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Crypto Rundown: Clarity Act Update: Did Banks or Crypto Win & What It Means for Bitcoin

Crypto Rundown: Clarity Act Update: Did Banks or Crypto Win & What It Means for Bitcoin

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This episode explores the recent developments in US crypto regulation, focusing on the Clarity Act and its implications for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and stablecoins. We discuss bipartisan efforts, industry reactions, and the potential for innovation in crypto products and rewards. $1 Trial Momentum Money Makers VIP https://www.thecryptomavericks.com/mm-vip-trial1763665474309?utm_content=MMTrial&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_source=Internal&utm_term=Description Check out Quince: https://quince.com/CRYPTO101 Check out Shopify: https://shopify.com/crypto101 Check out Mars Men: https://mengotomars.com Get my #1 altcoin pick for this month. Get immediate access to my entire crypto portfolio for just $1.00 today! Get your FREE copy of "Crypto Revolution" and start making big profits from buying, selling, Get immediate access to my entire crypto portfolio.. just $1.00 today! Go here to get access: https://www.crypto101insider.com/cryptnation-directm6pypcy1?utm_source=Internal&utm_medium=YouTube&utm_content=Podcast&utm_term=20250916 Get your FREE copy of "Crypto Revolution: Your Guide To The Future of Money". In this book, I reveal how to make (and keep) a fortune during this crypto bull run! http://www.cryptorevolution.com/free?utm_source=Internal&utm_medium=YouTube&utm_content=Podcast&utm_term=20250916 Chapters 00:00 The Clarity Act: A Game Changer for Crypto Regulation 04:20 Bipartisan Support and Stablecoin Yield Compromise 08:50 The Role of Banks and Industry Leaders 12:52 The Importance of Timing: Midterms and the Clarity Act 16:27 Innovation Opportunities in Crypto and Stablecoins 20:41 The Future of Crypto: AI and Active Participation 26:15 Market Movements and Bitcoin's Trajectory 28:55 Altcoin Insights and Market Dynamics 32:06 Pudgy Penguins and Emerging Trends 34:05 Ondo and Real World Assets 38:04 Ethereum's Accumulation and Future Prospects 41:09 AI, Security, and Financial Institutions 45:00 XRP's Growing Presence and Market Strategy Subscribe to YouTube for Exclusive Content: https://www.youtube.com/@crypto101podcast?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on social media for leading-edge crypto updates and trade alerts: https://twitter.com/Crypto101Pod https://instagram.com/crypto_101 *This is NOT financial, tax, or legal advice* Boardwalk Flock LLC. All Rights Reserved ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Fog by DIZARO https://soundcloud.com/dizarofr Creative Commons — Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported — CC BY-ND 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/Fog-DIZARO Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/lAfbjt_rmE8 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Our Sponsors: * Check out Mars Men and use my code Mengotomars.com for a great deal: https://mengotomars.com * Check out NPR: https://npr.org * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/crypto101 for a great deal: https://www.quince.com * Check out Shopify and use my code shopify.com/crypto101 for a great deal: https://www.shopify.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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When we started this podcast, it seemed like we had to figure it all out on our own scripts, set up filming schedules, logos.

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It was super overwhelming and every day seemed to introduce a new decision that needed an answer.

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刚开始做一件新事的时候,你的待办清单好像每天都在变长,新任务接二连三,很容易就把你整个人吞没了。

When you're starting off with something new, it seems like your to do list keeps growing every day with new tasks, and that list can easily begin to overrun your life.

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Finding the right tools that not only helps you out but simplifies everything can be a game changer.

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Shopify is the ecommerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all ecommerce in The US.

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From household names like us at Crypt Nation and the Crypto one one podcast, where you can get our book and merch to brands that are just getting started.

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Get started with your own design studio with hundreds of ready to use templates.

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Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style, accelerate your efficiency, whether you're uploading new products or trying to improve existing ones.

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Shopify is packed with helpful AI tools that write product descriptions, page headlines, and even enhance your product photography.

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Get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you.

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Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling or scrolling.

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That's shopify.com/crypto10one.

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Crypto one zero one fam, we're back again to talk about my favorite online shopping, and it is Quince.

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最近,我对每天穿什么更加讲究了。

Lately, I've just been more intentional what I wear every day.

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我以前也提过。

I've talked about it before.

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佛罗里达这天气太热了,我得仔细挑衣服,现在更倾向穿轻松舒适、但又不失得体的单品,尤其天越热越这样。

The Florida heat, I gotta be very intentional about my wardrobe, and I'm leaning into pieces that feel easy, comfortable, but still put together as the weather heats up in Florida.

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这样穿衣服简单多了。

It just makes getting dressed simpler.

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Quince就是我的日常首选。

Quince has my go to.

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面料质感高级,剪裁简洁利落,每一件都特别好搭。

The fabrics feel elevated, the fits are clean, and everything just works.

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而且我做播客实在太忙了。

And I'm so busy on the podcast.

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我不想把穿衣服想得太复杂。

I just don't wanna overthink it.

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Quince 的春季基础款一应俱全。

Quince has all the wardrobe staples for spring.

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Think 100% European linen shorts and shirts from $34, lightweight, breathable, and comfortable, but still look put together and clean.

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100% Pima cotton tees with a softness that has to be felt.

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他们的裤子也是,宽松舒适但又不失精致,去哪儿都能穿。

Their pants also hit the same balanced, relaxed, and comfortable, but still polished enough to wear pretty much anywhere.

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Everything is priced 50 to 80% less because they cut out the middleman from your favorite brands, but don't sacrifice on the quality.

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Quince 直接跟道德工厂合作,省去中间环节。

Quince works directly with Ethical Factories to cut out the middleman.

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所以你能拿到顶级面料,却不用付溢价。

So you're getting premium materials without the markup.

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朋友们,我之前一直跟你们聊Quince,就是因为他们的衣服真的超棒,购物体验也无可挑剔。

Guys, you heard me talk about Quince for a long time now, and it's because their clothes are awesome and the shopping experience is second to none.

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他们的线上商店特别有意思。

The online store is so fun.

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商品种类多得不得了,而且一直是Crypto One Zero One的优质赞助商。

They have so many items, and they've been a great sponsor to Crypto one zero one.

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So if you're thinking about getting some new clothes, go to quince.com.

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好了,各位。

Alright, everybody.

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欢迎回到加密货币动态。

Welcome back to the crypto rundown.

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加密监管听起来可能不怎么刺激,但上周末在华盛顿特区发生的《清晰法案》事件,正在悄悄改变整个行业。

Crypto regulation might not sound exciting, but what happened in Washington DC over the weekend with the Clarity Act is quietly changing the entire industry.

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因为这是第一次,我们终于有了明确的框架,来界定比特币、以太坊以及你们喜欢的所有加密资产——包括稳定币——在美国将如何被对待。

Because for the first time, we're starting to get real framework for how Bitcoin, Ethereum, and all your favorite crypto assets, including stablecoins, are actually going to be treated into The United States.

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而这一进程的走向,可能会释放大量机构资金和资本流入。

And depending on how this plays out, it could unlock massive institutional money and funds of flows.

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你可能觉得进展太慢了。

So you might think this is going slow.

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我们已经聊了挺久,但现在事情正在加速。

We've been talking about it for a while, but things are heating up.

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接下来,我们和朋友Brian一起梳理一下刚刚发生的变化。

So let's break down what just changed and we do with our friend Brian.

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Brian,欢迎再次做客节目。

Brian, welcome back to the show.

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今天我们直接切入Clarity法案的最新进展,不走寻常流程了,因为我觉得这次消息泄露出来实在太过重要。

We're going to dive right into the clarity market first thing today instead of going over our normal thing because I thought it was such a big update of this leaking out, leaking out.

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顺便提一下,如果你在听《Crypto 101》播客,那期我们聊过的Poly Market和Calci投注市场,上次我来的时候提到的那些机会,你们现在肯定已经赚到了。

And then of course, shameless plug, if you listen to the Crypto 101 podcast, you got some great alpha on that poly market, Calci, betting market dips on these odds that we gave out last time you were on.

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可别光说不练啊。

Pray to us, man.

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上期我们轻描淡写提过一嘴,现在看来,Clarity法案的消息真的开始落地了。

Another great, you know, little soft call out by us in the last rundown, but this Clarity Act news, is starting to come to life.

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现在事情终于有了实质性的进展。

We're starting to get some real traction here.

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真让人期待接下来会发生什么,咱们一会儿细聊,但毫无疑问,现在正是关键时候。

So excited, excited to see what happens, but we'll go over the details, but exciting times.

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对。

Yeah.

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你觉得最让你印象深刻的是什么?

What stuck out to you the most?

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对我来说,最明显的就是押注市场的赔率开始悄悄上涨,这总是让人兴奋。

The thing for me, obviously, the first thing was the betting market odds that started creeping up, which is always exciting.

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但更重要的是,消息泄露出来之后,很多共和党和民主党议员都在参与这项法案的起草。

But for the most part, it was the leaking out and it was a lot of the, you know, the Republicans, the Democrats that are working on the bill.

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在我看来,这是一项两党共同推动的法案,我刚查了一下。

It is a bipartisan bill in my opinion as I pull up here.

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抱歉,我的软件有点卡顿,不过《清晰法案》正越来越接近成为法律,尤其是关于稳定币的部分。

Sorry, my software is giving me a little bit of problem, but the Clarity Act moves closer to the law and stablecoins.

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稳定币是当时争论最激烈的话题,因为银行担心会出现存款外流——如果有人能通过持有稳定币获得高额回报,而这本质上和银行存款没区别,那银行的存款就会大量流失。

So stablecoin was the number one thing that was being, you know, debated or argued if you will, because stablecoin rewards, the banks were worried of deposit flights because if you could just give out large rewards for holding stablecoins, which is basically they were arguing the same as a bank account, they're gonna lose a lot of deposits.

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所以银行面临存款外流的风险。

So there was a deposit flight risk for the bank.

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因此各方来回拉扯了很久。

And so there was a lot of back and forths.

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如果我们先回顾一下整个事件的脉络,一开始大家都不太看好这个方向。

If we remember the storyline first, the first big we're not, we don't like where this is going.

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那是Coinbase的布莱恩·阿姆斯特朗。

It was Brian Armstrong from Coinbase.

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他说,说实话,我不太喜欢这个法案的措辞。

And he said, you know, hey, like, I don't like the markup of this bill.

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之后我猜肯定有人打了电话,也开了不少私下会议。

And then I'm sure some things were some phone calls were made, some meetings were held in back rooms.

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然后他态度突然转变,说这法案正朝着正确的方向走。

And then he he seemingly changed his tune and said it was going in the right direction.

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上周末我看到他发了一条推文,上面写着:‘通过吧。’

And I thought it was interesting over the weekend that I saw a tweet from him that said, mark it up.

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看来他是站到这边了。

So he's on with it.

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在我交给你之前,我觉得关键还是看谁赢了、谁输了,对吧?

I think from my perspective before I hand it off to you, it's always you know who won, who wins and who lose, who lost, right?

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谁会赢,谁会输?

Who's gonna win and who's gonna lose?

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我觉得,如果你非得说,我们本来就是加密圈的人。

I think I think if you have to, I mean we were the Crypto crew.

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我们是加密先锋,对吧?

We are the Crypto Crusaders, right?

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我们在这行待了这么久,感觉银行现在仗着势力说话,它们得到的好处可能比普通散户要多得多。

We've been here for a long long time and you know it feels like the banks are swinging their weight and the banks are getting a little bit more than what they are more of a win maybe than the larger retail audience.

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我一直说,这些回报本该更给力才对。

Because I've always said like, hey, these these rewards should be great.

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我早就对转账这事牢骚不断了,钱转来转去要两三天,银行账户里却连个利息都没有。

Like I I've complained nonstop about, you know, wiring money and how it takes two to three days and how you get literally nothing in your bank.

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你存的钱在银行里一毛钱利息没有,可你去申请房贷时,银行又把这钱贷给你,还用着准备金制度,一块钱能撬出十倍来。

You know, you get no interest on the money in your bank account and then you go to your local bank for your mortgage and they just loan it back to you and there's fractional reserves and they take $1 and times it by 10.

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这些我们都聊过好多次了。

We've all covered that.

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所以感觉银行这边占了点上风,但我相信还是有创新的空间。

So it feels like the banks are winning a little bit here, but I think there's a lane for innovation.

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所以我还是想聚焦在积极的一面。

And so I wanna stick to the positive here.

