AEE 2701：我们都不？还是你也不？你会相信……谁都不！

这里是All Ears English播客，第2701集，Us Neither还是We Neither。

This is an All Ears English podcast, episode 2701, Us Neither or We Neither.

你会相信neither吗？

Would you believe neither?

欢迎收听All Ears English播客，下载量已超过两亿次。

Welcome to the All Ears English Podcast, downloaded more than 200 million times.

你是不是觉得英语学习卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

我们将向你展示如何通过关注交流而非完美，变得无所畏惧、流利自如，由你的美国主持人Aubrey Carter（雅思专家）和Lindsay McMahon（英语冒险家）从美国亚利桑那州和科罗拉多州为你带来。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection, with your American hosts, Aubrey Carter, the IELTS Wiz, and Lindsay McMahon, the English Adventurer, coming to you from Arizona and Colorado, USA.

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To get real-time transcripts right on your phone and create your personalized vocabulary list, try the All Ears English app for iOS and Android.

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你能用英语说“us neither”吗？

Can you say "us neither" in English?

那“we neither”呢？

What about "we neither"?

今天就来搞清楚，并学会如何就你们的共同点和共识进行交流。

Find out today and learn how to connect about what you have in common and what you agree about.

流利并不意味着说得完美。

Fluency doesn't mean speaking perfectly.

流利意味着轻松自如地说话，不带紧张，以建立联系的方式，不用翻译，不用反复琢磨。

It means speaking without tension, with ease, and in a way that will build connection, without translating, without second-guessing.

如果英语对你来说仍然很吃力，你需要的是如何进步的清晰指导，而不是更多的努力。

If English still feels heavy for you, you need clarity on how to get better, not more effort.

我们免费的“两分钟流利度测试”能帮你了解你的英语现在需要什么。

Our free two-minute fluency quiz helps you understand what your English needs right now.

另外，你还能知道你的英语水平。

Plus, you get your English level.

今天就去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 测试吧。

Take it today at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

网址是 allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E。

That's allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E.

你好，Lindsay。

Hello, Lindsay.

你好吗？

How are you?

嘿，Aubrey。

Hey, Aubrey.

最近怎么样？

How's it going?

一切都好吗？

How's everything?

非常好。

Excellent.

我很好奇，你和家人经常去露营吗？

I'm curious, do you and your family go camping often?

不，其实我们不去。

No, we don't, actually.

我们不去露营。

We don't go camping.

对，我们也不太去。

Yeah, we don't really either.

我小时候倒是去过。

I did growing up.

我以前经常和家人一起去，但在亚利桑那，我公婆在北部有个小木屋，所以如果我们去林子里，就住那儿。

I went a lot with my family, but here in Arizona, my in-laws have a little cabin up north, so if ever we're in the woods, we'll stay there.

就像是——

It's like-

所以你不用露营。

So you don't have to camp

……那种典型的林中小屋，就像所有——

... the typical cabin in the woods from every-

好的。

Okay

……所有恐怖片里都有的那种。

... horror movie ever.

哦，我知道。

Oh, I know.

所有恐怖片都是这么开头的。

That's how they all start.

是啊，我知道。

Yeah, I know.

不过这个挺有意思的。

But this is interesting.

你注意到我说的是“我们也不去”了吧。

Notice I said, "We don't either."

如果我说“我们也不”或者“我们也不去”，你会觉得奇怪吗？

Would it have sounded strange to you if I said, "We neither," or, "Us neither"?

如果你说“We neither”或者“Us neither”，听起来会真的很奇怪。

It would have sounded really strange if you said, "We neither," or, "Us neither."

我会说——

I would've said-

我也是。

Me too

……“什么？

... "What?

你在说什么？”

What are you saying?"

我知道。

I know.

我们在每周问答中收到了一个很好的问题，有人问，我应该说“Us neither”还是“We neither”？

We got a great question about this in our weekly Q&A, where someone asked, should I be saying, "Us neither," or, "We neither"?

这真的很有趣，因为从语法上讲，“us neither”是正确的。

And this is really interesting because technically, us neither is grammatically correct.

确实很有意思。

Really interesting.

但没人这么说，对吧？

But no one says it, right?

