时光的回响

但其实会有几种不同类型的行动结果。

But there's really a there's a couple different types of actions that can result.

一种是我不太记得他们怎么称呼了，但这是当你激活的板块颜色相同时可以使用的持续性角色行动。

One type is I forget what they call it, but it's the ongoing character action that you can play when the active tile is the same color.

也就是红色、蓝色或黄色这些颜色。

So the, you know, red or blue or yellow.

一旦角色进入你的同伴队伍，每当出现相同颜色的板块时，你就可以使用这个行动。

Those once the character goes up into your fellowship, then anytime that tile comes up with the same color, then you can use that action.

还有一种是即时行动。

There's also an instant action.

当某个角色刚进入你的同伴队伍时，你可以立即执行一次性的行动，之后这个行动就消失了，这使得这类角色非常适合用来尝试征服某个力量源泉——因为你显然不会再用到他们的行动了。

So as soon as a particular character goes into your fellowship, then you get to do a one time action that is instant and then goes away, which of course makes them a great type of character to use to go say try to conquer one of the sources of power because you know you're not gonna be trying to use their action again.

此外，还有一些卡牌会赋予你一种永久性的能力，随时都会触发。

Then there's also some cards that give you an ongoing ability that just triggers all the time.

特别是关于神器卡牌，这是另一种类型的卡牌，它可能会写明：每当你打出这种卡牌、或者抽到这种卡牌、或者将这种卡牌加入同伴队伍时，你就能获得一个积分token，或者抽牌，或者执行其他相关行动。

So I think in particular with artifacts, which is another type of card in there, it may say, a point token every time you play this kind of card or this kind of card or draw, this type of card into your fellowship and you get a point or you get to draw cards or you get to do some action that that's relevant.

而且，我认为最具战略意义、最有趣的一点在于，如何构建你的引擎，也就是获取那些能让你快速反复触发有用行动的卡牌。

And again, the thing that's, I think the most interesting strategically to think about the most interesting thing is how to build your engine in the sense of getting the cards that are going to allow you to trigger actions over and over again quickly that are gonna be useful to you.

我一直想着这一点，在整个游戏中，我从一开始就知道自己表现得非常糟糕，最终排名垫底。

So the one that I keep thinking about and all through this game, I I knew from the start that I had failed miserably and I came in a distant last in this game.

但我心里也在想，我知道下次该怎么做。

But I was also thinking to myself, oh, I know what I would do next time.

比如，有很多蓝色卡牌。

And so for example, there's multiple blue cards.

所以你知道，这些卡牌触发的频率会更高。

And so you know those are gonna trigger more often.

我发现自己经常没牌可抽。

I'm like, oh, I'm running out of cards a lot.

而且有很多卡牌都有类似蓝色行动的效果，能让我抽牌。

And there's a lot of cards that have an action like a blue action that lets me draw cards.

这本来是我该做的。

That's what I should have done.

那样我就能不断触发这些效果，获得更多的卡牌。

So then I'd be constantly triggering these actions, getting more cards.

这个游戏中的协同效应在第一次玩时并没有清晰地呈现给我，或者说在第一局开始时没有。

The the synergies in this didn't really present themselves clearly to me on first play or I should say at the beginning of the first play.

但在第一局进行到一半时，我突然明白了。

But about halfway through the first play, I was going, I see now.

这就是我下次会做的事情。

This is what I would do next time.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

这里有几个这样的例子。

Just a couple examples of that.

比如，我的起手牌中有几张带有黄色效果的卡牌，它们都不错。

Like, with my opening hand, I had a couple cards that had yellow effects, and they were both decent.

但我手牌里有一张卡，上面写着当它进场时会触发一个黄色效果。

But I had a card in my thing that said when it came into play, it triggered a yellow effect.

所以我的初始计划是，把其中一个这样的卡放在我的时间轨道最前面，再把这张卡放在它后面，这样当那张卡触发时，黄色效果的卡就不在我的场地上了。

So my initial plan was to, like, put one of those guys at this front of my time track, put that guy behind it so that that yellow card would be out of my tableau when that guy landed.

我还有一张卡，上面写着当它进场时，每有一张花费三点或以上时间的卡，我就得一分。

And then I had another one that said, when he came into play, I get a point for every card that costs three time or more when he came into play.

所以我前两三轮几乎都在努力打出一些花费三点时间的卡，把它们往前推，然后在后面才放上那张卡。

So I literally set up the first, like, three or four rounds of the game was just trying to put out some guys that cost three, try to move them up, and then I dumped that guy in later on.

当然，找到一些小方法把这些卡组合起来玩，真的很有趣。

So it was fun to just find little ways to combo these guys together for sure.

我还想提一下关于玩家互动的另一件事。

I was gonna mention one more thing about player interaction.

Chris一开始说，我知道Adam会抱怨什么。

Chris started off saying, I know what Adam's gonna complain about.

我打算把这件事写在这张纸上，然后游戏结束时，Adam就会说这句话。

It's gonna I'm I'm gonna write it down on this note, and then at the end of the game, Adam's gonna say this.

但游戏进行到一半时，克里斯说：‘亚当，你不会对这个有意见了。’

But then halfway through the game, Chris goes, oh, Adam, you're not gonna complain about that.

他当时在谈玩家互动，这是因为你要评估其他玩家牌阵的强度。

It's and he was talking about player interaction, and it is because you're checking the strength of other players' tableaus.

他们会去争夺这些力量来源吗？

Are they gonna go for these sources of power?

我现在需要采取什么行动来强化这个牌，还是可以先做别的事，等之后再考虑强化，以及克里斯或蒂姆在他们回合会做什么？

What action do I need to go fortify this one right now, or can I do something else first before I have to fortify it and worry about what Chris or what Tim are are gonna do on their turn?

所以你要观察其他玩家的牌阵，看他们有多强、打算做什么，以及如果有利，你需要多大投入才能夺取他们的力量来源。

So you are looking at other players, tableau, seeing how much strength they have, what they're gonna do, how much do you need to go take over their source of power if that's advantageous.

因此，我认为这款游戏的玩家互动程度很不错，以防有人对此有疑问。

So there is, I think, nice level of player interaction in this game in case anybody was wondering about that.

是的。

Yeah.

果然，你必须密切关注这一点，因为我发现当我夺取了蒂姆的力量来源后，他在下一回合立刻就把它夺了回去。

And sure enough, you better be paying attention to it because I learned that when I took over Tim's source of power and he immediately in the next turn took it back from me.

我最初对这款游戏的评价太低了，实际上它的玩家互动远比我想象的要多。

There was a lot more player interaction than I initially gave this game credit for.

有不少卡牌确实涉及与其他玩家的互动，但大多只是些小规模的干扰效果，比如让别人弃牌之类的。

There's a decent number of cards that actually have player interaction with the other players, but mostly they're kind of like minor take that effects, like make people discard a card or whatever.

但更有趣的玩家互动在于，你想要观察其他玩家在他们的牌阵中积累的力量，确保自己能领先他们，争夺那些权力之地。

But the more interesting player interaction was just wanting to watch other people's power build up in their tableaus and make sure you could stay ahead of them and race them for those places of power.

好的。

Alright.

