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你有没有那种感觉，就是快把最爱的补剂用完的时候，突然就觉得这事儿变得特别严重？
You know that feeling when you realize you're almost out of your favorite supplement and suddenly it's a whole situation?
是啊。
Yeah.
谁没经历过啊。
We've all been there.
所以现在正是囤货的好时机。
That's why this is a great time to stock up.
我们的NutraKey客户感恩促销活动将在5月6号到10号举行，这是我们感谢你一路信任我们、让我们陪你走健康之路的方式。
Our NutraKey customer appreciation sale is happening May 6 through the tenth, and it's our way of saying thank you for trusting us to be part of your health and wellness journey.
仅限五天，NutraKey所有产品直接打八五折。
For five days only, enjoy 15% off all NutraKey brand supplements.
趁这机会把最爱的补剂补足吧，比如镁甘氨酸助眠放松、关键胶原蛋白护关节护骨头护皮肤，或者Bifido Balance帮你维持肠道菌群平衡。
It's the perfect time to restock your favorites, like magnesium glyconate for rest and relaxation, key collagen for joints, bones, and skin, or Bifido Balance to support a happy, balanced microbiome.
或者，干脆试试你一直想尝试但还没下手的新产品。
Or maybe try something new you've been curious about.
不管怎样，现在正是好好照顾自己的好时机。
Either way, it's a great time to take care of yourself.
五月期间，去实体店或上 nutrakey.net 购买，还能享受优惠。
Shop in store or online at nutrakey.net, May and save.
我们全体衷心感谢你。
And from all of us, thank you.
好了，咱们正式开始节目吧。
Now let's start the show.
接下来是《营养餐桌》节目，主持人是注册营养师达琳·卡维斯特。
It's time for Dishing Up Nutrition with licensed nutritionist Darlene Kavist.
每周达琳都会告诉你，你吃的东西和身体感受之间到底有什么关系。
Each week, Darlene explains the connection between what you eat and how you feel.
别走开，听听她分享的实用生活妙招，用科学饮食改善健康。
Stay tuned to hear practical, real life solutions for healthier living through good nutrition.
《营养餐桌》
Dishing Up
欢迎收听《营养餐桌》。
Welcome to Dishing Up Nutrition.
如果是新来的听众，这个节目是由我工作的机构——营养体重与健康公司赞助的。
For any new listeners out there, this program is brought to you by Nutritional Weight and Wellness, the company I work for.
我叫卡西·韦尼斯。
My name is Cassie Weness.
我是一名注册并持证的营养师。
I'm a registered and licensed dietitian.
但更重要的是，我是个有两个孩子的妈妈，我知道现在我俩娃正竖着耳朵，等着听自己的名字呢。
But even more importantly, I'm the mom of two kids who I know each have an ear glued to the radio right now waiting to hear their names.
嗨，六岁半的莱利，还有四岁半的瑞西，妈妈在这儿呢！
So hello to Riley, my six and a half year old, and Rissy, my four and a half year old.
也向所有从明尼阿波利斯到伊利诺伊州的听众们问好！
And hello to all of our wonderful listeners out there from Minneapolis to Illinois.
我们甚至还有来自佐治亚州，还有远在大洋彼岸澳大利亚的听众！
We even have listeners in Georgia and all the way across the ocean to Australia.
我们听众遍布全球，真的非常感谢每一位你们。
We have listeners across the world, and we are so very thankful for all of you.
今天早上，我们又要聊一个改变人生营养话题。
And this morning, we have another life changing nutrition topic lined up.
今天的节目要探讨一个问题：你生下来就胰岛素抵抗吗？
Today's show poses the question, were you born insulin resistant?
今天在现场帮我解答这个问题的，是我的同行营养师、也是位妈妈——德哈克。
And in studio with me to help answer this question today is fellow nutritionist and fellow mom, Derhak.
欢迎你，安娜。
Welcome, Anna.
谢谢，卡西。
Thanks, Cassie.
大家早上好。
Good morning, everyone.
我也得给我的三个小天使打个招呼。
And I also have to send a little shout out to my three angels.
嗨，伊莎贝尔、热纳维耶芙和卢卡斯。
So hello, Isabelle and Genevieve and Lucas.
他们大概没在听，不过也没关系。
And they're probably not listening, but that's okay.
哇哦。
Wow.
也许明天他们听重播的时候能听到。
Maybe they'll hear the replay tomorrow.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
没错。
Yeah.
听到自己的名字在广播里出现，挺有意思的。
They it's fun to hear your name on the radio.
对。
Yes.
所以我们今天要聊的话题是：你生下来就胰岛素抵抗吗？
So as we get into the topic today of were you born insulin resistant?
我觉得首先得把胰岛素抵抗定义清楚，这样大家才能对上频道。
I think it's important to first define insulin resistance so we're all on the same page.
对。
Yes.
我同意。
And I agree.
为了让听众真正搞懂胰岛素抵抗是怎么回事，你得先明白健康身体是怎么运作的。
And in order for the listeners to get kind of a really good visual of insulin resistance, you you actually have to know also a good visual of how a healthy body works.
所以我们先说说没有胰岛素抵抗的正常状态。
So one without insulin resistance, that's what we're going for.
咱们来聊聊这个。
So let's talk about it.
健康的身体就是吃均衡饮食的时候。
It's basically a healthy body is when you're feeding it a balanced diet.
比如说，这个健康的身体坐下来吃一份丰盛的蔬菜沙拉。
And let's say this healthy body maybe sits down to a nice big entree salad.
里面有很多绿叶菜、各种蔬菜，旁边再配个四五盎司的牛排，上面淋点意大利香醋汁，懂吧？
So it might have lots of greens, lots of vegetables, maybe four or five ounces of steak on the side, you know, on top of it, and then a nice balsamic vinaigrette.
明白吗？
Okay?
这个健康的身体会把蔬菜里的碳水化合物分解成一点点葡萄糖，也就是糖，都是一回事。
And this healthy body basically breaks down the vegetable carbohydrates into a small amount of glucose and or sugar, same thing.
当身体发现血液里有糖分，就会通知胰腺赶紧分泌胰岛素。
Then when the body detects the sugar in the bloodstream, it sends us a message to the pancreas to hurry up and release insulin.
我想让你们把胰岛素想象成一把钥匙，因为它真的就是一把钥匙。
And I guy I want you guys to think of insulin as a as a key because really it is.
这把钥匙能打开细胞的门。
It's a key that unlocks our doors on our cells.
特别是肌肉细胞，因为我们的能量主要靠它们消耗。
And specifically the muscle cells, because that's where we use it for energy.
所以胰岛素打开细胞的门，把血糖送进去，给肌肉供能。
So insulin opens the doors and thus unloads the blood sugar to fuel your muscle cells.
对。
Right.
Anna刚才说的这套调节机制，在吃均衡饮食——有蛋白质、健康脂肪，还有蔬菜碳水——的健康人身上是运作得很好的。
So this system of checks and balances Anna just described works well in a healthy individual who's eating a well rounded diet of some protein, some healthy fats, and some vegetable carbohydrates.
但典型的美国饮食根本不是这样的。
But the typical American diet does not look like this.
典型的美国饮食碳水化合物太多，说白了就是糖分太高。
The typical American diet is too high in processed carbohydrates, which means high sugar.
没错。
Yes.
长期吃高碳水的饭，身体里积累的糖分太多，细胞都装不下了。
And after too many years of high carb meals, which means years of too much cumulative sugar in the body, the cells become so filled with sugar, they can't hold anymore.
所以为了防止糖分继续过载，肌肉细胞会减少胰岛素受体的数量——你可以想象成，它们把外墙上的门关掉了一些。
So to protect themselves against further sugar overload, the muscle cells reduce the number of insulin receptors, or you can visualize it as they reduce the number of doors on their outer wall.
这样一来，它们就没法再吸收太多糖了。
And that way, they can't handle a lot of sugar.
因为已经装满了，再塞也塞不下。
They can't accept it because they're already full.
门少了，胰岛素也就没法把大量糖分送进去了。
So less doors, and now insulin can't unload a bunch of sugar into them.
这就叫
And this is
胰岛素抵抗。
when you become insulin resistant.
对。
Right.
说得太到位了。
And perfect description.
太棒了。
I love that.
而且这样确实更容易想象整个过程。
And I think it just helps with the visualization of it all.
记住，你的身体会尽全力拖延糖尿病的到来。
And keep in mind, your body will strive to keep diabetes away for as long as it can.
所以当身体因为胰岛素抵抗而出现高血糖时，胰岛素就会把多余的糖分拼命往外排。
So when your body texts this high blood sugar due to the insulin resistance, the response is that insulin dumps the excess blood sugar.
你们猜猜，这些糖最后去哪儿了？
Anybody can guess where it goes?
对啊。
Oh.
送到脂肪细胞里去了。
To our fat cell.
没错，就是中间那儿。
Right the middle.
就在中间附近
Right around
中间。
the middle.
一旦肌肉细胞的门锁死了，身体只能把血糖往脂肪细胞里存，体重想不长都难。
And weight gain comes darn easy when these doors on your muscle cells are locked and your body is basically forced to store blood sugar in your fat cells.
今天早上我们特别请来一位嘉宾，她亲身经历过——当胰岛素抵抗挡路时，想减到健康体重简直难如登天。
And we have a very, very special guest in studio with us this morning that can attest to the fact that it can seem near impossible to reach a healthy weight when insulin resistance is blocking the way.
那现在，欢迎艾米·杨。
So with that, I'd like to welcome Amy Young.
艾米是我营养体重与健康中心的学员，她通过践行‘体重与健康’饮食法，成功逆转了胰岛素抵抗。
Amy is a client of mine at Nutritional Weight and Wellness, and she has had great success eating the Weight and Wellness way in order to heal her insulin resistance.
真谢谢你大清早起来，还拖着你老公从埃尔克里弗开车过来，这么早就赶到。
And we're so glad you got up early, even dragged your husband along this early in the morning to drive in from Elk River.
欢迎你，艾米。
So welcome, Amy.
谢谢。
Thank you.
首先，我要感谢我的朋友卡罗琳，是她推荐我来营养体重与健康中心的。
First of all, I would like to thank my friend Carolyn for referring me to nutritional Oh, weight and Carolyn.
