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你刚才说的，其实就是持久性。

Longevity is what you're speaking on.

你的意思是，你在这行已经坚持了这么久。

I mean, and you've lasted here for a long time.

这些年，我肯定你见过太多交易员中途退出了，甚至包括那些一直表现稳定的，这正是我想聊聊风险管理的原因。

And over the years, I'm sure you've seen many, many traders fall by the wayside and even probably consistent traders, which is why I want to touch on this risk management portion.

你见过多少交易员，技术其实很棒，却在某一笔交易、某一天、某一周，甚至某一个月里，把风险放得太大？

How many traders have you seen that are, they're really good traders, but they apply then too much risk on that one trade or on one day or one week or one month even?

他们没从长远角度看问题，结果让人看了都心疼。

They're not zoomed out enough to the point where it just breaks your heart.

你会想，这人明明是个厉害的交易员，可偏偏被自负毁了。

You say, man, this is a great trader, but his ego took over.

他在这笔交易上押得太重了。

He went way too heavy on this trade.

另外，我还想转到你提到的一个点：你账户规模一直控制在50左右，就是为了避免在交易机会上过度杠杆。

And then from there, I'd also want to transition to like where you have an account size that I've heard you say you just keep right around 50 maybe for that risk management, so you don't oversize, over leverage on setups.

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没错。

Right.

有两件事。

So two things.

我们先说第一件。

Let's start with number one.

我见过多少交易员，本事是有的，就是风险控制不到位，真的。

So number one is how many traders have I seen that just have the talent, but don't have the risk management, man.

我认识一个人，这家伙连续二十多天都赚钱，天天都是红的。

I knew a guy and this guy would make consistently like over twenty days and be green every day.

在这二十天里，他赚了十万块。

And over those twenty days, he make 100 ks.

结果有一天突然亏了十二万。

And then that one red day comes 120 ks minus.

就这样一遍又一遍地重复着同样的循环。

And just that same cycle over and over and over and over and over again.

不用说，这个人现在已经不在市场里了。

Needless to say, that person is not around anymore.

他有本事在二十天内赚十万，可每次只要一遇到亏损日，就全泡汤了。

He had the talent for making 100 in twenty days, but every time he had one possible red day gone.

还有一点要注意，有些人风险扛得太大。

And also something to keep in mind is there's those people that risk too much.

也有些人完全走另一个极端，连亏两千都怕得要命。

Then there's the people that are the complete opposite of the spectrum that are scared to lose 20.

我有个朋友，每天在体育博彩上都押三百块。

I had a friend that sports bets like $300 a day.

但一进交易，他居然为亏20块紧张得不得了。

But when he gets into trading, he's betting $20 on a loss and he's freaking out.

你到底在搞什么名堂？

Like, what the hell are you doing?

你玩体育博彩的时候敢下更大的注，反倒在交易里为十分之一的金额慌成这样。

You're gambling more freaking sports betting, but a tenth of it on trading, you're freaking out.

所以得找到一个平衡点——你得能接受风险，但也不能被它吓住。

So there has to be kind of like a middle ground of, you know, you have to be not only accepting of risk, but you can't be scared of it either.

有些人就是怕输20块，怕得要命。

You know, some people are just deathly afraid of losing $20.

如果真是这样，那交易可能真不适合你。

And if that's the case, maybe trading is not for you.

这两种极端，我都见过。

So I've seen both ends of the spectrum, you know?

你当初不是从两千块的账户开始的吗？

Well, you started out with the $2,000 account, right?

然后你一点一点地把账户越做越大。

And then you've grown it and grown it and grown it.

我是说，你能跟那些还在害怕风险的听众说说吗？

I mean, can you talk to the person out there who's listening, who is scared of that risk?

他们账户小，不知道该怎么一步步过渡到你那种能坦然面对风险的阶段。

Like they have a smaller account and they don't know how to size up to that next level where you kind of were able to embrace that risk.

那个交易者该怎么学会接受这种风险呢？

How can that trader embrace that risk?

对。

Yeah.

我觉得最重要的是，如果你连自己的交易信号质量都判断不了，那就还没资格加大仓位。

So I think it's really important is number one is if you do not know the grade of your setup, you have not earned the ability to size up yet.

这个道理其实很简单，因为但凡刚入行的人，一上来就想加仓。

And it's very, very simple to understand because the reality is whenever someone wants to get into trading, they want to start sizing up immediately.

对吧？

Right?

你刚开始交易的时候，看到满屏的Instagram和YouTube视频，全是豪车、名表，想着用一千美元账户复制那种生活，简直难上加难。

It's like, you know, you know, you start trading, you see all these, you know, Instagram videos, these YouTube videos, the cars, the watches, this, And then, you know, you're trying to replicate that with a thousand dollar accounts can be very, very difficult.

你得记住，不妨先听听我的经历——我第一年做交易的时候。

And what you have to remember is maybe it might be a good idea to kind of share a little bit about me is my first year trading.

我亏钱了。

I lost money.

第二年我才回本，那会儿刚学会做空；到了第三年，每天能赚一百美元左右。

My second year I broke even when I discovered short selling my third year, started to make like a $100 a day.

对。

Right.

真正开始在交易上脱颖而出，是我第四年的事。

So by my fourth year is when I started to really excel in trading.

所以大家得明白，每天赚个五六十到一百美元，根本不是为了改变人生。

So what I think people have to understand is even making a very small $50 to $100 a day is not the point of that is not to change your life.

它的意义在于证明你真的懂市场，懂最基础的行情波动，因为到最后，你随时可以把仓位乘上十倍。

The point of that is to prove that you understand the market and understand very simple market conditions because at the end the day, can always add a zero at the end of your share size.

没错。

Right.

但我要回过头说一句，人们得明白，重仓只该用在最顶尖的交易机会上。

But to kind of backtrack is I think people need to realize that size is reserved for the best setups only.

没错。

Right.

那什么才算完美的机会呢？

It's like what is like the perfect opportunity?

没错。

Right.

完美的机会可不是天天有，也不是周周有，一年能碰上一两次就不错了。

Perfect opportunities don't happen every single day, every single week, perfect opportunities happen once or twice a year.

我最近能想到的例子，就是去年四月，特朗普宣布暂停关税，市场瞬间暴涨。

Some of the most recent examples I can think of is during April of last year when president Trump announced a ninety day pause market ripped up.

那种机会十年都难遇一次，或者更近一点的例子，比如Meat公司，股价从五毛钱冲到八美元，又跌回三美元左右。

That's a once in a decade opportunity, or even more recently beyond meat when it went from like 50¢ to like $8 back down to like $3.

那是一年才遇一次的机会。

That was a once a year type of opportunity.

所以总会有这样的机会，比如GameStop、AMC这些疯狂暴涨的股票，几年才出现一次。

So there's always gonna be these or even the GameStop, the AMC's and all of these other crazy runners, once in a couple of year opportunity.