让我们进入《时光回响》的主题与制作部分。

Let's jump into the theme and production of Echoes of Time.

我会把最好的留到最后，先从主题说起。

I'm gonna leave the best for last, and I'm gonna start with theme.

我其实完全不了解这个游戏的主题是什么，但我不在乎，因为这讲的是森林生物去寻找这些地方并争夺它们。

So I don't actually know really at all what the theme was here, but I don't care because it's woodland creatures going and finding these places and fighting over them.

我不知道为什么时间元素会被加入其中。

I don't I don't know why time was in it.

我可能错过了规则书开头的故事之类的。

I didn't maybe I missed the story at the beginning of the rule book or something like that.

所以这就是主题。

So that's the the theme.

它除了显得可爱之外，并没有太多含义。

It doesn't mean much other than it's cute.

等我们说到制作部分时，再聊更多激动人心的内容。

We'll talk a lot more about exciting stuff when we get to the production part

部分。

of it.

是的。

Yeah.

你把制作部分留到最后讲，蒂姆，这真是太好了。

You're saving the production for last, Tim, which is which is excellent.

制作质量非常出色。

The the production is fantastic.

所以，是的，关于主题，我同意你的看法。

So, yeah, theme, I'm with you.

这里发生了什么？

What was going on here?

这很可爱。

It's cute.

像你说的，画面很美，我来谈谈制作部分。

Like you said, there's beautiful I'm gonna talk about the production.

卡牌插画很美，各种能量来源也都非常出色。

There's beautiful card artwork, beautiful the sources of power are all amazing.

它们都带来了惊人的效果。

They do incredible things.

这里的艺术家在光影运用上做得非常出色，明暗对比处理得极佳。

The artist here does some amazing things with light here, the dark and light sort of aspects of it.

插画师是乔瓦尼·卡卢雷，或者说是乔瓦尼·卡卢雷。

The art is Giovanni Calure or Giovanni Calure.

我非常喜欢这个游戏的艺术风格。

I love the art in this game.

我根本停不下来一直看。

I couldn't stop looking at it.

我现在正在浏览板游竞技场上的图片，哦不对，是板游迷，真的非常迷人。

I'm clicking through pictures on board game arena now or not board game arena, board game geek right now, and it's just charming.

它们都美极了。

They're just beautiful.

所以你可以一直不停地看下去。

So you can keep looking looking in.

就像我之前说的，我们在板游迷上也提到过，那里有一些草图，展示了这些作品的创作过程，而这些草图最终看起来和卡片上的成品艺术非常相似。

And like I said, we mentioned it before, there's some sort of sketches on Board Game Geek as well to show you the development of these things and the sketches end up looking a lot like the final piece of art on the cards.

那么，哪个是先出现的呢？

So which came first?

是草图，还是卡片？

The sketches or the cards?

希望这些草图是先创作的，而不是反过来。

Hopefully, the sketches came first and not the other way around.

所以这就是我要相信的事情，我会这么想。

So that's how I'm gonna that's what I'm gonna believe in my mind.

但这些艺术作品真是太棒了。

But the art is just fantastic.

怎么看都看不够。

Can't get enough of it.

主题呢？

Theme?

对。

Yeah.

随便吧。

Whatever.

是的。

Yeah.

关于主题，我的意思是，理论上，我认为它的设定是你要组建一支冒险者团队，去收集这些力量之源。

I the theme, I mean, theoretically, I think what it's supposed to be is that you're building a team of of adventurers who wanna go out and capture these sources of power.

我的意思是，这并不深奥。

I mean, you know, it's not deep.

它非常基础。

It's it's pretty basic.

我不知道有没有太多背景故事。

I don't know that there's a lot of backstory.

我其实没怎么深入研究过。

I didn't really look into it.

但你知道，对于这种高奇幻冒险场景构建游戏来说，需要多少主题呢？

But, you know, how much theme does it need for, you know, a high fantasy adventuring tableau builder like this?

可能不需要太多。

Probably not too much.

我还有一些关于制作方面的看法，但我知道蒂姆想插话进来。

I have some things to say about about the production as well, but I know this is something that Tim wants to jump into.

所以，蒂姆，我先让你来说说你对制作方面的看法。

So, Tim, I'm gonna let you jump in first and say what you wanna say about the about the production.

我知道亚当已经提了一点，之后我会补充任何遗漏的部分。

I know Adam already said a little bit, and then I'll I'll fill in any blanks after that.

最明显的是，这张牌的插画简直太棒了。

Well, most obviously, the the card art is just fantastic.

每一张发下来的牌都是如此。

Like, every single card that came down.

我不只关心我手里的牌。

I didn't just care about the cards in my hand.

每次你们打出一张牌，我都会去看，我真的非常喜欢。

Every time one of you guys played a card down, I went and I looked at it, and I and I just I loved it.

这里面没有一张插画是我看了不会感到开心的。

Like, there wasn't a single piece of art in here that I didn't get some joy out of just looking at.

它们全都很有魅力。

They're all charming.

但其中一些并不仅仅是可爱。

Some of them are not just charming, though.

一些显得高贵。

Some of them are regal.

一些则有点令人畏惧。

Some of them are a little intimidating.

一些甚至很吓人。

Some of them are scary.

比如我最喜欢的一幅画，我们之前在Chris提到他想在2026年玩的这个游戏时就聊过。

Like, my favorite piece, and we mentioned this when Chris brought this game up on the games he wanted to play in 2026.

恭喜你，Chris。

Congrats, Chris.

你终于完成了。

You got it done.

但第一幅让我印象深刻的作品是这只野兔。

But the the first piece of art that stood out to me was this jackrabbit.

它叫狂战士。

It's called the Berserker.

他双手握着两把战斧，看起来酷极了。

He's got two battle axes in his hand, and he just looks so cool.

但这里还有很多其他看起来强大而出色的生物。

But there's a lot of other great powerful looking creatures in here as well.

这不仅仅关乎可爱的林地生物。

So this is not just about cute woodland creatures.

这整个艺术风格都令人兴奋不已。

It's a it's exciting art through and through.

所以，当然，对我而言，艺术是最突出的亮点。

So, yeah, the obviously, the art is the highlight for me.

我还有更多要说的，但这绝对是我会首先提到的部分。

I've got more to say, but that's that's where I definitely would have started.

我这里说的是玩家版，就是你在左边滑入一个板块，右边就会弹出另一个板块的那种。

I'm talking about the player boards here, the ones where you're sliding in a piece on the left and a piece pops out on the right.

这些部件拼成了一个美丽的马赛克。

These things make a beautiful mosaic.

它们通过一个小楔子连接，形成美丽的背景景观图，要么是夜景，要么是朦胧神秘的氛围，背景还有美丽的瀑布。

So they're connected with a little wedge, and they make a beautiful background, the landscape picture, either there's like a nighttime side, or they're all kind of dusky and mysterious looking and beautiful waterfalls in the background.

当你滑动这些时间卡时，它们会创造出一个类似旗帜或海报的美丽马赛克。

And they create the yeah, like this little banner, this poster, a beautiful mosaic as you're sliding these time cards around.

而且，这可以说是一种无限马赛克。

And, you know, it's kind of an infinity mosaic.

