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Support for Criminal comes from BetterHelp.

今年心理健康宣传月，心理咨询变得更实惠了。

This Mental Health Awareness Month therapy just got more affordable.

BetterHelp现在已在多个州接入保险，符合条件的会员平均自付费用仅23美元，与联合健康、Cigna、Aetna等主流保险计划都已合作。

BetterHelp is now accepting insurance in many states with average co pays around $23 BetterHelp is in network with major health plans like UnitedHealthcare, Cigna, Aetna, and more with average co pays around $23 for eligible members.

赶紧去betterhelp.com/criminal填个问卷，看看你能享受多少保险覆盖。

Fill out the questionnaire and check your coverage today at betterhelp.com/criminal.

记住，是betterhelp.com/criminal。

That's betterhelp.com/criminal.

平均自付费用适用于符合条件的会员。

Average co pay is based on eligible members.

实际费用和报销比例因保险计划而异。

Actual cost and coverage may vary by plan.

把你那五磅的哑铃烧了吧。

Burn your five pound weights.

我叫罗伯特·阿尔赞。

I'm Robert Arzan.

我是个运动员兼健身教练，我要说，除非医生明确限制你只能用轻重量，否则你还在用那么轻的哑铃，简直说不过去。

I'm an athlete and fitness instructor, and I am telling you, unless you have been limited to lighter weights by a medical professional, they're honestly inexcusable.

你必须练重一点的，尤其是对在听的女同胞们。

You need to be lifting heavy, and I'm talking especially to the women out there.

想拥有紧致的手臂？

Toned arms.

你的身体到底能做什么？

What can your body do?

本周《Project Swagger》聊聊什么是真正的‘重’，以及怎么把这原则融入你的训练。

This week on Project Swagger, what heavy means and rules to bring into your routine.

现在就收听。

Listen now.

本集内容涉及多名儿童的死亡。

This episode discusses the death of several children.

请谨慎处理。

Please use discretion.

我们发现大便里有血，而且尿量也明显减少了。

We saw some blood in a stool, and we were also noticing decreased urine output.

那血便啊，说实话，你也能想象，真的吓人。

And but the the bloody the the bloody diarrhea was I mean, that was, as you can imagine, that was alarming.

这是达伦·德特维勒。

This is Darren Detwiler.

1993年初，他和妻子还有两个孩子住在西雅图以北的地方。

In early nineteen ninety three, he was living just North of Seattle with his wife and their two children.

一月底，他们16岁的儿子莱利病了，就送他去了医院。

In late January, their 16 old, Riley, got sick, and they took him to the hospital.

他们开始打点滴，我就坐在医院里，奇怪的是，医院正对面就是他的托儿所，我抱着他，他打着点滴，我几乎一直搂着他。

They started on IV fluids and, you know, just sitting there in that hospital, which strangely was across the street from his day care center, sitting there with him, holding him on my lap for much of this when he was, you know, with with his IV.

那时候心里还想着，没事的，这事儿能过去。

And there was a sense of, oh, this is gonna be fine.

我们只要给他大量补液，就没事儿了。

We're just gonna pump through full of fluids, and it'll be fine.

但一切发展得太快了。

But everything escalated so quickly.

莱利的状况一点也没好转。

Riley wasn't getting any better.

医生决定把他空运到西雅图儿童医院。

The doctors decided that he should be airlifted to Seattle Children's Hospital.

我想去直升机停机坪送他，但他们说院方规定不让去，我也能理解。

I wanted to go up to the helicopter pad, and they wouldn't you know, our protocols won't allow this, you know, and I could I could I could understand that.

真的，我能理解。

Believe me, I can understand that.

最离谱的是，那时候当地新闻已经得知了这事，拍下了他被抬上担架、送上直升机的全过程，还现场直播了。

But the craziest thing was that by this time, the local news had been, notified of this, and him being taken on a stretcher on the helicopter pad and loaded onto the helicopter was being covered live on the television.

所以他妈妈和我还待在他病房里，护士们正忙着帮我们办离院手续，好让我们开车下去。

And so his mother and I are still down in his hospital room where the nurses were basically processing us out so we could leave to drive down.

开车到儿童医院大概一个半小时。

It's about an hour and a half drive down to the Children's Hospital.

我们一转身，就看见当地新闻正在直播这个场面。

And we turn around, and we're watching this being covered live on the local news.

那是我儿子。

And there's my son.

他裹着一层银色的保温毯。

There he's under a silver space blanket.

我能看见他的脸。

I could see his face.

他被一个超大的泰迪熊压得小小的，但我一眼就认出那撮头发，还有他那双大得不可思议的眼睛——正被往直升机上抬呢。

I could he's dwarfed by this huge teddy bear, but I could see this tuft of hair, and I can see his eyes wider than you would ever imagine as he's being loaded onto this helicopter.