所以你要问自己：我现在交易的这个机会，跟那种情况类似吗？

So you have to tell yourself is the opportunity that I'm trading similar to that?

如果答案是肯定的，那就该大胆出手。

And if the answer is yes, that's when you get aggressive.

如果答案是否定的，那就别急，小打小闹就行了。

If the answer is no, you just sit around and scalp around.

对我来说，每天进场时，我并不指望赚十万块，虽然谁不想要呢？但如果机会不成熟，我绝不会冒进。

So for me, every day that I show up, I'm not looking to make a $100,000 although I would like to, if the opportunity is not there, then I'm not gonna be aggressive.

所以我总是提醒自己：今天这个行情，是不是一个高概率的布局，值得加仓？

So I always just try to show up and just ask like, is this a day to size up based on a high probability setup?

还是说，我只是因为手痒，才想加仓？

Or is this a day I'm sizing up just because I feel like it.

如果只是因为想交易就进场，那好吧，今天大概就没什么戏了。

And if it's just because I feel like it, God bless, I'm probably dead for the day.

没错。

Right.

那你怎么看那句话——90%的利润其实来自10%的交易？

So what do you think about that saying then that 90% of your profits are made on 10% of the trades?

你觉得这话有道理吗？

Do you think that's true?

对我而言，这话确实成立。

It's accurate for me.

我认识的大多数交易员都是这样，我那些最大的单子，几百万美元的盈利日，才是真正拉高我总盈亏的关键。

For most traders I know, you know, like the biggest trades that I had, you know, the multi 6 figure days, those are the days that, you know, up creating my big P and Ls.

但每天我上市场，都是靠做五块十块的小单子在赚。

But every day that I'm showing up to the market, I'm making 5 or $10 scalping.

这些小利润一点点累积起来，最后也添了不少收益。

You know, I'm adding some extra P and L to my bottom line.

我会时刻关注市场动态，因为现实情况是，如果你只在那些大行情出现时才入场，假设一年只来四次，为了方便计算，就当每个季度一次吧。

I'm staying in tune with the market because the reality is that if you just show up for those big days, call it four times a year, once a quarter to make the math easy.

如果你在这些关键行情中入场却搞砸了，天哪，你就彻底完了。

If you show up for those big days and you screwed up, oh man, you're dead.

你就彻底完了。

You're dead.

所以，通过紧跟市场节奏并每天进行交易，我能随时感知市场的情绪走向。

So by being in tune with the market and by trading every single day, I am seeing, all right, what is the sentiment of the market?

哪些策略有效？

What is working?

哪些策略行不通？

What is not working?

因为如果我盲目地不看市场，我就不会意识到，也许这个季度表现不佳的股票，前两天还在上涨，但到了第三天就崩盘了。

Because if I'm blindly not looking at the market, I won't know that maybe the stocks that are fading in this quarter are stocks that are pushing for two days.

然后在第三天，它们就失败了。

And then on the third day, they're failing.

如果这就是我在市场上一直观察和留意到的情况的话。

If that's what I've been seeing and monitoring in the market.

要是我不这么做，回头一看，发现股票第二天就涨起来了，那我可能就完蛋了。

Well, if I just don't do that and I come back and I see, oh, the stock is running on day two, I might be dead.

所以每天交易的目的，在我看来，就是让你跟上市场的节奏，在等待每季度才出现一次的重磅机会时保持敏感，比如上个季度，黄金、白银和原油就出现了这样的机会。

So the day to day trades are to kind of keep you in tune with the market, in my opinion, as you wait for those big Super Bowl style opportunities that come once a quarter, you know, and it just recently in this last quarter, we had gold, silver and oil, you know,

我特别喜欢这一点。

I love that.

对。

Yeah.

这确实很棒。

I mean, that's excellent.

那你现在还保持着那种保守策略吗？就是账户里一直留着三万五到五万美元？

So do you still keep your kind of your back against the wall, if you will, with the 35 or 50,000 that you have in that account?

你现在这方面的情况怎么样？

Where are you with that now?

当这些季度性的机会出现时，你会不会直接转账加仓，果断下手？

And do you, and when those opportunities present themselves that once a quarter opportunity, do you, let's say even wire in money at that point and say, hey, I'm hammering this.

这时候就该把风险敞口放开了。

Let's put the risk on at this point.

好问题。

Yeah, great question.

我刚开始交易的时候，资金量比较小，因为今年 PDT 规则可能会取消。

So when I first started trading, I would use more of like because you have to have like because PDT is going to go away sometime this year.

不过 PDT 规定账户至少要 2.5 万美元，我一般会留 3 万左右，留点余地。

But the PDT rule is 25 ks and you need to have at least like 30 ks in your account for like a little bit of a buffer.

等我账户终于超过这个门槛后，我就一直保持在 3.5 万美元左右，这样能有 1 万的缓冲空间。

So when I finally got over that hump and had enough to fund my account with that, I'll keep my account around 35 ks, which gave me like a 10 ks buffer.

每当我账户涨到 5 万美元，我就会转出 1.5 万到银行。

And every time that my account grew to $50,000 I would wire out 15 ks.

转到银行，存进银行，存进银行。

I put that in my bank account, put that in my bank account, put that in my bank account.

现在这种情况跟之前有点类似。

Now, it's kind of similar to the thing.

我一般会把账户维持在五万到六万美元左右，每到十万就转出一部分。

I've been kind of keeping it around like 50 ks 60 ks every time I get to a 100, I wire it out.

但遇到那些特别大的机会时，

But what I do is on those very, very big opportunities.

我肯定会往里加钱。

I definitely wire in.

不过，这属于比较进阶的做法。

Now, this is a more advanced type of thing.

我不建议大多数交易者这么做，因为大多数人根本分辨不出高概率的交易形态。

I do not suggest that most traders do this because most traders do not know what the proper high probability setups are.

但我本人一点都不介意往账户里注资，抓住机会后再转出来，毕竟一年里90%的时间，我根本不需要大额账户。

But yeah, I have no problem wiring into my account, taking advantage of that opportunity and then wiring back out because the reality is that for 90% of the year, I don't really need a big account.

我只需要在那10%的关键机会来临时，账户有足够的资金就够了。

You know, I just need a big account for those 10% of the setups.

当那百分之十的交易机会出现时，我会毫不犹豫地往账户里多投资金，确保有足够的买入实力来抓住机会。

And when those 10% of the setups come, I have no problem wiring in more aggressively into my account to give me that buying power that I need to capitalize.

但对于新手交易者来说，这真的很难理解。

But for new traders, I mean, that's very difficult to understand.

我不建议你这么做，除非你已经交易一段时间，并且清楚知道自己最拿手的交易模式是什么。

I do not suggest that unless you've been trading for a while and know exactly what your best setups are.

