Arsecast Extra 第678期 - 2026年1月26日

而且在那场比赛中还帮我们扳平了比分。

And and got us an equalizer in that game.

我只是觉得，如果你在找一个能进球的人，我知道他这个赛季在英超确实没怎么进球，但总体来说，他还是有进球的。

And I just feel like if you're looking for a goal, I know he hasn't really done it in the Premier League this season, but generally speaking, he's he's, you know, he scored.

他这个赛季的进球数快接近两位数了。

He's nearly in double figures for the season.

而当时，我们至少需要进一个球。

And at that point, we needed a goal, at least one goal.

所以我确实想知道，为什么左路不是马丁内利。

So I I did wonder why it wasn't Martinelli on the left.

让萨卡留在右路。

Keep Saka on the right hand side.

或者如果你一定要派上马杜埃凯，为什么不让他踢左路？

Or if you are gonna put Madueke on, why not play Madueke on the left?

不是为什么不让，而是做点让对手意想不到的事？

Not why not, like, do something that the opposition don't expect?

如果你要换四个球员，为什么不干脆让马杜埃凯踢左路，让他去冲刺，试着从不同角度拉伸比赛？

Do something that's a little bit if you're gonna make four subs, why the fuck not why put Madueke on the left and let him run and let him try and stretch the game in a different way.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我本来想问你，你觉得他换下萨卡，是因为边后卫那里发生了什么吗？

I was gonna ask you, do you think he felt the need to flip Saka because of what happened at fullback?

因为他现在让蒂姆伯在左后卫位置，他是不是觉得需要在前面安排一个左脚球员，来提供这一侧的宽度？

Because he now had Timber at left back, did he feel the need to have a left footer in front of him, someone who could offer width on

那一侧？

that side?

他们俩都是左脚球员，你知道，马杜埃凯是。

They're both left footers, you know, Madueke's

哦，是的，我的意思是，马杜埃凯上场完全有可能。

on Oh yeah, no, I mean it could well have been Madueke.

我不太清楚为什么马杜埃凯踢左路的安排完全消失了。

Quite why sort of Madoueke on the left has entirely gone away, I'm not sure.

因为你还记得季前赛时我们看到过他踢这个位置，很多人觉得他实际上是在老特拉福德那场比赛中替补登场并踢这个位置的。

Because you remember in pre season we saw it offended and a lot of people felt I think he came on at Old Trafford actually in that position.

而且很多人觉得我们会经常看到他在那个位置上出场。

And a lot of people felt we might see a lot of him there.

但这种情况并没有发生，我想是因为特罗萨德和马丁内利的状态有所提升，不过昨天蒂姆伯在左后卫位置上，或许正是启用他的时机。

It hasn't transpired I guess because of, you know, improvements in form from Trossard and Martinelli, but yeah, with Timber at left back yesterday might have been a time.

我的意思是，这招没奏效，对吧？

I mean it didn't work did it?

把萨卡换到另一边。

Switching Saker over.

问题就在这里，我能理解教练的难处，因为你试图做出改变、做出决策，如果成功了，哪怕有点运气成分，你也会获得大量赞誉；但如果失败了，你就会遭受大量批评。

This is the thing, I have sympathy with a manager because you're trying to change it and you're trying to make calls and if it comes off for you, even if there's a bit of fortune in that, you get a ton of credit and if it doesn't you get a lot of criticism.

但我确实觉得，我觉得在对阵森林队之后我就说过，关于球员之间的配合和默契，我总觉得米克尔在进攻端还没有找到正确的组合方式。

But I do just feel like there wasn't I think I said after the Forest game about the relationships and the combinations and not necessarily feeling like Mikkel knows the right the right formulas in his attack.

我不是说他手里的选择太少，那样说简直太荒谬了。

I'm not saying he's got too many options at his disposal, think that would be sort of crazy to say.

我认为拥有如此深厚的人才储备对他来说是巨大的优势，但我确实觉得，这也带来了一个后果：他似乎还没有完全定下A计划、B计划和C计划。

I think it's been a huge benefit to have that degree of depth at his disposal, but I do think one consequence of it is that it feels like he hasn't quite hasn't quite nailed plan a, plan b, plan c.

是的。

Yeah.

我不知道是什么原因。

I don't know what it is.

我也不知道那到底是什么。

I don't know what it is either.

我想我们看到了，你知道，我们没怎么讨论首发阵容，但今天他在9号位上做了调整。

I guess we saw that, you know, we didn't talk about the starting lineup, but we saw that in the starting lineup in the, you know, he made the change at nine today.

是的。

Yeah.

我对这个安排没什么意见，你知道，我觉得赫苏斯对阵国米时表现很好。

I was okay with that, you know, after I thought Jezus played very well against Inter.

我觉得让赫苏斯首发没问题，但他表现糟糕，而约克雷斯替补上场后虽然积极跑动，但也没好到哪里去。

I was okay with Jesus starting this one, but he was poor, and Jokorez put himself about a bit when he came on, but wasn't any better.

你知道，奥德加德表现不佳。

You know, Odegaard was poor.

埃泽上场后，也没好到哪里去。

Eze came on, wasn't any better.

你知道，萨卡还行。

You know, Saka was okay.

特罗萨德彻底疲软了。

Trossard really faded.

我觉得他在开场的二十到二十五分钟里表现得很出色。

I thought he was very bright in the opening twenty, twenty five minutes.

我本来正要给你发条消息，但后来忘了，或者被比赛本身分散了注意力。

I was gonna I was just about to text you at one point, and then I forgot or got distracted by the actual game.

我本来想说，我觉得特罗萨德在开场的十五到二十分钟里非常活跃，我当时觉得，这可能是他能大放异彩的比赛，但你知道的，他后来就蔫了。

I was gonna say, I think, you know, Trossard in those opening fifteen, twenty minutes was really lively, and I felt like, you know, this might be the kind of game where he has a has a big impact, but, you know, he faded.

你知道，我们缺乏火力。

You know, we we don't have the firepower.

我们目前缺乏创造力。

We don't have the creativity at this moment in time.

我们可能对此有一些疑问，所以或许可以把这个讨论留到第二部分，看看能否理清那里到底发生了什么。

We probably have some questions about that, so we might leave that discussion to to part two to see if we can parse what what exactly is going on there.

但你知道，我们确实把自己重新拉回了均势。

But, you know, we did get ourselves back on level terms.

这是一个角球。

It's a corner.

球传给了惊喜。

Comes in Surprise.

惊喜。

Surprise.

惊喜。

Surprise.

是的。

Yeah.

乌龙球和角球是我们主要的得分来源，我想。

Own goal and, you know, corner are our leading scorers, I guess.

但你知道，我们把握住了机会，重新回到了比赛中，米歇尔·马里诺在近距离将球打入网窝。

But, you know, we made it count, and we got ourselves back in the game, and Michel Marino was there to put it home from close range.

球已经越过球门线了。

The ball went over the line.

这很明确，但确实明显越过了球门线。

It was clear, but but clearly went over the line.

所以现在是2比2，这又是一个让你觉得‘好吧’的时刻。

So it's two two, and that's again a moment where you're thinking, okay.

好吧，我们又开始了。

Well, here we go.

