绝命毒师内幕 303

哦，当然。

Oh, definitely.

哦，不。

Oh, no.

他挺吓人的。

He's scary.

他挺吓人的。

He's scary.

这也是其中一部分

And that was part

原因

of the

吧。

thing too.

你得相信，是的。

You had to believe Yeah.

觉得汉克能赢过这些人。

That Hank could beat these guys out.

你确实是这样想的。

And you do though.

而且

And

他完全……好吧，咱们因为你自己在这方面受过很多训练。

he totally Well, let's because you you actually have a lot of training in this area yourself.

我确实有。

I did.

对。

Yeah.

我在高中时拿到了跆拳道黑带。

I have black belt in Taekwondo that that that I earned when I was in in high school.

后来上大学的时候，我还打过拳击之类的。

And then I did some boxing while was in college and stuff like that.

哇。

Wow.

但真的很好玩。

But it was a lot of fun.

还有我们的特技演员阿尔·戈多，他真的很棒，帮了大忙。

And Al Godo, our great our great stunt guy really really helped that along.

我们能讲讲那个场景的故事吗？

And and can we tell the scene of the story about that?

有这么一幕。

So there's this one.

有一个镜头是我要把他撞到镜子上。

There's a shot where we smash his where where I'm supposed to run him into this mirror.

对吧？

Right?

然后我们把他的头撞到镜子上。

And we smash his head into the mirror.

它应该会碎掉的。

It's supposed to shatter.

所以那个道具师，还是叫什么来着？

So the the prop guy or what is it prop?

是特效师。

So special effect.

特效，特效师。

Special Special effect.

对，你说的没错。

That's what you said.

他布置好这个装置，然后说，没问题。

Sets this sets this thing up and he goes, no problem.

然后我们布置好了。

And we set it up.

我们正在准备。

We're lining up.

对准位置。

Line it up.

好的。

Okay.

然后我们让他整个人直接撞进水槽里。

And then we take him full into the sink.

砰的一声。

Bam.

结果它没碎。

And it doesn't break.

对吧？

Right?

这哥们儿搞定了。

And this guy's got it.

这人脾气挺冲，又硬气，现在头疼得不行。

This guy's mean and he's tough and he's got a headache now.

你知道吗？

You know?

他们都在看着我。

And they're looking at me.

我就想，我打到他了，兄弟。

I'm like, I hit him, man.

我打

I hit

他正好打在该打的地方。

him right where he's supposed

该打的地方。

to hit.

所以我们下次

So we do it the

再这么做。

next time.

我打他打得特别狠

I hit him so

力道大得把他直接撞进了墙里。

hard that we put it we we put it into the wall.

他就那么直直地撞过去，方向都没偏。

He just saw it right into the right.

径直

Into

我们打得那么狠，它居然都没坏。

That's how hard we hit, and the thing still doesn't break.

我知道。

I know.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

所以现在我们想，我们到底该怎么办？

So now we're going, what the heck are we gonna do?

对吧？

Right?

然后你就会想，这到底是怎么回事？

So then you're like, what the heck heck of it?

我们就把它弄坏，然后从那里开始射击。

We'll just break it, you know, and we'll shoot it from there.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

所以我们说，对。

So we go, yeah.

好的。

Okay.

然后我们的特技演员阿尔·戈托说，是的。

So Al Goto goes, our stunt guy, he goes, yeah.

行。

Alright.

我来把它弄断。

I'll break it.

他说，砰。

He goes, bam.

然后真的断了。

And it does it.

他几乎把自己打晕了。

He's like knocks himself out virtually.

我是说，真的。

I mean, literally.

他就像，结果没碎。

He's like, and it doesn't break.

哇。

Wow.

然后丹尼斯·彼得森说，对。

And so then Dennis Peterson said, yeah.

我就拿个锤子吧。

I'll I'll just get a hammer.

他敲了一下。

He goes, tap.

又敲了一下。

Tap.

我一点都没夸张。

I I'm not I'm not exaggerating.

他就像，靠。

He's like, fuck.

他一直盯着那个看。

And he keeps looking at it.

我跟他说，基思，就是那个人。

I'm going, Keith, that's the guy.

别看我。

And don't look at me.

那东西绝对不可能坏掉。

There's no way that thing would have broken down.

