AEE：为什么小睡是一个令人耳目一新的连接话题

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为什么小睡一会儿能成为轻松聊天的好话题。

Why napping is a refreshing connection topic.

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你能小睡一会儿吗？

Are you able to nap?

午睡是你文化或日常生活的一部分吗？

Is napping a part of your culture or your daily life?

今天我们要聊聊打盹和高效小睡，看看这怎么成为你用英语展开自然对话的起点。

Today, we dive into the topic of cat naps and power naps, and we show you how this can be the beginning of a robust connection conversation in English.

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English is part of how you're evaluated, whether you like it or not, in meetings, in interviews, in negotiations.

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The question isn't whether your English is okay or good enough.

而在于它是否真的为你服务。

It's whether it's working for you.

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嗨，琳达。

Hey, Lindsay.

你最近怎么样？

How are you?

挺好的，米歇尔。

Good, Michelle.

今天是不是觉得有点困？

Feeling sleepy today?

有没有想小睡一会儿的念头？

Are you feeling like you wanna take a nap?

是的。

Yeah.

我确实想睡个午觉。

I am feeling like I wanna take a nap.

你经常午睡吗，Lindsay？

Do you take a lot of naps, Lindsay?

你是个爱午睡的人吗？

Are you a napper?

其实昨天我小睡了一会儿，不过我平时很少这样。

Actually, sort of took a little nap yesterday, but I rarely do.

但不知怎么的，昨天就是觉得特别累，干脆躺下休息了。

But for some reason yesterday, I was just feeling a little tired, just decided to lie down.

大概睡了三十分钟，这种事难得有一次，感觉特别舒服。

So it took like a thirty minute nap or so, which was really nice for a change.

对。

Yeah.

是的

Yeah.

这挺好。

That's good.

是的

Yeah.

尤其是最近，我真的很需要小睡一会儿。

Especially lately, I absolutely need naps.

我们以前在节目里也聊过睡觉，今天就来聊聊小睡这件事。

And, you know, we've talked about sleeping before on the show, and today we're going to talk about naps.

是的

Yeah.

因为这真是个人人都有共鸣的话题——谁没想过要是能小睡一会儿该多好。

Because it is a good conversation topic everyone can relate to that feeling of oh I wish I could get a little nap or something like that.

如果想睡，能睡吗？

If they nap, can they nap?

所有这些方面。

All of these things.

确实挺有意思，上大学的时候，小睡变得特别重要。

Yeah, It's really funny how when you're in college, napping takes on a whole new level of importance.

不过我学校里好像没这风气。

At least it didn't on my campus.

我觉得那时候同学们经常小睡，也总在聊小睡。

I feel like kids napped a lot in college and talked about napping a lot in college.

是啊。

Yeah.

成年后就没那么频繁了，但偶尔还是能偷个懒打个盹。

Less so in adult life, but we still get to grab a nap once in a while.

今天我们就来好好聊聊这些，不过在那之前，我想特别感谢一下在Spotify上留下评论和评分的几位朋友。

So we're gonna get into all this today and how to talk about it, but I wanna call out a couple of people that left comments and reviews over on Spotify and just say a huge thank you.

感谢Saddam Mode。

So thank you to Saddam Mode.

谢谢Eins。

Thank you to Eins.

谢谢Giriardi，也谢谢Tony Souza 17。

Thank you to, Giriardi, and thank you to Tony Souza 17.

这些都是听众花时间写下留言、打分和评论的。

These are all listeners who took the time to go and write a message, left a rating and review.

无论你在哪儿听，都给我们的节目打个分、写个评价，告诉我们你的想法。

Wherever you listen, rate our show, review our show, Tell us what you think about the show.

好吗？

Alright?

当然。

Definitely.

好的。

Alright.

非常感谢。

Thank you so much.

那我们先来学一些关键词汇，然后再做一些互动问题。

So let's go into so we're gonna do some key vocab, and then we're gonna do some connection questions, basically.

好的。

Okay.

这是第一个问题。

So, this is the first one.

