BE 633：语言学习的秘密

这里是商务英语播客第633集，主题是语言学习的秘诀。

This is the business English podcast episode six thirty three, the secret to language learning.

欢迎收听来自All Ears English的商务英语播客。

Welcome to the business English podcast from All Ears English.

获取你需要的英语技能，在全球商务中实现你的梦想。

Get the English skills you need to achieve your dreams in global business.

无论是演讲、会议还是办公室聚会，这都是由你最喜爱的美国主持人Lindsay和Aubrey带来的真实商务英语，她们分别来自美国亚利桑那州和科罗拉多州。

For a presentation, a meeting, or your office party, this is Real Business English with your favorite American hosts, Lindsay and Aubrey, coming to you from Arizona and Colorado, USA.

嘿，Lindsay。

Hey, Lindsay.

最近怎么样？

How's it going?

还不错，Aubrey。

It's going pretty well, Aubrey.

你呢？

How are you?

一切都好吗？

How's everything?

我很好。

I'm great.

我很好奇。

I'm curious.

你觉得你在语言学习方面天生有天赋吗？

Would you consider yourself naturally gifted when it comes to learning languages?

嗯，最近我这边有点小地震，因为十一月我要和家人去法国，奥布里。

Well, recently, I've had a bit of a earthquake here because I'm going to France with my family, Aubrey, in November.

所以我就……

And so I...

显然，我要负责说法语，这太吓人了，因为，是的，我历来觉得自己还不错，因为我觉得我的西班牙语挺强的，相当流利，能聊得起来。

Apparently, I'm gonna be the French speaker, which is terrifying because, yes, I have historically considered myself good because I feel pretty strong in Spanish, quite strong, quite conversational.

但我现在想重新捡起法语，结果很糟糕。

But I'm trying to pick up French again, and it's bad.

真的很糟糕。

It's really bad.

我会提

I'll bring

起来。

it up.

挺有意思的。

It's funny.

真的很尴尬。

It's really embarrassing.

上周我上了一节italki课，我一上去，就只会往外蹦西班牙语单词，还夹杂着很多“哎呀，哦，天哪”。

I had an italki lesson last week, and I got on there, and all I did was throw out words in Spanish with a lot of, uh-oh, oh, man.

就是一堆“哦，这不行”。

Just a lot of, Oh, this is bad.

就是一大堆。

Just a lot.

我完全明白你的

I totally know what you

意思，因为我先学了法语再学西班牙语，我经常会把法语单词混进去，或者用法语发音说西班牙语。

mean because I learned Spanish after French and I would constantly throw in French words or I would use French pronunciation instead of Spanish.

它们太相似了，真的会让人搞混。

Related enough so they can really mix you up.

哦，那太糟糕了。

Oh, it's terrible.

所以是的，这些天我对自己的水平很没信心，不知道该怎么办。

So yeah, these days I'm really down on my skills, so I'm not sure what to do.

也许我会

Maybe I'll

学一下。所以你会回答那些问题吗？我会说不会。

learn So you would answer some those of I would say no.

挺有意思的。

It's funny.

我以前会在多邻国上花些时间学西班牙语和法语，但后来我在上面发现了国际象棋。

I used to spend some time on Duolingo with my Spanish and French, but then I discovered chess on there.

现在只要我有时间上多邻国，我就只下棋。

And now all I do is whenever I have time for Duolingo, I play chess.

我就像在学习策略一样。

I'm like learning strategies.

我儿子特别喜欢下棋，所以

My son loves chess, so

我就说，多邻国啊。

I'm like Duolingo.

你还能下棋。

You could play

多邻国现在有国际象棋和音乐，所以它现在让我分心，没法专心学语言，因为我就想提高我的棋艺。

Duolingo has chess and music, and so now it's like distracting me from my language learning because I just want to improve my chess skills.

好吧。

Okay.

太棒了。

Very cool.

我喜欢这个。

I like that.

所以今天我们聊的是擅长语言和不擅长语言这个话题。

So we're getting into the concept of being good at languages or not being good at languages today.

Aubrey，跟我们多讲讲吧。

Aubrey, tell us more.

如果你曾经想过，你知道，我就是不擅长学语言，那这一集就是为你准备的。

If you've ever thought, you know, I'm just not good at learning languages, this episode is for you.

