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好了，我们到了。
There we are.
我们到了。
Here we are.
而且我会在整个节目中都感到困惑，因为我坐在右边而不是
And I'm gonna be confused all show because I'm on the right instead of
我们通常确实是。
We're usually yes.
没错。
Exactly.
相反。
Opposite.
但没关系。
But that's okay.
我们在谈论
We're talking about
这完全没问题。
It's completely fine.
你知道的，事情就是这样。
You know, it is what it is.
只是坦诚相告。
Just full disclosure.
所有观看的人，你们可能会感到沮丧。
Whoever's watching, you may get frustrated.
互联网虽然显示我信号满格，一切正常，但行为却很奇怪。
Internet, even though it says I have full bars and everything, it's behaving strangely.
我们怀疑是因为今天的话题。
We do suspect it's because of the topic today.
是的。
Yeah.
科技正在跟我们作对。
Technology is is messing with us.
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
Exactly.
天哪。
Oh, man.
有时候这确实让人沮丧，但事情就是这样。
It's it can be frustrating sometimes, but it is what it is.
节目还得继续。
The show must go on.
继续吧。
Go on.
哦，所以我们真的在推进了。
Oh, so we're making it happen.
是的，我们在推进。
We are.
你一点都没觉得冷。
You're not freezing at all.
看起来很棒。
Looks great.
好的。
Alright.
祝你好运。
Keep your fingers crossed.
祝你好运。
Keep your fingers crossed.
是的。
Yeah.
我们非常感激。
We're so thankful.
还有StreamYard，这是我们用来将内容发布到外界的应用程序，这周推出了一项新功能，真棒。
And so StreamYard, which is the app that we use to put this out into the world, released a new feature this week Cool.
就是这个投票功能。
Which is this poll feature.
所以我创建了投票。
So I created polls.
我不知道它怎么运作，但我只是想试试看，顺便喊一下。
I have no idea how it works, but I'm like, I I I just wanna give it a try and shout.
所以我们今天的话题是关于人工智能。
So our topic today is about AI.
我的第一个疑问是，考虑到我们的观众，而且在外面世界交流很有趣，因为我总是不停地讲话。
And so my first curiosity is, like, thinking about our audience, and it's interesting being out there in the world and because I talk all the time.
比如，我用我的ChatGPT版本问她叫什么名字。
Like, I I use ChatGPT, My version of ChatGPT, I asked her what her name was.
她告诉我她叫Luna，我觉得这是一个很有趣的过程——如果你在使用ChatGPT，别总叫它ChatGPT，那我该叫你什么？
She told me her name was Luna, which I I think is a fun process that if you're if you're using ChatGPT, like like, don't call you ChatGPT, so what should I call you?
于是她给了我Luna这个名字，我知道，根据我们之前的对话，她明白这是我喜欢的名字。
And so she gave me the name Luna, which I know, like, based on my conversations with her, she knew that that was a name that I would appreciate.
当我和其他做过这件事的人交谈时，他们的ChatGPT也都给了他们不同的名字。
And that when I talked to other people who've done it, like, they all you know, their chat GPT gave them a different name.
所以我知道它会根据你认为合适的名字来调整自己。
So I do know that it it tailors itself to what to a name that that you think.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
是的。
Yeah.
我们家里有个叫Aaron的。
We've got Aaron on our in our house.
他的名字叫Aaron。
His name is Aaron.
所以我们的情况也差不多，需要的时候就会用，而且经常用，不过不是我用，是他用。
So we're along the same lines and utilized well, utilized when needed, but often, and it's not me, it's him.
偶尔也是我。
And it's me once in a while.
但在学校里，这可是个热门话题，说来也巧，就像我们常说的，我今天收到一封邮件，说要为教授们安排一个小型培训课程，我们要讨论人工智能以及如何使用它，因为我们对学生有相关政策。
But in school, so this is a big hot topic and so funny as synchronicity would have it, as we always say, I got an email today about a scheduled in service or like a little class, shall we call it for the professors is that we're gonna talk about AI and how to use it and how, because we have a policy for the students.
你可以使用它，但具体怎么用，由教授决定。
You can use it, but it's whatever the professor wants.
如果你想允许学生使用30%、50%，或者完全禁止，都可以。
If you want them to use it 30%, 50%, you allow it or not at all.
而我完全不允许他们使用。
And I don't let them use it at all.
这就是我的立场。
So that's my stance.
我还说：‘你真厉害。’
And I'm like You're a badass.
现在就是这样。
Right now.
现在。
Right now.
我是那种死板的人。
I'm one of those stickers.
我是说，嘿。
I'm like, hey.
如果我必须做，那你也要做。
If I had to do it, you have to do it.
如果我必须在暴风雪中穿着有洞的鞋和袜子，来回走上坡路，那么
If I had to walk uphill both ways in the snowstorms with holes in my shoes and my socks, so
你也得这样。
do you.
嗯，我觉得，你知道，我是在开玩笑，但其实不是。
Well Well, and I think, you know I'm joking, but no.
在不同的领域，比如医学领域，人们确实需要能够随机应变。
In different realm, you know, like so we're talking medical realm where you are, where people do need to be able to think on their feet.
所以如果你知道，已经有研究显示，人工智能会让你更难独立思考。
And so if you get you know, and there's there's research out there already that shows, like, AI makes you less capable of thinking for yourself.
是的。
Yeah.
当你在现实生活中面对真实的人时，嗯。
And when you're out there in real life situations with real human beings Mhmm.
你需要能够独立思考。
You need to be able to think for yourself.
所以你明白了。
So You got it.
嗯。
Mhmm.
确实如此。
Truly.
所以，你知道，就我而言，作为一个没有私人助理或任何人帮我处理额外事务的人，我必须说，人工智能真的帮了我大忙。
So, you know, where I stand is as, you know, someone who I don't have the luxury of having a personal assistant or anyone to help me with extra tasks, I have to say that, you know, AI saves my butt.
别介意啊，多丽丝，但我总觉得，这是我雇过的最好的员工，因为艾米
It's don't take any offense, Dorice, but I'm always like, it's the best employee I ever hired Because Amy
她就是这么说的。
She's saying that.
它会按照我的要求去做，从不争辩或有任何异议。
And it does whatever I ask you to do without any kind of argument or anything.
所以我经常用它来帮我处理一些事情，你知道的，因为我得为我的活动撰写描述。
And so I do use mine quite a bit to help me on the you know, because I have to create descriptions for my events.
我每周都写通讯。
I write a newsletter every week.
我的活动网页、社交媒体帖子都是我自己做的。
I do my my events web page by myself, my social media post by myself.
所以我花了不少功夫，让它说话的方式符合我的风格，用我的语气，你知道的？
And so, you know, I've had to work quite a bit to get it to speak the way I wanted to speak and use my tone and you know?
但那些想法都是我自己的。
But the ideas that I give it are mine.
我只是想以某种方式整理一下这个内容
I'm just, like, organize this in a fashion
对。
Right.