否则你只会让亏损越滚越大。

Otherwise you're gonna balloon your losses in opinion.

这个

This

这正是你出名的原因，也是你被称为传奇的原因。

is what you're known for and why you're a legend.

你就是知道怎么识别顶级的交易信号，然后果断加仓，充分利用它。

You just, you know, the A plus setup, you know how to really just lean into it and take advantage of it.

我听说你最近还说过，新手交易者应该改掉加仓摊平亏损的习惯，转而学会在盈利时加仓。

And I heard you even recently say you think newer traders should I mean, they should get out of that habit of adding to losers and instead adding to winners.

现在从情绪上来说确实很难，因为按照我听到的说法，你是在加仓盈利的仓位。

Now it's challenging emotionally from what I heard because what happens is, you know, you add to the winner.

这样一来，你的平均成本就降低了。

Well, now your average is coming down.

所以交易员们很难适应这种做法。

So the traders have a hard time getting comfortable with that.

交易员要怎样才能习惯于加仓盈利的仓位呢？

How can traders become comfortable adding to their winners?

对。

Yeah.

关于这一点，我有个有点争议的看法。

So this is I have a kind of a controversial take on this.

我就这么想的：别管你的平均成本了，根本不用在乎它。

And this is just kind of the way that I think about it is, you know, I say screw your average man, screw your average.

为什么呢？

Why?

如果股价朝着对我有利的方向走，我才不在乎我的平均成本呢，因为股价越朝有利方向走，我这笔交易的胜率就越高。

If the stock is going in your favor, I don't care what my average is because the more the stock goes in my favor, the higher my win rate gets on the stock.

我给你举个例子。

Let me give you an example.

比如说我做空一只股票，也就是我希望股价下跌，这样我才能赚钱。

So let's say I'm going short of stock, meaning I want the stock to go down and I'll make money.

如果股价出现一根死亡十字星，预示趋势反转，那我这个交易策略的胜率可能就从50%升到65%。

Well, if a stock has a death candle that signals a change in trend, Maybe my win rate on the setup goes from 50% to 65%.

然后，要是股价再跌破VWAP，对吧？

And let's say after that it breaks VWAP, right?

那胜率就从65%进一步升到75%。

Then my win rate goes from 65% to 75%.

接着，跌破VWAP之后，股价又突破了当日的最高点。

And then after it breaks VWAP, it breaks the law of the day.

这时候，我的胜率可能就从75%跳到85%甚至90%了。

Then my win rate goes from 75% to probably 85 or 90%.

所以当出现死亡十字、跌破VWAP，再加上跌破当日低点时，股价继续下跌的概率会大幅上升，这时候我该做的就是加仓盈利头寸，而不是去加仓亏损的。因为胜率已经明显高太多了。

So at that point, when we have a death candle, a break of VWAP and a break of low of the day, the the win rate gets so aggressively higher for the stock to go down that I should just be focused on adding to my winner because the win rate is going to be so dramatically higher versus then adding to a loser.

大家都总想着要有个完美的平均成本，完美的平均成本，完美的平均成本——可如果股价跟你反着走，这平均成本根本没意义，对吧？

Everyone's always afraid about having this perfect average, the perfect average, the perfect average, perfect average doesn't matter if the stock is going against you, right?

但如果你的判断是对的，股价正朝着你预期的方向走，那你作为交易员，这时候就该更激进，而不是在错的时候还硬撑。

But if the stock is going in your favor and you are being proven right, it is your job as a trader to get more aggressive when you are proven right versus more aggressive when you're proven wrong.

我打个比方。

Here's an analogy.

你家着火了。

Your house is on fire.

你觉得这时候往火里再添点油、再加点火，是救房子的好办法吗？

Do you think the best way to get your house out of fire is to add more fire, add more gas?

还是说，你应该赶紧泼水灭火？

Or do you think you should add water?

房子着火了，说明你交易的方向搞错了。

When a house is on fire, that means your trading is wrong.

这说明你在这笔交易上判断错了。

That means you're wrong on a trade.

这些人在给自己的火堆添油。

These idiots are adding gasoline to their fire.

他们让火越烧越大。

They're making their fire larger and larger.

然后还纳闷儿：为啥我家着得这么快？

And they're like, why the hell is my house burning down faster?

我当时就说：这啥情况？

I said, what the hell?

但说实话，我花了不少时间才想明白这个道理。

But that again, that takes me a while to understand.

你要这么想：当你亏钱的时候，就像家里着火了。

But that's the way that you have to think about is when you're in a losing trade, your house is on fire.

你往亏损的单子上加仓，等于在着火的房子里往火里倒汽油。

When you're adding to your loser, when the house is on fire, you're adding gas.

房子会烧得更快。

The house is gonna burn down faster.

你应该赶紧离开那栋房子，别回头，明白吗？

What you should do is get the hell out of that house as fast as possible and don't look back, you know?

这话说得太到位了。

That is so good.

别管什么平均值。

Screw the average.

你其实想说的是，别总想着猜对价格，而是该专注赚钱，比如那个股票走势……

What you're essentially saying is focus on making money instead of trying to be right, you know, with the perfect average on the ticker that

股票正朝着对你有利的方向走。

stock is going in your favor.

如果自己的判断被市场验证了，人们通常的做法是：对的时候就落袋为安，错的时候反而加仓。

If your plan is getting proved correct, what people end up doing is when they are proven correct and it's going in their favor, they take the profit when they are wrong and it's going against them, they get in larger.

正确的做法恰恰相反：股票跟你作对时赶紧撤，股票顺着你走时才该加码。

It should be the inverse as the stock is going against you get out as stock is going for you get bigger.

这就意味着，当你被证明是对的时候，就得加大注码。

It's like you must bet bigger when you are proven correct.

再举个刚才的例子，股价重新站上了VWAP。

So again, let's say that same example, the stock reclaimed the VWAP.

它又回到了当日的低点。

It reclaimed low of the day.

然后又冲回了当日的高点，不管它具体怎么走的。

It went back to the high of the day, whatever it did.

说实话，交易这事儿不可能完美。

I mean, trading is not perfect.

你不可能每笔交易都赢。

You're not going to win every single time.

虽然不是每笔都能赚钱，但至少你给自己创造了最佳机会，让盈利头寸能越做越大。

You're not going to win on every single trade, but at least you gave yourself the best possible opportunity to get in larger on the setup.

我在想，最近咱们见过的一个典型例子是哪个。

You know, I'm trying to think of one of the most recent examples that we've seen.

你看，白银、原油和黄金最近都太疯狂了，对吧？

I mean, you know, silver, oil and gold have been kind of crazy, right?

你还记得吗？大概两三周前，原油突然暴涨，之后就开始回落。

It's like if you remember when oil I think was about two or three weeks ago when oil had that big, big, big gap up and it started to sell off.