我是说，他拿锤子使劲砸了。

I mean, he had hit a fucking hammer.

用锤子猛砸。

Slammed it with a hammer.

那硬度比普通镜子还高。

It was harder than a regular mirror.

真的比普通镜子硬多了。

It was harder harder than a regular mirror.

然后它

And it

本来应该是那种一碰就碎的玻璃。

was supposed to be breakaway glass.

它是

It was

像那种容易碎的类型，就像你买的那种糖纸似的

breakaway like you might get a sugar

或者别的什么。

or whatever.

我始终没搞明白，为什么那件事……

I never got the I never got the explanation of why that

我完全不知道。

I I have no I have no idea.

但归根结底，那个镜头拍得特别棒，因为我们做的是……

The but but ultimately, the shot is fantastic because what we did was

另外

The other

我们在镜子后面放了个摄像头，工作人员还搭了一面假墙

is is we we put a camera behind the mirror and the guys built a fake wall

对。

Yeah.

还有一块玻璃，我们透过它看过去。

And a piece of glass that we looked looked through.

所以我们会看到这一镜头，就像你们待会儿会看到的，迪恩把基亚丁直接推向镜头。

And so we have the shot, as you'll see, Dean pushing the Keyjardine right at the camera.

然后玻璃碎了。

And then the glass breaks.

接着我们切到另一侧的视角。

And then we cut to the other side.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

所以现在玻璃已经碎了，这些人正从墙上下来。

So where the already now broken glass as these guys are coming off the wall.

但我们那天收工时留下了一个巨大的洞。

But we left that worked that day with a huge gigantic hole

墙上的洞。

hole in the wall.

在……

In the

墙上……

wall from

对。

Yeah.

肩膀？

Shoulder?

对。

Yeah.

因为他的肩膀先撞到，头本来应该撞到玻璃的，但

Because his shoulder hit and his head was supposed to hit the glass, which

刚好在画面外。

It was just out of frame.

对。

Yeah.

你知道，如果拍到了

You know had it

在镜头里，

on film,

但就是没拍到，哦，那真好笑。

but it was just Oh, that was funny.

但后来整个赛季我都在拿丹尼斯开玩笑。

But then I gave Dennis, you know, shit the whole rest of the season.

每次他让我难堪，我就说，你知道吗，我要给基思·贾丁打电话，因为没人会惊慌失措。

Every time he gave me a hard time, I'm like, you know, I'm gonna call Keith Jardine because nobody's freaking out.

他把头甩来甩去。

Throwing his head.

嗯，你

Well, you

知道我们最初是怎么找到基思·贾丁的吗？

know how we got Keith Jardine in the first place?

不知道。

No.

有人给我发了一堆特技演员的照片，他们可以演这个角色。

I was sent a bunch of photos of of stunt guys who could do the role.

而且，你知道，在新墨西哥州，特技演员没有洛杉矶那么多，这很正常。

And and, you know, there's there's not as many stunt guys in in New Mexico as there are as as understandably as there are here in Los Angeles.

我当时在看那些照片。

And I was looking at photos.

我心里想，不行。

I was like, nah.

感觉不太对味。

That's not quite the look.

我和Wanna都这么觉得。

Wanna mean and I both were.

我们当时在洛杉矶一起看照片。

We're looking at photos together here in Los Angeles.

算了，不去了。

Like, nah.

在我们出发去那边之前。

Before we went out there.

没去成。

Nah.

不太对。

Not quite.

然后他们那儿还有一堆别的照片，是给其他期节目里那些男嘉宾准备的。

And then they had there's a different pile of photos for for guys who for some other episode.

就是那期304的男生们。

The guys who three zero four.

304那期。

Three zero four.

好的。

Okay.

所以是304。

So so 304.

我们在3号。

We're on 3

哦，我们是在303号。

o we're so Just on 303.

好的。

Okay.

接下来会发生什么，我不能说太多。

I can't talk too much about what comes next.

抱歉。

Sorry.

我们不是按顺序录的。

We're doing these out of order.

我想我们会

Guess we'll

继续。

continue.

表兄弟？

Cousins?

这是

It's the

回到林肯那个年代。

Abraham Lincoln flashback.

行吧。

Alright.

得找个长得像林肯的人。

We need a guy who look like Lincoln.

不行。

No.

