AEE 2703：更有趣地表达你的兴趣

这里是All Ears English播客，第2703集，一个更有趣的表达你对某事感兴趣的方式。

This is an All Ears English podcast, episode 2703, A More Interesting Way to Say You're Interested.

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这一集有没有勾起你的好奇心？

Have we piqued your curiosity in this episode?

今天来听听，学一个关键短语，用英语表达你想多聊一点或者多了解一些东西。

Listen today to learn how to use one key phrase to show you want to talk more or know more about something in English.

嘿，Lindsay，你今天怎么样？

Hey, Lindsay, how are you today?

挺好的，Aubrey。

Good, Aubrey.

你怎么样？

How are you doing?

一切都好吗？

How's everything?

我特别好。

I am excellent.

今天很高兴能和你一起录节目。

Excited to record with you today.

好的。

All right.

那我们开始吧。

Let's do it.

我们直接进入正题吧。

Let's get into it.

Aubrey，我今天有个问题想问你。

Aubrey, so I have a question for you today.

好的。

All right.

你最近发现了什么让你特别好奇的事情？

What is something that you found out recently that piqued your curiosity?

哦，我看到一篇关于外貌歧视的文章。

Oh, I saw this article about lookism.

我之前从来没——

I had never-

啊

Ah

……以前从没见过这个词。

... seen that word before.

我当时特别感兴趣。

I was fascinated.

我和Lindsay还录了一期关于这个的节目。

And Lindsay and I recorded about that.

我们上周已经发布了，所以请看到最后，了解更多详情。

We posted this last week, so stay to the end for details.

我们会分享——

We'll share-

……这样如果你错过了那一期，可以去看看，因为真的特别有意思。

... so that if you missed that episode, you can go check it out, because it was super interesting.

是的，当然。

Yes, for sure.

对，我知道。

Yeah, I know.

今天早上我和一个朋友兼商业伙伴通了电话，他也是个播客主播，他给我展示了他用AI在生意上做的各种疯狂的事情。

I was on a call this morning with a friend/business contact who's also a podcaster, and he was showing me all the crazy ways that he's using AI in his business.

哦。

Ooh.

太疯狂了。

It's wild.

我猜那肯定引起了你的兴趣。

I'll bet that piqued your interest.

就是特别疯狂。

It's just wild.

确实勾起了我的好奇心。

That piqued my curiosity.

不过同时我也已经有点厌倦AI了。

Although I'm also kind of bored of AI already at the same time.

这个话题让我有点无聊。

The topic bores me a little bit.

你就像在说：“AI从来不会引起我的好奇心。”

You're like, "AI never piques my curiosity."

但是——

But-

我已经受够了。

I'm over it.

我已经受够了。

I'm over it.

我已经受够了。

I'm over it.

所以看起来——

So it seems like-

嗯，这一集——

Well, this episode-

……其实是受你在最近一集里说的话启发的，Lindsay。

... was actually inspired by something you said, Lindsay, in a recent episode.

你说过某件事引起了你的好奇心，我当时就想，"哇，这个说法真棒。"

You said something piqued your curiosity, and I was like, "Oh, such a great phrase."

所以我们今天就来聊聊这个——

So we're talking about that-

……今天。

... today.

有几个常见的搭配。

There are a few collocations.

我们会分享五种最常见的用法，就是使用这个有趣的动词pique的方式。

We're going to share the five most common ways that we say this, that we use this interesting verb, pique.

而且它的拼写可能和你想象的不一样，对吧？

And it's spelled differently than you might expect, right?

你见过——

You've seen the-

……P-E-A-K-E-D，peaked，表示达到顶峰的意思。

... P-E-A-K-E-D, peaked, for to be the height of something.

是的。

Yes.

这个拼写和那个不一样。

This is spelled differently than that.

我们先从拼写开始吧。

Let's just start off with the spelling.

这个词怎么拼？

How do we spell this word?

是P-I-Q-U-E。

It's P-I-Q-U-E.

所以这个……

So this-

……在英语里是非常少见的拼写。

... is a very uncommon spelling in English.

对。

Yes.

所以，如果你说“piqued my curiosity”，写的时候就是P-I-Q-U-E-D。

So yeah, if you say that piqued my curiosity, if you write this, you would write that P-I-Q-U-E-D.

对，所以这里是个动词，对吧？

Yeah, so a verb here, right?

级别很高。

Very high level.

这个，我可能会说它是C1级别的动词，你觉得呢？

This, I would probably call this a C1 level verb, wouldn't you say?

