AEE 2696：讨厌作业？如何用英语沟通

这里是All Ears English播客，第2696集，标题是“讨厌作业？

This is an All Ears English podcast, episode 2696, "Hate homework?

如何用英语聊这个话题。”

How to connect about it in English."

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你小时候作业多吗？

Did you have a lot of homework growing up?

你觉得学校应该取消作业吗？

Do you think schools should get rid of homework?

在今天的节目里，我们会分享我们的看法，以及一些可以用来聊这个有争议话题的短语。

On today's episode, we share our opinions and phrases you can use to connect about this controversial topic.

你有没有遇到过这种情况？

Has this ever happened to you?

你话说到一半，突然发现自己语速慢了下来。

You're mid-sentence and you hear yourself slow down.

你开始简化表达。

You simplify.

你避开那个你真正想用的词。

You avoid the word you actually want.

这种时刻在会议、面试和日常对话中不断累积。

That moment adds up in meetings, interviews, and everyday conversations.

它让你感到沉重，甚至觉得孤立。

It weighs on you and makes you feel isolated.

建立真正的联系就变得更难了。

It becomes harder to make real connections.

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Our free two-minute fluency quiz helps you identify what interrupts your flow and your connections, and how to fix it.

你会得到你的英语水平等级，B1、B2或C1，然后就知道接下来该怎么学了。

You'll get your English level, B1, B2, or C1, and you'll figure out where to go from here.

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That's allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E.

你好，Michelle。

Hello, Michelle.

这个美好的早晨，你怎么样？

How are you this fine morning?

我挺好的，Aubrey。

I'm doing well, Aubrey.

Aubrey，你小时候作业多吗？

Aubrey, did you have a lot of homework when you were a kid?

不算太多。

Not too much.

我有个特别清晰的记忆，我们有一本很厚的拼写和书写练习册，我当时特别感激老师允许我提前做后面的内容，因为我不想就那么闲着坐着。

I have this really clear memory that we had this thick book for spelling and handwriting, and I was so grateful that the teacher let me work ahead when I was finished with anything else, because I didn't want to just be sitting there idle.

那样会很无聊。

It would be very boring.

所以我会把那本练习册拿出来提前做，我记得很多同学都得带回家当作业做，而我总是超前很多，根本不用带回家，我觉得这真是个聪明的办法。

So I would pull that out and work ahead, and I remember a lot of students having to take that home and do it as homework, and I was always so far ahead that I didn't have to, and I thought that was a really smart way.

即使那时候我还很小，我就记得自己在想，这个老师真聪明，基本上就是给我——

Even as a very young person, I remember thinking that was smart of this teacher to basically give me-

……一个机会，如果我把其他事情提前做完，就可以在学校里把作业做了。

... a chance to do the homework at school if I finished other things early.

哇。

Wow.

但我不记得带很多作业回家。

But I don't remember taking a lot of homework home.

那你呢？

What about you?

对，我觉得我们作业挺多的。

Yeah, I think we had a lot of homework.

嗯，尤其是高中，我记得——

Well, especially in high school, I remember-

——那时候作业特别多。

... having a lot then.

但是——

But-

对，这肯定是小学的时候。

Yeah, this was elementary school, for sure

——小学，是的。

... elementary school, yes

——高中也是。

... in high school.

是的，作业很多。

Yes, there was a lot.

对。

Yes.

高中肯定是的。

In high school, for sure.

但小学可能没那么夸张。

But in elementary school, maybe not too much.

你觉得呢？

What do you think?

你觉得布置很多作业有必要吗？

Do you think that a lot of homework is necessary?

不觉得。这挺有意思的。

No. It's been interesting.

我孩子的小学就不布置很多作业。

My children's elementary school does not give a lot of homework.

他们要求学生们每天晚上至少阅读20分钟，而且他们确实有选择。

They request that students read at least 20 minutes every evening, and they do have options.

如果家长想要作业，或者希望孩子做作业，他们有很多可以补充的内容，但这些都不是强制性的。

There are quite a few things they can do to supplement if parents want homework, if parents want children doing homework, but none of it is mandatory.

