BE 617: 坚持与我们一起，实现商务英语的成功

这里是商务英语播客，第六季第十七期。

This is the Business English Podcast episode six seventeen.

跟着我们，助你商务英语成功。

Stick with us for business English success.

欢迎收听来自All Ears English的商务英语播客。

Welcome to the Business English Podcast from All Ears English.

获取你在全球商务中实现梦想所需的英语技能。

Get the English skills you need to achieve your dreams in global business.

无论是做演示、开会，还是参加办公室派对，这里都是真实的商务英语，由你最喜欢的美国主持人奥布里和米歇尔带来，她们分别来自美国亚利桑那州和纽约市。

For a presentation, a meeting, or your office party, this is Real Business English with your favorite American hosts, Aubrey and Michelle, coming to you from Arizona and New York City, USA.

你有没有在走出

Have you ever walked out of

会议室时想，我本可以说得更好。

a meeting thinking, I could have said that better.

你什么都听懂了，但你的回应却简短、含糊，或者不像你平时的风格。

You understood everything but your response came out short or unclear or not quite like you.

也许你的想法很出色，但你的英语还没能把它展现出来。

Maybe your ideas are strong but your English doesn't show it yet.

你会忘记自己本来知道的单词。

You forget words you know.

你没法自然地解释事情，而且快节奏的对话让你只能默默跟上。

You can't explain things naturally and fast conversations leave you quietly catching up.

这种差距确实让人沮丧，但它也很具体，而且完全可以解决。

That gap can be frustrating, but it's also very specific and very fixable.

我们的两分钟流利度测试能帮你了解差距在哪里，以及你的水平是B1、B2还是C1。

Our two minute fluency quiz helps you understand where that gap is and whether your level is B1, B2, or C1.

一旦你知道了自己的水平，进步就会感觉更轻松、更快速。

When you know your level, progress feels lighter and faster.

现在就访问 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 做测试，让你离用英语表达自己的想法更近一步。

Take the quiz now at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore and move closer to speaking English the way you think.

再说一次，去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

One more time, go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

你好，米歇尔。

Hello, Michelle.

你最近怎么样？

How are you?

我挺好的，奥布里。

I'm doing well, Aubrey.

你呢？

How are you?

非常好。

Excellent.

我有个

I have

问题想问你。

a question for you.

你有没有什么事情是开始做了但没坚持下来的？

What is something you started but didn't stick with?

这种情况我经常遇到。

This happens to me a lot.

我正想说，天哪。

Was gonna say, oh my gosh.

亲爱的，你有多少时间？

Dear, how long do you have?

我得说，虽然有点不好意思，但我得说，是学西班牙语。

I will say I'm I'm embarrassed to say this, but I will say learning Spanish.

我确实开始了，而且当时真的很兴奋。

I did I did start, and I was I'm really excited about doing it.

因为那时候我的很多学生都是说西班牙语的，我真的很想学一点，能和他们交流。

And then because a lot of my students were Spanish speakers at the time, and I was really excited to just learn and communicate a little bit.

后来我换了工作，我的学生来自很多不同的地方，你知道，各种不同的语言。

And then I switched jobs and my students were from many different places that were, know, different All

各种语言都有。

of those languages.

那你不是得转过去吗？

And Don't you have to turn to that?

然后我猜我太忙了，然后我就没坚持下去。

And and then I guess I got so busy and then I just I just didn't stick with it.

但我一直希望自己能多懂一门语言。

But I always wish that I knew more of another language.

我明白你的意思，而且我觉得很多听众都有同感。

Hear you and I have a feeling a lot of listeners out there.

你大概也听到这里，可能有一门语言你开始学了，想学起来，但没坚持下来。

You're probably hearing this and there there may be a language you tried to start, you tried to pick up and didn't stick with it.

我们正在讨论这个短语动词“stick with something”，还有几个相关的内容。

We're talking about this phrasal verb to stick with something and a couple of related things here.

我很期待深入聊聊这个。

I'm excited to dive into it.

这其实是两集系列的第二部分。

This is actually part two of a two part series.

你可以不按顺序听这些内容。

You can listen to these out of order.

请听到最后。

Stay to the end.

我们会分享第一部分的细节，但这是一个很好的话题，可以了解你认识的人坚持了什么，又放弃了什么。

We'll share details about part one, but this is such a great connection topic to find out what the people you know stuck with and what they didn't.

我想问所有我认识的人这个问题。

I want to ask everyone I know this question.

