第250集 - 问答庆典

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yep.

用过Zoom。

Did Zoom.

我们用了Zoom，然后就是

We did Zoom and then that was

很长一段时间我们

For a long time we

都用Zoom。

did Zoom.

没错。

Yeah.

但它会在40分钟后切断，所以你得分成多个会话。

But then it like cuts you off at forty minutes so you would have to like do multiple sessions.

然后我开始录制视频，这是个很大的转变。

And then I started recording video, so like that's a big change.

我以前也用Audacity编辑所有内容。

I used to edit everything on Audacity too.

当我开始做视频时，我开始在DaVinci Resolve里编辑，因为那是我现在用的视频软件。

When I started to do video I was I started editing in DaVinci Resolve because that's the video program that I use now.

我之前也用过其他软件，不过我们现在不谈视频。

I had used other ones before too, but we're not talking about video.

我们是在聊播客。

We're talking about podcast.

就像我做YouTube内容那样，我开始用DaVinci Resolve并逐渐上手，意识到或许也能用它来剪辑播客音频，因为我对视频编辑已经比较熟悉了。

So, like, with my YouTube stuff, like, I started using DaVinci Resolve and I got comfortable with that and I realized that I can probably edit the audio of the podcast in the video decently because I was, like, getting comfortable with editing video in it.

所以我就想，好吧。

And so I was like, okay.

我们可以录视频。

We can record video.

于是我们开始在Zoom上这样做，现在改用Discord或Videoninja、OBS Ninja。

So we started doing that on Zoom, and then now we use Discord or Videoninja, OBS Ninja.

我现在用OBS录制而不是Zoom，因为我想这样就不会有40分钟时长的限制，可以直接在OBS里录视频，效果不错。

I'm using OBS to record now instead of Zoom because I was like, oh, this won't have the forty minute cutoff, and can just record in OBS the videos and that works.

是啊。

Yeah.

确实很管用。

It definitely works.

技术层面大概就是这样。

That's most of the tech side.

网站之类的都是托比建的，所以我们用的是自托管。

The website and stuff, Toby made so we're self hosted.

这部分我们完全没改动过。

We haven't changed that at all.

比如托比搭建了托管服务，还做了网站，这些我也都没改过。

Like, Toby, like, made some hosting thing and he made the website and I haven't changed that either.

有时候我确实想要一些更新，但他们总是说‘无所谓啦’。

It was was like, sometimes I I kinda want some updates but then they're like, whatever.

我懂。

I know.

多年来唯一让我有点失落的是，其他使用第三方托管服务的播客主能获得各种很酷的数据统计，比如听众来自哪里、某个国家有多少人在听等等，而我们却完全不知道这些。

It's really the only thing that kind of has bummed me out over the years is other podcasters who use third party hosting services will have like all these cool stats that they know like where like where their listeners are from and how many people are listening in this country and wherever else and we just don't know.

是啊，我们...

Like, we Yeah.

我们确实能查到一些信息，但得不到那种详细的分析数据...

We can we can look up some things, but we don't have the type of analytics that Yeah.

嗯。

Yeah.

托比那里有些统计数据，不过他没有保存过去十年的完整记录。

Toby has some stats and stuff, but then it also he hasn't saved it for, like, all of the ten years.

而且每次都得让他去查了告诉我，后来我也懒得问了，反正也不是什么大事。

And, yeah, like, he has to look it up and tell me, and then I'm I, like, don't ask him because it's not that big of a deal.

不过话说回来，那些服务也要花钱，而我们很抠门。

But yeah, those also cost money and we're cheap.

是啊。

Yeah.

因为我们有条件这样。

Because we can be.

就像，其实也没有... 嗯。

Like, there's no Yeah.

我们一直秉持这样的理念：不需要的东西绝不花钱买。

We've we've always kind of been of the mindset that, we're not gonna pay for something if we don't need to.

而且确实，这种做法总体上对我们挺管用的。

And yeah, that has generally worked out okay for us.

不过嘛，我确实买了DaVinci Resolve的完整版。

Although, yeah, I did pay for the full version of DaVinci Resolve.

哦对了，我现在还会做文字转录。

Oh, Another thing is I'll also do, like, a transcript now.

我用的是那种自动字幕生成工具，嗯。

I use, like, the automatic captioning stuff Yeah.

然后我会通读一遍。

And then I read over it.

因为有时候它会识别错误。

Because sometimes it doesn't get it right.

