AEE 36: Spice up Your English with Ron from English Funcast

这是《All Ears English》播客第36期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode 36.

跟着English Funcast的Ron，让你的英语更有趣。

Spice up your English with Ron from English Funcast.

欢迎收听《All Ears English》播客，在这里，你将真正听到母语者在工作和生活中的自然对话，提升英语流利度。

Welcome to the All Ears English Podcast where you'll finally get real native English conversation and fluency for business and life.

我们相信，学英语的关键在于交流，而不是完美。

We believe in connection, not perfection, when it comes to learning English.

接下来，为大家介绍两位主持人：热爱英语冒险的林赛·麦马洪，以及前雅思考官杰西卡·比克，她们来自美国波特兰和波士顿。

Now here are your hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and former IELTS examiner Jessica Beck, coming to you from Portland and Boston, USA.

你想听懂英语里的笑话吗？

Do you want to get the joke in English?

学英语，幽默是最好的方式。

Humor is the best way to learn.

看看怎么才能听懂更多英语笑话，和母语者一起笑得更开心。

Find out how you can understand more English jokes and laugh more often with your native friends.

嘿，林赛。

Hey, Lindsey.

你最近听到什么好笑的笑话了吗？

Have you heard any good jokes lately?

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

我倒想不起来一个。

I nothing comes to mind, actually.

我本该准备一个的，毕竟今天我们聊的就是笑话。

I should have one ready because today we are talking about jokes.

我特别喜欢那种爹系笑话。

But I love I I like the dad jokes.

对吧？

Right?

那种 cheesy、搞笑又傻乎乎的爸爸笑话，干净有趣，还带点书呆子气。

The cheesy, funny, silly dad jokes that are clean and just sort of fun and nerdy.

爸爸笑话就是这么书呆子气。

They're so nerdy dad jokes.

我超爱书呆子笑话。

I love nerdy jokes.

我超爱双关语。

I love puns.

我超爱文字游戏。

I love wordplay.

对吧？

Right?

我也是。

Me too.

我觉得这可能就是为什么我能真正享受和我十岁儿子待在一起的原因。

And I think this is one reason why I can like legitimately enjoy hanging out with my 10 year old son

还有他朋友们，因为我们

and his friends because we

幽默感很相似。

have a similar sense of humor.

我依然会觉得十岁孩子觉得好笑的东西很好笑。

I still find stuff funny that 10 year old kids find funny.

我觉得所有事情都挺搞笑的。

I just find just everything funny.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

这也太好笑了。

That's so funny.

十岁孩子一般觉得哪些事情好笑？

What kinds of things do 10 year old kids find funny?

就是一些很傻气的东西吗？

Is it just things that are like silly?

就是那种搞笑类型的吗？

Is it like silly humor?

肯定是搞笑类型。

Silliness for sure.

还有文字游戏，因为他们一旦听懂这种双关语，就会特别得意。

But wordplay because, like, they're proud when they understand these sorts of puns.

对。

Yes.

还有就是那种身体笑话，你知道的，他们一看到就忍不住笑。

And then any, like, you know, body humor because they're just Oh, yeah.

他们虽然还是小孩，但正在慢慢长大。

They're still little kids, but they're, like, growing.

所以任何拿身体或日常行为开玩笑的，他们都会觉得好笑。

And so anything making fun of, you know Yeah.

身体和那些行为相关的笑话，永远都能逗乐他们。

Bodies and what we do is always funny.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

没错

Yeah.

确实

Yeah.

我喜欢双关语。

So, I mean, I like puns.

我觉得挺有意思的。

I think they're fun.

我举个例子吧。

I mean, here's an example of a pun.

等了好久， bowling alley 终于开门了，我们总算把球给滚起来了。

After hours of waiting for the bowling alley to open, we finally got the ball rolling.

太棒了

That's so

没错。

great.

目标特别有意思。

Goals are so fun.

我觉得挺有趣的。

I think they're fun.

这太厉害了。

That's so awesome.