至少我们从这场比赛中拿到了一分。

At least we've got a point from this game.

你知道，我们表现得并不好。

You know, we haven't played well.

表现不算好，但我们还没输。

It hasn't been good, but we haven't been beaten.

也许，也许我们可以像客场对纽卡斯尔那样，找到一个晚来的制胜球。

Maybe, maybe, maybe we can do like we did Newcastle away, for example, and find a late winner.

在过去几年里，我们对阵曼联确实有不少下半场绝杀的记录。

And we actually have quite a a track record of late wins over Manchester United in the last few years.

所以你可能会想，哦，也许吧。

So you're kinda thinking, oh, maybe.

也许吧。

Maybe.

也许吧。

Maybe.

但领先优势没保持多久。

But the lead didn't last very long.

是的。

No.

不。

No.

我的意思是，这又是另一个例子，非尼从右边突破，结果直接带出界了，基本上就是控球失误。

I mean, it was another instance, wasn't it, of Noni driving at the right hand side and just overran it, basically, dribbled it into touch.

然后曼联立刻从另一端发动进攻。

And then United goes straight up the other end.

你是否会批评我们在球门前这片区域的防守方式？

Again, would you be critical of the way we Mhmm.

防守我们球门前的这个区域，你觉得怎么样？

Defended that area in front of our goal?

是的。

Yeah.

当然了。

Absolutely.

我说回来，说到马拉凯，他基本上做了所有艰苦的工作，冲进禁区，然后却一脚踢出界，给了对方一个球门球。

I mean, just to sort of go back to the Maruake thing, you know, he he does basically all the hard work, gets himself into the box, and then clobbers it out for a goal kick.

听到米歇尔·阿尔特塔在赛后采访中多次提到这一点，还挺有意思的。

And it was quite interesting to hear Michel Arteta reference that a couple of times in his postgame stuff.

他？

He?

我确实听了。

I did.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得他确实说了。

Think he did.

对。

Yeah.

我稍后找找看能不能找到那句原话。

I'll see if I can find the quote now in a second.

你可以看到，在后门柱附近，布卡约·萨卡就在那里。

And and you can see at the back post, Bukayo Saka is sort of there at the back post.

如果球传过来，他知道有机会进球，于是双手抱头。

If that ball comes across, you know, he's got a a chance to to score, and he's got his hands on his head.

你知道的吧？

You know?

这是一个我们可以主动创造机会的时刻，但三十秒后，我们却落后了。

It's a moment where, you know, we have the chance to make something happen for ourselves, and instead, like, thirty seconds later, we're behind.

是的。

Yeah.

阿尔特塔说，接下来的进攻是诺尼在六码区一对一。

Arteta said the next action, Noni is one v one in the six yard box.

但你从这次进攻中什么也没得到。

You don't get anything out of that.

球出了底线，变成球门球，一次传球后，我们赢下了关键球。

It goes to a goal kick, one pass, win the jewel.

库尼亚打出了完美的角度。

Kunya puts in the the perfect angle.

我们失去了势头，等等等等。

We lose the momentum, etcetera, etcetera.

但，是的，我觉得，没错，这些都是一些细微的差距。

But, yeah, I think, yeah, I mean, those are those are fine margins.

我不知道你是否称之为细微差距，但你知道，在这种比赛中，你们本该比马塔瓦克表现得更好。

I don't know if you'd call it fine margins, but, you know, those are moments where, you know, in a game like this, you've got to do better than Matawake did there.

你必须做到。

You have to.

你知道，这就是你的职责。

You know, that's your job.

他听进去了。

And he listen.

他努力了。

He tried.

他上场后跑动积极，非常忙碌，但就是没有任何实质性的成果。

He came on, and he he ran, and he was busy, but he just did not have any end product at all.

这一直是他在阿森纳效力期间英超赛季的一个写照。

And that's been kind of a story of his season in the in the Premier League for Arsenal.

当进球或球门球开出时，我觉得我们没能赢得头球。

When the goal or goal kick is taken, I don't think we win the header.

我觉得切科

I think Cesco

切科确实抢到了，但他没把球控制住。

Cesco wins it, like, from he not gets it down.

是的。

Yeah.

萨利巴在他身后，然后

Saliba's behind him, and then

马里诺从他脚下抢断了球。

Marino's bundled off it.

赖斯站得有点太近了，我不确定。

Rice is a bit too close to I don't know.

你知道的，又是这种小范围的一脚触球。

You know, again, it's that little one touch stuff.

好像有一脚从赖斯腿间穿过去的挑传，但突然间，我们有四个人退到球门后面了。

Think there's like a little nutmeg through Rice, but, you know, all of a sudden, we have four men behind the ball.

曼联那边也有四个人，就在我们的中场区域。

United have one, two, three, four men as well in, like, our midfield.

马里诺在

Marino's

地上

on

趴着。

the floor.

赖斯正在转身。

Rice is on the turn.

伊泽在那里。

Eze is there.

马塔韦克就在附近。

Mataweke is there all in close proximity.

而且，你知道，库尼亚这一铲太漂亮了。

And, you know, again, it's a great hit from Cunha.

他利用加布里埃尔当掩护，踢得非常出色，对吧。

He kinda uses Gabriel as a shield, doesn't he, and and hits it very well.

是的。

Yeah.

做得太漂亮了。

Beautifully done.

我觉得德克兰·赖斯要注意，那时他在这个阵型中扮演的是六号位，可能被拉得太靠前了。

I think Declan Rice, bear in mind, he's playing as the kinda number six in this shape by then and maybe gets a little bit too drawn in.

库尼亚对于这样水平的球员来说，空间实在太多了。

Kunia's got far too much space really for a player of that quality.

其实他还可以传给右边的马德，但没必要，直接弧线球射入远角。

There's even a pass on as well out to, I think it's a mad on the right hand side if he wants to take it but no need, bends it in the far corner.

我以前说过，你知道，你本来不应该在记者席上庆祝，但我确实滑到了地上。

I've said before you know you're not really supposed to celebrate in the press box but I did sort of slide onto the floor.

这不算庆祝，

That's not celebrating,

这恰恰是它的反面，你知道吗？

that's what the opposite of it is you know?

是的，庆祝的反面就是我倒在了右边的卡尔·安克身上，那是一个令人心碎的进球。

Yeah, opposite of celebrating collapsed into Karl Anker on on my right, and it was a real gut punch of a goal.

但是

But

但你知道，这就结束了。

but you knew that was it, though.

你知道吗？

You know?

你心里清楚

You knew

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

我们知道，从那之后我们不可能再逆转了。

That we weren't gonna come back from that.

对不起。

I'm sorry.

这是一支展现出极大韧性和意志力的球队。

This is a team that's demonstrated a lot of character, a lot of mentality.

无论是这个赛季还是之前的赛季，我们的比赛风格中都有一种永不放弃的精神，这体现在我们打进的众多绝杀进球中。

You know, this season and previous seasons, there was a a never say die element to the way we play, and that's evident in all the late goals that we've scored.

但曼联在第七、第八分钟进球后，我们就再也没有射门了。

But we didn't have a shot after United went ahead in the seven, eight minutes.