对我来说最有趣的是，我儿子开始学——你说到学西班牙语让我想起了这个。

The the funniest thing for me is my son started learning you saying this about learning Spanish reminded me of this.

他开始学《星际迷航》里的克林贡语。

He started learning Klingon from Star Trek.

如果有人看过《星际迷航》这部剧，里面有一种语言。

If anyone ever listens to watches the TV show Star Trek, there's a language for this.

这种语言只存在于这部剧里，但你可以在多邻国上学习克林贡语，我儿子就在学。

This people who are only exist within this TV show, but you can learn it on Duolingo Klingon and I had them.

他们今年夏天得选一门语言来学，他选了克林贡语，我也没有规定说必须得是实际有人说的语言。特别好笑的是，他学了那些短语，然后就在家里到处说，我就问那是什么意思？

They had to choose a language to learn this summer and he chose Klingon and I didn't specify that it had to be a language that is actually spoken somewhere and it was so funny because he learned these phrases and he would be going around the house saying to knock neck and I'll be like what does that mean?

然后他就说意思是。

And it would be like it means.

你的武器在哪儿之类的疯话？

Where are your weapons or something crazy?

总是些特别搞笑的话。

Always something really funny.

挺好笑的，但他没坚持下来。

That's funny, but he didn't stick with it.

我倒也不觉得可惜。

I'm not that sad about it.

不，我更希望他学西班牙语，或者一门他更能用得上、用得更多的语言。

No, would rather he learn Spanish or a language he could learn or use a lot more.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

那也太好笑了。

That is too funny.

各位，这是两集系列节目的第二集。

So guys, this is part two of a two part series.

所以，你可以不按顺序听，也可以按顺序听，但我们会在这一集里分享第一集的一些细节。

So, you know, listen out of order, listen in order, but we are going to share details about part one.

如果你听到最后，就会听到这些内容。

If you stay till the end, you'll hear those.

另外，无论你在哪里收听，记得点击关注按钮。

And make sure you hit the follow button wherever you're listening.

对，就在商务英语播客这里关注，这样你就不会错过我们任何精彩的节目。

Yes, follow right here on the Business English Podcast so you don't miss any of our amazing episodes.

我们直接进入今天的主题，先聊聊“stick with”这个短语。

Let's dive in with stick with here.

它的意思是继续做某件事，而不是放弃或者改变。

This means to continue with something instead of quitting or changing it up.

所以这可以指很多不同的事情。

So this can be about a lot of different things.

承诺、忠诚、坚持，坚持一份工作，坚持一个人。

Commitment, loyalty, persistence, sticking with a job, sticking with a person.

对。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

一个决定、一个计划，很多不同的事情。

A decision, a plan, so many different things.

而且这跟物理位置无关，比如像“待在这儿”那种。

And it's not about physical location, like stick around.

这个不一样。

This is different.

而且它也不是那么

And it's also not as

更多是关于规则或服从，比如“stick to”。

much about rules or obeying, like stick to.

对。

Exactly.

我们在第一部分讨论了“stick around”和“stick to”，但现在“stick with”有点不同，对吧？

We talked about stick around and stick to in part one, But now stick with is a little different right?

这里有一些例子。

So here are some examples.

我打算再坚持我现在的职位一年。

I'm going to stick with my current position for another year.

这意味着我会留在那里。

That means I'm going to stay there.

我会继续做那份工作。

I'm going to stay with that job.

我会坚持下去。

I'm going to stick with it.

是的。

Yes.

或者我们决定坚持原来的策略。

Or we decided to stick with the original strategy.

也许在工作中，你有一个策略，你可以改变它。

Maybe at work, you have a strategy and you could change it up.

你可以尝试其他方法。

You could try something else.

但如果你想坚持它，你会给它更多时间看看它

But if you want to stick with it, you're gonna give it a little more time to see if it

能不能成功。

could work out.

坚持下去。

Stick with it.

是的。

Yes.

不好意思，我忘了说到哪儿了。

So sorry, I lost my spot

没事，小问题。

just No a little problem.

好，我们继续。

Okay, we go.

公司困难时期不离不弃，这是另一个例子。

Stuck with the company during difficult times is another example.

所以这种情况有时会发生。

So sometimes this will happen.

比如你有一份工作，公司的情况不太顺利。

Like you may have a job, a company where things aren't going perfectly.

你知道，也许你对公司的未来不太确定。

You know, maybe you're not sure about the future of the company.