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我看到一些评价褒贬不一。

I saw mixed reviews.

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大多数人对它评价还不错,不过也有少数人,我待会儿找条推文给你看,有人明确说不喜欢。

I think most people were pretty positive on it, but there were some, I'll pull up a tweet later of somebody who said he wasn't a fan of it.

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我觉得还是有创新的空间。

I think there's lane for innovation.

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这个方向未必特别清晰,但确实有空间去优化这些所谓的‘主动奖励’,让愿意参与的人能得到回报。

I don't think that lane's super clear, but there's lane for innovation to make these quote unquote active rewards to give back to, you know, people that wanna participate.

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那你觉得最让你印象深刻的是什么?

But what what stuck out to you the most?

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对。

Yeah.

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这个更新真的很令人兴奋,蒂沃,就像你说的那样。

It really exciting update, Tivo, as you said.

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我记得这事大概是周五发生的,那时候相关说法就开始慢慢泄露出来了。

And, so I think this happened what, like Friday, we started to get the language was leaking out.

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是共和党的参议员蒂利斯,还有来自马里兰州的民主党参议员布鲁克斯,他们经过长达数月的谈判,终于发布了这份稳定币收益的折中方案,而且银行方面也全程参与了这些谈判。

It was a Republican a senator for Republican Tillis and then a Democrat senator, also Brooks, from Maryland, and they released this final stablecoin yield compromise after literally months of talks, and banks were at the table for these talks.

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他们可不是旁观者,对这些条款的内容早就有数了。

It's not like they weren't involved and they didn't know some of this language.

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所以这份方案的核心内容就是,禁止单纯持有稳定币就能获得被动收益或利息。

So what this language basically said is it's gonna ban passive deposit like yield interest paid for just holding stablecoins.

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这对银行来说是个胜利。

So that's a win for the banks.

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银行不希望你只是把USDC放着不动,还能躺着赚收益。

The banks don't want you to just hold USDC doing nothing in earning yield.

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从加密货币这一方来看,我们愿意在这一点上做出妥协。

And okay, we're gonna compromise on that from a crypto side of things.

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这对银行来说是个大胜利,大家得明白,这确实是银行的一大胜利,但这段话也允许基于实际使用的奖励机制。

That's a win for the banks and people need to realize that that's that's a pretty big win for the banks, but it also says in that language, that allows activity based rewards tied to real usage.

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比如支付吗?

So is that payments?

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还是交易?

Is that trading?

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或者是转账?

Is that transfers?

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那staking呢?

Is that staking?

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这对加密货币来说是个胜利。

And that's a win for crypto.

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只要你使用加密平台就能获得奖励,这对加密领域来说意义重大。

So you're getting rewarded by utilizing the crypto platforms, which is a huge win for crypto.

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随后,币安、Circle这些加密行业巨头和行业协会立刻表示支持,现在正全力推动这项提案通过。

And then we had a lot of these crypto industry leaders, the coin bases, the circles, trade groups immediately endorsed it, and they're pushing hard for the markup right now.

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这真是个令人振奋的消息。

So that's really exciting news.

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而且,咱们得给自己点个赞。

And, hey, credit to us.

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我喜欢这么说,因为我觉得咱们完全可以多说几次。

I love saying that because I feel like we could say it a lot.

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几个月前我还聊过这事,记得那时候Jamie Crypto Diamond一直在说,想当银行就去当银行,结果Brian Armstrong在那个周一立马跑去见了特朗普,大家都说《清晰法案》快成了,可我当时就觉得,这事儿根本没戏。

Is that there was a couple months ago, I remember talking about it, and this is whenever, like, Jamie Crypto Diamond was, like, you know, firing off, Hey, if you wanna be a bank, be a bank, and Brian Armstrong went running to Trump on that Monday, and people were saying that the Clarity Act looked close, and I was like, Tivo, this doesn't feel close at all.

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说实话,当时大家还在争论稳定币的收益,但我们猜对了——很多人原本觉得《清晰法案》有七成概率通过,结果直接黄了。

I mean, this feels like they're they're arguing over the stablecoin yield, we nailed it because a lot of people were I think Clarity Act was like 70% to happen then, and then it crashed.

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那时候房间里气氛完全不一样。

It it just felt like there was a different vibe in the room.

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我现在相信,这事肯定能成。

I am now on the side that this is gonna get done.

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我可不是先知。

I don't have a crystal ball.

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我不确定。

I don't know.

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显然我上周通话后有部分利益在里头,所以我希望这事能成。

I obviously have some exposure from our call last week, so I'm hoping it gets done.

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而且我觉得这事必须得推进,因为我们想在加密领域当个创新者。

And I think it absolutely needs to get done because we wanna be an innovator in the crypto world.

Speaker 1

但这事儿挺不错的。

But this is pretty cool.

Speaker 1

几个月前我们聊这个的时候,我就觉得,关于稳定币收益,根本没什么妥协空间。

And when we were talking about that, a few months ago, I kind of was like, Hey, there's really no real compromise on this stablecoin yields.

Speaker 1

总得有人觉得吃亏。

You know, someone's going to kind of walk away a little bitter.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但我认为这已经是能达成的最接近的妥协了,因为你不可能光拿着就能赚收益。

But I think this is as close of a compromise as you can get because you're not going to get yield for just holding it.

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你得真正参与到协议里才行。

You actually have to be involved in the protocol.

Speaker 1

你得质押,还得做一些操作。

You have to stake, you have to do some things.

Speaker 1

我觉得这会很难吗?

Do I think that's going to be very difficult?

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我觉得不会。

I don't.

Speaker 1

我觉得在这些平台上质押会非常简单,能给普通散户带来很高的收益,我特别支持这一点。

I think staking on these platforms are going be very easy and it give a really great opportunity for retail and regular people to earn massive yield, and I'm all about that.

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这也是我投身加密货币的主要原因。

And that's a big reason I'm in crypto.

Speaker 1

现在,我们跳到后面。

Now, fast forward.

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所以我们在一号和二号收到了这个公告。

So we get this announcement on the first and second.

Speaker 1

波利市场上的赔率简直直线上升。

Odds on Poly Market are absolutely skyrocketing.

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你看到昨天那份报告了吗?美国银行协会公开表示,相关措辞不够充分,我记得他们是这么说的。

And then did you see this report yesterday that major banks, the American Banking Association, they basically pushed back publicly and they called the language insufficient, I believe was the word.

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他们还警告说存在漏洞,可能让存款和贷款从银行流出,并承诺会提供详细的修改建议。

And they warned of loopholes and said it could pull away from deposits and loans from banks and promise detailed edited, suggestions.

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我读到这儿的时候就想,等等,银行不是从头到尾都坐在谈判桌前吗?

And I was reading that and I was like, wait, haven't the banks been at the negotiating table this entire time?

Speaker 1

现在连共和党和民主党都跨党派握手合作了。

And we have the Republicans and the Democrats kind of shaking hands across aisle.

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这种事从来不会发生,但他们居然达成了目前能有的最好妥协,我真的很兴奋。

That never happens, and they they kind of come out with a as good of a compromise as you can, so I'm excited.

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结果这时候美国银行协会和这些大银行跳出来,说:嘿,我们不满意。

Then we got the ABA and these major banks coming out and saying like, hey, we don't like it.

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说实话,这让我挺生气的,但事情既然这样了,也只能接受了。

Kind of pissed me off, not gonna lie, but it is what it is.

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还有,布鲁克斯,这两位是主要参与的参议员。

And then, and also Brooks, these are the two, main senators that are involved.

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一位是共和党人,一位是民主党人,今天他们直接发了推文,我觉得是推文,说他们 respectfully disagree,还表示他们会继续推进这项协议。

One's a Republican, one's a Democrat, stood today and they literally tweet, I think it was a tweet, they said, We respectfully disagree and called it basically like, Hey, we're moving forward with this deal.

Speaker 1

我们认为这基本上已经定型了。

We look at it as pretty much final.

Speaker 1

所以听起来他们不会重新打开谈判,接下来会交给两党协商小组继续推进。

So it doesn't sound like they're gonna reopen the deal, and it's gonna go to bipartisan negotiators moving forward.

Speaker 1

当然,接下来美国银行业协会那边还会陆续放出一些声音,说他们对措辞不太满意。

Now, of course, we're gonna get some more trickling out here from, you know, the American Banking Association, how they don't love the language.

Speaker 1

但就我个人而言,我觉得这事该进入修订阶段了。

But, personally, I think this goes to markup.

Speaker 1

我很高兴看到布莱恩·阿姆斯特朗出来表态,他们似乎对此并不反对。

I love when Brian Armstrong came out, and they seem okay with it.

Speaker 1

他们的首席法律官也出来表示,他们对这个方案基本接受。

Their CLO came out and said they seem okay with it.

Speaker 1

民主党人和共和党人都看起来对此没什么意见。

Democrats and Republicans on both sides seem like okay with it.

Speaker 1

连特朗普都说,一拿到《清晰法案》,他立马就签字。

And then even Trump said, Hey, right when I get the Clarity Act, I'm gonna ink that right away.

Speaker 1

对。

-Yep.

Speaker 1

所以我觉得这事快定了。

-So I think this is close.

Speaker 1

这纯粹是种直觉,但听说下周一之前就可能进入审议阶段。

It's just kind of a gut feeling, but it sounds like the markup is expected as early as next week.

Speaker 1

如果顺利通过,六月或七月就能上参议院全体表决,到时可能会达成一项不错的协议,我觉得这会是个重大推动。

And if that passes, it goes to the Senate floor in June or July, and then we might have a neat deal at the June, July, which I think will be we know it's a big catalyst.

Speaker 1

我觉得我们还没完全意识到,这件事会带来多大的影响。

I don't think we are gonna understand how big of a catalyst this is gonna actually be.

Speaker 1

我觉得这会是个巨大的突破。

I think it's gonna be huge.

Speaker 1

所以希望吧,听起来银行对这段措辞不太满意,但人家过去一百年可没少赚钱,给那些加密圈的人一点机会吧。

So fingers crossed, it sounds like the banks are not in love with the language, but man, they've been eating their cake for the last hundred years, you know, give the crypto bros a little love here.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

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我完全支持,尤其是我们这个节目一直免费提供给YouTube和播客听众。

No, I'm all in for getting love, especially for kind of how we've covered this as a program again, completely free for the YouTube and the podcast.

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你当时在看。

You were watching.

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我印象特别深。

I remember this very vividly.

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你记得吧,今年一月,布兰登和我正在直播,突然有消息出来,价格一下就跌到了三十多。

You were watching Brendan and I and some news came out here in January and and it dipped down here into the thirties.

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跌到了30。

It got down to 30.

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直播时是37。

It's like 37 on air.

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当时是直播的。

It was live on air.

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我记得这事。

I remember that.

Speaker 1

它也直播了。

It got live too.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

确实是直播的。

Was live on air.

Speaker 0

我们当时在看。

We're watching it.

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我们当时就说,我记得这一幕。

We we were like, oh, we were saying, I remember this.

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我们当时就说,哦,对啊。

We're like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 0

这事儿五五开。

It's a fifty fifty.

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我们在聊那个《清晰法案》。

We were talking about the Clarity Act.

Speaker 0

哦,五五开嘛。

Like, oh, fifty fifty.

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这是今年一月份的事。

This is in January this year.

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所以我们又说,五五开。

So we're like, oh, fifty fifty.

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今年肯定能搞定。

It'll get done this year.

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值得留意一下。

Something to watch.

Speaker 0

然后我和伯尼看了聚市场,价格已经跌到37了。

And then Bernie and I pulled the poly market and it's down to like 37.

Speaker 0

我们俩就纳闷,这到底怎么了?

And and we're like, oh, what's happening?

Speaker 0

我赶紧上网查了查。

And I'm looking online.

Speaker 0

说实话,我也不太清楚。

I I don't know.

Speaker 0

就看到一条负面新闻,别的啥也没有。

There's some like one negative headline on it.

Speaker 0

我记得当时就说,这新闻根本没理由让价格跌这么多。

And I just remember saying, I was like, well, I was like, that headline doesn't seem like that warranted for a drop.

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我当时就想抄点底,你当时也在看盘,说对,我也入手了一些,就在这次回调里。

Like I would pick some up here and you were watching live and you're like, yeah, I got some, I got some on that call.

Speaker 0

然后你得扛着从37一路涨到80%。

Then you got to ride down 37 all the way up to 80%.

Speaker 0

所以当时你趁机平仓,真是个明智的决定。

So boom, you could trade it out of that at the time, like great call.