它不能完全准确地理解我们说的话。

It doesn't understand us quite perfectly.

是啊。

Yeah.

我记得有次字幕直接显示成一些脏话。

I think one time like the caption was just like some bad words.

我当时就想，等等，我们根本没说过那些话。

I'm like, wait, we did not say that.

还好我会检查这些内容。

Like, good thing I'm reading over this.

嗯，我们转向在播客中加入视频这一改变，源于Ambie的剪辑方式，但我想也受到了我们做节目期间播客领域整体演变的影响。

Well, and us switching to having video as part of the podcast was a change that came because of the way Ambie was editing, but I think also was spurred by the way the podcasting landscape has also evolved in the time we've been doing the show.

就像我们在2015或2016年开播时，播客已经是非常成熟的形态，但视频播客还不常见——当时大多数人只做音频。而现在很多播客主的主要分发平台已经是YouTube了，他们把内容都放在那里。我们虽然起步时没走这条路，但后来意识到其中蕴含的价值。

Like podcasting was a very well established thing when we started the show in 2015 or 2016, but video podcasts weren't really like most people who were podcasting were just doing the audio and now there are a lot of podcasters who their primary way of distributing their podcast is on YouTube and like that's kind of where they put their content and we didn't start there, but we realized that there was some value to be had.

所以尽管我们播客的独立YouTube频道关注者远少于主频道——毕竟所有精彩内容比如视频都放在主频道，这很合理。

And so although of course our separate YouTube channel for the podcast has like almost no followers compared to our regular YouTube channel still because you put all your all the awesome stuff like your video content on the regular channel, which makes sense.

而我之前分开运营这两个频道，是因为YouTube当时还不支持播客功能，合并发布会拖垮我们的频道数据。

And I had split those up before because YouTube didn't do podcasts back then and it was like killing our channel.

YouTube啊。

So YouTube.

总之。

Anyway.

多年来YouTube的算法在多个方面都让我们头疼，说实话，面对这类问题你只能随遇而安。幸好我们从未真正指望把这变成职业。

YouTube's algorithms have been a thorn in our sides in a number of ways over the years and that, I mean honestly, you just, you gotta roll with the punches when it comes to that stuff and that's, yeah, we thankfully had never really had aspirations to turn this into a career.

这个爱好太小众了，这个领域容纳不了太多人。

The hobby is a little too niche for the space to be populated by a lot of people.

确实有人以制作桌游内容为生并且做得相当成功，但即便对做得很好的人来说，这也是个艰难的谋生方式。

There are people who make board game content for a living and are successful at that, but it's a rough living even for the people who are doing it well.

比如没有人能靠桌游内容发大财。

Like nobody out there is getting rich off board game content.

显然我们并不一定在乎变得富有，但你要知道，为杂货账单发愁、担心怎么支付日常开销是实实在在的问题。

Obviously, we don't necessarily care about being rich, but like, you know, worrying about where your grocery bill is how your groceries are gonna get paid for is a real thing.

所以我们一直觉得，不，我们得有正经工作，然后才兼顾做播客。

And so I think we always were just like, no, no, we're gonna have real jobs and then we'll also do the podcast.

好的。

Okay.

下个问题来自Uncle Gramps。

Next question from Uncle Gramps.

如果要选一款被低估或鲜为人知的桌游推荐给大家，你会选哪款？

If you could pick one underappreciated or lesser known board game that you would want people to know about, what would it be?

我们俩已经无数次讨论过《罗塞塔：失落的语言》，我依然认为这款游戏的知名度远远不够，其实会有很多人爱上它。

Well, you and I have talked endlessly about Rosetta the Lost Language and I still contend that that game is not known by enough people and there are lots of people out there who would really love it.

它并不适合所有人，但有很多不了解这款游戏的人会爱上它。

It's not for everybody, but there are lots of people who don't know that game who would love it.

是啊。

Yeah.

对我来说，我之前提过《悲剧循环者》并做过相关视频，这就是我心中那款鲜为人知的桌游。

And for me, I've talked about Tragedy Looper before and I've made videos on it, but that's like my lesser known board game.

这是一款时间循环元素浓厚的推理游戏，所以肯定不适合所有人。

It's a time loop heavy deduction game, so it's not definitely not for everyone.

但对于适合它的玩家来说，这游戏真的很棒。

But for the people it is for, it's really good.