我记得价格一度冲到每桶一百多美元，然后慢慢一路跌下来，跌得特别慢。

I think it gapped up to like 100 something a barrel and just start to slowly sell off, slowly sell off.

对啊。

Right.

后来特朗普突然宣布战争结束了。

And then Trump came out with news that the war was over.

那完全是假消息，但原油还是因此又暴跌了百分之十以上。

It was BS, but the war was oil collapsed 10% more.

所以当你发现自己的判断是对的时，好好想想这一点。

So when you're being proven right, think about this.

当你做空原油，觉得价格会回调、会下跌的时候。

When you're shorting oil like that and your thesis is oil is going to fade, it's going to come down.

特朗普宣布战争结束，油价立马崩盘。

And the news of Trump comes out that the war is over and oil collapses.

这时候，你是该平仓离场，还是该加大仓位？

Does it make more sense to exit your position there or to get an even more aggressive?

因为现在你有了一个有力的佐证。

Because now you have a catalyst to back you up.

大多数交易员一看到这种信号，发现自己猜对了，就立马冷静下来，不敢再动。

What most traders do is when they see that backup, when they see that they are being proven correct, go cool.

我确实赚了一点，但不对，当你判断正确的时候，反而应该加仓，尤其是当行情条件支持的时候。

I made a little bit of money, but no, when you're proven correct, get in bigger, especially if the setup warrants it.

我觉得很多人完全忽略了这一点：大家总喜欢往亏的单子里加码。

And that's the thing that I think is super slept on is people love adding to their losers.

赢的单子一有点利润就赶紧平掉，然后还纳闷自己为啥赚不到钱——每次自家着火，还往里泼汽油。

They love scalping out of their winners and they wonder why the hell am I not making money because every time my house is burning down, I'm adding gas to it.

仔细想想，这其实挺有道理的。

Mean, it's logical if you think about it.

我一向喜欢用比喻来讲课，因为比喻能让道理更真实。

And I always like to teach with analogies because analogies help them be real.

我有个问题想请教一下。

So I have a question regarding that.

我有很多疑问，但这个特别想问，因为我见过一些很靠谱的交易员，他们会分批建仓，比如把整个仓位拆开。

I got a lot, but this one specifically, because I've seen some respectable traders, you know, they size into their positions without nest They break up their full position, let's say.

那这算加仓还是分批入场？

So is that adding or scaling?

比如说，我计划做空这只股票一千股，先开两百股，再逐步加仓。

For example, if I plan, you know, a thousand shares short on this ticker, maybe I start with 200 and size into it.

这种做法，算是在着火的房子里往里添油吗？

Is there an appropriate way to put fuel on your house?

如果你是多头，那就反过来操作。

If you're long, do the damn opposite.

明白了。

So, okay.

假设我想做空一只股票，对吧？

So let's say I'm looking to short a stock, right?

我有个规矩：如果一只股票的价格高于成交量加权平均价，我就不能超过最大仓位的30%。

I have a rule and my rule is if a stock is above VWAP, the volume weighted average price, I am not allowed to use more than 30% of my max size.

为什么呢？

Why?

因为我绝不打算加仓到一个亏损的头寸里。

It's because I don't want to add to a loser.

对。

Right.

再举个例子，假设这个交易策略的最大仓位是1000股。

So let's say my max size on the setup again for math is 1,000 shares.

对。

Right.

所以我想在符合条件的交易上满仓操作，也就是1000股。

So I want to go max size on a setup that has it's going to be 1,000 shares.

如果股价高于VWAP，跟我操作方向相反，那我最多只用30%的仓位。

If the stock is above VWAP going against me, 30% is the max size that I'm going use.

也就是300股。

So that'd be 300 shares.

所以只要股价在VWAP上方，我就不能超过300股。

So if it's above VWAP, I will not be allowed to use more than 300 shares.

每当我收到确认信号，也就是市场证明我方向对了的时候，我就会加仓。

Now, as each time I get a confirmation signal, right, a signal that I am being proven right, I'll add to my winner.

这是什么意思呢？

What does that mean?

如果股价突破了VWAP，我就能加到50%的仓位。

If the stock then breaks VWAP, I will get to 50% of my size.

如果股价再跌破当日低点，我就加到75%的仓位。

If the stock then breaks low of the day, I'll get to 75% of my size.

我通常会拿一小部分利润落袋，因为只要我锁定一点利润，就能让自己更沉得住气。

And then what I like to do is I always like to take a little bit of profit off the table because if whenever I take a little bit of profit off the table, it helps me be patient.

如果股价反弹，我可以把部分利润重新投入作为加仓资金。

And in case the stock bounces, I could repurpose some of those profits as a reshore.

对我来说，每次市场验证我的判断是对的，我就加仓。

So for me, every time I get a signal proving me right, that's when I add.

如果你是做多的交易者，股价回升到VWAP上方，就加仓。

So if you're a long buys trader, if it reclaims VWAP, you add to your winner.

如果股价突破当天高点，就加仓。

If it reclaims the high of the day, you add to your winner.

如果股价回升到盘前高点，也加仓。

If it reclaims the pre market high of the day, you add to your winner.

所以，每当你发现市场验证了你的交易思路——比如你原本打算做空这只股票，结果它完全按你的预期走的时候。

So every time that you're getting proven right on any type of setup, any type of signal, any type of something that says, you know what, Kevin, my thought process was I'm looking to short this stock and it just did everything that I want.

它完全按我的预期走。

It did everything I want.

这时候，我就会加大仓位。

And that's what I'm gonna get aggressive.

所以我觉得这特别关键。

So I think that's super, super key.

而且我觉得这对大多数人来说也非常有价值，你要明白，加仓不是凭感觉随便来的。

And I think that's super, super valuable for most people as well as understand you're not just sizing up just because you feel like it.

我要是光凭感觉就加仓，那真说不准会怎样。

I mean, if I size up just because I felt like it, man, mean, I don't know.

我每天都有这种感觉。

I mean, I feel like it every day, man.

我今天状态特别好，你知道吧？

I'm feeling hot, you know?

说到底，我只希望确保，只要图表出现明确信号，有理由支撑我的判断，那就果断出手。

The reality is that, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I just want to make sure that, you know, whenever there's a signal, whenever there's a reason, whenever there is a proven fact in the chart emphasizing my idea, go for it, baby.

果断出手。

Go for it.

果断出手。

Go for it.

好的。

Okay.

假设你这笔交易只用了最大30%的仓位，结果走势跟你反着来。

Let's say that that trade where you're taking 30% max of the share size, let's say it goes against you.

你知道的，信号失效了。

You know, it invalidates.

你是只设一个硬性止损点一次性退出，还是把退出分成好几个阶段？

Are you taking one just hard stop on one exit or are you breaking that exit up into multiple positions?

你是怎么处理这种情况的？

How do you go about that?

对我来说，我慢慢明白了一点。

Well, for me, what I've realized is this.

