被谋杀：瑞秋·汉森

我觉得，两个不同的人连续两晚进入同一个公寓，这似乎不太可能。

I feel like it seems so unlikely that two different people would enter the same apartment two nights in a row.

我知道。

I know.

我知道。

I know.

所以更可能是同一个人。

And so it's more likely to be the same person.

如果是同一个人，那就不可能是认错人了。

And if it's the same person, it can't be mistaken identity.

这就引出了我的第二个理论——马场理论。

Which brings me to theory number two, the horse ranch theory.

我要说明一下，这是在蕾切尔去世后，公众广泛传播的理论之一。

Now I wanna note, this is one of the theories that the public really ran with after Rachel's death.

但坦白说，以目前的情况来看，我认为这个理论可能性最低，原因我们稍后会谈到。

But to be, like, super upfront with everyone, at this point, I think it's the least likely for reasons we'll get into.

但我还是要把它讲出来，因为围绕这件事的背景对于理解蕾切尔去世时的心理状态至关重要。

But I am gonna lay it out because the context around it is really important in terms of understanding Rachel's mental state at the time of her death.

所以让我倒回到2022年6月枪击案发生之前，甚至早在2021年6月蕾切尔搬离她童年故居之前。

So let me rewind to before the shooting in June 2022, before Rachel ever even moved out of her childhood home in June 2021.

我们将追溯到蕾切尔的童年，特别是金所称的‘黑暗岁月’。

We're gonna go all the way back to Rachel's childhood, specifically a period of time that Kim refers to as the dark years.

当一位中西部的主妇兼母亲邦妮·舒尔茨在同一天告诉丈夫她想要离婚后突然失踪，所有人都怀疑是她丈夫对她下了手。

When a Midwest wife and mother named Bonnie Schultz vanishes the same evening she told her husband she wanted a divorce, everyone suspects her husband did something to her.

在《犯罪 Junkie》节目中，我们刚刚发布了关于此案的两集故事，由你来判断真相。

On crime junkie, we just released a two part story that lets you be the judge.

在第一集中，我会告诉你为什么所有人都怀疑邦妮的丈夫里克。

In part one, I'll tell you why everyone was suspicious of Bonnie's husband, Rick.

但在第二集中，我会向你们披露一些从未公开过的细节，这些细节可能会彻底改变你对这个案件的看法。

But in part two, I'll reveal to you some never before released details that might change your view of this case completely.

请在您收听播客的平台搜索《失踪的邦妮·舒尔茨》第一集和第二集，收听完整故事。

Listen to Missing, Bonnie Schultz parts one and two on crime junkie wherever you get your podcasts.

金和托德在2009年2月收养了当时年仅六岁的瑞秋。

Kim and Todd brought Rachel into their family in February 2009 when she was just six years old.

他们是有经验的寄养父母，长期参与寄养系统近十八年，大约有一百名孩子曾住在他们家。

They were experienced foster parents active in the system for about eighteen years, and there were about a 100 kids that passed through their home.

但在2009年，他们并没有主动打算再收养孩子。

Now in 2009, they weren't actively looking to take in any more kids.

因此，当瑞秋的社工联系他们时，这完全出乎意料。

So it was a surprise when Rachel's caseworker reached out.

但很快他们就意识到，这通电话并非普通的例行联络。

But it quickly became clear that this wasn't just like a routine call.

这是最后的无奈之举，因为瑞秋当时处境非常糟糕，急需立刻找到新家。

This was a last resort because Rachel was in a really bad situation, and she needed a new home, like, right then.

你知道，瑞秋的亲生母亲是在戒毒所期间生下她的。

You see, Rachel's bio mom had her while she was in rehab.

当母亲戒毒出所后，她和瑞秋搬去与一名男子同住，瑞秋以为他是父亲或祖父，但金说，这个男人其实是个与她们毫无关系的可卡因贩子。

And when she got out, she and Rachel went to live with a man that Rachel assumed was her father or grandfather, but Kim says that this guy was actually an unrelated cocaine dealer.

现在，拉切尔对那段时期的记忆非常少，但她告诉金，有一晚，她的亲生母亲说要去商店买点牛奶，然后就再也没有回来。

Now Rachel remembered very little from this time of her life, but she told Kim that one night, her birth mom said that she was gonna go to the store for some milk, and then she just never came back.

从那以后，就只剩下拉切尔和那个年长的男人。

And from then on, it was just Rachel and this older guy.

就在那段时期，人们似乎对一切都一无所知。

And it is like during this time that people seem to know nothing about.

那是黑暗的岁月。

These are the dark years.

就连拉切尔自己也记不清或不愿提起那些细节，但那时她还很小。

Like, even Rachel couldn't or wouldn't fill in the blanks, but she was little.

金只知道，有一天，拉切尔从幼儿园回家，发现和她一起住的那个人死在公寓的地板上，似乎是意外。

All Kim knows is that one day, Rachel came home from kindergarten to find the man that she lived with dead on the floor of the apartment, apparently an accident.

于是，五岁的拉切尔被迅速送往凤凰城的一家儿童危机中心，随后被安置在一对承诺要收养她的养父母家中。

And then five year old Rachel was promptly taken into a child crisis center in Phoenix and then placed into a foster home with a couple who promised that they would adopt her.

但六个月后，他们改变了主意。

But six months later, they changed their minds.

所以，就是那时拉切尔的社工联系了金。

So that is when Rachel's caseworker called Kim.

当拉切尔搬到汉森家时，她完全融入了进去。

Now when Rachel got to the Hansen house, she fit in perfectly.

我的意思是，那里还有另外九个小孩，拉切尔一下子就融入其中，这意味着总有其他孩子陪她玩。

I mean, there were nine other little boys and girls, and Rachel, like, fell right in the middle, which meant that there were always, like, other kids to play with.

而且她很喜欢新学校，但那些黑暗岁月带来的创伤是无法忽视的。

Plus she loved her new school, but the trauma from those dark years was, like, impossible to ignore.

拉切尔最终被诊断出患有反应性依恋障碍，这意味着，像你可能知道的那样，

And Rachel ended up being diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder, which meant that, like, forming I'm sure you know this.

与照顾者建立健康的关系对她来说极其困难。

Forming healthy relationships with caregivers was, like, incredibly hard for her.

有一段时间，似乎什么都无法突破，直到拉切尔自己提出一个意想不到的建议——马。

And for a while, nothing seemed to break through until Rachel herself suggested something unexpected, horses.

哦，像马术治疗那样。

Oh, like equine therapy.

没错。

Exactly.

像六岁的小蕾切尔很可能不知道马术治疗这回事。

Like, six year old Rachel likely didn't know that equine therapy was a thing.

对。

Right.

但金说，她就是被马吸引。

But, like, Kim says she was just drawn to horses.

她总是要求待在马旁边。

Like, she would ask to be around them constantly.

所以，金就想，为什么不呢？

So, I mean, Kim's like, why not?