我们的听众在C1级别，但B2、B1的，你们也准备好了。

That our listeners at the C1 level, but B2, B1, you're ready for it, too.

所以今天只要听一听——

So just listen in today-

完全同意。

Absolutely

……然后试着用一用。

... and try it out.

所以——

So-

对，你可能只是说“我变得好奇了。”

Right, the different, you might be just saying this, "I became curious.

“这让我好奇。”

This made me curious."

然后——

And then-

……在更高水平的语言中，你就会说，哦，你学到了这个短语，“这引起了我的好奇心。”

... in the upper level language, then you're like, ooh, you learn this phrase, this piqued my curiosity.

是的，我同意。

And yeah, I agree.

对。

Yes.

它确实增加了趣味性。

It does add interest.

没错，就是增加了趣味性。

It adds interest, exactly.

那有哪些例子能说明“激发好奇心”呢？

So what are some examples of pique curiosity?

当我们激发自己的好奇心时，是的。

When we pique our curiosity, yes.

这是我们使用这个动词最常见的方式之一。

And this is one of the most common ways we use this verb.

比如，那部纪录片激发了我对古代文明的好奇心，对吧？

So for example, the documentary piqued my curiosity about ancient civilizations, right?

对。

Yes.

意思是它真的点燃了好奇心。

It means it really sparked a curiosity.

让你想了解更多。

It made you want to learn more.

“Sparked”这个词也很棒。

Sparked is another great word for that.

或者她的评论引起了我的好奇心，所以我去查了一下，对吧？

Or her comment piqued my curiosity, so I looked it up, right?

啊。

Ah.

所以，嗯，除了“spark”之外，其他精确的词不多，但“spark”很好。

So yeah, there aren't too many other, spark is great, but there aren't too many other precise words in this moment.

没错。

Exactly.

我想就是让我好奇吧。

Made me curious, I guess.

也许我们稍后可以聊聊其他选项，但就这样吧。

Maybe we'll talk a little bit about other options later, but yeah.

这就是为什么这个词很精准。

That's why this is a great precise word.

对，对吧？

Exactly, right?

这个动词很厉害。

This is an impressive verb.

它够常见，任何时候用都能被听懂，对吧？

It's common enough that anytime you use it, you'll be understood, right?

但又够少见，所以显得很厉害。

But it's uncommon enough that it's impressive.

所以是的。

So yeah.

所以挺有意思的，对。

So it's interesting, yeah.

但我们常用的另一个搭配是“激起兴趣”，对吧？

But another chunk we use is pique interest, right?

那个激起了——

That piqued-

……引起了我的兴趣。

... my interest.

这和“激发你的好奇心”是一个意思。

Which means the same as to pique your curiosity.

比如，那个工作坊让我对摄影产生了兴趣。

For example, the workshop piqued my interest in photography.

所以这更像是你对某个领域整体上感兴趣。

So it's more that you would be interested in something in general, a field.

你不一定是对摄影本身感到好奇。

You're not necessarily curious about photography.

它让你更想去做这件事，去了解它。

It makes you more interested in doing it, learning about it.

能讲清楚你是怎么入行的，这很好。

It's good to be able to tell your origin story of how you got into your-

是的

Yes

……专业领域。

... area of expertise.

我爸爸在大学时修了一门心理学课程，一门神经心理学课程，这激发了他对验光学的兴趣。

My dad, in college, took a psychology course, a neuropsychology course, that piqued his interest in optometry.

所以他们在神经心理学课程中研究眼睛和大脑，这正好激发了他的兴趣，所以他成了验光师。

So they were studying the eye in this neuropsychology course, and the brain, and that just piqued his interest, so he became an optometrist.

说得真好。

That's such a good point.

对，就像……

Right, so like-

人们多久会……

How often are people-

……问你，比如“你是怎么对这个领域产生兴趣的？”

... asking you, like, "How did you become interested in the field?"

当人们问起你的工作时，他们通常想知道是什么让你感兴趣的。

When they're asking about your job, they often want to know what interested you.

这句话很好，说“真正引起我兴趣的是什么”，然后分享——

This is a great phrase to say, what really piqued my interest, and then share-

对

Yes

——最初是什么激励你进入这一行的。

... whatever it was that first inspired you to get involved in that line of work.

没错。

Exactly.

而且那是一个建立连接的瞬间，对吧？

And that's a connection moment, right?

没错。

Exactly.