左边的和右边的可以任意拼接，彼此完美契合。

The left one fits with the right and the right one fits with the left in any way you put them.

不过它们必须按正确的顺序摆放。

They do have to go in the right order.

就像自动扶梯一样，它们会不断匹配，形成你放置卡牌的美丽马赛克。

So like think of an escalator or something, they're gonna constantly match up and create these beautiful mosaics that you're playing your cards on.

我觉得这是一个很巧妙的设计。

So I thought that was a nice touch.

这些玩家版图底部还按回合顺序列出了你的行动步骤，比如滑动你的计时器、抽牌，下面还留有空间列出所有行动和免费行动。

Those player boards also have your actions right at the bottom in the sequence of the round order, you know, the slide your timepiece over draw card, and then it's got room for all the actions down there and the free actions.

因此，这套简单的规则通过行动区域和回合引导呈现得极为出色。

So the simple rule set is presented incredibly nicely with the action spaces and the guidance through the round.

做得很好。

So well done.

我要附议你们之前对美术的评价。

I'm gonna second what you guys have said already about the art.

我要大胆说一句，这可能是我见过的最喜爱的十款甚至前五款桌游美术作品之一。

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this has gotta be maybe in my top 10, maybe top five favorite board game art that I've ever seen.

我要把很大一部分功劳归于这款游戏的美术师乔瓦尼·卡洛雷，因为尽管我非常喜欢《Everdell》，但《Everdell》明显走的是可爱拟人化动物的风格。

And I give a lot of credit to Giovanni Calore who did the art in this one because as much as I love Everdell, for example, Everdell is clearly going for the cute anthropomorphic animal thing.

而克洛里在这里做的一件令人惊叹的事，就是让这些动物看起来几乎像照片般写实，却又置身于完全不合常理的场景中。

And one of the things that Clori has done here that I think is incredible is make these animals look almost photorealistic, but at the same time in these completely implausible situations.

比如这张，它是一位女王。

Like this one, it's a queen.

这是一只戴着王冠和长袍的青蛙。

It's a frog wearing a queen's crown and gowns.

它非常可爱，因为青蛙本身就讨人喜欢，但同时又显得非常严肃。

And it's adorable because frogs are inherently adorable, but it also looks very serious.

或者你提到的狂战士，蒂姆，他一点都不可爱。

Or the Berserker that you mentioned, Tim, he's not cute.

这不是一只可爱的杰克兔。

I mean, is not a cute jackrabbit.

这是一位准备大干一场的家伙。

This is a dude getting ready to kick some butt.

他双手持斧，眼睛里还冒着闪电。

He's like double handed axes and he's got the, you know, lightning bolts coming out of his eyeballs.

他看起来一点也不可爱或萌。

And I mean, he does not look adorable or cute.

他看起来太酷了。

He looks awesome.

我的那只松鼠，那个孩子，森林的皇帝，他看起来非常高贵。

And my, my squirrel, the the kid, the emperor of the forest, I mean, he, it was so regal looking.

这不仅仅是可爱。

It wasn't just cute.

我认为这是一项了不起的成就，因为通常当你设计一个拟人化的动物时，往往只是给人类身体加上一个动物脑袋。

And I, I think that's kind of an impressive accomplishment because you normally, if you have an anthropomorphic animal, a lot of times you're just taking something, you know, a human body and throwing an animal head on it.

但这里并不是这样做的。

And that's not what they did here.

它的设计比那要出色得多。

It it was much more impressive than that.

我也很喜欢那条河流，还有你和亚当提到的动态全景图。

I did also like the the river and what you talked about Adam with the the kind of the moving panorama, the picture.

我觉得这非常酷，但说实话，这部作品的核心故事和最精彩的表现都在卡牌插画上。

I thought that was very cool but really, I mean, this the the main story of the production here and where it truly shown was in the card art.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

所以，除了艺术和制作之外，用户体验也很棒。

So user experience aside from the art and the production was cool.

用户体验非常好。

The user experience was really good.

正如亚当提到的，你需要知道的所有信息基本上都在玩家版图上。

As Adam mentioned, everything you need to know is kind of on the player boards.

但作为一款卡牌组合构建游戏，我最喜欢的一点是，这里的卡牌艺术并不是语言无关的。

But here's my favorite thing about this as a card tableau builder, and that is that this is not language independent card art.

因为当卡牌上有大量不同效果时，很多游戏会试图创造一些符号来告诉你每项功能的作用。

Because when you've got a lot of different effects on cards, a lot of games will try to just make up symbols that tell you what everything does.

结果你就得面对一个庞大的附录，里面全是需要匹配和理解的各种符号。

And then you end up with this huge appendix of all the different symbols you have to try to match up and figure out what they're actually saying.

大约有10个图标，像我说的，很容易理解。

There is about 10 icons, like I said, pretty easy to understand.

如果这些图标在游戏中还有其他作用，卡片上都会明确写出来，我对此非常感激。

And if the icons do anything else in the game, it just spells it out on the cards, and I'm so thankful for that.

正如我之前提到的，在我的最终评价中，我还会谈谈其他几款牌组构建游戏。

I'm gonna talk about a couple other tableau builders as I mentioned in my final thoughts.

而这也是我对很多这类游戏的主要批评之一——它们堆满了卡片，却要我花大量精力去翻阅规则书，弄清楚某个图标的作用，或者两个图标如何相互影响，这种缺乏清晰度的情况很常见。

And that's one of the biggest criticisms I have with a lot of games like this that are a pile full of cards is how much extra processing you have to make me do to go and look up a you know, in a rule book to understand what an icon does or how two icons interact with each other and the the lack of clarity that can often come from that.

但在这里，我从未有过这种感觉。

And I never felt that here.

我一直觉得，每个出现的效果都极其清晰，因为如果需要以独特方式说明，他们就会直接加上文字。

I always knew I think it was a 100% clear with every effect that came up because if they needed to spell it out in a unique way, they just added some text to it.

所以我很高兴他们在这点上做了这样的处理。

So really glad that they did that with this.

总体而言，从制作角度来看，这是一款非常出色的作品。

Overall, a really huge hit from a production perspective.

我本来就会说，这显然是一个亮点。

I would have said, obviously, it's a highlight.

这可能是吸引我们的原因。

It's probably what drew us into.

这正是吸引克里斯想一探究竟的原因。

It's what drew Chris to wanna take a look at it.

幸运的是，这款游戏本身也很出色，但从我的角度来看，它的制作质量确实堪称惊艳。

Luckily, there's a great game here too, but the the production was certainly, you know, knock out of the park from my perspective.

我想补充一点让我有点失望的地方，这纯粹是我的个人看法：我觉得带有分数标记的游戏有点乏味。

The only thing that I wanna add that was a little bit of a letdown for me, and this is a very personal thing, I think games that have point tokens, I just think that is a bit of a lame feature.

这是我在这里对制作方面唯一的抱怨，那就是你必须分发分数标记，因为有很多卡牌会告诉你，比如这张卡值四分。

And that's the only complaint that I had up at the production here is that you have to distribute point tokens because there are lots of cards where they tell you, there's four points for example on the card.