当你只用了30%的仓位时，止损退出要容易得多，要是用了50%甚至1000%，就没这么轻松了。

It is a lot easier to stop out of your position when you have 30% of your size on than it is 50% or a thousand percent.

以前还没定下这个规则的时候，我通常只会平掉一半。

So back in the day before I had this rule in place, I would stop out of half.

如果行情继续反向走，我就把剩下那一半也平掉。

And then if it keeps going against me, I stopped out of the other half.

但现在只用30%的仓位，天啊，我闭着眼睛都能止损了。

But now with 30% of my size, man, I could close my eyes and stop out.

这感觉不像被刺一刀，倒像是被纸划了一下，你懂吧？

It doesn't, it's like a paper cut rather than a dagger, you know?

太棒了。

Love it.

这个比喻太贴切了。

Great analogy.

所以你觉得，像我们刚才聊的仓位控制和交易机会分级，这些确实很重要。

So do you think for I know we're talking sizing and you talked about grading your setups, which I think is huge.

但对于新手交易者来说，他们一开始根本摸不着方向，只能瞎猜，不知道自己的优势到底在哪。

But for the newer trader, I mean, have to essentially throw darts, you know, before they figure out like, where's my edge?

真正的突破口到底在哪里？

Where does it lie?

我的交易策略是什么？

What's my setup?

接下来我们来详细聊聊你的策略。

Which we're going to dive into yours.

对于新手交易者来说，你觉得他们应该逐步加仓和减仓，还是应该先保持仓位稳定，直到真正学会像你所说的那样评估交易？

So do you think for the newer trader that they should be sizing in and out of trades, or do you think they should keep their sizing fairly consistent until they do know how to grade like you're saying?

我觉得现在有太多工具可以选择，比如那些每月收费二十美元的交易日志软件。

I think in this day and age, there's so many different tools out there, whether it be, you know, these trading journals that are, you know, 20 a month.

但即使你不想花每月二十美元，人工智能也已经非常强大了。

But even if you don't have $20 a month, AI is incredible.

你应该把你的交易记录上传到AI里，然后给每笔交易打标签，比如‘这次我没做好’。

What you should do is you should take your trades, upload them into AI and just tag them like, hey, this is a trade that I didn't do right on this.

这次我忘了做记录。

I didn't write on this.

你知道，那些赚钱的交易。

You know, we're making money on.

我后来明白了。

I learned.

显然，我那时候还没有AI这种东西。

So obviously AI didn't exist when I was around.

但我当时会把交易记录上传到TradingView，或者别的类似平台。

But what I would do is I would upload my trades into trading view, trading review, whatever it is.

我从中学到了太多太多关于自己的事。

And I learned so many, so many things about myself.

我学到的关键点是这样：

Here's what I learned.

我发现自己在2到10美元之间的股票上赚得最多。

I learned that I make the most amount of money on stocks $2 to $10.

我发现自己在早上9点半到10点半这段时间赚得最多。

I learned that I make the most amount of money from 09:30 to $10.30.

既然我知道自己在2到10美元的股票上赚钱最多，那我就不再碰低于2美元的股票。

So if I learned that I make most amount of money from $2 and $10, I don't trade under $2.

除非遇到特别大的机会，否则我一般不交易超过10美元的股票。

I don't really trade over $10 unless it's a very big opportunity.

既然我发现大部分利润都来自9:30到10:30，那我就不在9:30之前动手。

If I learn that I make most of my money between 09:30 and 10:30, I don't trade before 09:30.

10:30之后我也完全不交易。

I don't trade after 10:30.

我发现自己周一亏的钱最多。

I learned that I lose the most amount of money on Mondays.

为什么偏偏是周一亏得最多呢？

Why do I lose the most amount of money on Mondays?

因为周末太期待交易了，一到周一就忍不住冲得太猛。

I'm so excited over the weekend to trade that I get overeager on Mondays.

所以现在周一我都会减小仓位。

So I try to size down on Mondays.

我还发现，我的胜率大概有75%。

You know, I learned that I have a 75% win rate.

所以只要我的胜率低于75%，我就该考虑放慢节奏了。

So anytime my win rate is under 75% that maybe I should start slowing down.

这到底怎么回事，亚历克斯？

What the hell is going on, Alex?

情况有点不一样了。

Something's changing.

我知道了，如果晚上没睡好，第二天交易状态就会很差。

You know, I learned that if I don't get enough sleep during the night, I don't perform well.

我发觉，要是带着宿醉去交易，根本做不好决定。

I learned that if I'm hungover when I'm trading, I don't trade well.

要是跟女朋友吵架，或者跟朋友闹别扭，我交易起来也特别糟。

I learned that if I fight with my girl or fight with my friends, I don't trade well.

这些看似微不足道的小事，其实都清清楚楚地告诉我该注意什么。

So all these little things that may seem little in the moment told me exactly what I need to know.

我从不早于9:30开始交易。

I don't trade before 09:30.

我现在过了10点半就不交易了。

I don't trade after 10:30 anymore.

你知道吗，周一我不会那么激进地交易。

You know, I don't trade as aggressively on Mondays.

要是跟女朋友吵了架，或者没睡好，我就直接退出，减少仓位。

You know, I walk away if I have a fight with my girl, if I don't get enough sleep, I'm sizing down.

这些数据，我花了好多年才慢慢积累起来。

So that took me years and years and years my data to track.

说实话，想找到适合自己的方法，只能靠自己记录数据，因为每个人都是不一样的交易者。

And the reality is that, you know, the only way you could find what works for you is you have to track your own stats because every single person is a different type of Trader, man.

我们每个人都是不同的交易者。

We are all different traders.

每个人关注的点都不一样。

We have all different things that we work on.

每个人遇到的困难也不一样。

We have all different things that we struggle with.

事实上，我交易中的错误不会是你交易中的错误。

And the reality is my trading mistakes are not going to be your trading mistakes.

也许对我来说，这个说法听起来有点疯狂，但我确实知道。

Maybe for me, the fact that I actually know it's going sound crazy.

我认识一个交易员，喝醉了反而交易得更好。

I know a trader that trades way better when he's drunk.

为什么呢？

Why?

他靠的是直觉在交易。

He's trading through instinct.

他从二十岁就开始做交易了。

He's been a 20 year old trader.

你每天都跟他一起交易吗？

You trade with him every day?

他回来了。

He's back.

为了教学目的，我随时愿意拿他当反面教材。

I'll throw him under the bus just for education.

但你知道，我不能直接跟他说，他喝醉了反而交易得更好，因为那时候他根本不会过脑子。

But you know, I can't tell him that, but he's a weight better trader when he's drunk because he's not thinking.

他只是凭直觉反应。

He's just reacting.

我给你举个例子吧。

It's like, I'll give you an example.

