BE 609: 今天，我们坚持聆听！

这里是商务英语播客第六百零九期。

This is the Business English Podcast episode six zero nine.

今天一定要听哦。

Listen today.

我们强烈推荐。

We insist.

欢迎收听来自All Ears English的商务英语播客。

Welcome to the Business English Podcast from All Ears English.

获取你在全球商务中实现梦想所需的英语技能。

Get the English skills you need to achieve your dreams in global business.

无论是做演示、开会，还是参加办公室聚会，这都是真正的商务英语，由你最喜爱的美国主持人Lindsay和Michelle带来，她们分别来自美国纽约和科罗拉多州。

For a presentation, a meeting, or your office party, this is Real Business English with your favorite American hosts, Lindsay and Michelle, coming to you from New York City and Colorado, USA.

理解英语和用英语参与交流之间有很大的区别。

There's a big difference between understanding English and participating in English.

理解意味着你能跟上对话。

Understanding means you follow the conversation.

参与进来就是加入你的想法，自然地回应，并让对话继续下去。

You participate by adding your ideas, reacting naturally, and keeping the conversation moving.

很多英语学习者听力很好，但说话时却犹豫不决。

Many English learners are strong listeners, but hesitant speakers.

一旦你知道了自己当前的流利程度，缩小这个差距就容易多了。

Once you know your current fluency level, it becomes much easier to close that gap.

参加我们免费的2分钟小测验，了解你的水平以及接下来该重点提升什么。

Take our free two minute quiz to discover your level and what to focus on next.

接下来。

Next.

访问 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

就是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.comfluencyscore.

嘿，Lindsay。

Hey, Lindsay.

你好吗？

How are you?

嘿。

Hey.

我今天感觉很不错，米歇尔。

I'm feeling pretty good today, Michelle.

你呢？

How are you?

你感觉怎么样？

How are feeling?

是的。

Yeah.

挺好的。

Pretty good.

挺好的。

Pretty good.

林赛，你有没有觉得，如果别人一直坚持让你试某样东西，或者坚持让你做某件事，你会觉得有义务去做？

Lindsey, do you ever feel obligated to do something if someone kind of insists you try it and or insist you do it?

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得有时候会，你知道，因为做完之后能跟人家分享也挺有意思的。

I would say sometimes, you know, because it's fun to be able to report back.

比如，如果有人坚持让我看Netflix上的某个剧。

Like, if someone insist I watch a TV series on Netflix or something.

如果我看了，那挺有意思的，但我不是每次都看。

It's fun if I if I do it, but I don't always do it.

有时候我忘了，然后就没看。

Sometimes I forget and then I I don't do it.

或者

Or

有时候，比如有人给你推荐个东西，然后你……这最近就发生在我们身上。

Sometimes you can like somebody might give you a recommendation and then if you that just happened to us recently.

大家都让我们去试试这家餐厅。

Everybody was telling us to try this restaurant.

好的。

Okay.

然后我们去了，感觉还行。

And and we tried it, and it was fine.

对。

Yeah.

味道不错，但每个人都说得那么喜欢。

It was good, but everybody talks about how much they love it.

所以我都不想提我们的感受了。

And so I didn't even wanna talk about how we felt about it.

是啊。

Right.

然后我朋友就问，哦，你觉得怎么样？

And my friend was like, oh, so what did you think?

当时丹和我在一起，他说，哦，挺好的。

And Dan was with me and he was like, oh, it was good.

我当时

I was

就想，这真的很难办。

like, That is really hard.

当别人觉得某样东西特别棒，而你觉得只是还行的时候，你该说什么呢？

Whenever another thing is outstanding and you just think it's okay, what do you even say?

对。

Yeah.

你还能说什么呢？

What do you even say?

是啊。

Yeah.

所以，这种事在生意上也会发生。

So but this can happen with business.

有人可能会坚持让你尝试某件事，甚至在生活中也是这样，对吧。

Somebody can insist you try something or even in life for Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

所以我们今天要更详细地聊聊“坚持”这个词，以及它在商业领域里的用法。

So we're gonna talk more about this word insist and how it can be used in the business world.