所以你最终会把这些分数加起来，但有时候当某些事件发生时，你还得拿一个分数标记。

And so you'll you'll count that up at the end, but they also may require you to take a point token when something happens.

我明白他们为什么这么做。

And so I understand why they did it.

但我总觉得这种设计有点……说不上来。

I just always find that to feel it just I don't know.

我觉得这有点廉价。

Feels a little bit cheap to me.

我来反驳一下这个观点。

Here's a little bit of a counter to that.

我还是要提到《银河竞逐》。

And again, I'm gonna reference race for the galaxy.

这里的积分标记还起到了一种游戏内计时器的作用。

The point tokens here act as kind of an in game timer as well.

我觉得蒂姆说过每人有12个。

I think Tim said there's 12 per person.

对。

Yep.

所以在三人的游戏中，我们总共有36个。

So you have in this three player game, we had 36.

所以如果你的能源来源很难征服，很难……我该用什么词呢……

So if your sources of power are tough to conquer, tough to what's the word I'm looking for tough to

加固。

Fortify.

是的。

Yeah.

加固，像牛奶一样难加固。

Fortify, tough like milk, tough to fortify.

然后他们有这36个标记，也充当游戏计时器。

Then they have these 36 tokens that acts as a game timer as well.

所以数量不多，你不需要来回搬动这么多标记。

So it's not too many, you're not shuffling around all these tokens.

这是一个游戏计时器。

It's a game timer.

所以我可以稍微宽容一点。

So I can give it a slight pass.

通常情况下，克里斯，我同意你的看法。

Normally, Chris, I do agree with you.

积分标记这些东西真的很烦人。

The point token things are are pretty annoying.

那个搭桥的是哪个来着？

What was that one where you're building a bridge to like

口哨。

Whistle.

是的。

Yeah.

口哨。

Whistle.

口哨山。

Whistle Mountain.

口哨山。

Whistle Mountain.

我本来也想说同样的事。

I was gonna say the same thing.

那个不需要积分点。

That one did not need point tokens.

对，不需要积分点。

No, did not need point tokens.

所以在这里，我认为对我来说，使用积分点是合理的。

So here, I think it's a it's an acceptable use of point tokens for me.

同意。

Agreed.

它实际上和《银河竞逐》的触发机制一样，我记得亚当你说过，是因为积分点在最后起作用。

It's actually got the same race for the galaxy triggers by the I think, Adam, you said that, you know, because of point tokens at the end.

这个也是同样的情况。

This does the same.

但酷的是，这并不是你唯一要追求的目标，但它给你提供了一种方式，让你说：哦，明白了。

But the cool thing is, like, that's not the only thing you're driving towards, but it gives you, like, it gives you a way to say, like, oh, okay.

有人不会试图购买这些权力之地，因为他们那里有一个积分积累机制。

Somebody's not gonna try to buy to, like, conquer these places of power because they've got a point building engine in there.

对。

Right.

所以你不能任由它们留在那里，而没人去征服这些权力之地。

So you can't just let them sit there and nobody conquers a place of power.

最终，无论怎样，游戏都会结束。

Eventually, the game's gonna end regardless.

所以这很巧妙，它强制了这种条件。

So it's cool that it it forces that condition.

而且假设，有一堆点数令牌放在那里，你可以看到它们越来越少。

And presumably, have a pile of point tokens sitting there and you can see it get less and less and less.

哎呀。

Oh, shoot.

游戏快接近尾声了。

It's getting pretty close to the end of the game.

所以这是一个让你清楚知道游戏何时结束的视觉提示。

So a visual identifier to you as as to when the game's gonna end.

是的。

Yep.

蒂姆，你说到我心坎里了。

Tim, you took the words out of my mouth.

当我思考这个问题时，亚当在说话，我也在想跟你一样的事，那就是他们这么设计的原因，大概是想让你去争夺那些权力来源。

As I was thinking through this and Adam was talking, I was thinking the same thing you were, which is that's probably why they did it because what they really want you to do is go after those sources of power.

有很多卡牌能让你通过点数标记得分，但那样赢也太无趣了。

And there are plenty of cards that let you get points by point tokens and but that what a lame way that would be to win.

对吧？

Right?

你真正想做的，是去争夺那些权力来源。

You really wanna be going for those sources of power.

对。

Yeah.

亚当说，这正是我想要的，老兄。

Adam's like, that's how I want, dude.

没关系。

It's okay.

我想赢就是赢。

I guess a win is a win.

对吧？

Right?

你让我开始思考了

You you got me wondering

现在，在《银河竞逐》中，收集所有这些点数标记是一种策略，一种生产策略，你通过获取大量点数标记，可以在别人还没完成他们的布局之前就耗尽它们。

now if getting all the so in Race for the Galaxy, that's one of those strategies, a production strategy where you're getting all these point tokens, you can exhaust that before somebody even completes their tableau.

所以我现在在想，这种策略在这款游戏中是否可行。

So now I'm wondering if that is a viable strategy in this game.

只专注于获取这些点数标记，每回合每项行动能获得四、五、六个点数，也许这也是一种可行的获胜方式。

Just go after those point tokens and you're getting four, five, six points per per action per round, and maybe maybe that's a viable way to win too.

所以这也是一个值得探索的有趣策略。

So that'd be kind of a neat strategy to explore also.

好的。

Alright.

那我们开始回答问题吧。

Well, let's jump into our question.

我们总是会问：你会要求玩这个游戏吗？

We always ask, would you request to play the game?

我们在这里谈谈我们的最终想法。

And we'll talk about our final thoughts here.

我先说，我绝对会玩。

I'm gonna start out by saying absolutely I would.

这个游戏简直就是为我量身定做的。

This game is kinda made for me.

我超爱这种小格局构建类游戏。

I love these little tableau builders.

我一直在寻找这类游戏。

I I'm always searching them out.

我确实有时会感到失望。

I have definitely been disappointed at times.

很多游戏对我来说并不完全合适，有时是节奏的问题。

A lot of them don't quite hit for me as far as sometimes it's the pacing of them.

有时候它们的流程就是行不通。

Sometimes the flow of them just don't work.

有时候卡片上的符号太多，查找所有规则简直让人头疼。

Sometimes it's like too much iconography on cards, and they're a pain in the butt to look up all the rules.

《Echoes of Time》真的深深打动了我。

Echoes of Time really, really hit for me.

我非常喜欢这款游戏，迫不及待想进一步探索。

I really enjoyed this game, and I cannot wait to explore more.

由于卡片种类丰富，以及手牌的不确定性，会涌现出许多有趣而独特的组合。

It feels like because of the variety of cards and what you're gonna get in your hand, there's gonna be some really fun, interesting combos to play with.

这不仅仅是构建 tableau，更重要的是以正确的顺序触发它们，这很酷。

It's not just about building a tableau, but it's about triggering them in the right order, which is cool.

关键是，你要知道该用哪些卡牌去占领这些权力之地，然后利用这些权力之地。

It's about, you know, which cards to try to use to capture those places of power and then maybe taking advantage of those places of power as well.

总的来说，这款游戏真的很出色。

All in, this game really worked.

我提到了几款类似的城市建设类游戏。

I mentioned a couple other tableau builders that are similar.