所以他们算是兼顾了两方面：既满足了不希望孩子做作业的家长，也满足了希望孩子做作业的家长，这些作业可以作为补充学习。

So they're sort of hitting both, people who don't want their kids to have to do any homework, or parents who want it for them, which can be supplemental learning.

但我很少强迫我的孩子去做。

But I rarely make my kids do it.

我会说：“出去玩吧。

I'm like, "Go out and play.

你在学校待了一整天了。”

You've been at school all day long."

他们完成20分钟的阅读，然后我很少让他们再做更多。

They do the 20 minutes of reading, and then I rarely make them do any more.

是的，这挺有意思的。

Yeah, it's interesting.

我儿子刚上完一年级，他的老师，我很喜欢她的做法。

So my son just finished first grade, and his teacher, I like what she did.

她给了一个作业菜单，就是整个星期的，她发回家，上面有各种不同的任务，还有阅读，每天至少读15分钟，你可以勾选你想做的。

She had a homework menu, so it was just for the whole week, and she would just send it home, and it has a variety of different things, and also reading is on there, reading at least 15 minutes a day, and you can check off what you want to do.

或者你可以什么都不做，但我觉得那样可能会不太受欢迎。

Or you can do none of it, but I do think that that would be frowned upon.

我确实觉得有种感觉是，"你应该尽量多做一点"，但有时候我儿子不想做，而知道不用强迫他，这挺好的。

I do think that there was this feeling of, "You should try and do as much as you can," but sometimes my son didn't want to do it, and it was nice to know, okay, well, I don't have to force him.

他读很多书。

He reads a lot.

他做了很多——

He does so much-

……还有，在外面玩，我都不知道。

... and exactly, playing outside, that I don't know.

所以……

So...

对，你不想让他们在漫长的一天学校生活后感到太内疚，如果他们有点疲惫，那他们就不必做作业了。

Yeah, you don't want to give them too much guilt if they're sort of burned out after a long day at school, and then they don't have to do it.

不过，我们也有过这样的作业菜单，我记得是从一年级到三年级，我真的很喜欢。

But yeah, we had a homework menu like that, I think it was first through third grade, which I really loved.

我喜欢那些选项。

I loved the options.

就像，从这三个活动中选一个来做，对吧？

It's like, choose one of these three activities to do, right?

而且它还能针对不同的技能进行差异化。

And it's also differentiating for different skills.

有些更动手，有些更偏数学，有些更偏语文。

Some of them would be more hands-on or more math-related, some were more ELA.

所以我也很喜欢这一点，给孩子一点选择的自由。

So I loved that as well, to give kids freedom of choice that way a little bit.

是的。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

所以今天我们聊一个有意思的话题。

So today we're talking about an interesting idea.

问题是，如果没有作业会怎么样？

So the question is, what if there was no homework?

如果学校说：“好，我们以后不布置作业了”，会怎么样？

What if the school said, "Okay, we're not doing homework anymore"?

我们想到这个话题，是因为NPR上有一篇很有意思的文章，作者是Arielle Gilreath，文章日期是2026年4月28日，标题是《学校应该取消作业吗？》

And we got this idea because there was a really interesting article on NPR by someone named Arielle Gilreath, and this article was from April 28th, 2026, and it's called "Should schools get rid of homework?

有些教育工作者说应该取消。

Some educators are saying yes."

再说一次，这篇文章来自npr.org。

And again, this is from npr.org.

所以，我今天真的很想聊聊这个话题。

So yeah, I really wanted to just talk about this today.

我们会稍微聊聊文章里说了什么，但主要还是谈谈我们自己的看法，也会给你们一些讨论作业的方法。

So we're going to talk about, a little bit, what the article says, but we're really going to talk about our own opinions and give you some ways to talk about homework as well.

这样你们就能看看是否同意我们的观点，这个话题会很有意思。

So you can see if you agree with us, and this is going to be really interesting.

不过首先，我们想分享一些投票结果。

But first, we wanted to share some results of a poll.

对。

Yes.