Lindsay，你昨天小睡了三十分钟，醒来的时候是立刻感觉精神了，还是觉得昏昏沉沉的？

So when you took that nap yesterday, Lindsay, the thirty minute nap, did you wake up and did you feel refreshed right away or did you feel groggy?

是的，我觉得那不算真正的午睡，因为我根本没完全睡着。

Yeah, I guess it wasn't a proper nap because I never fully fell asleep.

我只是闭上眼睛，放松了一下。

I just kind of closed my eyes and relaxed.

不过我白天小睡后，通常都会觉得昏沉沉的。

But like, I do tend to feel groggy after I nap during the day.

所以我就干脆不睡了。

That's why I usually don't do it at all.

就是因为在小睡之后感觉不太好。

Just because of the way you feel after.

‘昏昏沉沉’这个词用得挺贴切的。

So groggy is a good is a good word.

昏昏沉沉的感觉是怎样的？

What does it feel like to be groggy?

觉得昏昏沉沉，就是整个人有点懵。

To be groggy, you just feel like out of it.

对。

Yeah.

也可以说人有点懵。

You could also say out of it.

就是感觉提不起精神。

You just don't feel.

对。

Yeah.

你有点迷糊。

You're like a little confused.

感觉不舒服。

Don't feel good.

其实也没觉得特别累。

You don't feel feel more tired really.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yes.

有点脱离现实的感觉。

A little disconnected from earth.

对。

Right.

我总觉得好像是第二天了。

I always feel like it's the next day.

你也有这种感觉吗？

Like, do you have that?

真的吗？

I feel like really?

明明都发生在同一天，可我总觉得特别奇怪。

Like this was all in the same day, but I feel it's just so funny.

是的。

Yeah.

这感觉跟我看完一场白天的电影走出来时差不多。

It's a little bit of the same feeling I get when I walk out of a movie, like a daytime movie.

突然间，光线打在身上。

It's like, oh, the light hits you.

你就会愣一下。

You're like, wait.

现在是白天？

It's daytime?

今天到底是几号啊？

What what day is it?

现在是第几周了？

What week is it?

我完全懵了，一点方向都没有。

I'm totally confused and lost.

是的。

Yeah.

所以你想找个完美的午睡时间，醒过来刚好精神饱满，这词儿用得真好。

So I it's hard to hit that sweet spot when you nap to where you just wake up feeling refreshed, which is another great word.

对。

Mhmm.

而且我觉得很多人都睡醒后昏昏沉沉的。

It's kinda and I feel like a lot of people wake up groggy.

而且确实如此。

And Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

我经常遇到这种情况，一醒来就昏昏沉沉的，感觉快不行了，特别难受，但大概半小时后，才慢慢体会到小睡带来的好处。

A lot of times what happens to me is I will wake up groggy and I feel like I'm going to die and I'm like this is not a good feeling and then maybe in half an hour later then I start to feel the benefits of what I had done.

不过刚开始确实挺难受的。

But it's not good at first.

刚开始确实不好受。

It's not good at first for sure.

我特别高兴今天我们聊到这个话题，因为我知道世界各地的听众中，小睡是很多文化的一部分，比如午休。

I'm also excited we're talking about this today because I know our listeners around the world, napping is a part of different cultures, siesta.

没错。

That's true.

对吧？

Right?

很多文化都有午休的习惯。

And many cultures have a siesta period.

也许在城市里这种做法越来越少了，但我记得去西班牙北部的时候，中午十二点到三点整个城市都停摆了。

Maybe it's becoming less and less common in the cities, but I know when I visited places like Northern Spain, everything is shut down between what, like twelve and three.

所以我们的听众里，肯定还有不少人保持着每天午睡的习惯，尤其是在不同文化中。

So some of our listeners are still really enjoying daily naps, I'm sure, in different cultures.

对吧？

Right?

尤其是在气候炎热的地区。

Especially in hotter cultures.

这非常重要。

So this is huge.

这真的很重要。

This is huge.

确实如此。

Definitely.