好的。

Okay.

是的。

Yes.

这期节目会很有意思。

This is gonna be interesting.

Lindsay，一般来说，“坚持”这个词是什么意思？

Lindsay, what does the word insist mean in general?

基本上就是说，用很强烈的语气表达某件事必须发生。

Basically means to say something in a strong way where something has to happen.

对。

Yeah.

就像你坚持要求某人做某事，对吧？

Like you insist that someone do something, right?

是的。

Yes.

这就是在敦促他们，鼓励他们，催促他们。

That's urging them encouraging Urging them.

是的，

Yes,

没错。

exactly.

对。

Yeah.

所以，但我们可以用很多不同的方式来使用它。

So, but there are many different ways that we can use them.

所以今天我们要聊这个，但各位，我们想提醒大家，如果还没关注的话，记得点一下关注按钮，这样就不会错过商务英语的任何内容，我们每周更新三天。

So this, so we're gonna, we're gonna talk about this today, but guys, we wanna remind you guys, if you haven't yet to hit the follow button, so you never miss anything from Business English, we are here three days a week.

我们直接进入正题吧。

Let us jump into your queue.

对。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

没错。

Exactly.

那我们开始吧。

So let's go through it.

米歇尔，我们今天从哪里开始？

Michelle, where do we start today?

好的。

Okay.

对，我们今天就先从基础开始讲。

So, yeah, we're gonna start with the basics.

所以，某人坚持，或者说“insist”。

So someone insists or insist.

对吧？

Right?

所以，I insist。

So I insist.

You insist。

You insist.

She insists。

She insists.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

对。

Mhmm.

所以，我的意思是，这可以用来坚持你会帮助某人，对吧？

So, I mean, this could be used to insist you will help someone, right?

所以它也可以是积极的。

So it could be positive as well.

对，对。

Right, right.

是的，就像我之前在节目里提到的，我快要生宝宝了。

Yeah, like I've mentioned on the show before, I'm going to be having a baby.

嗯，等这期节目播出的时候，我已经有宝宝了。

Well, the time this episode comes out, I will have a baby.

宝宝是

The baby is

对，是的。

going to be, yes.

但是，我们已经

But and we've had

已经休息了好几个月了。

Already a couple months off.

对，我知道。

Right, I know.

太不可思议了，但我们有些朋友，他们就是坚持要给我们送吃的，帮忙照顾。

It's crazy, but we've had friends that have they just insist on bringing over food for us helping out.

他们一直不停地问，我能做点什么？

They're just like consistently saying, what can I do?

我能做点什么？

What can I do?

对吧？

Right?

非要帮忙不可。

Insist on being helpful.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

所以这是件好事。

So that's a positive thing.

对。

Yeah.

所以，或者你可能还会听到另一种说法。

So or here's another way you might hear it.

看起来那台电脑坏了。

Looks like that computer isn't working.

我想帮你把它弄好。

I wanna help you figure it out.

我坚持。

I insist.

对。

Yeah.

所以这就像是在你句子末尾加上那句话。

So that's kinda tacking on that statement at the end of of your sentence.

对吧？

Right?

就好像你不能拒绝一样。

It's like you can't say no.

我坚持。

I insist.

对吧？

Right?

别拒绝。

Don't say no.

你不能拒绝这个提议。

You cannot reject this this offer.

我不想让你被这项工作压得喘不过气来，所以我会帮你。

I don't want you to get too overwhelmed by this work, so I will help you.

我坚持。

I insist.

是的。

Yes.

对。

Right.

明白。

Mhmm.

或者请你在会议上随意一点。

Or please make yourself comfortable for the meeting.

我坚持。

I insist.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

而且通常这是一件好事。

And usually that's a great thing.

有时候，如果某人以坚持己见著称，那可能有点……你可能并不总是想要或需要那种帮助，对吧，当然。

And sometimes if somebody's famous for insisting something, it might be a little you might not want always want the help or need Yeah, the sure.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Mhmm.

对。

Mhmm.

是的，我喜欢那样。

Yeah, I love that.

对。

Right.

