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Hello.
我邻居整个上午都在用最大音量玩马里奥赛车。
My neighbor has been playing Mario Kart all morning at top volume.
真的,我今天早上的背景音乐就是马里奥赛车的音乐,太离谱了,因为邻居离我根本不近。
Like, the soundtrack of my morning this morning was Mario Kart music, which is crazy because my neighbor isn't even that close to me.
我是说,他们住得还挺远的。
Like, they're kind of far away.
你知道,我们中间隔着一整个院子,但早上九点我居然还能听到他们在用最大音量玩马里奥赛车。
You know, there's an entire yard between us, but yet somehow I can hear them play Mario Kart at nine in the morning at top volume.
真是要疯了。
I it's crazy.
我跟你说实话吧。
I'll be honest.
确实有点让人难受,但我觉得他们现在可能已经消停了。
It's been kind of awful, but I think that they might be done now.
好了,今天我们来聊聊抄袭这件事。
Anyway, today we're talking about copying.
关于抄袭,有趣的是大多数人一想到它,就觉得是坏事。
The interesting thing about copying is that most people, when they think of it, think that it's a bad thing.
他们觉得抄袭不好。
They think copying is bad.
但如果你深入探究抄袭这个概念,你会发现抄袭其实也可以是一件很了不起的事。
But if you investigate further into the concept of copying, you'll find that copying can actually be an incredible thing as well.
抄袭其实是个挺复杂的话题。
Copying is a complicated topic, actually.
所以今天我想聊聊这个,分享一下我对抄袭的看法——什么时候是好的,什么时候是坏的,什么时候有用,什么时候是恶意的,等等等等。
And so I wanted to talk about it today and discuss my philosophy on copying when it's good, when it's bad, when it's useful, when it's evil, etcetera, etcetera.
也许我们都能学到点什么。
And maybe we'll all learn something.
好吗?
Okay?
开始之前,我们先看看牛津词典对复制的定义。
Before we begin, let's look at the Oxford Dictionary's definition of copying.
复制就是制作一个相似或相同的版本,或者模仿某人的风格、行为。
To make a similar or identical version of to reproduce or to imitate the style Before or behavior of.
这个我们都知道。
We all knew that.
但我还是想读一下,确保我们理解一致,现在我们可以开始了。
But I just wanted to read it, make sure we're all on the same page, and now we can begin.
我觉得复制可以分成三种情况。
I think that copying can be three things.
首先,我们来讨论什么时候复制是邪恶的。
So first, let's discuss when copying is evil.
这是我们一想到复制就会想到的情况。
This is what we all think of when we think of copying.
关键特征就是。
The key characteristic.
当你直接复制某样东西,然后假装是自己的创意,并从中获利时,那就是邪恶的。
It's evil when you directly replicate something and then pretend it's your idea and then profit from it.
这就是复制变得邪恶的时候。
That is when copying is evil.
我们来举个例子。
Let's give an example.
有一天你在Instagram的探索页上,看到一个粉丝不多的服装设计师刚做了一件很酷的新夹克。
You're on your Instagram explore page one day, and you see a clothing designer who doesn't have a lot of followers just created a new cool jacket.
那是他们亲手缝制的。
They sewed it by hand.
完全是自己设计的。
They completely designed it themselves.
这个设计只有他们做过。
It's a design that only they have made.
它是独一无二的。
It is one of one.
那是他们的作品,但没人知道。
It is their thing, but no one knows about it.
这个人才十个粉丝。
This person has, like, 10 followers.
明白吗?
Okay?
他们才刚起步。
They're just getting started.
然后假设你是一个经验稍丰富点的服装设计师。
And then let's say you are a slightly more experienced clothing designer.
你有一万个粉丝,在网上卖衣服,做得还算成功,也挺有名气。然后你去偷了那个刚起步的设计师的作品。
You have 10,000 followers, and you sell your clothes online, and you're pretty successful, and you're relatively well known, and you go and you steal that design from that designer who is just starting out.
然后你说,这是我的设计。
And then you say, this is my design.
这时候的抄袭才是邪恶的。
That's when copying is evil.
当你从别人那里偷来一个想法,尤其是当对方条件不如你的时候。
When you steal an idea from someone else, especially if they have less of an advantage than you do.
可能他们刚起步,而你在这个行当里已经混得比较久了,之类的。
Maybe they're just starting out and you've been in the game for a little longer or something like that.
然后你靠他们的想法赚钱。
And then you profit off of their idea.