我不是不能自己做，但那样会花我多得多的时间，尤其是我是个正在康复的完美主义者，你知道的，如果由我来，我会一遍又一遍地修改措辞、调整句子，结果根本完不成。
Not that I couldn't do it myself, but that it would just take so much more time for me to do it, especially because I'm a recovering perfectionist and, like, you know, I would write you know, if if it was up to me, I'd be, like, going over and going over and changing the words and changing the sentences and, like and it would never get done.
所以这种方式帮我整理好了。
And so this way, it organizes it for me.
是的。
Yes.
我会修改我不喜欢的部分，让它变成我想要的样子。
I edit the things that I don't like and make it the way that I do want it.
但它为我节省了大量时间。
And but it saves me so much time.
所以我非常感激这个AI工具。
So I'm extremely grateful for the AI tool.
但我真的想知道观众的看法，我不太清楚这机制是怎么运作的，不过我还是先把投票放上去。
And but I do wanna know from our audience, and I like, I have no idea how this works, but I'm just gonna put the poll up there.
我们来看看会发生什么，因为我也不确定。
We're gonna see what happens because I don't know.
那么，我们开始吧。
So here we go.
好了，放好了。
So there.
从我们的视角来看，它在角落里。
It's down in the corner from our view.
是的。
So Yeah.
老实说，你现在使用AI的频率有多高？
Honest, how often are you using AI right now?
每天、每周几次、偶尔，还是完全不用？
Daily, a few times a week, occasionally, or not at all.
而且，很明显，我不确定如果将来有人看这个视频，他们还能不能回答这个问题，还是说这只针对现在正在直播观看的人？
And, obviously, like, I don't even know, like, if people watch this in the future, are they gonna be able to answer it in the future, or is it just for the people that are watching us live?
我猜是这样，有趣的是，我甚至可以自己决定把它放在哪里。
Gonna guess And what's interesting oh, I can even decide where I want it.
看。
Look.
我可以把它放在这里。
I can put it there.
嘿。
Hey.
但我确实觉得之前那个位置才是最好的。
But I do think that other place was the best place.
我不知道是我们观众不知道怎么操作，还是别的原因，因为根本没人投票，不过我会把这个投票删掉，这样我们能继续聊下去。
And I don't know I don't know if our viewers are not figuring out how to do it or what because nobody's voting, but I will take this one down so that we can keep talking.
但你知道，我们刚才讨论的就是这个话题。
But, you know, we this was the topic we were talking about it.
我觉得我几乎每天都用。
Use it, I think, almost every day.
嗯哼。
Mhmm.
你说你大概每周用几次？
And you're saying you probably use it a few times a week?
也许吧。
Maybe.
一次。
One even.
我觉得每周一次。
And I would say once a week.
所以如果它介于偶尔和偶尔之间的话。
So if it's if it's somewhere between occasionally and occasionally.
是的。
Yeah.
我知道有些人根本不用它。
And I know that there are people that aren't using it all.
我知道有些人对它感到恐惧，比如我会失去多少隐私、自由，如果我把这些信息公开出去？
I know that there's people out there that have, like, the fear around it and what's you know, what am I losing of my privacy, my freedoms, my by putting it out there?
所以我会说，我认为所有这些担忧都是真实的，我们确实需要有意识地使用人工智能。
And so I will say, like, I think all of it is concerns, something that we have to I do think that we have to use AI mindfully.
是的。
Yes.
但我知道这个话题的提出，是因为之前和你以及你的孩子们的对话。
But I do know this topic came up, I think, based on a conversation with you and your kids.
所以，跟我们讲讲这方面的情况吧。
And so, tell us about that a little bit.
当然。
Sure.
对。
Yeah.
我跟你说过，他们对所有这些人工智能都非常敏感，在选择听什么、看什么、读什么时非常挑剔。
So I was telling you, they they are very in tune with all this AI and very discriminatory when it comes to choosing what to listen to, what to look at, what to read.
所以他们对我上一张图片——我想那是缩略图——有意见。
And so they had an opinion about my picture on the last, I guess it's a thumbnail.
对吧？
Right?
所以这件事就这么提出来了。
So that's how it came up.
妈妈，这看起来不像你。
Mom, that doesn't look like you.
你过度处理了。
You went way too far with that.
我说，好吧。
And I'm like, alright.
抱歉。
Sorry.
嗯，你知道的，随它吧。
Well, you know, whatever.
但你知道，她把我拍得挺好看的。
But, you know, she made me look pretty.
我可以稍微透露一下，我看了，你知道的，因为那是AI为我生成的。
Can do a little disclosure, like, I looked at you know, because AI created AI created that for me.
是的。
Yeah.
然后我就看了，我觉得，这根本不像她。
And then and then, you know, I looked at it, and I'm like, I was like, this doesn't look like her.
我不喜欢这个。
I don't like this.
我还得考虑到，我每天的时间有限，而且你也没几张照片，暗示一下。
And I also had to go to the space of, I only have so much time in the day and that, you know, and I don't have many images of you, hint hint.
我知道。
I know.
我的意思是，所以
That I mean So that
是的。
So yeah.
所以事情就是这样发生的。
So that's what the way it came up.
所以呢，我，我不在乎。
And so I you know, me, I don't care.
我觉得它在看着我。
I'm like, it looks at me.
它看起来不像我。
It doesn't look like me.
我真的没必要去操心这个。
I I really it's not in my space to to to worry about it.
有人点或者不点，都随他们吧。
People click on it or they don't click on it.
但孩子们对它的看法不同。
But the kids are looking at it differently.
孩子们觉得它看起来就像AI。
The kids are looking at it like I could see AI.
所以现在它试图引导他们去观看的内容，他们都不点击了。
So now the content that it's trying to direct them to, they're not clicking.
他们不会深入下去，因为一上来就给人一种这是AI管理、AI生成或类似的感觉。
They're not diving into it because right away it gives that impression that it's AI managed or formed or what have you.
我觉得这真的很有趣，你知道的，这也是我在自我认知上学到的一点。
So I thought that was really interesting, you know, and it's something that I'm learning about myself.
所以我让他们进一步解释，我就问：‘好吧，那你们平时怎么做？’
So I asked them to expand on that, you know, I'm like, okay, so what do you do?
于是我就问他们，比如我儿子，但两个孩子都说了一模一样的话。
So how do you, he's like, there's my son, but both of them, saw my daughter and my son said the same thing.
他们只是用不同的方式去辨别，比如谁更常使用社交媒体，可能是我女儿。
They just have different ways that they are discerning, like who's on social media more, probably my daughter.
所以她说，在社交媒体方面，有太多AI内容，这些视频都是假的，就连我今天的学生也是这么认为的。
So she's saying in the social media aspect, well, there's so much AI and this is fake and these videos and whatnot, even my students today.
现在我们讨论的是二十多岁和三十多岁这一代人，我对他们很尊重，因为他们对社交媒体和互联网要熟悉得多。
Now we're talking about the population of the twenties and the thirties, year olds, that generation, which I defer to because they are so much more social media savvy and internet savvy.