就在那个月早些时候，短短24小时内，有九个孩子带着和莱利一模一样的症状来到西雅图儿童医院。

Earlier that month, within a span of twenty four hours, nine kids had shown up at Seattle Children's Hospital with symptoms just like Riley's.

西雅图儿童医院的一位主治医生看到有好几个孩子都出现了这些症状，主要是肚子疼、呕吐、腹泻，还有带血的腹泻。

And one of the primary doctors at Children's Hospital in Seattle, when he saw that there were a number of children that had come in with these symptoms, mainly in their stomach and the throwing up, the diarrhea, the bloody diarrhea.

他立刻警觉起来，因为病人一个接一个地来，数量实在太多了。

He was immediately alarmed because of the number, and they kept coming.

这是作家杰夫·本尼迪克特。

This is writer Jeff Benedict.

医院的医生马上联系了州卫生部门，说他从业以来从没见过这种情况。

The doctor at the hospital got in touch with the state health department and reported that he'd never seen anything like this before.

短短二十四小时，就有九个孩子感染了大肠杆菌。

Nine sick kids with E.

这让他担心，还会有更多孩子陆续发病。

Coli in twenty four hours made him worry that there were gonna be a lot more.

那是个星期二，到了星期五，人数已经涨到三十七个了。

This was on a Tuesday, and by Friday, the number was up to 37.

有几个孩子已经被转进了重症监护室。

A few of the children had been moved to the ICU.

医生们正拼命想弄清楚到底发生了什么。

Doctors were trying to figure out what was going on.

他们早期能取得突破，是因为发现所有来医院的患者都是孩子。

One of the things that helped them early was the recognition that the victims who were showing up at the hospital were all children.

这本身就说明了问题。

And that tells you something.

这就像是在拼图，你得倒着往前找线索。

And it's like trying to solve a puzzle, and you start looking backwards.

这些孩子都去哪儿吃饭了？

Okay, where did these children eat?

没花多久，他们的注意力就转向了太平洋西北地区的快餐店，尤其是西雅图周边地区。

And it didn't take them long to start turning their focus to fast food restaurants in the Pacific Northwest, particularly around the greater Seattle area.

一步步排查下来，他们最终锁定了杰克在盒子里。

And step by step, they got to Jack in the Box.

杰克在盒子里是美国历史最悠久的快餐连锁之一。

Jack in the Box is one of the oldest fast food chains in the country.

37个生病的孩子里，有27个都去过那里。

27 of the thirty seven sick children had eaten there.

州里的首席公共卫生官员约翰·小林联系了Jack in the Box总部，说他们遇到了问题，可能是大肠杆菌疫情。

The top public health official in the state, a man named John Kobayashi, contacted Jack in the Box headquarters and said they had a problem, a potential E.

大肠杆菌疫情。

Coli outbreak.

那时候，大家对大肠杆菌了解多少？

At that time, what is known about E.

大肠杆菌？

Coli?

几乎一无所知。

Very little.

要是你当时随便在全美任何一个大城市的大街上拉个人问：大肠杆菌是什么？

If you took a poll at that time on on any public street in any major city in The US and asked, what is E.

大肠杆菌？

Coli?

大多数人肯定一脸懵，问你：啥？

Most people would just look at you like, what?

他们连这个词都从来没听说过。

They'd never even heard the term.

大肠杆菌

E.

是一种存在于人和动物肠道内的细菌。

Coli is a kind of bacteria that can be found in the intestines of people and animals.

大肠杆菌有很多不同的菌株。

There are many different strains of E.

大部分大肠杆菌其实对人体完全无害。

Coli, and many don't cause any harm.

但有几种菌株是致命的，其中就包括一种名叫

But some can be deadly, including one called E.

大肠杆菌O157:H7的菌株。

Coli o one five seven h seven.

在那之前，美国还从来没爆发过全国性的大肠杆菌疫情。

Back then, there hadn't really been a national outbreak of E.

大肠杆菌疫情。

Coli.

当时只有少数几例零星的病例，只有医学界的人研究过。

There'd been a few very small cases that had been studied by the medical profession.

但不管是普通人，甚至是整个医疗体系里的人，都对这种病没什么概念。

But most people, including the medical establishment, were were unfamiliar with this.

所以医院那阵儿乱作一团，他们根本搞不清楚自己面对的到底是什么。

And so the hospital is sort of scrambling around, but they they don't really know what they're dealing with.

当时他们仅有的少量认知里，就提到大多数人感染大肠杆菌，都是因为吃了没煎熟的碎牛肉做的汉堡肉

One of the few things that they did know was that most people at the time got E.

也就是生的或者没煮透的牛肉糜

Coli from eating undercooked ground beef.

当时的州流行病学家约翰·小林，就去问Box里的杰克这家连锁餐厅，他们的汉堡肉是怎么做熟的

State epidemiologist John Kobayashi asked Jack in the Box how they cooked their hamburgers.

餐厅那边答复说，他们严格按联邦规定的标准，把肉的中心温度加热到了140华氏度

They said that they made sure to cook them to an internal temperature of 140 degrees, which was the federal regulation.