你不给他们功劳,也不告诉任何人,还说这是我的想法,是我自己脑袋里想出来的,这是我的创作。
And you don't give them credit, and you don't tell anyone, and you say this was my idea, and I came up with it out of my own noggin, and it's my creation.
这是我创造的,没人给我这个灵感。
I created this, and no one gave me the idea.
这是属于我的。
This is me.
我要给它注册商标。
I'm trademarking it.
它是我的。
It's mine.
这有点邪恶。
That's kind of evil.
我觉得最邪恶的部分是这里面有预谋。
I think the most evil part about it is that there was a scheme involved.
如果你抄袭别人,还不打算给人家署名,还想从中获利,那你就是有点算计了。
If you copy somebody with the intent of not giving them credit and of profiting off of it, You schemed a little bit.
这可不是偶然发生的。
It wasn't like this happened on accident.
你知道吗?
You know?
你清楚自己在做什么,那才是邪恶的。
You knew what you were doing, and that's when it's evil.
你看,抄袭就是完全复制某样东西的行为。
See, the thing is copying is the act of of perfectly replicating something.
对吧?
Okay?
在我用的这个例子里,那就是完全复制形状、颜色,或者颜色稍微变一下、形状稍微改一下,但基本上是一模一样的。
In this example that I'm using, that would be copying the exact shape, the exact color, or maybe a slightly different color or a slightly different shape, but it's pretty much the exact same.
你懂吧?
You know?
甚至都没想过去做点改变。
Not even trying to make it different.
听着。
Like, listen.
你可能会稍微加点东西,或者去掉一点。
You might add to it a little bit or take a little bit away from it.
你可能会稍微改一改。
You might change it a little bit.
但如果你把你的复制品和他们的原作放在一起对比,看起来几乎一模一样。
But if you were to put your copy in their original next to each other, they would look almost identical.
很明显,它们非常相似。
It would be obvious that they resemble each other heavily.
问题在于,这种方式的抄袭基本上就是偷窃。
The problem is is that copying in this way is basically stealing.
你知道吗?
You know?
而且这很偷偷摸摸。
And it's being sneaky.
这没有对最初创造那个概念或那个东西的人表现出同理心或尊重。
It's not having empathy or respect for the person who originally created that concept or that thing.
这是故意从别人那里偷一个想法,为了自己的利益,而且你知道自己在这么做。
It's intentionally stealing an idea from somebody for your own gain and knowing that you're doing it.
那时候,抄袭就是邪恶的。
That is when copying is evil.
当它像是一个预谋的计划时,它就是邪恶的。
It's evil when it's like a premeditated plan.
这种计划性本身就带有邪恶的成分。
There's something about this planning that's evil.
比如说,我要偷走这个好点子,把它变成我的,然后靠它赚钱。
Like, I'm gonna steal this really good idea, and I'm gonna make it mine, and I'm gonna profit off of it.
而那个人就会被甩在后面,看起来反而像在抄袭我。
And that person is gonna get left in the dust, and they're gonna look like they're copying me.
这种在脑子里盘算的过程,才是它如此恶劣的原因。
The planning of that in someone's head is what makes it so wrong.
因为还有一种抄袭,表面上看起来也很恶劣。
Because there's also a type of copying that's evil on the outside.
看起来是恶意的。
It looks evil.
感觉像是恶意的,但可能是无心之失。
It seems evil, but it might have been an accident.
比如,我生活中就有过几次,我确信某个想法是我自己脑子里冒出来的,就像凭空想出来的,我从来没见过,诸如此类。
For example, there have been times in my life when I have been convinced that I had come up with an idea out of my head, like, just pulled it out of my head, and it had never I've never seen it before, whatever.
结果发现,我其实是在潜意识里抄袭别人,因为我不记得曾经见过它。
And it turns out I was sub subconsciously copying somebody because I didn't remember ever seeing it.
它只是无意中进入了我的脑海。
It just entered my psyche on accident.
然后我以为是我自己想出来的。
And then I thought I had come up with the idea.
这种事以前也发生过。
And that's happened to me before.
所以我觉得我们不能忽视这样一个事实:有时候有人无意中抄袭了别人,并且从中获利。
And so I think we can't ignore the fact that there might be times when someone copies someone else on accident, and they're profiting off of it.
我觉得这种情况经常发生吗?
Do I think it happens very often?
不。
No.
我不这么认为。
I don't.
我觉得那要少见得多。
I think that's far less common.
但我认为确实偶尔会发生这种情况。
But I think it probably does happen every once in a while.
实际上这没那么恶劣,因为并没有恶意。
And that's a lot less evil in reality because the intent wasn't there.