Speaker 0

然后上周我们做播客的时候,又跌到42了。

And then again, we were on the pod, then it was me and you last week, we were back down, back down to 42.

Speaker 0

跌到42的时候,我就说,我入手了。

Back down to 42 and we said, hey, I'm picking up.

Speaker 0

如果你听了那期节目,就知道我们是真金白银跟自己的判断走的。

We got to if you were listening to that episode, we put our money where our mouth is.

Speaker 0

我们手上有年底的合约。

We have open contracts on end of year.

Speaker 0

我们就是在42的时候买了年底的,我甚至在8月1号之前就买了。

So we got the end of year at 42 and I even bought before August 1.

Speaker 0

我们买的是8月1号之前的那档合约。

So we bought the before August 1 contract.

Speaker 0

这些就是加密货币入门的基本操作。

So those are the Crypto 101.

Speaker 0

这些合约是为大伙儿准备的,也能把接下来的故事线都涵盖进去。

Those contracts are for the people and it's something that will cover the rest of of this storyline obviously.

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今天这番聊天真不错,咱们也没在推广什么。

Solid chat today for us not promoting.

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大家最近都怎么样?

How's everybody doing out there?

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如果觉得不错,给视频点个赞,分享给朋友吧。

If you could give the video a like, send it to a friend.

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如果是新来的,看看右下角。

And if you're new, check out the bottom right.

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那是我们的标志。

It's our logo.

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记得订阅。

Hit subscribe.

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也别忘了留言。

Hit the comments.

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告诉我们吧。

Let us know.

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去聊天区说说。

Hit the chat.

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跟我们说说你在哪里看直播。

Let us know where you're watching from.

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我们一直都很想知道大家都是从哪儿收看的。

We always love to know where everybody's tuning in from.

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好了,朋友们,来聊聊加密货币入门课。

Alright, Crypto one hundred one fam.

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我从不提起的一段往事,是上大学的时候。

A story I don't talk about at all is back in college.

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我当年在一级联盟打大学橄榄球。

I played college football at a division one level.

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那时候我想吃啥就吃啥,去健身房训练,按计划来,身材一直保持得很好。

Back then I could eat whatever I want, hit the gym, do the program, and stay in great shape.

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我那时候根本不用多想。

I didn't even have to think about it.

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现在年纪大了,三十多岁,情况完全不一样了。

Now that I'm older, in my thirties, it's a totally different story.

Speaker 0

说真的,我可最喜欢这种老爸身材了。

And nobody loves a good dad bod more than me.

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但夏天快到了,我在想是不是该稍微减点脂。

But with the summer coming up, I was thinking maybe I should lean out a little bit.

Speaker 0

我和朋友们就开始研究怎么才能做到。

And my friends and I started looking into how we could achieve this.

Speaker 0

我们不想走注射肽类或者补充睾酮那种路子,动不动就得打针什么的。

And instead of going down this peptide route or testosterone route where you gotta do all these needles and stuff, we didn't wanna do that.

Speaker 0

我们想找点更自然的方法,结果就发现了Mars Men。

We were looking for something more similar and so that's where we found Mars Men.

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年纪越大,肌肉流失越快,脂肪也越容易囤积。

Listen, you lose muscle faster and store more fat as you get older.

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而主要原因就是睾酮水平下降。

And a big reason for that is testosterone.

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大多数男性到了三十岁出头,睾酮就开始走下坡路,这让人更容易长胖,尤其是肚子上。

Most guys levels start dropping in their early thirties and it makes it easier to gain fat, especially around the midsection.

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你胖得越多,身体就把越多的睾酮转化成雌激素。

And the more fat you gain, the more your body converts testosterone into estrogen.

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这就成了一个怎么也break不了的恶性循环。

It just makes it a never ending cycle.

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但Mars Men是一种天然补充剂,能帮助维持健康的睾酮水平,让你的身体更高效地燃脂、长肌肉。

But Mars Men, it's a natural supplement designed to support healthy testosterone levels, helping your body burn fat and build lean muscle more efficiently.

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没有那些奇怪的兴奋剂,只有像通加达利、锌和硼这样的成分。

No weird stimulants, just ingredients like tonga dali, zinc, and boron.

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我有几个朋友一直在吃这个。

Listen, I have friends that have taken this.

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他们说,精力更稳定了。

They're saying they have more consistent energy.

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他们在健身房力量更强了。

They're stronger in the gym.

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注意力更集中了,体型也稍微紧致了一些。

They have better focus, and they're leaning out a little bit as well.

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食欲没那么强烈了,恢复得更快,整体状态好多了。

Less cravings, better recovery, just more dialed in overall.

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如果你感兴趣想试试,这个产品不需要打针、注射或者使用肽类物质,完全不用担心。

And listen, if you're interested in trying this, it's something that, again, you don't have to worry about needles and shots and peptides.

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就是一颗小小的药片。

It's just a pill.

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直接送到你家,还提供90天无条件退款保证,一点风险都没有。

It's delivered to you, and there's a ninety day money back guarantee, so there's no risk at all.

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超过91%的使用者反馈精力更充沛了,评价本身就说明一切。

Over ninety one percent of users report higher energy and the reviews speak for themselves.

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限时优惠,我们的听众可以享受终身五折、包邮,外加三份免费赠品,去 mengomars.com 就行。

For a limited time, our listeners get 50% off for life, free shipping, and three free gifts at men go to mars.com.

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去 mengotomars.com 可以享受五折优惠,结账时还有三份免费赠品。

That's men go to mars.com for 50% off, three free gifts when you check out.

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这款产品在亚马逊上也能买到。

And it's also available on Amazon.

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购买后,他们会问你是从哪里了解到这个产品的。

After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them.

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请支持我们的节目,告诉他们是由 Crypto 101 推荐的。

Please support our show and tell them Crypto one zero one sent you.

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再次提醒,限时优惠,我们的听众可以终身享受五折和免运费,外加三份免费赠品。

Again, for a limited time, our listeners get 50% off and free shipping for life plus three free gifts.

Speaker 0

去 mengotomars.com 了解更多。

Go to men go to mars dot com.

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去 mengotomars.com 结账时享受五折优惠,还有三份免费赠品。

That's mengo to mars.com for 50% off and three free gifts when you check out.

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另外,也去亚马逊看看,无论在哪里购买,都记得告诉他们是由 Crypto 101 推荐的。

Also, check them out on Amazon and wherever you purchase it, tell them Crypto one zero one sent you.

Speaker 0

下周我们要采访的克里斯·珀金斯,他即将做客我们的节目。

Chris Perkins, who we're actually going to be interviewing next week, I believe, is coming on the show.

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他说,克里斯·珀金斯以前是Coin Fund的成员,后来被富兰克林坦普尔顿收购了,现在他要担任他们数字资产部门的负责人,能请到他来真的很让人兴奋。

And he says that and Chris Perkins, former of coin fund that got bought by Franklin Templeton, he's gonna be their head of digital assets, which is super exciting to get him on the show.

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他说,如果这项法案的清晰度条款没通过,他也不担心,我们照样能挺过去。

It says that if the clarity doesn't pass, he's not worried we'll be just fine.

Speaker 0

他其实对法案里某部分内容不太认同,提了一些自己的看法。

And he had actually some thoughts of something in the the bill that he wasn't the biggest fan of.

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先给大家剧透一下,我们会请来业内人士深入聊聊这些事。

So just a teaser there of we're gonna have, we're bringing people on to talk about this.

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当然,我们做的行业动态梳理很有趣,但我们也一直努力邀请业内顶尖人物来分享。

Know, obviously the rundowns are super fun, but we always try to bring the best in the industry as well.

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这周我们录了几期特别精彩的访谈,先悄悄透露一下。

And we recorded some absolute bangers of a podcast this week, just a little teaser there.

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这些内容下周就会上线。

They'll be coming out next week.

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所以请继续关注。

So stay tuned.

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接下来我想说的是,为什么这件事必须现在就推进。

And then the final thing for me on this, is why it needs to get done now.

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我不是说它一定会通过,但关键是,参议院多数党在秋季的局势还不明朗。

I mean, I'm not saying that it will get done, but basically it's it's, the Senate majority, for the fall.

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等到中期选举结果出来,你根本不知道下一届会是什么局面。

This when this the election, the midterms take place, like you don't know what you're gonna be at on the other side.

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这是一项两党支持的法案。

It is a bipartisan bill.

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所以相比其他法案,它通过的可能性要大得多,我觉得。

So it has more, more chance of to get done than most, I think.

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不过,银河公司的亚历克斯·索恩提到,如果民主党赢下谢罗德·布朗的席位,他们就可能重新夺回参议院银行委员会主席的位置。

But if, if the, this was from Alex Thorne over at Galaxy, and he was saying that if the Dems take down Sherrod Brown, and they they take they could take back the, Senate Banking Chair.

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一旦委员会主席重回伊丽莎白·沃伦手里,那对加密行业可就不太妙了,毕竟她一向是加密的坚定反对者。

So if they take back the Senate Banking Chair, it'll go back to Elizabeth Warren, which obviously is a crusader against Crypto.

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而且她好像也不喜欢精神航空,把她管的那家公司搞得一塌糊涂——这话是双关。

And apparently, doesn't like Spirit Airlines too because she ran that one into the ground pun intended.

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我觉得这一点挺有意思的。

So I thought that was interesting.

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所以如果你对这个法案有点认同,我觉得你该支持它通过。

That's why it is something that it's if you kind of like it, I think you should root for it to pass.

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如果你在里头看到特别反感的内容,那当然就不该支持它通过。

If there's stuff that you absolutely hate in it, then yeah, you shouldn't root for it to pass.

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但我们现在真是时间紧迫了。

But it feels like we're up against the clock here.

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所以如果你想要明确的规则,想要超越眼下这种模糊状态,现在就是最好的时机。

So if you want some clarity, if you want clarity past now, now seems to be the time.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

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我几个月来一直在说,我们必须在中期选举前把这事搞定,我觉得这会是一个重大转折。

I I I've been screaming that for months now that we we need this done before the midterms, and I think it's gonna be a big move.

Speaker 1

我肯定要变成克里斯·珀金斯了。

I'm certainly gonna turn into Chris Perkins.

Speaker 1

我很喜欢你们这个播客的提议,Tivo。

So I love that call for the podcast, Tivo.

Speaker 1

只要你们一发布,我一定会听,也很想看看他对这事怎么看。

I'm gonna be tuning in whenever you guys release that because I'm I'm interested to see his thoughts as well.

Speaker 1

如果《清晰法案》没通过,大家千万别慌。

And if the Clarity Act doesn't happen, I I don't want anybody to freak out.

Speaker 1

我们会挺过去的。

Like, we're going to be fine.

Speaker 1

之前加密货币领域也遇到过不少问题,我们不都熬过来了吗?

You know, there's been a lot of other issues out there with crypto that we've just survived through.

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关键是得明白,这项法案对整个行业有多重要,我们就是想赶紧把它推过去——一旦通过了,说实话,咱们就真有明确方向了。

I think it's just to realize how big of a bill this is gonna be for our industry, and we just wanna get it done because once you get this bill done, we, no pun intended, but we have clarity.

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很多机构其实早就清楚了,接下来只会迎来更多流动性。

A lot of these institutions have clarity, and there's just gonna be more liquidity.

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你看看现在这情况,真的。

And dude, like, look at what we're at what's happening right now, dude.

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我上次看的时候,油价已经突破每桶一百美元了。

We got, like I think last I looked, oil over a $100 a barrel.

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伊朗那边到底在搞什么,谁说得清啊?

Who the heck knows what's going on in Iran right now?

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那些头条新闻来回翻,我都快跟不上了。

I can't even keep up with the back and forth headlines.

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大名鼎鼎的比特币就稳在八万美元左右,感觉咱们现在就是这么个状态——更别说迈克尔·赛勒那边干了啥了。

And big daddy Bitcoin is just chilling at, like, $80,000 So it feels like we're just, like, kind of like and then that doesn't even mention, like, what Michael Saylor's been doing.

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他的买入规模太大了,还在持续加仓,而且是用杠杆,这直接把卖压给吞了。

I mean, his buys, I mean, they're massive, and he's continuing to buy and with stretch and that's just eating up the sell pressure.

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卖家迟早得撑不住,到时候咱们就盼着《清晰法案》能赶紧通过。

The sellers are gonna run out and then we're gonna get this Clarity Act hopefully done.