如果我们想找一款容易上手的游戏，我近几年常推荐的是《Queens To Be or Not To Be》。

If we're looking for something approachable, the one that I tend to bring out over the past few years is Queens To Be or Not To Be.

它在疫情期间有点被埋没了，但其实是款超级有趣的游戏——用俄罗斯方块般的拼块采花引蜂酿蜜，这种板块拼接机制简直绝妙。

It kind of just fell to the wayside during the pandemic and is a really, really fun game with like tetrimino pieces and you're picking flowers and attracting bees to them and making honey and it's tiling and it's so so so good.

每次我教别人玩，他们都说从没听说过这游戏，玩起来却惊叹'哇，这真的超有趣'。

Every time I teach it to people they're like I've never even heard of this before and then they are like oh wow this is really fun.

所以我觉得大家应该多关注这款游戏。

So it's one that I think people should keep an eye out for.

哦，他还问，你梦想中的节目嘉宾会是谁？

Oh, he also asked, who would your dream guest be for the show?

这个问题要看我们说的‘梦想’是指对桌游内容来说会很棒的人选，还是单纯我们想见的人，你知道的，因为这里面有很多不同角度——确实有些与桌游沾边的名人会很有趣。

Now this is one of those things where are we saying dream as in would be amazing for board game content or we just want to meet them or you know, like there's a whole bunch of different angles because like, yeah, I think there are some legitimate celebrities who are board game adjacent who would be fun.

我想选个看起来有可能请到的人。

I want to pick somebody that seems gettable.

对吧？

Right?

就是，在现实可能性范围内的。

Like, like, within the realm of possibility.

所以我提名布伦南·李·马利根，以dropout.tv内容闻名的那位。

And so I am going to say Brennan Lee Mulligan, famous for dropout dot TV content.

他是个桌游玩家。

He is a board gamer.

他简直是游戏《约会万物》里棋盘游戏的配音，这让我笑翻了。

He's literally the voice of the board games in the game date everything, which cracks me up.

就像你可以在游戏《约会万物》里和所有东西约会一样

Like you can date everything in the game Date Everything as

那个标题是电子游戏？

the That title video game?

对，就是电子游戏《约会万物》。

Yeah, the video game Date Everything.

我...嗯。

I've Yeah.

当你的棋盘游戏活过来时，它们的声音就是他配的。

The voice of your board games when they come to life.

我觉得他会是个非常有趣的采访对象，或者甚至是Dropout的CEO Sam Reisch，我知道他也是个超级游戏迷。

And I think he would be a really fun person to interview or even Sam Reisch who is the CEO of Dropout, like I know he's a huge super nerd too.

我觉得和他聊天会很有趣，因为他既聪明又宅。

I think he would be really fun to talk to because he's smart and nerdy.

我觉得这些人会成为非常棒的嘉宾。

I think those guys would would make for some amazing guests.

我想，尼尔·帕特里克·哈里斯应该

I think, I guess Neil Patrick Harris is

对。

yeah.

尤其是在解谜方面。

For the puzzle stuff too especially.

没错。

Yeah.

他...我也特别想和他聊聊

So like he's I also so want to talk

问问他第二关有多变态，真的，我要当面质问尼尔：拜托，这合理吗？

to him about how horrible box two was and genuinely I want to I want to question Neil and be like, come on.

是啊。

Yeah.

比如第一个盒子。

So like Box one.

可能是这样的。

It might be possibly.

他确实。

He's yeah.

他他做了第一个盒子和第二个盒子。

He he's made box one, box two.

他确实喜欢魔术。

He does likes magic.

他喜欢密室逃脱。

He likes escape rooms.

他上过《逃脱》这个播客节目。

He's been on escape this podcast.

嗯，他上过很多密室逃脱相关的播客节目。

Well, he's been on a lot of escape room podcasts.

如果我们开始多聊些密室逃脱的话题，说不定能请到他。

So if we like started talking about more Escape Room stuff, then maybe we get him.

而且他确实涉猎广泛，参与过一些密室逃脱桌游的设计，我记得在某个游戏的制作名单里看到过他的名字，就是我之前提到过的那款。

And yeah, know he's he's done a lot of like he's done some of the Escape Room board games too, because I remember seeing his name in the credits of one of those that I got I talked about.