没有那种预谋,就是‘我要偷这个想法,然后靠它赚钱’这回事。
The premeditation of, I'm gonna steal this idea, and then I'm gonna make money off of it.
就是说,那种情况没发生。
Like, that didn't happen.
所以接下来就要看那个不小心抄袭的人怎么去弥补了。
So then it's up to the person who copied on accident to make it right.
也许该给原创者应有的署名。
Maybe that's giving credit where it's due.
也许就是不卖或者不从那件不小心偷来的东西上获利。
Maybe that's, you know, not selling or profiting off of the thing that they stole on accident.
就是,反正具体怎么做看情况吧。
Like, whatever it may be.
他们发现自己无意中抄袭了别人之后的反应,才决定他们是否做了正确的事。
How they react once they find out they were a copycat on accident, that's what determines whether or not they did the right thing.
因为无意中抄袭别人或者什么东西,这种事难免会发生。
Because accidentally copying somebody or something, you can't this shit happens.
我举个例子,不涉及从别人那里获利,但我也说不准。
I'll give an example that doesn't include profiting off of anyone, but I don't know.
这就像是我无意中抄袭别人的一个例子。
It's just like an example of me copying someone on accident.
我记得有一次我穿了一套衣服,然后发到了Instagram上,就这样。
I remember one time I was wearing this outfit, and I posted it on Instagram, whatever.
然后我记得有人评论说,哦,你抄袭了某个人的穿搭。
And then I think I got a comment or something from someone saying, oh, you copied this other person out person's outfit.
我当时就想,什么?
And I was like, what?
或者说你看起来像那个人。
Or you look like this person.
我当时就想,什么?
And I was like, what?
然后我去看了他们的页面,我一看就想,天呐。
And I went and looked at their page, and I was like, oh my god.
我真的穿得几乎和那个人一模一样。
I am literally wearing almost the exact same outfit as this other person.
而且我之前其实根本没见过那个人穿那套衣服。
And I actually had never even seen this person wearing that outfit before.
我从来没见过。
I had never seen it.
甚至都不算是潜意识模仿。
It wasn't even like subliminally copying them.
我从来没看过那张图片。
I had never seen this image.
我从来没见那个人穿过那套衣服。
I had never seen this person wearing this outfit.
我这辈子都没见过。
I had never seen it in my life.
但我在他们发帖之后,发了自己穿几乎一模一样衣服的照片。
But I posted my photo of me wearing almost the exact same outfit after they posted theirs.
我发誓,我真的没见过他们穿那件衣服。
And I swear to God, I never saw them wearing it.
但现在看起来就像是我抄袭了他们。
But now it looks like I copied them.
但那是个意外。
But that was an accident.
那只是巧合。
That was just a coincidence.
你明白我的意思吗?
You see what I'm saying?
我觉得这种事情确实会发生。
And I think that stuff like that happens.
所以在外人看来可能很奇怪,会觉得,哦,她抄袭了。
And so it might seem weird to the outside world, like, oh, she copied.
随便吧。
Whatever.
但实际上呢,可能只是个意外。
When in reality, it's like, it might have been an accident.
这完全取决于那个人的意图,还有他们是否从中获利。
It all depends on what the intent of the person was, and also whether or not they're profiting from it.
因为在我刚才那个模仿那个女孩穿搭的场景里,首先,不,我没有。
Because in that scenario where I just copied that girl's outfit, it's like, well, number one, no, I didn't.
我想那只是个意外。
It was an accident, I guess.
然后第二,没有人从中获利。
And then number two, no one was profiting from it.
就是,没什么大不了的。
It was it was like, it's harmless.
所以其实那也没关系了。
So it didn't matter anyway.
你懂我的意思吧。
You see what I mean there.
但另一方面,很多时候,人们并不是完全照抄,而是吸取灵感,算是一种无心的模仿。
Now, on the other hand, a lot of times, people don't exactly copy, but instead they take inspiration, innocent copying.
看到别人的穿搭,心里就想:天啊,太好看了吧。
Seeing somebody else's outfit and thinking, ugh, that is so cute.
我要去照着那套衣服穿。
I'm gonna go copy that outfit.
那是无害的。
That's innocent.
为什么?
Why?
因为那是一种赞美。
Because it's just flattering.
在我看来,这就像是一种赞美。
It's like a compliment, in my opinion.
在某些情况下,这可能会让人感到沮丧。
It can be frustrating in certain scenarios.
比如说,你的朋友开始模仿你所有的穿搭。
Let's say your friend starts copying all of your outfits.
对。
Yeah.
那确实会让人烦。
That can get irritating.