但早在一年前，约翰·科巴亚ashi就已经把华盛顿州对碎牛肉的烹饪温度要求从140度提高到了155度。

But one year earlier, John Kobayashi had raised the Washington state required cooking temperature for ground beef from a 140 degrees to a 155 degrees.

而杰克在盒子里却刚承认，他们根本没按这个标准做。

And Jack in the Box had just admitted that they hadn't been doing that.

那时候，美国农业部在食品安全方面到底在干嘛？

At the time, what was the USDA doing in terms of food safety?

没干什么。

Not much.

要是拿现在的情况来看，你随便去美国哪个州的超市，买肉或家禽，包装上都贴着警告，告诉你得煮到什么温度、怎么处理才安全。

If you think about it in today's terms, you can go to a grocery store in any state in America, and if you buy meat or poultry, there's stickers on the outside that warn you to cook them to the proper temperature and handling instructions and all that.

就说感恩节买火鸡吧，外面清清楚楚写着：要是储存或烹饪不当，可能会让你生病。

I mean, at Thanksgiving, when you buy a turkey, there's warnings on the outside about, you know, things that can make you sick if you don't store it and cook it properly.

现在联邦政府把这些事做得挺到位，但那时候压根儿没有这些警示标签。

That's the federal government does that well now, but then those things didn't exist.

杰克在盒子里暂时关闭了州内全部66家门店，约翰·科巴亚ashi也正式发表声明，点名杰克在盒子里是这次疫情的源头。

Jack in the Box temporarily shut down their 66 locations in the state, and John Kobayashi issued a statement officially naming Jack in the Box as the source of the outbreak.

我是菲比·朱迪。

I'm Phoebe Judge.

欢迎收听《犯罪》。

This is Criminal.

到1月28日，西雅图儿童医院已经有两名孩子因大肠杆菌去世了。

By January 28, two children at Seattle Children's Hospital had died from E.

确诊的病例已经超过两百例。

Coli, and there were over two hundred confirmed cases.

Jack in the Box的首席执行官鲍勃·纳格特被召到华盛顿特区，在参议院作证。

Jack in the Box's CEO, Bob Nugent, was called to Washington DC to testify in front of the senate.

他当时是个挺年轻的CEO，自己也有两个孩子。

He was a, you know, relatively young CEO, and he had two children.

他有两个女儿。

He had two daughters.

他感到特别自责。

And he felt guilty.

他其实主动要求出庭作证。

He actually wanted to testify.

他不顾律师们的反对，坚持要站出来说话。

He wanted to talk against, you know, the better judgment of his attorneys.

他说了一些几乎等于自证其罪的话——也许他没想那么深，但本质上等于承认了Jack in the Box出了大问题。

And he said things that were essentially incriminating because he was I don't know that he thought about it this way, but he was basically acknowledging that Jack in the Box had screwed up.

鲍勃·纳根承认，他们在华盛顿的餐厅没达到州里规定的烹饪温度，并说：‘要是当初这项规定出台时我知道就好了。’

Bob Nugent acknowledged that their Washington restaurants hadn't been meeting the state mandatory cooking temperature and said, quote, I wish I had known about the Washington state regulation when it was established.

我真不知道。

I didn't.

他还提到，值得注意的是，那些在送到我们餐厅之前就被大肠杆菌污染的肉，

He also said, it is important to note that the contaminated meat that was infected with the E.

其实已经通过了美国农业部的所有检查。

Coli bacteria before delivery to our restaurants had passed all USDA inspections.

但他的本意是想承担责任，同时也在保护公司。不过说真的，作为记者，我觉得他太实诚了——意思就是，他说话太直白了。

But his intention was he was trying to take responsibility, and he was also trying to protect his own company, but he, you know, he just, when I say as a journalist, was too honest, what I mean by that is he was pretty raw.

我觉得那时候他已经明白，自己的公司捅了天大的娄子，那会儿他满脑子只想着怎么才能绝不让这种事再发生第二次。

I think by that point, he knew that his company had made an enormous mistake, And the only thing he was really focused on at that point was trying to figure out how to make sure that it never happened again.

达伦·德特威勒之前就听说过这次疫情暴发，可没成想他16岁的儿子莱利后来也染上了。

Darren Detwiler had heard about the outbreak before his 16 old son Riley got sick.

他们家从来没去Jack in the Box吃过东西，但之后才得知，哪怕只是和感染者接触，都有可能感染大肠杆菌。

Their family hadn't eaten at Jack in the Box, but they later learned that it was possible to get E.

哪怕只是和带菌的人接触，都有可能染上大肠杆菌。

Coli just from being in contact with someone who had it.

莱利被空运到西雅图儿童医院后，达伦·德特威勒和妻子开车赶了过去。

When Riley was airlifted to Seattle Children's Hospital, Darren Detwiler and his wife followed by car.