我觉得这会是个很棒的采访，毕竟我从小看《天才小医生》长大，也很喜欢《老爸老妈的浪漫史》，对他的作品很熟悉。

I mean, like, I think it would be a really neat interview too because like I watched Doogie Howser growing up and I loved How I Met Your Mother and so I'm familiar with Yeah.

就是他在《Yes》之外的那些作品。

Like his work outside of Yes.

天啊，我都好久没想起《博士》了。

Oh my gosh, I haven't thought about Doctor.

《恐怖博士的欢唱博客》真是好久没看了。

Horrible's sing along vlog in so long.

现在真想重温一遍。

Now I want to go rewatch it.

好的，Nyabari提问：在这些AMA中，你希望被问到什么问题？

Okay, Nyabari asks, what question do you wish you got asked during these AMAs?

我觉得这多半是个玩笑，但说实话，我不确定我们在征集问题时有什么特别期待的内容。

I think this was mostly a joke, but I honestly, I don't know if we have any specific things that we're hoping for when we solicit questions from people.

我们想给大家一个直接与我们互动的机会。

We want to give you all the opportunity to directly engage with us.

显然，我的意思是，你们随时可以在Discord或其他地方这样做，但我们有时也喜欢用不那么正式的方式聊天，而不仅仅是围绕桌游展开。

Like obviously, I mean, you can do that anytime in our Discord or whatever else, but we like having a little bit of a less structured way to have a conversation sometimes that isn't just around board games.

所以这给了我们这样的机会。

So this gives us that chance.

是啊。

Yeah.

我也想不出什么好问题。

I can't think of a good question either.

就像我有时候也想不出好答案一样。

Just like I can't think of good answers sometimes.

你的问题总是很棒。

Your question is always great.

但就像任何我知道答案的问题都会是个好问题。

But like any question that's that I know the answer to would be a good question.

好吧。

Alright.

Gameritis Guy问：过去250期节目中最令人意外的事情是什么？

Gameritis Guy asked, what has been the most surprising thing that has happened in the last 250 episodes?

要回顾这么多期节目内容。

So many episodes to think back through.

其实我觉得这个问题我有个不错的答案。

I actually think I have a decent answer for this one.

真的吗？

Really?

而且这和我们录制第一期前讨论过的事情有关。

And it relates to something that we discussed before we recorded episode one.

那个

That

是双周更新吗？

were bi weekly?

我们之前已经提到过所有技术相关的内容，以及我们基本上是如何录制两个不同版本的音频的。

So we already mentioned all the tech stuff earlier and how we record two different versions of our audio basically.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

在我们录制第一期节目之前，我们团队就讨论过，意识到技术可能在某个时刻出问题，导致我们丢失某一期节目。

And we before we ever recorded our first episode, we had a discussion as a group that we recognized that at some point technology might fail us and we we might lose an episode.

比如我们可能完整录制了内容，但由于故障或其他原因，音频文件可能会丢失。

Like we might fully record something and then because of a glitch or whatever that we may lose the audio for it.

即使我们进行了双重录制或其他预防措施，之前也丢失过单条音轨，不得不使用备份。

Even if we were doing the double recording or whatever else And we have lost single audio tracks before and had to use backups.

但在250期节目中，我们实际上从未丢失过任何完整的一期。

But in 250 episodes, we've never actually lost any episodes.

我们从未需要完全重新录制任何内容，这真的很令人惊讶。

Like we've never had to completely rerecord any of our content And that's shocking.

天啊。

Oh gosh.

哦，不。

Oh, no.

别这样。

Don't do that.

别这样。

Don't do that.

说实话，安比，我想把功劳归给你，因为你负责了很多技术后勤工作。

I and I honestly, like, Ambie, I want to give you credit for that because you're the one handling a lot of the, like, technical logistics.

所以显然我认为你应该得到很多赞誉，但我们当时真的很害怕丢失音频。

And so, obviously, I think you deserve a lot of the kudos here, but we were just terrified of losing audio, I think.

因此我们非常谨慎，这并不是说那些丢失过内容的播客主就不够谨慎。

And so we were very diligent and that's not to say that podcasters who have ever lost content weren't diligent.

我不是这个意思

I'm not trying to say that but

我确实差点就那样了。

I've definitely almost it.

我们曾经很接近那种情况。

We've got close.

我记得有一次我没保存就直接退出了。

I think one time instead of saving, I just exited.

哦，我记得那件事。

Oh, I remember that.

然后你删掉了

And then you deleted

我当时就说，不行。

I was like, no.

