AEE第15集：如何让母语为英语的人主动来找你

这是《All Ears English》播客第15期。

This is an All Ears English Podcast episode 15.

教你如何让母语是英语的人主动找你聊天。

How to bring native English speakers to you.

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你是不是觉得自己的英语进步卡住了？

Are you feeling stuck with your English?

我们会教你如何放下完美主义，通过建立真实连接，变得自信又流利。

We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection.

本期节目由两位美国主持人带来：冒险家英语达人林赛·麦马洪，以及纽约电台女孩米歇尔·卡普兰，她们分别从科罗拉多和纽约市为你直播。

With your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, USA.

你该怎么才能获得更多和母语者说英语的机会？

How can you get more opportunities to speak English with natives?

答案跟亮色衣服、政治标语、涂得鲜艳的指甲、纹身、大学T恤这些东西有关，还有很多别的。

The answer has to do with bright colors, political slogans, painted nails, tattoos, and college t shirts, and more.

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米歇尔，你今天怎么样？

Michelle, how are you today?

我挺好的。

I'm good.

我挺好的。

I'm good.

琳赛，你最近怎么样？

How are you, Lindsey?

特别棒。

Awesome.

能来这儿我太兴奋了。

So excited to be here.

米歇尔，今天我们主要是为了听众来聊聊，怎么才能跟母语是英语的人开启对话呢？

And, Michelle, today we are here for our listeners to talk about, you know, how can we start conversations with native English speakers?

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

这确实是关键问题。

So that is the million dollar question.

对吧？

Right?

我的意思是，我们总想着怎么主动去找人，怎么寻找机会接触别人，但你有没有想过，怎么让说英语的母语者主动来找你？

I mean, we wanna start to think about how, you know, I think we spend a lot of time, like, thinking about how to seek people out, how to look for people, and how to find people, but how can you bring native English speakers to you?

这其实是一种完全不同的思路。

Is that's a different way of thinking about this.

你说得太对了，米歇尔。

That's so true, Michelle.

这个观点太棒了。

I love it.

这就像是吸引力的问题。

So it's it's like the pull factor.

没错。

Right.

你该怎么调整自己的表现方式，才能让人主动走近你，想和你聊天？

What is it that you can do about your self presentation that actually makes people come up to you and wanna talk to you?

我喜欢这个想法，因为它不仅适用于学英语，适用于任何场合。

And I love this idea because it's not just for learning English, it's for anything.

对。

Right.

这不意味着我们得穿得特别花哨。

It doesn't mean we have to be crazy flashy.

我们确实有些大胆的想法，但也可以简单到你衬衫的颜色。

We do have some ideas though to be crazy, but it could be as subtle as what color you're wearing on your shirt.

对。

Right.

没错。

Right.

是吧？

Right?

嗯，明白了。

Uh-huh.

好了，行了。

Now alright.

我们先说说那个疯狂的部分吧，米歇尔。

Let's start with the crazy though, Michelle.

就是那种离谱的元素。

So the off the wall factor.

对听众来说，‘离谱’到底是什么意思？

What does that mean off the wall for a listener?

‘离谱’就是独一无二、完全不一样。

Off the wall is, like, unique, totally different.

没错。

Yes.

完全不一样，有时候还让人震惊。

Totally different, sometimes shocking.

我一想到这个，米歇尔，就会想起那个人——我也不确定他现在还住不住纽约，但我住在纽约二月的时候，他总在联合广场附近溜达，头上顶着一只猫。

First thing I think about, Michelle, when I think about this, and I've mentioned this on the podcast before, is that guy I don't know if he still lives in New York, but when I lived in New York in the February, he would walk around with a cat on his head around Union Square downtown.

天哪。

Oh my god.

但这只是纽约而已。

But that's just New York.

纽约有很多怪人。

Like, there's a lot of crazy people in New York.

各种稀奇古怪的事儿都在发生。

A lot of crazy things are being done.

但可以肯定，他一路上总有人停下来围观。

But guaranteed, he had people stopping him.

他就是想要这样。

He wanted that.

很明显，他就是冲着这个来的。

It was clear that he wanted that.

Michelle，你有没有见过其他例子？有人因为做些疯狂的事儿而吸引注意？

Do you have any other examples of things you've seen, Michelle, where people just are drawing attention based on doing something crazy?

天哪。

Oh, man.

我知道确实有这种情况。

I know that there are things.

我不太确定。

I don't know.

我感觉我真的说不上来。

I feel like I don't know.