我说的类似，是指游戏的分量相似，都有大量的卡牌效果。

And when I mean similar, I'm thinking, like, similar in weight, similar in the fact that there are a bunch of card effects.

我第一个想到的是《Res Arcana》，这是一款我非常喜欢的游戏，过去五六年里它一直频繁出现在我的桌面上。

So the first one that really came to mind for me was Res Arcana, which is a game I do really enjoy, and it's it's been on my table a lot for the last five or six years.

但我认为这款游戏在某些方面更好。

But I think this is better in some ways.

我认为《Res Arcana》虽然做了一些很酷的东西，但总有一些细微的小动作。

I think Res Arcana, although it did some really cool stuff, it always did have some of those, like, little micro actions.

但这些小动作在这里并不存在。

That didn't feel like this here.

这款游戏总让人感觉每一轮都充满乐趣和刺激。

This game always felt like you had fun, exciting turns.

总会发生一些大事。

Something big was gonna happen.

即使只是抽两张牌，你也在充实手牌。

Even if it's just drawing two cards, then you're filling up that hand.

你在做些酷炫的事情。

You're doing something cool.

但如果你在移动时间轨道上的物品或打出一张牌，每一轮都充满乐趣。

But if you're moving stuff down the time track or playing a card, always fun turns.

这里很令人兴奋。

Exciting there.

我最近玩了《Aetherstone》，这款游戏也是由我认为是Cranio Creations发行的，但Luciani也参与了设计。

I recently played Aetherstone, which is also from, I think Cranio Creations published as well, but someone Luciani had his hand in that one as well.

这款游戏是在《Res Arcana》的框架基础上，使其变得更加复杂。

And that one, it was taking Res Arcana formula and making it more complex.

我喜欢它，它做了很多相同的事情。

And I did like it, and it did a lot of the same things.

比如，这两款游戏都有核心的权力区域，你需要争夺并积累一定分数来利用它们。

Like, both of those games have the central places of power that you're racing for to build up a certain amount of points or whatever to to take advantage of them.

《以太石》也是这样做的。

Aetherstones did the same thing.

它使用了一些略有不同的效果。

It, you know, it used some different slightly different effects.

但《以太石》几乎变得太复杂了，每张牌上都有一大段文字，需要处理的信息太多。

But with Aether Stones, it almost got too complex and that, like, every card had a wall of text on it and so much to process.

我觉得《回声之时》恰恰把握住了完美的平衡点——《Res Arcana》有时太简单，而《以太石》则常常信息过载。

And I felt like Echoes of Time really hit that perfect little middle mark right in the middle where, like, Resurcano is sometimes too simple, and Aetherstone feels like sometimes it's just gonna be too much information overload.

我看不到其他玩家那边在做什么，因为文字太多，事情也太杂了。

I can't see what everyone else is doing on their side of the table because it's too much text to read and too much thing too many things going on.

都是不错的游戏。

All fine games.

这些游戏都不错。

Like, these are all fine.

出人意料的是，我认为《Echoes of Time》是我玩过的三款游戏中最好的，我真的很喜欢这些游戏。

Echoes of Time, shockingly, I think was the best of the three that I've played, and I really like those games.

所以我对这款游戏非常期待。

So I'm really excited about this.

另一款让我感到兴奋的近期表格构建游戏是《马拉开波海盗》。

The one other recent Tableau builder that I think got me as excited was Pirates of Maracaibo.

但《马拉开波海盗》的体量稍微大一些。

But Pirates of Maracaibo does have a little bit more of a bigger game to it.

它更像《Everdell》，有种重量感，有很多其他元素在进行。

It's more of a Everdell almost, you know, weight where there's, like, lots of other stuff going on.

所以我非常欣赏这一点。

So I I really appreciate that.

《Echoes of Time》就是一款简单的表格构建游戏。

Echoes of Time is just, like, the simple little tableau builder.

组件不多。

There's not a lot of components.

我猜设置这个游戏只要五分钟：分发棋盘，堆好一大叠卡牌，每人发七张牌，然后就可以开始了。

I bet the setup on this is five minutes to hand out the boards, create this big stack of cards, deal everyone seven cards, and you're going.

你直接开始玩。

You're started.

这很棒。

And and that's cool.

这会是一个完美的三十分钟小游戏，适合两到三名玩家玩。

This is gonna be a great little thirty minute game to knock out two or three players.

我最近一直在想《Resarcona》，说实话，我很喜欢它。

You know, I've been kind of thinking about Resarcona a lot to say, I like it a lot.

但我发现它没怎么受到大家欢迎，而且它也有一些小问题。

I haven't found it hit with a lot of people, and it's I've got some little quirks with it.

所以我一直在考虑把《Resarcona》从我的收藏中退出，但我还是会想念这个快速的卡牌格局游戏。

So I've been thinking about exiting Resarcona for my collection, but I I would miss that little quick card tableau builder.

我觉得《时光回响》会更容易被玩到。

I think Echoes of Time would get played more easily.

我的意思是，Resarcona 是一款很美的游戏，艺术设计很棒，但我认为它需要更吸引人的制作方式，才能吸引更多人，并且更容易教学和安排。

I mean, listen, Rezarcon is a beautiful game, great artwork and stuff, but I think it's gotta be a more exciting production for to draw people in and just easier to teach and and easier to get planned.

所以我真的很喜欢《时光回响》。

So really like Echoes of Time.

我会主动要求再玩一次《时光回响》吗？

Would I request to play Echoes of Time again?

当然会。

Absolutely.

是的，蒂姆。

Yes, Tim.

我觉得这是一款很棒的牌阵构建游戏。

I thought this was a great tableau builder.

所以我之前把它和《银河竞逐》比较过，我很喜欢《银河竞逐》。

So I compared it to Race for the Galaxy before, which I enjoy Race for the Galaxy.

有点乏味了。

It's getting a little stale.

我玩过它，不知道多少次了，大概三四百次吧。

I played it, I don't know, 300 times or something 400 times.

我觉得这个比《Race for the Galaxy》更好。

And it's like, I like this one better than Race for the Galaxy.

蒂姆，你提到了《Res Arcana》，但我一直没怎么入坑《Res Arcana》。

Tim, you mentioned Res Arcana, which I never really got into Res Arcana that much.

它的某些地方感觉有点卡顿。

Something about it seemed a little hiccupy.

这里的流畅感不够。

There wasn't that much flow here.

我特别喜欢这个游戏的流畅性，比如决定是去争夺能量源，还是稍微退后一步，构建你的格局，或者尝试征服领土。

I really enjoyed the flow of this one, the decision whether to go after the sources of power or hold back a little bit, build your tableau or try to conquer the lands.

你打算怎么做？

What are you gonna do?

我喜欢这个选择。

I like that choice.

我喜欢你通过那个小时间板移动来构建你的牌阵的方式。

And I like how the how you're getting how you're building your tableau with that little time board moving over.

我还想把它和《Gnar》比较一下。

Another one I wanted to compare it to was Gnar.

它有点像一个牌阵。

It's kind of a little tableau.

它让我产生了和《Gnar》相似的感觉。

It gave me similar feelings to Gnar.