别误会我的意思。
Don't get me wrong.
但与此同时,我仍然认为这是无害的,因为没有人受到伤害。
But at the same time, I still consider it innocent because no one's getting hurt.
你明白吗?
You know?
没有人靠这个赚钱。
Nobody's profiting off of this.
也没有人到处说这身打扮是我设计的。
Nobody's walking around claiming I came up with this outfit.
你懂吗?
You know?
我觉得某种程度上这没什么大不了的。
It's just it's just harmless, I guess, in a way.
无恶意的模仿也可以是照着别人的做法去学习。
Innocent copying could also be replicating what somebody else does in order to learn.
这点很重要。
Now this is huge.
因为在人生中,无论作为个人还是追求爱好的人,我们总会有需要模仿别人才能找到自己的时候。
Because as we grow in life as people or as hobby pursuers, there are gonna be times in our life when we need to copy in order to learn who we are.
比如说,假设你是个画家。
For example, let's say you are a painter.
刚开始学画画的时候,临摹名画可能会很有帮助。
It might be helpful when you first start painting to copy famous paintings.
自己试着画,这样才能学会怎么画。
Try to paint them yourself in order to learn how to paint.
这真的非常有用。
Like, that's extremely helpful.
就像逆向工程一样,通过拆解这幅画来学会像专业人士那样画画。
It's like reverse engineering this painting to teach yourself how to paint something like a professional.
你明白我的意思吗?
You see what I'm saying?
这真的特别有帮助。
That's extremely helpful.
或者比如说你在学乐器。
Or let's say you're learning learning how to play instruments.
弹一首著名又超棒的曲子,试着学会它,能让你学到很多关于演奏乐器的技巧。
Playing a song that's famous and amazing and trying to learn how to play that can teach you so much about how to play an instrument.
但更进一步,模仿你欣赏的人的个性特质,也能帮助你学会在社交中表现得更加成熟。
But taking it a step further, copying people's personality traits that you admire can also help you learn how to behave in a way socially that's maybe more mature.
比如说,假设你不太擅长跟人打招呼。
For example, let's say you have a hard time greeting people.
比如在外面遇到认识的人,你会觉得走过去打招呼很尴尬。
Like, when you see someone you know out and about, you feel awkward going and saying hi.
但有一天,你和朋友在一起,你的朋友很得体地处理了那种情况。
But then one day, you're with your friend, and your friend handles that type of situation gracefully.
你观察他们。
You watch them.
他们走到某人面前,就说,哦,嘿。
They go up to someone, and they just say, oh, hey.
很高兴见到你。
Good to see you.
比如,你在这里做什么?
Like, what are you doing here?
你明白吗?
You know?
然后你会觉得,哦,这样挺好的。
And you're like, oh, that's cool.
我就喜欢他们那样的做法。
Like, I like the way that they did that.
下次你需要跟人打招呼的时候,比如你在外面碰到认识的人,或者到了派对上看到熟人走进来,你知道自己该去打个招呼,但就是不知道该怎么开口。
And the next time you get into a situation where you need to go greet somebody, maybe you see someone you know out and about, or you're at a party and you see somebody you know walk in, and you know you need to say hi, but you're like, I don't really know how.
这时候你就可以学你朋友那样去做。
Well, now you can copy the way that your friend did it.
这样也是很有用的。
That's valuable as well.
要是不模仿那些我们在社交场合佩服的人,我们还能怎么做呢?
What would we do without copying the people that we admire socially in social situations?
正是这样,我们才学会并提升了自己的社交能力。
That's how we learn and develop our social skills.
我们一开始需要互相模仿,之后就能加入自己的风格了。
We need to copy each other in the beginning, and then eventually, we can put our own spin on it.
回到那个例子,比如你头几次需要去跟人打招呼,说“怎么样?”
So going back to that example, it's like, let's say the first few times you have to go and greet somebody and say, what's up?
你就模仿那个做得特别自然的朋友。
You copy your friend that did it so gracefully.
一开始几次,你完全照搬他们的做法。
So the first few times, you copy exactly what they did.
但慢慢熟悉了之后,你就会想:哦,我要加点自己的东西了,你明白吗?
But then you start to get comfortable with it, and you're like, oh, I'm gonna do my own spin on it, you know?
然后你就会慢慢形成自己的方式。
And then it becomes your own.
但我觉得,单纯模仿在开始的时候是有助于学习的。
But I think innocent copying is the type of copying that helps you learn.