对。

No.

两种说法听起来都不自然。

Neither option sounds natural.

你真的听不到母语者在日常对话中这么说。

You really don't hear native speakers saying that in everyday conversation.

所以今天，我们要分享更好的说法，比如那个——

So today, we're going to share better options, like the one-

是的

Yes

……

...

我说的是，对吧？

I said, right?

我说的是，“我们也不。”

I said, "We don't either."

我们也不。

We don't either.

我可能也会说，“我们也不”，对吧？

I also might say, "Neither do we," right?

对。

Yep.

你会这么说吗？

Do you say that?

我们也不，对吧？

Neither do we, right?

我们也不，我们也不。

Neither do we, we don't either.

有几个选择。

There are a few options.

我们尽量避免，即使语法上正确，我们也不会说“我们也不”。

We really avoid, even if it's grammatically correct, we just don't say, "Us neither."

是的。

Yes.

就像你说的，这对建立联系很有帮助，因为你喜欢……

Like you said, this is going to be great for connection because you like to...

嗯，这适用于任何话题。

Well, this can apply to any topic.

其实不是关于……

It's not really about-

对

Yes

……话题本身，而是关于表达方式，知道如何表达你不同意、同意或与他人有共同点。

... the topic, but it's about the construction, knowing how to say whether you disagree or agree or share something in common with someone else.

没错。

Exactly.

我想是吧。

I guess.

哦，这可是个很重要的沟通技巧。

Oh, this is a huge connection skill.

你得能够——

You want to be able to-

表示同意。

... agree.

就像刚才那个对话，如果我问你关于露营的事，我希望能够说我们也去。

Like that conversation, if I'm asking you something about camping, I want to be able to say if we do too.

对。

Yes.

这确实有点难。

And this is tricky.

对。

Yes.

我完全能想象有人会说：“为什么我从来没听过‘we neither’或者‘us neither’？”

I could totally see someone being like, "Why have I never heard we neither or us neither?

其中一个错了吗？

Is one of them wrong?"

有时候，即使语法上是对的，人们也不会那么说。

Sometimes, even though it's grammatically correct, it's just not how people speak.

而且我在那个角色扮演里确实撒谎了。

And I did lie in that role play.

我确实会去露营。

I definitely do go camping.

今年夏天，我们打算试试……

And this summer, we're going to be trying...

这个视频十月发布，到时候我再告诉你结果怎么样。

This comes out in October, so I'll tell you how it went.

但这个夏天，我们打算带着三个月大的宝宝和我们的狗，一起在一个帐篷里露营。

But this summer, we're going to try to go camping with our three-month-old baby and our dog all in one tent.

那怎么行得通呢？

How is that going to work?

我也不知道。

I don't know.

我相信没问题的。

I'm sure it will be fine.

听起来像是成功的秘诀。

It sounds like a recipe for success.

你可能会说：“听起来糟透了。”

You're like, "It sounds horrible.

别这么做。”

Don't do it."

有点讽刺的意思。

A little bit of sarcasm.

祝你好运，Lindsay。

Good luck, Lindsay.

你应该知道，你会说——

You should know, you be like-

我带着新生儿去露营过，结果还不错。

I have gone camping with a new baby, and it was fine.

只是还不错，对吧？

Just fine, right?

只是还不错。

Just fine.

还行。

Fine.

好吧。

All right.

好吧，这个话题我们改天再聊，肯定会有机会的。

Well, we'll get into that another day, I'm sure.

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Guys, hit the follow button right now to make sure you get as much All Ears English as you need and want.

我们每周五天发布节目，这是和我们一起提升英语交流能力的好方法。

We come out with shows five days a week, so that's a great way to dial in your English for connection with us.

好吗？

Okay?

是的。

Yes.

无论你在哪里收听，都请点关注。

Hit follow wherever you listen.

当然。

Absolutely.

好的。

All right.

我们开始吧，因为这到底是什么意思？

Let's dive in here, because what does this mean?

当然，us neither的意思是，你和别人，也许你代表一群朋友、家人——

Of course, us neither means that you and other people, maybe you're speaking for a group of friends, family-

是的

Yes

……或者同事，都不做某件事。

... work colleagues, don't do something.