希望她现在在听。
I hope she's listening.
当然，也要特别感谢你，卡西。
And of course, a big thank you to you, Cassie.
还要衷心感谢我丈夫约翰、爸妈和全家人的支持。
Also so thankful for the support of my husband, John, mom and dad, and family.
我也想大声感谢我在埃尔克里弗的同事、客户和朋友们，谢谢你们一直听着。
I want to shout a thank you to my Elk River coworkers, customers, and friends for listening.
我们知道你朋友可真不少。
And we know you have a lot of them.
谢谢。
Thank you.
我希望他们都听到了。
And I hope they're all listening.
如果没有，就像你说的，他们可能明天会听。
If not, like you said, they might be listening
明天早上六点重播的时候，他们就会听到了。
tomorrow at 06:00 when it's reran.
我真得跟大家分享一下。
I just have to share.
你知道吗，艾米已经给我看了好一阵子了，我刚认识她的时候，根本不知道她是谁。
You know, Amy's been seeing me for a while, and I didn't know her from Adam when I first met her.
但我们埃尔克河的前台一见到你，就跟我讲：‘哦，艾米认识所有人。’
But right away, when our receptionist from Elk River saw you, she said to me, oh, Amy knows everybody.
这周我打电话给安娜聊电台节目，她说：‘我觉得我爸爸也认识艾米。’
And then when I call Anna this week to talk about the radio show, she says, I think my dad knows Amy.
我的意思是
I mean
太棒了。
It is great.
如果你还不认识我，那你真该
And if you don't know me, you wanna
认识认识我。
know me.
是的。
Yeah.
你听两次就会了解她了。
You will know her after two.
了解我。
Will know me.
对吧？
Right?
Amy，跟你聊聊你的故事吧。
So tell a little bit about your story, Amy.
当然。
Sure.
我八岁的时候就已经有二百磅了。
Well, I was two hundred pounds by age eight.
我们试过无数种减肥方法。
We're on numerous diets.
直到你成年了，体重还是减不掉、也保持不住，直到我开始吃真正的食物，保持均衡饮食。
By the time you reached adulthood, we're never able to take the weight completely off and keep it off until the weight and wellness plan of real food in balance.
那你到现在一共减了多少磅？
And you lost a total of how many pounds as of
我总共减了142磅。
A 142 pounds total I've lost.
天啊。
Wow.
真的吗。
Wow.
太厉害了。
Amazing.
真棒。
That is awesome.
不过说实话，这142斤里，最后那50斤才是靠我自己和这个营养健康法减下来的。
Now full disclosure, only the last 50 of those pounds were with the help of myself and the nutritional weight and wellness way.
但那最后的50斤可真难搞，对吧？
But those were a stubborn last 50 pounds, weren't they?
没错。
Yes.
对啊。
Yeah.
正是这最后的50斤，让我们得升级策略，真正去解决你的胰岛素抵抗问题。
And it was with those last 50 that we had to take it to the next level and really work to heal your insulin resistance.
没错。
Right.
我现在体重比八岁的时候还轻。
And I now weigh less than I did when I was eight years old.
要没有营养体重与健康法，我根本做不到。
And I couldn't have done it without nutritional weight and wellness.
能遇到你们，我觉得自己特别幸运。
And I feel so very blessed to have found all of you.
但有时候我会想，要是小时候有人给我希望和帮助，像你们现在这样，我的人生会不会不一样？
But there have been a few times when I've wondered what life would have been like if someone had given me the hope and the help you have when I was a child.
你知不知道，八岁就二百磅是什么感觉？
I mean, do you know what it felt like to be two hundred pounds at age eight?
小时候被带到减肥中心，我总在想：我怎么就变成这样了？
To be taken to a diet center and to keep wondering when I was a child, why am I like this?
我到底做错了什么？
What am I possibly doing wrong?
我真的没吃很多。
I don't overeat.
我妈妈给我吃的是健康食物。
My mom feeds me healthy foods.
没错。
Right.
我记得你第一次跟我说你从来不是暴食的人，那时候我就特别惊讶。
Isn't I mean, I remember the first time you you you told me that, that you never were an overeater.
小孩子本来就很能吃啊。
You know, kids eat a lot.
小孩吃得再多也不稀奇，可你吃的并不比别人多。
Kids can eat a lot, and you weren't eating more than your counterparts.
我真没法想象，那时候你心里得有多难受。
I just can't even imagine what that was like emotionally.
你想想看。
Oh, and picture this.
穿着新买的校服，提着一个印着‘大码之家’字样的购物袋，走在商场里。
Walking down the mall corridor with my new school clothes and a shopping bag with the words house of large sizes written across the front.
我的天，谁会给店起名叫‘大码之家’啊？
I mean, who names their store house of large sizes?
他们早就关门了。
Well, they're no longer in business.
对吧？
Right?
我们之前聊过这事。
They we talked about that.
我觉得他们压根儿没请营销总监，就算有，也肯定不咋地。
Don't think they had a marketing director, or if they did not, a very good one.
我觉得童年对谁都不容易，但要是特别胖还不明白为啥，那真的太难熬了。
I don't think childhood is easy for anyone, but being extremely overweight and not understanding why made it all so much harder.
当艾米来见我，跟我讲了她刚才跟大家说的那些事时，我坐着听，突然就明白了——天啊，我觉得艾米打小就有胰岛素抵抗。
When Amy came to see me and told me the story she has shared with all of you, as I sat there listening, I it just dawned on me that, oh my gosh, I think Amy was born with insulin resistance.
那天在办公室，我就跟你说过这话。
And I said that to you that day in the office.
你生下来就是胰岛素抵抗的。
You must have been born insulin resistant.
不过我之前可能没跟你说过这部分，但说实话，那时候我也不确定这在生化上是不是真的可能。
Now I don't think I ever said this part to you, but the truth is at the time, I didn't know if that was biochemically possible or not.
你们俩离开办公室后，我查了一些资料，发现好几项研究都表明：在今天这个精制碳水泛滥的时代，人确实可能天生就胰岛素抵抗。
So after you and John left the office, I did a little digging, and I found several research studies pointing to the fact that, yes, in today's day and age of processed carbs, you can be born insulin resistant.
所以啊，艾米，你也好，很多听节目的人也好，其实都是生下来就输在起跑线上了。
So, you know, Amy, yourself, a lot of I'm sure a lot of people listening, you were kind of born behind the eight ball.
你打出生起就处于劣势。
You were born at a disadvantage.
没错。
Exactly.
是的。
Mhmm.
我手头有点研究资料，想跟你们分享一下。
I have a little research in front of me, so I wanna I wanna share with that with you.
这项研究来自《营养学杂志》。
And it comes from the Journal of Nutrition.
发表于2003年。
It was published in 2003.
这项研究主要想探讨，母亲如果胰岛素抵抗，会对胎儿发育产生什么影响。
And this study basically set out to look at, at least in part, the implications for the developing baby or fetus of a mother with insulin resistance.
研究数据表明，如果妈妈有胰岛素抵抗，宝宝在子宫里长出的脂肪量会比妈妈胰岛素正常的孩子多。
So the data from the study supports the idea that if the mother has insulin resistance, the baby is likely to develop more fat mass and utero than the baby of a mother without insulin resistance.
出生时多出来的这些脂肪，会让孩子长大后更容易肥胖，也更容易出现胰岛素抵抗。
And this extra fat tissue at birth appears to increase the risk that these babies will be obese as children and will also have insulin resistance themselves.
没错。
Right.
这项研究还提到了遗传因素，而且主要来自妈妈那边。
And in this study, they did also talk about a genetic influence and that genetic influence comes mainly from the mother.
确实有一些基因在起作用，但最关键的因素还是妈妈怀孕时有没有胰岛素抵抗——这直接决定了孩子小时候和青春期会不会容易胖、会不会胰岛素抵抗。
So there are some genes involved here, but again, a large determinant of which babies are prone to insulin resistance and obesity as kids and as teenagers is whether or not the mother has insulin resistance during pregnancy.
对。
Right.
你不一定非得超重才会胰岛素抵抗，尤其是怀孕的时候，因为你的身体本来就在为宝宝多分泌一些胰岛素。
And you don't have to be overweight to become insulin resistant, especially during pregnancy because your body's already pumping out a little more insulin for the baby.
说到底，还是食物的力量——吃啥真的很重要。
So it, you know, it all comes back to the power of food and the fact that food matters.
如果有正在怀孕的听众，或者正打算备孕的，别忘了，你今天吃进嘴里的每一口食物，都会影响宝宝未来好多年的健康。
You know, if there are any pregnant listeners out there or those of you who wanna conceive right now, know that the foods you are choosing to put in your mouth today will affect the health of your baby for years to come.
没错。
Mhmm.
不只是现在。
Not just right now.
如果有听众和我一样，生来就有胰岛素抵抗，那我要说，你这么多年来减肥这么难，真不是你的错。
And if there are listeners out there like me who were born insulin resistant, know that your struggle with weight all of these years is not your fault.
当卡西告诉我‘你生来就有胰岛素抵抗’的时候，我整个人都轻松了，压在心里多年的石头终于落地了。
It was so liberating, such a chip off my shoulders when Cassie said to me, you were born insulin resistant.
这是我第一次听到有人证实了我一直怀疑的事——我身上这副肥胖的身子，并不是我自己造出来的。
For the first time, someone verified what I had suspected all along, and that is that I hadn't created the obese body I was walking around in.
我八岁就严重肥胖，可不是因为我吃太多才变成这样的。
The fact that I was morbidly obese by age eight was not because I had eaten my way there.
对。
Right.
不过各位，咱们该歇会儿了。
But you guys, it's time for our first break.
这么快就到了？
Already.
是啊。
Yeah.
我懂。
I know.
你现在收听的是《营养聊聊天》。
So you're listening to Dishing Up Nutrition.
别走开，回来后，卡西会跟大家分享一些关于体重增长和像普雷瓦提到的抗酸药之间关系的有趣研究。
Do stay with us because when we come back, Cassie has some interesting research she'd like to share regarding weight gain and use of antacids like Preva said.
