BE 621：这期节目对你重要，还是对你有帮助？

这里是《商务英语播客》第621期。

This is the Business English Podcast episode six twenty one.

这期节目对你或者对

Is this episode important to you or for

你来说重要吗？

you?

欢迎收听All Ears English出品的《商务英语播客》。

Welcome to the Business English Podcast from All Ears English.

掌握实现全球商业梦想的英语技能。

Get the English skills you need to achieve your dreams in global business.

无论是做演讲、开会，还是参加办公室聚会，这都是由你们喜爱的美国主持人奥布里和米歇尔从亚利桑那州和纽约市为您带来的《真实商务英语》。

For a presentation, a meeting, or your office party, this is Real Business English with your favorite American hosts, Aubrey and Michelle, coming to you from Arizona and New York City, USA.

你有没有过这样的经历：开完会出来心想，我刚才其实可以说得更好？

Have you ever walked out of a meeting thinking, I could have said that better.

你明明什么都听懂了，但说出来的话却简短、模糊，或者完全不像你想表达的那样。

You understood everything but your response came out short or unclear or not quite like you.

也许你的想法很出色，但你的英语还没能充分展现出来。

Maybe your ideas are strong but your English doesn't show it yet.

你明明知道那些词，却突然想不起来。

You forget words you know.

没法自然地表达，语速一快就只能默默在后面追赶。

You can't explain things naturally and fast conversations leave you quietly catching up.

这种落差确实让人沮丧，但它的问题很具体，也完全可以解决。

That gap can be frustrating but it's also very specific and very fixable.

我们的两分钟流利度测试能帮你找出差距，并判断你的水平是B1、B2还是C1。

Our two minute fluency quiz helps you understand where that gap is and whether your level is B1, B2, or C1.

清楚自己的水平后，进步会感觉更轻松、更快。

When you know your level, progress feels lighter and faster.

现在就去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 参加测试，让你说英语时能跟上思维的速度。

Take the quiz now at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore and move closer to speaking English the way you think.

再提醒一次，网址是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

One more time, go to allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

嘿，米歇尔。

Hey, Michelle.

你最近怎么样？

How are you doing?

我挺好的。

I am doing well.

奥布里，我有个问题想问你。

Aubrey, I have a question for you.

太好了。

Great.

是的。

Yes.

你现在最重要的是什么？

What is most important to you right now?

对我来说，最重要的是让孩子们忙起来，有事情做。

The most important thing to me is keeping my children busy and entertained.

最近我跟很多人聊过，说我正努力让孩子们少看屏幕，或者至少别花那么多时间在上面，这对我来说真是个大工程。

I've been talking to a lot of people lately about how I'm trying to get them off screen or at least not nearly as much screen time, which is so much work for me.

比如我得带他们去参加各种活动，或者亲自陪他们玩，因为特别是在亚利桑那州的夏天，天气太热，孩子们没法像平时那样直接出去玩耍，挺可惜的。

Like I am having to take them to things or entertain them because especially in Arizona in the summer they can't just go play outside unfortunately.

也许他们会去游游泳，但很快也就觉得累了。

And then maybe they'll swim but then they're tired of it.

所以要让孩子们保持忙碌、玩得开心，从而减少盯着屏幕的时间，真的需要花很多心思。我的目标就是不希望孩子们一直对着屏幕。

So it's a lot of work to keep kids you know, entertained and busy so that they're not just on screen, which that's my goal, is to not have my kids on screen all the time.

你呢？

What about you?

那对我来说也很重要。

That's the most important for too.

你是想让孩子少看屏幕吗？

You're keeping kids off screen?

好的。

Okay.

不过，每次你这么说，我都觉得有点懵，Aubrey，因为我从来不说‘离开屏幕’这种说法。

Although, every time you say this, I'm thrown off, Aubrey, because I never say off screen.

我一般只说‘远离屏幕’。

I would just say off Off screens.

有意思。

Interesting.

确实是这样。

That's so Yeah.

所以你一直这么说，而我呢，总想干脆算了。

So you keep on saying it, and and I keep on just wanting to let it go.

然后我就想，行吧，我得说点什么了。

And then I'm like, okay, I have to say something.

这真的挺有意思的。

That's really interesting.

所以这两种情况我都听说了。

So I've heard both for sure.

我们现在开始说，我也开始听到了，因为我们常说屏幕时间。

We're starting to say, and I'm starting to hear because we say screen time.

然后我们把屏幕时间简称为屏幕。

And then we shorten screen time to screen.