这周，参与投票的听众数量创了纪录，问题是：你喜欢听八卦吗？

This week, record numbers of listeners responding to this poll, which was, do you like to hear gossip?

我挺喜欢看到大家愿意表达自己的意见。

And I kind of loved that, that people wanted their opinion to be heard.

我觉得双方都有很强烈的看法。

I feel like there are strong opinions on both sides.

压倒性多数选了“是”，占了73%。

Yes was the overwhelming majority at 73%.

然后就是“不”，占27%。

And just no, 27%.

但挺有意思的。

But it's interesting.

我觉得每个来参与投票的人都对“是”或“不”有很强烈的感觉，对吧？

I feel like everyone who came and answered that poll felt really strongly yes or no, right?

确实。

For sure.

所以，我们这里有些爱八卦的人，或者喜欢听八卦的人。

So, we have some gossipers here, or people who like to hear it.

所以，各位，非常有意思。

So very interesting, guys.

所以，各位，我们最后还会再做一个投票，这是一个特别的投票，我们会公布结果。

So, guys, we are actually going to have another poll for you at the end, and this is one of those special polls where we will announce the results.

所以一定要等到最后听结果。

So definitely wait until the end to hear that.

这是在Spotify上。

That's on Spotify.

还有，记得点关注，这样就不会错过我们的任何一期节目。

And also, make sure you hit the follow button so you don't miss any of our episodes.

是的，各位。

Yes, guys.

一定要点关注。

Be sure to hit follow.

而且，天哪，我觉得这个话题真的特别能引起共鸣，因为——

And man, I just feel like this is such a great connection topic because-

……

...

我经常和其他家长、朋友聊这个，很少有人会无动于衷。

I talk about this often with other parents, with friends, and very rarely is someone apathetic.

通常大家都有很强烈的看法，所以这往往能带来最有趣的讨论。

Usually, people have pretty strong opinions, so that's often what makes for the most interesting discussions.

我想知道别人怎么想，为什么这么想。

I want to know what others think and why.

因为很多人，特别是如果你有孩子，但即使从你自己的经历来看，大学、高中——

Because a lot of people, especially if you have children, but even from your own experience, college, high school-

……教育，当你觉得作业有没有用的时候，每个人都有自己的看法，所以这真是个很好的话题。

... education, when you felt whether homework was helpful or not, everyone has opinions about this, so it makes for a great connection topic.

确实是的。

It definitely does.

所以，这篇文章真的讨论了路易斯安那州的一所学校，他们决定取消作业。

So, the article really discusses this school in Louisiana that decided to eliminate homework.

不再有作业了。

No more homework.

从小学低年级一直到高中，所有年级都这样。

And this was from lower elementary and all the way up to high school, so all the grades.

然后文章讲了人们对这件事的看法，大部分都是正面的。

And so it talks about what people felt about this, and it was mostly positive.

家长和学生都觉得挺好的，大部分都是正面反馈。

Both parents and students, it was mostly positive.

所以，这挺有意思的。

So, that was very interesting.

文章还提到，关于家庭作业的研究结果其实是相互矛盾的。

And it also talked about that there's research on homework and it's conflicting.

奥布里，有些研究是怎么说的？

What do some of the studies say, Aubrey?

有些研究显示，家庭作业的效果不大。

Some were showing that homework had little effect.

另一些则认为，做家庭作业能大大提升孩子的学习能力，尤其是数学方面。

Others felt like kids' academic abilities, especially in math, were greatly enhanced by having homework.

所以，这也挺有意思的。

So, this is interesting, too.

当研究和数据相互矛盾的时候，真的很难说该相信谁。

When research and studies sort of conflict, it's hard to know who to trust.

这篇文章还提到了人工智能——

And this article also touched on AI-

——这让作业的价值降低了，当然，孩子们可以用它来回答问题、帮忙写论文，所以有时候作业就变成了把答案写在纸上，而不是真正动脑思考，对吧？

... which has made homework less valuable, and of course, kids can use it to answer questions to help write essays, so sometimes it becomes more about just putting answers on a page rather than doing that mental work, right?