如果你今天想参与我们和艾米·杨关于天生胰岛素抵抗的讨论，可以拨打电台热线：651-641-1071。
So, and if you'd like to join our conversation today with Amy Young about being born insulin resistant, you can call us here at the station at (651) 641-1071.
马上回来。
Be right back.
事情要是简单，咱们就说它是小菜一碟，或者易如反掌。
When something is simple, it's called a cakewalk or easy as pie.
挺有意思的是，居然没有哪个减肥法叫‘易如反掌饮食’。
Funny how there's no easy as pie diet.
但现在，真有一个让减重变简单的计划了。
But now there is a plan to make shedding pounds simpler.
它叫‘营养减重法’。
It's called Nutrition for Weight Loss.
没错，就是用营养来减重。
That's right, using nutrition for weight loss.
由Nutritional Weight and Wellness的营养专家打造，‘营养减重计划’会教你如何瘦身并长期保持身材。
Created by the nutrition experts at Nutritional Weight and Wellness, Nutrition for Weight Loss will teach you the secret to losing weight and keeping it off.
这个计划会为你量身定制一套专属方案。
Nutrition for Weight Loss will create a personalized plan for you.
它能提升你的新陈代谢，帮你更高效地燃烧卡路里。
It will bump up your metabolism to help you burn more calories.
而且不用吃那些冷冻预制餐或液体代餐。
And there's no frozen prepackaged or liquid meals.
你吃的是实实在在的真食物。
You eat real food.
跟着营养减重计划走，你永远不会觉得饿得发慌、没精神。
With nutrition for weight loss, you never get that hungry haggard feeling.
这个项目结合了最新的营养科学，让你吃得饱、吃得满足，精力也会明显回升。
The program uses the latest in nutritional science to keep you feeling satisfied, and you'll love the bounce in your energy level.
想了解更多关于营养减重的信息吗？
Find out more about nutrition for weight loss.
拨打 (651) 699-3438 或上官网咨询。
Call (651) 699-3438 or online.
网址是 weightandwellness.com。
It's weightandwellness.com.
就是 weightandwellness.com。
That's weightandwellness.com.
想拥有理想身材？其实没那么难，营养减重法帮你轻松搞定。
Getting the body you want is easier than you think with nutrition for weight loss.
欢迎回来。
Welcome
继续收听《营养餐桌》。
back to Dishing Up Nutrition.
我是卡西·韦尼斯，营养与健康中心的注册持证营养师和营养顾问。
I'm Cassie Weness, registered and licensed dietitian and nutrition counselor at Nutritional Weight and Wellness.
今天我请来了我的同事安娜·德哈克。
And I'm here today with my colleague, Anna Derhak.
Anna是持证营养师，也是营养咨询师，就在我们这儿工作。
Anna is a licensed nutritionist and also a nutrition counselor at Nutritional Weight and Wellness.
如果你刚加入我们，今天现场还有一位特别嘉宾——艾米·杨。
And if you're just joining us, we have a special guest in studio with us today, Amy Young.
艾米是我的客户，她就是个活生生的例子，证明了只要方法对，胰岛素抵抗真的能逆转，顽固脂肪也能甩掉。
Amy is a client of mine at Nutritional Weight and Wellness, and she is really the poster child for the fact that you can successfully heal insulin resistance and get that stubborn weight off.
如果你还没听说，今天我们的话题是：你生来就胰岛素抵抗吗？
So if you haven't heard already, our topic today is were you born insulin resistant?
我们觉得艾米确实天生如此，但她成功克服了，总共减了142磅。
And we believe our guest Amy was, but she has overcome it and has lost a total of one and forty two I pounds.
我刚才写的是142磅，可一看自己写的，我都愣了：真的假的？
Have that written down, but as I'm looking at it, I'm going, really?
是142磅，不是142。
It was one hundred and forty two.
这太了不起了。
That is amazing.
我们休息前，Anna 提到我还有另一项研究。
Now when we went to break, Anna mentioned I have yet another research study.
老板肯定爱听这期节目，咱们这儿研究一堆，我知道 Dar 就喜欢听这个。
The boss should be loving this show because we got lots of research in here, and I know Dar likes to hear that.
这项研究讲的是长期使用抗酸药的副作用。
So this is a research study regarding the ill effects of long term antacid use.
这项研究 2009 年发表在《世界胃肠病学杂志》上，发现长期使用质子泵抑制剂这类抗酸药，跟胃食管反流病患者的体重异常增加有关。
This study was published back in 2009 in the World Journal of Gastroenterology, and it showed that long term use of the class of antacids called proton pump inhibitors correlates with an undesired rise in body weight in patients with GERD or the longer term is gastroesophageal reflux disease.
如果你想知道哪些药属于质子泵抑制剂，比如普利妥（Prilosec），或者它的通用名奥美拉唑（omeprazole）。
Now those of you wondering what drugs fall into this class of proton pump inhibitors, it's ones like Prilosec or the generic of that is called omeprazole.
还有倍林达（Prevacid）也是。
Prevacid is another one.
还有阿西弗克斯（Acifex）也是。
Acifex is another one.
有意思的是，即使研究对象都得到了临床人员关于饮食和运动的指导，他们还是出现了体重增加。
Now this unwanted weight gain occurred even though the subjects in the study were getting advice from the clinic staff on diet and exercise.
所以这又是另一个理由，提醒大家尽量避开这类药物。
So yet another reason to try your best to steer clear of this ugly class of drugs.
今天能和你们一起直播，我特别激动，主要是想给那些在减肥路上挣扎、可能天生就有胰岛素抵抗的人带去一点希望。
I have been so excited to be on air with you this morning, mainly for the purpose of spreading hope to those struggling with their weight and possibly struggling with insulin resistance that was there from birth.
今天我们能有你一起做节目，真的太好了。
Well, we are so glad to have you on air today with us.
对啊。
Yes.
说实话，我也不确定。
And I don't know.
你这回怕是要抢风头了，老板说不定
You might steal the show and boss will
根本都察觉不到。
just never know.
老板以后肯定天天都让你上节目。
Boss will just put her on every day.
嗯，
Well
关于这个话题，其实还有更多研究呢。
and there's more research out there too on this topic.
我刚开始在谷歌学术上搜了搜，结果冒出的资料比我想象的多太多了。
As I started doing some Google searches on Google Scholar, there was more than I ever imagined popping up.
我还想引述一篇别的。
And I have another one I wanna quote.
这篇来自《巴基斯坦医学会杂志》，是2009年7月发表的。
This one comes from the Journal of Pakistan Medical Association and it was published in July 2009.
标题叫《母婴慢性疾病的先兆》。
The title is A Forerunner of Chronic Disorders in Mother and Child.
这项研究虽然覆盖了普通人群，但特别聚焦南亚裔女性，因为这个族群天生更容易得妊娠糖尿病。
Now this study is looking at the population at large, but then it also zeroes in on women of South Asian descent because this ethnic group is genetically increased risk of developing gestational diabetes.
研究估计，如果妈妈在孕期得过妊娠糖尿病，孩子五岁左右就可能出现代谢综合征了。
This research study estimates that kids as young as five years old can have what's called metabolic syndrome if their mother had gestational diabetes.
妊娠糖尿病的核心问题其实是胰岛素抵抗。
Now at the core of gestational diabetes is insulin resistance.
你说对吧？
Right?
你想想看啊。
So think about this.
要是你啊……我该怎么说才好呢？
If you're what should I say?
像我和艾米这么小吗？
As young as Amy and I?
安娜，如果你三十多岁、四十出头的话，这个情况...我还真不太确定。
You know, if you're late thirties, early forties, Anna, you I I'm just not sure.
你还年轻着呢。
You're you're a youngin'.
但如果你现在三十多岁或四十出头，当年我们妈妈怀我们的时候，根本不做妊娠期糖尿病筛查。
But if you're in your late thirties or early forties, when our moms were pregnant with us, they weren't testing for gestational diabetes.
所以，我们这一代很多女性的妈妈，很可能当年怀她们的时候就得了妊娠糖尿病，也就是胰岛素抵抗特别严重。
So it very well could be that there are a lot of women in our age group whose mothers had gestational diabetes, in essence, had that insulin resistance to the nth degree.
你懂的吧？
You know?
然后你生下来的孩子，很可能天生就有胰岛素抵抗。
And then you have this baby that is likely born with insulin resistance.
所以，听节目的朋友们，不妨想想这个问题。
So for any listeners out there, give that some thought.
你有没有想过，你妈当年是不是也得了妊娠糖尿病，所以你一出生就带着胰岛素抵抗？
Do you suppose your mother could have had gestational diabetes and then you were born with insulin resistance because of this?
对啊。
Right.
这完全有可能。
And it's very possible.
卡西，你之前提到，研究显示，母亲有妊娠糖尿病的孩子，长大后更容易出现代谢综合征。
And Cassie, you mentioned that this research showed young kids born to mothers with the gestational diabetes can be at an increased risk of developing metabolic syndrome.
对。
Mhmm.
对于不太了解‘代谢综合征’这个术语的听众来说，简单说就是一组相互关联的健康问题，比如腰腹部脂肪堆积，这通常是由胰岛素抵抗引起的。
So for any of the listeners who aren't really familiar with the term metabolic syndrome, it it's basically a cluster of conditions, including excess weight around the middle, so leading to insulin or because of insulin resistance.
那就是你的胰岛素
That's your insulin
血糖仪，对，胰岛素血糖仪，还有高血糖、血脂异常，可能还有高血压。
meter, Yeah, insulin meter, high blood sugars, abnormal cholesterol levels and possibly high blood pressure.
但这里关键的是，这和妊娠糖尿病或者任何类型的糖尿病问题都是一样的。
But what's important here is same thing with gestational diabetes or any type of diabetes issue.
代谢综合征的核心就是胰岛素抵抗。
The core of metabolic syndrome is insulin resistance.
没错。
So Right.
当我找到营养、体重和健康这三者结合的方法，终于找到一种能长期坚持的饮食方式时，我就明白了。
I knew when I found nutritional weight and wellness and finally found a successful way of eating that I could incorporate for a lifetime.
我心里清楚，我生来就是要传播这个理念的。
I knew in my heart I was meant to spread the word.