如果你决定坚持下去，你就会留在那个岗位上，努力让它好转。

If you decide to stick with it, you're going to stay in that role to try and make it work.

是的。

Yes.

没错。

Exactly.

那我们来看看一些和 stick with 相关的常用说法。

So let's do some common sayings with stick with.

第一个，我很喜欢。

So the first one, love it.

坚持下去。

Stick with it.

意思就是不要放弃。

So that means don't give up.

这里有个例句。

So here's an example sentence.

如果你坚持下去，

If you stick with it,

你的流利度就会提高，对吧？

your fluency will improve, right?

这里指的是学英语，或者如果我当时继续学西班牙语的话。

So referencing learning English or perhaps if I had continued with learning Spanish.

完全正确。

Exactly right.

或者坚持做你熟悉的事情。

Or stick with what you know.

意思就是做你已经熟悉的工作或任务。

This means, you know, doing work that you're already familiar with or tasks.

比如，我试着给我的车换机油，结果搞得一团糟。

For example, I tried to change the oil in my car and it was a disaster.

我可能还是应该做我擅长的事情。

I should probably stick with what I know.

天哪。

Oh gosh.

那倒是

That is

不是真的。

not true.

没有，但我最近在播客里跟Lindsay聊过。

Did not but I was talking recently on the podcast with Lindsay.

我不记得是在All Ears English还是Business English里提到的，但就是有些活儿我总觉得我老公会去做，然后我就想，我应该也愿意去做，比如换车里的机油、清理泳池过滤器。但其中很多活儿，也许我还是该做我擅长的，因为我可能最后只会把东西弄坏。

I can't remember if this came up on All Ears English or Business English but that I there are jobs that I often will assume that my partner will do and I was like I should be willing to do them like change the oil in the car, clean the pool filter But a lot of them, maybe I should stick with what I know because I probably would just end up breaking something.

说到擅长，我们经常聊优势，对吧？

Stickle, we talk about strengths a lot, right?

Aubrey，发挥你的优势。

Aubrey, stick with your strength.

太有意思了。

That's so funny.

好，那下一个是stick with me，这个其实有三个不同的意思。

Well and then the next one is a stick with me, and this one actually has three different meanings.

第一个意思是身体上保持靠近，比如“跟着我，别走丢了”。

So the first one is to actually stay close physically, like stick with me so I don't lose you.

这里人太多了。

It's really crowded here.

比如，你可能会对孩子或朋友这么说，或者，你知道，去听演唱会时，你和朋友手拉手穿过人群。

Like, you might say that to a child or a friend or, you know, you're going through a concert and you end up holding hands with your friend and you're going through the crowd.

或者可能

Or maybe

你在工作中培训新员工。

you're training a new employee at work.

如果是在那种地方，你知道，我想到的是制造业或者那种他们乱跑会有危险的地方。

And if it's somewhere where, you know, I'm imagining like manufacturing or somewhere where it could be dangerous for them to wander off.

你会说“跟着我”，意思是身体上靠近我，我们一起走过去，对吧？

You're like stick with me and you mean physically stay close to me while we go through here, right?

但它也可以表示保持专注，或者就是注意听。

But it could also mean to remain attentive or just pay attention.

比如说，我知道这有点让人困惑，但请继续听我说。

So for example, I know this is confusing, but stick with me.

我保证到最后你会明白的。

I promise it will make sense by the end.

所以这更多是说，不是让你身体上跟着我，而是让你的脑子跟着我，相信我，继续专心听。

So this is more saying, instead of physically stick with me, it's like, keep your brain, like trust me and keep paying attention.

在做演示的时候，可能会有很多数据和图表，一开始就给你灌输所有这些信息。

During a presentation there might be a lot of data and charts where someone is first giving you all of this information.

他们可能会说，我知道信息量很大，请继续听我说。

They might say that like, I know this is a lot, stick with me.

我们之后会深入讲解细节，对吧？

We're going to dive into details after, right?

是的，没错。

Yes, exactly.

那第三个是什么，Aubrey？

Or what's the third one Aubrey?

就是让人记住，对吧？

Is to be remembered, right?

就是一个想法、感受或教训，对你产生了持久的影响，一直留在你的记忆里。

So an idea, feeling or lesson that has made a lasting impact on you and stays in your memory.

比如，你可能会说，那些建议多年来一直让我印象深刻。

For example, you might say that advice really stuck with me over the years.