是的。

Yeah.

从他们给蕾切尔买到第一匹马的那一刻起，一切都再也回不去了。

And from the moment that they got Rachel her first horse, there was, like, no going back.

她深深爱上了当马主的感觉，这帮助她建立了自信。

She fell head over heels in love with being a horse owner, and it helped her build confidence.

就像一个小女孩一样，她逐渐绽放光彩。

It just, like, blossom as a young girl.

马术女孩。

Horse girl.

作为马术女孩，我相信你懂的。

As as a horse girl, I'm sure you know.

听好了。

And listen.

这份热情一直伴随着她度过了中学和高中。

This passion stuck with her through middle school and high school.

她最终在16岁时提前毕业。

She ended up graduating early at just 16.

她获得了北亚利桑那大学的全额奖学金。

She earned a full scholarship to Northern Arizona University.

而在她空闲时间里，她一直都在骑马、照顾马匹、与马匹一起工作。

And all the while in her free time, she was still riding, still caring for, still working with horses.

先是照顾自己的马，后来别人也雇她来照顾他们的马。

First, her own, and then she was being hired by others to care for theirs.

高中毕业后，她决定正式化这些兼职，干脆自己创业做这行。

And after graduating from high school, she decided to make these gigs official by, like, starting her own business with them.

就像大学里的兼职吗？

Like a college side hustle?

不是。

No.

所以瑞秋最终根本没有去上大学。

So Rachel never ended up actually, like, going to college.

她报了名。

She enrolled.

她安排好了所有事宜。

She made the arrangements.

对吧？

Right?

她拿到了全额奖学金。

She got that full scholarship.

但她本打算开始大一的生活。

But she was going to begin her freshman year.

但在入学前一周，金说拉切尔出现了恐慌发作。

And then, like, a week before move in, Kim says that Rachel had this, panic attack.

突然间，离家这么远让她感到无比压力。

Like, being that far from home suddenly felt super overwhelming to her.

于是，拉切尔没有去上大学，而是告诉妈妈，她准备现在就开始自己的人生。

So instead of going to college, Rachel told her mom that she was ready to start her life now.

比如，她要自己租房，专心经营生意。

Like, she'd get her own place, focus on her business.

如果她真想要学位，以后再回去读也行。

Like, if she wanted a degree, like, she could go back and do that later.

但我的意思是，这么年轻就清楚自己想做什么，其实也很少见，是吧。

But, I mean, it's also pretty rare to, like, know what you want to do Yeah.

这么年轻。

That young.

所以当拉切尔收到昆恩克里克马场提供的居住和工作机会时，她显然无法拒绝。

So when Rachel got the offer to live and work at the Horse Ranch in Queen Creek, clearly, she couldn't turn it down.

这是她梦寐以求的工作，而且离家只有三十分钟车程。

This was her dream job, and it only took her thirty minutes away from home.

那后来事情是怎么变糟的呢？

So how did things go sideways?

听起来这件事是慢慢发生的。

It sounds like it happened gradually.

马场的主人莉兹·罗宾逊和阿曼达·克鲁根，由于律师的建议，没有回应我们，也不愿与金和托德的私家侦探交谈。

So the owners of the ranch, Liz Robinson and Amanda Kruggen, they didn't respond to us on advice of their attorney, and they wouldn't speak to Kim and Todd's PI either.

但我们的记者妮可成功联系到了他们的律师。

But our reporter Nicole was able to reach their attorney.

所以，我将概述我从尼科尔与他们律师的对话、与金的对话，以及我们从警方档案中能推断出的少量信息。

So what I'm gonna outline is everything I know from Nicole's conversation with their attorney, her conversation with Kim, and then the little we can glean from the police file.

听起来，牧场一开始的情况非常好。

So it sounds like things at the ranch started out great.

我的意思是，拉切尔觉得牧场主们对马其实了解不多，但她并不在意。

I mean, Rachel got the impression that the owners didn't necessarily know a whole lot about horses, but, like, she didn't mind.

毕竟，这是她的工作。

Like, this is her job.

她热爱工作，而且还能因此拿到报酬。

She loved to work, and she was getting paid to do it.

这简直太棒了。

Like, this was amazing.

但后来事情开始出问题了。

But then things started going wrong.

在警方档案中的一次采访里——我猜这是与阿曼达的对话，因为我只在一次地方看到她的名字没有被遮盖。

In an interview in the police file, which I'm gonna guess is with Amanda, like, I only guessed this because her name was left unredacted one time.

我是说，我不确定这是否是个错误。

Like, I don't if that was a mistake.

但在这次采访中提到，引号，拉切尔没有遵守关于马匹训练的协议，引号结束。

But in this interview, it says, quote, Rachel was not keeping up with the agreement regarding training the horses, end quote.

协议是什么？

What was the agreement?

尼科尔问了金，她给了我们这个例子。

Nicole asked Kim, and she gave us this example.

所以有一匹年轻的小马，拉切尔正在训练它用于骑乘。

So there was a young horse that Rachel was training for riding.

如果你了解马的话，你就知道，不能只是等它长到足够大，就跳上去指望能骑得动。

And if you know anything about horses, you know that you can't just, like, hop on one once it's big enough and expect to be able to ride it.

就像

Like

这是一个过程。

It's like a process.

这是

It's

一个漫长的过程。

a long thing.

是的。

Yeah.

就像，要让一个人能安全地骑上一匹马，需要相当长的时间。

Like, it it takes a while before someone can get on a horse and, like, get on a horse and it'd be safe.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但金说，显然马主们觉得蕾切尔进展太慢了。

But Kim says that apparently the owners felt like Rachel was moving too slowly.

他们希望她尽快骑上这匹马。

They wanted her to get on this horse, like, ASAP.

现在，蕾切尔告诉妈妈，她知道这匹马还没准备好，但她害怕如果拒绝，会惹上麻烦。

Now Rachel told her mom that she knew the horse wasn't ready, but she was afraid that if she refused, she would get in trouble.

所以她上了马，就在大约三十秒内，马把她甩了下来。

So she got on the horse, and within, like, thirty seconds, the horse threw her off.

她当时没有受伤，但这一瞬间基本上破坏了拉切尔和马场主人之间的信任。

Now she wasn't injured, but that moment created a trust fracture, basically, between Rachel and the owners.

从那以后，事情似乎就每况愈下。

And it feels like things just went downhill from there.

有一次，拉切尔造成了大约一万美元的马车损坏。

Like, there was this one time that Rachel, quote, caused approximately $10,000 worth of damage to a horse trailer, end quote.

还有一次，拉切尔被马踢伤了手指，需要做手术，这引发了她和主人之间关于她何时能安全返工的争执。

There was another time that Rachel needed surgery on her finger after being kicked by a horse, which led to a disagreement with the owners about when she could safely return to work.

但最终导火索发生在2022年5月。

But the final straw came in May 2022.