比如模仿别人的穿搭,让自己慢慢适应不同的穿衣风格,然后再逐渐尝试更多自己本来不太敢尝试的东西。
Copying somebody's outfit so that you can start to get comfortable maybe dressing in a different way, and then eventually branching out and doing more things that are kinda out of your comfort zone.
但一开始就是模仿那种你觉得穿得对的人,那套衣服搭配得就是好。
But it started with copying somebody who you think did it right, did that outfit right.
然后你学着那个人玩来玩去,就会觉得,嘿,现在我可以更放心去试自己的风格了,因为模仿那个人让我心里踏实。
And then after playing around, you know, kinda copying that person, you're like, hey, now I feel more comfortable experimenting with my style because I felt safe copying that person.
因为那人穿那套衣服的时候看起来特别酷。
Because when they wore this outfit, they looked cool.
而我从来不会自己选这种衣服,因为它超出我的舒适范围,或者我根本不觉得会这么穿。
And I would have never chosen that outfit myself because it is out of my comfort zone or it's something I never even thought of.
但现在我模仿了一点之后,我感觉能自己去拓展,做自己的事情,再加上自己的特色了。
But now that I copied them a little bit, now I feel comfortable going and branching out and doing my own thing and taking my own spin on it.
我觉得只要你是在用模仿来学习,那模仿就是有价值的。
I think copying is valuable as long as you're using it to learn something.
而且,你也并没有跟任何人说那是你自己的创意。
And, also, you're not claiming to anyone that's it's your idea.
就像有个人在你弹Tame Impala的歌的时候,走到你身边那样。
Like, if somebody were to come up to you when you're playing a Tame Impala song on the guitar.
对吧?
Okay?
如果你在弹吉他,弹的是Mac DiMarco的歌,或者随便什么,甚至是披头士的歌,有人走过来,说,天哪。
If somebody were to come up to you while you're playing a Mac DiMarco song on the guitar, whatever, a Beatles song even, and they're like, oh my god.
这是你的歌吗?
Is that, like, your song?
你写的吗?
Did you write that?
如果你说是,即使你没有从中赚钱,那也不好。
If you said yes, like, even though you're not profiting off of it or anything, that's still bad.
别那样做。
Don't do that.
但如果你说,哦,不是。
But if you're like, oh, no.
这是披头士的歌。
This is this Beatles song.
你懂吧?
You know?
而且我正在学弹吉他,所以我在试着学那首歌。
And I'm learning how to play guitar, so I'm I'm trying to learn that song.
然后他们就说,哦,不错。
And they were like, oh, cool.
那很酷。
That's awesome.
你知道,这时候模仿就是好事。
You know, that's when copying is good.
我不确定我刚才说的话有没有道理,但对我来说感觉真的很好。
I don't know if anything I just said made sense, but it felt really, really good for me.
但现在我们来谈谈模仿和汲取灵感之间的区别。
But now let's talk about the difference between copying and taking inspiration.
无意的模仿不包括从中获利。
Innocent copying doesn't include profiting off of anything.
对吧?
Right?
没有人会假装别人的想法是自己的来赚钱。
Nobody's making money pretending that an idea that was somebody else's was theirs.
这只是为了更好地了解自己。
It's just an attempt to learn more about you.
你明白吗?
You know?
没人受伤。
It's not no one's getting hurt.
一切都好。
Everything's fine.
没有人被偷窃。
Nobody's being stolen from.
这只是单纯无害的。
It's just innocent.
但当我们开始谈论借鉴灵感时,事情就变得复杂了。
But it gets complicated when we start talking about taking inspiration.
因为从某样东西中获取灵感不是抄袭,但两者非常接近。
Because taking inspiration from something is not copying, but it's very close.
获取灵感是拿一样东西,然后加上你自己的创意。
Taking inspiration is taking something and adding your own spin to it.
理论上,如果你从某样东西中获取灵感,加上自己的创意,然后进行足够的修改,让它完全变成你自己的,最终应该会创造出与原作完全不同的东西。
In theory, taking your own spin on something, looking at something, taking it as inspiration, and then adding to it and changing it enough to make it fully your own should, in theory, create something that's unrecognizable to the original.
比如,如果你把它们放在一起,它们看起来会非常不同。
Like, if you were to put them next to each other, they look pretty fucking different.
你不会觉得,哦,这是不是个找不同游戏,我在看它们是不是有一个不同的拉链之类的?
You're not like, oh, is this a spot the difference game where I'm trying to figure out if one of them has a different zipper or something?
当然不是。
Like, no.
它们应该看起来不一样。
They should look different.
因为如果它们看起来一样,那就是抄袭了。
Because if they look the same, then that's copying.