你刚学开车的时候，是不是总在想：我有没有压线？

The first time you started learning how to drive a car, you know, you'd be like, am I in the lanes?

转向灯打没打？

Did I pull my signal up?

停车标志前是不是左转右转够了三秒？

Did I turn left and right for seconds at the stop sign?

但现在你一上车，根本不用想，身体自然就做了。

Now when you get in the car, don't even think you just do.

你就是直接做了。

You just do.

交易也是这样，等你足够熟练了，就不再去刻意想了。

So that's the way it is in trading is after you get good enough, you stop thinking about it.

直觉，对吧？

Intuition, right?

它变成了直觉。我其实也想问你，现在你还像以前那样详细记录和复盘吗？

It becomes intuition, which I was going to ask you too, do you still have to really track and journal these days like you did back then?

还是就靠直觉了？

Or it's just intuition?

就是你知道，你就是能感觉到什么时候该加仓、减仓，什么时候不该交易，比如周一就别大手笔操作，诸如此类。

Like, you know, you just know, you just know when to size up, size down, not to trade on, you know, month size down on Mondays, all of them.

说实话，我本该更认真地统计我的数据，但做了十二年，赚了一千六百万，人就有点松懈了。不过我现在确实心里有数了。

The honest truth is I should be tracking my stats more, you know, but after twelve years and $16,000,000 I've gotten a little bit lazy, but I definitely because now I know now I know.

我的水平从现在起，大概也不会有太大变化了。

I mean, it's not really gonna change from here.

你知道吧，可能一些细节会有点变化，但说实话，我对自己的交易方式了如指掌。

You know, maybe the little nuances might change a little bit, you know, but the reality is that I know everything about my personal trading.

我知道自己在哪儿容易犯错。

I know where I'm an idiot.

我也清楚自己在哪方面最拿手。

I know where I excel.

所以说实话，所有新手交易者都得记账，不管你做什么，你根本不知道什么策略对你有效。

And yeah, so that's kind of I think all new traders, no matter what, no matter what have to track because you don't know, you don't know what is working for you.

我可能会说，我最拿手的是‘第一个红日’模式。

I could say that, you know, my best setups are the First Red Day.

但说不定你其实更适合在VWAP反弹时进场，或者其他什么情况。

Turns out maybe you stuck at first red days, but you're better at buying a VWAP reclaim, whatever it is.

如果你连这个都不清楚，那肯定会在错误的时机加仓，对吧？

If you don't know that, then you're gonna be sizing up on all the wrong setups, you know?

对。

Yeah.

咱们聊聊这个核心优势吧。

Let's talk about that core edge.

就是你多年来一直坚持交易的那个‘第一个红日’。

I mean, that you've traded consistently over the years, that that first Red Day.

为什么这个‘第一个红日’能这么多年都这么有效？你为什么一直坚持用它？

I mean, what has why has that worked so well consistently over the years, that first Red Day that you continue to trade?

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This is Kevin.

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Now back to the chat with our guest.

只要人类的贪婪、恐惧和情绪不变，市场模式就不会变。

As long as human greed and human fear and human emotions don't change, the patterns will not change.

这到底是什么意思？

What does that mean?

我那个‘红色日’策略之所以这么有效，是因为它抓住了人性中的贪婪。

The reason why I first Red Day worked so well is because it capitalizes on the human greed.

股价从两块涨到五块，五块到十块，十块到二十块，二十块到四十块，四十块到六十块——你觉得它是不是就要冲到一百了？

Stock goes from $2 to $5 then $5 to $10 and $10 to $20 and $20 to $40 $40 to $60 Like baby, it's going to $100 Right?

可一旦某天它不再继续上涨，那就是见顶了，因为那些经验不足的买家还在不断补仓抄底，而聪明的资金却趁机在他们接盘的时候出货。

And then all of a sudden, the first day that it doesn't continue to extend is the day that it tops out because all of these inexperienced longs keep averaging down to their loser, whereas the smart money is selling into their liquidity.

没错。

Absolutely.

对于一些这样的交易，我听你说过，一开始你可能会遇到那种涨了五成的股票。

Now with some of these plays, I've heard you say early on, you may have those like the 50% runners.

我们拿第一个例子来说吧。

Like, let's take the first example.

你说股价从2块涨到5块，这在十年前可是很大的变动了。

You said stock that goes from two to five, and that would be a significant move, what, ten years ago.

但后来情况变了，大家开始追逐200%、300%、400%、500%的涨幅，你提到的那种贪婪情绪这些年越来越疯狂。

But then it kind of transitioned into you getting 200, 300, 400, 500, that greed you're talking about just taken over over the years.

那你怎么判断，这确实是第一个下跌日，而不是庄家在诱多，故意拉高到下一波千倍涨幅之前设的陷阱呢？

And so how do you identify, okay, this is the first red day and they're not just kind of trapping you and sending it up to the next thousand percent.

对。

Yeah.

说白了，第一个下跌日之所以有效，就是因为它是股价第一次转跌的那天。

I mean, look, the reason why the first red day works is it's the first day that it goes red.

你没法提前预判这种走势。

You cannot anticipate the move.

你必须等它真的开始下跌，再出手。

You have to wait for it to go red and then attack it.

其实，这种耐心的培养，就拿今年我遇到的最大一次红色日线来说，就是在黄金上。

You know, that's kind of what helps build, you know, this patience aspect is, for example, one of the biggest first red days for me this year was on gold.

我在黄金上赚了大约二十万美元。

I made around $200,000 on gold.

我想我那段实盘交易的视频还挂在YouTube上。

And I think I have the live trading video on YouTube.

我每天都会直播交易，之后把回放上传到YouTube。

So every day I trade live and then I post those replays on YouTube.

黄金这次能成功，是因为它连续多日持续拉升，一波接一波地涨。

But the reason why gold worked out is because it was a multi day runner that pushed and pushed and pushed.

最后突然跳空冲到五千五百左右，GLD大概在505附近。

And then finally gapped up towards 5,500 ish or GLD was around five zero five.

等它跳空之后终于开始回落，那基本上就是永远的高点了。

Then when it gapped up and finally sold off, I mean, that was the top forever.

我指的是2026年1月29日那次红色日线。

And I'm referencing the first Red Day on 01/29/2026.

这个高点持续了很长很长时间。

That's the top for a very, very long time.

1月27号、28号连续两天跳空上涨，第三天又跳空，然后转跌，从此一去不返，你知道吧？

It had on January 27, January 28 gapped up, gapped up, third day gap up, went red, and it was gone forever, you know?

对我来说，这笔交易并不是在跳空上涨时开的。

And it's just to me, the trade got initiated, not on the gap up.

跳空上涨只是给了我一点提示，我觉得就像鲨鱼闻到了血味一样。

The gap up gave me some, I would say the gap up gave me kind of like, it's like a shark that has blood in the water, right?