所以，不管是正在听的年轻孩子、青少年，还是孕妇，甚至你已经八十多岁了，觉得自己腰上还多出几圈肉，我都想说：你真的得想想，今天吃进嘴里的东西，正在怎么影响你现在的健康，还有未来的日子。
So if there are young kids listening or if there are teenagers out there relating to my story or pregnant women or heck, even if you're eight your eighties and think you have a spare tire or two to lose, I'm testimonial to the fact that you need to start thinking about how the foods you're choosing to put in your mouth today are affecting your health now and for years to come.
Amy，我知道你的故事触动了很多人，因为你刚才说的时候，我就想到我有几个孩子是听你讲的，他们还是我的客户，我知道他们是一起和妈妈听的。
And, Amy, I know your story is reaching a lot of people because as you said that, I mean, I know I have a couple of kids that listen, and they they're clients of mine, and I know they listen with their moms.
肯定有不少青少年在听呢。
Certainly, there's gotta be some teenagers out there.
我有个特别可爱的客户，都八十多岁了，还在努力减掉那点小肚腩。
And I have the cutest client in her eighties that is still trying to lose that little extra belly fat.
所以说，胰岛素抵抗影响的，是所有年龄段的人。
So, you know, it's all age ranges that can be affected by insulin resistance.
希望今天这个故事，能给一些人带来改变。
And hopefully, this story today is making a difference for some of you.
说到孕妇这个群体，Anna，我们办公室里一提到宝宝的健康和营养，我第一个想到的就是你，你可是这方面的专家。
And when we talk about this category of pregnant ladies, you know, Anna, I always think of you as the baby maven at our office it comes to the health and and the nutrition of babies.
对。
Mhmm.
我不懂的时候，就靠你了。
If I don't know the answer, I turn to you.
说到胰岛素抵抗和宝宝，你有什么看法？
So what are your thoughts as you think of that topic of insulin resistance and babies?
我坚信，怀孕前的那几年特别关键。
Well, I'm a firm believer that those pre pregnancy years are definitely a very important time for that.
你其实想的是，把宝宝好好地养在肚子里。
You actually want to start, you know, carrying that baby inside.
在怀孕前，一定要确保自己的身体状态是健康的。
Like you want to make sure that before you conceive, you have a healthy body.
不管是提前三个月、四个月还是六个月，只要妈妈吃得健康，不仅能保证顺利分娩和宝宝健康，还能影响孩子一辈子的健康。
So whether it's three or four or six months, before, and if the mother is eating well, it won't it will not only ensure a healthy delivery and a healthy baby, but also the long term effects of that baby's health.
所以
So
那我们要不要先拿个项圈？
So Say, should we take a collar?
要的。
Yes.
我们有项圈。
We have a collar.
等一下。
Hang on a second.
早上好，Cathy。
Good morning, Cathy.
欢迎来到《营养餐桌》。
Welcome to Dishing Up Nutrition.
你有什么问题想问我们吗？
Did you have a question for us?
Cathy？
Cathy?
早上好。
Good morning.
有人在吗？
Is somebody there?
哦，在的。
Oh, yes.
哦，你好。
Oh, hello.
早上好。
Good morning.
你好。
Hello.
今天咱们可能说话声音有点小了。
We might be talking too soft here today.
得开始喊了。
We're gonna have to start shouting.
你们能听见吗？
Can you hear us?
没关系。
That's okay.
雨下得真大。
It's raining really hard.
我刚才没听清。
I couldn't hear.
但我在想，小孩会不会从小就对胰岛素产生抵抗？
But, I'm wondering if you can be made insulin resistant as a child.
我的经历跟艾米完全相反。
My story is just the opposite of Amy's.
我前十年特别遭罪，瘦得皮包骨，走到哪儿都听见人说：‘这孩子怎么不喂饱点啊’，诸如此类的话。
For the first ten years of my life, I was humiliated because I was just bone thin and everywhere I went I would hear people say, Don't you feed that child or blah, blah, blah.
我记得我妈和我奶奶总说：‘得想办法让她长胖点。’
And I remember my mom and my grandma always saying, We've got to fatten her up.
十岁那年我得了风湿热，住了六个月的奶奶家，她天天给我吃蛋糕、派，啥都往我这儿塞，结果真把我喂胖了。
At 10 I got rheumatic fever and stayed with my grandma for about six months and she fed me cakes and pies and everything, and they did fatten me up.
现在我呢，大概胖了五十磅，但我一直在想，我小时候那么瘦，怎么就变成这样了。
And now I'm, you know, about fifty pounds overweight, but I'm wondering being I started out as such a thin child.
你小时候有多重？知道吗？
Were you as a baby, do you know your baby weight?
我那时候可小了。
I was little.
我早产了点。
I was a little bit early.
就五磅多一点吧。
I was like five pounds and something.
那肯定的。
Oh, absolutely.
答案绝对是肯定的，这种问题确实可能后来才出现的。
The answer is a huge yes that, you know, that could have been created later.
我刚才之所以问你出生时的体重，是因为我为了做这期节目查资料的时候，看到有研究专门讨论早产儿的相关问题。
And it seems to me the reason why I asked what your baby weight was, when I was digging through all this research for the show, there was research out there also talking about premature babies.
安娜，你之前有听过这类说法吗？
Have you heard anything about that, Anna?
艾米，你也是早产儿吗？
You a premature baby, Amy?
好的，我明白了。
Yeah, I Okay.
具体的原理我记不太清了
Making Something and I forget how that science went.
好像是说身体里有什么类似的代谢机制会引发这种情况，而且确实存在关联——就像孕期血糖控制不佳的糖尿病患者，生下的宝宝脂肪量容易超标一样，早产宝宝童年时期也更有可能出现胰岛素抵抗
If it was something about the ketchup process that that little body goes through, but there was some correlation, just as there is with a baby with too much fat mass born to somebody with uncontrolled diabetes, there's also a correlation to premature babies developing insulin resistance in childhood.
所以你身上的情况完全说得通，毕竟不管你是多大年纪开始摄入太多高糖高脂的食物——不管是10岁就遇上这事，还是到三四十岁才天天有人给你塞蛋糕派这类的东西
So it certainly sounds like that that was you because no matter what your age, whether this happens when you're 10 or whether it's not till you're 30 or 40 that you get pushed the cakes and pies
堆在你面前让你吃
in front of you.
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对。
Right.
你知道吗，当你身体一下子被太多这种容易转化成糖的食物猛攻，想想看，你的肌肉细胞外面就像有好多小门，糖分就是靠这些门进去的。
You know, when you get your when your system is bombarded too much, too fast with all of these foods that turn to a lot of sugar, again, think of your muscle cells as having these little doors around the outsides of them that let the sugar in.
但如果你老是给肌肉细胞塞太多糖，身体就会自动关掉一些门，因为它实在扛不住更多糖了。
But when you're constantly overloading your muscle cells, your body in response gets rid of some of the doors because it can't handle much more sugar.
对。
Right.
这样一来你就对胰岛素产生抵抗了，身体没法把糖送进肌肉，就只能赶紧把糖全存进脂肪里。
And then you're resistant to insulin, meaning your body's going to get that sugar out of your bloodstream and into your fat stores really easily because it can't fit it into your muscle.
对。
Right.
挺奇怪的是，我十岁以前特别瘦，根本不是那种爱吃甜食的孩子。
And the the odd thing is is, you know, again, up till ten, when I was this little skinny child, I I wasn't a kid that liked sweets or anything like that.
没错。
So Right.
是的
Yep.
对
Yeah.
我知道他们特别管用。
And I know they mount well.
没错。
It's just Right.
完全正确。
Absolutely.
我小时候得过扁桃体炎之类的病，他们就觉得是因为我太瘦了，反正就想尽办法让我长胖，觉得这样我才健康。
I had tonsillitis and different stuff, and it just was all they all they thought it was just because I was too thin, you know, and just fat me up any way they could and I would be healthier.
我知道他们真的是
And, you know, I know they really
他们是好心。
They meant well.
他们是为你好。
They meant well.
没错。
Exactly.
好问题啊。
Well, good question.
我们希望这个节目能给你带来一些希望，不管你现在处于什么状态，都能改善胰岛素抵抗。
And and we hope this show gives you some hope that no matter where you're at in life, you can heal this insulin resistance.
对。
Yes.
我正试着像你这样吃，希望也能见效。
I'm I'm trying to eat like yourself, so hopefully.
好的。
Okay.
谢谢你打电话来。
Well, you for calling.
是啊。
Uh-huh.
你懂的。
You know?
我觉得还有一点值得思考，我们做这个节目，就是为了让大家明白，就像她说的，她爸妈、奶奶、姑姑们，都是好心。
And I think something to think about too, that that's the reason why we do this show is to to educate people because like she said, her parents, her grandma, her aunts, they meant well.
没错。
Yep.
但方法真不太对。
But it wasn't really the right approach.
对。
Right.
你看，我们可能可以歇一会儿了。
See, probably we'll we'll take it we can we can take a break.
咱们休息一下吧。
Let's take a break.
不然我还想多聊聊西方的分娩习俗和哺乳传统，真要展开说，话题容易扯太远。
Because otherwise, I wanna talk a bit more about Western A prides and nursing traditions, and we'll we'll get a little long winded if we get into that We
那可就真扯远了。
could get a really, really long winded.
好的。
Okay.
别走开，回来后你会听到更多艾米·杨关于先天胰岛素抵抗的精彩对话，特别有意思。
So stay with us because when we come back, you'll hear more of this fun and informative conversation with Amy Young regarding being born with insulin resistance.
回来后，卡西还会跟大家分享一些超值的夏日优惠。
And also when we come back, Cassie has some hot summer deals to share with you.
如果你今天有关于胰岛素抵抗的问题，欢迎拨打直播间热线：651-641-1071。
So if you have questions for us today about insulin resistance, call us at the studio, (651) 641-1071.
记得拨...
Be at
My Talk 1071。
My Talk 1071.
好的。
Alright.
艾米现在正在演播室里大放异彩呢。
Amy's rocking out here in the studio.
没错。
That's right.
这可是
It's a
有点儿迪斯科的味道。
little disco time.