而且我翻着另一批资料，心想这人怎么看着挺眼熟的。

But and I'm looking through this other batch of stuff, and I'm like, this guy looks familiar.

等一下。

Wait a minute.

我哥，他出现在那些综合格斗的视频里。

My brother, he's in all that ultimate fighting stuff.

他跟我提过这个人，叫基思·贾丁。

He's telling me about this guy's Keith Jardine.

我连这人的名字都知道。

I even know this guy's name.

我就想，他怎么偏偏没在这批东西里呢？

I'm like, why the hell is he not in the in this pile?

所以我们打电话过去问，为什么我们联系不上基思

So we we called up and said, why can't we get Keith

贾丁？

Jardine?

阿尔伯克基。

Albuquerque.

对。

Yeah.

他说

He said

你得去搜搜这人，哥们儿。

You gotta Google this guy, man.

网上有个YouTube视频，这哥们儿在丹麦跳舞呢。

There's a there's a there's a YouTube video of this guy doing a dance in, like, Denmark.

真的没骗你。

I kid you not.

是吗？

Yeah?

那视频简直太棒了。

It'll it it is the best.

一场舞蹈表演。

A dance.

对。

Yeah.

哇，太棒了。

Oh, wow.

他说那就像个街头集市一样。

He, like, calls it it's like a street fair.

对。

Yeah.

而且，那还是他出名之前的事。

And, like, it's before he was famous.

是啊。

Yeah.

真的，相信我。

Trust me, man.

你肯定会喜欢的。

You'll love it.

然后他先搞出点动静，接着他们开始放这个节拍，他就跳起来了，特别精彩。

And he and he's, like, kinda causes some stuff, then they start playing this beat, and he starts doing this it's it's great.

那挺酷的。

That's cool.

我忍不住了。

I can't

真的能想象他跳舞的样子。

really picture him dancing.

哦，兄弟。

Oh, dude.

哦，我是说我能想象他玩屁股舞。

Oh, is he like I can picture him playing ass.

就是你知道的，他刚出道那会儿。

Like, you know, he's in his early days.

真的特别棒，哥们。

It's great, man.

挺酷的。

That's cool.

对。

Yeah.

总之呢

Anyway

所以我挺好奇的，因为你们在正式开拍前，大概得做三到四个月的工作量。

So I'm curious because, you know, you we got you guys do a lot of work about, I don't know, about three or four months worth of work before we even start shooting.

你们会想出故事点子，还有整季的剧情走向。

And you guys come up with with, you know, story ideas and and series arcs.

所以你们决定引入一个Boss角色。

So you guys decided to introduce a boss.

比如我们都不知道到底是谁来当这个反派。

Like, we don't know who like is over to go or over this.

所以你们现在有了一个新角色，他基本上就是负责对那个叫啥的人下手？

So you guys now have a new character and he's the one who basically does the hit on what's the dude's name?

对那只乌龟？

On the turtle?

Tortuga。

Tortuga.

Tortuga。

Tortuga.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

对。

Yeah.

很多人叫他Bolsa。

A lot of people Bolsa.

你们想聊聊他吗？

Did you guys wanna talk a little bit about him?

是的。

Yeah.

很棒的演员。

Wonderful actor.

解释一下为什么他叫Juan Bolsa。

Explain why he why his name is Juan Bolsa.

哦，这个嘛，你比我更清楚。

Oh, it's well, you know better than me.

所以是胡安·扎赫？

So it's Johnny Zach?

还是

Or

对。

Yeah.

胡安，当然就是约翰、强尼的意思。

Juan, of course, is is John, Johnny.

Bolsa在西班牙语里是手提包或者袋子的意思。

Bolsa is Spanish for handbag or bag.

《黑道家族》里的Johnny Sack，就是那种相当于教头、老大之类的角色，跟Tony Soprano差不多级别。

Johnny Sack was the guy in Sopranos who was was sort of the equivalent capo or boss or whatnot, equivalent to Tony Soprano.

所以这算是给《黑道家族》的一个小致敬吧。

So it was just a little shout out to Sopranos.

对。

Right.

不错。

Nice.

不过哈维尔·格拉埃达，如果我没念错他的名字的话，演得非常棒。

But Javier Graeda, if I'm pronouncing his name right, did a wonderful job.

哈维尔是个很出色的演员。

Javier is a wonderful actor.