说到‘groggy’这个词，拼写是 G-R-O-G-G-Y，你可能会听到有人说：‘我睡了大概二十分钟。’

So for the word groggy, G R O G G Y, you might hear, I slept for about twenty minutes.

我现在还有点昏昏沉沉的，不过很快就会清醒过来。

I'm groggy right now, but I'll perk up soon.

对，就是这样。

Yeah, exactly.

‘groggy’这个词真的很关键，一定要掌握。

So groggy is a really important word to know.

这就像睡醒后的醉酒感，对吧？

It's a bit of a sleep hangover, right?

没错，这个说法挺贴切的，

Yeah, that's a good way to And put

那小睡或者快速小憩特别有用，我们说要小睡一会儿的时候，到底想表达什么呢？

then cat nap or power nap is really good because what are we trying to say when we're saying we're gonna take a cat nap or a power nap?

就是给自己安排一个能提神的短睡，让你恢复精力，而且时间很短。

You're gonna give yourself a nap that gives you power, that gives you that and it's a fast.

甚至可能只要十五分钟就够了。

It's not like it could even be fifteen minutes.

你不会把三小时的睡觉叫做小憩或者快速打个盹吧。

It's not you don't say power nap or cat nap about a three hour nap.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yes.

当然。

Absolutely.

就是短暂地休息一下，然后你暗示自己醒过来会状态更好。

It's just a light one and then you're implying that you're going to be better off after.

对吧？

Right?

比如我会小睡一会儿，好撑过剩下的白天。

So for example, I'm going to take a quick power nap to get me through the rest of the day.

今晚得熬到很晚了。

It's going to be a long night.

对啊。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

然后就会彻底垮掉。

And then there's crash.

就是你累到不行，直接就睡着了。

That's when you're so tired, you just fall asleep.

没错。

So Yes.

对啊。

Mhmm.

午饭后我会试着休息一下。

After lunch, I try to take a rest.

我头一沾枕头就直接睡着了。

As soon as I as my head hits the pillow, I just crash.

是的。

Yeah.

这在口语里是形容睡着的常用说法。

This is a really common slangy way to talk about falling asleep.

对吧？

Right?

说‘睡死’。

To crash.

我昨晚十点半就睡了，比原计划早了一点。

I crashed last night at 10:30 a little earlier than I was planning to.

对吧？

Right?

这种说法在我们日常用语里到处都是。

I mean, it's everywhere in our language.

这是睡觉的一种很口语的说法。

A very slangy way to say go to sleep.

差不多就是这个意思。

Basically.

是的， definitely。

Yeah, definitely.

Lindsay，你小睡的时候，通常都能睡着吗？

Lindsay, so when you nap, do you normally fall asleep?

你是故意想小睡一会儿吗？

Are you trying to nap?

昨天你是打算好要小睡，还是不知不觉就睡着了？

Yesterday, were you like, okay, I'm going to take a nap or does it just kind of happen?

要是我能给出答案就好了。

Wish I had answers.

说实话，我很少小睡。

I'm not much of a napper, to be honest.

我其实不太午睡，因为上大学那会儿大家都睡，我也跟着睡。

I really don't nap very much because I mean, I was a napper in college because everyone was napping.

那时候大学里午睡成了一种风气，宿舍里大家熬夜，白天就得补觉。

That was like part of the culture in college because kids would stay up late in the dorm life.

就是顺其自然地睡一会儿。

You just napped.

那是大学生活的一部分。

It was part of your life in college.

但说实话，当了大人以后，我就很少午睡了。

But I I don't really nap as an adult that much, to be honest.

你呢，米歇尔？

What about you, Michelle?

我的意思是

I mean

我现在会午睡，但以前根本睡不着。

Now I do, but I used to not be able to.

我朋友刚跟我说，因为我最近能快速睡个二十分钟的午觉，我就跟他说了，结果他说他根本做不到。

I mean, yeah, my friend just told me, oh, because I was able to take a quick twenty minute nap recently and I told my friend and he said, I can't do that.

二十分钟算什么。

Gonna, twenty minutes is nothing.