今天节目的最后，我们还会给大家准备一个双关语。

We do have a pun coming up for you towards the end of today's show as well, guys.

别走开，接下来还有一个让你笑出声的双关语。

So stay tuned for another pun that'll get you laughing.

我们之所以聊喜剧，是因为我们之前采访过一位来自加拿大的老师，他曾经做过一个播客。

But the reason why we're talking about comedies is we actually spoke to a teacher from Canada who had a podcast for a while.

他叫罗恩，那个播客叫《English Funcast》。

His name is Ron and the podcast was the English Funcast.

虽然他现在已经不再更新了，但你还是可以访问他的网站 englishfuncast.com。

And even though he does not publish these anymore, you can still go to his website, englishfuncast.com.

网站上有146集内容，你可以听、读笑话，还能听讲解。

There are 146 episodes on there you can listen to, you can read the jokes, and you can hear them explained.

这真是个很棒的资源。

So it's a great resource.

没错。

Yes.

这有什么重要的呢？

Why is this even important?

我们为什么要跟学生分享这个？

Why are we sharing this with our students?

关键是，用幽默的方式学习特别有效，因为当你觉得有趣、在笑的时候，学得更多、也更快。

Well, the whole idea here, guys, is that learning with humor is such a good way to learn because when we're enjoying something, we're laughing, we're actually learning more and learning faster.

你觉得呢，杰西卡？

Don't you think, Jessica?

完全同意。

Totally.

没错。

Yes.

对的。

Mhmm.

在我们进一步探讨好处之前，各位，我们马上就会让你们明白学习英语笑话和幽默有多重要，先来听听罗恩的自我介绍吧。

And before we dive more into the benefits, guys, and we will convince you to learn about jokes and humor in English, let's go ahead and listen to Ron introduce himself.

好的，我原本是一名英语老师。

Alright, so I'm originally an English teacher.

我在中国教了几年书，后来回到加拿大，现在在这所私立高中任教。

I taught in China for a few years and then I came back to Canada and I'm teaching here at like a private high school.

空闲时间我喜欢搞喜剧。

And in my spare time, like to do comedy.

我经常做单口喜剧表演。

I do a lot of stand up comedy.

我会去多伦多的不同酒吧讲笑话。

I go to different bars in Toronto and I tell jokes.

我做了个叫《English Funcast》的播客，通过讲笑话的方式来教英语。

And what I did was I created the English Funcast podcast where it's a method where I can like tell jokes and at the same time teach English.

因为当你听懂一个英文笑话并笑出来的时候，就说明你真的理解了。

Because when you like learn from jokes, if you laugh at a joke in English, it means you actually understood the joke.

而且这里面

And there's a

有很多

lot of

可以学到的双关语，比如常见的名字之类的。

puns you can learn like common names and like stuff like that.

明白了。

Okay.

好的。

Alright.

太棒了。

That's awesome.

所以他真的在做脱口秀。

So he actually does stand up comedy.

对吧？

Right?

哇哦。

Wow.

我

I

我可不敢去表演脱口秀。

would be terrified to do stand up comedy.

你觉得你怎么能做到呢？

What do you think you could do that?

我知道米歇尔在纽约做过一点单口喜剧，咱们得问问她这事。

Well, I know Michelle has done a little bit of stand up comedy in New York, so we have to ask her about that.

不过，我绝对做不到这种事。

But, no, I would never be able to do that.

我觉得单口喜剧演员厉害的地方在于，他们能发现那些特别平常的事。

I think what's really good about stand up comedians is that they identify what's kind of mundane.

他们能把日常中的幽默给挖出来。

They identify the funny in the mundane.

就是我们每个人都会做的、有点傻但很好笑的事。

The things that we all do that are kind of silly and funny.

对。

Yes.

而且他们

And they

能把这些点以别人从来没想过的方式给展现出来。

high they pull that out in a way that most people haven't thought about before.

所以大多数时候，大家都能跟脱口秀演员产生共鸣。

So it's like everyone can relate to a stand up comedian most of the time.

没错。

Totally.