有时候人们会戴一些特别的东西，比如夸张的项链或者大件首饰，就是那种能让人忍不住多看两眼、觉得挺有意思的装扮。

Sometimes people just wear things that are like, it could be, like, a statement necklace or, like, big pieces of jewelry or something like that that kinda just, like, make people, like, look at them and find them interesting.

我一时想不起具体的例子。

I can't think of something specifically.

对。

Yeah.

但我真说不好。

But I don't know.

我记得高中时有个女生，穿搭特别有个性，人也特别有魅力。

I think that there was a girl in high school, and she always just had this very interesting fashion, and she was very engaging and interesting.

直到现在，我还记得她。

And, like, I still remember her to this day.

所以有时候，就算你根本不关心时尚，也没关系。

So sometimes it it even if you're not, like, a fashion person, that's okay.

但有时候，不妨试着玩点不一样的。

But sometimes, I don't know, play play with things a little bit.

你可能会发现，我觉得母语是英语的人通常都很会夸人。

You might because I think I think native English speaker I I think we're known for giving compliments.

我们总喜欢说：我喜欢这个。

We like to say, oh, I like this.

我喜欢那个。

I like that.

所以啊，没错。

So, like Yeah.

穿点能引出别人赞美的话。

Wear something that'll kinda draw that out of people.

因为我们都是人啊。

Because we know we're humans.

我们都想建立联系。

We want to connect.

对吧？

Right?

All Ears English 的核心就是建立联系，而不是追求完美。

That's what the whole All Ears English is based on is connection, not perfection.

我们就是想和人建立联系。

We wanna connect.

比如我看到别人，再举个例子，你的发色。

So if I see someone you know, another example could be your hair color.

你可能决定染个特别的颜色。

Maybe you decide to dye your hair an interesting color.

是的。

Yeah.

或者你的指甲。

Or your nails.

你可能把指甲涂成蓝色，或者其他特别显眼的颜色，尤其是女性，很可能会主动跟你聊这个。

Maybe you paint your nails like a blue or or some other color that it just stands out in someone, especially probably a woman is gonna come up and comment on that.

说到这个，我还会想到纹身。

Or I I I think of tattoos when I think of this.

在美国，纹身文化非常普遍，也早就被大家接受了。

You know, there's a whole culture of tattoos in The US, and they're definitely accepted.

当然，如果你在职场上，还是得注意纹身的位置。

I would be discerning about where they are, of course, if you're in the business world.

但说到纹身，别人往往会主动跟你搭话，说‘你的纹身真酷’。

But, you know, when it comes to tattoos, you know, people will reach out to you and say, love your tattoo.

这个图案是啥？

What is this?

这可是打开话题的好机会。

That's a conversation starter.

对吧，米歇尔？

Right, Michelle?

对。

Mhmm.

没错。

Mhmm.

是啊。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

所以你意思是，就是想着，有没有什么身体上的方式能让人主动夸你、跟你搭话？比如穿件印着城市名字的T恤之类的。

So you this is just about, you know, the idea of thinking, is there anything physically I could do to get people to, you know, maybe give me a compliment, maybe start a conversation, maybe wear a shirt with like, you know, a city on it or Yeah.

就拿我来说，我上的是马里兰大学。

You know, like like for me, so I went to I went to University of Maryland.

每当我看到有人穿马里兰大学的T恤，我都会忍不住说一句：特尔普斯队加油。

Whenever I see somebody wearing a University of Maryland t shirt, I'm like, always go go Terps.

我就觉得

I'm like

这话说得有道理。

Well, that's a good point.

所以这一点也引出了另一个问题，对吧？

So that and that leads to another Right?

就是通过这种方式开启对话，还能感受到一种归属感。

Just starting the conversation, but feeling that sense of tribe.

对吧？

Right?

那就是你的群体。

That's your tribe.

那个人跟你上的是同一所学校。

That person went to your school.

还有你们的运动队。

Connection your sports team.

是的。

Yeah.

或者就昨天星期五，我正在和另一位创业者开Skype会议，我们经常碰面交流想法。

Or even just yesterday on Friday, I was on a Skype meeting with another entrepreneur that we get together and we share ideas.

结果开到一半，我们发现穿着同一件T恤。

And we realized halfway through the meeting that we were wearing the same t shirt.

就是完全一样的那件T恤。

The exact same t shirt.

真的吗？

What?

对啊。

Yeah.

而且那件其实是播客主题的T恤。

And it was actually a podcasting t shirt.

我们都参加过同一个播客大会，是某个品牌推出的纪念衫。

We had both been to a podcasting conference, and it was a t shirt for a brand, for a company.