你知道吗，我以前要花好久才能睡着。

Know, it takes so long to fall asleep.

最近我睡得快多了，不过现在又没那么快了。

Lately I've been able to sleep faster and now not so much.

对我来说，最长的午觉时间是在车里，不是开车的时候，是坐在副驾驶座上。

Like the biggest nap time for me is if I'm riding in the car, not when I'm driving, when I'm in the passenger seat.

因为那种晃动特别容易让人犯困。

Because it's all that motion.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

And Yeah.

我孩子也是，我知道很多家长都有过这种经历。

With my kids even if, you know, that's how I mean, I'm sure a lot of parents can relate to this.

要是孩子不肯午睡，怎么也睡不着，你多半会干脆带他上车兜一圈。

If your child won't nap, if your child won't fall asleep, you probably put them in the car and drive them around.

而且这一点

And that

我确实也遇到过这种情况。

does I've the that.

是的，我听说过这种说法。

Yeah, I've heard that.

对我来说，只有在之前一整晚没睡好之后，才容易补个觉。

For me, it's always like the nap will happen if I'm recovering from a time when I couldn't sleep.

现在每次飞越大西洋去欧洲，那趟本该好好睡觉的夜间航班，我反而怎么都睡不着。

Every time I fly across The Atlantic to Europe these days, I cannot sleep the overnight flight where you're supposed to sleep.

所以接下来总会有个短途航段，比如从慕尼黑飞斯洛文尼亚，或者慕尼黑飞意大利之类的。

And so there's and then there's always like a, you know, Munich to Slovenia or Munich to Italy, whatever.

总有一段特别短的航班，大概一个半小时左右。

There's always a tiny flight that's like an hour and a half.

对。

Yeah.

我在这类航班上能小睡一会儿，但醒来后反而更难受。

I'll nap on that flight and I'll feel awful when I wake up.

对。

Yeah.

这方法不对劲。

It's the wrong way.

身体根本搞不清状况，因为夜间飞行时屏幕太晃眼了。

It's like the body doesn't know what because the screens are really distracting at night on that overnight Yeah.

大西洋航线上的夜间飞行。

Atlantic flight.

总会有那么一个人把灯关了。

And there's always that one person turning the light off.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

太离谱了。

It's crazy.

我通常都在不该睡、也不想睡的时候打盹。

So usually my naps happen more at times when I probably shouldn't be napping or don't want to be napping.

你懂的。

You know?

是的。

Yeah.

有时候我就觉得，要是睡一觉，反而会比不睡更难受。

Because sometimes I I remember feeling like, I'm gonna feel actually worse if I nap than if I don't nap.

这种情况也会发生。

So that can happen too.

这挺有意思的。

That's interesting.

没错。

Totally.

对。

Yeah.

真的很有趣。

Really interesting.

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好的。

All right.

这显然是一项非常重要的沟通技巧。

So this is obviously a huge connection skill.

人都需要睡觉。

Human beings need sleep.

我们都是普通人。

We are all human here.

所以我们可以从最基本的人类需求上找到共鸣。

So we can connect on our, like, the basic human needs.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

而且说到这个能拉近距离的话题，你看——

So And I mean, as far as it being a connection topic, look.

你跟我分享说，你现在不午睡了，但上大学的时候会，这就能引出一大段关于大学生活的讨论，有太多可以聊的了，但这些确实都是很好的开场话题。

Like, you're sharing with me, okay, I don't nap now, in in college, you know, and then that could lead us into a whole another, you know, conversation about college and So what it was there's so much there, but there are kind of starter questions here.

所以，Lindsay，你能问的一个问题是啥？

So Lindsay, what's one thing you can ask?

我可以问你，你平时能小睡一会儿吗？

Yeah, I mean I can ask you, are you able to take naps?

就像我说的，不是所有成年人都有时间或者有能力小睡，对吧？

Because like I said, we said not all adults are able to or do or make the time for it, right?

你甚至可以直接问：你是爱小睡的人吗？

Or you could even say, are you a napper?