当我们解释自己是怎么走到今天这一步的时候，希望其中会有一些兴奋感，也有一些连接感，对吧？

When we're explaining how we ended up where we are, there's going to be some excitement there, hopefully, and some connection, right?

是的。

Yes.

或者说他的演讲引起了我的兴趣，所以我就报名了这门课，对吧？

Or his presentation piqued my interest, so I signed up for the course, right?

对。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

就是让你感兴趣，但还有更有趣的说法——

Just made you interested, but what a more interesting way-

……来表达这个意思。

... to say that.

这引起了我的兴趣。

This piqued my interest.

是的。

Yes.

或者我们还会说，某件事吊起了你的胃口，这个说法有两种用法——

Or another thing we say is for something to pique your appetite, and we use this both-

哦

Oh

字面意思和比喻意思都可以。

... literally and figuratively.

比如说——

So for example-

比如新鲜面包的香味勾起了我的食欲。

... maybe the smell of fresh bread piqued my appetite.

就是说让我觉得饿了。

That just means it made me feel hungry.

但我们也会——

But we also-

哦

Oh

用它的比喻义，对吧？

... use it figuratively, right?

你可以说，读了摘要之后，我对这本小说更感兴趣了。

You could say, reading the summary piqued my appetite for the novel.

所以是的，我们可以说我们对某样东西有胃口，去消费——

So yeah, we can say we have an appetite for something, to consume-

没错

Exactly

——某样东西。

... something.

一本小说，一部文学作品，对吧？

A novel, a piece of Literature, right?

这个比喻义和“激起我的兴趣”的意思更接近。

That figurative meaning is a lot closer to the meaning of piqued my interest.

激起你对某样东西的胃口，只是意味着你变得更感兴趣了。

Piqued your appetite for something just means you became more interested in it.

或者如果你有想象力，或者你变得有想象力，你可以说，“激发我的想象力。”

Or if you're imaginative or you become imaginative, you could say, "Pique my imagination."

那本科幻小说激发了我的想象力。

The science fiction novel piqued my imagination.

对。

Yes.

那种情况，尤其是在阅读的时候，但任何时候，如果你的思绪开始天马行空，你就会冒出各种想法。

That sort, especially when you're reading, but any time, if your mind starts running wild, you're getting all of these ideas.

这在工作中也可能发生。

This could happen at work, too.

比如，别人分享的一个点子激发了我的想象力，然后我们突然就有了一个很棒的设计。

It'd be like, the idea someone else shared piqued my imagination, and suddenly we had a great logo.

没错，或者一个博物馆展览也能激发你的想象力。

Exactly, or maybe a museum exhibit could pique your imagination.

很多事情都能激发你的想象力。

A lot of things could pique your imagination.

我以后要开始多用这个短语了——

I'm going to start using this phrase more-

我也是，对吧？

I am too, right?

……在不同的场景里更多地用这个词。

... this word more in different scenarios.

我确实会。

I do.

你确实在用，因为你在播客里用了这个词，这就是我们聊这个的起因。

You do use, because with this, you used it on the podcast, and that's what inspired this.

我时不时会发现自己用这个词，但我应该多用一些。

Every now and then I catch myself using it, but I should use it more.

这个短语真的很有意思。

It is such a fun phrase.

是的。

Yes.

我同意。

I agree.

当然。

For sure.

那还有哪个词，Aubrey，今天我们可以分享的最后一个？

And what's another one, Aubrey, the last one that we could share today?

这个呢，是用来引起你担忧的，所以是另一个极端。

So this is for something to pique your concern, so more on the other end of the spectrum.

比如，他突然改变行为，这引起了我的担忧。

Maybe the sudden change in his behavior piqued my concern.

家长可能会这么说，对吧？

A parent might say this, right?

对。

Yes.

他那么晚回家，或者我没听到他消息的时候，我的担忧就被引发了。

My concern was piqued when he got home so late, or when I didn't hear-

对。

Yes

好几个小时都没他的消息。

... from him for hours.

意思就是说你的担忧增加了。

Just means it increased your concern.

对，或者说那份报告引发了投资者对当前经济的担忧。

Right, or the report piqued investors' concerns about the economy these days.

我知道昨天美联储刚开了月度例会，他们会宣布是加息还是降息，整个华尔街都在等美联储主席——

I know yesterday, the Fed just had its monthly check-in, where they say whether they're going to raise interest rates or cut interest rates, and all of Wall Street is always waiting for the Fed chair-

——出来说接下来会怎么样。

... to say what's going to happen.