但我想分享的是，我女儿在大学里有一个有趣的经历，有些教授在帮助学生学会使用人工智能，而不是反对它，或者因为学生用人工智能做作业而惩罚他们。

But I wanted to share, my daughter in college has had an interesting experience where some professors are sort of helping students learn to use AI instead of fighting it and punishing them if they use AI to help with assignments.

相反，作业是：用人工智能来完成这个项目，尽量把它用到最好。

Instead, the assignment is, use AI to do this project, and make the best use of it you can.

我觉得这真的很聪明，因为学生们将来肯定会用到它——

Which I think is really smart, because students are going to be using it-

——所以不如教他们如何在工作中使用，如何在未来的职业生涯中使用。

... so they may as well teach them how to use it in the workforce, how to use it in their future career.

对，确实。

Yeah, definitely.

那么，你能最好地利用它的方式是什么？

So, what is the best way you can utilize it?

关于AI，要学的东西太多了。

There's so much to learn about AI.

所以，如果他们要用，不如好好用。

So, if they're going to use it, they might as well use it well.

没错。

Exactly.

不过，我们来聊聊我们自己的看法吧。

But, let's talk more about our own thoughts on this.

那么，Aubrey，你觉得取消作业有哪些好处？

So, what, Aubrey, do you think are some pros to eliminating homework?

我们之前聊过一些，

We've talked some about-

比如更多的空闲时间，孩子们能到户外活动。

... things like more free time, kids being outside.

你还有什么想法？

What else do you think?

所以，真正有意思的是，作业少了，孩子们就有机会拥有更多自由时间，去户外活动，和家人相处。

So, what's really interesting is having less homework can give kids a chance to have more free time, being outside, more family time.

但在我们这个时代，棘手的是，缺少作业是不是只是被屏幕时间取代了？

But in our day and age, what's tricky is, is that lack of homework just being replaced by screen time?

我觉得这正是父母们在抗争的，对吧？

I think that's what parents are fighting, right?

如果作业少了，我怎么能确保孩子们还是孩子，有创造性的机会去玩耍或创造呢？

If there's less homework, how can I make sure kids are being kids and having creative chances to play or create?

如果他们只是说，'哦，太好了，没作业，我要去玩屏幕了'，那也许对他们来说，有一大堆作业反而更好。

And if they're just like, "Oh, sweet, no homework, I'm going on screen," it would be better for them to have a mountain of homework, maybe.

不，你说得对。

No, that's a good point.

所以，那些不用做作业的时间应该被好好利用。

So those hours that you're not spending on homework should be used well.

对，理想情况下是这样。

Right, ideally.

你应该和家人在一起，应该到户外去，诸如此类的事情。

You should be spending time with your family, you should be outside, all sorts of things like that.

不过，是的，其他好处可能是压力更小，不会那么累。

But yeah, other pros could be that there's less stress and burnout.

我记得很多作业带来的压力，尤其是在高中。

I remember a lot of stress over homework, especially in high school.

而且，这也能创造一个更公平的学习环境。

And then also, it could create a fairer learning environment.

好，那接下来。

So, okay, here.

你小时候做作业有人帮忙吗？

Did you get help with your homework when you were a kid?

有一些。

Some.

我父母数学都不太好，所以我有点靠自己，我记得那挺让人沮丧的。

Neither of my parents were great with math, so I was a little bit on my own, which I remember being frustrating.

我记得以前拿微积分作业给爸妈看，他们就说，'抱歉。

I remember taking calculus homework to parents and they're like, "Sorry.

我们帮不了你。'

We can't help you."

那时候还没有互联网，没法去谷歌或者看YouTube视频来帮我，现在我的孩子们就经常这么用。

And at the time, there was no internet to Google YouTube videos to help me, which my kids use a lot now.

不过对，我有时候还是需要一些帮助的。

But yeah, I had some help when I needed it.

我有一个安静、光线充足的学习空间。

I had a quiet, well-lit space.