很遗憾，我甚至都没见过他本人。

I hate to I say, never even met the man.

我希望有机会见到他，

I hope I get to meet

在首映式上。

him with the premiere.

他非常棒。

He's great.

我们为那个角色面试了不少人。

We read a lot of people for that part.

这很有挑战性，因为我们不想让他成为那种俗套的反派老板。

And it was challenging because we didn't want him to be the cliche bad guy boss.

我们希望他有点……对。

We wanted him to be bit Yeah.

稍微特别一点。

A little bit different.

我们会继续

We'll stay

除此之外。

above that.

说得对，这点很好。

Good good point.

我们不想让他演那种捏着胡子说狠话的角色

We didn't want him, like, doing the mustache twirling kind

比如‘我要杀了他’这种。

of, I will kill him.

知道吗？

Know?

好的。

Okay.

嗯。

Mhmm.

他想要一个非常绅士、温和、说话轻声细语的人，但这个人可以坐在那里，看着一个人的头被砍刀砍掉，连眼皮都不眨一下。

One of the he wanted a very gentlemanly kinda mild soft spoken guy who nonetheless could sit there and not even flinch as he watches a guy's head get lopped off with a machete.

这就是我们

That's what we're

要找的。

looking for.

哈维尔做得非常好。

Javier did a wonderful job.

确实。

He did.

结果你猜怎么着，我是说，我们选他是因为他演得太棒了。

Turns out I mean, we cast him because we cast him because he was great.

但没想到他跟布莱恩·克兰斯顿是老交情。

But turns out he's old friends with Brian Cranston.

没错。

That's right.

其实挺有意思的，当时我们都决定好了，行，就定哈维尔吧。

In fact, it's it's it's funny because we all decided, okay, let's let's cast Javier.

而且真的，两分钟后我就收到Brian的短信，说嘿，我有个朋友要来试镜这个角色，他特别棒。

And literally, two minutes later, I got a text from Brian saying, hey, I hear a friend of mine's coming in to to read for the part, and he's really fantastic.

他叫Javier。

His name's Javier.

所以说，时机真是恰到好处。

So, I mean, the timing was was was perfect.

所以我们让Brian以为

So we let Brian think it

都是因为

was all because

他。

of him.

对。

Yeah.

我刚意识到我刚刚说漏了。

I just realized I just blew that.

布莱恩，你需要什么都行，兄弟。

Brian, whatever you need, man.

你需要什么都行。

Whatever you need.

爱你，布莱恩。

Love you, Brian.

赚点好感分。

Get some brownie points.

布莱恩能听那些废话。

Brian can listen to shit.

别担心。

Don't worry about it.

你们，你们已经决定了。

You guys you guys decided though.

那可是件大事，因为你们决定用西班牙语演一整场很长的戏。

That's a big a big deal because you guys decided to play a whole very long scene in in Spanish.

对。

Yeah.

我们确实这么做了。

We to do that.

我喜欢让那些不会说西班牙语的人着急，逼着他们去学西班牙语。

I love making people who don't speak Spanish sweat by having them having to make them learn Spanish.

谁不会说西班牙语？

Who doesn't speak Spanish?

好吧，我这是提前说了，不过

Well, I'm jumping ahead here, but

好吧，哈维尔很流利。

Well, Javier fluent.

哈维尔以前是。

Javier was.

然后我们确实问了。

And then we did ask.

我们只招那些，对，

We were only casting people who Yeah.

对。

Right.

会双语的。

Were bilingual.

我提前说了。

I'm jumping ahead.

我不是在说这个特定的场景。

I'm not talking about this particular scene.

但你知道，有趣的是，我们那位出色的演员再次登场，这是这一集里的一个片段。

But, you know, the funny thing, our wonderful actor again, and that's a sequence in this episode.

太棒了。

Wonderful.

我们那位出色的演员吉安卡罗·埃斯波西托，人特别温和、特别好，他演的是古斯，但他其实不会说西班牙语。

Our wonderful actor Giancarlo Esposito, who is such a sweet guy, such a wonderful guy, plays Gus, really does not speak Spanish.

所以，我们来聊聊其中的一些困难。

And so so talk about that some of that, the difficulties.

比如让胡安·卡洛斯在剧里说西班牙语，我们提前给他录好了音，这样他可以跟着听。

Well, Jean Carlo, when he has to speak Spanish in the show, he we prerecorded for him so that he can listen to it.