鲨鱼开始四处张望，闻到一点血腥味，就知道要出事了。

You know, the shark is starting to look around, you know, he smells a little bit of blood, you know, he sees what's about to happen.

等它一转跌，那就是出手的时候了。

And then when it goes red, it's attack, you know?

太棒了。

Love it.

你接触过这么多顶尖交易员，包括在SMB资本那段日子，见过最厉害的那些人。

So you've been around so many, you know, high level traders, including the time you had at SMB capital from the best traders that you've seen.

你认为真正让他们与众不同的地方是什么？

What do you really think separates them from everybody else?

老兄，这个问题我太喜欢了。

Brother, I love this question.

我真想给你点个赞。

And I just want to give you some props.

你提的问题都很精彩。

There are some amazing questions.

我很幸运，认识不少身家七位数甚至九位数的交易员。

So man, I've been fortunate enough to know $7.08 and 9 figure traders.

我觉得他们共同的一点，就是对交易的热爱。

And I think the one thing that they have in common is the love of the game.

也就是说，交易是他们的热情所在，是他们愿意不断钻研、始终充满兴奋感的事情，也愿意持续学习。

Meaning trading is their passion, is something that they want to keep learning about, is something that, you know, gets them excited and also willingness to keep learning.

我发现，赚得最多的交易员从不会说：‘我是亚历克斯，我赚了1600万，再也不用学什么了。’

So I found that the traders that make the most amount of money don't just say, hey, I'm Alex, I made $16,000,000 I don't need to learn anything anymore.

我什么都不用做。

I don't need to do anything.

因为我知道，每次我下单交易，对面都站着另一个人。

Because what I understand is that every time I place a trade, there's someone else on the other side of the trade.

你每次交易，其实都是在跟我对赌。

Every time you place a trade, you're trading against me.

对吧？

Right?

对我而言，最重要的一点就是，我一直愿意向别人学习，比如兰斯，他赚的钱是我五倍。

So what has been really, really important to me is I've always been willing to learn from other people, Someone like Lance that's made five times more money than me.

我每天都会看这些YouTube视频。

I'm watching these YouTube videos every single day.

我会发短信直接问他。

I'm reaching out to him via text.

我会向他提问题。

I'm asking him questions.

我一直在向他这样的人学习，还有《市场奇才》书里的那个叫菲尔的人。

I'm trying to learn from someone like him or another guy, Phil, who's in the market wizards book.

我经常跟杰克·凯洛格这些人交流，也一直愿意向赚得比我多的交易员学习，因为说实话，我还有太多东西要学。很多时候我觉得，那些经验不足或者自以为是的交易员，往往撑不了多久，因为他们觉得自己什么都知道。

I talked to him very often, Jack Kellogg and all these other people as well as I'm always willing to learn from traders that have made more than me because the reality is I have still so much to learn and I often feel like maybe inexperienced traders or traders that have too much of an ego do not last because they think they know it all.

但事实是，你一旦觉得自己已经全懂了，那其实你什么都没懂。

And the reality is the moment that you think you know it all, you actually know nothing.

所以我觉得，最顶尖的交易员不仅对交易着迷，还愿意学习，愿意放下自尊，保持谦逊，日复一日地精进。

So I think the most elite traders are not only obsessed with the game, but also willing to learn and also willing to drop their ego aside, remain humble and just continue to improve day to day.

挺有意思的是，直到今天，不管我赚了多少钱，我还是在看交易视频。

It's very funny because even to this day, no matter how much money I've made, I'm still watching trading videos.

我还是在听交易播客。

I'm still watching trading podcasts.

只要是跟交易有关的内容，我都会看，就是想找找还能从别人那儿学到什么新的东西。

I am still watching anything that has to do with trading as I'm looking for that next edge that I can learn from someone else.

这真是太棒了。

Oh, that's so amazing.

你知道吗？自从做这些访谈以来，我反复听到一个共同的主题，那就是热情。

You know, that's really is a consistent theme I've heard since doing these interviews is passion.

这正好也是我想问的，我看了你那么多访谈，最让我印象深刻的，就是你那种发自内心的热忱。

And that was my next question was that I've watched so many of your interviews and what I have seen that stands out to me is the passion.

很多交易员就像你说的那样，总觉得有个终点，到了那儿就不用再学了。

A lot of traders approach this, like you said, thinking that there's some kind of a finish line where they no longer have to learn.

说白了，就是变得懈怠了。

Essentially they get complacent.

觉得舒服了，就停下了。

They get comfortable.

但我跟余威聊过之后，他说，一旦你开始觉得舒服了，那就意味着你不会再进步了。

But then a conversation I had with Eddie Yu, he said, as soon as you start getting comfortable, you know, that's when you're not going to grow.

你得一直保持点不适感，因为真正的成长，恰恰发生在你不舒服的时候。

You have to always kind of be uncomfortable because that's where you learn to grow.

我觉得这话特别有启发。

So I thought that was really fascinating.

你能感受到你那份热情，还有那种不断追求自我提升的劲头。

And you can tell the passion that you have and just constantly wanting to improve yourself.

听起来就是这样。

That's what it sounds like.

这种态度能让你更上一层楼，这也是一个普遍的共性。

Just elevates you to the next level, and it's common theme.

说白了，你交易路上的血液，就是这份想不断突破的热情。

It's like the bloodstream, essentially, of your trading journey is just having that passion to take it to the next level.

这真是太好了。

So that's excellent.

非常感谢你分享这些。

Thank you so much for sharing that.

完全正确。

A 100%.

当你觉得自己什么都懂的时候，那你就真糊涂了。

And that's the reality is like the moment that you think you know it all, you're an idiot.

认真的。

Seriously.

你知道吗，我到现在还在不断学习，想想看。

You know, it's like, think about how much I'm still learning.

想想我赚了多少钱，可我还在不断学习。

Think about how much I've made and how much I'm still learning.

说来有趣，就像我说的，有人正在屏幕另一端跟我交易。

And it's funny because like I said, people are trading on the other side of the screen of me.

你得明白，我希望那些人越无知越好，越蠢越好，因为归根结底，他们越不努力，对我越有利。

So you got to think, I mean, I want those people to be as uneducated as possible, as stupid as possible, as dumb as possible because at the end of the day, you know, the less work that they put in the better, you know?

没错。

Yeah.

你觉得交易者是不是太关注赚钱，反而忽略了赚钱其实是做好交易的自然结果？

Do you think that traders end up, they focus too much on making money rather than the money part being a byproduct of just really good trading?

他们是不是没怎么重视复利增长？

And they don't focus enough on, you know, compounding the money?

我听说你现在已经开始把交易赚的钱转投到长期投资里，靠复利增值了，你现在还坚持这么做吗？

Because I've heard that you've kind of transitioned now into generating trade, taking the trading profits and allocating them more into long term investments to compound So is that something you're still focused on right now?