但我们现在说的是借鉴,也就是说你得改得足够多,让它看起来不像是原物的微调版。
But we're talking about taking inspiration, which means that you have to change it enough that it doesn't look like a slightly different version of the inspiration object itself.
对吧?
Right?
不管那是什么东西。
Whatever that thing is.
借鉴灵感,从中创造出新东西,然后卖掉或从中获利,这完全合理。
Taking inspiration and creating something new from that inspiration and then selling it or profiting from it is totally fair.
事实上,如果我们不能这么做,我们就什么都不会有。
In fact, if we couldn't do that, we wouldn't have anything.
几乎所有东西都是基于某种灵感创造出来的,这些灵感来自某人的脑海。
Pretty much all things were created with an inspiration of some sort in the back of somebody else's head.
很少有人能凭空想出一个点子,没有任何灵感,完全从无到有。
Like, it's very rare that somebody just comes up with an idea out of their head that has no inspiration, that just came from nowhere.
这种事从来不会发生。
Like, that doesn't happen ever.
我其实不知道这种事到底有没有发生过。
I don't actually know if that ever happens.
人们可能觉得这种事发生在自己身上,但实际上并没有。
People might think that it's happened to them, but it doesn't.
比如,要产生一个想法,你总得有个起点。
Like, in order to have an idea, you have to have a starting point of some sort.
所有被创造出来的东西都有某种灵感来源。
All things that are created have some sort of inspiration.
这个想法总得有个开始的地方。
It had to like, the idea had to start somewhere.
没有艺术、服装、科技、家具、菜谱,甚至笑话。
No art, no clothing, no technology, furniture, no recipes, no jokes.
没有从某个地方来的灵感,一切都将不复存在。
Nothing would exist without inspiration from somewhere.
从别人那里汲取灵感是至关重要的。
Taking inspiration from things is crucial.
如果你是靠创作赚钱的人,不管你做的是实物、电视剧、播客,还是别的什么,任何靠创作赚钱的人都得确保自己要么是在参考并且完全注明出处,要么就是用一种尊重原创意的方式来借鉴。
And if you are somebody who profits off of creating things, you know, whether that's an object or it's a TV show or it's a podcast, whatever it is, anyone who profits from creating something has to make sure that they're either copying and giving full credit, or they're taking inspiration in a way that is respectful to the original person that they took the idea from.
你懂我意思吧?
Do you know what I mean?
你要么完全标注出处,要么把它改得足够多,跟原版有很大区别才行。
You either have to give full credit or you have to change it enough where it's different from the original, like, very different from the original.
问题就在于,这个界限真的很模糊。
The problem is is that it's just such a fine line.
借鉴和恶意抄袭,可以说非常接近。
Taking inspiration and evil copying, if you will, they're so close to each other.
它们简直随时都可能变成一回事。
Like, they are constantly on the verge of being the same thing.
但又不一样。
It's but, also, they're not.
一种很快就能变成另一种。
One can so quickly become the other.
那让我们看看眼前的情况。
So let's look at what we have here.
对吧?
Okay?
我们有恶意抄袭、无意抄袭和借鉴灵感这三种。
We have evil copying, innocent copying, and taking inspiration.
那我们就深聊一下无意抄袭吧。
Let's dig a little bit deeper into innocent copying.
因为即使是无意的,有时候也真的会让人恼火。
Because even though it is innocent, it can still sometimes be fucking annoying.
举个例子,你每天到学校都穿一套衣服。
For example, let's say every day when you show up to school, you wear an outfit.
对吧?
Okay?
而且又酷又时髦,你花了差不多一个小时才挑出来,感觉就像是你的风格。
And it's cool and it's chic and you spent, like, an hour picking it out, and it's like, so you.
你知道吗?
You know?
就像是你的标志。
It's like your thing.
就像是你的自我表达。
It's like your expression.
对吧?
Right?
然后第二天,你朋友穿着你前一天穿的那套衣服来上学。
And then the next day, your friend comes to school and copies that outfit that you wore the day before.
一开始你可能会觉得这还挺受宠若惊的,但如果他们开始每天都这样做呢?
At first, this might be flattering, but let's say they start doing it every day.
你明白吗?
You know?
你某天穿了一身衣服。
You wear an outfit one day.
第二天他们到学校,也穿着那身衣服。
The next day they show up to school, they're wearing that outfit.
就是,直接照搬。
Like, they copy it.
然后这种事反复发生,一次又一次,而且他们从来不去发展自己的风格。
And this continues to happen over and over and over and over again, and they never branch off and start doing their own thing.
