time, you know, like, we're talking about connection here.
如果你——我只是觉得到了这个阶段，保持开放和倾听总是好的。
If you I just think at this point, it's a good it's just good to always stay open and to listen.
我是说，对。
I mean Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
你总不能说，哦，我们换个话题聊吧。
You can't really say, oh, let's talk about this instead.
对吧？
Right?
你是这个意思吗？
Is what you're saying?
对。
Yeah.
是的，没错。
Like, yeah.
你说得对。
You're right.
我不想再聊这个了。
I don't wanna talk about this anymore.
你不能那样，我们不会那么做的。
You can't like, we're not gonna do that.
就是
Like
你真的不能那样做。
You can't really do that.
更重要的是，这是不是一个人行为上的一个模式，每次你们见面，他们都在谈论自己？
It's more about, is this a pattern in someone's behavior that every time you meet, they're talking about themselves?
对吧？
Right?
因为那基本上就是他们在做的事情。
Because because that's essentially what they're doing.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
你在谈论你的爱好，但话题是不是全都围绕着他们？
You're talking about your hobby, but is it all focused on them?
那也许这个人并不是你想花时间相处的人，对吧？
Then maybe that's not the person you want to spend time with necessarily, right?
没错。
Exactly.
但如果只是这一次，他们刚去了那个会议，对自己的麦克风什么的特别兴奋，那也没关系，你知道，这算是一种模式吗？
But if it's just this one time they just went to this conference and they're so excited about their microphone or whatever, fine, you know, is it a path?
这才是关键。
Is the question.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
Right.
这说得很有道理。
That's a really good point.
所以，是的。
So, yeah.
我们要不要过一下最后一个
Is do we go through the last
比较难搞的那个？
rough one?
对。
Yeah.
确实。
It was.
所以我就说，哎呀，我是不是说得太多了。
So I just basically said, Oh, I'm talking your ear off about this.
我知道。
I know.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
然后你说，
And you said,
然后我说，没有。
Then I said, no.
我很喜欢听这个。
I love hearing about this.
我自己也是个咖啡爱好者。
I'm a coffee lover myself.
对。
Mhmm.
所以，是的。
So, yeah.
这些其实都是很常见的事情，对吧。
These are just I mean, are all pretty common things Yeah.
用来建立那种联系。
To and, you know, to build that connection.
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So, guys head on over.
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We also have episode two thousand six and fifty one that was find out how to use find in three different ways.
这个也不错。
Another good one.
不错。
Nice.
对。
Yeah.
这就是今天的重点。
That's the takeaway for today.
自我意识很重要。
Self awareness is huge.
我觉得对某件事充满热情是很好的。
I think it's great to be excited about something.
如果大家都没有什么奇怪的爱好，那生活该多无聊啊，你说呢？
How boring would life be if we didn't have any weird interests, you know?
在对的人面前、合适的时机，分享这些完全没问题，但能意识到自己一直在聊这个话题，这是一种很重要的社交技巧。
And around the right person at the right time, totally cool to share it, but showing that you're aware you're talking about that a lot is a big connection skill.
好的？
K?
当然。
Definitely.
好的。
Okay.
好的。
Okay.
嗯，今天聊到这个我很高兴。
Well, I'm glad we talked about this today.
各位，谢谢你们的收听。
And guys, thank you for listening.
好的。
Alright.
回头聊，米歇尔。
Talk soon, Michelle.
保重。
Take care.
好的。
Alright.
再见。
Bye.
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