拉切尔帮忙促成了一笔交易，用牧场里的一匹马换取了三匹马，但只有一匹马送到了。

So Rachel had helped broker a sale, like one of the horses at the ranch in exchange for three other horses, but only one horse arrived.

由于这笔交易失败，叠加在之前所有问题之上，主人最终解雇了拉切尔。

And so because this deal fell apart, layered on top of everything else, the owners fired Rachel.

这正好是2022年5月24日左右。

And so this is right around 05/24/2022.

这对拉切尔的心理健康造成了巨大影响。

And this took a huge toll on Rachel's mental health.

警方报告中详细描述了一起事件：5月27日，也就是三天后，拉切尔带着手枪开车前往塞多纳，并打电话给牧场主，告诉他们自己正考虑自杀。

There's actually an incident outlined in the police report that says on May 27, so this is three days later, Rachel took her handgun and drove up to Sedona, and she called the ranch owners, told them she was thinking about suicide.

幸运的是，他们拨打了911，警察及时赶到，阻止了她做出任何过激行为。

Thankfully, they called 911, and police were able to get to her before she did anything.

他们说服她自愿入住弗尔德山谷医疗中心接受治疗。

And they convinced her to check herself into Verde Valley Medical Center for treatment.

我想补充的是，压在拉切尔身上的压力并不仅仅来自工作。

And I wanna add that it wasn't just the job that was weighing on Rachel.

她和吉尔·梅特的关系也出现了问题。

She and Jill Mette were having relationship troubles too.

更糟糕的是，拉切尔入院治疗的第二天，她得知牧场主拒绝归还她的马匹达什，除非她支付5000美元——据称这是她在居住期间为达什支付的兽医费用、管理费等服务费用。

And to make everything worse, the day after Rachel was admitted for treatment, she learned that the owners of the ranch were refusing to return her horse Dash until they received $5,000 that Rachel allegedly owed them for services rendered to Dash while she was living on the property, like things like vet care, fees, stuff like that.

这些主人基本上给了瑞秋的父亲托德他们律师的电话，说：听着。

The owners basically gave Rachel's dad, Todd, their attorney's number, and it's like, listen.

你和他去解决吧。

Work it out with him.

听到自己的马被当作人质扣押，瑞秋决定必须尽快离开这个治疗中心。

So hearing that her horse was essentially being held for ransom, Rachel decided she needed to, like, get out of this treatment center ASAP.

她得把所有事情都处理清楚。

Like, she had to sort everything out.

马匹的归还、她与乔梅特的关系、以及现在她无处可去，必须搬回公寓——到了6月1日，我们就在这里了。

Dash's return, her relationship with Jomet, moving back to her apartment now that she had nowhere So to on June 1, we're now, like, right here.

这是她回来的第一天。

This is the first day she's back.

她办理了出院。

She checks out.

正如我们所知，第二天就发生了腌菜入侵者事件。

As we know, the next day we get the pickle intruder.

嗯嗯。

Mhmm.

然后之后，就发生了枪击事件。

And then after that, we get the shooting.

所以，我猜主人针对拉切尔的理论是什么？

So I guess what's the theory that the owners targeted Rachel?

基本上是这样。

Basically.

我说的是，这在我看来太牵强了。

And this this is I'm saying, like, it it's it's far fetched in my mind.

是的，尤其是他们自己打电话报了拉切尔的精神健康事件。

Well, yeah, especially when they were the ones to call 911 about Rachel's, like, mental health incident.

我知道。

I know.

但不知为何，这个理论在网上和新闻中都获得了大量关注。

But for some reason, this is the one theory that got, like, a ton attraction online and even in the news.

莉兹和阿曼达的律师表示，所有人都在Facebook上发帖，把他们的当事人名声拖进泥潭，指控他们谋杀了蕾切尔。

Liz and Amanda's attorneys said that everybody was taking to Facebook and, like, dragging his clients' names through the mud, accusing them of Rachel's murder.

人们开始给他们留下骚扰信息，甚至向调查人员举报他们。

People started leaving them harassing messages and, like, calling investigators about them.

我的意思是，这些女人危险吗？

I mean, are these women dangerous?

我是说，我有点跟不上思路了。

Like, I I I guess I'm, like, missing the jump here.

所以，根据我们找到的信息，她们俩都有犯罪记录，但大多是交通违规。

So, like, from what we found, like, they both have criminal records, but, like, mostly for driving infractions.

没有暴力行为。

Nothing violent.

好吧。

Okay.

金说，蕾切尔从未觉得在她们的牧场里有危险。

And Kim said that Rachel never felt like she was in danger at their ranch.

实际上是阿曼达和莉兹给了蕾切尔那把手枪，她带着它去了塞多纳。

It was actually Amanda and Liz who gave Rachel the handgun that she took to Sedona.

她们早些时候把枪给她，是出于保护的目的。

They gave it to her for protection, like, earlier on.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但由于围绕牧场主达什和这份工作产生了大量负面舆论，我想每个人都自然而然地得出了这个结论。

But because there was so much negativity swirling around the ranch owners with Dash and the job, everyone, I think, just kinda jumped to this conclusion.

现在，莉兹和阿曼达的律师说，她们俩都在谋杀案发生后的头几天内接受了调查人员的询问，并且因有不在场证明而被排除了嫌疑。

Now Liz and Amanda's attorney said that they both spoke to investigators within the first few days of the murder, and they were cleared based on alibis.

他还说，他认为警方的档案被过度删减了，我同意。

And he also said that he thought the police files were over redacted, which I same.

但如果是这样的话，如果莉兹和阿曼达真的一开始就清白了，那我本以为档案里会有一些能真正证明她们清白的线索。

But but in his case, if Liz and Amanda really were cleared right away, then I would think that there are lines that could actually, like, prove their innocence, like, in the file.

比如，为什么我们看不到？我想她们甚至

Like, why wouldn't we and I think they would even

看起来更好了。

look better.

是的。

Yeah.

由于文件被大量删减，莉兹和阿曼达一直受到公众的怀疑。

And with the files being so redacted, it's just keeping Liz and Amanda under public suspicion.

没错。

Exactly.

汉森一家有没有把达什要回去？

Did the Hansen's ever get dashed back?

我不想把规则强加得太死板。

I don't wanna, like, force the rule too hard.

是的。

Yeah.

没有。

No.

他们确实回来了。

They did.

所以利兹和阿曼达的律师说，费用已经支付，汉森一家得以恢复了原状。

So Liz and Amanda's attorney said that the fee was paid and that the Hansen's were able to get dashed back.

我觉得是在蕾切尔被杀后大约一个月。

I think it was, like, a month after Rachel was killed.

这让我想到了我的第三个理论——加里·贝利理论，也就是乔·梅茨的父亲。

So this brings me to my third theory, the Gary Bailey theory, aka, Joe Metz's dad.

什么？

What?