曼联在伤停补时阶段踢得相当混乱，这

United made the injury time quite sort of scrappy, which is

是的。

Yeah.

正是你们五个人做的那样。

Exactly what you five do.

有时候，对吧？在五分钟内？

Times, didn't they, in the space of five minutes?

是的。

Yeah.

达洛倒下了。

Dalo went down.

但这就是你们该做的，这就是你们把自己置于的境地。

But that's what you do, and that's the position that you put yourselves in.

你知道的？

You know?

你不能真的对此抱怨，因为我们自己也会这么做，而且我们也确实这么做过。

You can't really complain about that because we would do it, and we have done it.

你知道的。

You know?

所以，你知道，这里没什么道德高地可言，但事情就是那样了。

So, you know, there's no moral high ground to be on here, but that that was it.

你明明知道那就是终点，也知道我们会在这个赛季首次在主场输球，而你知道，我们在谈论担忧和顾虑，但我们也必须承认，我们仍然排名第一。

You you knew that was it, and you knew that we were gonna lose at home for for the first time this season, which, you know, we're we're talking about concerns and worries, and, you know, we do have to say we're still top.

我们是。

We are

这属于免责声明部分。

It's it's the disclaimer portion of

第一。

the top.

没错。

Exactly.

我们每周都得这么做。

We've gotta do it every week.

但你知道，安德鲁，干脆提前录好，然后我们可以在第一部分结束时直接放上去。

But you know Just prerecord it, Andrew, and then we can just bang it on at the end of part one.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道吗

Do know

我的意思你懂吧？

what I mean?

该说的应该是，

The thing to say,

詹姆斯，你提前录一段。

James prerecord it.

你知道，我们现在领先积分榜一大截，就只是随便报个数字而已。

You know, we are points clear at the top of the table, and we just, like, drop in the number.

我来录一下，一、二、三。

I'll just record one, two, three.

你知道，我明白，这并没有那么严重。

You know, it's I get it, and we are this is not fatal.

这并不一定致命。

It doesn't have to be fatal.

但你知道，上周我们本可以领先九分，现在却只剩四分了。

But, you know, this is like, last week, we could have been nine points clear, and now it's four.

你知道吗？

You know?

而且这些分数变少了。

And those are less.

这可是少了很多。

That is a lot less.

你知道吗？

You know?

我觉得很多焦虑就来源于此，再加上表现不佳，还有进攻火力和进球能力持续低迷的问题。

And and that's where I think, you know, a lot of the anxiety comes from, couple that with a bad performance, couple that with an ongoing issue when it comes to attacking potency and goal scoring.

我认为人们完全有理由感到沮丧、愤怒、担忧，无论你对此有何反应。

And I think people are perfectly entitled to be frustrated, angry, worried, whatever it might be, however you react to this.

我认为我们可以承认现状，这没什么问题。

I think you can acknowledge we are where we are, and that's good.

但我觉得对昨天的结果感到生气完全正常，更何况上周对阵诺丁汉森林的结果也不好。

But I don't see any problem whatsoever in being fucked off with yesterday's result on top of, you know, what happened at Nottingham Forest last week as well, which wasn't good.

你知道吗？

You know?

再加上主场再次0比0，虽然对手利物浦下半场表现确实出色，但你可以看看过去几周在英超的表现，心里清楚我们正在给其他人敞开大门。

On top of another nil nil at home, which was admittedly to, you know, a Liverpool side who played very well in the second half, you know, you can look at these last few weeks in Premier League terms and think, you know, we're we're we're holding the door open for the others.

你知道吗？

You know?

这就是我的感受，或者说我对此的看法。

That's where I feel or that's how I feel about it.

就是这样。

That's it.

我...我...我，你知道，我可以足够理性地说，输掉一场单场比赛是可以接受的，尤其是对阵一支拥有高质量前锋、状态正佳、有点新帅效应、还打进了两个世界波的球队。

I I I, you know, I can be rational enough to say you can lose a one off game, especially against a team with quality attackers who are on a bit of a high, a bit of a new manager bounce, scored two wonder goals really.

我完全可以接受这一点，但让我孤立地看待这场比赛也是不可能的。

I can totally accept that, but it's also impossible for me to look at this game in isolation.

我确实认为这是一月份我们在英超联赛表现中某种模式的一部分，实际上这让我有些困扰——我们在其他赛事和联赛中看到的表现差异，这正好印证了一种想法：期望的重量、压力开始影响我们的表现。我有一种恐惧或焦虑感，可能是我在过去几个赛季也有过的感觉，因为当我观察联赛其他球队时，我还没有看到另一支球队似乎有能力打出那种持续的表现来从我们手中夺走冠军，但曼联比赛让我担心的是这种恐惧：我们可能会以某种方式自毁前程，成为自己最大的敌人？

I do think it's part of a bit of a pattern across January in terms of our Premier League performances and actually it kind of troubles me, this disparity between what we're seeing in other competitions and what we're seeing in the league, it just feeds into this idea that the weight of expectation, the pressure is beginning to impact our performance and I have the kind of sense of dread or anxiety that maybe I have had in quite in previous seasons because when I look at the rest of the league, I don't see another team as yet who seem capable of putting together the sort of consistent run that will be required to take this title away from us, but what worried me about the United game is this fear that we could somehow prove our own undoing, that we can be our own Worst enemy?

最大的敌人。

Worst enemy.

是的。

Yeah.

我看到很多人这么说，之前也有人对我说过，他们认为阿森纳本赛季夺冠的最大障碍——虽然不是唯一障碍——就是阿森纳自己。这其中包含了我们讨论过的所有因素：从上次英超夺冠至今的漫长间隔、三次亚军经历...我认为没人会质疑这些球员和教练的积极性、渴望或决心，但这份重担本身确实难以承受。

The amount of people I saw you say it, and people have said it to me before that they feel the the only well, not the only, but the biggest impediment to arsenal winning the league this season is is arsenal, and whether that weight of, you know, everything that we've talked about, the the the long period between winning the Premier League and now and the three second place finishes and the you know, I don't think anyone can question the the motivation or the hunger or the desire of these players and this manager, but that in itself comes with a it's a lot to carry.

对吧？

Right?

这份压力确实沉重，我认为在如此激烈的竞争中，尤其是在这种曾经出现过的艰难时期，球队需要承受很多。

It's a lot to carry, and I think you need, in a tight race, in periods like this where, you know, it's happened before.

今天早上我看到有人引用了那个博客。

I saw someone quote the blog this morning.

让我看看能不能在Blue Sky上找到它。

Let me just see if I can find it here on Blue Sky.

Blue Sky上有个精彩的抱怨。

Beautiful groan on Blue Sky.

他说，让这成为1997-98赛季对阵布莱克本的时刻吧。

He said, let this be the Blackburn moment from '97, '98.

如果人们还能记得那么久以前的事，当时我们主场输给了布莱克本，遭遇了一场糟糕的失利，随后球队开了个会议，坦诚地面对了一些现实。

And if people can remember back that far, there was, like, a a bad defeat, I think, at home to Blackburn, there was a sort of a team meeting, a consolidation, you know, where some home truths were spoken.