我特别喜欢去看喜剧演出。

And I love going to comedy shows.

你喜欢吗？

Do you like to?

是的。

Yeah.

我超爱脱口秀。

I love stand up comedy.

对，这绝对是首选。

Yeah, that's definitely the first.

脱口秀确实能促进人与人之间的联结，对吧？

That is one way that stand up can build community and connection, right?

因为你知道，看这段视频、听这些段子的人，都能感同身受，对吧？

Because you know that everyone watching this and hearing these jokes can identify, can't like have a similar experience, right?

我特别喜欢单口喜剧的另一点是，它能把那些艰难甚至痛苦的事，用一种方式呈现出来，让你觉得没那么糟了。这其实也在建立一种联结——你看，原来大家都遇到过类似的问题。

The other thing I really like about stand up is that they can take difficult things, and perhaps painful things, and shine light on them in a way that makes you feel better about something And that's that also I think creates community is like, you know what, we all struggle with a bunch of the same things.

如果我们能用幽默来看待这些事，就能从痛苦中夺回一些力量。

And if we can make light of it, we can take that power away from the pain.

所以这也是另一种方式。

And so that's another way.

这么说可能有点沉重，但正是这一点，让我特别欣赏单口喜剧。

That's kind of a heavy look at it, but that is something I really appreciate about stand up.

对。

Yeah.

我见过一些研究，从生理角度来说，大笑确实能减轻压力。

I mean, I've seen the proof that physiologically speaking, laughing does reduce stress.

这一点我们都懂。

And we know it.

我们知道，那种从肚子里笑出来的开怀大笑，真的特别爽，对吧？

We know that feeling a really good belly laugh, which is a bonus phrase for today, right?

什么叫开怀大笑啊，杰西卡？

What is a belly laugh, Jessica?

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

我还想说点关于笑的事。

And I have something else to say about laughter.

开怀大笑啊，朋友们，就是形容那种特别深、特别大的笑。

But a belly laugh, guys, that's just a phrase to describe a really deep, big laugh.

我是说那种真正的笑，你知道的，不是那种客套的、勉强的笑。

And I mean, like a real laugh, you know, not just like a polite, like,

对，不是硬憋出来的，对吧？

Yeah, it's not forced, right?

就是那种从心底一下子涌出来的笑声。

Just it just boot like just booms out of you.

对吧？

Right?

根本憋不住。

Like, can't hold it in.

在Ron跟我们分享幽默的好处之前，我想快速说一件事。

But I want to share something real fast before Ron shares with us some of the benefits of humor.

好吧。

Okay.

还有他为什么想教我们这个。

And why he wants to teach us about that.

有意思的是，在詹姆斯健康课上，他们正在讨论如何缓解压力和焦虑。

But just interestingly enough, so in James Health Unit in his class, they are talking about how to relieve stress and anxiety.

他们谈到了笑的科学。

And they talked about the science of laughter.

他们说，哪怕你假装笑，逼自己笑出来，身体获得的益处也跟真笑一模一样，我觉得这挺有意思的。

And they said, even if you pretend to laugh, you make yourself laugh, that will still have the same physiological benefits as a real laugh with which I thought was interesting.

他们上课还做了一种叫‘笑瑜伽’的活动。

And they did something in class called laughing yoga.

哦，我听说过这个。

Oh, I've heard that.

我以前试过。

I've tried that before.

没错，这真是太棒了。

Yes, that is the coolest thing.

特别有意思。

It's so cool.

天啊，大家一定要去搜一搜这个。

Oh my gosh, definitely guys look this up.

我觉得用这个来缓解焦虑特别好。

I love this as a way to deal with anxiety.

但特别搞笑的是，那天晚些时候，詹姆斯有点不开心，我就说：‘来吧，咱们做笑瑜伽。’

But it was really funny because later on in that day, James was upset about something and I was like, alright, let's do laughing yoga.

他当时就说：‘哦，结果真的管用。’

And he was like, oh, and then it totally worked.

这招真的有效，你们信我。

It totally works, you guys.