我算下来，我们全程大概花了两个小时才开到儿童医院，一路上车里特别安静。

It took us about, I would say, two hours in all to get down to Children's Hospital, and it was a very quiet drive.

到了医院之后，我们一开始还进不去，因为医生还没准备好让我们进去看他。

We got there, and we weren't initially able to go in because the doctors weren't ready for us to go in and see him.

那可是儿童医院里设备齐全的儿科重症监护室啊。

And we're talking about a full blown pediatric intensive care unit in Children's Hospital.

等医生和护士带我们进房间时，几乎都看不见他了。

And by the time a doctor and a nurse brought us into that room, you almost couldn't even see him.

他整个人都被各种电线、管子和监测仪给淹没了。

And he was completely dwarfed by wires and tubes and monitors.

这种情景，真的说不清楚。

And you can't explain that.

你怎么跟一个16岁的孩子解释这个？

How do you explain this to a 16 old?

根本没法解释。

You you can't.

我永远忘不了，他勉强抬起头，指着挂在架子上的输液袋，喊了声‘爸爸’——因为那袋子上有标记，里面还有液体，看起来真像一瓶饮料。

And I'll never forget when he kinda looked up and he pointed at the IV bag hanging from a pole, and he said, Baba, because in a way, with the markings and there is liquid in it, it kinda looked like a bottle.

我明白他的意思。

I could see that.

我们能轻轻帮他梳梳头发，告诉他我们在这儿陪着，但他们最后还是说，必须马上动手术，说是探查性手术，还提醒我们，拖得越久，损伤就越严重。

And, you know, we we were able to kinda brush his hair a little bit and tell him we're here for him, but they ultimately proceeded to say, we need to get him into surgery immediately, calling it exploratory surgery and warning us, you know, that the longer they wait, the more damage, you know, could could take place.

他们就把他推进手术室了。

And they they took him in for the surgery.

他醒过来的时候，已经插着呼吸机了。

When he came out, he was on a ventilator.

他们第一件事就是跟我们解释，说他已经用药物诱导进入昏迷状态了。

And the first thing they did is explain to us how he was medically induced into a coma.

后来主刀医生进来告诉我们，说他的肠道几乎全被病原体毁了，只能全切掉。

And then finally, a surgeon came in and explained that they had to remove the majority of his intestines because they were completely destroyed by this pathogen.

接下来两三周，我们天天被拉着看各种仪器，一个一个解释每个屏幕上的数字代表什么、该升还是该降，可眼睁睁看着他一天比一天差。

And we spent the next two to three weeks as we were being explained what every single monitor was and what was being measured and what this number meant and that they wanted this number to go up or they wanted this number to go down or whatever it was, watching them get worse day after day after day.

一开始我们只担心那些数值，后来就变成担心他的大脑缺氧了。

And what started as we're worried about these numbers became a now we're worried about the oxygen deprivation to his brain.

有天医生进来告诉我们，说大脑缺氧已经到不可逆的地步了，他们撑得比平时都久，但实话实说，他撑不过去了。

And there was a day where they came in and said that there was no turning back in terms of the oxygen deprivation to his brain and that they had already continued beyond what they normally would have in terms of keeping him on life support, and that, essentially, he was not going to survive.

达伦和他妻子找遍了能找的医生，可所有人都给出了同样的结论。

Darren and his wife consulted as many doctors as they could, but everyone came to the same conclusion.

于是他们同意撤掉莱利的生命维持系统。

So they agreed to take Riley off life support.

护士和医生把所有设备都撤了，然后用毯子把他轻轻包起来。

And the nurses and the doctors removed him from everything, and they they wrapped him up in a blanket.

我永远忘不了，他们让我坐在摇椅上，把他放进我怀里，我又能闻到他头发的味道，紧紧抱着他。

And I'll never ever forget being asked to sit in a rocking chair and having him put into my arms and hold him, and I could smell his hair again and hold him tight.

在我眼里、在我心里，他的胸口还在起伏，可实际上，已经没有了。

And in my eyes and in my mind, His chest was rising and falling, but it wasn't.

莱利·德特怀勒于1993年2月20日去世，住院二十多天后离世。

Riley Detwiler died on 02/20/1993 after over twenty days in the hospital.

马上回来。

We'll be right back.

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Some people like the routine of doing something small to take care of themselves every day.

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你甚至可以通过 Ritual 官网的互动地图，查到每种成分的来源地。

That means you can actually trace where specific ingredients come from through an interactive map on Ritual's website.

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I like following a very specific morning routine, and I take Ritual's Essential for Women multivitamin every morning at the same time with breakfast.

这样几乎不可能忘掉。

That way, I almost never forget.

别总想着追求完美健康，先从打好基础开始就好。

Instead of striving for perfect health, you can aim to support foundational health.

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访问 shopify.com/criminal 就行。

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记住，是 shopify.com/criminal。

That's shopify.com/criminal.