所以其实我的意思是让他们远离屏幕，尽量减少他们的屏幕使用时间。

Off So really what I mean is to keep them off screen time to minimize their screen time.

接着这个说法又被简化成了单纯的屏幕，你说得对。

And then that is getting getting shortened to just screen because you're right.

如果我们说，嗯，如果你现在把它当作问责工具，那我们就说屏幕。

If we would say, know, if you're using it as accountable now, then we would say screens.

我们这期节目是在即兴发挥吗？

Are we just ad libbing this episode?

我开玩笑的。

I'm joking.

问责。

Accountable.

有点难搞。

Tricky.

给你们讲点小语法。

Little grammar for you guys.

有意思。

Interesting.

对，两个都对。

Yes both are correct.

挺搞笑的。

It's funny.

这让我想起我孩子们说在网上搜东西的时候，我可能会说“谷歌一下”或者“搜一下”。

It reminds me my kids say when they talk about searching something online, I would maybe say Google it or search it.

他们说“搜起来”。

They say search up.

他们会说：“我要去搜起来。”

They're like, I'm going to search up something.

对，我正要去搜一下。

Yeah, I'm going to go search that up.

但我就想，这说法哪来的？

But I'm like, where did that come from?

谁会说“搜一下”啊？

Who says search up?

然后他们说，妈，大家都这么说。

And they're like, mom, everyone says search up.

我就说，好吧。

I'm like, okay.

天哪。

Oh gosh.

好吧，我们刚录完那期节目。

Well, we just did that episode.

一切都在变化。

Everything's evolving.

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yes.

孩子们说话。

Kids talk.

孩子们说话的方式。

The way kids talk.

太搞笑了。

So funny.

好。

Okay.

所以，不管怎样，是的。

So anyway, what yes.

那对我来说也很重要。

That is important to me as well.

唯一不同的是，我说的是复数‘screens’，你说的是单数‘screen’。

The only thing that is different is that I say screens and you say screen.

不过，是的，对我来说很重要的一点是确保孩子们度过一个愉快的夏天，同时也让他们吃些健康的食物。

But, yes, it is important to me to make sure that my kids have a fun summer and and also that they eat some healthy food.

不总是健康食品，而是减少屏幕时间。

Doesn't always Healthy food, less screen time.

嗯，我在YouTube上看到一个很有趣的问题，关于‘important to’和‘important for’的区别。

Well, got a really interesting question on YouTube about important to versus important for.

今天我很期待深入探讨这个话题。

I'm excited to dive into this today.

这在语言上确实是个细微的差别，但我知道你们已经准备好了。

This is a real nuance in language, but I know you guys are ready for this.

咱们先来看看这个问题。

Let's go ahead and read this question.

首先，这个问题来自 ChangYoyo967。

First of all, this is from ChangYoyo967.

我来给大家读一下这个问题。

I'll read the question for us.

他们说，我是你的老粉丝了，听了你播客的几百万集。

They said, I'm a long time fan and I've listened to a million episodes of your podcast.

我喜欢这种夸张的说法。

I love that hyperbole.

那种有趣的夸张。

That fun exaggeration.

是的，我也很喜欢。

Yes, love it too.

感觉就像听了几百万集一样。

It feels like a million episodes.

其实还没到那个程度。

Not quite there yet.

我说，但今天是我第一次看你的视频。

I said, but today is the first time I watched you on video.

我还在适应这个，因为光听和边看边听感觉差别挺大的。

I'm still adapting to it since listening and watching can feel very different.

确实是这样。

That's so true.

如果你去YouTube上看播客，我也遇到过那种情况，就是看到本人跟我想象的完全不一样。

If you go and watch a podcast on YouTube, I've had that experience too where people look nothing like I expected.

对。

Yes.

因为你在播客里只能听到他们的声音。

Because you just see their voices on the podcast.

有意思。

Funny.

真的是这样。

It's so true.

好吧。

Alright.

问题来了。

Here's the question.

我有一些关于介词的问题。

I have some questions about prepositions.

当我尝试造句时，有时候我分不清两个词，因为它们听起来都对，我不知道哪个是正确的。

When I try to make a sentence, sometimes I can't distinguish two words as they both sound okay to me and I don't know which one is correct.

比如“for”和“to”就是例子。

Some examples are for or to.

比如说，“it is important to me to be prepared for any emergency”还是“it is important for me to be prepared for any emergency”？

For example, it is important to me to be prepared for any emergency or it is important for me to be prepared for any emergency?

好的，这个问题问得真好。

Okay, really great question.

我很期待深入探讨这个问题。

I'm excited to dive into this.

是的，好的。

Yes, okay.