不是。
No.
迪斯科。
Disco.
我这话说得有点儿过时了。
That dated me.
欢迎回来，你和我。
Welcome back, you and I.
没错。
Exactly.
是的。
Yeah.
你刚加入进来，正在收听《挖掘营养》，谁能想到呢？
You're just tuning in, you're listening to Digging Up Nutrition, who would have guessed?
本节目由营养体重与健康公司倾情呈现。
Brought to you by Nutritional Weight and Wellness.
我们是一家专注于改变人生的营养机构。
We are a company specializing in life changing nutrition.
我是卡西·韦尼斯，今天和安娜·德哈克一起。
I'm Cassie Weness, and I'm here with Anna Derhak.
我们俩都是营养体重与健康公司的营养顾问和教育者，聊聊那些能改变人生的食物营养。
We're both nutrition counselors and educators at Nutritional Weight and Wellness and talk about life changing nutrition.
今天我们请来了来自明尼苏达州埃尔克里弗的艾米·杨，她通过饮食改善胰岛素抵抗，总共减掉了142磅。
We're joined today by Amy Young of Elk River, Minnesota, who is eating to heal her insulin resistance and has lost a total of 142 pounds.
你减掉的体重都快相当于一个人了。
You lost a whole person.
没错。
That's right.
天哪。
Wow.
如果你也想体验这种改变人生的饮食方式，我来跟你说说几点。
And if you're interested in experiencing this same life changing nutrition, couple of things here.
首先，我要介绍一下我们新推出的减重营养课程系列。
First, I want to tell you about our new nutrition for or the newest series being started in regards to our nutrition for weight loss series.
要是我能把这句话顺溜地说出来，那就太好了。
If I can get these words spit out of my mouth, it'll be good.
这周三在枫树岭，我们的减重营养课程就要开课了，晚上6点半开始。
May in Maple Grove this week on Wednesday, the nutrition for weight loss series is starting Wednesday night at 06:30PM.
如果你想了解我们的嘉宾艾米所掌握的健康秘诀，不妨考虑报名参加这个课程。
So if you wanna learn some of the secrets to great health that our guest Amy has learned, do think about signing up for this series.
这个课程一共持续十二周。
It's a twelve week series.
每周三晚上花一小时来参加就行。
You meet for one hour every Wednesday night.
吃的是真食物，学的是真营养，收获的是真效果。
It's real food and it's real nutrition, and you get real results.
除了十二周的课程，报名后你还会额外获得两次单独的一对一营养咨询，每次一小时。
And in addition to the twelve week weeks of classes, when you sign up, you also get two separate one hour individual consultations with a nutritionist.
我们真的是尽全力提供你成功所需的一切资源。
So we're really trying our best to give you the resources that you need to succeed.
安娜刚才提到，我得跟大家说说我们这个夏日特惠活动。
And Anna mentioned that I was gonna tell you about our hot summer deal.
对。
Mhmm.
今天晚上会特别热，我跟你说。
And it's gonna be hot later today, I'll tell you.
你肯定想待在空调底下不动了。
You're gonna be want wanting to be by air conditioning.
但我们的夏季买一送一课程优惠还在继续，就是我们自己办的两小时课程。
But we still are running our two for one summer class special, and those are our two hour classes.
我们说的买一送一，不是社区教育那种，是我们自家办的课。
When we say our two for one classes, not community ed, but the ones that we teach in house.
你要是和朋友一起报名，你付25美元的正常课程费，朋友就能免费一起来。
So if you sign up with a friend, you can get in for the regular regular class rate of 25 and your friend can come with for free.
这周二，7月24号，我们要开一门课，叫《远离糖尿病危机》。
So coming up this Tuesday, July 24, we have avoiding the diabetes epidemic.
这课在我们的圣保罗办公室开，晚上6点半到8点半。
This is being taught at our Saint Paul office from 06:30 to 08:30 in the evening.
这周四，7月26号，我们新开的《健康无麸质饮食》课还有几个空位。
And then this Thursday, July 26, we still have a few openings for our new class titled Going Gluten Free the Healthy Way.
这节课由艾米·蕾妮在北橡树校区晚上6点半授课。
Amy Renee will be teaching this at 06:30PM at our North Oaks office.
周五27号，减压课在韦扎塔开课，中午开始。
And then Friday, the twenty seventh, our stress busting class will be taught in Wayzata starting at noon.
这只是其中几门课。
Now these are just a couple of them.
还有很多别的课程呢。
There are more out there.
想看完整课程表？上我们的网站 weightandwellness.com 就行。
So if you wanna read the full class lineup, you can go to our website at weightandwellness.com.
那儿也能直接报名，方便得很。
You can also register for any classes there if you'd like.
要是你更想打电话，早上给圣保罗那边的姑娘们打个电话，她们能帮你答疑，也能帮你登记。
Or if you'd rather call the ladies in Saint Paul this morning, they can give you more information or they can sign you up if you wanna do it by phone.
圣保罗
The St.
圣保罗办公室的电话是 (651) 699-3438。
Paul office number is (651) 699-3438.
另外，今天如果你想加入我们的讨论，可以拨打这个号码：(651) 641-1071。
And again, if you want to join our conversation today, the number here is (651) 641-1071.
有位聪明的医生曾经说过：今天，你就是你自己。
A wise doctor once said, Today you are you.
这话再真不过了。
That's truer than true.
世上没人比你更像你自己。
There is no one alive who is youer than you.
这位医生呢，就是苏斯博士。
The doctor in question was Doctor.
我敢打赌，他一定会喜欢营养与健康中心那种态度和做法。
Seuss, and I bet he would like the attitude and approach they use at nutritional weight and wellness.
二十多年来，那些持证营养师、注册营养师和营养教育者一直是一对一地辅导客户。
For more than twenty five years, the licensed nutritionist, registered dietitians, and nutrition educators have worked one on one with clients.
因为他们知道，没人比你更独一无二，所以他们会为你量身定制饮食计划，专门应对你的需求、你的身体状况和健康问题。
Because they know no one is youer than you, they will come up with an individualized eating plan that addresses your needs, your body, your health concerns.
他们靠的是科学依据，更在乎你，能帮你成为最棒、最健康、最有活力的自己。
Because they use research based knowledge and because they care, they can guide you to be the best, healthiest, most energetic you you can be.
来他们在双子城的任意一家办公室做个咨询，或者直接电话预约一次咨询。
Come into one of their Twin Cities based office locations for a consultation or schedule a counseling session over the phone.
营养体重与健康。
Nutritional Weight and Wellness.
拨打 (651) 699-3438 找他们。
Call them at (651) 699-3438.
就是 (651) 699-3438，或者上 weightandwellness.com 网站。
That's (651) 699-3438 or go to weightandwellness.com.
他们一定能帮你看到成效。
They will get results for you.
真的没错。
It's true.
营养体重与健康中心现在在枫树谷也开门了。
Nutritional Weight and Wellness is now open in Maple Grove.
今天就打给他们吧，号码是(651) 699-3438。
Call them today at (651) 699-3438.
好的。
Alright.
卡西，咱们上个 breaks 前不是正聊到怎么怀个健康宝宝、顺顺利利生下来，还有这些事儿该咋准备嘛。
Well, Cassie, before we went to break, we were kind of, talking about a healthy baby, healthy delivery, and kinda what goes into that.
你提到了韦斯顿·A。
And you mentioned Weston A.
普赖斯。
Price.
对。
Right.
对那些还不了解韦斯顿·A。
And for those of you who don't know who Weston A.
普莱斯是上世纪三十年代的一位牙医，特别痴迷营养学。
Price is, he was a dentist in the nineteen thirties who had a huge passion for nutrition.
他后来走遍全球，研究了大量原始部落的文化。
And he started traveling around the world, studied a ton of different primitive cultures.
他发现这些传统族群在结婚前，会专门安排大约六个月的饮食准备期，为的是确保夫妻双方的生育健康，也为了让宝宝出生时更健康。
And when he studied these cultures and primitive tribes, they he found that these traditional people had, allowed a special feeding period of about six months before even marriage in order to ensure the couple's reproductive health and in order to ensure that the babies were born healthy.
真有意思，那时候的人就已经凭直觉明白，饮食太重要了。
Now that is interesting that they knew intuitively way back then that food matters.
没错。
Right.
如果你读过莎莉·法隆的《滋养传统》，那感觉就像我的育儿圣经一样。
And and and if you've read Sally Fallon's book, Nourishing Traditions, it's like my my baby bible.
对吧？
Right?
就是这么回事。
About it.
但她一再提到韦斯顿·A·普赖斯的理论。
But she talks a ton about Weston A.
就是普赖斯那些研究发现。
Price's, you know, findings.
对于孕妇，她特别推荐牛油果、富含有机黄油的饮食、散养鸡的蛋黄、野生三文鱼、草饲牛肉、大量椰子油，还有用骨头熬的高汤——用来煮汤和炖菜，能提供丰富的钙质和其他矿物质，帮助胎儿骨骼健康发育；每天还要吃鳕鱼肝油，当然，蔬菜也得多吃。
And for the pregnant mother, she recommends avocados, a diet rich in organic butter, and free range egg yolks from pastured chickens, wild caught salmon, grass fed beef, lots of coconut oil, bone broths, homemade bone broth used in soups and stews, which provide a ton of different calcium and a lot of other minerals for the healthy bones of the child, cod liver oil daily, and of course, lots and lots of vegetables.
蔬菜，蔬菜，还是蔬菜。
Vegetables, vegetables, vegetables.
别忘了，除了多吃这些有益食物，还得避开一些对胎儿不利的东西，比如反式脂肪、精制面粉、过多的糖、大量大豆，还有各种加工油。
And let's not forget that in addition to adding these foods to ensure a healthy baby, there are foods to avoid too, like trans fats, white flour, too much sugar, too much soy is not good, processed oils.
像玉米油、大豆油这些，都是经过高度精炼加工的。
So the oils like corn oil, soybean oil, those are just highly processed and refined.
还有，尽量别吃用大量农药种出来的食物。
And then you want to avoid foods grown with a lot of pesticides as well.
对。
Right.