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比特币卡在八万美元,油价却飙到每桶一百美元,咱们现在就坐在这儿。

We're sitting at an $80,000 Bitcoin with a $100 old barrel of oil.

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说实话,我真没料到会发展成这样,但我一向比较开放,今天比上周更看好了,对未来的方向我特别兴奋。

Like, I didn't really think this was gonna shake out this way, but I'm always the permeable, but I'm a little bit more bullish today than I was last week, and I'm super excited where we're heading.

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这个清晰法案对我来说简直是画龙点睛。

And this Clarity Act bill is like the cherry on top for me.

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咱们一起把它推下去吧。

Let's make it happen.

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咱们得把它搞定。

Let's get through it.

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我特别欣赏蒂利斯和布鲁克斯对银行业协会的回应,他们说:你们过去几个月一直坐在谈判桌前,怎么可能不知道发生了什么。

And I I I love the Tillis and, also Brooks, comment back to the banking association when they're basically like, you guys have been at the table for the past, like, months.

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你们心里清楚得很。

Like, you know what was happening.

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我们各有看法,但没关系。

Like, we agree to disagree.

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我们继续往前走。

We're moving forward.

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我是觉得,没错。

I'm like, yeah.

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我最不想听到的就是说我们要重新修改,但他们明确说了:不用改。

Like, the last thing I wanted hear is, like, we're gonna revise this, but they were like, no.

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我们对现在的进展很满意,而且会继续推进。

We like where this stands, and we're moving forward.

Speaker 1

所以我觉得,《清晰法案》的前景很不错。

So I I think these Clarity Act odds are in a good spot.

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对。

Mhmm.

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我也这么认为。

I think so too.

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我的实际行动已经证明了我的立场。

I I mean, I put my money where my mouth is.

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所以你知道该怎么坚持下去。

So you know how to stand on it.

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我觉得这事能成。

I think it gets done.

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而且这真是个令人兴奋的时刻,正是我们前进的方向。

And I think it's it is it's exciting times and it's where it's where this is going.

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我们刚请了区块链.com的联合创始人尼克来聊聊,他回忆起了过去。

We just had Nick carry on the co founder of blockchain.com and he was reminiscing.

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我们问他一个问题,不算剧透,就是小小地问一句:你最怀念早年的时候什么?

We asked him a question, not a spoiler, but like a little teaser of like, what do you miss about the old days?

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他说,最怀念的是那时候我们对抗全世界的感觉。

And he missed being like, you know, it was us versus the world.

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现在倒好,全世界都加入进来了,要办成事,得坐下来谈的也越来越多。

And now it seems like the world's joining us and there's a lot more negotiations and things that have to happen at the table to get things done.

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但这恰恰是市场成熟的标志。

But that's the result of a maturing market.

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而这也明显就是我们如今所处的位置。

And that's obviously clearly where we are.

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我觉得挺有意思的是,我们该怎么利用《清晰法案》呢?

And so I thought it was interesting, how can we play the Clarity Act?

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当然,你可以参与聚合市场和各种博彩平台,那些全球的投注市场。

Obviously you can play the poly markets and the cashies, the betting markets of the world.

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你可能错过了50%的涨幅,本来这波能让你翻倍的。

You probably, you missed your 50% and that could have been a double for you.

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但还有股票这边。

But then there's stocks.

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我们看到Circle涨得最猛,第二天就涨了20%,Coinbase涨了七八个点,Robinhood我记得涨了4%左右。

So we saw Circle was the biggest winner, Circle was up 20% the next day, Coinbase was up about seven or eight, and then Robinhood, I think was up four.

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这些跟加密货币关系紧密的股票,都因为这条消息动了起来。

So those are the ones, know, the closely tied crypto stocks were moving on this news.

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就连今天,Coinbase还宣布要裁掉14%的员工。

And then even today, there was an announcement from Coinbase that they are cutting 14% of their workforce.

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他们发了一封邮件给很多员工,准确说是所有Coinbase员工,通知一部分人他们的任期到此结束了。

So there was a email that went out to a lot of our, I guess all Coinbase employees letting them know and certain ones were informed that their time at Coinbase is ending.

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我觉得布赖恩写了一篇很长的文章,解释为什么现在很多AI都在做减法,说白了就是AI正在接管越来越多的工作。

And, you know, I think Brian had a long post about why a lot of AI in that, know, just trying to again, cut the fat and and the AI is taking over a lot of things.

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里面有一点我觉得挺有意思,就是现在根本不存在纯粹的管理者了。

There was something in there that I thought was interesting It was there's no pure managers anymore.

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在这里工作的每个人都是贡献者。

Anybody who works here is a contributor.

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你当然可以有领导岗位,但没人是光管人的。

You can obviously have leadership positions, but there's nobody that's just managing people.

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消息出来后,股价反而反弹了,这种事有时候真会发生。

And then the stock bounced on that, which sometimes it does.

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节目开始前,我刚和布赖恩聊过。

I was talking to Brian before the show.

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我记得马克·扎克伯格当年宣布大幅裁员时,股价一下就涨了20%。

I I saw, I remember when Mark Zuckerberg announced he was cutting a lot of staff over at Meta, the stock jumps like 20%.

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作为一个人,看到因为裁员消息出来,股价反而上涨,心里确实挺难受的,这从来都不是什么好事。

And and it's it's tough as a human being just to be like, this is the stocks rallying on this news of people losing their jobs, which is never good.

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Coinbase的股价倒是跳了一下,但没多久就迅速回落了。

And the stock popped for Coinbase, but then it quietly, not quietly, it quickly reversed.

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趁着我还在说这事儿,咱们现在就看一下吧。

Let's just pull it up now while I'm on this rant.

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我觉得这挺有意思的,因为市场现在大概跌了3%左右。

Because I do think it's interesting because I think the market, yeah, it's it's about down 3%.

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所以今天一天,市场就来回波动了7%。

So it's like a 7% swing today to the downside.

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我觉得市场是在试探,Coinbase的未来到底在哪。

And I think the market's trying to sniff out like what is the future for coin base?

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毕竟以前,它是加密货币和山寨币里最大的护城河。

Because obviously they used to be the biggest moat of crypto and altcoins.

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但现在不一样了,Robinhood、Gemini、Kraken,随便哪家都跟它竞争。

That's not the case anymore with Robinhood, Gemini, Kraken, you name it.

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然后他们又说,哦,我们现在转做博彩市场了。

And then they come, they're like, oh, now we're doing betting markets.

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我们来聊聊股票。

We'll do stocks.

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他们搞了各种永续合约,简直想复制Robinhood的路子,不过我们之前已经聊过他们推出这些产品的时候了。

We have perpetuals on all sorts like they're almost trying to do the Robinhood, but we kind of covered that when they're launching all that.

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现在市场在消化裁员的消息,想看看这会对他们的收入产生什么影响,挺有意思的。

So it's interesting to see the market discount the cut of jobs to maybe compare like what their revenues will be.

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我提这个,是想抛个球给你,Brian,这问题可没在提纲上。

And I bring this up to toss it back to you, Brian, a little volleyball lob of a question that's not on the sheet.

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我看《清晰法案》里,倒是看到了不少创新的可能。

I see for the Clarity Act, I see roads of innovation.

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你得开发出能主动利用用户稳定币或加密货币的产品,然后给用户返利。

You're gonna have to come up with products that use people's stablecoins or use people's cryptos in an active way to then give them rewards.

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我觉得Coinbase恰恰是最有潜力做出这种东西的公司。

And I think that Coinbase is one of the companies that would be situated perfectly to be able to come up with something like that.

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但我还没仔细研究过《清晰法案》的细节,说不上多懂。

And I'm not smart enough to I haven't read the fine print yet of this Clarity Act.

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但我刚想到这个,就在想,那到底会是什么样的产品呢?

But when I was just thinking of this, I'm like, well, what could be that product?

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怎么才能让稳定币保持活跃,而不是躺在那儿当存款?怎么才能让它们真正派上用场?

What could keep what could qualify as stablecoins keeping them active to not be deposits, what could qualify them in an active role.

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我想到现在好多公司都在推自己的信用卡。

And I thought of all these companies launching their credit cards.

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而且说实话,这方面的细节我也不太清楚。

And so is and again, we I don't know this.

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我不是在下定论,但有没有可能把加密货币信用卡和活跃存款结合起来?

I'm not saying this as a fact, but is there a way to tie in the coin based credit card?

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比如Robinhood的信用卡?

The Robinhood credit card?

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或者Gemini的信用卡?

The Gemini credit card?

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能不能让这些卡和持续还款的机制挂钩,让资金一直动起来?

Is there a way to tie that into active deposits where you're constantly paying off the bill?

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或者可能是信用卡和借记账户的结合,买东西时能即时转账稳定币。

Or maybe it's some type of mix between a credit card and a debit account, and it's an instant, you know, an instant transfer of stablecoins when you're buying things.

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正因为如此,你能立刻拿到奖励。

But because of that, you're getting reward more instant rewards.

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所以这些1%、2%、3%、4%的返现,说不定还能再提高。

So maybe these two, three, 4% rewards could I don't know.

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我只是随便提一提。

I'm just throwing it out there.

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如果你当借记卡用,返现能涨到6%、7%、8%吗?

Could they jump to six, seven, eight if you're using it as a debit card and you're getting like 6% off purchases?

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我不确定。

I don't know.

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就是个想法。

Just an idea.

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我觉得这正是《清晰法案》在推动的——只要你活跃使用,就能获得更多奖励。

Because I think that's what the Clarity Act is opening up, innovation for more rewards if you're active.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你说得太准了,Tivo。

You you nailed it, Tivo.

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这简直像个空中接力,我直接扣篮得分。

And what an alley oop because I'm slamming that down.

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就连我的Gemini卡片,最近在App里也新增了一个选项,可以直接用我现有的加密货币来还账。

Even my Gemini card now just recently on the app, it has an option where I could pay the bill with my current crypto holdings.

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所以后台肯定有个机制,能把我的比特币或者以太坊自动兑换成稳定币,帮你处理信用卡账单。

So there's some sort of, you know, back end UI there that, you know, converts, you know, my Bitcoin or Ethereum over and takes care of my credit card, probably into some stablecoins.

Speaker 1

我觉得你提到的这些,全都有可能实现。

So I think everything you said is certainly on the table.

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我觉得就连像质押这种简单的事情,也完全在考虑范围内。

I think that just like, something as simple as staking is on the table.

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说到布赖恩·阿姆斯特朗裁掉14%员工的事,说实话,谁都不希望有人丢掉工作。

And I guess to go back to this whole Brian Armstrong and cutting, 14% of the workforce, I mean, nobody wants anybody to lose their job.

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我可是最看重人的那一个。

I'm like the number one people.

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我希望更多人能有工作。

I want more jobs for people.

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我希望人们能有安全感,敢于创新,去建设,而不是每天只想着按时上班打卡。

I want people to feel secure and think outside of the box and build instead of, you know, just, you know, bringing the lunch pail to work.

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Coinbase 做得不错,但就在我们开始聊之前,我就说过,他们有五千多名员工,人真的太多了,也许当时真需要那么多人。

And Coinbase has done a great job, but they did have about, I said this before we jumped on, 5,000 employees, just a ton of employees, and maybe they needed all those employees.

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所以他们裁掉了七百人。

So they cut 700.

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但要是跟其他一些特别有意思的企业比,这就很能说明问题了,比如 Hyperliquid,赚得盆满钵满,却只有二十个员工。

But when you compare it to some other very interesting companies out there, now it's this is this is an apples to apples, but Hyperliquid, for instance, which makes a boat ton of money, has 20 employees.

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他们一直保持精简,但收入却非常高。

So they've definitely kept it lean over there, and they're making a lot of money.

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所以我对裁掉14%的员工这事,并不觉得有什么大不了的。

So I don't I'm not, like, alarmed by this cutting the workforce of 14%.

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看到这种情况我确实挺遗憾的,但他们也在努力转向更原生的AI架构和基础设施。

I hate to see this happen, but they're also trying to get into more AI native structure and infrastructure.

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我觉得人工智能和加密货币是天生一对。

I think the AI world and crypto go together.

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布莱恩·阿姆斯特朗就是那种明确说过,未来会有更多AI代理用加密货币交易,而不是人类亲自操作的人。

I Brian Armstrong's one of those clear people who have said there's gonna be more AI agents transacting with crypto than humans.

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我觉得稳定币、AI和智能代理这些结合在一起,会打开无数新的方式,让我们赚取收益、更好地利用稳定币。

I think stablecoins and AI and agents and all of that is gonna open up all these new avenues of how we can earn yield, how we can utilize these stablecoins.