当一位中西部的主妇邦妮·舒尔茨在同一天告诉丈夫她想要离婚后失踪时，所有人都怀疑是她丈夫对她做了什么。

When a Midwest wife and mother named Bonnie Schultz vanishes the same evening she told her husband she wanted a divorce, everyone suspects her husband did something to her.

在《犯罪成瘾》节目中，我们刚刚发布了两部分的故事，让你来当法官。

On crime junkie, we just released a two part story that lets you be the judge.

在第一部分，我会告诉你为什么所有人都怀疑邦妮的丈夫里克。

In part one, I'll tell you why everyone was suspicious of Bonnie's husband, Rick.

但在第二部分，我将向你披露一些前所未有的细节，这些细节可能会彻底改变你对这个案件的看法。

But in part two, I'll reveal to you some never before released details that might change your view of this case completely.

在你收听播客的任何平台，收听《Crime Junkie》上的《失踪的邦妮·舒尔茨》第一集和第二集。

Listen to Missing, Bonnie Schulz parts one and two on Crime Junkie wherever you get your podcasts.

还记得我说过，瑞秋被解雇前后，她和乔梅特的关系出了问题吗？

Remember how I said Rachel and Jomette were having relationship trouble around the time she was fired?

是的。

Yeah.

当时很多紧张关系都集中在加里身上，也就是他父亲。

Well, a lot of that tension centered around Gary, his dad.

据所有人的说法，他和瑞秋关系很差。

By all accounts, he and Rachel did not get along.

乔梅特和他父亲非常亲密。

Jomet was extremely close with his dad.

妮可尔实际上为这一集采访了乔梅特的母亲阿娃。

And Nicole actually spoke with Jomet's mom, Ava, for this episode.

她说，乔梅特没什么朋友，因为他和加里几乎做什么都在一起，甚至让阿娃觉得她的另一个儿子很可怜。

And she said that Jomet didn't have many friends because he and Gary would just, like, do everything together, like, to the point where Ava actually felt bad for her other son.

起初，当蕾切尔和乔梅特在一起时，一切都很顺利，但他们的关系进展得非常快。

Now things were fine at first when Rachel and Jomet got together, but their relationship progressed pretty fast.

比如，他们相识八个月后就订婚了。

Like, eight months after they met, they got engaged.

随着蕾切尔和乔梅特的关系越来越亲密，加里就多了一个争夺乔梅特注意力的对手。

And the closer Rachel and Joe Mett got, the more Gary had someone to compete for Joe Mett's attention.

蕾切尔告诉她的妈妈金，她觉得加里对可能失去乔梅特感到不安，因此故意制造他们之间的矛盾。

And Rachel told her mom, Kim, that she felt like Gary was disturbed by the possibility of losing Jomet, so he intentionally would try to cause conflict between them.

更糟糕的是，就在蕾切尔和乔梅特关系迅速升温的时候，阿娃向加里提出了离婚——这其实是她早就想做的事。

And to make everything worse, right around the time Rachel and Jomet were getting really serious, Ava filed for divorce from Gary, something that she'd been wanting to do for a long time.

我可以带你去一个小插曲吗？

And may I take you on a quick side quest?

你从来不需要征得我的同意，当然可以。

You never have to ask for permission, but of course.

所以Ava在2015年告诉我们，她一直怀疑Gary在出轨。

So Ava told us back in 2015, she had been suspicious Gary was cheating on her.

于是她每天在他工作的卡车里放了一个录音设备，持续了一个月。

So she put a recording device in his work truck every day for a month.

他经营着一家园艺公司，花很多时间开车四处奔波。

He ran a landscaping business, spent a lot of time riding around his truck.

所以如果真有什么事发生，她知道这里就是她能发现线索的地方。

So if something was going down, she knew this is where she would catch wind of it.

女孩得到的不止是风声。

Girl got more than just wind.

她录到了Gary出轨的录音。

She got recordings of Gary on tape

是的。

Mhmm.

他和自己雇用的男员工出轨。

Cheating on her with the men he employed.

什么？

What?

是的。

Yeah.

于是她拿着这些录音去找加里，说：我知道你都干了些什么。

So she went to Gary with these recordings being like, I know what you've been doing.

我要离婚。

I want a divorce.

真的，你可以拿走一切。

Literally, you can have everything.

我只要孩子。

I just want the kids.

但那个该死的加里却说：那不是我出轨。

But freaking Gary, he's like, oh, that's not me cheating.

我知道你在录音，所以我故意演了这一切。

I knew you were recording, so I staged all of this.

我很抱歉。

I'm sorry.

我知道。

I know.

我们尝试了所有可能的方式联系加里参与这一集，但他从未回复我们。

We tried every possible way to reach Gary for this episode, but he never got back to us.

但我从艾娃那里得知，当她提出离婚时，加里竟然说要跟她对簿公堂。

But I know from Ava that in response to her request for a divorce, Gary apparently said that he wanted to take Ava to court over it.

为了避免失去孩子，艾娃发誓要一直和加里在一起，直到所有孩子都成年，这就带我们来到了2021年9月。

So not wanting to lose her kids, Ava promised herself that she would stay with Gary until all the kids were adults, which brings us to September 2021.

艾娃准备结束这段婚姻，于是她发短信给主教，想让他知道这件事。

Ava was ready to end it, and she texted her bishop to, like, let him know.

但她不知道的是，当她给主教发短信时，不小心建了一个包含主教和加里的群聊。

But what she didn't know is that when she texted her bishop, she made a group chat with bishop and Gary.

这简直是我最糟糕的噩梦。

That's, like, constantly my worst nightmare.

当加里收到那条短信时，他彻底崩溃了。

And when Gary received that text, dude lost it.

显然，他的性格发生了巨大变化，开始表现得非常古怪。

Apparently, he had this major personality shift, and he started acting really strangely.

他和艾娃开始分房睡，艾娃说她听说加里在全镇和教会里到处说她的坏话。

Him and Ava started sleeping in different rooms, and Ava said that she heard that Gary was bad mouthing her all over town and at church.

妮可确实和其中一位教会成员谈过。

Nicole actually spoke to one of these church members.

她叫珍妮弗·西蒙斯。

Her name's Jennifer Simmons.

她说加里的整个脾气都变了。

And she said that Gary's whole temperament changed so much.

他总是生气，不停地抱怨，人们开始称他为‘可怕的加里’，并千方百计避开他。

Like, he was just angry all the time and constantly ranting that they started referring to him as scary Gary and, like, avoiding him at all costs.

从那以后，事情不断升级。

And things just escalated from there.

2021年11月，有一天加里录下了自己闯入艾娃所住公寓的场景，疯狂指责她出轨，声称自己是去抓她正在发生性行为。

In November 2021, there was this one day where Gary recorded himself barging into an apartment that Ava was staying at, saying, like, awful things about how she was cheating on him and that he was there to catch her having sex.