我觉得现在从阿森纳的角度来看，正是需要发生类似事情的时刻——某种根本性的改变，无论是我们的阵型安排，还是球员被要求的踢球方式，都需要调整，才能重新点燃火花。

And I kinda feel like this is a moment where something like that needs to happen now from an arsenal perspective, where something fundamental kinda needs to change with either the way we're setting up or the way we're being asked to play for us to to sort of find a spark again.

我认为发生的事情在这个赛季这个时候并不罕见。

I think what's happened is not atypical at this time of the year.

萨姆·迪恩，我不知道你有没有看到这个。

Sam Dean, I don't know if you saw this.

阿森纳连续第五个赛季在冬季出现低迷期

The fifth consecutive season in which Arsenal have had a winter slump

也就是

where,

是的，我们在十二月和一月踢得很艰难，最近几周在英超联赛中确实如此。

yeah, we we found it hard going in December and January, and and that's been the case certainly in Premier League terms over the last couple of weeks.

对吧？

Right?

但我们必须找到突破的方法。

But we have to find a way through it.

我认为这还伴随着一段前锋表现远未达标的时期。

And I think that's also been coupled with a period where the attackers are not producing anywhere near enough.

我们的进攻球员在进球和助攻方面的产出远低于应有的水平，这也是教练需要解决的问题。

End product goals and assists from our attacking players are are way down on where they should be, and that's a problem to solve for the manager as well.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

而且，你知道，挺有意思的是，今天早上我和艾米·劳伦斯聊过，她提到了那场布莱克本的比赛。

And, you know, it's funny, Amy Amy Lawrence, we spoke this morning and she mentioned that Blackburn game.

但对我来说，有点荒谬的是，我记得当时在现场看那场布莱克本的比赛，那真是一场糟糕的比赛，但那时我们在联赛中已经落后了。

But for me, the slightly absurd thing is that I was I remember being at that Blackburn game, it was a really horrible one, but we were trailing in the league at that time.

我们当时正试图追赶曼联，却没能缩小差距，我想就是输掉那场比赛导致的。

We were trying to chase down Manchester United and failed to close the gap I think by losing that one.

而目前阿森纳所处的处境中，有点疯狂的是，他们领先四分。

What's kind of crazy arguably, about this situation Arsenal currently find themselves in is that they are four points clear.

但我觉得，由于过去的历史、我们谈论过的创伤、赢球的迫切渴望，以及随之而来的恐惧，我们几乎是在本应占据优势的时候，人为制造了一场危机。

But I think because of the history, the trauma as we've talked about, the desperation to win, the fear that that produces alongside it, we're sort of manufacturing a crisis moment almost at at a time where we're in theoretically a commanding position.

你明白我的意思吗？

Do you know what I mean?

感觉好像情况比实际更糟，我觉得是这样。

It's sort of like it feels like it feels worse than it is, I think.

这有点像昨天那场比赛，我们本掌控着局面，但曼联扳平比分后，或者我们进球后，反而陷入了混乱。

It's sort of like aligned with the game yesterday where we're in control and we resort to chaos after United equalize or after we score rather.

我认为现在是赛季中的一个关键节点，我们必须确保：也许这一切早已在预料之中，也许这正是一个警钟，或者一记当头棒喝，不管你怎么称呼它，但现在必须做出回应。

And I think this is a moment in the season where we have to make sure that, okay, maybe it's been in the post, and maybe this has been coming, and maybe this is, I don't know, a wake up call or a kick in the arse or whatever way you wanna call it, but there has to be a reaction now to this.

球员个人、集体，还有教练，都必须有所作为，因为我觉得，昨天的一切都远远不够好。

There has to be something from the players individually, collectively, from the manager because I don't think, you know, yesterday, anything was good enough.

个人表现远远不够好。

Individual performance is not good enough.

团队表现也远远不够好。

Collective performance is not good enough.

场边的战术指挥也远远不够好。

The way the game was managed from the sidelines, not good enough.

这种情况是可能发生的。

And that can happen.

足球这东西，真的很奇怪。

Football, it's weird.

这种情况是可能发生的。

It can happen.

但我觉得我们需要看到对此立即做出回应。

But I think what we need to see is an immediate response to this.

因为没过多久，就在几周前，大家还在谈论阿森纳是夺冠热门，你可以看到足球中形势变化有多快，情绪转变有多快，信心消散得多快，所有这些。

Because it's not too long ago, only a couple of weeks ago, everyone's talking about Arsenal as favorites for the title, and you can see how quickly things change in football and how quickly the mood can change and how quickly belief can evaporate, all of those things.

你赢下几场比赛，连续两场、三场、四场，开始进球，情况又会改变。

You win a couple of games, two, three, four games on the bounce, and you start scoring some goals, and it changes again.

你会扭转这种势头。

And you change that momentum.

你在赛季中总会经历一段艰难时期。

And you're you're always gonna go through a difficult period in the season.

我认为我们现在在英超联赛中正处于或正陷入一段艰难时期，但这种情况不能持续下去。

I think we've gone or are in a difficult period right now in Premier League terms, but it can't last.

我们必须振作起来。

We have to shake ourselves out of it.

你知道的？

You know?

这就是争夺冠军的现实。

That is the that is the reality of going for a title.

你必须能够应对这些挫折，必须能够激励自己，要关注那些关键球员、经验丰富的球员、高水平的球员，从他们身上榨取更多，对他们有更高期待，也让他们对自己有更高要求，必须挺身而出，证明你们真的想赢得英超冠军。

You've got to be able to respond to these setbacks, and you've got to be able to lift yourselves, and you've gotta look at big players, experienced players, high quality players, and get more out of them, expect more from them, expect more from themselves, and fucking stand up and be counted and show that you wanna go and win the Premier League.

你知道的。

You know?

我认为这正是至关重要的时刻。

This is where I think it it's imperative.

比如，周中对阵基拉特的比赛就像一次清零，我知道他有几名球员停赛，所以无法像他希望的那样轮换。

Like, midweek is a kind of palate cleanser, right, against Kyrat where I know he's got a couple of suspensions, so he can't necessarily rotate as much as he might like.

但周六或周日对阵利兹联的比赛才是关键吧？

But Saturday is it Saturday or Sunday against Leeds?

我认为是周六对阵利兹联。

Saturday, I think, against Leeds.

你知道，我们必须去埃兰路球场，这会很艰难，因为他们最近状态不错，而且是客场作战。

You know, we've gotta go to Elland Road, which is gonna be tough because they've been in decent form, away game.

比赛会非常喧闹、嘈杂且紧张。

It's gonna be loud and noisy and hectic.

我们必须展现出我们依然具备争冠的底蕴，这一点必须在表现中清晰体现。

We've gotta go we've got to just fucking show that we have these title credentials again, and it's gotta be evident in the performance.

完全同意。

Totally agree.

如果你在寻找乐观的迹象和鼓舞人心的信号，阿森纳本赛季已经对挫折做出了很好的回应。

And I think if you're looking for signs of optimism, signs of encouragement, Arsenal have responded really well to setbacks already this season.

想想我们在安菲尔德和维拉公园的失利，以及之后我们所取得的连胜。

You think about the defeats at Anfield and Villa Park and the runs that we were able to put together after that.

是的。

Mhmm.