对，之后我们会在其他期节目里讲更多例子，因为听众提供了不少案例，但今天咱们先专注解决这一个。

Yeah, and then another episode we'll cover other examples because the listener gave more examples, but we're just gonna focus on this one today.

所以如果你不想错过我们的其他期节目，记得点击关注按钮哦。

So if you don't wanna miss other episodes of our show, make sure that you hit the follow button.

没错，不管你在哪里听，搜索一下 All Ears English 的 Business English Podcast，你会看到一个亮红色的方块，一定要点关注，这样就不会漏掉任何一期了。

Yes, definitely wherever you are listening, search the Business English Podcast by All Ears English, you'll see the bright red square and be sure to hit follow so you never miss an episode.

对，就是这样。

Yes, exactly.

好的，非常感谢这位听众提出这个问题。

Alright, so thank you so much to our listener for this question.

这个问题问得特别好。

This is a great one.

这对进阶学习者来说特别有帮助，因为你们在课堂上可能没怎么学过这个知识点。其实这两个词在含义和用法上有一些细微的差别。

And it's really great for more advanced learners because they're not, you you guys may not have been commonly taught this, right, in a classroom setting, but there is a subtle difference in meaning and usage.

所以今天我们就来详细讲讲这一点。

So we are going to get to this today.

那我们直接进入今天的主题：important to 和 important for 的区别。

So let's go ahead and get into important to versus important for.

Aubrey，你先来开头怎么样？

So Aubrey, you want to get us started?

好的，说 it's important to me 意思是这件事对你个人来说很重要，对吧？

Yeah, so it's important to me means you personally care about something, right?

它表达的是你作为一个人在乎什么，是关于你的个人价值观或感受，通常比 important for me 更带感情色彩。

It tells what matters to you as a person, tell it's about your personal values or feelings and is often a little more emotional than important for me.

比如，支持我的团队对我来说很重要。

So for example, it's important to me to support my team.

这句话的意思是，我在乎团队成员的感受和他们的成功。

So this is saying, you know, I care about my team's feelings and success.

或者说，找到工作与生活的平衡对我来说很重要。

Or finding the right work life balance is important to me.

这句话表达的是，我很看重这种平衡的生活。

This says I value that balanced life.

或者，准时开会对我们经理来说很重要。

Or being on time for meetings is important to our manager.

所以这只是在说，经理重视守时和时间。

So this is just saying that the manager values punctuality and time.

对，所以这可以放在一句话的开头，对吧？

Yeah, so this can be at the beginning of a thought, right?

对我来说，和同事建立良好关系很重要。

It's important to me to build rapport with my coworkers.

或者也可以放在一句话的结尾。

Or it could also come at the end of a thought.

你可以说，清晰的沟通对我来说很重要。

You could say, clear communication is important to me.

所以你可以把重要的事情放在前面或后面说。

So you can either name the thing that's important before or after.

对，对，就是这样。

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

那我们先来，看看‘这对我很重要’这个表达。

So let's start, let's go into it's important for me.

这意味着它能帮你把事情做好。

So this means it will help you do something well.

所以这里讲的是好处、成功，或者是结果和成效。

So this is about benefit or success or results or outcomes.

跟前面那种情感层面的‘对我很重要’相比，这个更偏向实际效用。

And it's more practical than it is emotional like the other one, like important to me.

比如，对我来说，开会前做好准备很重要。

So for example, it's important for me to prepare before meetings.

也就是说，这种准备工作能帮我表现得更好。

So this is saying that this preparation helps me perform well.

没错。

Exactly.

这点挺有意思的，因为如果你把句子里的介词换一下，改成‘开会前做好准备对我而言很重要’。

And this is really interesting because if you switch out the preposition there in the same sentence and say it's important to me to prepare before meetings.

现在这是一种情感上的价值。

Now it's an emotion of value.

比如我觉得这很重要，因为我想成为一个可靠的人。

Like I find this important because I want to be a dependable person.

想成为大家能信赖的人。

Want to be someone we can rely on.

仅仅改变一个介词，意思就完全不一样了。

It's actually a total different meaning with just the change of a preposition.

真的很有意思。

Really interesting.

或者再举个例子，对我来说，在做决定之前收集所有数据很重要。

Or another example, it's important for me to gather all the data before making a decision.

也就是说，掌握所有数据会带来更好的结果。

So this says that you know knowing all the data is going to lead to a better result.

这能确保或提高我成功的机会。

This is going to guarantee or improve my chance of success.

或者对我们团队来说，按时完成任务很重要。

Or it's important for our team to meet deadlines.