好了。

All right.

那我们回到朋友Ron那里，听听他为什么要做这个播客，以及为什么学生要通过幽默来学英语。

So let's go back to our friend Ron and hear about why he is doing this podcast and why students need to learn English through humor.

我觉得挺有意思的。

I guess it's exciting.

能让人集中注意力。

It gets the listeners or the learners focused.

他们一开始读的时候，如果反复读，等真正懂了，就会忍不住笑出来。

When they start reading it, if you read it over and over again, once they understand it, they'll actually start laughing.

这样一来，他们就知道自己真的读懂了。

And this way they know that like, they understood what they just read.

好的，琳达。

All right, Lindsay.

在我们继续听罗恩的故事之前，先说说他为什么做这个节目，我想跟你聊聊这个。

Before we get back to Ron, and a little bit more about why he made that show, I wanted to stop here and discuss this with you.

所以，这种学习方法，对吧？

So yeah, this method of learning, right?

他希望人们能专注在笑话的字词上，真正理解它们。

He wants people to get focused on the words on the joke, right and allow people to understand it.

没错。

Yes.

你觉得在另一种语言里理解笑话重要吗？

Do you think that's important to understand jokes in another language?

为什么这会这么难呢？

And why is that so hard?

我觉得这真的特别重要。

Well, I think it's I do think it's super important.

我觉得很大一部分原因在于文化差异。

And I think a lot of it is hard because of culture.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

首先，一个文化里觉得好笑的东西，在另一个文化里可能完全不搞笑。

Well, first of all, there's the concept of what's funny in another culture may not be the same.

对吧？

Right?

而且，很多脱口秀演员、喜剧人，甚至平时爱开玩笑的人，都依赖文化背景来制造笑点。

And then there's the concept of a lot of what we use, what stand up comedians use or comedians or just everyday funny people, they use cultural material.

没错。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

无论是素材还是生活方式，都是我们日常谈论的内容，这些在不同文化中也可能不一样。

Material or ways of life, talk things we do every day, and that might be different across cultures too.

所以我们在理解其他语言的笑话时面临一些障碍，但正因如此，我觉得这才是终极目标。

So we have a couple of hurdles when it comes to understanding jokes in another language, but that's why I think it's the ultimate goal.

对我来说，这绝对是最高水平之一。

To me, this is one of the highest Definitely.

流利的标志之一，毫无疑问。

Signs of fluency Definitely.

当你能听懂一个笑话，甚至能用第二语言讲笑话逗别人笑的时候。

When you can understand a joke and even when you can tell a joke and make other people laugh in a second language.

所以我们的学生、我们的听众应该受到鼓舞，继续坚持幽默的学习，因为最终一定能做到的。

So that's why our students our listeners should feel motivated to keep going with humor because eventually it'll get there, guys.

没错。

Exactly.

而且你知道吗？我们经常说，学语言最好的方式之一就是融入目标文化的环境，这不只是背单词那么简单，得有上下文，对吧？

And, you know, we we talk a lot about how the one of the best ways to learn a language, guys is to get into that target culture like it's not just about words that stand by themselves without context, right?

所以文化才是语言的背景，对吧？

And so culture is the context for language, right?

没错，就像琳赛说的，这确实特别有挑战性，但努力理解这种幽默绝对值得，因为你学的不只是单词，更是文化，是语境。

And so yeah, it is super challenging, like Lindsay said, but it is such a worthwhile goal to try to understand this humor guys, because you are not just learning words, you are learning culture, you are learning context.

这才是你将来能和母语者真正建立连接的方式。

And this is how you're going to connect with native speakers in the future.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

所以

So

太棒了。

So good.

咱们再听一段吧，好。

Let's listen to a little bit more Okay.

我们来听听Ron为什么一开始要做这个节目，以及你们学生为什么会喜欢它。

About Ron telling us why he started this show in the first place and why you students will love it.

我只是希望他们能在学英语的过程中有所进步，同时享受其中的乐趣。

I just want them to, know, improve their English and have a good time while doing it.