我们还给他准备了一个……该怎么说呢？

We also got him a what do call that?

Rosetta Stone的课程。

Rosetta Stone course.

然后我们有

Then we have

他是丹麦人。

He was Danish.

我们给他买了

We got him the

买错了版本。

wrong one.

是的。

Yeah.

他语言天赋不错，所以

He's good with languages, so

这就帮上大忙了。

that helps.

别剧透那两集精彩的内容啊。

Don't give away the great two episodes.

后来片场还安排了一位翻译，就站在我旁边，因为我完全不会说西班牙语。

And then we had a translator on set with us who would stand right beside me because I do not speak a word of Spanish.

所以指导他们挺有挑战性的，而他们要学起来就更难了。

So it was challenging to direct them as even more challenging for them who had to learn it.

而且希望他听起来特别流利。

And wanted him to sound like he was quite fluent.

对，就是这样。

So Yeah.

但他做得非常出色。

But he did a great job.

而且他一直都把工作完成得很好，有好几次都得靠他出面才行。

And he's and he does a great job because there's a few times he has to

他是个非常出色的演员。

He's a wonderful actor.

对的。

Yeah.

对的

Yeah.

吉安卡洛表现得特别出色

Giancarlo's fantastic.

我们真的特别幸运，遇到了太多好演员

We got a bunch of we're blessed.

能拥有这么多优秀的演员，真的很难得

How many wonderful actors we got?

说实话，我最早大概在八月左右看到这一集的提纲时，真的惊呆了。

You know, I I gotta say that when I read the the outline for this episode way back in probably, like, I don't know, August or something.

我当时简直不敢相信自己的眼睛，不过这也符合你们的一贯风格。

I remember, like, seeing this I I could not believe what I was seeing, and it it was kind of par for, of course, for you guys.

我就知道你们肯定会搞出这种操作。

I knew that, you know, you guys would do something like this.

现在沃尔特搬回房子里住了，而且睡在了婴儿房里。

But Walt's moved back into the house, and now he's sleeping in the baby's room.

所以斯凯勒基本上把他锁在了自己的房间和浴室外面。

And and so Skyler's basically locked him out of his own room and his own bathroom.

你们能稍微讲讲当时是怎么做出这个决定的吗？

So can you guys go kind of a little bit into how you had how you made this decision?

我甚至都不好意思说出口。

This I can't even bring myself to say it.

但你们知道我在说什么。

But you know what I'm talking about.

你确保利率

You make sure rates

在

in the

这是谁的主意？

Whose idea was that?

其实是我的主意。

That was actually mine.

不是。

No.

而且我们在之前的播客里说过，我们都会忘记是谁想出来的主意。

And and and and and we said in a previous podcast how we forget who comes up with what.

不过我得说，上一季让托尔图加的头在乌龟上炸掉，那绝对是你的主意。

Although I will say, that was definitely your ideal last season to have Tortuga's head blow up on the turtle.

那是个很好的例子，说明我记得很清楚那是谁的主意。

That was a good example of me remembering exactly whose idea it is.

因为那是在乌龟那一集里，伙计们，头在乌龟上。

Because that was in that turtle episode that was, guys, heads on a turtle.

太棒了。

Awesome.

我们去吃午饭吧。

Let's go to lunch.

对。

Yeah.

然后乔治就说，然后头就爆炸了。

Then and then George is like and then the head blows up.

我就说，乔治，看在上帝的份上。

I'm like, George, for fuck's sake.

拜托。

Come on.

别闹了，吉尔摩。

Stop Gilmore.

把脑袋放进乌龟里，够可以的。

Enough to put a head in a turtle.

我就说，不。

I'm like, no.

它会爆炸的。

It's gonna blow up.

会爆炸的。

It's blow up.

当然。

Of course.

你说得完全对。

You're exactly right.

结果成了《绝命毒师》里最棒的时刻之一。

Turned out to be Like, I'm Bad.

最伟大的《绝命毒师》

The the best one of the greatest Breaking

时刻之一。

Bad moments.

直接飙到顶了。

Goes up to 11.

没错。

Exactly.

这个直接飙到顶了。

This one goes to 11.

你懂吧？

You know?

他做得更绝。

He he does one better.