希望他们在这里也能做到同样的事，让我们在赛季结束时将这次波动视为一个小小的失误，而非整个成功赛季的转折。

Hopefully, they can do the same here and and we reflect on this at the end of season as a wobble and a blip in an otherwise really successful season.

但我觉得，目前这支队伍在英超联赛中确实有些变化，你说得对。

But there is there is something going on, I think, currently with this team in the Premier League, and you're right.

米克·劳特必须立即掌控局面，否则可能会造成真正的损害。

Mick Lauter needs to get a grip on it immediately before it before it does some some real damage.

是的。

Yeah.

同意。

Agree.

我认为第一部分就到这里吧，因为第二部分还有更多内容要聊。

I think we should leave it there for part one because there's a bit more to chat about in part two.

所以我们先休息一下，稍后回来回答你们在Blue Sky、GunnerBlog.bsky.social和ArsBlog.com上发给我们的问题，进入第二部分。

So we'll take a break, and we will come back with your questions and more in part two right after this.

欢迎回到《ArsCast专家》。

Welcome back to the ArseCast expert.

这是节目的第二部分，我们将回答你们在Blue Sky、GunnerBlog.bsky.social和ArsBlog.com上发给我们的问题。

This is part two of the show where we answer the questions that you sent to us on blue sky at gunner blog dot b sky dot social and at arse blog dot com.

此外，你们也可以在ArsBlog的Discord聊天服务器中参与讨论，前提是你们是Patreon上的ArceBlog会员。

Also on the arse blog Discord chat server, which you get access to if you are an ArceBlog member on Patreon.

我先来，可以吗？

I'm gonna go first, if that's okay.

梅特罗格兰德。

Metro Grande.

我永远无法释怀梅特罗格兰德。

I'll never get over Metro Grande.

他说，我们对曼联丢掉的分数超过三分了吗？

He said, did we lose more than three points against United?

我们是不是丢掉了一些气场？

Did we lose some aura?

我觉得是的。

I think so.

我觉得是的。

I think so.

我认为，当你在主场丢了三个球时，会带来一些连锁反应。

I think when you could see three goals at home, there is a bit of a ripple effect around that.

我认为这在某种程度上削弱了我们在酋长球场建立起来的堡垒气场，虽然我们并不是每周都这样，但确实有点影响。

I think that's sort of slightly I mean, look, we're not doing it every week, but I think it slightly diminishes the kind of the the fortress aura that we have built around the Emirates.

别忘了，我们在联赛中已经很久没有在主场输球了。

And bear in mind, we've not lost there in the league for a long time.

哦，他们在天空体育上播了这些数据。

Oh, they were showing the stats on fucking Sky.

对。

Right.

当阿森纳先得分时，结果只有一个。

When arsenal score first, there's only one outcome.

阿森纳先得分24次，阿森纳全都赢了。

Arsenal score first, 24 times, arsenal win.

我当时就想，你他妈的，我知道你在这儿打什么主意。

And I was going, you fucking I know what you're doing here.

我不是要怪天空体育替我们自己的失败找借口，但感觉这种事被提出来，确实挺典型的。

Not to blame Sky for our own failings, but it just felt a bit typical that that was that was brought up.

是的

Yeah.

我的意思是，回到心理学的角度，我认为最具有破坏性的是这一点。

I mean so I I actually think sort of the again, to bring it back to psychology, I I think the most damaging aspect is is is that really.

我确实知道，通过与球迷交流和在线互动，这重新揭开了旧伤疤。

Is I certainly certainly, you know, speaking to fans and engaging with fans online, it has opened up old wounds.

它引发了支持者们的恐惧，让我们觉得以前看过这部恐怖片。

It has created or augmented fear among supporters that we've seen this this horror film before

嗯。

Mhmm.

而且它没有一个幸福的结局。

And it doesn't have a happy ending.

我担心的是，这种情绪如果影响到球员，或者以某种方式感染了球员。

And I suppose there's sort of the the the worry is if that if that reaches the players or infects the players in some way.

你知道，他们会不会开始质疑自己。

And, you know, whether they begin to sort of question themselves.

因为整个赛季的大部分时间里，看起来他们确实拥有那种坚定不移的信念和决心，认为今年一定会是他们的年份。

Because for so much of this season, it's looked like, you know, they really have that unshakable belief and determination that this will be their year.

如果这种信念受到威胁，如果被破坏了，显然可能会成为一个真正的问题。

If that comes under threat, if that is jeopardized, obviously, like, you know, that could be a real problem.

是的。

Yeah.

那我可以接着问一个问题吗？

Can I follow-up then?

因为有人对现场氛围提出了疑问，而你当时在现场。

Because there were some questions about the atmosphere, and you were there.

所以你当然能比我能更充分地回答这个问题。

So you can answer this, obviously, in a much more informed way than I could.

Discord上的Mixed Meza说。

Mixed Meza on the Discord.

他说球场内的气氛非常焦虑和紧张。

He said the atmosphere is so anxious and tense in the stadium.

这种情绪延续到了球场上。

It carries on to the pitch.

作为观赛球迷，我们是否需要承担更多责任，努力营造积极的氛围，尽管这可能很难？

Do we need to take more responsibility as matchgoing fans to help create a positive atmosphere, difficult though it may be?

还有Ace Ventura 85。

And Ace Ventura 85.

我还没看过它的续集。

There's a sequel I haven't seen.

他说或者他们说，观众是否成了一个问题？

He says or they say, is the crowd becoming an issue?

紧张和恐惧的感觉非常明显。

The sense of tension and fear is palpable.

观众不断发出大声的叹息和呻吟。

Loud moans and groans fairly constantly.

这与2223年时的情况不同，那时当球队落后或有球员犯错时，观众都会支持球队。

It feels different to 2223 when the crowd would get behind the team when we went to goal down or behind a player that had made a mistake.

显然，造成这种情况的原因非常清楚且可以理解，但作为球迷，我们是否需要改变自己的行为，以免影响场上的球队？

Obviously, the reasons for this are pretty clear and understandable, but do we as fans have to change our behavior so as not to affect the team on the pitch?

我觉得这非常有趣。

I think this is really interesting.

我只能从我在记者席的位置来分享我的观察，那显然是在隧道后方的侧面。

I can only give my account from where I was in the press box, which is obviously sort of, you know, on the side behind the tunnels.

我无法代表你们所在区域的氛围发言，你们在听比赛时的情况。

I can't speak for the atmosphere where where you all were, you know, when you're listening.

但我注意到，在开球前，他们播放了灯光秀和赛前宣传视频，内容很好，强调了这场比赛依然重要，因为我知道它对我而言依然重要。

But I found it striking that so before kickoff, they gave it the the light show and the the build up hype video, which looks good actually about, you know, how this fixture still matters because I know it still matters to me.

比赛开始前，当大家唱起《北伦敦永存》时，声音非常大。

And and before the game, like, when North London Forever was being sung, it was loud.

真的非常大。

It was really loud.

我在想，不知道电视转播是否能传达出这种感觉，但当时我感觉这里充满了红色与白色的热烈氛围。

I was thinking what I don't know if that came across on TV, but I was like, it's a kind of, you know, red and white hot atmosphere in here.