所以这可能有点棘手，但一般来说，这是一种友好的表达方式，像是在主动提供帮助。

So it can be tricky, but generally, this is a friendly way of saying, like of offering something helpful, I guess.

明白。

Mhmm.

还有“我坚持要那样”。

Then there's I insist that.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这个

So this

可能更多用于书面语，有点像命令。

could be a little bit more for writing, like a bit more like an order.

所以从语法上讲

So for for grammar

对。

Mhmm.

我坚持认为，然后加上主语和动词。

I insist that, and then the subject and the verb.

是的。

Yeah.

但这里用的是虚拟语气。

But this is using the subjunctive voice.

对吧？

Right?

所以这里的要点是，我们用动词的原形。

So it's the idea here is that we use the base form of the verb.

我坚持认为你考虑让她担任高级职位。

I I insist that you consider her for the high position.

所以我们这里实际上并没有对动词进行变位。

So we're not actually conjugating the verb here.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Right.

我坚持认为他应该考虑她担任这个职位，而不是他考虑她担任这个职位。

I insist that he consider her for the position, not he considers her for the position.

那么，米歇尔，你凭直觉说说，我们什么时候用这个虚拟语气？

So, Michelle, when do we use this subjunctive off the top of your head?

你知道吗？

Do you know?

就是当某件事有点像是要求的时候。

So it's when something is kind of a demand.

对吧？

Right?

必须发生的事情。

Something that must happen.

对吧？

Right?

她坚持要求他准时，而不是他准时。

She insists that he be on time, not he is on time.

对吧？

Right?

这是关于这个动词以及其他几个类似动词的重要知识点，这些动词都表示某种必须发生的事情。

This is the important thing to know about this verb and a handful of other verbs where something like it must happen.

明白吗？

Okay?

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

比如说，我坚持要求你——哦，我坚持要求你收到数据后马上发给我。

So for example, I insist that you oh, I insist that you send me the figures right when you receive them.

嗯。

Mhmm.

你也可以说，我坚持要求你。

And you could say, I insist you.

你可以把那个“that”去掉。

You could take away the that.

但这样会稍微不那么正式，更口语化一点，不过还是可以的。

But becomes a little less formal, a little more conversational, but it's still fine.

对。

Exactly.

对。

Exactly.

然后下一个，我坚持要求你的团队。

And then this next one, I insist your team.

应该是go first。

It should be go first.

我坚持让你的团队先来。

I insist that your team go first.

我很期待看到你们做了什么。

I'm so excited to see what you've done.

不是goes first。

Not goes first.

对吧？

Right?

所以因为这里用了虚拟语气，所以有点不一样。

So because because we're using the subjunctive voice there, it's a little bit different.

明白吗？

Okay?

对。

Yep.

有意思。

Interesting.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

确实。

Definitely.

如果你们想的话，可以再回来。

Come back if you guys want.

在评论区告诉我们。

Let us know in the comments.

我们可以多聊聊这个话题。

We can talk more about the subject.

多聊聊虚拟语气。

Talk more about the subjunctive.

我们平时不太聊这个，但它其实挺重要的。

We don't talk much about it, but it is important.

这算是更高一个层次的东西。

It's like a next level.

它能让你跟B2水平的学生拉开差距。

It will distinguish you from a B two student.

能把你带到C1、C2那个水平。

It'll put you in the C one, C two level.

明白吗？

K?

对。

Yeah.

我们确实可以在这方面多聊一些。

We could definitely do more on that.

嗯。

Mhmm.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Yeah.

然后我们还有 insist on。

And then we also have insist on.

所以这个后面要接名词或者动名词。

So this would be followed by a noun or a gerund.

所以我坚持要在进入下一个部分之前完成这个项目的这一部分。

So I insist on finishing this part of the project before we move on to the next.

嗯。

Mhmm.

或者她坚持每天开团队会议。

Or she insists on a team meeting every day.

坚持某件事有点过分了。

It's too much to insist on something.

对吧？

Right?

很多团队都有这种每日站会，他们就是这么叫的。

A lot of teams have these daily stand ups is what they call them.

对吧？

Right?

