母亲发现她 13 岁的儿子刚刚杀了人

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

我哥哥受了伤，得去急诊室。

My brother got into an injury, and he had to go to the ER.

是的

Yeah.

我病得很厉害，一直呕吐。

I got really sick and started vomiting and stuff.

那你现在感觉怎么样？

So How are you feeling?

好点了吗？

That Getting better?

好多了。

A lot better.

不过这样挺好的。

But That's good.

那天大家过得都挺模糊的，除非是很久以前发生过的、让人印象深刻的事。

That whole day was just kind of a blur for everybody, unless it's something that happened a long time ago that's memorable.

我一般记不太清，除非有人特意提起。

It's not really something I remember unless it, like, is really, really brought up.

虽然亨特提供不了什么新细节，但他看起来挺配合，也愿意帮忙。

Although Hunter is unable to provide any new details, he seems fairly cooperative and willing to help.

他的双胞胎兄弟利维则相反，还待在房间里不肯出来。

His twin brother Levi, on the other hand, is still in his room refusing to come out.

之前，他们的母亲提到利维正在剪辑《嗜血法医》，这是一部以义警连环杀手为主角的犯罪剧，两位侦探对此再熟悉不过了。

Earlier, their mother had mentioned Levi was editing Dexter, a crime drama centered around a vigilante serial killer, a show both detectives are all too familiar with.

正是在这里，侦探们开始意识到，他们最初关于丽贝卡两个儿子的猜测，可能并非巧合。

And it's here the detectives would begin to realize their initial hunch about Rebecca's sons may not have been a coincidence after all.

是的。

Yeah.

通常都不会这么快，但这次还真算快了。

The it's usually never quick, but that's actually pretty quick.

你好。

Hello.

最近怎么样？

How are you?

我快到了。

I'm close now.

哦，你要出来了？

Oh, you're coming out

出来？

on?

你在剪辑什么？

What's you editing?

我在剪辑《嗜血法医》。

I was editing Dexter.

我有时候也会剪辑。

Sometimes I edit.

是的。

Yeah.

但他喜欢拍短视频发到TikTok上。

But he likes to make videos for TikTok.

哦，对啊。

Oh, Yeah.

我和莉兹。

Me and Liz.

那只猫就是把你打中鼻子的那只吗？

Is that the cat that got you there on the nose?

我不清楚。

I don't know.

我不知道发生了什么。

I don't know what happened.

我们俩差点吓一跳，因为我的床就在那儿。

We just Oh, that's Man, that's pretty startled each other because my bed was right there.

是的。

Yeah.

他的床在

His bed was

外面。

out here.

而且

And

明白了。

Until Got it.

所有的灯都关了。

All the lights were off.

哦，这样啊。

Oh, okay.

其实我们早就知道该给他们剪指甲了。

So we've been knowing for a while that we needed to, that we needed to cut their nails.

亨特一直这么说。

Hunter's been saying that

我也觉得

for I

没错。

know.

很多时候。

A lot of times.

我觉得特别内疚，因为是我

I felt so guilty when I because I had

做的。

to do it.

我们搬家的时候，大家都清楚，猫这种动物就是容易让人尴尬。

Us moving I mean, we know everybody knows that cats just are awkward.

所以我们搬过来之后，马卡龙变得很奇怪，大概是因为搬家了，

So us moving, Marshmallow being weird because they're moving and

马卡龙是那只猫吗？

Is Marshmallow the cat?

是的。

Yes.

我们平时还挺喜欢它的。

And we usually like them.

我们以前给它买了个玩具架，结果搬家的时候给收起来了。

We had a, like, a play set for them, and they we packed it up.

所以这可能也是个原因。

So that's also probably another thing.

所以，我和他俩就突然碰上了。

So, yeah, me and him just randomly saw each other.

他在我脖子上刮了一下。

He scraped me on the neck.

我不确定

Not sure if

你能不能看到。

you can see it.

看不到。

No.