但那绝对是乔治的。

But it was that was definitely George's.

太棒了。

That was great.

不过我在洗手池里小便这事，我记得特别清楚，因为当时所有人都对我大喊大叫。

But peeing in the sink, I I remember because I remember everyone yelling at me about it.

哎哟。

Ugh.

所有的编剧都跟我说

All the writers were like

我记得在洗手池里小便那回事。

I remember the peeing in the sink.

对。

Yeah.

所有编剧都

All the writers were

在强烈争取

was lobbying hard for the

在洗手池里小便。

peeing the sink.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

你是一个……这

You were a It

是个大争论。

was a big debate.

我记得这件事，因为我当时真的进了房间，因为你和梅丽莎在争论那个。

I remember that because I actually came into the room because you're debating that Melissa and I did.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

你想知道它

And you wanted to know what it

是不是也

was too

太过分了。

far.

太过分了。

Too far.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

嗯，你知道，我

Well, you know, I

等等，实际上。

actually Wait.

为什么太远了？

Why was it too far?

我不知道。

I don't know.

我一直觉得，天哪。

I I always thought, gee.

你知道，我们得看着一个家伙，看着节目的英雄，看着一个漂亮女孩在自己的呕吐物中窒息而死，却什么都不做。

You know, we've got we gotta watch a guy watch the hero of the show, watch a watch a pretty girl choke to death in her own vomit, not do anything.

这怎么比那个还糟？

How is this how is this worse than that?

对。

Yeah.

但在洗手池里小便这事儿，确实让人心里犯嘀咕。

But peeing in the sink has sets off bells of people.

我也不清楚。

I don't know.

反正对我来说，船到桥头自然直嘛。

I for my part, I you know, any port in a storm.

你懂的？

You know?

对。

Yeah.

真的吗？

Really?

你知道，如果我真的得……

You know, if I I gotta

但等等，先别急。

But go wait.

争论的是什么？

What was the debate?

去洗手间。

To the bathroom.

拜托。

Come on.

你知道吗？

You know?

我侄女，你知道吗？

My niece you know?

我同意你。

I'm with you.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我觉得这挺好的。

I think it's I think it's good.

我觉得挺逗的。

I think it's funny.

但我记得当时你可是站在我这边的。

But I remember all the you you were on my side.

但其他人都完全倒向另一边了。

But all the other Totally.

对啊。

Yeah.

不是所有人，但有几个人说，得了吧。

Not all of them, but a couple of them were like, come on.

他为什么要在洗手池里小便？

Why does he pee in the sink?

得了吧。

Come on.

你以前在洗手池里小便过吗？

Have you ever peed in the sink before?

这很容易。

It's easy.

你知道吗？

You know?

我不知道。

I don't know.

半满的牛奶厨房

A half filled milk kitchen

水槽也是。

sink too.

我很好奇，米歇尔，因为很明显，你知道这件事在这里闹得很大，但在阿尔伯克基，当其他人读到它，而你们在拍摄的时候，那是什么感觉？

I'm curious though Michelle because obviously obviously you know it had a big it was a big deal around here but what was it like there in Albuquerque when everybody else read it and you guys were shooting it and

嗯，实际上，我没能按我想要的方式拍摄，因为我想拍的方式太过分了。

Well, actually, I didn't get to shoot it the way I wanted to shoot it because the way I wanted to shoot it was going too far.

对。

Yeah.

我猜也是。

I bet.

但是那

But That's

对。

right.

你想

You wanted to

你想拍正面，而不是

You wanted frontal as opposed

而不是什么？

to What?

过肩镜头。

Over the shoulder.

不。

No.

有趣的是，我们实际拍摄的方式，那是一个很美的镜头，而且

The funny thing is, the way we shot it actually, it's a really beautiful shot, which

确实，真的很美，我很欣赏。

is It is a real appreciate it.

迈克尔·斯洛博斯总是这样，他把每个镜头都拍得美轮美奂。

Michael Slobos always does, he he lights everything gorgeous.

所以我觉得大家都会喜欢这个镜头。

So I I think everybody would like this shot.

我是说，有很多玩笑。

I mean, there's a lot of jokes.

当时有很多笑声和调侃，诸如此类。

There was a lot of laughing and teasing and and that kind of thing.