而且现在的学生，我在布朗克斯区教书的时候真的看到了这一点，很多学生会来找我，他们可能需要延期交作业，因为他们家里的条件不太好，对吧？

And students now, when I was teaching in the Bronx, I really saw this, that a lot of students would come to me, and they would need maybe extensions because they didn't have the best situation, right?

他们可能得不到家人的支持，或者一回到家就得全职照顾弟弟妹妹之类的。

They didn't maybe have support, or as soon as they got home, they were a full-time caretaker for siblings, for example.

或者说存在各种各样的问题，可能会影响他们像其他同学那样高质量地完成作业。

Or there just was all kinds of issues that could potentially prevent them from completing homework at the level other students could.

而且，不是每个人都有网络。

And also, not everyone has access to the internet.

所以，找人帮忙、看那些YouTube视频，对很多人来说可能不太现实。

So, it's getting help, watching those YouTube videos, that may not be possible for everybody.

而且，老师也没法监督作业完成的情况。

And also, the teachers aren't even able to supervise the homework that is done.

所以可能会有作弊，比如从别人那儿拿答案，或者用我们之前说的人工智能。

So there could be cheating, maybe someone's getting an answer from someone else, using AI like we talked about.

所以，从某种程度上说，如果这些情况都会发生，那布置作业还有什么意义呢？

So, in some ways, it's just kind of what's the point here if those things are going to happen.

但是，奥布里，缺点呢？

But what about cons, Aubrey?

你觉得完全取消作业有哪些负面影响？

What are some of the negatives of just eliminating homework, would you say?

我觉得在学校的时间里，学习安排得特别满，至少在美国是这样。

I feel like school hours really are crammed with learning, at least here in the States.

老师们确实努力让每一分钟都有价值，经常安排不同的课程和活动。

Teachers really do try to make every moment valuable, different lessons, different activities often.

所以，老师们在有限的时间里要做这么多事情，压力很大。

So, there is a lot of pressure on teachers to do all of this with limited time.

这样一来，事情就变得很棘手。

And so, this makes it really tricky.

而且，这样孩子们也得不到自主性的锻炼，对吧？

It also doesn't give kids practice in autonomy, right?

如果没有作业，他们就不需要学会安排时间，也不需要培养独立完成作业的自律性，而这其实非常重要。

If they have no homework, then they're not needing to learn to organize their time, that discipline to do this work on their own, which is really valuable.

如果他们总是被监督着，就学不到这些。

If they are constantly supervised, then they aren't learning that.

所以从某种程度上说，这不仅仅是作业本身的问题。

So in some ways, it's not all just about the actual homework.

更重要的是培养那种自律的能力和习惯。

It's also about building that muscle, that discipline.

所以，是的，这挺有意思的。

And so yeah, that's interesting.

这是个有趣的观点。

That's an interesting point.

而且，有些科目特别需要大量练习。

And also, some subjects especially require a lot of practice.

比如数学、拼写、词汇。

I mean, math, spelling, vocabulary.

所以，你的大脑需要的帮助比学校一天能提供的要多。

So, your brain just needs more help than what can be provided during the school day.

所以感觉就像——

So it feels like-

我想到了学习数学事实，那些乘法表。

I think about learning math facts, those multiplication tables.

哦。

Oh.

我觉得很少有学生能在学校就把这些都学会。

I think very few students are able to get all of that at school.

我们以前都是在家学的，做各种练习来试着——

We all were learning that at home, doing activities to try and-

我记得

I remember

……把那些都背下来。

... memorize all of that.

要是要求老师在学校里就把这些都教完，那也太难了，你觉得呢？

It would be difficult for teachers to be expected to get all of that done during the school day, don't you agree?

对，确实。

Yeah, definitely.

我记得小时候跟我妈坐在房间里，拿着闪卡背。

I remember sitting with flashcards in my room with my mom.

我们都干过这事儿。

We all did.

我还记得学乘法表那些东西。

And I also remember learning the multiplication tables and things like that.

但另一个缺点就是，优秀的学生可能会觉得挑战不够。

And the only thing is another con would be that advanced students might feel under-challenged.

他们在家可能需要更多的事情做。

They might need more to do at home.