所以总结一下，如果你现在怀孕了，或者打算很快怀孕，我们真心希望你能好好想想这个问题，想想你现在做的选择将来会怎么影响你的孩子，让你能生出一个健健康康的宝宝。
So bottom line here, if you're pregnant or soon want to be pregnant, we really hope you begin to think about this, you know, and how it's going affect your child in the future so you have a healthy, healthy baby.
对。
Yes.
我们特别希望你能意识到，这段时期有多重要——你现在吃进嘴里的每一口食物，都在影响着孩子的健康，甚至在某些情况下，直接决定了你未来孩子一生的身体状况。
We really want to get you thinking about how very important this time is and how the food you're putting in your mouth now is affecting, and some in some instances, you're you're even determining the long term health of the children that you're gonna bring into this world.
好好想想吧。
So think about that.
对。
Yes.
也许是时候彻底戒掉你的Mountain Dew了。
Maybe it's time to give up your Mountain Dew
彻底戒掉。
for good.
我们认识一个天天喝Mountain Dew的人。
We know somebody that drinks Mountain Dew.
我们确实知道。
We do.
有时候他啊，总是……
And sometimes he It's
不是我们。
not us.
他有时候还会往里面加花生。
Sometimes he puts peanuts in it.
哎，不知道有没有听众猜到我们在说谁？
Oh, I wonder if any listeners know who we're talking about.
也许是时候别再吃那么多面包了。
Maybe it's time to stop eating all that bread.
也许是时候别再吃早上那堆冷麦片了。
Maybe it's time to stop the cold breakfast cereal in the morning.
别再吃这些高糖食物了，别让你的孩子一出生就患上胰岛素抵抗这种前期糖尿病，就像我们的嘉宾艾米·杨那样。
Stop all of these high sugar foods so that your child is not born with a prediabetic condition called insulin resistance like our guest Amy Young was.
这个行动号召太棒了，卡西。
Great call to action, Cassie.
但那些像我一样的听众呢？他们现在肯定在想：‘这说的不就是我吗？’
But what about all the listeners out there like me that are thinking right now, I bet that's me.
我猜我生下来就胰岛素抵抗。
I bet I was born insulin resistant.
咱们给这些人一点希望吧，说说怎么才能逆转胰岛素抵抗？
What do you say we give these folks little hope and explain how you can heal insulin resistant?
说得好，姐妹。
Right on, sister.
要讲清楚怎么逆转胰岛素抵抗，你得先搞明白——你，或者你妈妈（如果这毛病是她传给你的），当初是怎么变成胰岛素抵抗的。
Now in order to explain how you can heal insulin resistance, you first have to really grasp how you or how your mother, if she's the one that passed it on to you, became insulin resistant in the first place.
不管你天生如此，还是不知不觉自己搞出来的，好消息是，这事儿能治。
Because whether you were born this way or whether you unknowingly brought it upon yourself, the good news is it can be healed.
对。
Yes.
咱们先说清楚，胰岛素抵抗到底是怎么一步步形成的。
So let's make it clear how insulin resistance develops in the first place.
我得重复一下达上周节目里说的一句话，她当时在聊胰岛素抵抗和更年期的事儿。
And I'm just going to repeat something that Dar said on last week's show when she was talking about insulin resistance and, and menopause, okay, during menopause.
胰岛素抵抗不是一朝一夕的事儿。
So insulin resistance happens over time.
你不可能喝瓶可乐，第二天就胰岛素抵抗了。
It's not like you drink a Coke and it's kinda, you know, you're gonna be insulin resistant the next time.
对。
Yeah.
它是慢慢积累的，因为你吃太多高碳水的食物。
Happens over time, and it happens because you're eating too many higher carbohydrate foods.
明白吗？
Okay?
可能是加工过的谷物食品，比如麦片、一大包爆米花，或者饼干啥的。
And that could be, you know, processed grain products like cereal or a ton of popcorn or could be cookies or whatever.
所以你好好想想，什么时候你吃太多碳水化合物了？
And so really just think back when did you eat too many carbohydrates?
你想想，今天早上早餐吃的是冷麦片吗？
You know, did you have cold cereal for breakfast this morning?
也许安娜没吃。
Maybe Anna didn't.
没有。
No.
我没吃。
I didn't.
她跑步去了
She ran
她边走边吃鸡蛋，鸡蛋可是方便又快捷的食物。
in with eggs in a bowl in her You can eggs can be an on the go food.
没错。
Totally.
你生活得特别满足。
You're you're living super satisfying.
对。
Yes.
也许就是在办公室顺手拿点糖果吃。
Maybe taking candy from the candy dish at work.
你们中有多少人干过这事儿？
How many of you have done that?
你的客户是不是经常跟你说，这种习惯拖了他们的后腿？
Don't you hear that a lot from your clients that that sabotages them.
你们办公室有糖果盘吗？
Do you guys have a candy dish at work?
没有。
No.
但有些同事那儿有糖果。
But certain coworkers do have candy
就在他们工位上。
on their stations.
对。
Yeah.
谁想吃都可以拿。
And it's accessible to anybody who wants it.
没错。
That's Yeah.
咱们是不是该在那儿放点西兰花，
We should put broccoli in there when
我们用西兰花沙拉配杏仁。
we use broccoli salad and almonds.
嗯。
Yep.
是啊。
Yeah.
我猜这玩意儿肯定一直满着。
I bet it would stay full.
对啊。
Yeah.
估计还真是这样。
It it probably would.
说不定你就是那种开车去湖边路上停下来买个Dairy Queen暴风雪冰淇淋的人。
Maybe maybe you're one of those who stopped for a Dairy Queen blizzard on the drive to the lake.
或者，你是不是常吃奶酪配饼干？
Or how about snacking on cheese and crackers?
我们总觉得奶酪没那么糟，但关键看你吃了多少饼干。
And we don't think of cheese as bad, but depending on how many crackers
你吃多少，
you eat with
其实问题出在饼干上。
it would be the crackers.
大热天或夜里来一两瓶冰啤酒，或者那杯你攒了一整周才舍得买的焦糖摩卡拿铁。
A cold beer or two on a hot summer day or night or that caramel mocha latte that you've, you know, that you've been saving up for all week.
因为它们就卖四块五，贵是贵了点。
Because they only cost because they're for 4 and a half dollars.
太棒了。
Great.
或者干脆就是我们夏天常去的野餐。
Or or maybe just the summer picnics that we go to.
就是那种标配汉堡，配个超大的白面包卷。
You know, the picnics where the typical fare is a burger with a huge white bun.
哎呀。
Oh.
旁边再摆点土豆沙拉、烤豆子、一块布朗尼，再来杯柠檬水。
You know, some potato salad on the side, baked beans, a brownie, a glass of lemonade.
你懂的。
You know?
我的天，这可真是够呛啊。
I mean, that's a whopping Ouch.
一顿饭里就有五种东西最后都变成糖了。
Five different things that turn into sugar in just one meal.
就像卡西教我的，每顿饭只选一样会转化成糖的食物就够了，别选五样。
And as Cassie has taught me, you want just one thing, not five, but one thing that turns to a little bit of sugar at each meal.
这样你既能给大脑提供一点能量，又不会给脂肪细胞添燃料。
That way, you'll be giving your brain a little fuel to operate, but you won't be feeding your fat cells.
没错，就是这样。
Exactly.
你这话说得太到位了。
I love how you put that.
艾米，这正是你开始慢慢但坚定地戒掉加工碳水、多吃蔬菜的正确方式。
And, you know, Amy, it's exactly how you begin the slow but sure healing process of cutting out those processed carbs and getting the vegetables in.
对。
Right.
而且你会慢慢开始修复胰岛素抵抗的问题。
And you will start to heal that insulin resistance.
安娜，你之前说得特别好，把胰岛素受体比作门，胰岛素就是开门的钥匙。
And Anna, you gave a great explanation earlier of insulin resistance when you describe the receptors as doors and insulin as the key that unlocks those doors.
但要是想想象这个修复过程——也就是改善胰岛素抵抗，我总想象那层硬壳，包裹在你每一块肌肉细胞的外面。
But when we want to visualize this healing process, healing insulin resistance, I always visualize that insulin resistance is this hard crust that has developed around the outside of every one of your muscle cells.
所以要修复这层硬壳，好消息是，你的肌肉细胞外膜跟皮肤细胞一样，一直在更新换代。
And so to heal this hard crust, the good news is your outer membrane of your muscle cells is much like your skin cells.
你
You're
一直在脱落旧细胞，长出新细胞。
always sloughing and regrowing new.
所以你吃得越干净，越少碰那些一吃就变成大量糖的高碳水餐食，多吃点蛋白质、蔬菜和健康脂肪，那层叫胰岛素抵抗的硬壳就会自然脱落，长出新的、柔软健康的细胞膜，这样营养才能顺利进到肌肉细胞里，而不是全堆到脂肪里去。
So the cleaner you eat, you know, get the high carb meals out that just turn to a lot of sugar, eat more proteins and vegetables and healthy fats, you're gonna slough that outer crusty membrane called insulin resistance, and you're gonna regrow a new pliable, healthy membrane that is able to allow that fuel into the muscle cells so you're not just dumping all of your calories into fat storage.
对。
Right.
这正是你九月份我第一次来看你时给我讲的那套说法。
And that's exactly how you explained it to me the first time I came to see you in September.
所以我大大减少了淀粉类碳水的摄入。
And so I cut way back on the starchy carbs.
你还建议我戒掉麸质和乳制品，这计划真的管用。
You also suggested I give up gluten and dairy, and the plan works.
但我得说，你得有耐心。
But I will tell you, you have to have patience.
修复胰岛素抵抗这个过程，确实需要时间。
This process of healing the insulin resistance can take time.
但你知道吗？
But you know what?
体重要是慢慢稳稳地掉下来，你才更可能一辈子都保持住。
When the weight comes off slow and steady, you are much more likely to keep it off for a lifetime.
没错。
That's right.
没错。
That's right.
而不是那些号称三十天瘦三十磅的速成法，那根本就是让你一停 diet 就反弹，还越减越胖。
Versus, yeah, those lose 30 pounds in thirty days quickie plans that really just set you up to gain your weight back and then some once you quit the so called diet.