但我觉得比赛一开打，紧张感就悄然蔓延了。

And but I did feel that as soon as the game started, tension crept in.

即使在前二十分钟里，我也感觉到观众席上弥漫着一种不安，尤其是当曼联以那种方式获得平局进球时。

And even in that first twenty minutes, I felt there was a a nervousness among the crowd, and particularly, obviously, when United are gifted their equalizer in the fashion that they are.

今天我们早上在The Athletic开会时聊到一件事，你还记得威廉·萨利巴曾经以类似方式丢球吗？

And one thing we were talking about on our meeting this morning at The Athletic was do you remember when William Saliba gave a goal away in similar fashion?

嗯，不是完全一样的方式，但那确实是个重大的个人失误，对吧？对阵莱斯特时。

A big well, not similar fashion, but it's a big individual mistake, wasn't it, against Lester.

莱斯特？

Lester?

我觉得是的。

I think so.

我不太记得了，但应该是对类似这样的球队。

I can't remember, but it was against somebody like that.

整个球场在短暂的震惊沉默之后，爆发出一阵充满抗争的怒吼。

And the whole stadium, after a sort of brief stunned silence, sort of rose with a roar of defiance.

是的。

Yeah.

那是一个对阵莱斯特城的乌龙球。

It was an own goal against Leicester.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

我不认为球场对范戴克的失误做出了那样的反应。

And I I I don't think that's how the stadium answered to Van Dijk's mistake yesterday.

从我坐的位置来看，我看到的并不是那样。

That that's not what I saw from where I was sat.

让我这么说吧。

Let me put it like that.

我认为这其实反映出了球场氛围的一种变化，而我认为这段时间里最主要的变化就是球迷的期望。

And and I think that tells a story really about a change that has happened in the ground, and I think the expectations are the primary thing that shifted in that time.

你知道吗，那时候阿森纳在任何冠军争夺中都算是顽强的弱者。

You know, at that time, Arsenal were sort of plucky underdogs in in any sort of title race.

如果我没记错的话，大多数人当时只希望获得欧冠资格。

I think most people were kind of hoping for a Champions League qualification if I recall correctly.

但现在，我们的期望是必须赢球。

But now the expectation is we need to win.

我们必须赢。

We have to win.

就冠军而言，这简直就是赢或全输的局面。

It's kind of win or bust, really, as far as the title's concerned.

我认为这影响了球场的氛围。

And I think that impacts atmosphere.

这并不是要批评球迷，因为我真的不知道谁能免于这种影响。

And it's not to be critical of supporters because I don't really know who could be immune to that.

我完全理解，人们自然希望并需要我们取得成绩，渴望胜利，这种期待伴随着一定程度的焦虑。

I think it's natural to want and need us to deliver and to be desperate for it and for everything that and for that to come with a certain degree of anxiety, I totally understand.

但我确实觉得这可能会营造出一种并非最有利的氛围。

But do I feel that it may create an atmosphere that is not necessarily the most conducive.

我认为有可能是这样。

I think potentially, yeah.

当然，这正是我在球场上听到很多人对我说的。

Certainly it's what a lot of people are saying to me in the ground.

比如当我身处媒体室时，许多媒体、电视记者都会告诉我，球迷们情绪紧张，这并没有帮助。

Like when I'm in the press room, a lot of media, TV media, journalists are saying to me, this crowd are edgy, and it's not helping.

是的。

Yeah.

我对这一点有些矛盾，因为这可能没有帮助，但这是完全正常的人类反应。

I'm sort of torn on this one because it might be unhelpful, but it's a perfectly normal human reaction.

我同意。

I agree.

你知道的？

You know?

三年来屡次接近成功，正如你所说，提升了人们的期望，但同时也像一种无法缓解的瘙痒。

Where three years of coming so close has, as you say, lifted expectations, but also, I don't know, it's like an itch you can't scratch.

对吧？

Right?

当有一种无法缓解的瘙痒时，事情就会变得不那么理性。

And things become less rational when there's an itch you can't scratch.

你会疯掉的。

You lose your fucking mind.

你知道吗？

You know?

所以我觉得，理想的情况是——我的椅子都快被我坐断了——那种足球迷应该具备、应该表现的乌托邦式理想状态。

So I I think, you know, the the the ideal scenario is, you know, this sort of there's my chair nearly breaking, but this utopian ideal of what football supporters should be and how they should behave.

对吧？

Right?

球队表现糟糕，但六万名球迷团结一致，给予支持和鼓励，激发球员，球员们做出回应，最终拼出一场精彩表现，所有人都把球迷当作第十二人，诸如此类。

The team is playing poorly, and 60,000 people come together as one collective with backing and support, and that rouses the lads, and the players respond, and they, you know, they dig out a performance, and everyone goes to the fans with the twelfth man, all that kind of stuff.

对吧？

Right?

但事实并非如此。

But that's not how it works, really.

这在阿森纳，或者几乎任何其他地方，都不是这样发生的。

That's not how it plays out at Arsenal or pretty much anywhere else.

你知道吗？

You know?

现实是，我认为，当球迷们进场时，正如你所说，赛前气氛热烈，歌声响起。

The reality is, I think, that fans, when they go into a game, and as you said, you know, beforehand, was loud and the song was sung.

我认为在开场的二十到二十五分钟里，我们表现不错。

And and I think in that opening twenty, twenty five minutes, you know, we were good.

观众的表现也不错。

The crowd was good.

但最终，他们的反应取决于场上的情况。

But, ultimately, they respond to what is happening on the pitch.

如果场上的情况让球迷感到担忧、焦虑和不安，也就是说，让我们担心最坏的结果，那么人们表现出这样的反应完全是正常的。

And if what is happening on the pitch transmits to the fans worry and anxiety and concern and, you know, things that that that cause us to fear the worst, then it's it's just perfectly normal for people to behave that way.

我不是在说，比如比赛结束时人们发出嘘声之类的事。

And I'm not talking about, you know, people booing at the end, whatever.

这跟那个没关系。

It's not to do with that.

这关乎的是，由于场上的情况、球员的表现以及他们呈现的竞技状态，观众群体内的氛围是如何发生变化的。

It's to do with how the energy within a crowd can change because of what happens on the pitch, because of the way the players are playing, because of the performances they're putting in.

这才是决定球场是热闹欢快还是安静沉闷的关键因素。

That is the that is the key driver of how loud and fun a stadium is or quiet and miserable a stadium is.

没错。

That's Yeah.

归根结底就是这个道理。

That's what it comes down to.

毕竟，他们是专业人士。

Well, they're the professionals.

没错。

Correct.

他们是专业人士。

They're the professionals.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，毫无疑问，责任完全在他们身上。

So, you know, the onus absolutely is on them.

我认为，观众的紧张情绪和球员的紧张情绪在这场比赛中确实形成了一种恶性循环。

And and, you know, I think that the tension in the crowd and the tension among the players did create a bit of a sort of vicious cycle during this game.

我觉得，某种程度上，它们确实开始相互影响。

I do think there was a sense in which they sort of began to feed each other.

但他们应该这样吗？

But should they?

我认为，有理由期待专业人士能更好地应对这种情况。

I think it's fair to expect the professionals to maybe handle that better.