没错。

Exactly.

而且通常是在别人已经说了他们不做某事之后，用来表示同意的。

And it's usually used to agree with someone else who's already said they don't do it.

但我们要分享的是，怎么用更自然的方式来表达这个意思，因为这种说法在英语里其实不常用，至少在美国不常用。

But we're going to share how we can say this more naturally, since that's not really used commonly in English, not in the States anyway.

也许在英国会用到，但我在电视或播客里没听到过——

Maybe in the UK, but I don't hear it on TV or podcasts-

对

No

……也不。

... either.

就是不太常用。

It's just not common.

对，我从来没听过。

No. I never hear it.

所以——

So-

“Us neither”听起来很奇怪。

Us neither sounds so strange

……我们可以说什么呢……

... what can we say that's...

那今天至少给听众两个选择吧。

So let's give our listeners at least two options today.

第一个选择就是“we don't either”，就像我们在节目开头说的那样。

First option is we don't either, like we said at the top of the episode.

奥布里，我们什么时候该用这个？

When should we use this, Aubrey?

所以，当别人说了一件你也不做、不喜欢或不信的事情时，你就可以用这个。

So you use this after something that you also don't do, don't like, or don't believe.

比如，如果我说：“我和我伴侣现在都不去电影院了。”

So for example, if I said, "My partner and I don't go to the movies anymore."

哦，我们也不去了。

Oh, we don't either.

哦，那太糟糕了。

Oh, that's horrible.

不，我很喜欢去电影院。

No. I love going to the movies.

我知道。

I know.

去电影院。

Go to the movies.

去看电影。

Go to the movies.

或者我们不太喜欢吃辣的食物。

Or we don't really like spicy food.

我们也不喜欢。

We don't either.

再加上这个，“neither do we”，也很常用。

And let's throw in this, neither do we, which is also-

真的非常常见。

... really, really common.

对。

Yes.

所以意思是一样的。

So it means the same thing.

只是另一个可以互换、同义的表达方式。

It's just another chunk that's interchangeable, synonymous.

所以如果我说：“哦，我们很少熬夜到半夜。”

So if I said, "Oh, we rarely stay up past midnight."

哎呀，对。

Ugh, yeah.

我们也是。

Neither do we.

没错。

Exactly.

所以这只是一种对负面事情表示同意的方式，就是对方已经说过他们不做某事。

So it's just a way to agree about something negative, something someone has already said that they don't do.

我不知道我们后面会不会讲到这个，但关于发音，Aubrey。

I don't know if we may get to this later in the episode, but pronunciation, Aubrey.

我们这里有两个选项，对吧？

We have two options here, don't we?

要么，要么。

Either, either.

neither，neither。

Neither, neither.

而且这真的——

And it's really-

你怎么——

What do you-

……挺有意思的，至少美国人经常两种说法换着用。

... interesting, at least Americans often go back and forth.

我就是这样。

I do.

对。

Yes.

我两种都说。

I say both.

我可能会说“We don't either”，但也可能会说“Neither do I”，对吧？

I might say, "We don't either," but then I might say, "Neither do I." Right?

所以困惑——

So confusion-

所以没有绝对的对错。

So there's no right or wrong answer.

两种说法都是对的。

Both are correct.

当下觉得哪个顺口，就用哪个。

Whatever feels right in the moment, just go with it.

没错。

Exactly.

对。

Yes.

什么——

What-

你会听到人们来回切换着说。

You're going to hear people go back and forth.

那另一个选项是什么？

What's the other option?

好的。

All right.

这个更多是当你在谈论关于你自身的事情，而不是你做的事情的时候用的。

Now, this is more when you're talking about something about you rather than something you do.

好的。

Okay.

你可能会说，“我们也不是。”

You might say, "We're not either."

对吧？

So, right?

这是在谈论身份、性格、未来计划之类的事情之后用的。

This is after something about maybe identity, personality, future plans.

比如，如果我说，“我们不是夜猫子。”

So for example, if I say, "We're not late night people."

哦，我们也不是。

Oh, we're not either.

没错。

Exactly.