这灵感来自我找到的一篇文章，叫《学习语言：心态比天赋更重要》，这让我觉得特别有意思，因为我确实觉得有一种普遍的看法，或者可能是误解，认为学语言的天赋特别重要，以至于有些人会说，我就是不擅长学语言。

This was inspired by an article that I found called Learning a Your Mindset Matters More Than Having a Knack, which this was really fascinating to me because I do think there's this common understanding or misconception maybe that having a knack for learning languages is so vital that some people will like, I'm just not good at learning languages.

就是学起来不容易。

It just doesn't come easily to me.

也许这并没有我们想的那么重要。

And maybe that doesn't matter as much as we thought.

对，一旦我们认定自己不擅长某件事，我觉得我们可能会失去很多脑力或能力。

Yeah, once we make a decision that we're not good at something, I feel like we probably lose a lot of brainpower or ability.

我们实际上在某种程度上失去了这种能力。

We actually lose the ability in a way.

我觉得这真的会让我们思维封闭。

Think it really closes our mind.

是的，完全同意。

Yeah, absolutely.

所以这很有意思。

So this was interesting.

作者是张子佳和金伯利·诺尔斯。

The authors were Zijia Zhang and Kimberly Knowles.

文章发表于2025年2月。

It was published February 2025.

所以我们会分享这篇文章里一些有趣的内容，也会聊聊我们自己的看法。

So we're going to share some of the interesting details from this article, share also some of our own thoughts.

但也许你确实更擅长学英语、学语言，或者也许不是。

But maybe you do have more of an affinity for learning English, for learning languages, or maybe not.

也许你正卡在某个瓶颈期，心里想，也许我就是不擅长这个。

Maybe you're kind of stuck on this plateau and you're like, maybe I'm just not good at this.

我很高兴你能了解这些细节，这样你就能调整心态，如果你意识到心态有多重要的话。

I'm excited for you to have these details so that you can maybe adjust your mindset if you realize how much your mindset matters.

其实，这就是为什么我们在节目里强调连接。

I mean, a lot of that is why we focus on connection here on this show.

这对 All Ears English 来说真的很核心，因为我经历过……

This is really central to what All Ears English is because I've experienced the...

我是说，法语是我学的第一门语言，我当时经常卡壳。

I mean, French was the first language I learned, and I did a lot of freezing up.

那很学术化。

It was very academic.

我觉得和很多听众学英语的经历挺像的。

I think pretty similar to what a lot of our listeners have experienced with English.

所以法语一直是我觉得自己学不会的语言。

So French has always been this language that I feel like I can't do.

但西班牙语是另一段旅程。

But Spanish was a different journey.

我是通过旅行学会的，我意识到连接比什么都重要。

I learned it traveling, and I realized that connection matters more than anything.

对我来说，学西班牙语的意义在于和南美洲的人建立联系。

The point of learning Spanish was connecting with other people in South America for me.

重点不是语言本身，对吧？

It wasn't the language, right?

完全正确。

Absolutely.

所以你对它的心态完全不同，对吧？

So had such a different mindset about it, right?

你是在连接，你是在学习如何对话，而不是从书本或课堂上学习。

Were connecting, you were learning to have conversations instead of from a book for a class.

所以你的心态就会完全不一样。

And so your mindset would have been totally different.

这就是我们整个节目的核心理念——找到比语言本身更重要的东西。

So, this is where our whole philosophy for this entire show comes from, is finding something that matters more than just the language itself.

你通过语言能得到什么？

What do you get through the language?

所以我很期待深入这个话题。

So, I'm excited to get into this.

所以大家一定要记得在收听播客的地方点关注。

So, be sure guys to hit follow wherever you listen to podcasts.

如果你还没关注Business English播客，打开搜索栏搜一下，点关注，这样就不会错过任何一期节目了。

If you're not following the Business English podcast, open your search bar and search and hit follow so you never miss any of our episodes.

太棒了。

Love it.

那作者们关于语言心态都聊了些什么？

So what did the authors talk about around language mindset?

所以他们提出，在学习语言时，心态比天赋更重要。

So they were suggesting that mindset is more important than natural talent when learning languages.

而且无论你在哪里工作，我相信你也发现了这一点。

And wherever you work, I'm sure that you have found this as well.

心态往往比任何天生的亲和力都重要，不管一个人从事什么职业。

Your mindset is often more important than any kind of natural affinity for whatever someone does as a profession.

我们都见过这种情况，所以这也同样适用于语言学习。

We've all seen So it makes sense that that translates to language learning as well.