不过后来我有备份。

But then I had the backup.

所以

So

是啊。

Yeah.

我们曾几近丢失，但从未真正完全丢失过任何内容。

We've come close, but we've never actually lost any content like in its entirety.

说实话，十年250集节目能做到这点简直不可思议。

And for ten years and 250 episodes, that seems impossible, honestly.

要是十年前有人告诉我们能成功，我们绝对会嗤之以鼻。

If you had told us ten years ago that we would actually succeed, we would have been like, hell no.

好吧。

Okay.

Lance问：你们能不靠规则书教会多少种游戏？

Lance asked, how many games could you teach without the rule book?

行。

Okay.

不过这里有个前提——所有规则都必须完全正确吗？

Well, so here's the caveat is do all the rules have to be correct?

因为哦，我全都能教。

Because Oh, I could teach all of them.

只是教得不对。

It's just not correctly.

呃，不行。

Well, no.

我是说，我觉得不用规则书的话，我大概能教会很多游戏。

I'm saying like, I think I could mostly teach a lot of games without their rule books.

但如果不能用规则书来澄清或查细节，我想我会搞错一些东西。

Now, if I couldn't use the rule books to clarify things or look little details up, I think I would get some stuff wrong.

但如果必须硬猜的话，我估计大概能不用规则书教两三百个游戏。

But if I had to, like, guess, I would say probably two or 300 games that I I could I could likely teach without their rule books.

其中很多会是轻量级卡牌游戏或小盒游戏——比如《星际迷航：崛起》这种没规则书我可教不了人。

And a lot of them are gonna be lighter card games or smaller box games like they're I'm not teaching Star Trek Ascendancy to anybody without the rule book.

说实话，就算拿着规则书，我也教得够呛。

In fact, even with the rule book, I'm barely teaching it.

不过确实，我觉得比大多数人以为的要多。

But yeah, I think more than most people would assume.

我认为如果你是桌游爱好者，我敢打赌大多数人掌握的游戏规则比他们以为的要多。

I think if you're a hobby board gamer, I bet most people know the rules to more games than they think.

对我来说，我本来想的是两三个，因为以前记得更多些。

Well, for me, I I was thinking like two or three because I think it used to be more.

好吧。

Okay.

比如，我总是需要查阅说明书来确认设置步骤之类的。

Like, I always have to check it for setup and stuff.

但严格来说，设置环节其实不算教学的一部分。

Well, but then it's so it does teaching so the setup is not technically teaching it though.

对吧？

Right?

假设你是在边教边玩的情况下。

Well, assume like you're teaching and playing.

我是说，游戏设置也是游戏的一部分。

I mean, setup is part of like the game.

但从技术上讲，如果别人拿出规则书正确设置了整个游戏，然后你过去不用规则书就教会了他们，这仍然符合

But it's still technically, if someone else got the rule book out and used the rule book to properly set the whole game up and then you walked over and taught it without the rule book, it's still within the spirit of the

问题在于，如果别人完成了设置并阅读了规则，然后你过去和他们一起玩，这也可以算是你在教他们很多

question Well, of if someone else got the setup and read the rules and then you went over and played it with them, that's also you teaching them a Well, lot

那其实也是你在教他们。

of that's you teaching it to them though.

嗯，你教了他们一点，然后他们自己阅读规则。

Well, you teach them a little bit and then they read the rules.

所以对我来说，我的定义是我必须亲自完成设置。

So I For me, my definition is that I would have to also set it up.

我以前知道更多规则，但很久没玩那些游戏了，所以对很多规则都生疏了。

And I used to know it for more, but like, I haven't played a lot of those games, so I'm like rusty on a lot of them.

比如《心灵游戏》，我很确定我能行，但我不太记得具体设置了

So, like, the mind, I'm pretty sure I could do it, but like, I don't I know like the setup was

你绝对可以

You could absolutely

每人说谎次数不同，但我忘了是8次还是12次

Lies per person, but then I forget like eight or 12.

卡片上可能有写，所以也许吧

It might have it on the card, so maybe.

但就像...你完全可以

But like You could totally

一旦拿出来你就会想起来的

you'd you'd remember once you got it out.

也许吧

Maybe.

这要看情况

It depends.

比如玩家数量不同，以及每位玩家有多少个等级

Like, the different number of players and how many how many levels there are per per player.

问题就在这儿。

That's the thing.