就在莱利·德特怀勒接受治疗的同一家医院里，一个名叫布里安娜·基纳的10岁女孩已经昏迷数周，躺在重症监护室，症状跟其他生病的孩子一模一样。

In the same hospital where Riley Detwiler had been treated, a 10 year old named Brianne Kiner had been in the ICU for weeks in a coma with similar symptoms as the other sick kids.

记者杰夫·本尼迪克特。

Writer Jeff Benedict.

从他们观察到的E.

And from everything that they were seeing with the way that the E.

大肠杆菌对她的攻击方式来看，很遗憾，她活下来的几率微乎其微。

Coli had attacked her, unfortunately, was that her chances of survival were very low.

医生们觉得，她大概是那个救不回来的孩子。

And it the doctors felt like she was one of the ones that they weren't gonna be able to save.

这是律师比尔·马勒的说法。

Here's lawyer Bill Marler.

我记得媒体当时天天报道，布里安娜·基纳昏迷的第37天了。

You know, I remember the media was covering, you know, day 37 of Brianne Kiner's coma.

医生告诉基纳一家，已经没希望了，建议他们干脆拔掉生命维持装置。

You know, the doctors were telling the Kiner's that there was no hope, that they should actually remove her from life support.

布里安娜的母亲苏珊娜在签署同意医院撤除生命支持的文件前，想先和牧师聊聊。

Brianne's mother, Suzanne, wanted to speak with her pastor before she signed the forms authorizing the hospital to take Brianne off life support.

她离开女儿的病房，去找个投币电话。

She left her daughter's room to find a payphone.

打电话的时候，她突然听到广播里叫了自己的名字。

During her phone conversation, Suzanne heard her name being called on the public address system.

她刚挂掉电话，医生们就朝她跑了过来。

And as she was hanging up, doctors ran towards her.

布里安娜醒过来了。

Brianne was awake.

当时大家都说这是个奇迹，毕竟从医生的角度看，这种事以前从没发生过。

And at the time, it was portrayed as a miracle because, you know, from the doctor's perspective, they didn't really have any precedent for this.

当然，当时类似的病例本来就少，但这次确实是个异常情况。

And granted, there hadn't been a lot of cases to look back on, but this was a big abnormality in the outbreak for sure.

但她的身体已经遭受了严重的损伤。

But the damage to her was pretty catastrophic.

那时候他们就知道，她已经失去了一些重要器官，以后根本不可能生孩子了。

Like, they knew at that point that a couple of her vital organs she'd already lost and that there would be things like she'd never be able to have children.

她当时还是个孩子啊，可已经能预见她以后身体发育肯定受阻了。

Mean, she's a child at this point, and you already know things like that, that her physical growth is gonna be stunted.

她这一辈子都得靠医疗照护了。

She's going to be under medical care for the rest of her life.

布莱恩的母亲苏珊娜意识到，她得找个律师。

Brianne's mother, Suzanne, realized she should get a lawyer.

她见了好几位律师，其中比尔·马勒还专门到医院来看她和布莱恩。

She met with several, including Bill Marler, who came to meet her and Brianne in the hospital.

那时候她已经在病床上躺了快四个月了，整个人虚弱得不行。

She had been, you know, in a hospital bed by then probably three and a half months, so she was incredibly weak.

你几乎都认不出她了，人瘦得缩成一团。

And you could kinda hardly see her because she was so small and shriveled.

她的身体简直像针垫一样，到处都是针眼。

I mean, this is you know, her body was a pincushion.

作为一个父亲，看到孩子那样，真的太吓人了。

It was a very I mean, as a father, it was a really frightening experience to see a kid like that.

那种感觉太压得人喘不过气了。

And it was so overwhelming.

我直接往后退，走出门，然后……说实话，我差点哭出来。

I just sort of backed up, walked out the door, and, you know, I was pretty emotional.

后来我还是跟基纳太太聊了，但我心里清楚，他们大概不会雇我——毕竟，有几个人会雇一个一见面就哭成泪人的律师？

And I wound up still talking to the missus Kiner afterwards, but I was pretty confident that they weren't gonna hire me because how many, you know, how many times you're gonna hire a lawyer that breaks into tears.

比尔也知道，自己在经验上比苏珊娜考虑的其他律师差不少。

Bill also knew that he didn't have as much experience as some of the other lawyers Suzanne was considering.

所以当苏珊娜打电话说要雇他时，他特别意外。

So he was surprised when she called him and said she wanted to hire him.

苏珊娜后来对杰夫·本尼迪克特说：‘我想找个人，能进屋后坐十五分钟，就静静地看着她。’

Suzanne later told Jeff Benedict, quote, I wanted someone who'd come in and spend fifteen minutes just absorbing her.

只有比尔做到了。

Bill was the only one that could look at her.

比尔·马勒开始调查布里安娜的案子。

Bill Marler began looking into Brienne's case.

是的。

Yeah.

我在计算赔偿金额。

I was working up damages.