这不像是因为受了你的启发,偶尔模仿你几次,玩玩看看。
It wasn't like a few times they copied you just to kinda play around with what you're doing because they're inspired by it.
这已经变成更深层的东西了。
It becomes something a little bit deeper than that.
感觉他们甚至不是想从你那些很酷的做法里学点什么,而是有点想变成你。
It's like they're not even trying to maybe learn from the cool stuff that you're doing, but instead, they just wanna be you in a way.
就是他们太喜欢你做的这些了,以至于想成为你,照着你的方式做,因为这样比自己去摸索要做自己的事情容易多了。
Like, they just like what you're doing so much that they just kinda wanna be you and just do what you're doing because it's easier than maybe branching off and doing their own thing.
听我说。
Now listen.
这是无害的吗?
Is this innocent?
当然是。
Absolutely.
是无害的。
It's innocent.
有人受到伤害吗?
Is anyone getting hurt?
没有。
No.
我是说,你可能会为此烦心,但没人真的受到伤害。
I mean, you might be frustrated about it, but no one's getting hurt.
但与此同时,也有点让人难受,因为你会觉得自己的身份好像被偷走了。
But at the same time, it is kind of upsetting because you're like, I feel like my identity is being stolen.
你知道吗?
You know?
但是,我又能怎么办呢?
But, also, what can I do about it?
因为她们一直模仿我,其实还挺受宠若惊的,你知道,她们欣赏我所做的,这很贴心,但同时,我又很郁闷。
Because it is kinda flattering that they're copying me all the time and, you know, they admire what I'm doing, and that's sweet, but at the same time, I'm frustrated.
这可能会变成一个问题。
That can become an issue.
或者也许你的朋友开始模仿你所有的口头禅。
Or maybe your friend starts copying all of your sayings.
比如说,你知道,你有一些可爱的小俏皮话,你喜欢随口说出来。
Like, let's say, you know, you have cute little one liners that you like throwing around.
就像,好吧。
Like, alright.
再见。
See you.
就像,那成了你的标志性动作。
Like, that becomes your thing.
那是你的新招牌。
That's your new thing.
你的新招牌就是,比如每次你跟一群人告别的时候,你会说,好吧。
Your new thing is, like, whenever you're saying goodbye to a group of people, you're like, alright.
再见。
See you.
那就成了你的标志。
That becomes your thing.
然后你的朋友来了,也开始学你,说,好吧。
And then your friend comes in and starts being like, alright.
再见。
See you.
一开始,你会觉得,好吧。
And at first, you're like, okay.
没关系。
It's fine.
他们只是偷了那个小短语,我能理解,因为那确实挺有传染性的。
They just stole that one thing, and I get it because it's kind of a contagious little saying.
但一周后,你开始告诉所有朋友,我现在迷上海军蓝了。
But then a week later, you start telling all of your friends, I'm obsessed with navy blue right now.
海军蓝是这个季节的颜色。
Navy blue is the color of the season.
我买的衣服全是海军蓝的。
All of the clothing I'm buying is navy blue.
然后你朋友就说,等等。
And then your friend is like, wait.
我也是。
Me too.
我一直都只穿海军蓝。
I've only been wearing navy blue.
然后就慢慢变成好像我朋友在复制我所有的观点和我那些口头禅。
And it just starts to become something where it's like, my friend is copying all of my opinions, all of my little sayings.
他们在各方面都在模仿我。
They're socially imitating me in every way.
这种情况有时候会发生。
This happens sometimes.
那也挺让人难受的。
That can be awful as well.
再说一次,这没有恶意,但让人不太舒服。
Again, it's innocent, but it's uncomfortable.
我会把这种模仿称为——让人不舒服但又没有恶意的模仿。
I would characterize this sort of copying as uncomfortable yet innocent copying.
明白吗?
Okay?
这不带恶意,其实还挺可爱的,因为这么做的人是真的欣赏你,想变得跟你一样。
It's innocent, and it's sweet because it's like whoever is doing this really admires you and wants to be like you.
但与此同时,对被模仿的人来说,这仍然可能让人很烦,因为他们会觉得,我想有自己的东西。
But at the same time, it can still be frustrating for the person who's being copied because they're like, I wanna have my own thing.
我想让这成为我自己的东西。
I want this to be my thing.
我不希望,你知道,这个人把我所有的原创或个人的想法、观点、口头禅,或者我的穿搭选择,全都偷走,诸如此类。
I don't want, you know, this person to be stealing all of these original or personal ideas that I have or opinions that I have or sayings that I have or fashion choices that I make, whatever.