我觉得我现在就能玩《炸弹专家》，因为这是我们最近常玩的游戏。

I think I could do Bombbusters right now because that's, like, the game that we've been playing a lot.

是啊。

Yeah.

Lance还问过，我们赠送最多的游戏是什么？

Lance also asked, what's been our most gifted game?

就是问我们最常送给别人的游戏是哪个？

As in, which game do we gift to others the most?

对我来说，这是我的第一个冒险游戏《寻找巨龙》。

For for me, this is my first adventure, Finding the Dragon.

我想我以前在播客里提到过这个，还做过相关视频，这是个给小朋友玩的RPG类自选冒险游戏。

I think I've talked about this on the podcast before, I've also made videos about it, but this is a choose your own adventure, like RPG type thing for little kids.

其实孩子们也不一定非要那么小。

They don't have to be that little I guess.

但我确实在孩子两岁时给他们读过这本书，它大概只有三页。

But I I read it to my kids when they were two years old and it has like three pages.

你翻动书页，让他们做选择。

You flip it and you let them choose.

他们用手指点选要进行的选项，然后翻到对应页面，或者翻开那页看看会发生什么。

They point and pick which one they're doing and then flip to that page or like flip that page over and see what happens.

他们非常喜欢，其他孩子也很喜欢，所以我把它作为礼物送给很多人，尤其是当他们的孩子两三岁的时候。

They really loved it and other kids like it too and so like I've gifted it to a lot of people like when their kids are two or three or whatever.

这是个很成功的礼物选择。

That's been a successful gift.

我觉得《Just One》是我经常送给别人的游戏，因为它容易上手又超级有趣。

I think Just One has been a game that I've definitely gifted to a lot of people because it's approachable and super fun.

我向很多人推荐过这个游戏，他们都很喜欢。

And I've introduced people to it and they've liked it.

所以之后我就会把它作为礼物送出去。

And so then I'll gift it.

《Strike》这款游戏我也送给过不少人，通常是在他们和我一起玩过之后。

And Strike, I've also gifted to a number of people, usually after they've played it with me.

基本上，如果有人和我玩过这些游戏并且玩得很开心，我就会说‘好了，现在这是你自己的那份’。

But yeah, basically, if people play one of those games with me and have fun with it, I'm like, okay, now here's your own copy.

嗯。

Yeah.

我觉得其他那些游戏，大多数时候我们不会...我是说我们会送掉很多旧游戏之类的，但不会送同一款游戏的多份拷贝，因为我们通常没有那么多。

I think like for those other games, like most of the time we don't I mean, we give away a lot of our old games and stuff, but not like multiple copies of the same game because usually we don't have that.

不过，我之所以选儿童游戏是因为我经常给孩子们买礼物。

But, yeah, the reason mine was a kid's game is because like I tend to buy gifts for children more often.

是啊。

Yeah.

好吧。

Alright.

最后一个问题来自Taz Cat 24。

The final question is from Taz Cat 24.

过去十年里你经历了哪些重要的里程碑事件？

What milestones have gone by for you in the last ten years?

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

很多。

A lot.

我们是要先说完你的再说完我的，还是怎么安排？你想怎么做？

Do we wanna like do all of yours and all then all of mine or what how do you wanna do it?

按时间顺序来。

Chronologically.

我们能按时间顺序来吗？

Can we can we chronologically?

我不知道。

I don't I don't know.

嗯，比如，我在播客开始前就结婚了，然后我就

Well, so like, I got married before the podcast started, and then I was like

我也是，但我没有

Me too, but I don't

现在没什么事可做。

have anything to do now.

我是说，因为我办了自己的婚礼，策划了整个婚礼之类的事情，那段时间非常忙碌，然后我就觉得，现在突然有了这么多空闲时间。

I mean, well, because like I did my wedding, I planned my whole wedding and stuff, and that was very busy, and then I was like, you know, I have all this free time now.

所以后来就开始做播客了。

So then, started a podcast.

我是说，对啊，那你是什么时候结婚的？

I mean, yeah, I, so what year did you get married?

2015年。

2015.

好的，我是在2014年结的婚

Okay, so and I had gotten married in 2014

然后

and so

是啊，我们俩都是新婚不久，然后觉得无聊，就决定和陌生人一起开个播客。

then yeah, both of us were relatively newly married and then went, yeah, we're bored, let's start a podcast with some strangers.

就这样，故事开始了。

And so that was the beginning.