但同样地，是的，我觉得关于球迷的问题很有趣，就像你说的，这种乌托邦真的可能实现吗？

But equally, yeah, I think it's an interesting question on the fans, and it's like you say, that this utopia, is that plausible?

球迷在等待了这么久、离成功如此之近的情况下，还能保持耐心和理解，这现实吗？尤其是我认为，围绕阿森纳的所有信号都表明，现在只关乎胜利。

Is it realistic for fans to sort of after so long, after waiting so long and coming so close to be, you know, patient and understanding in the moment, especially when I think all the sort of signals around arsenal say it's about winning.

比如，他们夏天的投入、花的钱、组建的阵容、踢的足球风格、所依赖的细微优势，一切都在为胜利服务。

Like, I I I think the summer that they had, the amount of money that they spent, the squad that they built, the type of football that they play, the margins they exploit, everything is geared to win.

这正是我作为球迷感受到的信息——我们几乎被明确告知，现在只追求胜利。

And that is kind of the message I feel as supporters, we're sort of being given almost, that it's like we're about winning now.

所以当这一切没有发生时，我想人们肯定会感到失望。

So when that doesn't happen, you know, I think people are gonna be disappointed.

你觉得，是不是也存在一种风格上的问题，我不确定。

Do you think, you know, there is a stylistic issue as well that I don't know.

是的。

That Yeah.

如果足球的设计就是为了赢，你不断拼搏、拼搏、再拼搏，到了五月，那就太棒了。

The football, like, if it's designed to win and you grind and you grind and you grind and you grind, in May, amazing.

太棒了。

Fucking brilliant.

对吧？

Right?

我们是冠军了，这迟到了很久，我们都等了这么久。

We are champions, and it's overdue, and we've all waited for this for so long.

但最终我们达到了目标，谁在乎我们是怎么做到的呢？

Who gives a fuck how we got there in the end once we got there?

但我觉得，在你亲身体验的过程中，我们比赛的方式有一种消耗性的特点。

But I think while you're while you're experiencing it, there's a sort of attritional nature to the way that we play games.

正如我们常说的，这个赛季尤其比你希望的要更紧张。

As we often said, this season in particular tend to be tighter than you would like.

一球小胜。

One goal victories.

很多这样的比赛，你知道，对你的心脏、血压或其他任何方面都不好。

Lots of those which are, you know, not good for your heart or your blood pressure or or anything else.

我们之前讨论过的其他问题，比如进球方面，以及我们的进攻球员状态不佳。

That the other concerns that we we talked about when it comes to goal scoring and players being below par, our attacking players being below par.

也许，詹姆斯，我们所有的进攻和创造型球员恰好同时陷入低迷，这确实很糟糕，也太巧合了。

Maybe it's a case, James, that, like, all of our attacking and creative players have lost form all at the same time, which would be, you know, bad and a hell of a coincidence.

但也许，我们球队的结构、教练方式或比赛风格本身，也让位居榜首变得没那么令人愉快，如果你能理解我的意思的话。

But maybe as well there is something about the way that we're structured or the way that we're we're coached or the way that we're playing that makes being top of the table maybe a bit less enjoyable than you might think, if that makes sense.

是的。

Yeah.

也许吧。

Maybe.

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，我们并没有特别吸引人的足球风格可以依靠。

I mean, I I don't think we have particularly attractive football to fall back on.

这确实是事实。

That that is that is for sure.

当我们所做的事情奏效时，这真是太好了，你知道，不会有人抱怨。

And it's it's great when what we do works, You know, you won't find anybody complaining.

两比一的时候很有趣。

It was interesting at two one.

我觉得昨天就是两比一的时候。

I think it was at two one yesterday.

顺便说一下，我认为从我坐的位置来看，嘘声被夸大了。

And I should add, by the way, I think the booing, from my position where I was sat, the booing has been a bit overplayed.

并不是整个球场都响起了齐声嘘声。

Like, it wasn't a chorus of boos for the whole ground.

你知道的吗？

You know?

我听到的只是一些零星的嘘声。

It was a smattering of boos is what I could hear.

是的。

Yeah.

我没想到赛后新闻发布会上会如此着重讨论这一点。

I was surprised that the it it was so heavily focused on in the postgame press conference.

是的。

Yeah.

但我觉得我们周围可能有一些噪音，而且肯定有很多人在3比2时离场，这或许影响了报道的倾向，但我并没有听到大规模的嘘声。

But I think maybe there was a bit around where we were, and certainly a lot of people walked out at three two and I think that maybe colors the coverage a little bit, but I didn't hear, you know, booing on a wide scale.

但我在2比1时看到很多球迷站起来，对替补席大加指责。

But what I did see at two one was like quite a lot of people sort of getting up and giving quite a lot of stick to the bench.

而且，这些是个人行为，但也反映了比赛中逐渐积累的挫败感。

And again, they are individuals, but it is sort of emblematic of some of the frustration that was kind of bubbling over in the course of the game.

而且，是的，我觉得我不太确定，老兄。

And, yeah, I think I don't know, man.

风格上的问题其实非常有趣。

The stylistic question is a really interesting one.

我认为现实是，每个人的情况都不同。

I think the reality is it's different for everybody.

就我个人而言，我确实希望我们踢得更具观赏性，这对我来说很重要。

For me personally, I do wish we played more attractive football, that is important to me.

不管我喜欢与否，我都是温格时代的产物，我在他的执教时期长大，继承了他的理念，因此这对我很重要。

Whether I like it or not, I am a child of Arsene Wenger, I grew up in his reign and with his ideals inherited, so that does matter to me.

当成绩不佳时，我们踢球的方式可能显得有些乏味。

And when the results aren't there, it is maybe a bit kind of underwhelming the way in which we play.

我成长于一个观看阿森纳比赛的时期，那时他们似乎在足球界占据着某种奇特的道德高地——你知道的，他们不一定赢，但他们拥有核心的理念和原则，

And I and I think I grew up in a period watching Arsenal where they had sort of quite a lot of sort of slightly odd sort of moral high ground in football where, you know, they didn't necessarily win, but they had, like, key ideals and principles,

而且

and

无论结果如何，你都能从中获得满足感或成就感，但我不确定这些价值观在当下是否还成立，所以你最好赢球，就这样，是的。

there was a kind of satisfaction or gratification you could take from that irrespective of outcome, and I'm not necessarily sure that those hold at this point in time, so you better win That's it, yeah.

但同样，这仅代表我个人的看法，还有很多从小看着乔治·格拉汉姆长大的阿森纳球迷，他们会说：我们就喜欢这样。

But again, that's only speaking for me and everyone, you you get tons of Arsenal fans who grew up on George Graham and they're like, we love this.

你知道吗？

You know?

我们喜欢这种风格。

We love this wave.

是的。

Yeah.

但你知道，人们忘了在他变得有点防守之前，阿尔塞纳在乔治·格拉汉姆手下也踢过很多精彩的进攻足球，当时队里还有一些极具 flair 的球员。

But, I mean, you know, people forget that until he did go a bit defensive, Arcel did play some very good attacking football under George Graham and had some really exciting flare players under George Graham.