你知道，一个没有大肠、糖尿病、长期透析，或者脑损伤的人，未来会有什么长期影响？这些都得搞清楚。

You know, what is the long term impacts of somebody with a no large intestine or who's a diabetic or who is on dialysis for as long as she was or suffered a brain injury.

得请一堆专业的医疗专家来评估她到底经历了什么，以及将来会怎样——这事儿复杂得不行。

All that had to be put together with complex medical experts who could, you know, opine about what happened to her, but also what the future held for her, which was obviously very complex.

布里安娜在医院住了好几个月。

Brianne stayed in the hospital for months.

她又做了一次手术，几乎得从头学起：认颜色、读书、走路。

She had to have another surgery and had to relearn almost everything, her colors, how to read, how to walk.

苏珊娜后来对记者说，布里安娜全身的肌肉都萎缩得厉害，连吃饭咀嚼都费劲。

Suzanne later told a reporter that Brianne's muscles all over her body had atrophied so much she struggled to chew food.

比尔在研究食品安全标准时发现，杰克在盒子里并不是唯一一家没遵守华盛顿州新规定的餐厅——那条规定要求牛肉末必须煮到155华氏度。

As Bill read about food safety standards, he learned that Jack in the Box hadn't been the only restaurant that didn't follow the new Washington state cooking temperature rule to cook ground beef to a 155 degrees.

州里大部分县根本没人管这事儿。

Most counties in the state weren't enforcing it.

在疫情爆发前几周，州卫生 inspectors 的检查报告里还写着‘记得煮到140度’这种话。

There were a number of restaurant inspection reports from the weeks before the outbreak where state health inspectors wrote things like, remember to cook to one forty.

比尔正式向杰克在盒子的律师团队发出了请求，要求提供所有与他们储存、处理和烹制肉类相关的内部文件。

Bill sent Jack in the Box's lawyers a formal request for any internal documents that had to do with how the restaurant stored, prepared, and cooked its meat.

我收到了成百上千箱的文件，真的。

And I got, you know, hundreds and hundreds of boxes of paper.

你懂的。

You know?

那时候还没互联网，还没电脑，更别说数据库了。

This was long before the Internet, long before computers, long before, the ability to do databases.

一辆卡车直接开到我办公室，卸下来好几百箱纸文件。

A truck rolled up to my office and dumped off literally several 100 boxes of paper.

我觉得他们以为我根本不会去翻那些东西。

And I think they felt that I never would go through them.

我和我的团队、其他律师一起开始翻这些文件，渐渐发现了一些情况——比如，我们知道华盛顿州已经提高了烹饪温度要求，但我们不确定这个信息到底有没有传到杰克在盒子里。

We started myself, my staff, the other lawyers started going through all the documents, and we started to see things like you know, no we knew that the state of Washington had increased cook times, but we didn't know for sure whether or not that information had gotten to Jack in the Box.

比尔花了好几个星期仔细翻阅这些文件。

Bill spent weeks poring over the documents.

在查阅质量保证部门的档案时，他发现了一份华盛顿州卫生部发出的通知，里面明确说明了牛肉必须达到的新烹饪温度标准。

While going through the files from their quality assurance department, he found a notice from the Washington State Department of Health describing the new mandatory cooking temperature for beef.

根据文件上的日期，杰克在盒子里早在疫情爆发七个月前就收到了这份通知。

According to the date on the document, Jack in the Box had received it seven months before the outbreak began.

杰克在盒子里选择继续用较低温度烹制汉堡，因为提高温度意味着要把煎制时间从两分钟延长到两分十五秒，那样汉堡就不再够快了。

Jack in the Box chose to continue to cook their hamburgers at the lower level because increasing the temperature would require increasing the amount of time the hamburger cooked from two minutes to two minutes and fifteen seconds, and that would have made their hamburgers less a fast food.

所以他们干脆无视华盛顿州的规定，继续沿用全国通用的标准。

And so they made the decision to essentially ignore the Washington state regulation and stick with the nationwide regulation.

比尔还发现了别的东西。

Bill found something else.

疫情爆发前，一位杰克在盒的员工曾向总部提交过投诉。

Before the outbreak, a Jack in the Box employee sent a complaint to corporate headquarters.

我觉得普通肉饼应该多煮一会儿。

Quote, I think regular patties should cook longer.

它们老是没熟透，顾客也老是投诉。

They don't get done, and we have customer complaints.

杰克在盒管理层回复说：感谢你为公司做出的贡献，特此赠送一支笔。

Jack in the Box management replied, quote, we would like to acknowledge the time and effort you have taken to contribute to the success of Jack in the Box by enclosing this pen.

这类案子一般很难找到决定性的证据。

Usually, you don't find smoking guns in these kinds of cases.

但比尔居然找到了两个铁证。

Bill found basically found two of them.

杰克在盒的律师叫鲍勃·派珀。

Jack in the Box's lawyer was a man named Bob Piper.