但艾米，你已经明白了，营养与健康的生活方式根本不是什么节食。
But Amy, as you have learned, the nutritional weight and wellness way is not a diet.
这是一种能陪你一辈子的健康吃法。
It's a healthy way of eating for a lifetime.
所以在我们休息前，你赶紧跟所有朋友说说，我们知道你有不少听众在——
So I want you to share with all of your friends before we have to go to our next break because we know you have some listeners out there in
埃尔克河。
Elk River.
你跟他们说说，你平时早餐都吃啥？
Share with them what's a typical breakfast for you?
我平时早餐就是两个用一茶匙橄榄油煎的炒蛋，再加一个苹果。
A typical breakfast for me is two scrambled eggs cooked in a teaspoon of olive oil and an apple.
没错。
Right.
你这早餐，脂肪来自橄榄油，鸡蛋提供蛋白质，苹果则是健康的碳水化合物。
So you get your fat is the olive oil, the eggs are the protein, and the apple is the healthy carbohydrates.
你根本不需要配面包，对吧？
You didn't need toast with that, did you?
完全不需要。
Not at all.
不用了。
Nope.
我们准备去休息一下。
We're gonna go to break.
你敢信吗？
So can you believe it?
我的天，这一小时怎么过得这么快。
I mean, this this hour is going by way too fast.
是的
Yeah.
真希望咱们能有两个小时。
I wish we had two hours.
也许咱们能出第二期。
Maybe we'll have a part two.
好啊。
Yes.
《艾米·杨》第二期。
Part two of Amy Young.
改天再送你回来。
Drive you back on another
周六一大早。
early Saturday morning.
所以我想要
So I want
在插播广告前，先留个趣味小问题给你们，广告回来后我们公布答案——凯西·伍尔。
to leave you with this little trivia question as we go to commercial, and we will share the answer when we come back, Cassie Wool.
最近谁这位明尼阿波利斯本地英雄戒掉了麸质、乳制品和糖，感觉状态特别好？
So what Minneapolis hometown hero recently cut gluten, dairy, and sugar from his diet and is feeling great because of it?
广告回来后我们再揭晓答案。
We'll give you the answer when we return.
欢迎回来，进入《营养餐桌》的最后一部分，今天的话题是：你天生就胰岛素抵抗吗？
Welcome back for the final segment of Dishing Up Nutrition and today's topic of were you born insulin resistant?
在结束这个话题前，我得先公布安娜那个趣味问题的答案。
Now before we give parting words of wisdom on this topic, I need to share the answer to Anna's trivia question.
刚才广告前安娜问了，哪位本地英雄最近彻底戒了麸质、乳制品和糖，改了饮食后感觉好多了。
For those of you who didn't hear it as we went to break, Anna asked what hometown hero recently went gluten free, dairy free, sugar free, and feels much better because of this new eating style.
我猜第一国民银行的同事们肯定都在喊了，
Now I'm sure all of the girls and guys at First National Bank are shouting out,
艾米·杨。
Amy Young.
这没错。
But that's true.
她确实是本地的英雄。
She's a hometown hero.
对极了。
That's right.
但我猜的答案是明尼苏达双城队的贾斯汀·莫内。
But my answer is Justin Morneau of the Minnesota Twins.
我还得特别提一下我另一个特别喜欢的客户。
And I have to give a shout out to another of my favorite clients.
艾米是我最钟爱的客户，但我还有另一个特别喜欢的。
Amy is my favorite client, and I have another favorite client.
真有意思。
Imagine that.
我有太多太多特别喜欢的客户了。
I have many, many favorite clients.
让自己惹上麻烦。
Get myself in trouble.
六月是我一个客户，我让她戒了麸质和乳制品，原因挺实际的，得解决一些健康问题，现在她感觉好多了。
June, one of my clients that I took off of gluten and dairy for some, you know, real reasons that we needed to fix, and she's feeling better because of it.
就是六月上个月在《明星论坛报》上看到了那篇关于贾斯汀·莫瑙恩的文章。
It was June that saw this article in the Star Tribune last month on Justin Morneau.
文章标题是《贾斯汀·莫瑙恩在饮食上做出了更健康的选择》。
And the title of the article is Justin Morneau is making healthier decisions at the plate.
我当然不会把整篇文章念给你听，但里面讲了他戒掉了麸质、乳制品和糖。
And I'm certainly not gonna read the whole article to you, but, it just talks about how he gave up gluten, dairy, and sugar.
文章里提到赛季早些时候，他们在佛罗里达的透析球馆打完一场比赛后，厨师们摆出了贾斯汀最爱的餐点——肋排和奶酪通心粉。
And I like this little scenario they describe earlier in the season when they got done with a series at Tropicana Field in Florida, the chefs put out Justin Morneau's favorite spread, which apparently is ribs and mac and cheese.
他一看见那盘菜，肯定馋得流口水，但一口都没吃。
And he looked at it, and I'm sure he was drooling, but he didn't have any.
里面还引用了他的话。
And he says in here, they're quoting him.
他说，虽然很难，但我知道一吃下去准得难受死。
He says, it was difficult, but I knew I'd feel like absolute garbage after eating it.
我知道身体根本没法恢复，因为它在拼命消化那些不该吃的东西。
I knew my body wouldn't be recovering because it's trying to break down food I shouldn't be eating.
所以干脆不碰，反而更好。
So I was better off avoiding it.
于是他也加入了咱们这个圈子，姐妹们。
So he joined our club ladies.
咱们都吃无乳制品的，
We're all eating free dairy free,
低糖的，
low sugar
就在这儿吃。
eating here.
现在连贾斯汀·莫诺也入伙了。
So now we got Justin Moreno on board.
对了艾米，你得跟大家打个招呼。
So and, Amy, you need to give a shout out.
刚才休息的时候你跟我们说，现在银行那边还有人在收听咱们的节目，是吧？
During break, you were telling us that you're actually on air at the bank, we think, right now.
各位早上好啊，帕梅拉、简、海蒂、艾米，还有那位正在收听的银行职员，
Well, good morning, Pamela, Jan, Heidi, Amy, and whoever the banker is.
谢谢大家抽出时间来听我们聊天。
Thank you for taking the time listening.
别管那些客人了
Don't worry about the customers.
先专心听节目就行
Just listen to the show.
客人的事之后再说
Customers come after.
对
Yeah.
让客户们好好听。
Let the customers listen.
音量开大点。
Crank it
他们开车过来的时候，声音要够响。
up as they come through the drive.
早上好，
Good morning to
各位。
all of you.
别忘了给狗狗们也分点骨头啊。
Make sure you give the dog bones to the dogs too.
听懂了吗？
Okay?
真贴心。
So sweet.
我喜欢你们能让
I love it that you have
这么多顾客都听到。
all those people listening.
现在我想提一下'神奇数字三'这个概念，因为我之前在办公室跟艾米提过，可能对正在收听的各位也会有帮助。
Now I wanna mention the magic number three because this is something I've mentioned to Amy in the office before, and maybe it'll help some of you listening.
我经常告诉大家，只要记住这个神奇数字是三，你就能轻松坚持这种饮食方式。
I like to tell people, if you can remember that the magic number is three, you can eat this way.
这事儿不难的。
It's not that hard.
核心的搭配原则就是三类食材：动物源蛋白质、优质碳水，还有健康脂肪，每三小时就把这三样搭配着吃。
And the magic number is three because you wanna have an animal protein, a healthy carbohydrate, and a healthy fat, those three things about every three hours.
对的。
Right.
举个例子啊，我昨天六点半左右吃的早饭。
So for example, yesterday, I had breakfast around 06:30.
所以九点半，三小时后，到了我在办公室吃上午茶的时间。
So at 09:30, three hours later, it was time for my morning snack at work.
我吃了两盎司的火鸡饼，配炒蘑菇，一汤匙黄油，还有半根香蕉。
And I had two ounces of a turkey patty with mushrooms fried and one tablespoon of butter and a half a banana.
真香。
Yum.
我喜欢这个吃法。
I like that.
不错。
Good.
这个搭配很好啊。
That's good addition Yeah.
我知道你午餐最爱的吃法就是吃点肉、大量蔬菜，再加一点黄油来改善胰岛素抵抗，对吧？
I know one of your favorite ways to eat to heal insulin resistance at lunchtime is some meat, lots of vegetables, and a little butter.
对吧？
Right?
黄油真的永远都好吃。
Oh, butter is always good.
哦。
Oh.
我吃四盎司鸡胸肉，再配上一杯西兰花，还有花椰菜。
I have four ounces of chicken breast, and then I do, like, a cup of broccoli, and I do cauliflower.
如果午餐加两种脂肪，我就在花椰菜上加黄油、酸奶油和奶油，吃起来跟土豆泥一样香。
And if I have two fats at lunch, I put butter sour and cream on that cauliflower, and it tastes like mashed potatoes.
她可太懂行了。
She's got it down.
午餐加两种脂肪。
Two fats at lunch.
你真是听进去了。
You have been listening.
你确实听进去了。
You have.
你举了这么多好例子，我都馋得不行了。
So you've given some awesome examples, and you're making my mouth water.
是的。
Yeah.
我现在都饿了。
Now I'm getting hungry.
在家和上班时吃东西来改善胰岛素抵抗，这我们聊了，那出去吃呢？
Of eating to heal that insulin resistance when at home and at work.
出去吃的话怎么办？
What about eating out?
嗯，我们
Well, we
平时很少出去吃。
don't eat out real often.
在家吃真食物又方便又省钱。
It's just easier and cheaper to eat real food at home.
但只要我们出去吃，我就会记住‘三’这个关键数字：尽量点动物蛋白、一些蔬菜，餐厅里通常都能加黄油或酸奶油当脂肪来源。
But when we do eat out, I just remember the magic number three and do my best to order animal protein, some veggies, and you can usually get butter or sour cream for your fat when you're at a restaurant.
而且我经常提前上网查餐厅的菜单。
And oftentimes, I go online and look at the restaurant's menu before we go.
比如我之前搜过一家叫‘太空外星人’的店。
Like, I looked up, I pulled up space aliens.
我老公和我不久前刚在阿尔伯特维尔商场购物后去那儿吃过饭。
My husband and I, not too long ago, went to space aliens after shopping at the Albertville Mall.