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这真是个令人兴奋的时代。

It's just a really exciting time.

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如果我们因为《清晰法案》而限制这些奖励,其实是在拖慢创新的步伐。

And I think if we hold these rewards back from the Clarity Act, we're holding back innovation.

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所以我们应该给这些公司机会去创新,因为别人迟早会做。

So we wanna give an opportunity for all these companies to innovate because somebody else is gonna do it.

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别的国家,别人迟早会做。

Another country, somebody else is gonna do it.

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他们会抓住这个机会的。

They're gonna capitalize on it.

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所以我们始终得往前走。

So we always wanna keep moving forward.

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我很期待看到这一切如何发展,你提到信用卡这个点非常好,稳定币的创意空间简直无限——尤其是能赚取高额收益,这肯定会非常吸引人。

So I'm excited to see how it all shakes out, and you make a great point with the credit card and just the sky's the limit how creative you can get with these stablecoins and obviously earning massive yield, which is gonna be attractive.

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我理解银行的角度,但我觉得现在是时候支持一些创新者了。

And I get to get banks point of view, but I think it's time to kind of like support some people.

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对。

Yeah.

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我很想参与一个创意小组,专门想些点子,毕竟你做生意肯定要最大化收益,但也许——当然我可能完全想错了,不一定适用——关键是得主动参与。

I would love to be in a think tank of like creative ideas to give to obviously the whole, you're running a business, you have to make the most revenue, but like if and maybe maybe again, I'm completely wrong and that wouldn't qualify, but it's like be active.

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那我们怎么才能想出办法,让这些存款保持活跃呢?

So how can we come up with ideas to keep these deposits active?

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挺有意思的,比如可以根据你用这张卡消费的金额来分等级。

It would be interesting to like you could tier how much like the more money you spend with this card.

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他们通过处理费赚钱,每个月根据你的消费等级给你对应数量的稳定币。

So they're earning money processing fees, gets you certain level tiered of stablecoins each month.

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你这一周花到这个数目,就能赚到这么多。

And it's like you spend this much a week, you earn this.

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你这个月花到这个数目,就能赚到这么多。

If you spend this much a month, you earn this.

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说实话,我也不太确定。

And and it's like, I don't know.

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这本质上跟信用卡几十年来一直在做的没啥区别——通过游戏化的方式让你多花钱。

It's like it's it's basically the same thing as credit cards have done seemingly forever is gamify it to try to get you to spend more.

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我不是在鼓励超支,但如果你的项目够吸引人,大家自然会把大部分消费都用这张卡。

But and, know, I I'm not advocating for outrageous spending that you can't have, but then maybe if you offer the best program, you know, you use that one card for the majority of your spending.

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这个思路挺有意思的,我们肯定得好好聊聊。

So could be interesting, something we're definitely gonna cover here.

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不过说到底,关键还是这件事正在往前走。

But again, I think the name of the game is this seems to be moving forward.

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如果我们今天星期天给《清晰法案》再加点甜头的话。

If we're putting a cherry on top of the Clarity Act Sunday here.

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往后看,这项法案似乎得到了两党的共同支持,有望顺利通过。

Moving forward, looks like this is bipartisan support to get done.

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银行方面如愿以偿,拿到了他们想要的任命权。

The banks are getting what they want to appoint.

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加密行业也如愿以偿,感觉这场谈判挺平衡,双方都觉得自己还能争取更多,但也都满意了。

The crypto industry is getting what they want to appoint feels like a good negotiation in a way everybody's leaving the table wishing they got more.

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但我相信创新的大门已经打开,接下来就看会冒出哪些新产品了。

But also I do believe that Lane of Innovation is open And then it'll be interesting to see what products come out of that.

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而且我觉得,对于整个加密领域和比特币来说,这正是我们期待的绿灯——让加密技术真正以美国为起点,走向全球。

And then I also think that for Crypto as a whole and Bitcoin, know, I think this is what we hope for a green light to really, really continue the transformation of of crypto to the to be an America first, but also crypto to the world.

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当我们查看币圈市值、继续往前看的时候,有一件事立刻引起了我的注意。

As we pull up coin market cap and transition on, something that popped out immediately.

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你看看这个。

Look at this.

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正好五五开,就在正中间。

Fifty fifty smack dab in the middle.

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我们这就到了,伙计。

We're here, baby.

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上个月我们还处在极度恐惧中呢。

Last month, we were Oh, boys, we were extreme fear.

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别忘了2月6号那天,跌到了8。

Don't forget February 6 down at an eight.

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个位数。

Single digits.

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个位数。

Single digits.

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现在我们已经到了50了。

Now we're we're at the 50.

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这个我们待会儿再细说,不过很明显,我们看到比特币已经动起来了。

We'll actually cover this later, but I mean, there's some obviously we saw Bitcoin moving.

Speaker 0

这步走得很漂亮,七天涨了百分之七。

Nice move here, seven days, 7%.

Speaker 0

很明显,就算我们拉高一点,这个月也涨了百分之二十,表现相当扎实。

Obviously a solid even if we pull it up solid what month, you know, 20% on the month.

Speaker 0

这样的表现,谁会不喜欢呢?

You don't hate that at all.

Speaker 0

山寨币也稍微动起来了。

Altcoins are moving a little bit.

Speaker 0

我们稍后在节目中会详细聊一聊这些。

We'll cover some of that later in the show.

Speaker 0

感觉现在就是五五开,谁也说不准。

And, yeah, it feels it feels fifty fifty.

Speaker 0

我不害怕。

I'm not scared.

Speaker 0

我也不兴奋。

I'm not euphoric.

Speaker 0

我五十岁了。

I'm 50.

Speaker 0

我也是五五开,布莱恩。

I'm fifty fifty, Brian.

Speaker 1

感觉有点被忽视了。

It almost feels like it's going under noticed a little bit.

Speaker 1

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 1

人们在推特上讨论的是加密货币股票。

Like, people are talking about, like, crypto stocks on Twitter.

Speaker 1

现在全世界有这么多事发生,却很少有人为比特币突破八万美元欢呼。

Like, there's less, like, celebration of, like, us hitting $80,000 in with a lot of things going on in the world right now.

Speaker 1

所以,再说一遍,这不是投资建议,但我认为还会继续上涨。

So, again, not financial advice, but I think we go higher.

Speaker 1

我也这么觉得。

I do.

Speaker 1

我觉得还会继续上涨。

I I think we go higher.

Speaker 1

我目前不会开任何多单,但我觉得我们会上涨,只是持谨慎乐观态度。

I'm not opening any longs or anything along those lines, but I am cautiously optimistic that we're going higher.

Speaker 1

我希望我们能收在84以上。

I'd like to see us close above 84.

Speaker 1

我很期待看到价格突破90,那时候大家肯定会疯狂追涨,因为我们离历史高点已经不远了,可这事却没人关注。

I love And then I think when we see a nine in front of it, when we see 90, there's gonna be some real FOMO with people because we're not gonna be that far off of all time highs, and this is all going under notice.

Speaker 1

之前那些散户短线买家都离场了,聪明钱却在悄悄进场,价格就这么慢慢爬升。

We had all those retail short term buyers sell out, got smart money piling in, and we're just grinding up.

Speaker 1

图表看起来很棒。

The chart looks great.

Speaker 1

感觉还不错。

Things feel pretty good.

Speaker 1

我现在做的任何技术分析我都喜欢。

I love whatever TA we're doing right now.

Speaker 1

我完全投入进去了。

It's, I'm I'm into it.

Speaker 1

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 1

下面这个是下降三角形吗?

Is that a descending triangle to the lower end?

Speaker 1

这到底是什么情况?

Is that, what what are we looking at here?

Speaker 0

这是第一次出现在中间位置。

This is this is the first ever in the middle here.

Speaker 0

你看这里,这是史上第一次‘Dudes Rock’。

You see here, it's the first ever Dudes Rock.

Speaker 0

我们要冲上天了,兄弟。

It's the we're going to the moon, dude.

Speaker 0

不对。

No.

Speaker 0

我只是觉得,这其实正是我想从布兰登和亨特那里学的东西,亨特周五会来节目做客。

I just I think, this is kinda what I was trying to learn from Brendan and Hunter, who Hunter is gonna be on the show on Friday.

Speaker 0

所以周五别忘了准时收看,和布莱斯、亨特一起互动,我们还会做一些技术分析。

So make sure you tune in on Friday live with Bryce and Hunter to meet Hunter and we'll do some TA.

Speaker 0

我之前说痛苦交易在更高位置时,其实挺看好这里的支持位。

But I was kinda when I was saying the pain trade was higher, I like this support here.

Speaker 0

我喜欢60这个位置。

I like the 60s.

Speaker 0

我确实这么想。

I did.

Speaker 0

我真的这么觉得。

I really did.

Speaker 0

当价格在这里围绕60上下波动时,我就觉得,就像我们在节目里说的,痛苦交易应该在更高位。

And I thought when we were bouncing around the 60s down here, I thought the pain trade was higher as we said on the show.

Speaker 0

如果你每周都坚持听我们的节目,这个判断简直太准了,非常感谢你的支持。

Another great call if you listen to these episodes week in and week out with us, we really appreciate it.

Speaker 0

但你明明说痛苦区在更高位置,现在我们却在这儿。

But you got the pain trade is higher and here we are.

Speaker 0

我们正在80多点位来回拉锯,我觉得这里可能会先冲一把到90,然后盘整一下。

We're dancing in the 80s and I I think I think you could have that first breakout to 90 here and then you consolidate.

Speaker 0

从那之后我不觉得痛苦区会再抬高,但我还是觉得,市场会恐慌。

And then I wouldn't say the pain trades higher from there, but I still think, I think there's the panic.

Speaker 0

比如看到比特币到了85、86,我觉得很多人会恐慌性抄底,冲进90区间。

Like if you see Bitcoin at 85, 86, I think there's panic buying to get into the nineties.

Speaker 0

而且我觉得,就在这里,大概率还会再盘整一轮。

And then I do think, again, right here, you probably consolidate in here again.

Speaker 0

我觉得我们不太可能一下子冲到110万美元——这点我们之前也说过,就你和我,但我觉得这里可能会突然来一波疯涨。当然,这不是理财建议,咱们就是朋友聊聊天,但我的钱是押在能冲到接近90的。

I don't think, and we said this, me and you specifically, I don't think we're rocketing back up to $1.10, but I I think you could get a crazy little pop here into the and not personal financial advice, we're just friends talking crypto here, but like I do my money's on us getting up into close to the nineties there.

Speaker 0

然后还得再盘整一阵子,才会考虑下一波上涨,这得看宏观情况了。

And then consolidating again before you'd make that jump back up, depending on macro and whatnot.

Speaker 0

但我总觉得,我们迟早会突破这个区间,冲上90,这正是我一直在关注的。

But I just I think we kinda break out of this eventually and get up into the nineties is something that I'm trying to watch.

Speaker 0

我觉得比特币现在就想在八十多美元附近徘徊。

I think Bitcoin wants to dance in the eighties.

Speaker 0

周五我就跟布伦丹这么说过。

That's what I I told Brendan that on Friday.

Speaker 0

我说:比特币是不是就想在八十多美元跳舞?还是我太主观了?

Was like, I think Bitcoin wants to dance in the eighties or am I biased?

Speaker 0

他同意我的看法。

And he he agreed.

Speaker 0

他认为现在进场,风险回报比正好适合我们在这区间里折腾。

He thinks the risk reward is is to get us dancing in the eighties here.

Speaker 1

布伦丹当然是史上最厉害的。

I mean, Brendan is obviously the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1

亨特也是个狠角色,人人都该听听他的观点。

Hunter's an absolute stud, so everyone needs a tune.

Speaker 1

我也会进场的。

I'm gonna be in there.

Speaker 1

周五我肯定会去那个聊天室,稍微调侃他一下。

I'm gonna be in that chat on Friday chirping him a little bit.

Speaker 1

我特别期待,因为他们会用技术分析把这事讲得特别透彻。

I'm excited for that because they're gonna break it down such a great way with TA.

Speaker 1

但蒂沃刚才说的,我觉得跟我自己的想法完全一致。

But what Tivo just presented there, I think, is exactly where I'm I'm going as well.

Speaker 1

我觉得咱们确实已经在八十年代的节奏里跳起来了。

I I think we I think we danced in the eighties.

Speaker 1

我喜欢这个说法。

I love that.

Speaker 1

我特别喜欢这个词。

I love that term.