所以就像我刚才说的，我觉得老师确实需要提供脚手架，为不同的孩子提供不同的资源，额外的内容不能只是机械的作业，而是对那些需要的学生或者觉得有价值的家长来说，真正有意义、有创造性的东西。

So it's sort of like I was saying, it's definitely necessary, I think, for teachers to provide scaffolding, to provide different resources for different kids, extra that doesn't just feel like busy work, but something that really feels valuable and creative for the students who need it, or for parents who really feel like it's valuable.

但也要让它更灵活一些，这样对于那些真的被作业压垮、放学后压力很大的学生来说——

But then to have it be a little more optional, so that for those who are really harmed by homework and are so stressed out after a school day-

……它就不是强制性的，对吧？

... that it wouldn't be mandatory, right?

你有没有遇到过这种情况，说着英语突然词就没了？

Do you ever start speaking English and suddenly the words disappear?

你停顿太多，犹豫不决。

You pause too much, you hesitate.

你知道自己想说什么，但就是当时说不出来，事后才想起来。

You know what you want to say, but only later, not in the moment when it matters.

这就是你流利度出问题的地方，而且这是可以解决的。

This is where your fluency is breaking down, and it's fixable.

所以我们推出了两分钟流利度测试。

That's why we created our two-minute fluency quiz.

它能立刻告诉你目前的英语水平，让你知道接下来该练什么。

It shows you your exact English level right now, so you know what to work on next.

你是B1、B2还是C1？

Are you B1, B2, or C1?

来测测看吧。

Find out.

现在就访问 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore，搞清楚你的英语水平，以及今年如何提升，从今天开始。

Go now to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore and get clarity on your English level and how you can improve this year, starting today.

再说一遍，访问 allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E。

One more time, go to allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E.

好，既然我们从这篇文章里了解了一些背景信息，那我们来聊聊怎么进行对话，对吧？

All right, now that we have some background info from this article, let's discuss how you can have conversations, right?

在家听节目的朋友们，我们希望你们能和朋友、同事聊这个话题。

Listeners at home, we want you to be able to talk about this with friends and coworkers.

这是个挺有意思的话题。

It's an interesting conversation.

是的，确实很有意思。

Yeah, it really is.

这是个很好的拉近距离的话题。

This is a good connection topic.

所以，你可以这样说，比如：“你小时候对家庭作业有什么感觉？”

So, you could say something like, "How did you feel about homework growing up?"

或者你甚至可以说，我记得我问过你，Aubrey，我说：“你小时候作业多吗？”

Or you could even say, I think I asked you, Aubrey, I said, "Did you have a lot of homework growing up?"

所以，这是一个非常好的开场问题。

So, this is a really good opening question.

我的意思是，"你有很多吗？"

I mean, "Did you have a lot?"

那是一个是或否的问题。

That's a yes or no question.

但另一个问题，"你感觉怎么样？"

But the other one, "How did you feel about it?"

那是个人化且开放式的。

That's personal and open-ended.

它给了对话中的另一个人机会，可以给出正面或负面的回答。

And it gives the other person in the conversation the opportunity to have a positive answer or a negative answer.

所以它有助于开启这种友好的辩论——

So it could help start this friendly debate-

……

...

这种辩论会一直持续下去，直到对话结束。

which goes pretty far until the conversation does.

我喜欢这一点的是，每个人都会有自己的看法——

And what I like about this is everyone will have something to say-

不管他们有没有孩子。

... whether they have kids or not.

因为很多对话——

Because a lot of the conversation-

……

...

我主要围绕的是我孩子的作业，但不是每个人都有孩子。

I have surrounds the homework of my children, but not everyone has kids.

所以这是一个很好的方式，可以和任何人开启这样的对话。

And so this is a great way to spark that conversation with anyone.

没错。

Exactly.

那么，这里有一些可能的回答。

So, here are some potential answers.

你可以说：“我从小到大都讨厌做作业。”

You could say, "I hated homework growing up.

它总是让我感到压力很大。”

It was always a source of stress."