顺便说一下，在我们的职业英语一级课程里，我们会讲到每日站会以及如何做汇报。

And we talk about daily stand up and how to report out in our professional English level one course, by the way, guys.

不过，确实，那挺多的。

But, yeah, that's that's a lot.

那频率挺高的。

That's pretty frequent.

对。

Yeah.

所以，某人坚持某件事。

So someone insists on something.

是的。

Yes.

流利不是说要说得很完美。

Fluency is not about speaking perfectly.

而是说能舒服地交流。

It's about communicating comfortably.

能毫无压力地分享想法，在对话中自然反应，并且用英语表达自己的个性。

Being able to share your ideas without stress, react naturally in conversations, and express your personality in English.

如果英语还是让你觉得需要小心翼翼地去应对，那你可能离下一个流利水平很近了。

If English still feels like something you have to manage carefully, you're probably very close to the next level of fluency.

但一旦你清楚自己处在什么位置，进步就会快得多。

But progress becomes much faster once you know exactly where you stand.

来做个免费的2分钟流利度测试，今天就了解你的英语水平吧。

Take our free two minute fluency quiz and discover your English level today.

访问 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

Go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

网址是allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

那么，Michelle，你怎么看？

So Michelle, what do you think?

你觉得谁最常用这个词？

Who do you think uses this word the most?

比如，谁在工作中总是坚持己见？

Like, who is insisting on things at work?

我觉得一般来说，可能是经理吧。

I would say generally a manager, probably.

你知道，他们会坚持让你做某件事。

You know, they insist that you do something.

对。

Right.

他们，我是说，一个乐于助人的经理可能会坚持想帮你，对吧？

They, I mean, a helpful manager might be insisting that they want to help you, right?

对。

Yeah.

但我觉得一般来说，这主要是经理们会用的。

So but I would say it's generally would be for managers.

也可能是一些特别乐于助人的同事。

It could be for just a really helpful coworker too.

你觉得呢？

What do you think?

对。

Yeah.

我觉得，是的，任何处于领导位置的人，而且他们也不一定总是用“坚持”这个词。

I think, yeah, anyone in kind of a leadership position, and they may not always use the word insist either.

他们可能会说，“我们做这件事非常重要”或者“我们不做这件事非常重要”。

They may say, it's really important that we do this or we not it's really important that we not do this.

这就又回到了虚拟语气。

It comes that subjunctive voice comes back in again.

对吧？

Right?

就是有些事情需要发生。

That something needs to happen.

明白吗？

Okay?

对。

Yeah.

所以不总是用这个词，但确实，我觉得有很多坚持和推行新系统的情况，比如我们推行了monday.com。

So it's not always with this exact word, but yeah, I'd say there's a lot of insisting and implementing new systems like we implemented monday.com.

我们推行了任务追踪工具之类的，或者新政策，或者我们正在做的新事情。

We've implemented task trackers, things like that, or new policies or new things that we're doing.

对吧？

Right?

所以需要鼓励你的团队去使用这个工具。

So there needs to be some kind of encouraging your team to use the tool.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

然后今天我还想再讲一个。

And then I wanted to cover one more today.

这个挺有意思的。

And this one is interesting.

就是关于“如果你坚持”这个说法。

So it's if you insist.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对吧？

Right?

这个真的挺有意思的。

And this one is interesting.

它的意思是，如果你打那个电话，就是说有人必须做某事，对吧。

It's saying that if you are making that call, so you're saying that someone has to do something Mhmm.

就像一种回应。

Like a response.

比如，如果你坚持，我可以改预订。

So for example, if you insist I can change the reservation.

对。

Mhmm.

但那样听起来礼貌吗？

But does that sound polite?

你觉得说“如果你坚持”怎么样？

What do you think about saying if

你坚持？

you insist?

坚持的话，我可以改预订。

Insist, I can change the reservation.

感觉你好像在逼我改一样。

It feels like you're really pushing me to change it.

对。

Mhmm.

是吧？

Right?