Speaker 1

我觉得现在有点恐慌性买入,要是比特币很快冲到九万,我一点都不意外。

I think there's a little bit of a panic buy, and I would not be surprised if we see a nine in front of Bitcoin sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1

我对未来的走势特别期待。

I'm excited for where we're going.

Speaker 1

我觉得这是我看过的最棒的TA分析之一了,因为它意味着只涨不跌,我真的很期待。

I think that was one of the best TA breakdowns that I've seen in a long time because it means up only, and I'm excited for it.

Speaker 1

我们马上就能给布兰登和亨特一些确认了,但眼下比特币的世界感觉特别好。

We'll we'll get a little bit of confirmation for Brendan and Hunter, but things feel really good right now in the world of Bitcoin.

Speaker 1

我想这事儿没写在表上。

I I guess it's not on the sheet.

Speaker 1

我们根本没提前准备,但现在得让你现场发挥一下了。

We didn't prep this at all, but I'm gonna put you on the spot.

Speaker 1

你对山寨币市场怎么看?

What are your thoughts for, like the altcoin market?

Speaker 1

如果比特币继续这么强势上涨,你觉得山寨币是继续震荡,还是会慢慢下跌?

If Bitcoin keeps pushing like it is, do you think altcoins kind of just still chop around or bleed a little bit?

Speaker 1

你有想过这个问题吗?

Have you even thought about it?

Speaker 0

我当然想过。

Of course I've thought about it.

Speaker 0

我的意思是,我们每次都会聊到Pudgy Penguin

I mean, we talk about Pudgy Penguin every single

Speaker 1

你看过那个了吗?

Have you seen that?

Speaker 1

我们买Pudgy吗?

Are we buying Pudgy?

Speaker 1

你说什么?

What

Speaker 0

你在说什么啊?

are you talking about bro?

Speaker 0

我们这波赚大了。

We're killing it.

Speaker 1

它已经涨了快50%了,

It's up like 50% on the

Speaker 0

不是,是这个月涨了50%。

No, 50% on the month.

Speaker 1

我记不清我们当时怎么叫的了,但感觉上得有点闭环才行。

I forget what we called it out, but it has to feel somewhat closed.

Speaker 0

我的意思是,如果你在听这个播客,那你可真是捡到大便宜了——每次邦妮和乔上节目,我们几乎都提到了,尤其是你翻一翻今年的全部内容。

I mean, I think if you're listening to this podcast, you're getting amazing alpha because we covered every, every time Bonnie and Joe were on, we brought up every single, especially if you pull up the year.

Speaker 0

就在这儿,往下看,今年我们聊得最多的,就是Pudgy Penguin和那张信用卡,我们一直在说,为什么我们这么喜欢Pudgy Penguin,因为他们真正在做东西。

Right in this, right down here, all we talked about this year, anytime Pudgy Pudgy Penguin, the credit card, we were just talking about how that we love Pudgy Penguin because they build.

Speaker 0

他们在建设。

They build.

Speaker 0

再说一遍,这可不是个人财务建议。

And again, it's not personal financial advice.

Speaker 0

显然,前面那段日子特别爽。

Obviously up here was a super fun time.

Speaker 0

那时候我们一直跟着Pudgy走。

And we were we were riding with Pudgy then.

Speaker 0

我们确实做了一些不错的交易,拿了一部分利润,但也有一部分拿得比较久,不过我们当时就说,只要他们持续建设,迟早会回来的。

And certainly we made some solid trades there, took some profits, but we rode we rode some down too, but we said, hey, we we think if they continue to build, they'll be back.

Speaker 0

而且最近一个月这里涨了86%,这谁还能不满意呢?

And and certainly in the last month with 86% here, you can't hate that at all.

Speaker 0

这谁还能不满意呢?

You can't hate that at all.

Speaker 0

但说到更大的问题,是的,行情肯定会回来的。

But but to kinda overarching question, yeah, things are gonna come back.

Speaker 0

山寨币一定会反弹的。

Altcoins will come back.

Speaker 0

这其实不归我管,我可不敢乱下结论。

I think that's not really my department, so I don't wanna give too hot a take.

Speaker 0

我更愿意把这事儿交给你们俩,Momentum Money Makers。

I really like to delegate that to you and Joe, Momentum Money Makers.

Speaker 0

当然,Crypt Nation这个社群,还有Bryce和Rohit的通讯,那里才是真正的信息源头。

Obviously, the community of the Crypt Nation, the newsletter with Bryce and Rohit, you know, that's where that alpha lives the most.

Speaker 0

如果你特别关注这个,我们下面一直都有链接。

So if you're somebody that's really interested in that, obviously we always have the links down there.

Speaker 0

我给Brian的Momentum Money Makers买了1美元的试用,也给Crypt Nation的通讯订了1美元的试用,赶紧去订阅吧。

I got the $1 trial for Brian, Momentum Money Makers, $1 trial for Crypt Nation, get the newsletter.

Speaker 0

如果你想找那种超早期的内幕信息,别忘了点开那些链接。

Check out those links if you're looking for that early, early alpha.

Speaker 0

我觉得比特币确实像涨潮一样带动所有资产,但关键还是要搞清楚该上哪条船。

But I think, yeah, that's a Bitcoin is a tide that certainly lifts all boats, but there's alpha to know what boat you wanna ride on.

Speaker 0

从上一轮周期里我学到的是,有些老币偶尔会突然暴涨,走势很疯狂,但如果没有坚实的基本面支撑,这种行情很难持续——这算是我最大的体会。

And I think what we learned from the last cycle is those dinosaur cryptos can pop off at times and have these weird runs, but they're not necessarily sustainable, if they don't have a fundamental storyline is kind of my biggest takeaway from it.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

有那么几款山寨币,我确实挺喜欢的,我们每次复盘都会聊到它们。

There's a there's a few just altcoins that I I'm I have a slight love affair with, you know, and we talk about them on the rundown all the time.

Speaker 1

就是那种炒作热点嘛。

Like, you know, the hype.

Speaker 1

我觉得Zeke Ash在隐私赛道上的布局特别有意思。

I think Zeke Ash is super interesting with the privacy meta.

Speaker 1

Pudgy Penguins,真的。

Pudgy Penguins, man.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,咱们一直都在聊这个。

Like, what an app I mean, we've been talking about this.

Speaker 1

我懂。

I get it.

Speaker 1

整个加密市场大家都被洗了一轮,但我们一直强调,只要比特币一反弹,开始走强,像Pudgy Penguins这样的代币就会最先冲起来,而且涨得最猛,它确实是目前表现最突出的之一。

Like, we got everyone got washed out a little bit for the rest of the crypto market, but we were just banging on the drum that when Bitcoin recovers, when it starts to show strength, tokens like Pudgy Penguins are the ones that are gonna run and run the hardest, and it's been one of the biggest winners.

Speaker 1

老兄,我们现在Pudgy Penguins和Pepe一起排在第71大加密货币,而Pepe当初可是上百亿美元市值的项目。

Dude, we're in we're number 71 crypto of Pudgy Penguins with Pepe, which was a multibillion dollar market cap.

Speaker 1

现在它的市值是17亿美元。

Now it's a 1,700,000,000.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,我们离Pepe的规模就差两倍了。

I mean, we're we're close to two x away from being a Pepe.

Speaker 1

这个布局我太喜欢了。

I'm I'm loving this setup here.

Speaker 1

我喜欢这个局面,因为Pudgy Penguins团队一直在持续产出,持续赚钱。

I'm loving this setup because the Pudgy Penguins team continues to produce, continues to make money.

Speaker 1

我觉得某些币接下来会有一波不错的上涨。

And I think we're gonna see a nice run up in certain coins.

Speaker 1

Pengu是我们一直聊得很多的项目,这有充分的理由。

And Pengu is one that we've talked about a lot for good reason.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我觉得市值这个点挺有意思,毕竟你拿一年前的价格和现在的市值对比,其实一直挺稳定的。

And I think the market cap thing's interesting because even, you know, obviously if you compare it to the price on the one year versus the market cap on a one year, stays obviously pretty consistent.

Speaker 0

但我觉得,就像你说的,我们完全有可能达到Pepe的水平。

But I I just I think that the market cap, like you said, we can go reach Pepe.

Speaker 0

这事儿真不是没可能。

It's like, it's not out of question for that.

Speaker 0

我觉得Pepe当年确实靠梗火了,而且在互联网上一直有持久的影响力。

I think this is, you know, the the Pepe was viral in in memeification for sure, and obviously a a staying power on the Internet.

Speaker 0

但他们做的东西根本没法跟Pengu比。

But they're not building like Pengu, man.

Speaker 0

整个Pudgy Penguin里,没人做得像Pengu这么有料。

Nobody's building like Pengu at Pudgy Penguin overall.

Speaker 0

所以我们特别看好这一点,以后还会继续关注。

So something we really like here and we will continue to cover.

Speaker 0

另一个我们社区里经常聊、节目里也多次提到的,是Ondo,今年社区里对它的讨论特别多。

Another one that that we've covered inside the community a lot and on the show, but I know this has been inside the community a lot this year was Ondo.

Speaker 0

Ondo最近有新动态了。

And Ondo had some news here.

Speaker 0

他们跟Michael Saylor合作,把STRC代币化了。

They're tokenized STRC with Michael Strau Michael Saylor stretch.

Speaker 0

他们选了Ondo来做这件事,把资产代币化。

They're they're tokenizing it and they chose they chose Ondo.

Speaker 0

现在通过Ondo Global Markets,这个代币已经上线以太坊、BNB链和Solana了。

So it's now available on Ethereum, BNB chain, and Solana through Ondo Global Markets.

Speaker 0

这就是Ondo的主打方向。

That's Ondo's thing.

Speaker 0

就是现实资产通证化,我知道Rohit之前发过几期通讯聊这个。

It's tokenization, RWAs, and I know Rohit has had some newsletters on it.

Speaker 0

我知道Bryce过去一年多一直挺看好这个项目。

I know Bryce has liked it over the last, you know, year plus.

Speaker 0

最近社区里也一直在讨论,还出了不少大新闻,价格也有明显动静。

And I know it's been talked about recently inside the community and it and it had some big news and it and it's had some movement too.

Speaker 0

你觉得Ondo怎么样?我先把图表调出来。

What do you think about Ondo and I'll pull up the chart?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我觉得现实资产通证化这事儿确实不错。

I mean, I think real world assets and tokenization is great.

Speaker 1

我很喜欢Ondo这个标的。

I love Ondo as a as a play.

Speaker 1

这是我个人投资组合的一部分,但有意思的是,他们推出了一种一对一的策略,也就是永续优先股。

It's part of my personal portfolio, but this is interesting because they launched a one to one version of strategies, perpetual preferred stock.

Speaker 1

你每年能拿到大约11.5%的收益,按月现金发放。

You're gonna get, you know, I think it's like 11.5 annualized paid monthly in cash.

Speaker 1

他们可能会改成每两周发一次,但面值是100美元。

Maybe they change it to biweekly, but it's it's a a $100 par value.

Speaker 1

你存入现金,策略会把资金主要投入比特币,然后你每月收分红。

You deposit cash, strategy deploys it to heavy Bitcoin exposure, and you collect monthly dividends.

Speaker 1

看到Ondo这么积极地推进这个,真的很不错。

So it's great to see that Ondo is embracing it.

Speaker 1

迈克尔·塞拉一直在大举买入,持续加仓比特币,这确实让人有点紧张。

Michael Saylor is taking these stretch buys and continuing to just hammer Bitcoin, and which could make you a little nervous.

Speaker 1

我得说实话。

I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1

我以前也担心过,但他总能在关键时刻做出正确的决定。

I've felt that in the past, but he seems to he seems to make the right decisions here at the right times.

Speaker 1

我知道他的一些买入价比我们高,但他好像一直在不断拿到更多资金去买比特币。

I know some of his buys have been above where we've been, but, you know, I I I think he's just he just continuously gets more and more capital to buy Bitcoin.

Speaker 1

他对卖家施加了巨大的买卖压力。

And he is just such a tremendous amount of sell, buy pressure that he puts on these sellers.

Speaker 1

我觉得这会很棒。

I think it's gonna be great.

Speaker 1

这又是Ondo涉足长期投资的另一个途径。

And this is just another avenue where Ondo is getting involved in stretch.

Speaker 1

我

I

Speaker 0

我觉得金融媒体这块,我可能真得买点长期投资产品。

feel like the financial journalism, I think I have to buy some stretch.