要知道，艾娃当时穿着整齐，正在卧室里看电视。

Mind you, Ava was, like, fully clothed watching TV in her bedroom.

事后她报了警，但在那之前，加里已经把这段视频发给了他们全家以及教会的许多人。

And she called the police after this, but not before Gary sent the video to their entire family and, like, people from church.

一段她看电视的视频。

A video of her watching TV.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

老兄，这段视频里看起来最糟糕的只有你。

Dude, you're the only one who looks bad in this video.

可怕加里。

Scary Gary.

我知道。

I know.

所以在这起事件之后，Ava获得了针对他的保护令。

So after this incident, that's when Ava got an order of protection against him.

然后在十二月，Hanson一家不得不把Gary赶出家门，因为他在饭桌上对Ava说了那些话。

Then in December, there was an instance where the Hansons actually had to kick Gary out of their home because of the way he was speaking about Ava at their dinner table.

那是他第一次，也是唯一一次去他们家。

That was like the first and only time that he was ever in their house.

就在那之后，Joe向Rachel求婚了，这显然让Gary更加失控了。

And right after that, Joe met proposed to Rachel, which apparently just, like, sent Gary off even more.

他开始在心里把这两个女人混淆在一起。

He started conflating the two women in his head.

Eva说，他开始叫Eva为Rachel，叫Rachel为Eva。

Eva said that he started calling Eva Rachel and Rachel Eva.

根据Kim所说接下来发生的事，事情似乎终于到了爆发的边缘。

And according to what Kim said happened next, it sounds like things might have finally come to a head.

2022年4月27日，这距离拉切尔被谋杀仅一个多月。

On 04/27/2022, this is, like, just over a month before Rachel would be murdered.

一切终于爆发了。

Everything boiled over.

当时拉切尔已经对加里不断插手她和乔梅特的关系感到忍无可忍。

So Rachel was at a point where she was, like, fed up with Gary inserting himself into her relationship with Jomet.

根据艾娃的说法，拉切尔给乔梅特发了最后通牒。

So according to Ava, Rachel texted Jomet an ultimatum.

要么是你爸，要么是我。

It is either your dad or it's me.

对话迅速升级。

The conversation spiraled.

乔梅特回消息说他厌倦了生活，并且有自杀的念头。

Jomet messaged back that he was tired of life and that he was experiencing suicidal thoughts.

拉切尔惊慌失措，试图打电话给他，但他就是不接。

So Rachel panicked, tried calling him, but he, like, wasn't answering.

连他妈妈的电话都不接。

Wasn't even answering for his mom either.

于是拉切尔开车去了加里的家，看看乔梅特是不是在那里。

So Rachel drove to Gary's house to see if Jomet was there.

他不在，但加里在。

He wasn't, but Gary was.

他当时正停在车道上的车里。

He was actually in his car in the driveway.

到了这个时候，拉切尔可能反而很高兴见到他，因为她知道，如果乔梅特会接谁的电话，那一定是他爸爸。

And at this point, Rachel might have actually been happy to see him because she knew if Jomet was gonna answer the phone for anyone, it was for dad.

是他爸爸。

It was his dad.

对。

Right.

但她让加里给他打电话，加里却说不行。

But she asked Gary to call him, and Gary's like, no.

他拒绝了。

He refused.

为什么？

Why?

加里说，你知道的，反正他根本没把自杀威胁当真。

Gary is like, well, you know, I don't like, basically, he said he didn't take the suicide threat seriously.

但拉切尔仍然当真了。

But, like, Rachel still was.

于是她用自己开的车堵住了车道，坚持不让加里离开，直到他打电话给儿子。

So she blocked the driveway with the car she was driving, refused to let Gary leave until he would call his son.

接下来发生的事很快发生了。

And what happens next happened fast.

加里倒车撞上了拉切尔的车，试图把她从车里拽出来但没成功，然后干脆放弃，直接开过前院扬长而去。

Gary put his car in reverse, backed into the car that Rachel was in, tried and failed to pull her out of it, and then, like, gave up and drove away right over the front lawn.

这件事发生后，拉切尔立即报了警。

Now when this happened, Rachel called police.

他们到达后不久，乔梅特就被找到了。

And then shortly after they arrived, Jomet was found.

他安全了。

He's safe.

但拉切尔，可以理解的是，完全被吓坏了。

But Rachel, understandably, is, like, totally shaken up.

是的。

Yeah.

根据警方报告，警察发现她站在加里的房子前哭泣，她向他们讲述了整个对峙过程，还包括另一个令人毛骨悚然的细节。

According to the police report, officers found her crying in front of Gary's house, and she recounted the whole confrontation to them, including another chilling detail.

她说，那天加里给她发了一条短信，内容是：‘如果我再看到你进我家，我就朝你脑袋开枪。’

She said that day, Gary sent her a text that read, if I ever see you in my house again, I will shoot you in the head.

她说，他早就一直在威胁她。

And she said that he had been threatening her for a while.

但这次事件后并没有提起任何指控，随后拉切尔就被杀害了。

Now no charges were filed after this, and then Rachel was killed.

那朱梅兹对这一切怎么说？

And what is Jumez saying about all this?

我的意思是，他站在哪一边？

Like, whose side is he taking?

他似乎左右为难。

He seemed to have been torn down the middle.

正如我所说，他在这集之后再也没有回过我们。

Like I said, he never got back to us for this episode.

但我从他妈妈阿娃那里了解到，这件事之后，他和蕾切尔的关系变得非常糟糕，甚至取消了婚约。

But what I do know from his mom, Ava, is that he and Rachel's relationship got so rocky after this that they actually called off their engagement.

然后，正如你所知，蕾切尔被解雇了。

And then, as you know, Rachel gets fired.

她的心理健康状况恶化了。

Her mental health declined.

她在那个机构待了一段时间。

She spends some time in that facility.

但别忘了，她第一晚外出时，本想去打扫公寓，却没有留在那里或去父母家，而是去了Ava那里，和Jomet一起过夜。

But her first night out remember, she goes to clean her apartment, but then rather than staying there or going to her parents, she actually went to Ava's to stay the night with Jomet.

Ava说，她们基本上就像是按了重置按钮。

And Ava said they basically just like, she calls it like hitting the reset button.

她们把所有事情都谈开了，关系变得非常好。

They talked everything out and got to a really good place.

所以那是6月1日吗？

So that's June 1?

6月1日。

June 1.

是的。

Yes.

Ava说第二天，6月2日

And Eva said the next day, June 2

腌黄瓜入侵者。

Pickle intruder.

是的。

Yes.

那天，她的一个女儿告诉加里他们重新在一起了。

That day, one of her daughters told Gary about the rekindling, that they're, like, back together.

哦。

Oh.

加里很生气。

And Gary is pissed.

还有关于6月3日的一件事我还没告诉你。

Then there is a part of June 3 that I haven't told you yet.