当然，后来他确实转向了另一条路，我们变得更具防守性。

And, obviously, he took a bit of a left turn along the way, we became more defensive.

不过，是的，我同意你的看法。

But, yeah, I'm I'm with you.

我觉得当我们赢球时，那感觉很棒，因为我喜欢阿森纳赢球。

I think when we win, it's great because I love when Arsenal win.

而且我也认为，这是一支阿森纳球队，我们拥有比最近表现更好的球员潜力。

And I also think this is an arsenal team, and we have players who are capable of a lot better than we've seen of late.

不管我们对个别球员或整体进攻有什么担忧，我认为我们拥有的技术和天赋，其实比最近展现的要多得多。

Like, whatever concerns we have about individuals or the collective attack, I think there is more quality and talent than we've seen of late.

对吧？

Right?

打一些像样的进攻足球并不完全超出我们的能力范围。

That it's not completely out of our our wheelhouse to play some decent attacking football.

但就在现在，也许从十二月起，除了那场对阵阿斯顿维拉的比赛外，英超联赛的感觉真的非常艰难。

But right at this moment and maybe since December, apart from that Aston Villa game, it has felt like a real, real slog in the Premier League.

每周你都在想，今天就是我们需要拿出表现、向所有人证明自己的日子，但最近几周真的没有发生过。

And every week, you're going, this is the day where we need to just sort of put in a performance and show everybody, and it hasn't really happened in the last few weeks.

所以我不知道。

So I don't know.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我有点忘记我要说什么了，但我确实觉得，我们比赛缺乏亮点和激情，导致像昨天这样的日子感觉更糟？

I I I've kind of lost my point here, but I do think that the lack of flair or excitement to our game means that when days like yesterday happen, they feel worse?

嗯，安德鲁，我说的是那些神奇时刻。

Well, Andrew, I mean, magic moments.

这是一个米克尔·阿尔特塔这个赛季经常使用的流行语，他希望球员们能创造精彩时刻。

It's a it's a it's a kind of buzz phrase Michele Arteta has used quite a lot this season, looking for players to deliver magic moments.

我的意思是，曼联有过两次这样的时刻，而当我们期待我们的球员在英超联赛中制造这些精彩瞬间时，它们却并没有出现。

I mean Manchester United had two And when we look to our guys to produce those magic moments in the Premier League right now, they're not really happening.

是的。

No.

对。

Yeah.

这确实很困难。

And that that that's that's difficult.

实际上，有人在Discord上提出了这个问题，来自JS Fitzy。

There was question on that, actually, from JS Fitzy on the Discord.

他说，阿尔特塔经常提到，需要精彩时刻来赢得紧张的比赛。

He said, Arteta often cites needing magic moments to win tight games.

你认为我们为什么如此缺乏这些时刻？你希望看到什么改变来解决这个问题？

Why do you think we've we've had so few of them, and what would you like to see to resolve it?

所以，求你了，在这个播客里解决我们所有进攻问题吧，詹姆斯。

So just please, on this podcast, solve all our attacking problems, James.

我们就只求这个。

That's all we ask.

哦，老兄。

Oh, mate.

我不知道从哪儿说起。

I don't know where to start.

我的意思是

I mean

你觉得球队的人员构成或战术结构需要改变吗？

Do you think something needs to change with the composition of the team or the structure of the team?

我觉得我挺希望它能改变的。

I think I would quite like it to.

我觉得我希望能改变。

I think I would like it to.

我觉得，是的，对我来说确实需要。

I think, yeah, for me for me, it would.

实际上，我们经常谈论进攻，但我认为中场三人组在某些时候确实有问题。

And actually, we talk about the attack a lot, but I think there are times when the midfield three Yes.

整个前场六人，我觉得不太对劲。

The the whole front six, I don't think is quite right

是的。

Yes.

在某些时刻。

Point in time.

同意。

Agree.

我本来想说说中场三人组的问题。

I I, yeah, I was gonna say about the midfield three.

我的意思是，祖布门迪是个不错的引援。

I mean, you know, Zubramendi, good signing.

德克兰·赖斯，表现太棒了。

Declan Rice, fantastic.

马丁目前状态不是最佳。

Martin not at his best at this moment in time.

我认为这样说公平。

I think it's fair to say.

我觉得这事儿也挺奇怪的。

I think, you know, it's it's a weird one as well.

在开场的二十到二十五分钟里，我们对曼联表现不错时，马丁·厄德高表现很好。

In that opening twenty, twenty five minutes when we were good against Manchester United, Martin Odegaard was good.

他比身边任何人都要出色。

He was as good as anyone around him.

但一旦我们失去节奏，他就完全无法对比赛施加任何影响。

But as soon as we went off the rails, he just could not exert any influence over the game.

我不确定这三人组能像我们所需要的那样默契配合，如果我是主教练，这正是我会考虑做出调整的地方。

And I'm not sure that trio clicks in the way that we need it to, and that's kind of where I would be looking if I were the manager to make some kind of a change.

问题是，德克兰·赖斯从未为鲁塞奥·赛达特效力过。

The problem is Declan Rice never played for Rousseau Syedat.

你知道的吧？

You know?

如果你想让他为阿森纳效力，你得先为皇家社会踢过球。

If you wanna play him in for for Arsenal, you need to have played for Real Sociedad.

把他召进来。

Get him in there.

他们是租借来的。

They're on loan.

把他调过来。

Get him there.

没错。

Exactly.

四周的租借期。

A four week loan.

我们把他接回来。

We get him back.

这样就没问题。

It'd be fine.

关于厄德高，我有点搞不清楚他在这套体系中应该扮演什么角色。

With Odegaard, I am sort of struggling to work out what he is supposed to be in this system.

在我看来，状态出色的厄德高应该在前场做出决定性的贡献。

For me, good Martin Odegaard is making decisive contributions in the final third.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这可以包括高位逼抢、抢断球权、帮助夺回控球，但也包括精准传中到后点，或在狭小空间里送出直塞球，找到边路插上的布卡约·萨卡、本·怀特，或者其他任何人。

And and that that can be pressing high, winning turnovers, helping regain possession, but it's also playing those clip crosses to the back post, finding through balls in tight spaces for Bukara Saka or Ben White or whoever it might be on the overlap.

他还要射门，还要打进关键进球。

It's taking shots, it's scoring important goals.

听我说，我只是个外行，不是教练，我真的不太明白我们现在是怎么使用他的。

Listen, I'm a layman, I'm not a coach, I don't really understand how we're using him at this point in time.

当我看到右路时，我常常觉得边后卫在扮演十号位的角色，他们在内线担任前腰。

I feel like when I see that right hand side, often I'm seeing full backs as number tens, I'm seeing them picking up the position inside forward.

我看到奥德加特的位置越来越靠后。

I'm seeing Odegaard deeper and deeper.

我认为这并没有充分发挥他的潜力，而且对我们来说效果也不太好。

And I think it's not getting the best out of him, and it's not massively working for us.

是的，

I yeah.

我觉得他的状态一直不太好。

I'm I think he's struggled for form.

对。

Yeah.

我认为作为队长，这个位置让他比其他人承受了更多的关注。

I think the the position as captain puts a bit more spotlight on him than on maybe some others.

是的。

Yeah.