或者——

Or-

或者，我们今年不打算去旅行。

Or, we're not planning to travel this year.

我们也不去。

We're not either.

对。

Exactly.

是的。

Yes.

你也可以像刚才那样反过来用，说“我们也不是”。

And you can also flip this, just like the other one, and say, "Neither are we."

“哦，我们没打算去旅行。”

"Oh, we're not planning to travel."

“我们也是。”

"Neither are we."

对。

Yes.

喜欢这个。

Love that.

喜欢这个。

Love that.

真的很好。

Really good.

你有没有觉得说英语后特别累？

Have you ever felt exhausted after speaking English?

不是因为对话很难，而是因为你的大脑在超负荷运转，忙着翻译、检查语法、找词汇。

Not because the conversation was difficult, but because your brain was working overtime to translate, checking grammar, searching for vocabulary.

但真正的流利其实感觉更轻松。

But true fluency actually feels lighter.

你花在思考英语上的时间更少，更多的时间用来和人交流。

You spend less time thinking about English and more time connecting with people.

找出是什么阻碍了你达到你想要的那个水平。

Find out what's standing between you and that next level that you're looking for.

来做我们免费的流利度测试吧，只要两分钟。

Take our free two-minute fluency quiz.

访问 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

就是 allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E。

That's allearsenglish.com/F-L-U-E-N-C-Y-S-C-O-R-E.

好的，Aubrey，那当我们谈到第一人称，比如只有我自己的时候呢？

All right, Aubrey, so what about when we're talking about the first person, like it's just me.

那就是回应的时候。

That's responding.

所以在这种情况下，是的，我们不说“us neither”，但我们会说——

So in this case, yes, we don't say us neither, but we do say-

……“me either”或者“neither”，对吧？

... me either or neither, right?

所以这是一个常见的——

So this is a common-

……英语中的错误——

... mistake in English-

对

Yes

……说“me either”这个错误。

... to say me either.

你到处都能听到这种说法。

You'll hear it everywhere.

“Me either。”

Me either.

对，你会这么说。

Yeah, you do.

其实应该说 me neither。

It really should be me neither.

Me neither。

Me neither.

没错。

Exactly.

我经常听到母语者说 me either，但仔细想想，这在语法上说不通。

I hear native speakers say this all the time, me either, but if you think about it, it doesn't make sense grammatically.

确实说不通。

It doesn't really make sense.

你需要用否定形式。

You need the negative.

如果你要说——

If you're saying-

你需要用否定形式。

You need the negative

……

...

我也不，我也不。

I also don't, I don't either.

我也是。

Me neither.

那我们举几个例子吧？

Should we do some examples then?

好啊。

Sure.

你先来？

You want to start us out?

嘿，我还没准备好呢。

Hey, I'm not ready quite yet.

哦，我也是。

Oh, me neither.

而且——

And-

或者我不……对。

Or I don't ... Yeah.

请继续。

Go ahead.

我刚才想说，这个例子我可能不会用“neither”。

I was just going to say, this is one where I probably wouldn't say neither.

对我来说，可能是押韵——

For me, it might be the rhyming-

我也是。

Me neither

……的复数形式。

... es.

我一般都会说“me neither”。

I would always say me neither.

我觉得，对。

I think, yeah.

“Neither”是……

Neither is...

但你看，我刚才就说了“neither”。

But see there I said neither.

“Neither”也不算错。

Neither is incorrect.

这得看具体的语境。

It kind of depends on the chunk.

说“me neither”吧，总觉得哪里不对劲，听起来就是很别扭——

Saying me neither, just there's something not right, like the way that sounds just feels awkward-

听起来几乎像——

It almost sounds-

……有点装腔作势。

... pretentious

……但它在语法上是正确的。

... but it is grammatically correct.

也许它……

Maybe it-

……听起来有点装腔作势。

... sounds pretentious.

所以我会……

So I would-

两种发音都是正确的。

Both pronunciations are correct.

这大概更多是关于我们……

It was probably more about just what we're-

……习惯听到的。

... used to hearing.

完全同意。

Totally.

但我完全同意。

But I'm totally in agreement.

我也一样，不同意。

I would say me neither there.

那这个呢？

How about this?