或者，“我从来没觉得作业有什么问题。”

Or, "I never had issues with homework.

我很快就做完了。”

I got it done quickly."

有些人喜欢做作业。

Some people loved homework.

如果他们很用功，他们喜欢完成作业，觉得自己很成功。

If they were very studious, they loved to complete an assignment and feel like they were successful.

所以这个问题肯定会得到很多不同的答案。

So you'll definitely get a lot of different answers to this question.

对，没错。

Yep, exactly.

哦，对了，有个问题，Aubrey。

Oh, well, here's a question, Aubrey.

我大概知道答案，但你的孩子带作业回家时，你是让他们马上做完，然后这件事就划掉了吗？

I think I might know the answer, but when your kids would come home with homework, did you have them do it right away, and then it's done and off the list?

还是让他们先玩再做作业，或者让他们自己选？

Do you have them play first and then do homework, or do you let them choose?

我总是让他们先休息一下——

I always give them a break-

……30分钟到一小时。

... 30 minutes to an hour.

通常更接近一小时。

Usually, it's closer to an hour.

理想情况下，我希望他们能去外面玩。

Ideally, I would love for them to go outside and play.

我们家和学校之间有个小公园，所以几乎每天他们都骑车回家，在那个公园停下来，和那里的孩子玩，等他们到家，就准备好做作业了。

We have a little park between the school and our house, so almost every day, they're riding bikes home, they stop at that park, play with the kids at this park, and by the time they get home, then they're good to go.

但如果他们直接回家，我就会说：‘吃点零食，让大脑休息一下，做点别的事情，玩乐高或者做些有创意的事——’

But if they come straight home, then I'm like, "Have a snack, rest your brain, do a little something, play Legos or something creative-"

‘……然后大约一个小时后，他们可以开始读书或做其他事情。’

"... and then they could start read a book or do something after about an hour."

你呢？

What about you?

我不会让我儿子一回家就做作业。

I don't make my son do homework right away.

我是说，我也不确定。

I mean, I don't know.

他们上了一整天学，很累了。

They've had a long school day.

他们需要休息一下。

They need a break.

而且，我记得我小时候，家里有个不成文的规定，就是我要做作业，但我从来没觉得有人命令我：‘你必须在这个时间做作业。’

Also, I think I remember from growing up that it was just an unwritten rule in my house that I do my homework, but I didn't ever feel like I was being told, "You must do your homework at this time."

所以——

So-

你开始做的时候也没人盯着你。

No one was policing it when you started.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我挺喜欢他这样。

I kind of like that for him.

有时候我确实得说：“好吧，你还没做。”

Sometimes I do have to say, "Okay, you didn't do it."

“你应该做了。”

"You should do it."

该开始了。

Time to get started.

有时候我得催他，但不会他一回家就催。

Sometimes I have to push him, but I'm not going to push him right when he gets home.

但就我个人来说。

But just personally.

再问一个问题，你觉得作业是有帮助的还是浪费时间？

Another question, do you think homework is helpful or a waste of time?

这是个好问题，更具体，而且让对方必须选边站。

So that's a good question that's more specific, and it asks the other person to pick a side.

然后，当然，还有后续问题。

And then, of course, there's a follow-up.

你总是可以说，"哦，那为什么？"

You can always just say, "Oh, well, why?

"你为什么这么认为？"或者"你为什么觉得是浪费时间？"

Why do you think so," or, "Why do you think it's a waste of time?"

没错。

Exactly.

而且这个问题也可以问任何人，不管他们有没有孩子，就一般性地问。

And this also could be asked for anyone, whether they have kids or not, just sort of in general.

他们可以借鉴自己年轻时的经历。

They can draw from their own experiences from when they were younger.

或者你可以问：“如果学校取消家庭作业，会有什么变化？”

Or you could ask, "If schools eliminated homework, what would change?"

这挺有意思的。

This is interesting.

这有点假设性、理论性，可能会引发一场非常有趣的对话，对吧？

This is sort of more hypothetical, theoretical, which could be a really interesting conversation, right?

对，没错。

Yeah, exactly.