同样，在工作中，如果有人给你建议或培训，如果你学得好，你就会想，好的，这个我会记住，或者那个真的很让我难忘，它有多重要。

And again, at work, if you are given advice or training, if you learn it well, you'll be like, okay, that's gonna stick with me or that really stuck with me how important that was.

对。

Yes.

用你的母语，你有自己的个性。

In your first language, you have personality.

你会开玩笑，会插话，会反驳。

You joke, you interrupt, you push back.

但用英语的时候，你可能会觉得自己变小了，更小心翼翼，表达得不如真实的自己。

But in English, you might feel smaller, more careful, less expressive than you really are.

如果英语让你觉得自己的个性被过滤掉了，那可能是时候去理解为什么了。

If English feels like it's filtering your personality, it may be time to understand why.

我们免费的2分钟流利度测试能帮你找出是什么阻碍了你自由、自然地说话和交流。

Our free two minute fluency quiz helps you see what's holding you back from speaking freely and naturally and connecting.

另外，你还能知道自己的当前英语水平。

Plus, you get your current English level.

是B1、B2还是C1？

Is it B1, B2, or C1?

今天就测一测吧。

Find out today.

现在就去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 参加测试。

Take the quiz now at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

网址是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

好了，米歇尔，我们来做个角色扮演吧。

Alright, let's do a role play, Michelle.

你和我现在在一个商务会议上。

You and I are at a business conference here.

好的。

Okay.

我先开始吧。

I'll start us out.

好的。

Okay.

这是你第一次参加领导力会议，对吧？

This is your first leadership conference, right?

是的。

Yep.

我很兴奋，

I'm excited,

但有点让人不知所措。

but it's a little overwhelming.

别担心。

No worries.

上午跟我一起待着。

Stick with me this morning.

我会给你介绍一些合作公司的朋友。

I'll introduce you to some people from our partner companies.

哦，好主意。

Oh, good idea.

顺便问一下，那个新的项目管理软件用得怎么样？

By the way, how's the new project management software going?

说实话，我还在一些功能上有点搞不定。

Honestly, I'm still struggling with some of

那些功能。

the features.

这完全正常。

That's completely normal.

坚持下去。

Stick with it.

我们团队里一开始也有几个人这么觉得，但现在他们用起来得心应手。

A few people on our team felt that same way at first, but now they use it without thinking.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

很好。

Good.

我暂时还不会放弃它。

I won't give up on it yet.

我很好奇。

I'm curious.

最后那位演讲者有什么让你印象深刻的地方吗？

Is there anything about that last speaker that stuck with you?

哦，是的。

Oh, yes.

我真的很喜欢她说的那句话，成功的公司是那些

I really loved when she said, the companies that succeed are the

在困难时期依然保持稳定的公司。

ones that stay consistent when things get difficult.

不错。

Nice.

我很喜欢。

I love that.

那些坚持到底的公司，对吧？

The companies that stick with it, right?

太好了。

Awesome.

我们来看看这个。

Let's go through this.

有意思的是，我们说的都一样，对吧？

It's so interesting how we say it the same, right?

跟着我，坚持下去。

Stick with me, stick with it.

但在这样的对话里，它们的意思差别很大，所以听到不同的用法也很正常。

But because they have such different meanings in a conversation like this, it wouldn't be abnormal to hear it these different ways.

甚至不会觉得奇怪。

It wouldn't even sound strange.

确实如此。

That's so true.

好。

Okay.

所以你先说，今天早上跟着我，我会介绍一些合作公司的人给你认识。

So first you said, stick with me this morning and I'll introduce you to some people from our partner companies.

所以这个更偏向实际动作，对吧？

So this one is more physical, right?

你的意思是待着，你知道的，待在附近。

You're saying stay, you know, stay nearby.

我确实要介绍你认识，所以你不能一直待在另一个房间。

I'm going to actually introduce you so you can't just be in another room all the time.

没错。

Exactly.

所以另一种说法是“stay with me”。

So the other way we can say this is stay with me.

你知道的，“stay with me”，但我们也会说“stick with me”。

You know stay with me, but I'll introduce we also will say this, stick with me.

我喜欢

I like

“stick with me”。

stick with me.

我也是。

I do too.

它稍微更

It's little more It's

更友好一些。

little more friendly.

但也不是那么随意。

But not so informal.

你不会在商务场合用它。

You wouldn't use it in this, a business setting.