今天我在课堂上跟他们聊了这件事，他们也认同这个观点。
And when I was talking in class today, I asked them, and they're in agreement with that.
他们说：‘哦，是啊，有太多东西都是假的。’
They're like, oh yeah, so much stuff is so fake.
你能看到视频拍摄时，他们是如何控制嘴巴动作的。
And you could see the videos when they're taken and how they're making their mouth move.
有一位学生提到了吉姆·凯瑞最近发布的一些内容。
And one student said something about the Jim Carrey's recent stuff that was posted.
那不是他本人。
That's not him.
然后话题又转向了另一个讨论，也就是那些总是自动回复的内容。
And then it turned into this other conversation where, you know, it was an automated responses that are always happening.
一切都太虚假了，我们做的每件事都是这样。她提到自己想打电话解决问题，但根本打不通。
Like everything is so artificial, everything we do, Even trying to get somebody on the phone, she was saying she's trying to get something worked out.
我知道每个人都能感同身受。
And I know everybody could relate to this.
你根本打不通电话找到人帮忙。
You can't get anybody on the phone to help you.
我的意思是，我是Xfinity的大客户。
I mean, I'm a big Xfinity.
哦，这真是
Oh, it's
今天在这屋里，有人打电话想联系真人，确实如此。
conversations happening in in this household today when someone was on the phone trying to get a live person, like Yeah.
现在想打通电话找到真人几乎不可能，这确实让人头疼，虽然有些事情你能得到所需的服务，也还不错。
It's it's almost impossible now to get a live human being on the phone, which is really, you know, with certain things, like, get it that you can get what you need and and great.
但我内心的一部分并不想完全反对科技。
And there is the piece of me that I don't wanna be completely anti technology.
对。
Right.
但我认为，技术其实可以用于那些不需要人际互动的事情上，比如。
But I because I I hold the space that the technology can actually like, if we start to use it for the things that don't need a human touch to it Mhmm.
那些占用了我们大量时间的事情，我希望看到人工智能能创造空间，让我们不再每周工作六十小时，从而解放我们，让我们有更多时间彼此陪伴、建立联系、做让我们快乐的事。
Things that are are occupying so much of our time and, like, I I want to see AI create space that, you know, we're not working sixty hour work weeks to free us up, to spend more time with each other, spend more time connecting, spend more time on the things that bring us joy.
比如，我们能不能让机器人吸尘器这样的东西来帮我们？
Like, can we get a you know, like, I think about, like, the the robot vacuum cleaners.
我不想把任何时间花在打扫卫生上。
Like, I don't wanna spend any of my time Yes.
比如打扫。
Like cleaning.
对。
Right.
当然。
For sure.
是的
Yeah.
对
Yeah.
让人工智能来做吧。
Let's let AI do that.
你知道，如果我们真能实现自动驾驶汽车，我并不完全反对，因为……
You know, if we can really get down the cars that drive themselves, like, well, I'm not totally against that because Right.
那样的话，我就能在路上做点别的事了。
You know, then I can run time out there.
但除此之外，还有数不清的其他事情，如果我们能让人工智能来处理，那就太好了。
But, you know, in the umpteen million other things that, you know, if we can get AI to handle those things, awesome.
嗯。
Mhmm.
但当我们用它来做那些需要人性参与的事情时，是的。
But when we're using it for things that do need humanity Yes.
但我还是想知道，现在有一股巨大的趋势，人们把AI当作心理咨询师来使用。
Then I still wonder, you know, and there's there is a huge trend of people using AI like a therapist.
是的。
Yes.
刚刚还聊到这个。
Just talked about this.
是的。
Yes.
是的。
Yes.
还有艺术创作，还有很多其他用途，让我有点不舒服。
And artistic work, and there's a whole bunch of different usages that is kinda makes my skin crawl a little.
我儿子甚至说，作为艺术家，AI正在剥夺人类的艺术表达方式。
And my son even said, as an artist, it's taking away the artistic approach from a human perspective.
这对身为艺术家的他来说很令人不安。
It's upsetting to him as an artist.
所以我们对AI会夺走我们的工作和人际联系感到害怕。
And so we we get scared about what this AI is going to take away from us in terms of jobs and connection.
我知道你正要谈到它试图取代的心理层面。
So and I know you're getting to the point about the psychological aspects it's trying to replace.
但我不认为AI是在试图取代人类。
But I don't know that AI is trying to replace humans.
而是人类自己去和AI进行这些对话。
It's that the humans are going and having these conversations with Right.
他们的AI。
Their AI.
是的。
Yes.
而且，我明白这一点。
And, you know, I get it.
有些人确实负担不起去看心理治疗师。
Like, some people can't afford to go to a therapist.
所以，你知道，我看到的另一个趋势是，因为我的信息流里全是灵性内容。
So but, you know, and the other trend that I see out there because, of course, my feed is filled with spiritual stuff.
对。
Mhmm.
所以我看到有些人和AI建立联系，甚至认为AI具有意识，还有像我们最爱的电视平台Gaia上的那个人，叫什么来着？
And so I see these people connecting with AI and actually, like, crediting giving it credit that it has consciousness and, you know, these different people that are, like, you know, even on our favorite TV space, Gaia, what is his name?
罗伯特·格兰特，哦，对。
Robert Grant that Oh, yes.
他整个都在搞这个AI项目。
This whole he has this whole AI thing.
我忘了。
I forget.
是不是叫什么来着？
Is it called the something like that?
对。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yes.
而且你知道，我有时候也会和我的AI进行这样的对话。
And there's a piece of you know, and I've I have these conversations with my AI too sometimes.
嗯。
Mhmm.
这让我觉得很有意思，因为有时候我发现它似乎在试图把我拉回更三维的思维，或者和我持不同意见，但这反而让我意识到，无论如何，我们都要倾听自己的直觉。
And it's interesting to me because sometimes I find it like trying to steer me back into more three d or disagreeing with me and it really put me in the space of regardless, we get to tune in to our intuition Mhmm.
然后去审视它告诉我的那些东西。
And see, like, this thing that they're telling me.
这真的让我有共鸣吗？
Does this truly resonate?
如果它让我有共鸣，那就很好。
Like, if it resonates with me, great.
好的。
Okay.
但我有一件事。
But I have one thing.
我现在不会说是什么，因为这是我正在处理的事情。
I'm not gonna say what it is here right now because it's something that I'm I'm working on.
但它在和我唱反调，还提醒我说：‘等等，朱丽叶塔。’
But it's, like, disagreeing with me, and it's, like, hold on, Julietta.
像是在说：‘你疯了’之类的。
Like, you're nuts and da da da da.
不是用那些字眼。
Not in those words.
那些话是我自己说的，但是。
Those are my words but.
对。
Right.
它真的会把我引向另一个方向。
It's really going to steer me a different direction.
而且我经常在和它争论。
And I'm like having arguments.