所以你可以说：“我觉得学生会更开心，”或者“我觉得考试成绩和整体能力会下降。”

So you could say something like, "I think students would be happier," or, "I think test scores and overall abilities would decrease."

不过我觉得我们应该进入角色扮演环节，然后——

I think, though, that we should jump into a role play and-

来吧。

Let's do it

……看看这在对话中听起来怎么样。

... see how this would sound in conversation.

你和我就是朋友在随便聊聊。

You and I are friends having a casual discussion.

我先开头吧。

I'll start us out.

那你小时候对作业感觉怎么样？

So how did you feel about homework growing up?

哦。

Ooh.

说实话，我特别讨厌作业。

Honestly, I hated it.

每天晚上都让我压力很大。

It stressed me out every evening.

你呢？

What about you?

其实我无所谓。

I didn't mind it, actually.

我会很快做完，然后就不管了。

I'd just get it done quickly and then forget about it.

那你觉得现在的学生作业比以前多还是少？

Well, do you think students have more or less homework than they used to?

我不确定，但可能少一些。

I'm not sure, but maybe less.

我也这么觉得，不过反正我觉得这也不重要。

I agree, but I'm not sure it matters anyway.

你怎么看？

What do you think?

你觉得作业是有帮助的，还是纯粹浪费时间？

Do you think it's helpful or just a waste of time?

我不确定。

I'm not sure.

我确实觉得这对额外练习有帮助。

I do think it's helpful for extra practice.

我不确定这能带来多大改变，而且说实话，如果学校取消作业，会有什么变化呢？

I'm not sure it makes a big difference, and let's be honest, if schools eliminated homework, what would change?

我觉得学生们肯定会更开心，但他们的技能可能会有所下降。

I think students would definitely be happier, but their skills might drop a bit.

是的，所以这个角色扮演很棒，能展示如何用这些问题进行一场非常有趣的对话。

Yeah, so this role play is amazing to show how you could use all of these questions to have a really interesting conversation about this.

对，没错。

Yeah, exactly.

我们在这里问了很多非常有帮助的问题。

We asked a lot of really helpful questions here.

所以你可以去听听那个。

So you can go through and listen to that.

再次强调，听这个角色扮演，想想你会怎么回答？

Again, listen to this role play, think what would you answer?

你会怎么回答这些问题呢？

How would you answer these questions?

另外，我们之前提到过会做一个特别的Spotify投票，现在投票来了。

And now we mentioned also that we were going to do a special Spotify poll, so here is the poll.

问题是：在你们国家，你觉得学生的作业比以前多还是少？

It is, in your country, do you think students have more or less homework than they used to?

你可以告诉我们更多或更少，我们会在未来的节目中公布结果。

And you can tell us more or less, and we will read the results on a future episode.

是的，我对结果非常好奇。

Yes, I'm really curious for the results there.

如果情况在变化，请告诉我们。

Let us know if this is changing.

在美国，情况似乎确实在变化，所以我很想知道世界各地的情况如何。

It does seem to be changing in the States, so I'm curious what this is like around the world.

另外，如果你错过了，可以看看2691期，往上翻一下就行，标题是《掌握过去虚拟语法的三个技巧》。

And then also if you missed it, check out 2691, you could just scroll up, Three Tips to Master Past Subjunctive Grammar.

这期语法节目真的很棒，如果错过了的话，一定要去听听看。

This was a really good grammar episode, so go check it out if you missed it.

完美。

Perfect.

好的。

All right.

嗯，聊这个话题真的很有意思。

Well, this was a lot of fun to talk about.

话题很棒。

Great topic.

是的。

Yes.

各位，我真的很想知道你们对这个话题的看法，所以请告诉我们，如果你们有任何后续问题，这也是我们未来节目可以继续讨论的话题。

And guys, I'm just curious to hear what you have to say about this, so let us know, and if you have any follow-up questions, this is a topic we could continue to talk about on a future episode.

所以请告诉我们你们关于作业的问题，我们会尽量解答。

So let us know your questions about homework and we'll try and cover them.