我看他们有大土豆，烤土豆，但所有东西都是油炸的。
And I ordered I saw they had giant potatoes, baked potatoes, but everything was fried.
我就问：‘能给我来份烤鸡胸肉吗？’
And I said, you know, could I get grilled chicken?
你们的蔬菜是怎么做的？
And how do you prepare your vegetables?
因为有个配菜是蔬菜。
Because the one of the sides was vegetables.
她说：‘我们是用柠檬黄油炒的。’
And she goes, well, we put them in lemon butter.
我就问：‘那我能要不加柠檬黄油、清蒸的蔬菜吗？’
And I go, well, could I get those vegetables steamed without the lemon butter?
她回答：‘当然可以啊。’
And she goes, well, sure you can.
所以我把烤鸡、黄油和酸奶油都拿上，再把蔬菜堆在上面，自己搭了一份。
So what I did was I took the grilled chicken, had real butter and sour cream on the side, took the vegetables, put it on top, and made my own.
别怕开口提要求。
Don't be scared to ask them.
他们会按你的想法做的。
They will make it how you want it.
这主意太棒了。
That is a great idea.
我刚才跟艾米说这事，她说早些时候在休息室提过，我一听，天哪。
And I was telling Amy, she was talking about that in the break room earlier, and I thought, oh my gosh.
你给了我一个特别棒的主意。
You've given me a great idea.
我之前还跟你说过，每当我孩子缠着我要去吃太空 aliens 的东西时，我就这么对付他们。
Well and I said it to you of something to eat when my kids beg me to go to space aliens.
我其实不太让他们常去，但你们都知道那家店的菜单。
And I I honestly don't let them go very often, but you guys know the menu.
那儿的选择真没几个。
There's just not
是的。
Yeah.
选来选去就那几样。
There's not too
但你可以自己搭配，按你的想法来。
to pick from, but then you can make your own Go with the plan.
自由组合。
Combination.
我打算点一份专属艾米的主菜，就这么定了
I'm I'm gonna order Amy's entree is what I'll call it.
我太喜欢这个主意了
So I love that.
而且我特别欣赏提前上网规划的做法，这样进门之后就心里有数了
And I love the idea that you go online ahead of time so you have a plan when you walk in the door.
就像艾米说的，别不好意思提自己想吃的、适合自己的搭配，哪怕菜单上没写也没关系
And like Amy said, don't be afraid to ask for the foods that work for you even when it's not necessarily on the menu.
对。
Right.
我们不是...或者你还记得圣安娜吗？
And don't we, or do you remember Anna in St.
保罗？
Paul?
哦，我早就不在那儿工作了，但我还记得这事儿。
Oh, I haven't worked there for years, but I remember doing that.
我也不确定。
And I don't know.
你以前试过吗？
Did you had you ever?
是的。
Yeah.
好吧。
So okay.
我到现在还是这么干。
So I still do this.
对。
Yeah.
圣保罗高地公园有个地方叫高地烧烤店。
So there's a place called Highland Grill in Highland Park in Saint Paul.
就在我们家马路对面， basically 就是隔条街。
And Just across the street from our Just basically across the street.
对。
Right.
要是我忘了带午饭，或者带得不够，我经常点他们家的‘猫王汉堡’。
If I forget lunch or I didn't bring enough, a lot of times I'll just order their, it's called the Elvis Burger.
太好吃了。
So good.
上面还加了点培根。
And it's got a little bacon on it.
猫王汉堡。
Elvis Burger.
我就跟他们说，别放面包了。
And I just I just tell them, know, don't put the bun on.
然后他们就给我一大块烤番茄，底下铺满青菜。
And then they give me this huge roasted tomato with lots of greens on the bottom.
我通常还会再配一份蔬菜。
And then I usually order some type of vegetable on the side.
完美。
Perfect.
另一个例子是，比如说。
So another example of Yeah.
他们家的自制蛋黄酱，我会加在汉堡上，这就是我的脂肪来源。
And they have homemade mayo that I put on the burger, and that's my fat.
所以你是自己搭配出——
So you you make up your
属于你的专属组合。
own little combo.
对。
Right.
我们这些人都是活生生的例子，说明在餐厅里也能轻松践行健康饮食、控制体重的方式。
We are all successful examples here of how you can make the weight and wellness way of eating work when you're at a restaurant.
但要是出去度假，或者像我很多客户那样，经常出差，那可就更难了。
But how about when you're on vacation or I have a lot of clients that have to travel a lot for work and this takes it to another level of difficulty?
艾米，现在说说你吧。
So Amy, turning to you.
有什么建议吗？
Any help?
有。
Yes.
我第一个目标是减到一百二十五磅。
Well, when I reached my first goal was a hundred and twenty five pounds.
达成之后，我就计划带我老公去好莱坞，上《价格是正确》节目。
And when I reached that, my goal was to take myself, my husband, I go to Hollywood and go on The Price Is Right.
我太喜欢这个了。
I love that.
我本来想去迪士尼，但他就只想去那儿。
So I'm Disney World, but it's all he wanted.
而且也不能去打猎，因为他体重没减下来。
And no hunting trips either because he didn't lose the weight.
我减掉体重了。
I lost the weight.
没错。
Right.
那就是我们
That's we
去了好莱坞。
went to Hollywood.
我想举几个例子，说说我当时是怎么做到的。
So I'd like to give a couple examples how I did that.
首先，在飞机上，我吃了一根香蕉，知道我有胰岛素抵抗，
Well, first of all, starting on the airplane, I had a banana and knew with being insulin resistant,
得搭配点脂肪一起吃。
I had to have a fat with it.
所以空乘问我选饼干还是花生时，我选了花生，还把上面的盐全擦掉了，这样我就能撑三个小时没问题。
So when they gave me a choice for cookies or peanuts, I went with peanuts and I wiped all the salt off of them so I knew I was good for another three hours.
第二个例子是我们到酒店后，他们问我们要不要升级到带微波炉和小冰箱的套房。
Then my second example was when we got to our hotel, they asked if we wanted to upgrade to a suite that had a microwave and a small refrigerator.
我说要。
And I said, yes.
那太好了。
That would be great.
于是我和我丈夫过街去便利店买了火鸡火腿、真正的蛋黄酱和胡萝卜。
So my husband and I walked across the street to a convenience store and bought turkey lunch meat, real mayonnaise, and carrots.
我还带了苹果和苹果切器，这样每三小时都能自己准备零食。
I brought with me apples and my apple cutter with me that that way I had food to prepare my snacks every three hours.
对我来说，数字三代表准备、积极和坚持——只要你相信自己能做到。
And for me, the number three stands for preparation, positiveness, and persistence when one believes they can achieve.
说得对，兄弟。
Amen, man.
太棒了。
Love that.
我也超喜欢这个。
I love that.
太棒了。
That's awesome.
没错，这真是个好例子。
And, yeah, that is a great example.
选带冰箱和微波炉的酒店房间。
Get the the hotel room with the refrigerator and the microwave.
对啊。
Mhmm.
要是能找到个小便利店，或者附近有超市就更好了。
And if you can find a little convenience store or grow sometimes there's a grocery store handy.
哇哦。
Wow.
艾米简直就是个活招牌——不只是治好了胰岛素抵抗，她还证明了，不管是在家、上班、吃饭外食，甚至是在好莱坞，都能过上健康减重的生活。
Well, Amy really is the poster child, not only of healing insulin resistance, but she's the poster child of the fact that you can live the weight and wellness way no matter if you're at home or at work or at a restaurant or heck, even in Hollywood.
对。
Yes.
Amy不管去哪儿、过什么样的日子，吃的都是天然食材，而且搭配得刚刚好。
And Amy is simply eating real food in balance no matter where her day or her life takes her.
记住啊，
And remember,
说到‘天然’，我们想让你想到那些你能在自家花园种出来、或者从树上摘下来的碳水化合物。
by that word real, we want you to think of carbohydrates that you could theoretically grow in your garden or pick from a tree.
比如芦笋、西兰花、苹果这些。
So it's the asparagus and the broccoli and the apples.
这些就是Amy今天提到的真正天然的碳水。
Those are real carbs that Amy's talked about today.
至于‘平衡’，意思是每三小时吃一次，蛋白质、碳水、健康脂肪这三样都要有。
And that word balance, we mean eating the protein, the carb, and the healthy fat, those three things every three hours.
只要你这么做，一整天血糖都能稳住，这才是真正能改善胰岛素抵抗的关键。
If you do this, you'll balance your blood sugars all day long, and that's what's going to help heal insulin resistance.
我本来还想给个晚餐点子，不过我猜马上就要放音乐了。
Are we I was going to give another dinner idea, but I bet we're we're gonna hear music pretty soon.
对。
Yep.
我们马上就要开始升温了。
We're gonna we're gonna start ramping Yeah.
她
Her
没错。
Yeah.
她一给信号，我们就知道这会儿快结束了，各位女士。
When she starts giving us the signal, we know this late this hour is almost over, ladies.
既然咱们这一个小时快结束了，我想说，希望今天给大家带来了一些启发。
So, being our hour is almost up, I just wanna say I hope we've given you some inspiration today.
我知道艾米·杨对我的启发远超她自己意识到的，我也相信，艾米，你的故事一定给了很多人希望。
I know Amy Young is an inspiration to me in more ways than she knows, and I'm sure your story, Amy, has given hope to many people.
非常感谢你来参加我们的节目
So thank you so much for being on the show with
能来真是太好了
us having me.
我真的很珍惜这次机会
I've it.
也感谢所有听众，祝你们周末健康愉快，下周六同一时间再回来找我们
And everybody out there, we hope you have a healthy weekend, and we hope you you join us again next Saturday.
下周六我们会请达和凯特一起，和格雷格·彼得森聊聊
Dar and Kate are gonna be on with Greg Peterson.
太棒了
Oh, nice.
话题是男性健康
Talking about men's health.
如果你下周六还来，同样的时间、同样的地方，还能听到更多精彩内容
So if you join us again next Saturday, same time, same place, you'll get some more great information.
是的。
Yes.
谢谢你们。
Thanks, you guys.
谢谢。
Thank you.
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