Speaker 0

我一直觉得,嗯,我其实没完全搞懂这东西。

I was always like, yeah, I don't necessarily fully understand it.

Speaker 0

我不太愿意买自己不懂的东西,但我平时也爱赌一把。

And I don't like to buy things I don't fully understand, but I also gamble a lot.

Speaker 0

所以我感觉我愿意买一些,我打算

And so I feel like I'm willing to buy some I gonna

Speaker 1

说实话,我翻了翻最近几天的聊天记录,发现有三四条消息,我们根本没完全搞懂,但还是跟风进了。

say, I could probably go through the text messages and find three to five over the past few days of things that we did not really fully understand, but we were like, we're probably aping in.

Speaker 1

我脑子里倒是有一个例子,不过我不打算说。

And I've got one on the top of my head that I'm not gonna mention.

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这不是那种我和你一起经历过大起大落的加密货币。

It's not a crypto that, you know, I've had some major sweats with with you.

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时不时地

Every once in

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这不代表我们就认了,没错。

a while doesn't mean, okay, yes.

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这不等于说我们不懂。

That doesn't mean that we don't understand it.

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我们心里清楚自己在做什么,但这就是在赌。

We know what we're doing, but it's gambling.

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我们明白这就像赌博。

We get gambling.

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他对这种持续派发股息的财务操作方式,我总觉得有点牵强。

So I'm a bit of stretch in how he does the financial alchemy of this in the in the constant yielding dividend.

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我真的搞不懂这套财务魔术是怎么玩的。

And I'm just like, man, I don't understand the financial alchemy of this.

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既然看不懂,我就没法真正去投资。

So that means I can't truly invest in it.

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不过,就像我说的,我确实喜欢赌一把。

However, there like I said, however, I do like to gamble.

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作为这个节目的主持人之一,我们每周都聊这些,我觉得至少得稍微试一下,之后才能跟大家反馈。

And I feel like as the host, the co host of the rundown, and we talk about this stuff every week, feel like I need to put a little sprinkle, and then I can report back.

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我不会全仓投入,这根本算不上一个正式的投资头寸。

I'm not gonna it's not gonna be a full, you know, position for me by any means.

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因为我早就参与过这种策略了。

Because I've been in this strategy.

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我有个很棒的策略,叫2022年,靠着Robinhood赚了一笔。

I had a great strategy called 2022 and rode that up with my Robin Hood.

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那段时间真不错。

That was that was great.

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我可不是反对策略的人。

So I'm not anti strategy by any means.

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当然,我很喜欢Michael Sailor,他是节目的老朋友。

Love Michael Sailor, friend of the show, of course.

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不过,这种夸大其词的说法倒是挺有意思的。

But, yeah, the the stretch is interesting.

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通常那些跟着玩的人要么大赚,要么血本无归,要不就觉得这纯粹是骗局。

There's a and then you usually the people riding or die for stretch or they think it's, you know, a pure scam.

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所以我可能得稍微玩一下这个‘夸大’的玩法,再回投Ondo。

So I think I might have to sprinkle some stretch here with a boat back to Ondo.

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如果我们再回头看看Ondo,那真是精彩的一周,我来分享一下这个页面。

If we circle back to Ondo, a great I'll share this tab, great week.

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我的意思是,这一周就涨了百分之二十。

I mean 20% on the week.

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显然这条消息一出来,一周就涨了百分之二十,但话说回来,对于现实资产来说,今年可真不容易。

Obviously this news pops, that's that's 20% on the week, but also I mean again for real world assets, I mean tough year.

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就在二十下跌之前,可能全年已经涨了百分之八十了。

Like even before the twenty first down and probably 80% on the year.

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如果看整个周期,这基本上又回到了ICO那会儿的水平。

And then again, if you're looking all time, I mean, this is basically back with the ICO.

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我记得Ondo那时候势头正猛,涨得可高了。

I remember Ondo was running fun, running high.

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所以,你还是得自己做研究。

So, you know, you gotta do your own research.

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如果你在圈子里,收了那些通讯简报,能学到的东西不少,要做的决定也多,但这次Ondo借着好消息,确实涨得不错。

I think if if you, are in the community and you got those newsletters, a lot to learn, and make decisions on, but, a good run here for Ondo with some good news.

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是的。

Yeah.

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没错,确实如此。

Absolutely, man.

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我觉得Ondo已经建立了大量重要的合作伙伴关系,并且正在真正融入现实世界。

I think Ondo Ondo has just so many major partnerships and getting integrated in the real world.

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说实话,图表上很难看,因为很多人早期就抢购Ondo,那时候的价格发现纯粹是投机。

I mean, in the chart, it's tough because a lot of people are bidding Ondo early on, because that a lot of those that price discovery was just pure speculation.

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经过调整之后,现在他们才真正开始发力。

We get the correction, and now they're starting to, you know, really work.

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我记得他们被选入了DTCC关于美国代币化的行业工作组。

I mean, I think they were selected for DTCC's, industries working group for US tokenization.

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如果你相信现实世界资产,相信链上代币化,那Ondo简直就是个显而易见的机会,而且现在离它的历史高点还远着呢。

If you believe in real world assets, if you believe in tokenizing on chain, Ondo's kind of feels like a no brainer opportunity and you know, it's far off its all time highs.

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我真的很喜欢他们的产品。

So I love the product.

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我觉得他们确实做得到。

I think they do

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做得不错。

a good job.

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是的,得坦白说一下。

Yeah, full disclosure.

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我确实持有一点Ondo的仓位。

I do have a little bit of Ondo bag.

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这点得说明白。

You know, full disclosure there.

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真有意思,我们刚聊到Sailor,结果他这周根本没买比特币,别急。

Funny that we were talking about Sailor and all he does is buy Bitcoin, not so fast.

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这周没买。

Not this week.

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这周没下单,下周一再回去干活。

No buys this week, back to work next week.

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这周Michael Saylor没买,不过也没关系。

So no buys for Michael Saylor this week, but that's okay.

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他就是不停地买。

All he does is buy.

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但以太坊巨鲸在买啊,Brian。

But the ETH whales are buying, Brian.

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巨鲸们还在持续买入。

The whales continue to buy.

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这事儿肯定会有,待会儿我们再聊他。

Obviously, that will be and we'll talk about him in a second.

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Bitmine Tom Lee 总是在买,但更多巨鲸都在进场。

Is is Bitmine Tom Lee always buying, but more more walls are buying.

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链上数据显示,过去48小时内,以太坊巨鲸累计买入了价值3.22亿美元的以太坊。

The on chain data showing that Eth Whales accumulated $322,000,000 worth of Eth in the last forty eight hours.

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但价格稳得很。

But price is holding firm.

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刚才小涨了一下。

A little pop there.

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我觉得我们昨天24小时内已经触及了2400。

I think we kissed 2,400 in the last twenty four hours.

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但大量买入还在继续,老兄,OTC那边不停在抛,E基金会也一直在卖。

But the accumulations happening, man, these OTC deaths nonstop selling the E Foundation continues to sell.

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我觉得他们把BitMine卖了。

I think they sold the BitMine.

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哦,你知道的,我们没看到价格有明显反应。

Oh, you know, we're not seeing the the price.

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下面写着呢。

It says down there.

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是啊,BitMine的OTC吸收还在进行。

Yeah, bit mine OTC absorption.

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但他们,我也不太清楚。

But they they I I don't know.

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归根结底,这跟比特币的情况其实差不多,对吧?

It's just eventually it's kind of the same thing with Bitcoin, right?

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那这种买盘压力什么时候才会冲破顶部呢?

Like when does this buying pressure blow off the top?

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我觉得以太坊就快到了,因为质押收益实在太惊人了。

And I think for Ethereum, it should be coming because like the staking is incredible.

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有整整一千亿的以太坊被质押了,现在BitMine的质押比例大概占到以太坊总供应量的4%多一点,接近他们承诺的5%。

Like 10,000,000,000 of ETH staked, I think Bitmines now at like four point something percent of the Ethereum supply on their alchemy of 5%.

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排队的人可多了。

And there's there's a large wait line.

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大家都想参与质押。

People just want a stake.

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真的都想参与质押。

They want a stake.

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如果你以前在四千美元以上买过以太坊,那时候就觉得不错,那现在两千三百美元,你更应该疯狂喜欢才对。

I mean, if you were buying Ethereum above $4,000 and you liked it then, you should absolutely love it at $2,300.

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我们刚才还聊到几次我感觉自己以太坊持仓太少了,两个人都笑出来了。

We just talked about a couple rundowns where I was like, I feel underexposed to Ethereum, and both of us were laughing.

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我觉得我们俩也都买了一点以太坊。

And I think we both, like, you know, bought a little bit of Ethereum as well.

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我觉得以太坊上涨只是时间问题,毕竟买盘力量太强了。

I I think it's just in due time where Ethereum runs, and it's just there's just a lot of buying pressure.

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以太坊网络现在有大量集成应用。

There's a lot of integrations with the Ethereum network.

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主网在Gas费这些问题上已经清理得差不多了。

Main net's definitely cleaned up a lot of its issues with gas fees and things along those lines.

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它现在几乎是很多代币化项目的首选链。

It's it's being utilized as kinda like the the number one chain for a lot of this tokenization.

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我也是以太坊的忠实支持者。

I I'm a I'm an ETH guy too.

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我一直看好以太坊,觉得未来前景非常明朗。

I've always liked Ethereum, and I I think I think there's clear skies ahead.

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我有点惊讶它现在还没涨得更高,不过市场有时候就是说不通。

I'm surprised it actually is not a little higher than it is, but it doesn't always make sense.

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你知道吧,有时候事情就是说不通,因为背后有些我们看不到的运作和交易。

You know, sometimes just things don't make sense because there's some inner workings and dealings.

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感觉我们刚从泥潭里爬出来,抖了抖鞋上的泥,接下来这些代币就要集体爆发了。

Feels like we're just kind of getting out of the mud here a little bit and shaking our boots off, and then there's gonna be a pop in a lot of these tokens.

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在我看来,以太坊肯定会走在最前面。

And Ethereum's gonna, of course, be leading the way in my opinion.

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汤姆·李根本不会有任何异议。

And Tom Lee does not not argue.

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这点我可以肯定。

I'll tell you that much.

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他一直在大手笔地买入,一买就是一亿美元一亿美元的。

He's just hammering $100,000,000 buys left and right.

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是啊,这人说话直来直去,态度又特别冷静,这么说吧。

Yeah, the guy states his case very bluntly and in a stoic manner, if I may say.

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我还觉得,对那些经常刷加密货币推特的听众来说,这件事挺有意思的。

And then I just, I thought this was interesting for anybody who listens to the show that's on crypto Twitter a lot.

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这周网上出现了一些负面消息。

There was, there was there was some FUD online this week.

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有人发帖说以太坊的退出队列比排队等待质押的队列长得多,这引起了不少社区讨论。

Somebody was posting like the ETH exit queue, was crazy outnumbering the, like, waiting to get in staking queue, and that got some community notes.

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其实没什么好担心的。

So nothing to worry about there.

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实际上,进入队列的人数是退出队列的七倍,这个数字要大得多。

The entry queue is actually seven times larger than the exit queue, which you know, is a larger number.

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有一条推文传播得很广,我不知道用‘病毒式传播’准不准确,但确实吸引了大量关注。

So more people are waiting to stake than more people are unstaking, But there was a tweet that went, I don't know if viral's right word, but it got a lot of attention.

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所以我只是想提醒一下听节目的朋友们,别被误导了。

So I just wanted any of the listeners out there to get the facts.

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如果你看到那条推文后有点担心,其实情况并不是那样。

If they saw that tweet and were worried, know, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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大家都在积极地把ETH拿去质押。

People are marching to stake their ETH.

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我总喜欢分享这类情况,当加密货币突然被主流媒体提到,不管你是喜欢、讨厌还是无感。

Saw stuff that I always like to show is when when Crypto kind of gets a mainstream shout out and love them or hate them are indifferent.

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乔·罗根的播客是全球收听量第一的。

Joe Rogan is the number one podcast in the world.

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这是有数据支持的。

That's just the stats.

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他确实是个很有争议的人物,尤其是在大选期间。

So obviously quite a polarizing figure, especially during the election cycle.

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但这次他聊了一点加密货币的内容,我觉得值得一听,因为如果你是全球最受欢迎的节目,那就意味着你触达了最多的听众。

But there was a little there was a little crypto talk, and I thought it was worth listening to because, again, if you're the most popular show in the world, that means you get the most ears in the world.