你是爱小睡的人吗？

Are you a napper?

就是那种会小睡的人。

That's a person who takes naps.

不过有些回答可能是：我睡不着，或者我真想睡，又或者我一有空就小睡。

But yeah, some answers might be, oh I can't nap or I wish I could or yes I nap whenever I can.

对。

Yeah.

你能在户外小睡一会儿吗？

Are you able to nap outdoors?

比如躺在吊床上，或者在沙滩上睡？

Like do you nap in hammocks, on the beach?

说不准，就是你在外头的时候，能睡得着吗？

Don't know, like when you're outside, are you able to nap?

米歇尔？

Michelle?

好问题。

Good question.

等夏天我多在外面活动时再告诉你，不过目前我觉得自己不太会。

I will let you know when I am outside more in the summer, but no, I don't think as much.

我多半是窝在沙发上，但在车里倒是有可能。

Think I'm on the couch, but in the car, that's

对，车里确实是小睡的最佳地点。

the Okay, in the car is the sweet spot for that.

对，没错。

Yes, exactly.

那我再问一个问题。

So and then here's another question.

你一般睡多久？

How long do you nap for?

明白。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

在日常口语里，很多人可能会说，句尾用‘four’听起来不太规范。

And here, know, in casual English, a lot of grammarians might say we don't like that four at the end Four.

就是那个‘Yep’结尾的。

Of that Yep.

但我们不在意，因为这是口语嘛。

But we don't mind it because this is verbal English.

这是口语表达。

This is spoken English.

人们就这么说。

People say it.

这是人与人之间的连接。

This is human connection.

好的。

Okay.

这正是《All Ears English》的目标。

So that's the goal in All Ears English.

我们在这里并不是要当特别死板的语法规则派。

We are not trying to be super strict grammarians here.

我们会教语法，但始终更看重交流而非语法完美。

We're going to teach you grammar, but we're always going to favor connection over grammar perfection.

对吧？

Right?

所以我们教你的，都是我们平时怎么说的。

So we're going to teach you what we say.

因为你不可能遇到一个母语者，然后聊天时问：'你午睡多久？'

Because you're not going to run into a native speaker and you're just having a conversation and you say how long do you nap for?

人家会一脸惊讶：'啊？'

They're like, really?

'多久？'

For?

对啊。

Yeah.

他们根本听不懂你这么问。

They're not going know.

没错。

Exactly.

咱们在这儿学的，都是特别实用的英语。

Very practical English we're learning over here.

所以，米歇尔，如果我问你你通常午睡多久，你会怎么回答？

So how would you answer this if I ask you Michelle, how long do you nap for?

你可能会说，哦，我就小睡一会儿，或者一般睡十分钟、二十分钟，或者一个小时，对吧？

You might say something like, Oh, I just take a quick power nap or I usually nap for about ten minutes, twenty minutes or an hour, right?

对的。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

然后你睡醒之后会觉得精神焕发吗？

And then do you feel refreshed when you wake up?

没错。

Right.

这也是我们可能会问的另一个问题。

That's another question we might ask.

是的。

Yeah.

如果你真的对午睡上了瘾，那可能你是在学着怎么当个成年人还能好好午睡。

If you're really getting into this napping thing, maybe you're trying to learn how to nap as an adult.

对吧？

Right?

你可以说，我醒过来感觉好多了，或者我醒过来还是昏昏沉沉的。

So you could say something like, oh, I wake up and I feel much better or I wake up pretty groggy.

是的。

Yeah.

你也可以问，你有没有在最奇怪的地方睡过觉？

The or you could also ask what's the craziest place you've ever taken a nap?

对我来说，肯定是在博物馆里。

For me, it was definitely in a museum.

我最近好像就在博物馆睡了一觉，可能是在斯洛文尼亚，或者欧洲的某个地方。

I think I took a nap in a museum recently in maybe it was Slovenia or somewhere in Europe.

那是刚跨大西洋飞行完之后的事。

It was after, you know, the Cross Atlantic flight.