我们就是喜欢觉得自己是独立的个体。
It just, like, we like to feel like individuals.
所以当别人开始模仿我们太多的时候,就会变得不舒服。
And so when people start to copy us too much, it can become uncomfortable.
而这一切都可以通过一次对话来解决。
And all of it can be fixed through a conversation.
你知道吗?
You know?
你可以直接说,听着。
You can just say, listen.
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我觉得有点奇怪。
I feel weird.
我觉得你好像在模仿我的一切。
I feel like you're kinda copying everything.
这种对话很难开口。
That's a hard conversation to have.
说实话,我都不知道该怎么开口。
I don't even know how I'd have that conversation, to be honest.
我是说,这大概是我第一次不知道该怎么进行这样的对话。
I mean, I guess you could be like, this is, like, one of the first times I've ever been stumped about how I would approach a conversation like that.
你知道我会怎么做吗?
You know what I would do?
我可能根本不会和那个人谈这件事。
I might not even have a conversation about it with the person.
我可能会稍微保持距离,从这段友谊中退一步。
I might just distance myself in a way and just step back from the friendship a little bit.
现在我们来聊聊模仿别人的情况。
Now let's talk about when we copy people.
好吗?
Okay?
因为这确实会发生。
Because that happens.
我觉得意识到自己是否做得过头,这是非常重要的。
I think it's really good to be aware of whether or not we're taking it too far.
你懂吗?
You know?
就像我之前说的,模仿别人可以成为学习、成长和进步的一个绝佳方式。
As I said earlier, copying other people can be an incredible way to learn and grow and evolve.
但同时,你得经常自我反省,做做心灵体检。
But at the same time, you have to be doing mental checkups with yourself.
比如,好啦。
Like, okay.
我是不是做得太过分了?
Am I taking this too far?
你知道吗?
You know?
这是不是有点失控了?
Is this getting out of control?
就算我可能只是想简单模仿一下,但在过程中有没有打扰到别人?
Even though, you know, I might be innocent copying here, like, am I bothering anyone in the process?
该注明出处的时候,我有没有注明?
Am I giving credit where it's due when necessary?
你明白吗?
You know?
有没有让谁感到不自在?
Is this making anyone uncomfortable?
诸如此类,等等。
Etcetera, etcetera.
我以前不小心抄过别人。
I've copied people on accident before.
就像我之前说的,有一次我无意中和Instagram上那个女生穿了一模一样的衣服,挺奇怪的。
As I mentioned earlier, that one weird time when I accidentally wore the same outfit as that girl on Instagram.
而且那套衣服还挺特别的,所以更奇怪了。
And it was kind of a specific outfit too, which was kinda weird.
我也不知道怎么回事。
I don't know how it happened.
就是,说不上来。
Like, I don't know.
到现在这件事还让我挺在意的。
To this day, it, like, bothers me.
因为我真的非常努力不想抄袭任何人。
Because I really, really do my best to not copy anyone.
你知道吗?
You know?
所以这件事确实让我很在意,因为我不是故意的,我也不想让任何人觉得我是在模仿那个女孩的风格。
So it, like, it did bother it bothered me because I was like, I didn't mean to, and I don't want anyone to think that I was, like, trying to steal this girl's vibe.
你知道吗?
You know?
就,我,反正无所谓吧。
Like, I because whatever.
但这种事情就是会发生。
But this shit happens.
你知道吧?
You know?
不过我觉得关键在于你怎么应对。
But I think it is about how you react to it.
你打算怎么处理?
What do you do about it?
这就是我对抄袭这件事的深入分析。
That is my deep dive on copying.
好的、坏的、丑的,还有那些灰色地带。
The good, the bad, the ugly, and the gray areas.
你们怎么看?告诉我吧。
Let me know what you guys think.
老规矩,给我Instagram私信,账号是anything goes,或者推特上@ag podcast。
As always, send me a DM on Instagram at anything goes or tweet me at a g podcast.
你怎么看待抄袭这件事?
What's your opinion on copying?
你对此有什么感受?
How do you feel about it?
你有没有抄袭过别人,然后觉得不舒服?
Have you ever copied somebody and then felt weird about it?
你有没有被人抄袭,气到不行?
Have you ever been copied and it pissed you off?
说说你的故事吧。
Spill the beans.
感谢大家的收听。
And thank you guys for listening.
和往常一样,我非常感激你们所有人。
As always, I appreciate you all so much.
继续保持优秀,我们下周再聊。
And just keep being awesome, and I'll talk to you next week.
爱你们。
Love you.
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