所以开枪当晚，乔玛和蕾切尔在一起。

So the night of the shooting, Joma is with Rachel.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

他一直待到午夜左右。

And he's there till, like, midnight.

有趣的部分来了。

Well, here's the interesting part.

他本来没打算走。

He wasn't planning to leave.

他离开前其实正在小睡。

He was actually sleeping shortly before he left.

他离开的唯一原因是接到父亲的电话，让他回家。

The only reason he left was because he got a call from his dad telling him to come home.

嗯。

Mhmm.

等一下。

Wait.

等一下。

Wait.

我的意思是，为什么偏偏在蕾切尔被谋杀的同一个晚上，他爸爸要在半夜叫他回家？

Like, why is he telling to come home in the middle of the night on the same night that Rachel got murdered?

警方记录里没有解释。

There is no explanation in the police records.

你能看到的。

That you could see.

是的。

Yeah.

但我们从别处找到了一个解释。

But we found one somewhere else.

还记得那个和加里一起去教堂的女子珍妮弗吗？

So remember that woman, Jennifer, who went to church with Gary?

就是那个给了我们‘可怕加里’这个绰号的女人。

The woman who gave us the scary Gary moniker.

谢谢，珍妮弗。

Thank you, Jennifer.

所以她说，加里在6月5日早上到教堂时，向整个会众解释了他为什么打电话。

So she said that Gary told the whole congregation why he called on the morning of June 5 at church.

显然，那个可怕的加里独自一人来到教堂，走上讲坛——你会喜欢这个说法——作见证。

Apparently, scary Gary showed up to church by himself, went up to the pulpit to, you're gonna love this phrase, give testimony.

他声称前一天晚上说：‘我打电话给乔·梅特让他回家，因为圣灵告诉我这么做，这救了他的命。’

And he allegedly said of the night before, quote, I called Joe Met to come home because the holy spirit told me so, and it saved his life, end quote.

所以他打电话让乔梅特回家，是因为他有了某种启示？

So so he called Jomet home because he had some kind of revelation?

这就是珍妮弗的说法。

That's what Jennifer's saying.

是的。

Yeah.

但我还是不明白他打电话的原因。

I still don't understand the reason for the call, though.

他只是说‘回家’吗？

Like, did he just say come home?

乔梅特仍然对父亲如此忠诚，以至于他二话不说就离开了。

And Jomet is just so loyal to his dad still that he leaves, no questions asked.

还是说，他当时说的是‘我知道要出事了，赶紧回家’，然后乔梅特就丢下未婚妻让她自己应付？

Or was it something like, I know something bad's gonna happen, get home, and then Jomet just left his fiance to fend for herself?

如果是这样，那这就太

Like and if that's it, like, this would have

就在前一天晚上有入侵者来过之后，他已经换了门锁。

been after an intruder had been there the night before When he changed already the locks.

对。

Right.

当她已经很害怕，可能需要有人在身边的时候。

Like when she's already scared and like maybe needs someone there.

而且，如果真的是圣灵在指引加里，那他为什么没提到拉切尔？

Also, if it's really the holy spirit speaking to Gary, why didn't he mention anything about Rachel?

珍妮弗明确说，她问过他这个问题，他回答说：‘我只收到了关于我儿子的启示，没收到关于她的。’

Literally, Jennifer said that she asked him that, and he said, I only received revelation about my son, not her.

是的

Yeah.

好的

Okay.

听好了

Listen.

教会里的人与加里交谈得越多，就越对他产生怀疑。

The more conversations people at church had with Gary, the more suspicious they became of him.

我们无法证实这一点，但詹妮弗说，她所在教区的许多女性都打电话报警，称他行为异常。

We haven't been able to corroborate this, but Jennifer said that many of the women in her ward called the police to report him acting strangely.

那意味着警方对他进行了调查吗？

So then that means the police looked into him?

事实上，在蕾切尔死亡当晚的警方事件记录第二页上，提到了他，而这个时间点甚至早于蕾切尔被宣布死亡之前。

I mean, he's actually mentioned on the second page of the police chronology report from the night of Rachel's death, which in the timeline is before Rachel even had been pronounced dead.

一名警员记录了蕾切尔数周前报告的加里的死亡威胁。

An officer noted the death threats from Gary that Rachel had reported weeks before.

但你听好了，根据金和阿娃的说法，直到今天，加里从未被传唤接受询问。

But get this, according to Kim and Ava, to this day, Gary has never been brought in for questioning.

后来妮可问，他们是怎么知道的，金说她当面问过警察局长，为什么加里从未被约谈。

Now Nicole asked, like, how they knew this, and Kim said that she had asked the chief of police face to face why Gary was never interviewed.

他回答说，因为我们不能强迫任何人说话。

And he said, because we can't force somebody to talk.

他们试过了吗？

Have they tried?

金说，警察告诉她，他们留过语音留言。

Kim said that the police told her that they left a phone message.

他们曾试图跟踪他。

They've tried to follow him.

他们通过各种方式联系过他，但他始终没有回应。

They've reached out in all these, like, different ways, and he's just never responded.

顺便说一句，我们也通过各种方式联系过他，但加里也从未回应过我们。

Much like, by the way, we reached out to him in all these different ways, and Gary has never responded to us.

我们试过电话、邮件和短信。

And we tried phone, mail, text.

尼科尔甚至去他在吉尔伯特的教堂找过他，但我们还是没能联系上他。

Nicole even stopped by his church in Gilbert, but we have not been able to make contact with him either.

我的意思是，如果你没什么好隐瞒的，为什么不澄清自己的清白呢？

I mean, if you have nothing to hide, why not clear your name?

尤其是根据阿娃的说法，加里不可能是开枪的人。

Especially because according to Ava, Gary couldn't have been the one to pull the trigger.

你什么意思？

What do you mean?

她告诉我们，案发当晚加里和他们的女儿在家。

So she told us that Gary was home with their daughter the night of the shooting.

整晚都在？

All night?

我不确定。

I don't know.

但这就是Ava告诉我们的。

But, like, that's what Ava told us.

你听好了。

And listen.

我不觉得她有理由要给这个人提供不在场证明。

I don't think she has a reason to want to give this guy an alibi.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

所以我觉得她不是在包庇他。

So I don't think she's covering for him.

事实上，她几乎是同一时间说，Gary不可能开枪，但同时也告诉我们，Gary过去经常谈论雇凶杀人。

In fact, basically, in the same breath, she was saying he couldn't have pulled the trigger, but she was also telling us that Gary had a history of talking about hitmen.

他教会的Jennifer也证实了这一点。

And Jennifer from his church backs this up too.

她们俩都告诉我们，他经常跟人说，如果你真想除掉某人，最好的办法就是雇一个很难被追踪的人，那样案子根本不可能破。

They both told us that he would go around basically telling people that if you ever wanna, like, off someone, the best thing to do would be to hire someone who is really hard to track, and, like, the case would just be impossible to solve.