1995年初，他和比尔在西雅图一家酒店见面，还有杰克在盒的保险公司代表，一起试图跟布里安娜·基纳的家人达成和解。

In early nineteen ninety five, he and Bill met at a hotel in Seattle along with representatives from Jack in the Box's insurance company to try and negotiate a settlement for Brianne Kiner's family.

有意思的是，比尔其实没什么谈判经验。

What's interesting about Bill is he he didn't have a lot of experience negotiating.

你知道，保险公司那边请的律师可厉害了，而且人还特别多。

And, you know, the insurance companies have they have powerful lawyers, and and they have a lot of them.

他们天天干的就是谈赔偿这事儿。

And they do settlement stuff all the time.

所以，他面对的都是比他年长、经验更丰富的人，背后还有大公司撑腰。

So, again, he's negotiating against or with people that are also older than him, more experienced than him, they're backed by big companies.

比尔完全是孤军奋战。

Bill's kind of out there.

他一个人扛着所有压力。

He's really kind of on his own.

但比尔手里握着关键信息。

But Bill was armed with information.

他比对方更清楚案子的每一个细节。

You know, he knew more than they did about every aspect of the case.

他对E. coli的了解更深。

He knew more about E.

就是大肠杆菌。

Coli.

他懂它的运作机制。

He knew how it worked.

当时，这个州最大的人身伤害赔偿案才一千万美元。

At the time, the biggest personal injury settlement in the state was $10,000,000.

比尔希望为布丽安娜争取更多赔偿，一方面觉得她值得，另一方面也想让食品行业真正重视起E. coli和食品安全问题。

Bill was hoping to settle Brianne's case for even more, in part because he thought Brianne deserved it, and also he wanted the food industry to finally start taking E.

他觉得这案子能立个先例，让对方没法再忽视。

Coli and food safety seriously, and he thought this would set a precedent they couldn't ignore.

他开价一亿美元。

His opening demand was a $100,000,000.

马上回来。

We'll be right back.

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Naturium 让你觉得护肤本来该这么简单。

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With their help, you can give your skin the affordable luxurious glow it deserves.

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That's notorium.com/criminal.

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It's all about you.

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With a private wing to check-in and your own security channel at London Heathrow, you can glide from your car to their clubhouse, a destination in its own right in ten minutes or less.

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Onboard, you can treat yourself to your own private suite to stretch out in with lots of storage space, a lie flat bed, and delicious dining from beginning to end.

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律师比尔·马勒一开口就要求一亿美元赔偿，杰克在盒公司则回了个两百万的报价。

After lawyer Bill Marler made his opening demand of a $100,000,000, Jack in the Box countered with an offer for $2,000,000.

双方来回谈了几天。

They went back and forth for a few days.

后来他们开到一千四百万，那是1995年，搁那时候，这钱真不是小数目。

And we got to a point where they had offered $14,000,000, and and that's in 1995, and that's that's frankly real money back then.

但我拒绝了。

And I rejected it.

我记得调解员看着我，说：‘迈尔先生，比尔，我能跟你单独说几句吗？’

And I remember the mediator thinking of looking at me as like, mister Myer, Bill, can I talk to you for a moment?

他是个65岁的前联邦法官，盯着我，那眼神分明在说：‘你疯了吗？’

And so he was a 65 year old, you know, former federal judge looking at me like, what are you doing, you idiot?

说实话，那会儿真有点吓人。

And, you know, it was pretty frightening.

于是我回到他们那边的房间，跟他们聊了聊这事。

So I went back to the room where the were and, you know, talk to them about that.

我就跟他们说，你们得信我，我有信心你们能拿出更多钱来。

And I just told them they needed to trust me, that that I would I was confident that they would come up with more money.

比尔告诉那位前法官调解员，他最低不能接受一千六百万。

Bill told the mediator, the former judge, that he wouldn't accept anything less than $16,000,000.

那天晚上，比尔决定直接去找杰克在盒子里的律师鲍勃·派珀。

That night, Bill decided to go directly to Jack in the Box's lawyer, Bob Piper.

我去了他们还在开会的房间。

And I went to where the they they were still in their conference room.

我敲了敲门，那边问：‘谁啊？’

I knocked on the door, and I just and, like, who is it?

我就说：‘你他妈想干嘛？’

I said, Like, what the hell you want?

然后我就说：‘嘿。’

And and I said, hey.

酒店里有个叫Torchy's的酒吧。

There's a there's this bar in the hotel called Torchy's.

我说：‘咱们在Torchy's碰面吧。’

I said, I'll meet you at Torchy's.

我请客，喝鸡尾酒。

I'll buy I'll buy cocktails.

当然，那时候是九十年代。

So, of course, you know, this was the nineties.

那时候的人比现在更常这么干。

People still did that more often than they do now.