对，它很友好。

But yeah, it's friendly.

非常友好。

It's very friendly.

然后呢

And then

我说那完全正常。

I said that's completely normal.

坚持下去。

Stick with it.

我们团队里也有几个人有同样的感受。

A few people on our team felt the same way.

所以我就是想告诉你，别放弃。

So I'm just telling you like don't give up.

坚持下去。

Stick with it.

继续努力，这非常鼓舞人心。

Keep trying and this is very encouraging.

这也是一项很好的沟通技巧。

This is a great connection skill as well.

如果有人遇到困难，你可以说坚持下去，我也曾经很难。

If someone's struggling with something to just be like stick with it, I also had a hard time.

这种共鸣会很有帮助。

That solidarity can be helpful.

哦，是的。

Oh yeah.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

当然。

Definitely.

然后你问我，关于最后那位演讲者，有没有什么让你印象深刻的？

And then you asked me, is there anything about that last speaker that stuck with you?

就是有什么难忘的、真正打动你的地方，让你觉得……对。

So something that was memorable, something that really resonated with you so that you didn't Yes

而且我很喜欢这种提问方式。

and I love this as a way to ask this.

我们经常在会议、演讲结束后，想问问别人，而不是直接问‘你喜欢什么？’

We're often wanting to ask after a meeting, after a presentation, whatever it might be, instead of like what did you like about that?

或者‘你的收获是什么？’——这样问太随意，也太不友好了。

Or what was your takeaway which is so much more informal and unfriendly?

这样好多了。

This is so much better.

什么让你印象深刻？

What stuck with you?

你这样说更有感情，也更友好。

You're giving it a little more emotion, little more friendliness.

真的很棒。

It's really great.

所以，是的。

So this yeah.

这，这，这就结束了角色扮演部分。

That that that concludes the role play section.

不过，是的。

But yeah.

然后我想我们为听众准备了一个小投票，对吧？

Then I think we have a little poll for our listeners, don't we?

是的。

Yes.

别忘了我们的Spotify投票。

Don't miss our Spotify polls.

来听听吧。

Come and listen.

我们今天的投票是：你擅长坚持做事情吗？

Ours today is, are you good at sticking with things?

也就是说，你是容易放弃，还是即使困难也会坚持下去？

So that means do you give up easily or do you stick with it even when it's difficult?

告诉我们吧。

Let us know.

对，没错。

Yes, exactly.

还有，我

And also, I

我觉得我们本来想做的，我们有没有

think we wanted to do we have

另一集的集数？

the episode number for the other?

哦，对。

Oh, yes.

我来找一下。

I'll pull it.

给我们一个总结，Michelle，然后我会

Give us a takeaway, Michelle, and I'll

好的，那

let Alright.

我们先做总结，然后你会告诉我们，这样大家都能知道。

Let's do the takeaway, and then you're gonna let us So know so everyone can yeah.

我的意思是，在这个系列里，你们学到了stick around、stick to和stick with。

I mean, in this series, guys, you learned about stick around, stick to, and stick with.

这些词的意思都略有不同，但在谈论目标、习惯以及你真正看重的东西时，它们都非常好用。

These all have slightly different meanings, but they are really great for connecting about goals or habits and just really what you value.

没错。

Exactly.

所以，是的。

So yeah.

那我先给你第一部分。

So let me give you part one here.

哦，好的。

Oh yes.

是商务英语613期。

Was Business English six thirteen.

想学短语动词吗？

Want to learn phrasal verbs?

那就别走开。

Stick around.

我们刚才聊到了“stick to”和“stick around”这两个短语。

We talked about stick to and stick around there.

所以通过这个系列，你有好多很棒的方式来谈论人们坚持的目标，或者他们坚持不放的事情。而且你知道吗，我们对自己看重的东西、对坚持下来而不是放弃的事情，真的非常在意，这本身就很有意思。

So with this series you have so many great ways to connect about the goals people stick to or stick with and also you know it's just interesting how much we care about what is important to us, what we stuck to instead of giving up on.

哦，我很喜欢。

Oh, I love it.

好的。

Alright.

好了，各位，非常感谢你们收听这个系列，也谢谢Aubrey今天和我聊天。

Well, guys, thank you so much for listening to this series and thanks Aubrey for chatting with me today.

是的。

Yes.

太棒了。

Awesome.

下次见。

See you guys next time.

再见。

Bye.

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Remember, we believe in connection, not perfection when it comes to learning English.

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