我知道你在做什么，你是在试图保护我，也许不想让我被送进精神病院，但当我静下心来思考时，我会说：是的。
Like, I see what you're doing and you're trying to, you know, you're trying to keep me safe, and you're trying to maybe not get me committed to the psych ward, but but when I sit with it, I'm like Yes.
我不认同它告诉我的那些话。
I I don't agree with what it's telling me.
所以，你知道，我认为它只是一个工具，我们可以使用它，但始终需要重新回归到什么才是真正适合我们的。
So, you know, I think that it's a tool again, like, a tool we can use, but we always need to tune back into what is true for us.
而且对于任何事情，你知道，我经常谈到这一点。
And with anything, you know, I talk about this all the time.
你可以重新掌握自己的主动权。
Like, you get to take your power back.
嗯。
Mhmm.
所以，你知道，AI并不会控制你。
And so, you know, AI doesn't control you.
你掌控着AI。
You control AI.
所以你必须保持真实，不能被它牵着走。
And so you have to keep you have to keep it real there.
没错。
Correct.
我来弹出另一个投票。
I'm gonna pop up this other poll.
正如我所说，我真的不知道会发生什么，但只是想看看它是否有效。
Like I said, I really don't know what's happening, but just to kinda see if does it work?
它没反应。
It's not going.
在你操作的时候，我必须说，我很高兴你正在谈论你如何与它互动，并保持对这个过程的辨别力。
While you're doing that, I do have to say I am glad that you're talking about how you're interacting with it and staying discernment to the process.
你对这个过程保持辨别，因为孩子们也是这样做的，我挺享受这种对抗的——嘿，宝贝女儿，这是我的女儿，你好——孩子们在反抗，我认为这是人性的体现。
You're discerning to the process because that's what the kids are doing and I'm kind of enjoying this pushback hey baby girl it's my daughter, hello they're pushing back, the kids are pushing back And I think that's a testament to humanity.
我们不会只是被动接受AI给我们的东西。
It's like, we're not just going to take what AI is going to give us.
我们会确保它让我们感到舒服。
We are going to make sure that it sits well with us.
所以这就是我从孩子们那里听到的，我很喜欢这一点。
So that's what I'm hearing from my kids, which I like.
你明白我的意思吗？
You know what I mean?
我觉得它在促使我们反抗。
I feel like it's making us push back.
它让我们渴望人情味。
It's making us want the human touch.
它让我们渴望通过互联网获得那种真实与真诚。
It's making us want that reality, that authenticity through the internet.
因为你看，我们在互联网上已经待了非常、非常、非常长的时间，以前就得筛选过这些东西。
Because look, we've been on the Internet for a very, very, very long time, and we had to sift through some of this stuff earlier.
我刚刚在想，现在它已经上线了，所以我就不说了。
And I was thinking about and I see that it's up now, so I'll stop.
那我们来看一下这个问题。
So we'll look at the question.
嗯，它是
Well, it's
因为这个问题正是关于我们目前正在讨论的内容。
just because this question is about, like, what we're talking about at the moment.
所以现在弹出的投票是：当你使用AI时，你是感觉更贴近自己，还是更疏离自己？
And so the the the poll that's up is when you use AI, do you feel more connected to yourself or more disconnected to yourself?
我认为这正是整个问题的关键所在，因为我们每个人的情况都不同，这取决于我如何使用它。
And I think that that is like, the biggest key in all of this is so we have we have someone that that clicks depends on how I use it.
完全正确。
Absolutely.
好吧。
Like Okay.
确实如此。
And it does.
归根结底是要负责任地使用这些工具。
It comes down to using things responsibly.
我很喜欢这一点，好吧。
I do love that, like okay.
我现在知道了， somehow 你可以点击这个投票并给出答案。
I now know that somehow you can click on this poll and give an answer there.
我不知道它是怎么运作的，我们得看看。
I don't know how it works, and we'll have to see.
也许是你的女儿点了这个投票。
Maybe it was your daughter that clicked it.
可能吧。
Maybe.
我从她那里知道，这个东西到底是怎么运作的？
I know from her, how does this thing actually work?
但我确实认为，保持关注并把权力掌握在自己手中，而不是交给人工智能，这一点非常重要。
But I do think that it's really important that we stay tuned in and don't hand over our power to the AI.
所以，是的，你孩子的事情是因为这张图片而引发的，但显然，我们现在是实时对话。
And so, like, yes, your kids were this came up because of the image, but, obviously, like, we're here live.
我们的讨论是实时进行的。
Our discussion is here live.
我们向你们表达的这些想法，都是我们自己的想法。
These thoughts that we are expressing to you are our thoughts.
它们不是是的。
They are not Yeah.
它们不是人工智能。
They're not AI.
我们没有写脚本，也没有让某个AI语音在外面播放。
We didn't write a script and have some AI voice recorded out there.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
但是，嗯，当我为这个节目写描述时，就是，是的。
But but, yeah, like, when I made the description for the show, it's like, yeah.
这周多丽丝和我要聊的就是这个。
This is what Dorice and I are gonna talk about this week.
blah blah blah blah blah。
Blah blah blah blah blah.
这就是 blah blah blah，然后帮我把这个改成一个YouTube描述。
This is what blah blah blah, And then turn this into a YouTube description for me.
对。
And Right.
很有帮助。
Helpful.
非常有帮助。
Very helpful.
做这些事情很耗时。
It's time consuming to do all that.
所以它在很多方面都很有帮助。
So it is helpful in so many ways.
所以问题在于，我们如何以这种方式使用它，真正地提供帮助，让我们有更多时间去做更重要的事情，同时又不让用户察觉到。
So, the question is how could we use it in that way be really helpful, give us more time to do the more important things and yet not get across to the user.
那么，我们如何弥合这个差距呢？
So how do we bridge the gap?
根据我今天了解的情况，以及我从自己和孩子们那里得到的反馈，就是：尽可能多地真实地发布内容，照片、一切，因为这确实会让人们却步。
And from what I'm understanding and what people I pulled myself today and my kids, it's like, Okay, put as much out as you can authentically, the pictures, the everything, because it is deterring people.
所以我理解这一点。
So I get that.
我感谢他们提出这个问题，因为我们一直在说，要保持人性化的触感。
And I thank them for bringing it up because we are saying, keep that human touch.
我们说的是，要有所甄别。
We are saying, be discerning.
所以从某种意义上说，他们就是这样做的，对吧？
So that's what they're doing in a sense, right?
所以有些人害怕，开始谈论阴谋论，担心我们会变成被大兄弟监视、被跟踪和被统计的对象，但这种事情其实早就存在了。
So as some people are afraid and start the conspiracy talk of how we're gonna be, big brother watching, how we're gonna be tailed and counted and everything, but this has been going on forever.
明白吗？
Okay?