哦，完全同意。

Oh, completely.

这完全说得通。

This makes total sense.

我确实觉得，当我们说“这件事我做不了”或“我不擅长这个”的时候，大脑会发生一些变化。

I do think something happens with the brain when we say this is something I can't do or that I'm not good at.

我觉得这就像是在给大脑发信号，对吧？

I think it just signals to the mind, right?

身体会跟着大脑走，某种程度上这就成了自我实现的预言。

The body follows the brain and it ends up being a self fulfilling prophecy in a way.

没错。

Exactly.

我们相信这一点。

We believe it.

我们给自己设下这些障碍和壁垒，突然之间事情就变得极其困难，因为我们相信自己做不到。

We put up these blockers and this wall and suddenly it's extremely difficult because we believe that we can't do it.

好的。

Okay.

奥布里，我们还需要了解什么？

What else do we need to know here, Aubrey?

这篇文章的作者把这种语言心态描述为一个人如何看待特定的事物，包括他们的整体语言能力，也就是你目前的能力水平。

So the authors of this article describe this language mindset as how someone views specific things, Their general language intelligence, which is sort of your current abilities where they are now.

比如你在学英语，你掌握的词汇量、流利度、你目前的能力，还有你学习新语言的能力，以及你对此的看法，过去学起来是否轻松。

Like you are learning English, you know, the vocabulary you have mastery of, your fluency, your abilities where they are, and then also your ability to pick up a new language and what you believe about that, how easily it has come to you in the past.

然后他们还谈到了年龄的影响，对吧？

And then also they talk about how age plays a role, right?

所以这也很有意思，因为有很多研究在探讨，是小孩子学语言更快，还是成年人学得更快？

So we're, this is interesting as well because there's a lot of study out there about do small children learn languages faster or is it adults that can learn more quickly?

哦，这太有意思了。

Oh, super interesting.

所以当我们谈到不同的心态，因为心态也适用于语言学习，我们可能会有……

So when we talk about different mindsets because mindset applies to language learning, we can have...

最近出现了很多术语，对吧？

There's a lot of terminology here that has come out recently, right?

成长型思维。

Growth mindset.

那是什么，Aubrey？

What is that, Aubrey?

是的，成长型思维就是相信能力可以通过努力来提升，对吧？

Yeah, that growth mindset means to believe that abilities can be improved with effort, right?

如果说我有成长型思维，那就意味着我知道我可以在这方面进步。

If you say I have a growth mindset, that means I know I can improve this.

我知道我能做得更好。

I know I can do better.

而固定型思维则正好相反。

And then a fixed mindset is just the opposite.

我们认为能力，或者说在这里指语言能力，是天生的。

We believe that abilities or let's say language abilities in this case are just innate.

也许我们天生就有这种天赋，而且你无法获得更多。

Maybe we're kind of born with this talent and you can't get more of it.

你也不会失去它。

You can't get less of it.

它就是……

It's just...

你天生就有。

You've just got it.

或者你没有。

Or you don't.

不管付出多少努力，都不觉得自己能变得更好。

No matter how much effort you put in, don't feel like you could get better.

然后还有一种混合心态，就是两者的结合。

And then we have a mixed mindset, which is sort of a combination of both.

你觉得自己在某方面可能天生有天赋，但仍然可以通过努力去提高。

You feel like you might be naturally talented at something, but you could still work to improve at it.

对，没错。

Yes, exactly.

那作者还说了关于这些心态的其他内容吗？

And what else did the author say here about these mindsets?

是的，文章里有一句很有意思的话，最终是拥有成长型思维的学习者，比固定型思维的人更有可能在他们学习的语言上变得更熟练。

Yeah, this is an interesting quote from the article, which was ultimately learners with a growth mindset are likely to become more proficient in the language they are learning than a person with a fixed mindset.

所以那些相信自己有某些天生能力的人，学到的东西不会比有成长型思维的人多。

So someone who believes that they have certain innate abilities will not learn as much as someone with a growth mindset.

这确实很有道理。

And that really makes sense.

完全同意。

100%.

完全同意。

100%.

我很喜欢这个观点。

I love it.

知道这一点很重要，或者你也可以对某些语言做A/B测试，对吧？

So important to know, Or you could AB test certain languages too, right?

了解你的心态或学习条件是什么。

What your mindset or conditions for learning are.