酷。

Cool.

酷。

Cool.

让我稍微把这一点展开说说。

So let me just play this out for a sec.

如果加里雇了人去杀蕾切尔，那前一天晚上的入侵者该怎么解释？

If Gary hired someone to kill Rachel, where does the intruder the night before come in?

我所能推测的是，也许第一晚是一次试手，或者是个非常不专业的杀手。

All I can put together is that maybe the first night was, like, a trial run or, like, a super inexperienced hitman.

比如，那种会用消音器却还会踹门的人。

Like, one that would use a silencer but then kick down a door.

是的。

Yeah.

也许我的意思是，第一个根本就不是什么杀手。

Like, maybe I mean, maybe the first one wasn't even like a hitman at all.

也许第一个是加里认识的人，然后他们就进去了。

Maybe the first one was someone Gary knew, then, like, they go in.

意识到

Real realize

他们根本不是杀手。

they're not a hitman.

是的。

Yeah.

蕾切尔醒了，他们就说：没错。

Rachel wakes up, and they're like, yep.

对。

Yeah.

我搞砸了。

In over my skis.

但还带了泡菜。

But also brought pickles.

老兄，就是那个泡菜。

Dude, the pickle.

我简直迷上了这些泡菜。

I am obsessed with the pickles.

我试着查了一下，这会不会是个象征？

I was trying to look up like, was this a symbol?

这到底意味着什么？

Like, what could this mean?

我甚至让妮可去查清楚到底是哪种泡菜。

Like, I even made Nicole find out exactly what kind of pickles.

看起来像是标准尺寸的中等罐装泡菜。

Like, it seems like it's a medium sized standard jar of pickles.

是犹太风味的酸黄瓜，如果你想知道的话。

Kosher dill, in case you're wondering.

明白了

Got

就是它。

it.

而且看起来它们从未被打开过。

And it didn't look like they had been opened.

等等。

Wait.

所以金自己看到了那些泡菜？

So Kim saw the pickles herself?

天啊。

Oh my god.

我得告诉你这部分。

I have to tell you about this part.

所以我认为这很好地说明了为什么金，瑞秋的妈妈，嗯。

So I think this encapsulates so well why Kim, Rachel's mom Mhmm.

对调查和负责调查的人失去了如此多的信心。

Has lost so much faith in the investigation and those leading it.

所以金知道腌菜罐的事，是因为那天晚上那个人第一次进入蕾切尔的公寓后

So Kim knew about the pickle jar because after that person came into Rachel's apartment the first night

她对妈妈说：嘿，妈妈。

She's like, hey, mom.

发生了一件奇怪的事，而且他们还留下了腌菜。

This weird thing happened, and also they left pickles.

是的。

Yeah.

这里有个特别奇怪的细节。

Here's this super weird detail.

金说，在枪击案发生后的几天里，当她和托德被警察告知可以去取蕾切尔的物品时，他们打开门，发现那个腌菜罐就摆在厨房台面上。

Well, Kim said in the days after the shooting when her and Todd were told by police that they could finally go get Rachel's things from the apartment, they opened the door, and the pickle jar is just, like, sitting right there on the counter.

警察没有收集它。

Police didn't collect it.

我的意思是，当时金和托德以为警察至少至少会为它做指纹检测之类的，因为那时他们已经告诉警察那个前一天晚上进来并留下腌菜的人的事了。

I mean, Kim and Todd at the time assumed that they must have, like, at least, like, fingerprinted it or something because, like, by then, they told police the story of the person who came in the night before and left the pickles.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

所以他们以为警察只是做了最起码的工作。

So they're assuming police, you know, did the bare minimum.

是的。

Yeah.

完成了他们的职责。

Did did their job.

对。

Right.

比如指纹采集，看看是谁进了她的房间。

Like fingerprinted it to see what strange person was in her place.

对。

Right.

于是金就把这个罐子和蕾切尔的衣服一起带回家了，顺便说一下，那些衣服也被遗留在那里了。

So Kim just, like, took it home along with Rachel's clothing, which, by the way, was also left behind.

那个罐子在她的车库里放了一段时间，直到她最终决定把它扔掉。

And the jar sat in her garage for a while until she ultimately decided that it was time to throw it away.

但基姆现在对此感到后悔，因为她最近一次和警察谈话时，向他们问起了那个泡菜罐。

But Kim has come to regret that now because she told Nicole that in one recent conversation with police, she asked them about the pickle jar.

他们直勾勾地看着她，问：‘什么泡菜罐？’

And they looked right at her, and they said, what pickle jar?

你别逗我了。

You've got to be kidding me.

没有。

Nope.

他们说他们从未见过那个泡菜罐。

They said that they never saw a pickle jar.

你说从未见过是什么意思？

What do you mean never saw one?

公寓里根本没别的东西。

There was nothing else in the apartment.

那里 literally 就只有她的床和泡菜。

It was literally just her bed and pickles.

还有泡菜。

And pickles.

这让我们开始怀疑，也许我们疯了，或者这些年来，泡菜这件事被和其他事情混淆了。

Which this started to make us feel like maybe we were losing our minds or, like, the whole pickle thing got conflated with something else over the years.

比如，也许人们记错了。

Like, maybe people are mistaken.

我们就是搞不明白。

Like, we just couldn't make sense of it.

为什么在一间几乎什么都没有的公寓里，你却不带走那件可能是证据的东西呢？

Why would you not take the one thing that might be evidence in an apartment where you have barely anything to

可以利用的东西？

work with?

真的什么都没有。

Literally nothing.

所以我们出色的记者妮可仔细梳理了我们从吉尔伯特警局获得的所有资料。

So our amazing reporter Nicole combed through everything that we have from Gilbert PD.

文件、模糊的随身摄像头录像，其中完全没有任何关于‘腌菜’的提及，除了这位坚韧的小记者，真是上帝保佑。

Files, blurred body cam footage, and there are no mention of Pickles at all, except god bless this tenacious little reporter.

在一名警员走过蕾切尔公寓时，随身摄像头的末尾捕捉到一句几乎听不清的随口评论。

There is one barely audible offhanded comment caught at the very end of one officer's police body cam as he's walking through Rachel's apartment.

我这就放给你们看。

And I've got it here for you to see.

注意地上的血迹。

Watch the blood on the floor.

空荡荡的。

Very empty.

店铺关门时被忽略了。

Missed when the store was closed.

好吧。

Alright.

这有点奇怪。

That's kinda weird.

问这个有点奇怪。

Kinda weird thing to ask for.

没有酸黄瓜。

No pickles.

没有酸黄瓜。

No pickles.

现在到了难点部分。

Now here's the tricky part.

我不知道这段视频的日期，吉尔伯特警察局也没告诉我们日期。

I don't know the date of this video, and Gilbert PD wouldn't give us the date.