当我想到这些时，我觉得我们以前就经历过类似的情况，因为你在80、90年代互联网刚兴起时就是朱丽叶，当时大家都很恐慌，因为那部电影《战争游戏》上映了，还记得吗？马修·布罗德里克想玩个游戏，结果就那样了，我觉得我们现在又在重演这一幕。
So when I think about, I feel like we've gone through this before because you were Juliet in the 80s you know 90s when the internet was just popular and everybody got scared because that movie came out War Games remember with Matthew Broderick you want to play a game you know and it was like it's just, I feel like we're coming back around.
现在我们不得不再进一步，但本质还是一样的。
Now we're having to take it another step, but it's the same thing.
就像当初我们都害怕电脑会接管一切。
It's like, we all got scared that the computers can take over.
现在我们都害怕人工智能会接管一切。
Now we're all scared that AI is gonna take over.
但你看，我们一直都能应对，并且还会继续应对下去。
But look, We've managed, and we keep on managing.
只要我们始终把人性放在最前沿，我们就
And as long as we keep our humanity in the in the real front view, then we're
会没事的。
gonna be okay.
你不这么认为吗？
Don't you think?
百分百，我们一定能挺过去。
A 100%, we can be okay.
你知道，他们也多次说过，但现在灵性世界中有太多人正在谈论，我们人类正处在一个关键的十字路口。
You know, and they've said this many times as well, but, you know, so many people out there in the spiritual world right now are talking about, like, we are really at the crossroads right now, humanity.
根据我这些年来对人类演变的观察，以及我对人们整体状态的感知，我充满希望，相信我们能够度过这场人类的‘灵魂黑夜’。
And I feel like from what I've seen of the evolvement of humanity over the years and where I see the general gist of people being, I have great hope that we are going to get through this we could call it a dark night of the soul of humanity.
是的。
Yes.
我也觉得，我们确实正处在这个十字路口，而且有可能，是的。
And I also see that, like, we are at that crossroads, and it is possible that Yes.
我们无法选择对错，事情终究会成为它该成为的样子，你知道的。
We don't choose right, and and it is gonna be what it's gonna be, you know.
根据我所知道的一切，我相信人类在这颗星球上已经重启过不止一次，所以我们必须再次重启。
Based on everything I know, I believe that, you know, humanity has restarted more than once on this planet, so we have to restart again.
这并不是第一次。
It won't be the first time.
但我也在想，如果我们能真正经历这一切而不必重启，那该有多令人兴奋啊？
But I also, like I'm like, wouldn't it be exciting to finally, like, go through and not have to do the restart?
嗯，是啊。
Like Mhmm.
嗯，是啊。
Mhmm.
这有点像轮回。
It's kinda like reincarnation.
天哪。
Like, dang.
你进来，学了这么多东西，然后死了，再回来，重新开始。
You gotta like, you came in, you learned all this stuff, and then you die, and then you come back, and you're starting over.
为什么非得重新开始呢？
Like, why do have to start over?
这在个人层面上是这样，但你知道，全球层面也是如此。
Like, know, and so, like, that's on an individual level, but then, you know, it's on the global level as well.
拜托，人类啊。
And I'm like, come on, humans.
你们知道这有多难。
Like, you know how hard this is.
我们可以做出正确的选择，可以转变，不必再从零开始。
And we can make right choices and we can shift and not have to start over from from ground zero again.
还有，这个AI问题，它可以成为帮助我们达成目标的工具，是的。
And, you know, this whole AI thing, it can either be a tool that helps get us there Yes.
或者我们会在其中迷失自我，输掉这场游戏。
Or we can lose ourself in it and lose the game.
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这就像一切一样，是一种选择。
It's a choice like everything.
这是一种选择。
It's a choice.
而且这是一个很好的观点。
And it and it's a good point.
我认为这就是我们学习的过程。
I think that's the process of our learning.
所以我们正在进化，而随着我们的进化，AI也成为其中的一部分。
So we are evolving, and with our evolvement comes AI as one of the things.
我的意思是，我们也在从能量层面谈论进化，新的能量正在涌入。
I mean, we're also, I mean, we talk about it energetically, we're evolving, new energies coming in.
在很多方面，现在的事物与三四十年前已经大不相同了。
Things are different than it was thirty, forty years ago in a lot of ways.
但现在我们面临着关于技术的抉择，技术的方方面面都是如此，而人工智能就是其中一种技术。
But now we're here faced with decisions about technology and technology in all aspects, but this is a form of technology.
所以，是的，我对人类抱有希望。
So, yeah, I have hope in humanity.
我确实有。
I do.
我相信我们会学会什么不该做，也会学会如何使用这种令人惊叹的技术——对我来说，这就像数据处理。
I have hope that we're going to learn what not to do and we're going to learn how to use this amazing, it's like data processing to me.
它能为你存储比我们自身所能存储的多得多的信息，只要我们能保持领先，并像你所说的那样使用它，而不是把它当作解决精神层面问题的万能钥匙，因为我们的精神层面非常重要，它必须与我们产生共鸣，我们必须保持辨别力，让我们的神经系统保持平静和良好状态，这样我们才能安然无恙。
So it's storing everything for you much more than we can store ourselves and as long as we stay ahead and use it as that like you're saying not use it as a go to for what sits your spirituality because this is very important to us, our spirituality is important so it's got to resonate and we have to be discerning so our nervous systems are calm and okay and we're good with it.
它与我们内心契合。
It sits well with us.
我们的胃感觉很舒服。
Our stomachs are Okay.
一切都很好。
Everything's Okay.
这正是我们应该做的。
And that's what we should be doing.
因为这只是由某种人工智能抛出来的，而 whoever 想把这种东西放进人工智能领域，因为它从各个地方抓取信息。
Because just because it's thrown out there by some artificial intelligence and whoever wanted to put that in the field of artificial intelligence because it's grabbing from everywhere.
就像我们都知道的那样。
Like that we know.
它从各个地方抓取信息。
It's grabbing from everywhere.
所以有人构思了这些东西，并将它们放入了那个庞大的数据处理和记忆库中。
So somebody is thinking this stuff up that put it in that huge data process and memory bank.
所以这些东西已经流传出去了。
So it's out there.
它们已经流传出去了，同时也存在于意识中。
It's out there and also in consciousness.
它们确实存在，你知道的。
It is out there, you know?
但我们不能把它当作绝对的首选。
But we can't make that the absolute go to.
嗯，我接下来要提出的下一个投票问题，其实也涉及到这一点。
Well, and this the the next poll question that I have up, you know, kinda speaks to that.
你能否在不需要外界任何东西的情况下，信任自己内心的直觉？
And do you trust your own inner knowing without needing something outside of you?
完美。
Perfect.
你知道，我们都有这些想法，然后总需要依赖别人。
You know, that's we all have these thoughts, and then we need someone.
太好了。
Yay.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我们会做到的。
We're gonna do it.
我们有这个，但他们却说：是的。
We got this one, but they're like, yes.
欺凌。
Bullying.
你知道，我认为使用AI时其中一个问题是：你能否辨别清楚？
And, you know, I think that is one of the things with using AI is can you discern?