所以这是个非常重要的时刻——

And so it's like a massive moment-

没错

Exactly

——股市的走势很大程度上取决于他给出的暗示。

... in the way stocks move, depending on what hints that he gives.

所以——

So-

很多人看到这样的报道，确实会感到担忧，对吧？

A lot of people's concerns are piqued, right, when there's reports like that

是的。

Yes.

这完全可以用来谈论政治、时事。

This could definitely be used about politics, about current affairs.

你会在新闻文章里看到，某人因为别人的言论或行为而感到担忧。

You'll see this in news articles that someone's concern is piqued based on what someone says or does.

好，不错。

All right, good stuff.

好了，Aubrey，我们回来做角色扮演。

Okay, Aubrey, we're back for a role play.

在这个角色扮演里，你和我扮演朋友，那我们开始吧。

Here in this role play, you and I are friends, so here we go.

你准备好了吗？

Are you ready?

是的。

Yes.

嘿，你看到那个关于废弃城市的新纪录片的预告片了吗？

Hey, have you seen the trailer for that new documentary about abandoned cities?

没有，但你勾起了我的好奇心。

No, but you just piqued my curiosity.

它是讲什么的？

What's it about?

讲的是人们遗弃的地方，以及那里隐藏的故事。

It's about places people left behind and the stories hidden there.

这真的让我对城市历史产生了兴趣。

It really piqued my interest in urban history.

我要把它加到我的清单里。

I'm going to add it to my list.

我真的很喜欢纪录片。

I really like documentaries.

我觉得你会喜欢的。

I think you'd enjoy it.

有些画面真的让我浮想联翩。

Some of the images really piqued my imagination.

它们让我好奇多年前那里的生活是什么样的。

They made me wonder what life was like there years ago.

是的。

Yes.

我被说服了。

I'm convinced.

我打算这个周末就看。

I'm going to watch it this weekend.

哦，那是一部真实的纪录片吗？

Oh, is that a real documentary?

不是。

No.

我想看那个。

I want to watch that.

我也想去看。

I want to watch it too.

好的。

Okay.

我倒希望它是真的。

I wish it were.

也许吧。

Maybe.

我得去查一下——

I'm going to have to look it up-

我知道。

I know

……看看有没有类似的东西存在。

... and see if something like that exists.

可能有吧。

It might.

确实，对吧？

It's true, right?

有很多废弃的旧城市和小镇。

There are old abandoned cities and towns.

住在西部这边，你经常会看到废弃的采矿小镇——

Living here in the West, often you'll see old abandoned mining towns-

是的

Yes

……诸如此类的东西。

... things like that.

我相信你肯定见过——

I'm sure you see that-

……在亚利桑那那边。

... out in Arizona.

我是说，墓碑镇是最有名的一个，离我这儿往南不远。

I mean, Tombstone is one of the most famous ones, which isn't that far south from where I am.

我们一直想带孩子去看看。

And we keep meaning to take our kids.

那儿现在基本上就是个废弃的老矿镇，成了鬼城了。

It's like an old abandoned mine, a ghost town now, really.

哦，这样啊。

Oh, okay.

不过我觉得它更像杰克逊霍尔，算是个还在运作的小镇。

But I think it's still more like Jackson Hole, where it's kind of a working town.

你可以去逛逛那些商店。

You can go to some of the shops.

好的。

Okay.

那里可能有一些活动和什么的，所以我得去——

They probably have activities there and things, so I need to go-

那挺酷的。

That's pretty cool

——总有一天要去。

... one of these days.

对，想象一下确实挺酷的。

Yeah, that actually is really cool to imagine.

是啊，那时候的生活是什么样的，人们关心什么，这个镇子后来怎么了？

Yeah, what was life like at that time, and what were people's concerns, and what happened to this town?

大家都去哪儿了？

Where did everyone go?

没错。

Exactly.

好的。

Okay.

真的很酷。

Really cool.

超级有意思。

Super interesting.

好，那我们过一遍这个。

Well, let's run through this.

我一开始说你在分享你刚看的那部新纪录片，然后我说：“那真是勾起了我的好奇心。

I first said you're sharing about this new documentary you had seen, and I said, "That just piqued my curiosity.

它是讲什么的？”

What's it about?"

所以，其实就是用一种有趣的方式说：“好，我很好奇。

So yeah, just a fun way of saying, like, "Okay, I'm curious.

多跟我说说。”

Tell me more."

我在听。

I'm listening.

对，没错。

Yeah, exactly.

然后我说：“这真的激起了我对城市历史的兴趣。”

And then I said, "It really piqued my interest in urban history."