后来我又搬了好几次家。

And then, I mean, I've moved multiple times.

我们刚开始做节目时，卡西迪的女儿还是个婴儿。

When we started the show, Cassidy's daughter was an infant.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

刚出生没多久。

Was born and Yeah.

然后我们

Then we And

所以她两个月后就

so Like she two got months after.

是啊。

Yeah.

于是我们见证了卡西迪女儿成长过程中的每一个新阶段。

So Cassidy's daughter started growing up and we got to see the newness of that.

后来卡西迪退出了。

And then Cassidy stopped.

她离开了节目。

She left the show.

卡西迪在节目开播两三年后离开了，因为生活变得太忙碌。

Cassidy left the show after a Two couple of or three years after we started life just got a little bit too busy for her.

虽然她离开很久了，但我们依然爱她。

And we still love her even though she's been gone for now a way long time.

我们偶尔还会收到邮件。

We still get emails occasionally.

我记得网上某个地方还留着我们三个人的名字，所以至今仍会收到同时发给我们三人的邮件——尽管她早已不在节目里了。

I think there's somewhere on the internet like that still has all three of our names because we still sometimes get emails addressed to all three of us even though she hasn't been on the show in forever.

网站上关于页面还有她的信息，写着前主持人。

Site has her on the about page, it says former host.

哦，但人们可能不会注意到这个，是啊。

Oh, but people might not pay attention to that Yeah.

然后你的儿子们

Then your boys were

出生了。

born.

是的。

Yes.

我有了孩子。

I had kids.

我怀孕了。

I got pregnant.

那是个重要里程碑。

That was a milestone.

然后我分娩了，那是另一个重要时刻。

And then I gave birth and that was another milestone.

是双胞胎。

To twins.

对，双胞胎。

Yeah, twins.

在你怀孕之前，我不知道同卵双胞胎不是遗传因素决定的，那完全是随机发生的，对吧？

I did not know prior to you getting pregnant that identical twins were not a genetic thing, that it's just a random happenstance, right?

或者怎么说都行。

Or whatever.

是啊。

Yeah.

比如异卵双胞胎可能是遗传的。

Like fraternal twins are can be genetically passed down.

但同卵双胞胎基本上总是偶然现象。

But identical twins are always just like a fluke basically.

我觉得如果做试管婴儿之类的，同卵双胞胎的概率也会增加。

I think there might be like if you do IVF or something, there's like an increase in probability of identical twins too.

我不确定为什么。

I'm not sure why.

哦，真的吗？

Oh really?

好吧。

Okay.

我研究过一些，但不确定，可能是分裂几率更高，但同卵双胞胎就是卵子分裂形成的。

I did some studies on it, but I don't know, I guess it has more chance of splitting, but the identical twins are just when the egg splits.

不过异卵双胞胎的遗传因素是通过母亲传递的，比如更可能多排出一个卵子，所以这算是母亲的遗传特质。

But I guess the genetic thing with fraternal twins is that it passes down through the mom that like, there's more chance of an extra egg coming out, and so I guess that's a genetic thing through the mom.

是啊。

Yeah.

但我们很幸运。

But we were lucky.

我是说，我能分清你家的两个男孩，而且我总为此感到骄傲，比如当我知道谁是谁的时候。

I mean, I can tell your boys apart and I'm always so proud of it, like when I know who is who.

而且他们现在性格已经非常鲜明了。

And they have very distinct personalities at this point.

是啊。

Yeah.

但即使在他们还很小的时候，我第一次...我就想，哦，我知道哪个是凯文，哪个是罗伊。

But like, even when they were still pretty young, when I first like, I was like, Oh, I know which one is Kevin and I know which one is Roy.

我当时特别为自己骄傲。

I was so proud of myself.

因为我从不想搞混，因为我知道那些男孩会纠正我——你家孩子们特别机灵，他们会说'不对'，所以我就想我绝不能弄错。然后2020年就来了。

Because I never wanted to screw it up because I like I knew that those boys would correct me like your kiddos are on the ball and they would be like, No, I was like, I'm not gonna mess it So then 2020 happened.

没错，那确实是个大事件。

Yes, that was that was big.

2020年确实是个重要年份，尤其对我而言。当然，我是说疫情对每个人影响都很大。

2020 was a really big year, especially for me and not like, I mean, the pandemic was huge for everybody.