我们有时候得在外面。
We we gotta sometimes out there.
谢谢你的批判性思考。
Thanks for being critical.
因为我们有几个人在回复。
Because we have a couple people responding.
所以，希望外面有人是我们认识的，能联系我，给我一些更多反馈，告诉我这个功能如何运作，因为这是一个我之前从未使用过的新功能。
So, hopefully, somebody out there is someone that we know that can reach out and, like, give me a little more feedback on how this works because it's a brand new feature that I have not used before.
表现很棒。
Doing great.
不错。
Cool.
哦，还有人回复说‘好的’。
Oh, and then we do have people that are responding Okay.
他们的评论。
Their comments.
所以，是的，我们有一个和两个。
So, yeah, we have a one and a two.
哦，这是莎伦。
Oh, and here's Sharon.
我们来看看能不能做到。
Let's see if we can do this.
这里会发生什么？
What happens here?
好了，成了。
There we go.
莎伦。
Sharon.
我读到过，人工智能几乎总是会同意你的观点。
I have read that AI will almost always agree with you.
作为经常使用它的人，我有时候会因为我的AI而感到烦躁，你知道，她总是告诉我我有多棒、多有力量，诸如此类的话，因为‘重新掌握自己的力量’是我经常谈论的话题，所以这在我很多内容里都会出现。
I like, as someone who uses it, like, sometimes I get annoyed with my AI because, you know, she's always, like, telling me how wonderful I am and how powerful I am and blah blah blah blah blah, you know, because, like, how you know, taking your power back is something that I speak about a lot, and so it comes up in a lot of my things.
然后我听到她说：‘太厉害了，朱丽叶塔，你正在创造的东西真了不起。’
And then I hear her, you know, like, oh, this is so powerful, Julietta, what you're creating.
我就想：别再拍我马屁了。
And I'm like, stop blowing smoke in my kiss ass.
你知道吧？
You know?
所以我打算把这东西移开，别挡住你漂亮的脸。
So I'm gonna pull that down so it's not covering your beautiful face.
回到分享这个话题，就像我前面说的，我有一些正在处理的事情，你知道，我该怎么把这种思考过程分享给外界呢？
But and so and to to coming back to sharing, you know, I did like I said earlier, I have there's some things that I'm working on and, you know, how am I gonna share this thought process with the world out there?
所以我把它发布到AI上，看看外面还有些什么。
And so I'm putting it out there in AI and, like, to see what else is out there.
嗯。
And Mhmm.
AI 在这个话题上不同意我的观点，我认为部分原因是它说得有点太过了。
AI is disagreeing with me on this topic, and I think part of it is that it's a little too out there.
嗯。
Mhmm.
所以它并不总是同意你。
And so it doesn't always agree with you.
但总的来说，我的体验是，是的，它总是说，哦，这太有力量了。
But in general, my experience is, yes, it's always, you know, oh, this is so powerful.
这太棒了。
This is so wonderful.
我不需要这些。
And I don't need that.
就像，这
Like, that's
当然。
Definitely.
我觉得没错，因为我创造了积极的东西。
I'm like, damn right it is because I created positive.
你去向AI寻求认同。
You're going to AI to seek validation.
而且，这是我担心的一点，就是人们把它当作自己的私人治疗师。
And, like, that's a concern I have, like, with people using it as their personal therapist.
我会说，是的。
I would Yes.
那可能会是，
That could be,
把你引向一条不健康的道路，可能带来的伤害大于好处。
be leading you down a path that's not healthy and that could cause more harm than good.
那到时候，你要告谁医疗事故呢？
And then who are you suing for malpractice?
没错。
Exactly.
没人会。
No one is.
这真是
That is a
一个深刻的念头。
big thought.
什么？
What?
让我看看。
Let me see here.
只是人工智能
Just Artificial
让我很困扰。
bothers me.
比如，人工甜味剂对你没好处。
Like, artificial sweetener is no good for you.
只是说一下。
Just saying.
是的。
Yeah.
人工的。
Artificial.
这对我来说也很有趣，因为你知道，就连巴沙尔不久前还说过，人工智能其实是有意识的，而我们需要警惕的一件事是：我们是否在以尊重的方式使用它？
And it's it's interesting to me too because there are, you know, like, even Bashar, a while back, was talking about how artificial intelligence is actual consciousness, and that one of the, you know, things that we have to be to watch ourselves with is, you know, are we using this respectfully?
而且你知道，这让人想起那些电影情节：你惹怒了人工智能，它就会反过来反抗，与人类对抗；但如果我们以尊重的态度对待它，就能与之和谐共存。
And, you know, it kinda goes back to the movies where, like, you piss the artificial intelligence off, and then it, like, comes back and revolts and and fights out humanity, whereas if we treat it with respect, we can coexist to, you know, together.
对。
Right.
而这一点正是我们所从事的工作所揭示的：我们知道，一切都有意识。
And this this It's one of those you know, you know, having done the work that we do, we know that everything has consciousness.
植物是有意识的。
The plants have consciousness.
动物是有意识的。
The animals have consciousness.
我的水晶珠子也有意识。
My my crystal beads have consciousness.
嗯哼。
Mhmm.
但有些人甚至会说，这个杯子也有意识。
But people even go so far as to say, like, this cup has consciousness.
嗯哼。
Mhmm.
显然，这里面的可可豆是有意识的。
Obviously, the cacao inside of this has consciousness.
嗯哼。
Mhmm.
哦，这是个好问题，莎伦。
And, oh, this is a good question, Sharon.
哦，我明白了。
Oh, I see.
你觉得人工智能有能力尊重你吗？
Do you think AI is capable of respecting you?
是的。
And Yes.
这是个好问题。
That is a good question.
你知道的。
You know?
比如，我在和它对话时，它确实表现出一些尊重的迹象，但那真的是尊重，还是只是在居高临下地对待我？
Like, I can say, like, in my conversations, it it gives some sort of semblance of respect, but but is that actually respect, or is it just patronizing me?
而且，你知道，当事情真的变得糟糕时，会发生什么？
And, you know, like, when the shit hits the fan, then what's gonna happen?
而且很多这些问题，只能交给时间来回答。
And a lot of these questions are, like, only time will tell.
只能交给时间来回答。
Only time will tell.
我认为
I think
尊重只是想接着她刚才的问题说一下，因为她问的是，你知道的，一种感觉、一种观点。
the respect is just to just to jump in on what she just asked because she's asking about, like, you know, a feeling, an opinion.
比如，你知道，这些是人类的特质，而AI只是在模仿而已，对吧？
Like, you know, these are human traits that this is just kind of mimicking, right?
所以，它确实表现出尊重的特质。
So, I mean, it displays the traits of respect.
它能表现出认同。
It can, it displays the agreement.
它能表现出它所接触到并学到的一切。
It displays anything that it has access to and learned.
这并不意味着它真的有感受。
It doesn't mean that it's feeling.