对

Mhmm.

我们俩都惊呆了。

And we were like, oh my gosh.

然后就觉得特别有共鸣。

And then we felt connected.

这其实是一种连接的方式。

So it's a way to connect.

是的。

Yeah.

这真是太好了。

That is that is great.

对。

Yeah.

所以朋友们，这些都是值得思考的不同角度。

So, guys, these are just different things to think about.

我的意思是，是啊。

I mean Mhmm.

你可以用各种方式吸引这些人，让他们说：‘哦，比如，琳赛，你也是这样吧。’

Different ways that you can draw those people to you that might get them to say, oh, like, like, let's say, like, okay, for example, you know, Lindsay, I I mean, and you do too.

我超爱东京。

I love Tokyo.

没错。

Yes.

我们也是。

We do.

如果有人穿着来自东京的衣服，或者任何我去过的地方的衣服——也不一定非得是日本，只要是我去过的地方，是的。

So if somebody was wearing, like, a shirt from Tokyo or somebody or or any other place that I've traveled, it don't have to be Japan, but any place that I've traveled to Yeah.

我可能会说：‘哦，我去过那儿，特别喜欢那儿，你知道的。’

I would probably be like, oh, I've been there, like, I loved it, you know?

我会特别兴奋。

Like, I would get excited.

当然了。

For sure.

所以啊，我觉得这挺有意思的，比如穿一件你最喜欢的地方的T恤。

So, yeah, I think that that can be kind of a fun thing, like maybe of your favorite place.

不一定非得是你家乡的地方，你可以穿一件你特别喜欢的其他地方的T恤。

It doesn't have to be the place that you're from, you could wear a shirt, you know, that's just another place that you really like.

没错。

Right.

这说明你去过那里。

It shows you traveled there.

或者还可以是去过的演唱会的纪念T恤。

Or maybe maybe, like another thing could be like shirt from a concert you went to.

这样就能跟音乐产生联系了。

That can kinda connect with music.

有太多不同的方式了。

So so many different things.

音乐品味？

Music taste?

当然了。

Absolutely.

再就是，如果你够胆大的话？

And then I'm thinking if you're gutsy enough right?

什么叫胆大？就是外向那种。

What does what does gutsy mean, Like, outgoing.

勇敢一点，比如穿件印着政治口号的T恤。

Brave, you know, a T shirt with a political slogan.

对。

Yeah.

尤其是选举那会儿，我穿了一件特别能表明我政治立场的T恤。

Especially around the time of the election, I had a T shirt that, like, very much signaled my political orientation.

对。

Yeah.

后来确实有几个人朝我点头了。

And then I did get, like, nods from certain people.

对吧？

Right?

那些人能感受到，我们之间有种默契。

People that recognize that, like, we had a connection.

最后我想说的是颜色。

So and then the last thing I wanna mention is just colors.

对吧？

Right?

你穿的衣服颜色，比如T恤，也能传递很多信息。

The color of your what you're wearing, like your t shirt, that can also do a lot.

前几天在会议上，我穿了一件亮金色的，我特别喜欢这个颜色。

Like, the other day at a conference, I was wearing a bright gold yellow, which, obviously, I love that color.

这是All Ears English的品牌色，我超爱这件衬衫。

It's the color of All Ears English, and I just love that shirt.

而且很多人对我的这件衣服夸个不停。

And I got quite a few comments and compliments on the shirt.

你穿得亮眼，自然就引人注目。

You just stand out.

在一群人里，大家看我的眼神都不一样，就因为我这件亮色的衣服。

So in a group, people looked at me like I stood out in the group because of that bright color.

对。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

这挺好。

That's good.

说得对，林赛。

That's a good point, Lindsay.

没错。

Yeah.

也在考虑颜色的问题。

Thinking about the colors as well.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

太多了。

So much.

真的太多了。

There's so much.

能做的事情太多了。

So much that you can do.

大家就尽情享受吧。

Just have fun with it, guys.

对。

Mhmm.

促进人与人之间的联系。

Bring about connection.

琳赛，这真有意思。

Lindsay, this was fun.

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你可以练习英语，也能参与到这种连接的感觉里来，

You can practice your English, and you can get in on this idea of connection,

而不是追求完美。

not perfection.

太棒了，米歇尔。

Awesome, Michelle.

下一期见。

I'll see you in the next episode.

保重。

Take care.

好的。

Alright.

再见，Lindsay。

Bye, Lindsay.

再见。

Bye.

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