对吧？

Right?

刚到欧洲的那天，你总会想撑着不睡一整天。

It's that first day when you if you go to Europe, you try to stay up all day.

你

You

通常早上九点或十点落地。

usually land around 10AM or 9AM.

我们从丹佛、从东海岸出发的话，落地时间可能更早。

What we do from Denver, from the East Coast, you might land even earlier.

我不太确定。

I'm not sure.

但你千万别做的一件事就是马上去睡觉。

And then you don't like the thing you shouldn't do is go to bed.

对吧？

Right?

所以你得想个办法撑完整整一天不睡觉。

So you have to find a way to stay awake that whole day.

我们通常会安排个美食之旅，或者到处走走逛逛。

We usually try to book like a food tour, like tours or moving.

哦，这主意不错，不过这次我们去了博物馆，我居然在那儿看展览时打起了瞌睡，还坐在第一排，我觉得旁边的人可能都在笑我。

Oh, that's a good But I think this time we went to a museum and I definitely I was watching a movie in the museum and I kind of nodded off in the front row and I think people were laughing at me actually.

是的。

Yeah.

那你呢？

So what about you?

你遇到过最奇怪的……

What's the

说到这个，我想起我嫂子，记得我二十出头住在纽约的时候，他们来探望我，我嫂子居然在酒吧里睡着了。

case Well that makes me think of, well I am thinking of my sister-in-law because I remember when I lived in New York, I mean when I was in my early twenties and they came to visit me and my sister-in-law fell asleep in a bar.

太离谱了。

That's crazy.

有人走过来，以为她喝醉了，是吧？

Somebody came over because they thought she was really drunk, right?

但她根本没醉。

But she wasn't.

她就是比我们其他人更容易犯困。

Just falls asleep earlier than the rest of us.

那倒不是小睡，更像是她一有机会就想直接躺下过夜。

It wasn't so much a nap, think it was like she was down for the night if she could have been.

真有意思。

Funny.

晚上九点还在酒吧，人家就过来提醒她不能睡在这里，以为她

This is like nine at night in the bar and they're like you can't sleep in here because they think you're

以为她喝醉了。

They think you're drunk.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我印象中她就是这样。

That's what I remember from her.

不过，确实。

But, yeah.

所以那个

So that that

挺有意思的。

was funny.

这个真不错。

That's a good one.

这个真不错。

That's a good one.

在酒吧里睡着了。

Falling asleep in a bar.

挺喜欢的。

Like it.

是的。

Yeah.

好的，米歇尔。

Alright, Michelle.

很明显，这是个关于联结的话题。

So clearly this is a connection topic.

我们喜欢这个，因为我们都爱睡觉。

We're enjoying this because we both like we both sleep.

对吧？

Right?

所以我们有这个共同点。

So we have that in common.

就像天气一样。

It's like the weather.

你知道吗，有时候你真的可以顺着这个话题聊得很远，就像你说的，米歇尔，把它当成一个跳板，引向其他更有趣的话题。

You know, you can actually get pretty far sometimes and you can use it as, you said Michelle, a branching off topic, a jumping to off get into other areas that might be more interesting.

那我们来做个角色扮演吧。

So let's look at a little role play here.

来吧。

Here we go.

咱们现在是朋友，正在吃午饭。

Here we are friends and we're at lunch.

我今天真的好累。

I just feel so tired.

那你有办法小睡一会儿吗？

Well are you able to nap?

也许你回家后可以打个盹儿。

Maybe you can take a power nap when you get home.

我睡不着。

I can't nap.

我从来都睡不着。

I never fall asleep.

你还能小睡一会儿？

You can nap?

是的。

Oh yeah.

要是下午不小睡一会儿，到了晚上我就撑不住了。

If I don't nap in the afternoon, I crash by night.

那你一般睡多久？

Well how long do you nap for?

通常就十五分钟，打个盹儿而已。

Usually just a fifteen minute cat nap.

哇哦。

Oh wow.

那你睡完会感觉精神些吗？

So do you feel refreshed when you wake up?