那我们接下来该聊什么呢，Aubrey？

So where should we go from here, Aubrey?

我们分享这个观点有几个原因。

So we're sharing this point of view for a few reasons.

我们知道很多听众跟我们说过，他们有点卡住了。

We know that a lot of listeners have expressed to us that they're sort of stuck.

他们在某个阶段遇到了瓶颈，这可能更多跟你的心态有关，而不是你的天赋。

They kind of plateau at a certain point, and this might have more to do with your mindset than with your innate abilities.

所以如果你觉得，这变得太难了，也许我没时间，也许我就是不擅长学语言。

So if you're sort of thinking that like, this has just gotten really difficult, maybe I don't have time, maybe I'm just not as good at language learning.

我们很高兴告诉你，拥有正确的心态可能会帮你突破这个瓶颈。

We're excited to share with you that having the right mindset might help you get past that plateau.

是的，完全正确。

Yes, exactly.

我是说，对，就像我们之前说的，这变成了一个自我实现的预言。

I mean, yeah, like we said before, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

某种程度上，如果你觉得自己能行，能进步，那就真的会发生。

Whatever kind of in a way, if you think you can do something and make progress, it will happen.

因为我们是用一种非常不同的方式在看待事情。

Because we're approaching things in a very different way.

没错。

Exactly.

而且那种消极情绪会让你放慢脚步，甚至让你彻底放弃。

And that negativity can slow you down or cause you to give up entirely.

所以，相信自己能学会、能进步、能突破瓶颈，这会让你保持动力。

So believing that you can learn, that you can improve, that you can get past that plateau will help you stay motivated.

帮你保持动力。

Helps you stay motivated.

还有另一部分，我在佛教修行和冥想中经常思考的，结合神经科学，当我们意识到某件事时，我们就会找到它。

And the other piece, something that I look at a lot in my Buddhist practice and meditation, thinking about neuroscience, when we're aware of something, we find it.

所以如果我想，我能学会一门语言，我就会找到证据证明我学会了那门语言。

So if I think to myself, I can learn a language, I will find evidence that I have learned that language.

我会……

I will...

我的大脑会更多地注意到我说对的时候，而不是说错的时候。

My brain will notice more when I said something correctly than maybe than when I said something wrong.

它只会注意到，哦，我在这里、那里、那里都说对了。

It'll just note, oh, I said it right there and there and there.

然后我们把那些串起来，就会带来更多的成功。

And then we string that together and that creates more success.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

我们的大脑在寻找方法来正面强化我们正在做的事情。

Our brains are looking for ways to reinforce positively what we're doing.

所以我们是在利用这些。

So we're pulling on those things.

没错。

Exactly.

而且学习带来的自信，对吧？

And the confidence that comes from learning, right?

如果我们的心态忽略了这一点，忽略了我们在取得的进步，那我们就不会继续保持动力，继续学习。

If with our mindset, we're ignoring that, we're ignoring the progress we are making, then we're not going to continue to stay motivated and continue to learn.

所以我们不要因为学习曲线、起步慢或者平台期而气馁。

So we don't, you know, don't get discouraged by any kind of learning curve or slow start or plateau.

让自己在学到的每一个新单词、每一次能和别人交流的对话中积累信心。

Allow yourself to gain confidence with every new word you learn, with every conversation you have where you're able to connect with someone.

让这些成为增强信心的动力。

Help that be, let that be a confidence builder.

没错。

Exactly.

我的意思是，固定型思维的人会关注犯的错误，而成长型思维的人可能更关注，哦，从那个错误中得到了什么？

I mean, so someone with a fixed mindset is going to focus on making mistakes versus someone with a more growth mindset is probably going to focus on, oh, what came from that mistake?

他们从那个错误中学到了什么？

What did they learn from that mistake?

或者从那个错误中获得了什么连接时刻，这就是我们在All Ears English里喜欢讨论的。

Or what connection moment came from that mistake is what we like to talk about here in All Ears English.

是的。

Yes.

好的，Aubrey，关于这个“固定型思维”的概念，我们还需要了解什么呢？

Okay, Aubrey, what else do we need to know about this concept of the fix?

有

There

这篇文章里有一个特别有意思的部分，它提到我们在语言学习中所认为的“天赋”，其实并不是天赋，而是经验。

was a really interesting part of this article that was talking about how what we think of as talent when it comes to language learning is not actually talent, it's experience.