这意味着这能帮团队保持进度并取得成功。

And this is saying this helps the team stay on track and succeed.

如果你说这对我们团队很重要，那里面就多了一点情感色彩。

If you were going to say it's important to our team, it's more there's a little bit more emotion to it.

所以这就是区别所在。

So that would be the difference.

你觉得，要是你在街上拦住一个母语者，问他们这两者的区别，他们是不是也得仔细琢磨一下？

And would you say, like, you asked if you stopped a native speaker on the street and you asked them the difference, they would really have to think about it.

是啊，我刚开始看到这个问题的时候也是这么想的，心想：行吧，让我好好想想，举几个例子看看。

That's what's Oh, when I read this question first I'm like, okay, me think, let me think through a few examples.

对。

Yes.

那我为什么这么用呢？

Why am I using it?

对，英语里像这样的情况还挺多的。

Yeah, this is not a lot of things like this about English.

母语者其实也没仔细琢磨过这些区别。

Native speakers haven't thought it through.

他们只是凭感觉知道哪个读起来更顺耳。

They just know which one sounds right.

没错。

Exactly.

他们只是习惯了听和用其中一种。

They just know which one they're used to hearing and using.

他们并不知道原因。

They don't know why.

这点挺有意思的。

And this is interesting.

这里的句式结构有点不一样，对吧？

The structure is a little different here, right?

你会说，这对某人很重要，先说出那个人，然后再说重要的事情。

You're going to say it's important for, name the person and then say the thing that's important.

所以它会放在句子的开头。

So it'll come at the beginning of a sentence.

比如说，对她来说，通过反复尝试来学习很重要，但这不会放在句子的末尾。

For example, it's important for her to learn through trial and error, but it doesn't come at the end of the sentence.

这样会有点别扭。

This would sort of be awkward.

听起来会很别扭。

It would sound awkward.

对。

Exactly.

在你的母语里，你是有个性的。

In your first language, you have personality.

你会开玩笑，会插话，会反驳。

You joke, you interrupt, you push back.

但在英语里，你可能会觉得自己变得拘谨、小心翼翼，表达欲也没那么强了。

But in English, you might feel smaller, more careful, less expressive than you really are.

如果你觉得英语在压抑你的个性，那可能是时候弄清楚原因了。

If English feels like it's filtering your personality, it may be time to understand why.

我们有个免费的两分钟流利度测试，能帮你找出阻碍你自由自然表达和建立连接的问题所在。

Our free two minute fluency quiz helps you see what's holding you back from speaking freely and naturally and connecting.

而且你还能知道自己的英语水平。

Plus, you get your current English level.

是B1、B2，还是C1？

Is it b one, b two, or c one?

今天就来测一测。

Find out today.

去 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore 做个小测试吧。

Take the quiz at allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

网址就是 allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。

That's allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore.

好的。

All right.

我们来对比一下，这位听众提供的例子。

Let's compare, the example our listener had.

他说，对我来说，为任何紧急情况做好准备很重要。

So they shared, it is important to me to be prepared for any emergency.

这意味着我很看重有备无患。

This means I care about being prepared.

这是我一直秉持的价值观，对吧？

It's a value I have, right?

那第二个例子，也就是数字四那个呢？

And what about the second example with four?

对，比如你说自己必须为各种紧急情况做好准备，这就意味着有备无患能让你更好地应对局面。

Yeah, so if you say it's important for me to be prepared for any emergency, this is saying that being prepared helps me handle the situation better.

所以你看，其实只是换了一个词而已，对吧？

So you know, it's really just the change of one word, right?

这两句话只差了一个小小的词，但传达出的价值观却完全不同。

One tiny word difference between these sentences, but it really does convey different values.

用其中一个或另一个在语法上并不一定算错。

It's not necessarily grammatically wrong to use one or the other.

母语者不会觉得你介词用错了而纠正你。

Native speakers aren't gonna be like, no, that was the wrong preposition.

他们只是会对你的意思有不同的理解。没错。

They're just going to interpret your meaning differently Because Exactly.

你想表达的意思会根据介词的不同而变化。

What you intend to say changes depending on the preposition.

那我们就再练几个例子，然后就开始角色扮演吧。

So let's just do a couple more and then we'll do a role play.

对我来说，在工作中建立牢固的人际关系很重要。

So, it's important to me to build strong relationships at work.

所以我看重的是人与人之间的联结。

So I value connection.

这就是它想表达的意思。

That's what that's saying.

如果你说，对，对我来说，在工作中建立良好的人际关系意味着这有助于我在职业上取得成功。

If you say, yeah, for me to build strong relationships at work means this will help me succeed professionally.