是的，绝对如此。

Yeah, definitely.

我赚到的每一分钱，都会尽量拿去别的地方投资，因为说实话，交易能让你发财，但投资才能让你真正富有。

I mean, any extra capital that I make, I try to invest it elsewhere because the reality is like, I say trading will make you rich, but investing will make you wealthy.

我的目标就是通过交易赚取收入，然后把这笔收入再投入到更长期的资产里。

So my goal is to generate income through trading and take that income that I generate through trading and then invest it into longer term assets.

说来有趣，昨天市场大跌，我反而趁机买进了一大堆股票，作为长期投资。

And it's actually funny because yesterday the market was down a ton and I ended up buying a ton of stocks yesterday for long term investments.

今天市场又反弹了，差不多涨了2%左右。

And today the market rebounded, you know, almost like 2%, you know.

太惊人了。

Incredible.

所以对亚历克斯，对所有正在听的人说，如果你刚起步，还在挣扎，怀疑自己能不能成功，甚至快要把车轮子都卖了……

So for Alex, for anyone that's listening right now, earlier in their journey, maybe struggling, questioning if they can really make it, maybe they're about to sell the rims off their car.

你会对他们说什么，觉得最能改变他们处境的话？

What would you tell them that you're really mad that make a difference for them?

你有什么建议可以给他们？

What piece of advice do you have

就是这个意思。

for them?

对。

Yeah.

关键是你到底有多想要成功？

I mean, question is how bad do you want it?

没错。

Right.

如果你只是嘴上说想要，却不愿付出努力，那根本没意义。

If say you want it, but you're not willing to put in the work, I mean, it's not worth it.

不是说买个标普500指数基金就完事了。

It's not just buy an S and P 500 index and call it a day.

但现实是，你得真正热爱这件事。

But the reality is that you to love the game.

你得对它着迷。

You have to be obsessed with it.

我不明白，为什么有人不愿意为改变人生而痴迷呢？

And I don't know why anyone wouldn't be obsessed with changing their life.

我不明白，为什么有人不愿意为自由而痴迷呢？

I don't know why anyone wouldn't be obsessed with freedom.

我不明白，为什么有人不愿意为一天赚到比医生、律师和工程师加起来还多的钱、彻底改变全家命运而痴迷呢？

I don't know why anyone wouldn't be obsessed that you can make more money than a doctor, lawyer engineer combined in one day and change your family's life.

对我来说，这种痴迷再简单不过了。

So that to me is a very easy obsession.

要我放弃巧克力蛋糕和冰淇淋，那可真难。

It's really hard for me to give up chocolate cake and ice cream.

你知道自己该怎么做。

You know what you have to do.

你知道减肥的关键是饮食和运动。

You know that the way to lose weight is diet and exercise.

但每个人都想找那种神奇的司美格鲁肽。

But everyone's always looking for this magical Ozempic.

没错。

Right.

说到底，交易就是件辛苦活。

At the end of the day, like trading is hard work.

交易确实很难，但它会成为你一生中最值得的辛苦，因为只要你做对了，它真能改变你的人生。

Trading is difficult, but it's gonna be the best hard work and difficulty of your entire life because the reality is it will change your life if you do it right.

我这十二年做交易赚的钱，早就超出了我以前敢想的这辈子能赚的总数，最棒的是，我才刚起步。

I've made more money in my twelve years of trading than I ever thought I would make in a lifetime trading, you know, and the best part is, you know, I'm just getting started.

我比别人多出的，就是时间。

You know, what I have over everyone else is I have time.

我有年轻，有体力，我才31岁。

I have, you know, youth, I have, you know, my age, I'm only 31.

也许咱们可以等到下一个十年纪念日再做这件事。

You know, maybe we'll do this on another ten year anniversary.

到那时候。

Be at

四十一岁。

a 41.

四十一岁。

41.

没错。

Yeah.

我喜欢这个奥兹皮克的比喻。

I like the Ozempic analogy.

听起来就像股票交易里的奥兹皮克一样。

It sounds like a book like the Ozempic of stock trading.

咱们就顺着这个说法继续说吧。

Let's get run with it.

那你现在觉得什么是成功呢？

So what does winning look like for you now?

你今年31岁了。

You're 31.

你已经做了十年了。

You've been doing it for ten years.

我在社交媒体上看到你，想问问你现在的目标是什么？

I mean, what are your goals that you're I see you across social media.

你依然这么有热情，这么活跃。

You're so passionate still, so active.

你的目标到底是什么？

I mean, what are your goals?

是啊，这确实是个好问题。

Yeah, I mean, question.

说实话，从刚入行到现在，我的目标已经完全不一样了。

So man, it's like, you know, just the transition of goals between starting my career and kind of where I'm at now is just so different, man.

差别太大了。

It's so different.

就像以前，我说过，我当年的目标就是一年赚一百块。

Like back then, like I said, my goal was to make like a $100 in a year.

对吧。

Right.

我一直有个这样的梦想，你知道的。

I always had this like kind of, you know, this dream, right?

你可能知道杰伊·雷诺吧？他有个机库，里面全是车，而车就是我的热爱。

I don't know if you know Jay Leno, but Jay Leno has like a, he has an airplane hangar filled with cars and cars are my passion.

车是我唯一真正热爱的东西，你知道的，每天交易完，上路兜风，棕榈树，阳光正好，天气舒服，车窗全开，音乐放得震天响。

Like cars are the only thing that, you know, after I'm done trading for the day, you know, going out on the road, palm trees, nice sun, nice weather, windows down, music blasting.

这才是让我放松的方式。

That's what relaxes me.

所以，车一直都是我特别热爱的东西。

So cars are something that I've always been passionate about.

我一直梦想着能拥有七天每天都不重样的车。

It's always been my dream to have a car for every single day of the week.

现在差不多半个星期，我已经有了四辆不同的车，想换哪一辆，随时都能换。

Pretty much at half the week right now, I got four different cars, but I could get every single car for the day of the week that I want.

但现实是，我的目标已经变了，不再那么看重物质了，毕竟我已经拥有了这一切。

But reality is now my goals have shifted from less of materialistic items because I've fortunate been fortunate enough to have all that.

表有了，车有了，房子也有了，现在我更在意的是交易时别给自己太大压力，毕竟交易这事儿，真能压得人喘不过气。

I have the watches, I have the cars, you know, I have the house, but now I've kind of shifted my focus to less stress in my trading, you know, because trading can be very stressful if you let it be.

我也慢慢学会多享受生活了，你想想看。

And I've also transitioned to kind of enjoying my life a little bit more too is, you know, think about it.

过去六七年，我天天早上四点就起床，从没断过。

I was waking up at 4AM every single day for like six, seven years nonstop.

现在我终于能多睡会儿，不用再四点醒了。

So I've been sleeping in a little bit instead of waking up at four.

我现在六点起床。

I wake up at six now.