我不知道你们有没有玩过这个游戏。

I don't know if you guys have ever played that one.

它的美术也很精美。

Has beautiful art as well.

这个游戏，我再次觉得它的流程更好，可做的选择也更丰富。

This one, again, I like the flow here a little better and the choices that you get to make.

所以就快速的小型格局构建游戏而言，这款游戏现在位居榜首。

So as far as quick little tableau builders, this is sitting at the top from here now.

这仅仅玩了一次。

It's just been one play.

所以，这就是我玩了一次之后的想法。

So that's, you know, that's my thoughts after one play.

但艺术风格、制作和流程，我本来还想说点什么？

But the art, the production, the flow what else I was gonna say?

还有别的事。

Something else.

我不确定。

I don't know.

它就是不让人烦。

It just wasn't annoying.

有些格局构建游戏确实很烦人，但这款完全没有让我感到任何不适。

Some of these tableau builders can be annoying, and I didn't get any kind of annoying ick from this one.

它就是运行得很顺畅。

It just worked well.

而且我可能对这个有赢家偏见。

And then I probably have the winners bias on this one.

我没觉得自己会赢。

I didn't think I was gonna win.

我们在计分的时候，我以为蒂姆会赢。

I thought Tim was gonna win this one as we were counting up the points.

这里非常有趣，有很多很棒的决策。

A lot of fun here, a lot of great decisions.

我觉得这局游戏我们花了一个小时。

And I think the game took us an hour.

这是第一次玩。

That was a first play.

我觉得你说得对，蒂姆。

And I think you're right, Tim.

当你对这个游戏更熟悉后，可能只需要三十到四十五分钟。

Maybe thirty, forty five minutes as you get more familiar with this one.

很快。

It's quick.

很有趣。

It's fun.

呼应了时间。

Echoes the time.

是的。

Yes.

我希望能再玩一次这个游戏。

I would request to play this one again.

而这一小时里，我们还要处理理解规则、在首次游玩时摸索规则，以及应对桌面模拟器的各种小问题。

And that was an hour while dealing with, you know, understanding the rules, trying to understand the rules on a first play, and dealing with all the quirks of tabletop simulator.

所以，这绝对会是一个快速又简单的游戏。

So, you know, it it would definitely be a quick easy one.

所以这是我选的。

So this was my pick.

这本来列在我2026年想玩的游戏清单上，我很开心，今年的第一个选择、也是我从清单上第一个划掉的游戏，竟然是一款这么棒的游戏。

This was on my want to play in 2026 list and I am super happy that my first pick of the year and the first the first game that I ticked off that list was a really good game.

我绝对想再玩一次这个。

I absolutely want to play this one again.

当我玩游戏时，心里想着‘天啊，我知道我想要什么了’，这总是个好兆头。

It's always a good sign when I'm sitting there in the midst of the game going, oh man, I know what I want.

下次玩的时候，我知道自己想怎么做了。

Next time I play this, I know what I want to do.

我想试试这样做，还想那样做，哦，我明白你还能怎么玩别的了。

I want to try to do this and I want to do this and I, oh, I see how you could do this other thing.

这种感觉太棒了。

That feels so good.

我对《Rez Arcana》的记忆不够深刻，没法确定我脑子里有没有觉得它们有相似之处。

I don't remember enough about Rez Arcana to to really remember whether there were similarities in in my mind.

如果你们在讨论这个，那肯定有相似之处。

I'm sure there are if you guys are talking about that.

我记得我对《Rez Arcana》并没有特别喜欢。

I remember not loving Rez Arcana that much.

我觉得原因和你说的一样，亚当，它感觉有点过于挑剔了，你和蒂姆都提到过，比如轮到你时，只是拿个资源这种简单动作都显得很繁琐。

I think for the same reasons you said, Adam, they just, it felt a little bit overly picky you and and like Tim, you had also mentioned the taking a turn to do something as simple as like getting a resource or or what have you.

但在这里我完全没有这种感觉。

I didn't feel any of that here.

我觉得它在战略规划上非常深邃，因为时间因素为整体策略和战术增添了大量维度——不仅在于选择要出哪些牌，还要确保我能多次使用它们，比如我用过的森林之帝。

I felt like it was extremely deep in terms of strategic planning because there were so many things that the time factor added into the overall strategy and the tactics in terms of not only picking what cards do I wanna play, but making sure that I'm gonna be able to use them more than once, for example, like I did with my emperor of the forest.

你需要确保手牌之间能良好配合。

You wanna make sure that you've got cards that are gonna interact well with each other.

你必须确保在需要时，这些牌能及时到手。

You have to make sure that they're going to be available to you when you need to interact with them.

你还得确保它们的行动能被触发，因为那些特定的时间标记会足够频繁地出现在活跃区域。

You have to make sure that their actions are going to be available to you because those particular time tiles are gonna be coming out into the active space often enough.

策略内容如此丰富，而规则却异常简单。

So much going on in terms of strategy with a super simple rule set.

尽管我们刚才提到故事有些模糊，但我仍想在这个世界里多花些时间。

And notwithstanding the stuff that we were saying about the kind of vague story here, this is a world I wanna spend more time in.

我想和森林之帝、狂战士、女王、蝾螈在一起，还有那个看起来非常凶恶的地底领主——一只巨大可怕的鼹鼠。

I wanna spend time with emperor of the forest and the berserker and the queen and the axolotl and there was this really menacing looking lord of the underworld that was this big gruesome looking mole.

蒂姆用了这个角色。

And Tim had this guy.

他长得特别像一个流氓样的獾，等等，不对，他不是獾。

He was this really like thuggish looking badger or I know thuggish, he wasn't a badger.

他是一只土拨鼠。

He was a groundhog.

这只土拨鼠名叫‘大人物’，长得特别凶神恶煞。

It was a really thuggish looking groundhog called the big shot.

我想和这些角色多待一会儿。

I wanna spend time with these guys.

我想在这个世界里多待一段时间，只是好好感受一下。

I wanna spend time in this world and just, you know, soaking that up.

我也是这么做的。

I was doing the same thing.

蒂姆也是。

Tim was.

我每出一张牌都会去看，纯粹因为太有趣了。

I was looking at every card that came out just for fun because it was so enjoyable.

你了解我的。

And you know me.

我特别喜欢主题，也特别喜欢制作水准。

I'm a sucker for theme and a sucker for production.

如果你能把一个出色的游戏配上卓越的制作，那我更有可能把它拿到桌面上玩，或者努力说服别人把它拿到桌面上玩。

And if you can put a solid game with an outstanding production, that makes it so much more likely that I'm gonna be getting it to the table or trying to convince others to get it to the table.

所以，是的，《时光回响》对我来说是个巨大的成功。

So yes, Echoes of Time is a big win to me.

我可能会考虑入手这一款。

I might be looking to pick this one up.

不错。

Cool.

我稍微查了一下，看起来这款游戏可能是2025年从Kickstarter发货的。

Now I looked this up a little bit, and, it looks like this was delivered from Kickstarter maybe in 2025.

我不确定它是否已经在美国内地的零售渠道上市，或者有没有上市。

I don't think it's out in retail in The US yet or if it is.

很难说清楚。

It was hard to tell.