所以我觉得，这取决于说话人的语气，以及他们是否尊重对方。

So it depends on, like, the tone of voice of the person who's doing the pushing and how respectful are they being, I think.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

而且，你知道，有时候别人说了一件事，你可能不同意，或者不相信。

And also, you know, someone might say something and you may not agree or you may not believe them.

但你还是会说，如果你坚持的话。

But you say, if you insist.

对吧？

Right?

这有点像你在说这可能不是最好的主意。

It's kinda like you're saying this is probably not the best idea.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

你是在评判。

You're you're you're judging.

有点评判，但你其实没有那个权力去改变。对。

Judging a little bit, but you're you don't really have the power to Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

比如说，你可能觉得这会带来问题。

Like, maybe you think this is gonna lead to a problem.

所以举个例子，米歇尔，我在这方面是懂的。

So for example, Michelle, I know what I'm talking about here.

房间已经订好了。

The room is already reserved.

如果你坚持的话。

If you insist.

所以你不怎么相信我。

So you kinda don't believe me.

对吧？

Right?

或者你在怀疑我说的是不是真的，还是……

Or you are you're questioning whether I'm telling the truth or

对。

Yeah.

给出正确的建议。

Giving the right advice.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以这个你得小心一点。

So you do have to be careful with this one.

你知道吗？

You know?

你不想这样，如果你的老板在告诉你什么，我是说，我们可以再做一期节目，讨论怎么说某件事没问题。

You don't wanna if your boss is telling you something, I mean, we can do another episode about how to, like, say something is okay.

比如，我会对你的老板也这么做。

Like, I'll do it to your even to your boss.

如果你不太确定，我是说，可能有更好的办法。

And if you're not exactly sure, I mean, there could be a better way to do it.

一般来说，你可能不想质疑你的老板。

In general, you probably don't wanna be questioning your boss.

他们有最终决定权。

They have the final say.

所以你不想让他们觉得你不认同他们。

So you don't wanna make them feel like you don't Right.

不敢相信

Can't believe

同意

agree with

或者不喜欢他们的决定之类的，因为那肯定会破坏一点关系。

them or you don't like their decision or something like that, because that could definitely spoil the connection a little bit.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

但是，你知道，你肯定得小心处理这件事。

But, so you know, you definitely wanna be careful with that.

对。

Yeah.

然后还有另一面，如果你坚持的话。

And then there's the other side of if you insist.

如果有人对你特别慷慨，你觉得这条件太好了，那就是你接受的方式。

If someone is being overly generous to you and you think it's too good of a deal, it's your way of accepting the thing.

比如说，你加入了一家公司，他们有个要求，你必须休四周假，而你只休了三周，然后你老板过来跟你说，你今年还有一周假没休，你可能会说，好吧，既然你坚持，我就去订下一次假期。

Like, let's say you join a company and, you know, they have a requirement, you must take four weeks of vacation, and you've only taken three and your boss comes to you and says you haven't taken your third week of vacation for the year, you might say, well, if you insist, I'll go ahead and book that next vacation.

好吧，我会去做的。

Alright, I'll do it.

我会去休，对，再来一周。

I'll take Yeah, another

对吧？

right?

所以这个用法也是双向的。

So that also goes that way too.

你明白吗？

You know?

对。

Yeah.

这真的很有意思。

It's really interesting.

所以你可以看到，这个词真的有很多讲究。

So you can see that there's really a lot to this word.

它非常灵活。

It's very versatile.

它可以用来回应别人，也可以用来发号施令。

It can be used for responses or commands.

我们之后可以再深入聊聊它的不同说法和同义词。

And we can do a follow-up on it on different ways to say it on synonyms.

对吧？

Right?

这在不同的场合下会很有用。

That will be helpful in different situations.

所以，就像我说的，一定要点关注，确保你能及时收到这些节目。

So definitely, like I said, hit follow to make sure you get these episodes when when they when they come to you.

好的。

So Okay.

我们来做个角色扮演吧。

Let's do a role play.

我们不会全用上，因为我们不想一直说“如果你坚持的话”。

We're not gonna use all because we don't wanna say if you insist over and over.

对。

Yeah.

但我们现在是一起工作，在吐槽一个作业。

But here we are working together and we're venting about an assignment.