但更有趣的是，他从房间里穿着内衣出来，然后去敲门。

But it was funnier when he came out of the room in his underwear and was going and knocking on the door.

而布莱恩脱衣服时总得搞点搞笑的事。

And Brian can't take his clothes off without doing something funny.

所以我就说到这儿吧。

So that's as far as I'll go to say.

不过有几个花絮。

But there's a few outtakes.

对。

Yeah.

蔬菜。

Vegetables.

那是什么？呃。

What is the Ew.

好的。

Okay.

走开。

Away.

现在

Now

就像是在模仿《摇滚万万岁》那样。

channeling that spinal tap.

我们本来都很专业、很成熟，直到布罗汉穿着内裤出现在片场。

We are all very professional and mature until until Brohan's on set in his underwear.

他玩得很开心，

He has a good time with

对。

that.

是的。

Yeah.

当时有很多

There's there were a lot of

笑声。

laughs there.

对。

Yeah.

但其实，那是个很好的时刻，他那么沮丧，在自己家里却那么格格不入。

But it's it's it's actually it's a good moment when he's he's so frustrated and so out of place in his own home.

对。

Yeah.

而那一刻他唯一能做的反抗就是在水槽里撒尿。

And the only thing he can do to rebel in that moment is pee in the sink.

对。

Yeah.

说真的，这真是个不太正常的家庭。

All joking aside, it's a pretty dysfunctional family.

确实。

It is.

这是一种非常被动攻击的行为。

It's a very passive aggressive act.

没错。

It is.

对。

Yeah.

至少他把盘子移开了。

At least he moved the plates.

我承认他先把脏盘子拿出来了。

I'll give him takes takes the dirty dishes out first.

是的。

Yeah.

但这挺消极对抗的，这家庭现在挺乱的。

But it's pretty passive aggressive, pretty screwed up family at this point.

斯凯勒要去找她的离婚律师，由出色的朱莉·德雷琴饰演，她……

And Skylar's going off to to see her divorce attorney played by the wonderful Julie Dretzen who

萨姆的妻子。

Sam's wife.

萨姆，卡姆林的妻子。

Sam Sam, Camlin's wife.

对。

Yeah.

而朱莉是

And Julie is

她的编剧。

her writers.

山姆·卡姆林。

Sam Camlin.

朱莉的家人。

Julie's family.

他是编剧。

He's writer.

山姆也是这部剧的编剧吗？

Sam's a writer on this?

我以为他只是个实习生呢。

I thought he was just an intern.

别担心。

No worries.

就是那个帮你停车的人。

The guy that parks your car.

好的。

Okay.

他是个编剧。

He's a writer.

哇。

Wow.

我们肯定把那个iCarly游戏弄丢了之类的。

And we must have lost that iCarly game or so.

我希望Sam在这儿，因为你们需要早点招人

I wish Sam was here because you need to staff up a little earlier

在季初的时候。

in the season.

哦，萨姆。

Oh, Sam.

哦，我还以为她在这儿呢。

Oh, was hoping it was here.

朱莉·朱莉，她演得特别棒。这个角色其实挺难演的，因为她在剧里是个离婚律师，这种情况下不能表现得太外露。我们也不想让她显得太有同情心，毕竟这时候她得展现出一种‘严厉的爱’。

Julie Julie, she did a great job, and it was actually a very hard part, a very challenging part to play because as a divorce attorney in this situation she didn't want to show too much, we didn't want her to show too much compassion because she's got to be a little bit of tough love here.

意思是她的客户的老公在贩毒。

Mean she's got a client whose husband's dealing drugs.

她一天要见十几个客户，这也是这一集里学到的内容。

She sees a dozen people and that's which is what we learn in this episode.

对。

Right.

但她

But she

每天要接待十几个客户。

sees a dozen clients a day.

她不可能把心都交给每个人，而且

She can't give them all her heart and

灵魂。

soul.

对。

Right.

而且她不能太投入个人感情。

And she can't get too personal.

是的。

Yeah.

不能太个人化地投入。

Can be personally invested.

但朱莉是个很贴心的人。

But Julie is a real sweetheart.

所以有时候对她来说很难，她会问，你确定我不会太冷漠吗？我说，不会，你做得很好。

And so it was very hard for her at times and she she'd say, are you sure I'm I'm I'm not being too cold or I said, no, you're doing great.