我找不到任何相关信息。

I couldn't find anything.

所以这可能不会很快在商店里见到。

So this may not be something that we're gonna see in stores soon.

我希望他们能找到办法在美国分销，这样我们就能比较容易地买到副本了。

I do hope that they find a way to distribute it here in The US so that we we can find copies fairly easily.

说到这个，蒂姆，我查了一下。

Well, on that note, Tim, I'm looking it up.

上面说亚马逊上有售。

It says it's available on Amazon.

亚马逊上还有几本。

There's a few copies on Amazon.

在极客市场也有几本。

There's a few in the geek market.

所以看起来如果你想要的话，是能买到的。

So it looks like it's available if you wanna

好的，不错。

Okay, cool.

不错。

Cool.

所以我不明白我为什么会看到那些评论。

So I I don't know why I was seeing that commentary.

我看到的那些关于BGG评分的负面反馈，主要都跟Kickstarter用户有关，比如他们没收到附赠的奖励卡，或者没像预期那样快收到游戏。

All of the kind of negative feedback I saw on the, like, BGG ratings mostly had to be with, people, you know, not you know, how Kickstarter users are, like, they didn't get the promo cards they were with it, or they didn't get it as quick as they wanted.

所以这些评分基本上都是跟Kickstarter相关的。

So it's all, like, like, Kickstarter related ratings.

我很想知道，等这款游戏进入零售渠道后，其他人会不会像我们一样从中获得这么多乐趣，评分会不会因此提高一点。

So be interested to see once this gets out to retail if other people find as much joy as we did from it and the the ratings go up a little bit.

但毫无疑问，我会去寻找这款游戏。

But definitely, I'll be looking for this one.

这是一款很棒的游戏。

It's it's a good one.

好。

Cool.

好的。

Alright.

谢谢大家的精彩游戏体验。

Well, thanks folks for the the gameplay.

让我们来看看接下来几款我们刚摆在桌上的游戏。

Let's jump into a couple games that we've had on our table right after this.

好的。

Alright.

欢迎回来。

Welcome back.

所以这周——其实并不是这周，但这是我们大约四周以来第一次把这款游戏摆在桌上玩。

So this week well, it wasn't actually this week, but this is the first time we've done it on the table for about four weeks now.

几周前，我有机会玩了一款游戏，它一直是我2026年最想玩的游戏榜单第一名，这款游戏叫《 Sanctuary》。

So a couple weeks back, I got a chance to play a game that was on my I think it was the number one game on my want to play list for 2026, and this was Sanctuary.

这款游戏由马蒂亚斯·威格设计，由美国的卡普斯通游戏公司发行。

This was designed by Matthias Wigg and published by Capstone Games here in The United States.

《 Sanctuary》基本上被宣传为《Arc Nova》的更易上手、更轻量的版本。

Sanctuary is, you know, basically claimed to be a more approachable and lighter version of Arc Nova, essentially.

它的主题是建造一个动物园。

So it is about building a zoo.

你面前有一块布局板，它使用了与《Arc Nova》相同的卡牌河流机制：当你执行一个行动时，会将这张卡牌移到其他卡牌的左侧。

You have a tableau board in front of you, and it uses that same, like, card river mechanism where if you take an action, then you move that card to the left of the other cards just like Arc Nova does.

但它的规则简化了一些。

But it made it a little bit simpler.

游戏中你只有四种行动可以选择，而《Arc Nova》中有五种。

There's only four actions you can take in the game instead of the five in Arc Nova.

可触发的效果也少了很多，诸如此类。

Significantly less effects you can trigger and things like that.

事实上，当你获得这些六边形板块并把它们放在一个类似拼字游戏棋盘托架的装置上时，其他玩家是看不到的，你会逐渐积累这些板块。

In fact, when you have a tile and you're gonna collect these little hexagon tiles and place them on a almost looks like a scrabble tile holder type of thing so that other people can't see them, you're gonna have these built up.

当你建造一个时，就相当于同时建造了围栏和动物。

And when you build one, it's like building both enclosure and the animal.

所以你不需要像之前那样单独完成建造围栏这一步，他们还简化了其他许多机制。

So you don't have, like, that extra step of building the enclosure, and they even simplify quite a few other things.

基本上，这里面有几种不同类型的板块。

Basically, there are a few types of tiles in here.

这些是动物本身。

There are your the animals themselves.

有建筑，还有项目。

There are buildings, and then there are projects.

这个机制是这样的：每轮开始时，你可以从这个市场中取一张牌。

And the way this works, it's essentially like at the start of every round, you're gonna get to take a tile from this market.

我认为市场中有六张牌，像一排卡片一样供你选择。

I think there's six of them in a market of cards, like a row of cards that you can take.

但这个市场是瓷砖，不是卡片，这些瓷砖上标有数字一到六。

But that market of car of tiles, not cards, that market of tiles has numbers one through six on them.

实际上，你可以取任何与你面前项目卡位置匹配的瓷砖。

And, essentially, what you're gonna be able to do is take any tiles that match up with where your project's card is in front of you.

所以你面前有四张行动卡或瓷砖。

So you've got these four action cards or tiles in front of you.

项目卡是让你实际执行项目的关键。

The project's card is gonna be the one that lets you actually play a project.

但如果你让这张牌在你的行动牌中越靠右，你在每轮开始时从资源堆中免费获取的牌等级就越高。

But the further you let it get to the right among your tiles, your action tiles, the higher level you're gonna get as far as a free tile you can take from the supply at the start of the round.

所以你基本上会有更多的选择。

So you get more selection options, basically.

然后这张牌就会进入你的资源堆。

And then the tile goes into your supply.

除了项目牌之外，其他牌能让你在使用该项目时获得更好的选择。

Aside from the project tile, that makes you get better choices when you get to play that.

否则，另外三张牌主要是让你能够放置不同类型的动物。

Otherwise, the other three tiles basically just let you play different types of animals.

所以你将要放置的，我想是水生动物。

So you're you're gonna either play I think it's water.

我甚至都记不清了。

I don't even remember.

我已经有几周没玩了，但你的动物牌上会看到三种不同的图标。

It's been a couple weeks since I played, but there's three different icons you're gonna see on your on your animals.

就像是水、山脉，还有别的什么，可能是飞机。

It's like water, like mountains, and something else, maybe planes.

我不记得了。

I don't remember.

但你可以放置其中一种类型的动物。

But you get to place one of those types of animals.

如果它达到了某个等级，或者你已经升级过它，我认为你可以放置两只动物。

And if it's at a certain level or you've upgraded it, you can play two animals, I think.

所以总的来说，你要么就是让你的项目卡往上走。

So that's the gist of it is that you're either, you know, letting your project card go up.

所有这些棋子都可以往下移动，我认为是为了从资源池中获取另一个棋子。

All of these tiles can be moved down to, I think, take another tile from the supply.

所以如果你想获得更多棋子，这其实很容易。

So it's pretty easy to get more tiles if you want to.

而所有这些棋子基本上都会提供一些一次性效果。

And all the tiles essentially are gonna either give you, like, onetime effects.

它们会在游戏结束时，根据周围的其他瓷砖给你加分。

They're going to, you know, give you points at the end of the game based on other tiles that are around it.