或者说，我很重视在演讲后获得反馈。

Or it's important to me to get feedback after presentations.

这就表示我个人很看重反馈意见。

So this is saying I personally value feedback.

或者说，对我来说，在演讲后获得反馈很重要，这意味着这能帮助我提升表现。

Or it's important for me to get feedback after presentations means this could help my performance.

我可能不太喜欢它，也许我并不看重它，但我明白这是不得不做的必要之举。

I might not like it, maybe I don't value it, but I recognize it's a necessary evil.

好，我们来做个角色扮演，把这些都运用起来。

Alright, let's do a role play and put these both to work here.

假设你和我在同一家公司工作。

So you and I work at the same company.

我是经理，你是新员工，你即将开始新工作的培训。

I am a manager, you're a new employee, you're about to start training for the new job.

我先开始吧。

I'll start us off.

好的。

Alright.

好。

Okay.

我们真的很高兴你加入团队。

We're really happy to have you join the team.

谢谢，我很高兴能在这里。

Thanks, I'm happy to be here.

我想让你知道，对我来说，让你感到自在提问很重要。

And I wanted you to know, it's important to me that you feel comfortable asking questions.

如果你有什么不明白的，请尽管问我们中的任何一个人。

If you don't understand something, please do not hesitate to ask one of us.

真的非常感谢。

Oh, I really appreciate that.

我也很乐意接受大家的建议。

And I'm also very open to feedback.

我觉得这对提升我的工作能力很重要。

I think it's important for me to improve in the role.

没错，我完全同意。

Definitely, I couldn't agree more.

没错，整个培训期间我们都会提供反馈。

And yes, we will be offering feedback throughout the whole training process.

好的，听起来不错。

Alright, sounds good.

我很期待开始工作。

I'm looking forward to getting started.

太好了。

Nice.

所以首先我说，让你感到舒服对我来说很重要。

So first I said it's important to me that you feel comfortable.

那是因为我在分享我自己的一个价值观。

And that is because I'm sharing a value I have.

一个优先事项。

A priority.

一件我会在情感上有所触动的事情。

Something that I would feel some kind of emotional about.

某种情感上的共鸣。

Some kind of emotion about.

然后我说，我觉得在这个岗位上提升自己很重要。

And then I said, I think it's important for me to improve in the role.

这更像是逻辑上的。

Like this is more logical.

这更多只是有助于我的表现。

This is more just it's gonna help my performance.

没错。

Exactly.

这里面没有情感因素。

There's no emotion there.

这完全关乎你的成功和你的表现。

It's all about your success, your performance.

所以说，挺有意思的。

So yeah, it's interesting.

如果你说，我觉得在这个岗位上提升很重要。

And if you did say, I think it's important to me to improve in the role.

这挺有意思的，因为根据语境不同，这句话的意思可能和你原本想表达的不一样。

It's interesting because depending on the context, it will it will be just not the meaning you intend.

而且往往因为一个是情绪化的，另一个是理性的，听起来可能会让人觉得有点奇怪。

And often because one is emotional and one isn't, it might sound strange to someone.

如果在本该理性看待成功的事情上掺杂了情绪，你就能理解为什么会出现这种脱节了。

If we're using emotion when something should be disconnected logical about success, you can see why there would be a disconnect there.

所以这对沟通来说真的很重要，要确保用对词，才能传达出你想表达的意思。

So this really is important for connection to make sure that you're using the right one so that you convey the meaning you intend.

说得好，Aubrey。

Very good point, Aubrey.

好的。

All right.

好了，各位，如果你们还没听过《商务英语播客》第617集，记得去听一下。

Well, guys, if you haven't already check out episode six seventeen of the Business English Podcast.

那就是坚持和我们一起，助你在商务英语上取得成功。

That was stick with us for business English success.

是的。

Yes.

那一集里有一些有趣的短语动词。

Some fun phrasal verbs in that episode.

如果错过了，就往上翻一翻。

So scroll up if you missed it.

米歇尔，我们下次见。

And Michelle, I will see you next time.

我很期待能尽快再录一期节目。

It's important to me that we record again soon.

哎呀。

Aw.

这对节目也很重要。

And it's important for the show.

没错。

Exactly.

太棒了。

Awesome.

谢谢。

Thanks.

我们下次见。

We'll see you guys next time.

好的。

Alright.

再见，大家。

Bye, guys.

感谢收听《商务英语》，一个专为追求卓越的全球职场人士打造的播客。

Thank you for listening to Business English, a podcast just for you, the high achieving global professional.

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