我觉得这点特别有意思，对吧？

So this I found really interesting, right?

所以，如果你之前接触过目标语言，或者学习过任何语言，是的，所有这些经历都会让你产生一种自己天生就擅长某件事、有天赋的感觉。

So if you have any previous exposure to a target language or to learning any kind of language, yes, any of that is creating this feeling of being innately good at something, of having talent for something.

其实更多是因为你接触过它，有过相关的经验。

It's really more about being exposed to it, having any kind of experience with it.

所以我们就有这种经验。

So we have that experience.

我们有一定的结构，还有一点背景知识，这能帮我们更好地掌握同一语言里的新内容，从而形成自信的正向循环。

We have a structure, a little bit of structure, a little bit of context, which helps us grab on to new things within that same language and then feeds that confidence loop.

没错。

Exactly.

所以如果你已经在学第二语言，然后现在学第三门，你应该会感到很有信心，对吧？

So if you're already learning a second language and then you're learning a third one, you should be feeling that confident, right?

你已经具备了学习语言所需的技能，不是因为你天生就有这种天赋，而是因为你一直在积累这种经验。

You have built the skills needed for language learning, not because you have this innate talent for it, but because you have been creating this experience.

你一直在学习这些技能。

You have been learning these skills.

哇。

Wow.

真有意思。

So interesting.

真有意思。

So interesting.

而且……

And...

我觉得，想想成年人学语言和孩子学语言的方式挺有意思的，虽然这和今天的话题有点不同。

I mean, it's interesting to think about the way that adults learn languages versus kids, which is a slightly different topic than today.

但你可以看到，一个学过多种语言的成年人知道怎么学习，知道怎么去学。

But you can see that an adult coming in that's learned multiple languages knows how to learn, knowing how to learn.

他们有学习的框架。

Has the frameworks.

好的。

Okay.

动词放哪里？

Where do the verb go?

这是什么？

What is this?

而孩子呢，就真的是……

Whereas a kid, it's just literally just...

一开始就是咿呀学语。

It's babble at first.

开始看到

Starting see

他们听到的东西。

what they've heard.

对，就像我儿子现在四个月大，我们开始做那种所谓的“一来一回”互动，对吧？

Yeah, like my son now is four months old and we're starting to do like a serve and return as they call it, right?

就像来回配合一样。

Like a back together.

比如他说一句，我回一句，对吧？

Like he'll say and I'll say, right?

而且看着他想交流的样子，真的特别有意思。

And it's just super interesting to see he wants to communicate.

我也不知道。

And I don't know.

这又是另一期节目的话题了。

That's a that's a different episode for another day.

这真的很有意思，因为确实，在学习的过程中，你投入了很多时间，对吧？

That's really interesting because yeah, there's so many things that as you're learning, you're putting in hours, right?

你付出了这么多努力，不是白费的。

You're investing all of this effort and it's not for nothing.

不管你是否觉得自己天生就是学语言的料，你都在获得这些优势，这些技能不一定是天生的，而是学来的。

Whether you've thought of yourself as a naturally talented language learner or not, you are gaining all of these advantages, these skills that aren't necessarily innate, they're learned.

任何人都能学会。

Anyone can learn them.

对。

Yes.

而且再次提醒一下，语言学习不仅仅是单一的技能或天赋。

And again, keep in mind, language learning isn't just one skill or talent.

它实际上是很多不同东西的组合。

It's actually a combination of a lot of different things.

我甚至想在这个清单上再加一点，对吧？

I would even add to this list, right?

所以，这包括记住词汇。

So it's remembering vocab.

理解语法。

It's understanding grammar.

还有发音、阅读、听力。

It's pronunciation, reading, listening.

还有什么呢，Aubrey？

What else is it, Aubrey?

对话、捕捉上下文线索、理解语言中的文化细微差别。

Conversation, picking up context clues, understanding the cultural nuances of language.

这些都是你在学习语言过程中掌握的独立技能。

These are all individual skills that you're learning as you learn languages.

所以，即使想想你比那些从未尝试学习第二语言的人多出的优势，你所积累的各种技能真是令人惊叹。

So even if think about the advantage you have over anyone who's never tried to learn a second language, it's amazing all of the different skills that you have built.

我还要补充一点，还包括捕捉社交暗示。

And I would also add to that list, it's also picking up social cues.

所以这是社交技能。

So it's social social skills.

这是同理心。

It's empathy.