对吧？

Right?

我觉得学语言最重要的是能让自己保持动力。

Like, think the most important thing when like studying a language is to be able to motivate yourself.

对吧？

Right?

现在市面上有各种各样的学习方法，每个人都要找到最适合自己的那一种。

Like there's many different methods out there and people have to find the best method for themselves.

如果他们喜欢边笑边学，那这个方式可能正合他们的心意。

And if they like to laugh and learn, then maybe that's method that they'd enjoy.

太棒了，我真的很喜欢这一点。

Okay, so I love this so much.

这个笑中学习的方法，对吧？

This this laughing method, right?

我特别喜欢这种把笑变成学习方式的理念。

I love that that could be like a learning methodology to laughing method.

我明白，因为这跟我们的听众以前见过的任何方式都完全不同。

I know because it's so different from anything that I think our listeners have ever seen.

对吧？

Right?

老办法就是课堂、课本、死记硬背。

The old way is the classroom, the textbook, the memorization.

这才是新方法，朋友们。

This is the new way, guys.

这很有趣。

This is fun.

没错。

Exactly.

学语言其实可以很有趣。

Learning a language can actually be fun.

所以我特别高兴请来了Ron，让他跟大家分享他的经验。

And that's why I'm so excited we've Ron here to to hear from him and to understand this.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

Ron 给我们分享了一个笑话，想讲给大家听。

So Ron did share with us a joke to tell you guys.

明白吗？

Okay?

接下来我们来讲这个笑话，你们要认真想一想。

So we are going to tell you this joke, and I want you guys to really think about this.

这有什么好笑的？

Why is this funny?

好了，林赛，我来讲个笑话。

Alright, Lindsey, I'm gonna tell the joke.

你准备好了吗？

Are you ready?

我准备好了。

I'm ready.

我准备好了。

I'm ready.

开始吧。

Go for Last

那天晚上，我去了一家24小时超市，结果到那儿时，店员正要把前门锁上。

night, I went to a twenty four hour grocery, and when I got there, the guy was locking the front door.

我就说：‘不是说24小时营业吗？’

So I was like, hey, the sign says you're open twenty four hours.

他却说：不是连着的。

And he goes, not in a row.

太棒了。

Love it.

我真的喜欢这个。

I love it.

我特别喜欢这个。

I love it.

我不确定我们的听众有没有听懂这个笑话。

I wonder if our listeners understood that joke.

你觉得呢？

What do you think?

我觉得不少人应该明白这个笑点。

I think some of you probably got it.

但这其实是个习语式的包袱。

But this is an idiomatic punchline.

对吧？

Right?

笑话的笑点就是最后一句话，让人发笑的关键。

So the punchline is that very last line of a joke that makes it funny.

对吧？

Right?

就是那个

It's what

出人意料，对吧？

is surprising, right?

正是这个让人笑出来。

And it's what makes you laugh.

这个是个习语，难怪不容易懂。

And this one's an idiom, I could see why this would be difficult to get.

in a row 就是连续的意思，对吧？

So in a row just means consecutive, right?

事情是这样的。

So here's the thing.

通常你看到某个地方标着24小时营业，就会觉得它是全天候开着的，对吧？

Usually when you see something is open twenty four hours, then that means like all the time, right?

全天候开着。

All the time.

一天到晚都开着。

All day, every day.

对。

Yeah.

但他这里的意思恰恰相反。

But here he's like, that's not what it means.

它并不是指连续24小时营业。

It doesn't mean twenty four consecutive hours.

它可能是指一周总共营业24小时，每天就开三个小时左右之类的。

It could mean, like, twenty four hours in a whole week, and they're only open, like, three hours a day or whatever.

对啊。

Right.

没错。

Right.

或者一个月也说不定。

Or in a month.

谁知道呢？

Who knows?

也许他们工作量本来就很小。

Maybe they just have a very light workload.

所以就干脆这么干了。

And so they they just do it.

他们只在特定的时间开门，选得非常精准。

They're open at selective hours, very selected hours.