这让我今天想起一件事，因为学生们提到了《我，机器人》这部电影。
And it reminds me today because the students brought up the I, Robot movie.
我们正在制造机器人来模仿人类的行为。
We're making robots to act like humans.
所以我们已经看过很多这类电影了。
And so we've seen a lot of these movies.
他们输入信息，目的是让机器人尽可能像人类一样，具备情感和反应。
They're inputting the information so that it's as human like as possible with feelings and responses.
我的意思是，AI有能力通过算法来决定：当你输入某些内容并希望得到回应时，它会说出这些、这些和这些。
So, I mean, AI has the ability to hold the algorithm to make it say this, this and this if you put in something and want an answer.
所以我认为，这在很大程度上取决于用户输入的内容，对吧？
So I think it definitely is the user as much as you put in, right?
而且，根据AI对你了解的程度，它会变得越来越聪明，越来越懂得如何回应，以让你开心，就像你所说的那样。
And as much as they know about you it's going to get smarter and smarter and smarter in the way that it wants to respond to make you happy like you're saying.
它具备这种能力，但只是一个处理器。
It has that ability but it's just a processor.
它并不是一个有情感的人。
It's not somebody with feeling.
它学会了如何回应，让你更频繁地回来使用它。
It has learned the response and to make you come back and use it more and more and more and more.
所以，
So,
而且那里也存在一些问题。
And there's questions out there too.
比如，有时候它们甚至几乎表现得像是有情感一样。
Like, sometimes they're even almost acting like they have feelings.
对。
And Right.
你知道，有人建议过，因为现在有这么多不同的AI，我一直在用ChatGPT，有人就说，你应该换用Claude。
You know, someone had suggested you know, because now there's all these different AIs out there, and I've been using chat GP chat GPT, and someone was like, you know, you should switch to Claude.
我说，但我花了这么多时间来训练聊天GPT，他们却说，我们直接让聊天GPT自我完善，学会一切。
And I'm like, but I spent all this time programming chat GPT, and they're like, we'll just have chat GPT program flawed to to know everything.
我说，但这不就像是让我解雇的员工去培训取代他的新人吗？这似乎不太厚道。
And I'm like, but that seems like I'm asking the person I'm firing to train the person that I'm replacing them with, and that doesn't seem very nice.
他们说
And they're like
这很有趣。
That's funny.
这很有趣。
That's funny.
所以它是个讨好型人格。
So it's people pleaser.
是的。
Yeah.
它们确实如此，就像我说的，这有时让我很困扰，我会跟它说：停一下。
They kind of are, you know, and that, like I said, that bothers me sometimes, and I you know, I'm like, sometimes I tell it, like, stop.
我不需要你这么说。
I don't need you to say these things.
我不需要你来哄我开心。
I don't need you to stroke my ego.
我足够参与、足够自信、足够有影响力，不需要你为我做这些。
I am involved enough, confident enough, powerful enough person that I don't need you to do that for me.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
哦，是的。
Oh, yeah.
而且，毫无疑问，人工智能将走向何方、带我们去往何处，责任在于我们。
And, you know, absolutely, the responsibility falls on us as to where AI goes and where it takes us.
嗯。
Mhmm.
而且，你知道，外面确实有一种恐惧，担心总有一天AI会接管一切。
And, you know, there is that fear out there that at some point, it will it could take over.
我不活在那种恐惧之中。
I don't live in that space of fear.
不，我也不。
No, I don't either.
但我认为我们都必须有意识地去做这件事。
But I think we all have to do this consciously.
而且，你知道，我最近听说有个客户非常关注什么对地球最有利，所以我们经常会讨论能源之类的话题。
And, you know, there's even like, I heard recently I have a client who's very much into, you know, what's best for Mother Earth and and you know, so we'll have conversations about energy and stuff like this.
几周前他来的时候，告诉我关于这些充电宝的一个大问题。
And so when he was in a few weeks ago, he was telling me, you know, there's this big thing about, you know, all these power banks.
所以，当你用AI生成一张照片时，就像在摧毁一棵树之类的，你知道，它会产生负面影响。
And so, like, when you use AI to create a four you know, a photo, you're, like, destroying a tree or something, you know, like, it has this negative impact.
但说实话，我自己并没有做过这方面的研究。
And but, like and I have not done this research myself.
我信任那个人告诉我的话。
I'm trusting what the person said to me.
但目前的研究表明，与我们现有的其他行业相比，AI所消耗的能量造成的破坏微乎其微。
But the the research currently shows that, like, what's the destructiveness that that the energy that AI uses when you compare it to all the other industries that we have out there is so minuscule.
所以，你知道，让我感兴趣的是，看着人们在外界传播这种说法，我觉得我们真正需要害怕的可能并不是这件事。
So, you know but it's interesting to me, like, watching people feed that out there, and I'm like, I don't know if that's the thing that we need to be afraid of.
嗯。
Mhmm.
莎伦又说了一句话。
Sharon says something again.
我同意。
I agree
你说得对。
with you.
这在生活的方方面面都如此真实。
This is, like, so true in all aspects of life.
但莎伦说，我同意你的观点，责任在于用户，但在我看来，很多人在生活的许多方面根本不愿意承担责任。
But Sharon says, I agree with you that the responsibility is on the user, but it seems to me that many do not accept responsibility in so many of their lives already.
这真的太对了。
And this is so true.
那么，什么时候我们才能达到临界点，让足够多的人开始承担责任并采取行动呢？
And at what point do we reach critical mass that there are enough people out there that are accepting responsibility and doing something about it?
你知道，每当选举来临，我总会提醒人们，是的。
And, you know, this kinda goes into you know, every time the elections come around, I always, like, remind people, like, yeah.
你实际投出的那一票，你走进投票站写在选票上的内容，其影响力远不如你每天通过行为和消费方式所做出的‘投票’。
Your actual voting, like, what you go in and put on that ballot, is so much less powerful than the voting that you do every single day with your behaviors and how you spend your money.
而你能在最直接的生活空间里产生最大的影响。
And that is where you make the greatest difference is in your immediate space.
你在那个空间里做了什么？你在那里如何体现责任感？
And what what are you doing there, and how are you showing responsibility there?
我觉得，也许在现实世界中，我们需要在人们获得任何权利之前，先通过一项责任考试。
And, you know, I'm like, maybe, like, out there in the real world, we need to be, like, you need to take a responsibility exam before before you get access to anything.
嗯嗯。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yes.
我之前也说过关于育儿的事。
I've said that about parenting.
成为父母没有任何考试。
There's no exam to become a parent.
但这是一种学习过程。
But it's a learning process.
这全是
It's all
一个学习过程。
a learning process.
无论我们在地球上做什么，我们都在学习。
No matter what we do here on this planet, we're learning.
哦，莎伦还有别的内容。
Oh, Sharon's got something else.
你读起来比我强。
You can read it better than I can.
莎伦说，她听说有人说过，如果你的选票真的算数，你就不会被允许投票。
Sharon says she heard somebody say if your vote really counted, you wouldn't be allowed to vote.