我今晚不想出去。

I don't want to go out tonight.

我想待在家里。

I want to stay in.

我也是。

Me neither.

再说一遍——

And again-

好的

Okay

……

...

我大概不会说“我也是”，但这么说也没错。

I probably wouldn't say me neither, but it's not wrong.

这跟我的地方方言有关——

It's just about my regional dialect-

……就是我所习惯听到和说的。

... what I'm used to hearing and saying.

这挺有意思的，我补充了“我今晚不想出去，我想待在家里”，但你的“我也是”是在回应“我今晚不想出去”这句话。

And it's kind of interesting, I added on, "I don't want to go out tonight, I want to stay in," but your me neither is responding to, "I don't want to go out tonight."

哦。

Oh.

所以这挺有意思的。

So that's kind of interesting.

我们有时候确实会这样，对吧？

And we do that sometimes, right?

如果有人说他们不想做什么，他们可能还会加上他们想做的事，我们仍然可以说“我也是”。

If someone is saying something they don't want to do, they might even tack on something they do, and we could still say me neither.

而他们知道我们的意思。

And they know what we mean.

你是在回应核心观点。

You're responding to the core idea.

没错。

Exactly.

其实就是他们说的第一件事。

The first thing they said really.

好。

Good.

行。

All right.

奥布里，来角色扮演吧。

Role play time, Aubrey.

现在我们假装是朋友，在聊夏天的计划。

Here we're friends talking about upcoming summertime plans.

太好了。

Awesome.

好的。

All right.

那你们今年夏天打算去大旅行吗？

So, are you guys taking a big trip this summer?

没有，其实不去。

No, we're not actually.

现在机票太贵了。

Flights are just too expensive right now.

对，我们也不去。

Yeah, we're not either.

我们今年想省点钱。

We're trying to save money this year.

我们也是。

Same here.

我们也不太想去人挤人的机场。

We don't really want crowded airports either.

唉，我们也是。

Ugh, we don't either.

我们打算么去露营几天，要么就待在家附近。

We're either going camping for a few days or just staying close to home.

说实话，这听起来太完美了。

That honestly sounds perfect.

反正我们也不是那种喜欢去度假村的人。

We're not big resort people anyway.

我们也不是。

We're not either.

我也不想整个夏天都待在屋里工作。

I also don't want to spend the whole summer sitting inside working.

哦，我也是。

Oh, me neither.

我得出去透透气。

I need to get outside.

不错。

Nice.

对。

Yes.

那肯定不是我。

That's definitely not me.

我可是超级喜欢度假村的人。

I am a huge resort person.

哦，是吗？

Oh, you are?

我们去洛克波特的时候，总是住那种海边度假村。

We always, when we go to Rocky Point, we stay in like a beachside resort.

然后我们就不出门了。

And we do not leave.

吃饭就在度假村里的餐厅解决。

We go to the restaurant there.

真好笑。

That's so funny.

停车场外面就有个舞厅。

There's a dance club right outside the parking lot.

哪儿都不用去。

No need to go anywhere.

真好笑。

That's so funny.

我不是那种喜欢度假村的人。

I'm not a resort person.

我跟你正好相反。

I'm the opposite of you.

我不太喜欢那种。

I'm not a fan.

这倒是真的。

This is true for you.

但我两种都喜欢。

And I love both.

我也喜欢露营和徒步，但全包式度假村——

I love camping and hiking as well, but an all-inclusive resort-

……在那儿待一周——

... stay here a week-

……太棒了，算我一个。

... yes please, sign me up.

嗯，说实话，我觉得我好像从来没真正体验过那种完整的度假村生活。

Well, I guess, to be fair, I don't think I've ever really done a proper full resort situation before.

那可能说得通——

It might make sense-

哦

Oh

……如果你和家人一起，有小孩的话，那可能说得通。

... if you're with a family, if you have young kids, it might make sense.

你知道，就是——

You know, just-

问题就在这儿

That's the thing

……做这件事是有理由的。

... there are reasons to do it.

我觉得如果你跟——

I think you would change your tune if you went with-

……五个你认识的家庭，五对夫妻一起去，你会改变想法的。

... five families you were friends with, five couples-