我喜欢这个说法。

I love that.

而且我很高兴，杰西卡，你提到了‘包袱’这个词，因为很多人说话时总会说：‘好了，重点来了。’

And and I'm glad, Jessica, that you highlighted that term punchline because a lot of times people will say, and here's the punchline.

对吧？

Right?

他们就是这么把包袱抛出来的。

They they they deliver it in that way.

这种表达方式挺有意思的，大家不妨也用用。

And that's kind of a fun way to thing to add to your language, guys.

太棒了。

So good.

我也超喜欢。

I love it.

还有另一个我们讲笑话时经常用的随意说法。

And another sort of idiomatic throwaway line that we use a lot when we're telling jokes to our friends.

比如你觉得自己的笑话拖得太久，或者解释得太多——我有时候就特别容易这样。

Like, if you feel like your joke is taking a while or maybe you're just explaining too much, which I totally do sometimes.

有时候你干脆停一下，说：等等看。

Sometimes you could just stop and be like, wait for it.

我们有时候会说，别急，好笑的部分马上就来。

We we say this sometimes when we're like, no, come on the funny parts coming.

等等看。

Wait for it.

所以别再说‘笑点来了’，你可以说‘等等看’。

So instead of saying, and the punch line is, you could say, wait for it.

就这么做。

Do it.

然后停顿一下，再讲出笑点，效果会更搞笑。

And then pause, and then give the punch line, and it makes it even funnier.

这招太棒了。

Oh, this is so good.

对听众来说，语调的把握也特别关键。

And the intonation is so important to highlight for our listeners too.

再等等。

Wait for it.

你知道的，我们都明白，后面还有更精彩的，朋友们。

You know, there we know something else is coming, guys.

这太棒了。

This is so good.

所以我真心建议我们的听众去听听罗恩的播客。

So, I mean, I really wanna encourage our listeners to go over and check out Ron's podcast.

对吧，杰西卡？

Right, Jessica?

当然。

Definitely.

没错。

Yeah.

而且别忘了，我喜欢这一点，因为这可是限量资源。

And remember, guys, like, I love that this is I love that this is a finite resource.

有时候看到一个新播客有三千多集，真会让人吓一跳，不知从哪儿开始。

Because sometimes diving into a new podcast when you see there are 3,000 episodes is kinda like, oh my god.

该从哪里听起呢？

Where do I start?

但这里有个特别棒的地方，朋友们，只要去 English Funcast 点 com，你会发现总共才 146 集。

But the great thing here, guys, is that if you go to English Funcast dot com, you will see a 146 episodes in all.

全部就这些了，朋友们。

That's all of them, guys.

你可以从第一集开始听。

You could start from the beginning.

每一集都特别有意思。

And each one, it's really cool.

听播客的同时，下面还能看到那个笑话。

You listen to the podcast, and right underneath it, you can read the joke.

先读一遍笑话吧。

So read the joke first.

我觉得就是这样。

That's what I think.

然后听播客，听他怎么解释，再大声朗读一遍，练习讲这个笑话。

And then listen to the podcast where he explains it, and then go ahead and read it again out loud and practice telling the joke.

太棒了。

I love it.

我要特别感谢Ron来参加节目，告诉我们他的播客。

So I wanna say a big thank you to Ron for coming on, you know, for letting us know about his podcast.

这真的很有意思。

This has been really fun.

了解新的英语学习资源总是好事。

It's always good to know about new resources to learn English.

是的。

Yeah.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

当然了。

For sure.

接下来我们还会邀请更多有趣的嘉宾，大家敬请期待。

And we have many more fun guests coming up in the near future, guys.

别走开，精彩继续。

So stay tuned.

好的。

Alright.

太棒了。

Awesome.

杰西卡，谢谢你今天来参加。

Jessica, thanks for hanging out today.

不客气。

My pleasure.

真的很开心。

Super fun.

回头聊。

Talk soon.

再见。

Bye.

再见，林赛。

Bye, Lindsey.

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Thanks for listening to All Ears English.

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下次见。

See you next time.