但我在2020年还离婚了，并搬进了自己买的房子，这虽然很可怕，但也非常令人兴奋。

But I, in 2020 also got divorced and moved into my own house that I purchased by myself, which was terrifying, but also really exciting.

离婚在当时显然不是件开心的事，但最终证明这对我和我的生活都是件好事。

And getting divorced was obviously not like a happy thing at the time, but it ended up being a really good thing for me and my life.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

这让我得以与过去认识的一个人重新联系，他现在成了我的丈夫。

And it allowed me to reconnect with somebody from my past who is now my husband.

耶。

Yay.

我再婚了。

I got remarried.

简直像做梦一样

Literally lost

实现了人生里程碑。

Made a milestone.

是啊。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

所以我现在40岁，已经是第二次婚姻了。

So I'm now 40 years old and on my second marriage.

不过值得高兴。

But yay.

但我的两个侄子也都是过去十年里出生的。

But both of my nephews were also born in like the past ten years.

我的侄子们一直在长大，还在学习玩桌游。

Like I, my nephews were grow have been growing up and learning board games.

我去看望他们的时候，你们搬了家，你的孩子们也开始上学了。

When I've been visiting them, you moved, your boys started school.

是啊。

Yeah.

就像，他们也在成长，就像其他人一样在不断成长。

Like, They've like, been growing too, just like everyone else has been growing.

这些孩子都在不断长大。

All these kids keep growing.

我只是觉得，这既让人伤感又美好，因为他们小时候特别可爱，但能和他们进行真正的对话也很棒。

I just, and it's both like sad and wonderful at the same time because they're so cute when they're little, but then it's also really neat to be able to have like actual conversations with them too.

是啊。

Yeah.

他们小时候可爱但也挺难带的。

They're cute but like hard when they're little.

我们总看到两三岁的孩子，这个阶段外表最可爱，但也最难应付，因为他们还不太会好好沟通。

We keep seeing like people like two and three, two to three is like the peak cuteness just visually, but also like very tough to deal with because they're not like really communicating well.

对，他们看起来没那么可爱了，但——

Yeah, they're not as cute visually but they're

不，我还是觉得他们挺可爱的，不过——

No, I still think they're pretty cute but

不想

don't want

处理其他那些事情。

to deal with the rest of the stuff.

我只看到了可爱的一面。

I just get to see the cuteness.

是啊，但如果你看三年前的照片——Facebook总给我推送这些——他们那时候真是可爱极了。

Yeah, but if you look back at pictures like from three years ago, which Facebook always shows me, they were so cute.

好吧，或许怀旧就到此为止吧。

Well, perhaps that's enough reminiscing.

我们这期节目肯定已经很长了，但我不想老调重弹，可我还是要说，我无比感激你Ambi，也感谢听众们给我们做这档节目的机会，因为它以我意想不到的方式改变了我的生活，也在很多方面丰富了我的人生。

We're definitely, this is going to be a long episode already, but I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I am so, so, so thankful and grateful to you, Ambi, and to our listeners for giving us the opportunity to make this show because it has changed my life in ways that I did not expect and has enriched my life in a lot of ways as well.

所以我真的非常非常感谢你，感谢他们，也感谢我们能坚持做这件事近十年之久。

And so I am just really, really grateful for you and for them and for the fact that we've been able to do this for almost ten years now.

是啊。

Yeah.

本周的《桌游闪电战》就到这里。

And that's it for this week's Board Game Blitz.

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本期节目由灰狐游戏赞助播出。

This episode was sponsored by Grey Fox Games.

《吸血鬼幸存者》桌游的延迟众筹仍在开放中。

Late pledges are still available for Vampire Survivors the board game.

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下次见。

Until next time.

52万5600个花絮。

525,600 bloopers.

52万5000个。

525,000.

它来了。

It's here.

五十二万五千六百分钟。

Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes.

你如何衡量一个播客职业生涯？

How do you measure a podcasting career?

再见，各位。

Bye, everyone.

时不时地，我要打喷嚏了，等一下。

Semi frequently, I'm gonna sneeze, hold on.

当时就像，好吧，卡住了。

It was like, okay, was stuck.

它消失了。

It's gone.

我们可能真有那么多花絮。

We might have had that many bloopers.

很可能。

Probably.

老实说。

Honestly.

250期节目里，我们已经取得了525,000次成功。

In 250 episodes, we've had 525,000 success.

听起来差不多。

That sounds about right.

是啊。

Yeah.