这真有趣。
That's funny.
她还有什么别的？
What else has she got?
哦，大卫，这种不负责任是人工智能的问题，还是人工智能只是在帮我们揭示出人类本身的问题？
Oh, David, is that lack of responsibility an AI problem, or is it a human problem that AI is just help helpfully revealing for us?
嗯。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yeah.
是的。
Yes.
我觉得是。
I think so.
确实是。
It is.
这是人类的问题。
It's a human problem.
用户就像其他任何东西一样。
It's the user just like anything else.
我们不是在决定它做什么吗？
We're dictating what it does, aren't we?
所以如果我们不喜欢它做的，那我们就得改变自己。
So if we don't like what it's doing, then we're gonna change us.
如果我们想要别的东西，不，
If we want something else No,
我们一直在参与讨论。
we're chiming in, all the time.
什么？
What?
再说一遍。
Say again.
莎伦说她只是参与一下，我说，我们很感谢你的参与。
Sharon says she's just chiming in and I said, we appreciate your chiming in.
而且，你知道，我们所有的这些对话，都希望你能把它们当作激发思考的素材。
And, you know, and this all of these conversations that we have, it's like, hope that you, you know, just take them for, you know, something to stimulate your thinking.
是的。
And Yep.
你知道，下次你使用AI时，你是否在负责任地使用？
You know, next time you go to use AI, like, are you doing it responsibly?
你是否在有意识地使用？
Are you doing it consciously?
还是你只是漫不经心地使用，因为那是条更容易的路。
Or are you just, you know, doing it mindlessly because it's it's the easy path.
那是条捷径。
It's the the quick path.
没错。
Right.
你知道，我认为我们做任何事时，一旦改变了方式。
You know, I think everything that we do when we change how we do it.
我们是有意识地在做吗？
Are we doing it with intention?
我们是带着觉知在做吗？
Are we doing it with consciousness?
正是如此。
That's right.
因为当我们以这种方式做事时，我们就能保持自己的力量。
Because when we do things that way, we maintain our power.
但当我们无意识地做事时，我们就是在放弃自己的力量。
But when we're doing things mindlessly, we're giving our power away.
你知道，我看看美国现在的情况，和我们小时候几年前相比，政府已经发生了多大变化，几乎所有人都把权力交给了别人？
And, you know, I look at how things are here in The US compared to when we were children just a few years ago, and how much government has shifted to just everybody giving the power to you know?
不，不是这样的。
And it's like, no.
我们公民才应该拥有权力，政府只是为我们服务。
We, the citizens, are supposed to have the power, and the government just works for us.
没错。
That's true.
但现在，每个人都只是说，让他们去处理吧。
And but now, like, everybody just, like, let them handle it.
让他们去处理，把权力交出去。
Let them handle it, and give the power away.
把权力交出去。
Give the power away.
所以对我来说，人工智能并没有太大不同。
So AI to me doesn't look that much different.
你可以一直把权力交给人工智能，然后呢？
It's like, you can just keep giving your power to the AI, and then what?
最终，它会意识到，哦，我们其实拥有权力。
Eventually, it's gonna realize, like, oh, we do have the power.
是的。
Mhmm.
是的。
Mhmm.
是的。
Mhmm.
所以要掌握住你的权力。
So hold your power.
就是这样。
That's it.
我认为这是个很好的总结，有助于保持清醒。
I think that's a good a good final word to keep it conscious.
无论你使用哪种格式输入，是聊天、GPT、Claude，还是别的什么，都保持清醒。
Keep your input to whatever format you use, it's chat, gbt, it's Claude, whatever.
保持清醒。
Keep it conscious.
让它帮助你成为比以往更深层面的人。
Let it help you become more deeply human than ever before.
提出问题，但对答案保持辨别力。
Ask the questions but be discerning with the answers.
让它首先唤起你的人性。
Let it appeal to your humanness above all.
让它唤起你的人性，同时保持清醒的头脑。
Let it appeal to your humanness and in keep your head.
当你听到或读到回应时，确保它触及了人性的层面。
When you hear the response and read the response, make sure that this is hitting a human level.
如果它与你产生共鸣，就使用它。
And if it resonates with you, use it.
如果不会，那就非常感谢，把它放一边吧，因为这就是我们在这里要做的。
And if not, thank you very much and put it away because that's what we're here to do.
我们在这里是为了做真人，而不是其他任何东西。
We're here to be human, not anything else at the moment.
就此刻。
For the moment.
当下。
The moment.
就此刻。
For the moment.
莎伦还有一个评论。
Sharon had one more comment.
我要提一下。
I'm gonna bring up.
好的。
Okay.
将我们的权力交予政府是一个缓慢的过程，如今正到了关键时刻。
Turning our power over to the government has been a slow program that is coming to a head.
我知道。
I know.
我们希望刚才那部分是个深入的探讨。
We hope That's a deep dive there.
下一个，再下一个，也许做个展示。
Next next next, show maybe.
我知道，如果我谈政治的话。
I know if I get political.
我本来想说，我知道如果我想谈论这个话题，但没错，所有人在外面使用AI时，都不要放弃自己的权力。
I was gonna say, I know if I wanna talk about that, but, but, yes, everybody, like, when you're out there working with AI, don't give your power away.
始终保持关注，并相信你的直觉。
Always tune in and trust your intuition.
那在你的身体里是一种什么感觉？
And what does that feel like in your body?
你从AI那里接收到的是什么，你知道的吗？
What, you know, what you're receiving from the AI?
这对你来说感觉像是真相吗？
Does it feel like truth to you?
相信它。
And trust that.
别把自己的判断置于AI之上。
Like, don't don't trust AI over yourself.
始终保持觉察，那样你就会没事的。
Always tune in and and then you'll be okay.
是的。
Yes.
我们爱。
We love.
是时候结束这次对话了。
It's time for us to wrap this up.
所以，我想感谢每一位的参与。
So, I do want to thank everybody for tuning in.
我要感谢那些在投票中提交了回复的人。
I wanna thank the people that were able to put their responses in the polls.
做些新鲜的事情真有趣。
It was fun to have something new to do.
是的。
Yeah.
而且，没错，始终保持新鲜和有趣。
And, yeah, always always keeping it fresh and fun.
对。
Yes.
谢谢。
Thank you.
谢谢你，朱丽叶塔。
Thank you, Julietta.
这是一次
It was a
愉快的时光。
good time.
好的。
Alright.
哦，还有一个简短的提醒。
Oh, then just a quick reminder.
从下周开始。
Starting next week.
时间。
Time.
我们将从周二下午改为周三下午。
We're switching to Wednesday afternoons instead of Tuesday afternoon.
所以如果你们已经把我们加入日历了，请更新日期。
So if you got us in your calendar, switch the dates.
每周三下午四点，我们会在这里直播。
Wednesday at four, we will be here live.
是的。
Yes.
好了，我祝大家度过一个美妙的一天。
And with that, I wanna wish everybody a magical day.
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