我们都聚在酒吧里，喝了几杯后，几个保险公司的家伙冲我大喊，说我是个贪得无厌的混蛋。

And we all met in the the bar, and after a few drinks, some of the insurance guys were yelling at me like I was like, you're a greedy bastard.

我当时那手机，你知道的，比现在大得多，样子也完全不同。

And I had my we you know, cell phones, They were much bigger and different than they are today.

我手机突然响了，还以为是我老婆打来的。

And my cell phone rang, and so I thought it was my wife.

我接起来就说：‘嗨，宝贝儿。’

And I picked up and said, hi, honey.

结果是法官。

And it was the judge.

他问：‘你人在哪儿？’

And he says, where are you?

我说：‘我在酒吧，跟那帮保险公司的家伙在一起。’

I'm like, I'm in the bar with all the insurance guys.

他立马说：‘比尔，你可不能跟他们说这个。’

And he goes, Bill, you cannot tell them this.

但他跟我说：‘我没法给你一千六百万，但一千五百六十万我能搞定。’

But he goes, I can't get you 16,000,000, but I can get you 15,600,000.

你答不答应？

Will you take it?

比尔说答应了。

Bill said yes.

这成了华盛顿州历史上金额最高的个人伤害赔偿案。

It was officially the largest personal injury settlement in Washington state history.

你为啥非得要这么高的数字？

Why did you push for such a big number?

主要是因为——她真的值得。

Primarily because I was she deserved it.

你懂的。

You know?

她以后可要一辈子受这些后遗症折磨了。

She she was gonna face, you know, lifetime complications.

而且很多事，你根本不知道自己不知道。

And and a lot of it is you just didn't know what you didn't know.

我就是怕，二十年后醒来，发现布丽安娜钱不够用，急需这笔钱。

And I had a fear of, like, waking up twenty years from now with Brianne not having enough money and needing it.

高中毕业后，布丽安娜曾在比尔的律师事务所当过一阵子文员。

After graduating from high school, Brianne spent some time working as a clerk for Bill's law practice.

现在她43岁了，比尔说她过得不错。

Today, she's 43, and Bill says she's doing well.

这次杰克在盒子里的食源性疫情，总共让七百多人生病，大多是孩子。

In all, over seven hundred people got sick in the Jack in the Box outbreak, mostly children.

四个孩子不幸去世。

Four kids died.

莱利·迪特韦勒是第四个。

Riley Detwiler was the fourth.

达伦·迪特韦勒和他当时的妻子，向杰克在盒子的母公司提起了过失致死诉讼。

Darren Detwiler and his then wife filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Jack in the Box's parent company.

1993年3月，双方以保密金额达成了和解。

It was settled in March 1993 for an undisclosed amount.

达伦·德特维勒后来成了食品安全专家。

Darren Detwiler eventually became a food safety expert.

他拿到了法律与政策方向的博士学位，专攻食品政策，被人称为美国最顶尖的食品安全倡导者之一。

He got a doctorate degree in law and policy, focusing on food policy, and he's been called one of America's leading food safety advocates.

针对杰克在盒子里的管理层，从未提起过任何刑事指控。

No criminal charges were ever brought against Jack in the Box management.

他们总共向受害者支付了约一亿美元的赔偿金。

They paid around a $100,000,000 total in settlements to victims.

疫情过后，他们在所有门店推行了全新的食品安全体系。

Following the outbreak, they implemented a new food safety system in all of their restaurants.

他们的销售额一度下滑了大约三成。

Their sales had dropped about 30%.

杰克在盒子里采取了一系列非常强硬的措施，彻底改革了他们采购、加工、配送和烹制肉类的整个流程。

Jack in the Box took some some pretty aggressive steps in revamping their entire protocol for how they purchased, processed, distributed and cooked their meat.

这件事之后，他们特意请了肉类行业的专家来帮忙，一起研究怎么才能彻底杜绝这种事再发生。

That came out of this case and you know, they hired people from the meat industry to come over to their side and work with them and figure out ways to, you know, they'd love to eliminate this kind of thing ever happening again.

所以我觉得，经历了西雅图那件事之后，麦当劳（Jack in the Box）反而成了当时吃饭最安全的地方之一。

And so, I think that Jack in the Box in the aftermath of this was probably one of the safer places to eat because of what happened in Seattle.

我们现在觉得理所当然的那些食品安全措施，很多都是因为这个案子才开始推行的。

And there were a bunch of things that we now take for granted in in our food safety experience that were started as a result of this case.

Jack in the Box 的一些新食品安全规范，后来被联邦政府直接采纳了。

Some of Jack in the Box's new food safety protocols were eventually adopted by the federal government.

美国农业部提高了肉类的强制性烹饪温度标准。

The USDA raised the federal mandatory cooking temperature.

从此以后，全美各州都必须把牛肉煮到155华氏度。

Now all states had to cook beef to a 155 degrees.

1994年，大肠杆菌

And in 1994, E.

被正式列为食品中的有害污染物。

Coli was officially classified as a contaminant when found in food.