这不仅仅是理解别人说的话，而是理解更多的东西。

It's sort of like understanding so much more than just the words that someone's saying.

对，

Exactly

就是那些话语和短语背后的含义。

the implication of those words and phrases.

你需要掌握所有这些社交线索，才能知道该多随意、多半正式或多正式，对吧？

You need to have all of those social cues in order to know how informal to be, how semi formal or formal to be, right?

就是你说话的语气和用词。

The register of what you're saying.

所以如果你说自己不擅长语言，我的意思是，我刚才就说了我不擅长法语，现在我觉得这么说有点不好意思。

So if you are saying I'm bad at languages, I mean, I just said I'm bad at French, which now I feel bad about saying that.

我们有没有说服你改变想法，Lindsay？

Have we talked you out of it, Lindsay?

再仔细看看。

Look a little closer.

等我们今天录完音，我得再仔细看看，想想这想法是从哪儿来的。

I will need to look a little closer after we finish recording today and see, you know, where is that coming from?

这说法太简单化了，对吧？

It's an oversimplification, right?

对，有强项有弱项很正常，有些事情就是比另一些更难。

Yeah, it's normal to have strengths and weaknesses for something to be a little more difficult than something else.

但我觉得问题在于我们的心态。

But I think the mistake is it depends on our mindset.

我们是不是觉得自己就是学不好，然后把自己封闭起来，不去利用已经学会的那些可以继续提升的技能？

Are we feeling like I'm just not good at this and closing ourselves off to all of the skills we've already learned that we can build on?

因为通过练习和时间，你可以不断提高任何语言的那些具体技能。

Because you can continue to improve those specific skills with practice and time of any language.

是的。

Yes.

想到固定型思维和成长型思维，以及我们可能如何……这真的很让人振奋。

This is so empowering to think about the fixed versus the growth mindset and how we can probably...

我们可以选择拥有成长型思维。

We can choose to have a growth mindset.

我们并不是天生就有固定型思维或成长型思维。

It's not like we're born with a fixed mindset or born with a growth mindset.

也许我们的父母教会了我们某些处世方式，但一旦我们了解了这些差异，我们就可以改变它们。

Mean, maybe our parents taught us certain ways of being in the world, but we can override those once we know about these differences.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

如果你在听，如果你有点陷入了固定型思维，这也许对你是个很好的提醒，也许我只需要改变我的思维方式，不要再自己阻碍自己，就像我们说的那样。

And if you out there, if you have kind of slid into that fixed mindset and this maybe is a great reminder for you, maybe I just need to switch up my mindset and stop getting in my own way as we say, This

这正是我需要的一期节目，Aubrey。

is the episode I needed, Aubrey.

这太棒了。

This is great.

我喜欢这个。

I love that.

好的。

Alright.

好的。

Alright.

好内容，各位。

Good stuff, guys.

去听听商业英语播客的第六百三十一期吧。

Go check out episode six thirty one of the Business English podcast right here.

如何以及何时用英语讨论薪资。

How and when to discuss salary in English.

另一个好话题。

Another good topic.

很棒，对吧？

Awesome, right?

而且你随时可以改变你的心态。

And you can always change your mindset.

我觉得这是这里一个很好的收获，对吧？

I think that's a great takeaway here, right?

这不是一成不变的。

It's not set in stone.

你可以决定你的心态会是什么样的。

You can decide what your mindset will be like.

你知道，即使你觉得自己没有语言天赋，或者因为觉得自己的语言水平停滞不前而感到沮丧，你仍然可以取得很大的进步。

You know, even if you don't feel like you have a knack of language or if you've gotten frustrated feeling like your language has plateaued, you can still make serious progress.

我很期待，是的。

I'm excited for, yeah.

好东西。

Good stuff.

好的。

Alright.

太好了，Aubrey。

Great, Aubrey.

谢谢你今天来。

Thanks for being here today.

我们很快会在商务英语播客里再见。

We'll see you back here in the Business English podcast very soon.

好吗？

Alright?

太棒了。

Awesome.

谢谢你，Lindsay。

Thanks, Lindsay.

下次见。

See you next time.

再见。

Bye.

再见。

Bye.

感谢收听《商务英语》，这是一档专为你——追求卓越的全球职场人士——打造的播客。

Thank you for listening to Business English, a podcast just for you, the high achieving global professional.

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Remember, we believe in connection, not perfection when it comes to learning English.

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