所以你可以更具体地说你的兴趣是什么，对吧？

So you can be more specific about what your interest is, right?

就是城市历史。

It's urban history.

对，意思就是它让我对某件事产生了兴趣，但这样说更有趣一些。

Yeah, which means the same as like, it made me interested in something, but it's just a more interesting way of saying that.

然后我说：“我要把它加到我的清单里。”

And then I was saying, "I'm going to add it to my list.

我喜欢纪录片。”

I love documentaries."

然后你说：“有些画面真的激发了我的想象力。”

And you said, "Some of the images really piqued my imagination."

所以如果你在想象——

So if you're imagining-

……废弃的建筑和那些让你思考以前生活是什么样的东西，你会说，"那激发了我的想象力。"

... abandoned buildings and all these kinds of things that kind of make you think, what was life like, you'd say, "That piqued my imagination."

完美。

Perfect.

当然，朋友们，你不会在一次对话中用五次"piqued"。

Obviously, guys, you're not going to use piqued five times in one conversation.

这就是这些角色扮演总是有趣的地方。

That's what's always funny about these role plays.

但这只是一个简单的例子。

But this is just a simple example.

我当然不会用全部五个，甚至三个都不会。

I certainly wouldn't use all five, even three.

我们中的一个人——

One of us-

不

No

……可能会用不同的方式说，因为就像，哦，她已经说了piqued。

... would probably say this differently, because it's like, oh, she already said piqued.

我会换个说法。

I'll say it a different way.

对，我们会开始，或者我们开始互相取笑——

Yeah, we would start to, or we start to make fun of each other-

对，没错

Yeah, exactly

……因为用得太多了，或者开开玩笑，对吧？

... for using it so much or some kind of riffing, right?

而且我们还有关于开玩笑的其他节目，也去看看吧。

And we have other episodes on riffing, so check those out, too.

真的很不错。

Really good stuff.

那么奥布里，我们的听众现在还可以去哪里继续收听呢？

So Aubrey, where else can our listeners go right now to keep listening?

就是你提到的那期关于外貌歧视的节目。

That episode you mentioned about lookism.

那是什么？

What is it?

当我们提到那篇关于外貌歧视的文章时，可能已经引起了你的好奇心。

That might have piqued your curiosity when we mentioned this article about lookism.

所以往上翻一翻。

So scroll up.

那是周六的节目，10月10日那期，标题是《什么是外貌歧视，我们能做些什么？》

That was Saturday's episode, October 10th, "What is Lookism, and What Can We Do About It?"

如果你错过了，一定要去听听看。

If you missed that, definitely go check it out.

这个话题真的很有意思，也很适合用来拉近人与人之间的距离。

It's such an interesting conversation topic and great for connection.

对，今天给大家的一个要点就是，我们感兴趣的东西正是能引发共鸣的，对吧？

Yeah, and for a takeaway today, guys, the things that we're interested in are what spark connection, right?

是的。

Yes.

那共鸣从何而来呢？

And where does connection come?

它来自于和人们共度时光、进行对话，尤其是聊那些你感兴趣或者让你有感触、对你真正有意义的事情。

It comes from spending time with people and having conversations with people, especially about things that you're interested in or maybe emotional about that actually mean something to you.

这也是我们找出和别人共同点的方式。

This is how we figure out what we have in common with people as well.

所以学会这个词，在聊你感兴趣的话题时就用上它，对吧？

So learn this word and just throw it in there when you're talking about what interests you, right?

没错。

Exactly.

当有人开启对话说“好吧，我兴趣来了”的时候，那真是件很有趣的事。

It's such a fun thing when someone starts a conversation and be like, "Okay, my interest is piqued."

说这句话来告诉别人，多有意思啊——

What a fun thing to say to let someone know-

……

...

我对这场对话很感兴趣。

I'm interested in this conversation.

我喜欢这个说法。

I love it.

太好了。

So good.

这比直接说感兴趣更有意思。

It's kind of a more interesting way to say you're interested.

对，没错。

Yeah, exactly.

好了，不错的内容。

All right, good stuff.

好的，Aubrey，祝你今天剩下的时间愉快，我们很快再见。

All right, Aubrey, you have a good rest of your day, and I'll see you back here very soon.

太棒了。

Awesome.

下次见。

See you next time.

拜拜。

Bye.

拜拜。

Bye.

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Thanks for listening to "All Ears English."

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And if you believe in connection not perfection, then hit subscribe now to make sure you don't miss anything.

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See you next time.