所以这其实是一个大量涉及瓷砖相邻关系的拼图，你需要摆放瓷砖，使其与你栖息地中的其他瓷砖协同作用。

So it's a lot of, like, tile adjacency puzzle here where you're trying to place a tile so that it works together with other tiles in your habitat and things like that.

作为一款瓷砖摆放类拼图，它简直让我头大。

As a tile placement puzzle, it burnt my brain.

这真是个难解的谜题。

Like, it was a tricky puzzle to take.

你的布局区域，或者说你在动物园里可以建造的区域，比你想象的要小得多。

Your tableau or your your kind of region you can build in your zoo is much smaller than it feels like it's gonna be.

这些瓷砖都很大很厚实。

These are big chunky tiles.

所以你会觉得，好吧。

So it feels like, okay.

我会把这块放在这里，期望它周围有三块水属性瓷砖，以便最大化得分。

I'll place this here and expect to get three water tiles around it so it can optimize the scoring.

然后最终，你会突然意识到，等等。

And then ultimately, you end up like, oh, wait.

我刚放了这块瓷砖，结果却挡住了我想放水砖的位置。

I just built this other tile that just blocked out the space I wanted to build my water tile.

所以这个拼图在我看来既困难又有趣。

So the puzzle was really tricky and fun in my opinion.

我很喜欢这一点。

I really like that about it.

所以这个设计非常成功。

So that worked really well.

但这完全不像《Ark Nova》。

This did not feel like Ark Nova at all, though.

所以我直接说清楚这一点。

So I'll just get that right out.

这个游戏机制完全不像大型卡牌布局构建游戏。

The the gameplay did not feel like a big card tableau builder.

这更像是一种，嗯，有什么好例子吗？

This was more like a oh, what's a good example?

我会说《郊区》就是一个很好的例子，你基本上是在拿这些板块，尝试让它们以正确的相邻关系进行摆放。

I would say Suburbia is a great example of this, where you're basically taking tiles and just trying to build them with the right adjacencies and stuff like that.

它就是那种程度的

It was that level of

有点像《Cascadia》吗？

It's like Cascadia, kinda?

《Cascadia》，是的。

Cascadia, yeah.

《Cascadia》要轻很多。

Cascade is much lighter.

但没错，我的意思是，这种游戏的触发效果少得多，因为这个游戏确实有一些效果。

But yeah, mean, you know, less much less like effects that are gonna trigger because this did have effects.

比如，你有可以打出的项目卡，它们会提供持续效果，而且可能还有关于它们可以放置位置的条件。

Like, you it had project cards you could play that would give you ongoing effects, and they may have conditions about where they could be played.

你有动物用于终局得分，但它们本身是分数，同时也可能因为周围其他元素而获得额外分数。

You had animals that were there for endgame powers, but they all are like points, but they also might be worth points for other things around them.

所以这里的机制比《Cascadia》丰富多了。

So the effects here were much more varied than Cascadia.

因此，这款游戏的分量明显更接近《Suburbia》，而不是《Cascadia》。

So it definitely feels more at the Suburbia weight than it did the Cascadia weight.

所以，这么说吧，这游戏不是《Ark Nova》，但它会让你联想到一点，因为你也在建造动物园，而且使用的图标系统也很相似。

So, you know, all that to be said, this is not Ark Nova, but it but it will remind you a little bit of it because you are building a zoo and it uses a lot of the same iconography, so that's similar.

不过，我有一个意见要提，因为我确实喜欢这个游戏。

Here's my one complaint about it though, because I did like the game.

玩起来我很开心。

I had a good time playing.

我愿意再玩一次，但我不会特意去找它来玩。

I'd be happy to play it again, but I'm def I'm not gonna search it out.

主要原因在于，《Ark Nova》最核心、最有趣的部分，大概是底部那五张行动卡。

And mainly, was because the core gist of Ark Nova, probably the most interesting thing about it, is those five action cards that you've got at the bottom.

我什么时候采取这个行动并优化它，以便其他行动向上移动？

When do I take this action and optimize on it so that the other actions slide up?

但如果我现在这么做，也许我会把它提升到三级，而它永远无法达到它本可达到的强度。

But if I do that now, maybe I'm taking it to three power and it's never gonna get as strong as it could be.

对吧？

Right?

这真的很有趣。

That's really fun.

这正是我特别喜欢《ArcNova》的地方之一。

That's that's one of the things I really like about ArcNova.

这个版本有这四张板块，但它们要无聊得多，因为其中三张只是动物。

This one had those four tiles, but they were so much less interesting because three of them were just animals.

所以，我是该让这个稍微再往上挪一点，以便能玩一张更高级的动物？

So it's like, do I let this one slide up a little bit higher so that I can play one higher level animal?

总之，这个选择就没那么有趣了。

Like, it just wasn't as fun of a choice.

大多数时候，我会在回合中做点别的事，然后那张牌就会自然落到我想让它去的位置，因为上面只有四个格子。

Most of the time, I would just do something else on a turn and then that tile would be where I wanted it to be because there's only four slots on it.

所以这游戏几乎感觉像是没有这个机制也会存在。

So it almost felt like this game should have existed without that.

他们本想做一款《Ark Nova》简化版，但还不如直接做一个真正有趣、酷炫的格局构建游戏，紧扣《Ark Nova》的主题，去掉卡牌部分，因为这种行动选择机制在这个简化层级上根本行不通。

Like, they were trying to make Ark Nova Lite, and then they should have just made this really fun, cool tableau builder that leaned into the Ark Nova theme and left the the card part out of it because that is an action selection mechanism just didn't work at this level of simplicity.

它就是不够有趣。

It just wasn't it wasn't interesting.

但除此之外，这款游戏的其他方面其实都非常扎实。

But beyond that, everything else about the game was actually really solid.

再说一遍，我愿意再玩一次。

Again, I'd be happy to play it again.

这其实是个棘手的谜题。

It was it was a tricky puzzle.

挺有挑战性的。

It was tough.

感觉轮到我时很难做出决定。

Felt very hard to take my turn.

这比《Arkno》更像单人多人游戏。

This is even more multiplayer solitaire than Arkno.

哦。

Oh.

完全没有互动。

There's zero interaction.

也许偶尔会关心一下桌面上的瓷砖，想从别人那里抢走，但几乎从不这样。

Maybe once in a while, care about what tiles out in the tableau and you wanna try to take it from somebody, but almost not at all.

所以，我的意思是，我甚至不建议超过两人玩这个游戏，因为回合时间太长了，我们都在认真思考什么行动才是好的。

And so, I mean, I wouldn't even recommend playing this with more than two players because it was long turns because we were thinking really hard about what was a good action to take and stuff like that.

所以这很可能是个很棒的单人解谜游戏，我也玩得很开心。

So this is, like, probably a great solo puzzle, and I had a fun time with it too.

四个人围坐一桌，等轮到我时我已经无聊透顶了，因为你能拿的瓷砖，等转到你时基本都被拿光了。

Four players around the table, I'd be so bored by the time I got back to my turn because, you know, the tiles that you can take from are pretty much like they're gonna be dried up by the time they get back to you.