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这周他们听到的就是这些。

So this is what they heard this week.

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说到诈骗,你对空气币怎么看?

Speaking of scamming, what do you think about shitcoins?

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比如Haktua币、梅拉尼娅币这类更多的 meme 币,你怎么评价?

Like what's take on like Haktua coin and Melania coin and are more mean, more meme coins.

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山寨币,对吧?

Shitcoins, right?

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这不就是梗币的定义吗?

Isn't that what a meme coin is?

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我唯一相信的币就是比特币。

Any, So the only coin I believe in is Bitcoin.

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我们以前聊过这个。

And we've talked about this before.

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我甚至还查了下,本来盼着你能提起来呢。

In fact, I looked it up hoping you would bring it up.

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两年前我上次来的时候,比特币还不到四万美元,现在都快十万了。

Two years ago when I was here the last time Bitcoin was around $40,000 Today it's close to a $100,000.

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这价格还会继续涨,直到我们都不在了。

This will continue to go up until we're long gone.

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这事儿真有意思。

It's very interesting.

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所以我并不相信。

So I don't believe in.

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然后乔又说,嘿,我认同比特币。

So then Joe goes on to say like, Hey, I agree with Bitcoin.

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所以每当这种片段冒出来,大家又开始讨论,想想看,这就是人们真正听到的内容,挺有意思的。

So again, I think it's always fun when clips like that, you know, surface and resurface that, you know, hey, this is this is what people are hearing.

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这正是它有趣、轻松的一面。

And, you know, that's the kind of fun entertaining side of it.

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还有另一面,比如摩根士丹利这样的机构,他们的理财顾问也会开始推销它。

And then there's the, you know, the Morgan Stanley, the box side of it, where their financial advisors are going to be selling it as well.

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如果你有长期的眼光,我觉得你确实站对了位置。

So if you have a longer term mindset, you know, I I think you're in the right place.

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咱们再想想,今天还有什么要总结的吗?

And let's see, what else do we have to wrap up today?

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我觉得刚才这段挺好的。

I thought this was good.

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斯科特·贝森提到,他在谈人工智能时说,AI可能会被用来攻击银行账户、入侵银行系统,而美国金融机构正在积极加强这方面的防御。

So Scott Besson said, Scott Besson was talking about AI and he said, hey, AI could be used to attack bank accounts, to hack bank accounts, saying, US financial institutions are actively working on strengthening their defenses to that.

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我终于看到一条新闻,至少在金融圈里,AI要全面攻击各种系统了,这感觉挺好的。

And I thought it was finally nice to see a headline how, at least in the finance world, how AI is gonna attack everything.

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我们在这档节目里说过,加密圈也一直讲:如果量子计算真能破解比特币,那根本算不上最糟的情况。

We've said it on this show and obviously the crypto community has said, hey, if quantum computing's gonna break Bitcoin, that's the least of our problems.

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真正危险的是,它会直接摧毁我们的整个金融体系,而且还没做任何升级。

It's gonna kill our financial system, right?

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完全没做任何升级。

Without any upgrades.

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我觉得这个观点挺有意思。

So I thought this was interesting.

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我记得几周前——现在算起来可能快三周了——他开了一次紧急会议。

I know that a couple weeks ago, I mean, might be three weeks ago now, he kind of had an emergency meeting.

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布莱恩,你听说这事了吗?

Did you hear about this, Brian?

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是的,他把不少银行高管都召集来了。

Yeah, he summoned a lot of the bank leaders.

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我不确定他是把人叫到华盛顿,还是开的视频会,但我觉得他可能是把大家都叫到华盛顿了。

I don't know if he summoned them to DC or if it was a call, but I think he might have brought them all to DC.

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像花旗、摩根大通、高盛这些大机构,全都被叫来讨论跟Anthropic有关的事。

It was like Citi, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, all the big names to talk about something to do with like anthropic.

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好像是Anthropic那边出了什么漏洞或者泄露事件。

There was like a anthropic, you know, hacking leak or something.

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他们说:‘我们刚看到这个新模型在干什么,你们根本还没做好准备。’

They're like, hey, like we just saw what this new model is doing and like you guys aren't ready for it.

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他们觉得Anthropic的模型得关在沙盒里测试。

Like we gotta in the the anthropic models like sandbox.

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就是说,不能让它跑出来。

So it's, you know, not supposed to get out.

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整个模型都放在沙盒里。

It's in a sandbox.

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所以它没法自由运行,但他说,嘿,既然这东西已经出现了,很快就会在其他地方大量出现,而且它能破解你们所有的安全系统。

So it can't, you know, it's not running free, but he's like, hey, if this thing exists now, like it's gonna exist a lot of other places sooner rather than later and this thing can crack all your security.

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我这是转述,但核心意思就是,这种做法非常罕见。

I'm paraphrasing, but it was it was a basically the headline was this is a rare thing to do.

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后来消息传出来,其实谈的是人工智能安全问题。

And it got out that it was about, you know, AI safety.

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我觉得这挺有意思的。

Oh, I thought that was interesting.

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这再次说明,世界正朝这个方向发展。

Again, this is where the world's going.

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这不只是加密货币或者比特币的问题。

And so it's not just a crypto or Bitcoin problem.

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这是全球性的问题。

It's it's a world problem.

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显然,黑客与正义之间的较量,只是换了个战场,现在延伸到了人工智能和量子领域。

And obviously the battle of hackers and good versus evil just continues on into a different arena with AI and quantum.

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不过我这里最后一条是,布莱恩,给咱们节目的朋友们——XRP军团点个赞,他们简直把佐克集团给包场了,那个叫啥来着?

But last last thing I got on the sheet here, Brian, shout out to our friends of the show, the XRP army, absolutely taking over the, the the the Zook, what's that?

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佐克集团。

The, Zook Group.

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对,就是 Resorts World。

Resorts World, that's what it is.

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我去过那儿。

I've been there.

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Resorts World 是拉斯维加斯新开了家酒店,到处都是 XRP 的痕迹。

Resorts World, one of the newer hotels out in Vegas, XRP all over it.

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我们一直都很支持我们的 XRP 家人和朋友们。

And we always love our XRP family and friends.

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我刚才看到一个挺有意思的视频。

And so I actually saw a funny clip.

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这是赌城大道上的画面,等你看完这段,我想听听你的看法。

So this is the strip and I'll get your take on the back end of this clip.

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这是上周比特币大会上的片段。

So this was from Bitcoin conference last week.

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XRP 的广告遍布了度假世界酒店。

XRP paid all over Resorts World.

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而今天刚出了这个新视频。

And then this just came out today.

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这是本周在迈阿密举办的共识大会现场,今天、明天,可能还有周四。

This is a consensus live down in Miami this week, today, tomorrow, and maybe Thursday.

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但我觉得这段XRP首席执行官的视频特别有意思。

But, I thought this was a funny little clip of, of the CEO of XRP.

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我从来不是XRP的狂热支持者。

I've never been an XRP Maxi.

Speaker 0

什么?

It's What?

Speaker 0

他刚才说什么了?

What did what did he say?

Speaker 3

我从来就不是XRP的狂热支持者。

I've never been an XRP Maxi.

Speaker 3

是吗?

It's

Speaker 0

你听到了吗?

Do you hear that?

Speaker 1

他从来就不是XRP的狂热支持者。

Never he was never an XRP Maxi.

Speaker 1

我有点意外。

I'm kind of surprised by that.

Speaker 0

是啊。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我们把完整片段放一下。

Let's do the full clip.

Speaker 3

我从来就不是XRP的狂热支持者。

I've never been an XRP Maxi.

Speaker 3

不会只有一个区块链主导世界。

It's not going to be a one chain world.

Speaker 3

未来会是多链并存的世界。

It's going to be a multi chain world.

Speaker 3

我希望比特币能成功。

I want to see Bitcoin be successful.

Speaker 3

我对XRP生态里发生的一切都很欣赏。

I love what's going on in the XRP ecosystem.

Speaker 3

我从来不是XRP的支持者。

I've never been an XRP.

Speaker 0

明白了。

Alright.

Speaker 0

不是XRP的死忠粉。

Not an XRP maxi.

Speaker 0

市场上有很多项目,我们也都很看好。

There's a lot out there, and we love them too.

Speaker 0

不过,你对这个有什么看法吗?

But, any any thoughts on that?

Speaker 0

我觉得那挺有意思的。

I thought that was fun.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,XRP军团、Ripple军团,真的太厉害了。

I mean, the XRP army, the Ripple army, man, is just they're sort of amazing.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

这简直太疯狂了。

It's it's crazy.

Speaker 1

我记得几年前,有人出国的时候,看到哪里有比特币的标志,比如朋友或家人,就会发照片给我,说‘这里接受比特币’,然后跟我说一声。

I remember just a couple years ago when, like, people would be, like, overseas, so they would see, like, a Bitcoin logo, like, friends and family, and they would, like, send me a picture, like, we accept Bitcoin here, and they would be like, hey.

Speaker 1

那时候大家才开始意识到,加密货币真要起来了。

This crypto thing's starting to catch on.

Speaker 1

现在呢,XRP的标识都贴满了拉斯维加斯。

Now we have XRP just plastered all over Las Vegas.

Speaker 1

很明显,世界正在变化。

Obviously, the world's changing.

Speaker 1

人们对加密货币的兴趣越来越高了。

People are becoming more and more interested in crypto.

Speaker 1

给XRP军团点个赞。

Shout out to the XRP army.

Speaker 1

我之前已经说过好多次了,我本人并不持有它,但我真心支持它。

Again, I've I've stated multiple times I'm not a holder of it, but I'm I'm rooting for it.

Speaker 1

我觉得它完全有可能成功。

I think it could certainly succeed.

Speaker 1

我同意他那个视频里说的,世界不会只有一个区块链。

And I agree with that clip that he said, that the world's not gonna be a one chain world.

Speaker 1

我也同意这个观点,不用深入讨论,但我相信未来会有很多不同的区块链各自找到自己的定位,并且取得成功。

I I also agree with that, and we're not we don't need to go in-depth about that, but I I believe there's going to be a space for a lot of different chains to be very successful and be specialized.

Speaker 1

我支持XRP,但说实话,不管是谁在负责他们的市场和广告,真的把声量推起来了,还成功点燃了粉丝的狂热。

And I'm rooting for XRP, but man, whoever their marketing team is and advertisement agency, I mean, they get the word out, man, and they do get tribalism out there.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

挺有意思的。

It's fun.

Speaker 0

就像支持自己球队一样,尤其是当你投了钱进去的时候。

It's like rooting for your team, especially when you have money invested.

Speaker 0

挺有意思的。

It's fun.

Speaker 0

我们都挺喜欢的。

We love everybody.

Speaker 0

我们喜欢XRP军团。

We love the XRP army.

Speaker 0

我们喜欢整个加密社区,特别是Crypto 101这个群体。

We love the Crypto family and especially the Crypto one zero one family.

Speaker 0

今天就先说到这儿吧。

That's gonna do it for us today.

Speaker 0

不过我想让大家都知道谁还在直播。

However, I want everybody to know who's still live.

Speaker 0

别走开,我来查一下具体时间,我有安排好的。

Tune in let me let me pull the up the exact time because I have it scheduled.

Speaker 0

东部时间下午一点。

1PM Eastern.

Speaker 0

Bryce会现身,难得一见,千万别错过。

We have Bryce, a rare appearance of Bryce on the rundown, so you're not gonna wanna miss that.

Speaker 0

我们来介绍一下新成员,Hunter。

We're introducing our new team member, Hunter.

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他简直就是万能工具,样样都通,从加密货币到技术分析都没问题。

He is a Swiss army knife, a true jack of all trades, everything from crypto to TA.

Speaker 0

人特别聪明,很有想法。

Just a really smart, bright guy.

Speaker 0

想提前看看他是什么风格?去我们YouTube上找他发布的TradingView教程看看吧。

If you wanna get a tease of what he's like, go check out one of the tutorials on our YouTube that he posted for trading view.

Speaker 0

所以周五下午一点东部时间,记得来YouTube看直播,如果没赶上,之后音频也一直都在。

So tune in 1PM Eastern live on YouTube on Friday if you can make it if not always available on the audio on YouTube after.

Speaker 0

非常感谢大家今天周二下午抽空收听。

Really appreciate everybody tuning in on this Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 0

今天就先到这里,我们周五再聊。

That's all for today and we'll talk to you on Friday.

Speaker 0

大家再见。

Bye bye everybody.

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