但肯定是在汉森一家把酸黄瓜罐子带回家之后，因为金说，在空荡荡的公寓里，这根本不可能被忽略。

But it must have been after the Hansons took the pickle jar home because Kim said that in the empty apartment, it was, like, impossible to miss.

但我们还是在这里。

And yet, we're here.

听好了。

Listen.

我不确定这个泡菜罐对这次调查有多重要，但现在我们永远无从得知了。

I don't even know how important the pickle jar is to this investigation, but now we will never know.

我的意思是，至少它本可以帮助识别第一个入侵者。

I mean, at the very least, it could have helped identify the first intruder.

是的。

Yeah.

顺便说一下，说到其他可识别的线索，当枪手踢开蕾切尔卧室的门时，留下了一个相当清晰的半脚印。

And by the way, speaking of other identifiable things, when the shooter kicked in Rachel's bedroom door, they left a pretty clear partial shoe print.

警方有对这个脚印做些什么吗？

Like, did police do anything with that?

意思是他们把门留在那里了。

That mean they left the door there.

他们又没把门带走。

It's not like they took it.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以我不知道。

So I don't know.

听好了。

And listen.

这是我向所有球鞋爱好者发出的呼吁。

This is my call out to all the sneakerheads.

来告诉我，你是否认出这扇门上的这个图案。

Like, come out and tell me if you recognize this pattern on the door.

但你可以看到，所有这些都让金担心，她永远无法知道是谁杀了她女儿。

But you can see, like, all of this like, this is what makes Kim worried that she'll never know who killed her daughter.

金说，吉尔伯特警方告诉她，他们已经穷尽了所有线索。

Kim said Gilbert police told her that they have exhausted every lead.

但就连私家侦探贾斯汀也不知道吉尔伯特警方到底在做什么，如果他们有在做的话。

But even Justin, the PI, doesn't know what Gilbert PD is up to, if anything.

他可能是我们接触过的人中与警方关系最密切的。

And he is probably the closest with the department of anyone that we spoke to.

据他所说，如果这个案子能告破，那一定是有人勇敢地站出来提供了线索，这也是金希望我们向犯罪爱好者们分享蕾切尔故事的原因。

According to him, if this case is gonna be solved, it's because someone courageous is going to come forward with information, which is why Kim wanted us to share Rachel's story with crime junkies.

即将迎来四年，金最大的恐惧是蕾切尔的故事会被遗忘。

Coming up on four years, Kim's greatest fear is that Rachel's story will be forgotten.

这正是她创立了‘蕾切尔救援’组织的原因——这是一个以女儿名义设立的狗和幼犬救援机构，旨在让蕾切尔的故事永存。

It's actually why she created Rachel's Rescue, which is a dog and puppy rescue in her daughter's memory to keep Rachel's story alive.

如果你们在亚利桑那州，正在寻找新的毛茸茸的家庭成员，我们将在节目笔记中提供相关链接。

We're actually gonna link out to it in the show notes if you're in Arizona and looking for a new furry family member.

金希望人们继续谈论蕾切尔，了解她的案件，更重要的是，如果有人知道任何关于她谋杀案的线索，请勇敢发声。

Kim wants people to keep talking about Rachel, to know her case, and most importantly, to speak up if they know something, anything about her murder.

所以，如果你掌握哪怕是最微小的信息，能够帮助推动蕾切尔案件向前发展，都有很多方式可以提供线索。

So if you have even the smallest bit of information that could help move Rachel's case in the right direction, there are lots of ways to come forward.

你可以致电吉尔伯特警察局：(480) 503-6500，或者如果你希望匿名，可以联系‘沉默证人’热线：(480) 948-6377。

You can reach out to the Gilbert Police Department at (480) 503-6500, or if you prefer to remain anonymous, you can reach out to Silent Witness, (480) 948-6377.

目前提供线索的悬赏金额已提高到2万美元。如果你觉得联系吉尔伯特警察局不太舒服，或者有困难，也可以联系亚利桑那调查协会的贾斯汀·延特斯。

The posted reward for information is now up to $20,000 And listen, if you feel more comfortable or have any trouble reaching out to Gilbert PD, you can reach out to Justin Yentes at Arizona Investigative Associates.

他的电话是（602）252-2474。

He's at (602) 252-2474.

你可以在我们的网站crimejunkie.com上找到本集的所有参考资料。

You can find all the source material for this episode on our website, crimejunkie.com.

你还可以在Instagram上关注我们：crime junkie podcast。

And you can follow us on Instagram at crime junkie podcast.

我们下周会带来一集全新的内容。

We'll be back next week with a brand new episode.

别走开，因为我们还有一些精彩内容。

And stick around because we've got some good.

好的，艾什莉。

Okay, Ashley.

考虑到今天这一集的大部分内容都基于我们一位出色的记者妮可尔的报道。

Given how much of today's episode was built on one of our amazing reporter, Nicole's Mhmm.

调查工作，我根本不可能错过这么精彩的故事。

Investigative work, I couldn't not pick this good story.

我觉得你会喜欢的。

I think you're gonna love it.

你好，Crime Junkie团队。

Hello, Crime Junkie team.

我有个小故事要分享，这或许更像是一封粉丝来信，但我觉得有必要让你们知道。

I have a bit of a story incoming, and this might classify better as fan mail, but I feel the need to share this with you.

我从节目早期就开始收听了。

I've been listening to the podcast since the very early days.

我记得当‘月度利润’和‘好事’环节刚推出的时候。

I remember when profit of the month and the good segments were introduced Mhmm.

从那以后，我就再也没按过暂停键。

And have never been able to press pause since then.

正因为如此，我注意到了‘妮娜效应’。

Because of this, I have noticed the Nina effect.

娜娜是谁？

What's the Nina?

是指我发誓的次数变多了吗？

Is that do I swear more?

自从犯罪爱好者团队扩大到足以聘请记者去打电话、敲门调查，而不再像早期那样仅靠制作团队承担时，制作团队——

Ever since the Crime Junkie team expanded enough to be able to have reporters making the calls and knocking on doors more than the production team could afford to in the early days, the production team, you.

我。

Me.

你们能够覆盖每个案件的信息量和精确度都发生了巨大的变化。

There has been a humongous shift in the amount and precision of information you guys are able to cover for each case.

在我心里，我把这称为‘娜娜效应’，因为每次我对你们发现的某些事情感到惊叹时，几乎总是伴随着‘感谢我们的记者娜娜’这句话。

In my head, I call this the Nina effect because every time I'm in awe of something that you guys manage to find out, it is almost always preceded by the words, thanks to our reporter, Nina.

稍微说点个人的，虽然我现在认同为非二元性别，但我从小被当作女孩抚养，一直对所有事情都充满好奇。

Getting a bit personal, even though I now identify as nonbinary, I was raised as a girl who always wanted to find out everything about everything.

我喜欢写作和提问，但常常被劝阻不要深究事情。

I loved writing and asking questions and was often discouraged from digging into things.