明白了。

Okay.

你还在哪儿碰到的？

Where else did you get it?

是的。

Yeah.

他稍微刮到我脸上了。

He kinda scraped me on my face a little bit.

五次。

Five.

五针。

Five.

主要是鼻子那儿。

And then mainly my nose.

我当时正想清理一下，嗯。

And I was trying to clean my yeah.

我只是在给自己缝针。

I was just stitching myself up.

是的。

Yeah.

五针？

Five stitches?

伤口挺深的。

It was pretty deep.

确实挺深的。

Pretty deep.

哦。

Oh.

它

It

很疼。

hurts.

我知道那儿离得近。

I know it's close there.

我们看完医生后就回了家。

We went back to the house after we got out of the doctor.

是的。

Mhmm.

然后我们就看到了救护车。

And then that's when we saw the ambulances.

我不清楚。

I don't know.

很多事都记不清了

A lot

因为当时我忙着清理自己，洗澡时心不在焉，很多事情都模糊了。

of it's a blur because I tried to clean myself up, so I was distracted in the shower.

明白了。

Okay.

有趣的是，两兄弟在回忆这件事时，都用了‘模糊’这个词。

Interestingly, both brothers use the same word, blur, when recalling the incident.

虽然创伤事件——哪怕是邻居去世这样的事——都会影响记忆，但让警方更在意的是，利维在描述经过时显得过度解释。

And while traumatic events, even something like death of a neighbor can affect memory, what catches officers' attention far more is the way Levi seems to overexplain what happened.

他声称那些深划痕是和家猫打架造成的，但警方很难相信，毕竟伤口的严重程度远超普通猫抓。

He claims the deep scratches came from a fight with a house cat, something officers find difficult to believe given the severity of the wounds.

基于这些情况，侦探们认为，尽管兄弟俩年纪还小，但已经提供了足够的合理依据，可以采取下一步行动。

So with this in mind, detectives believe that despite their young age, the brothers have given them enough probable cause to take the next step.

侦探们请丽贝卡到外面单独谈一会儿，请求允许采集她两个儿子的DNA样本。

The detectives ask to speak with Rebecca outside for a moment where they request permission to collect DNA from both of her sons.

她几乎没有犹豫就同意了。

Without much hesitation, she agrees.

但当他们三人回来时，其中一个兄弟对接受检测的反应却截然不同。

But when the three of them return, one of the brothers would have a very different reaction to being tested.

我可以进来吗？我来跟你解释一下。

Do you mind if I come I can explain it to you.

好的。

Yeah.

他有点被这件事压得喘不过气。

He's a little overwhelmed by this.

是的。

Yeah.

我就是觉得，最近已经看太多医生了。

I just feel like I don't I've been to enough doctors recently.

我不想

I don't wanna

所以这个

So the

你看过什么犯罪剧之类的吗？

have you seen any, like, crime shows or anything?

就是我们平时是怎么工作的那种？

You know, how how we kinda do our job?

医学检测和警方调查有点不一样，她可能没跟你说清楚，我们只是用棉签轻轻擦一下你的脸颊，不会存进任何数据库，只是跟我们现有的样本做个比对。

The medical stuff's a little different than the law enforcement stuff, but I don't know if she explained to you, but we're just gonna swab your cheek, and it's not gonna go into any database or anything, but we're gonna compare it against stuff that we have.

这我明白了。

That makes sense.

好的。

Okay.

就两秒钟的事。

And it will take two seconds.

就是

It's just

我要不要

a Do I have

做这个吗？

to do it?

你完全不用做任何事。

You don't have to do anything.

好的。

Okay.

不过我们是在向路上的每个人提出请求，如果你愿意配合，那就太好了。

But, obviously, we're asking everybody on the street, and, it would be super helpful if you could.

对。

Right.

你明白的。

You know?

好吧。

Alright.

好的。

Okay.

你是Levi，对吧？

And you're Levi.

没错？

Right?

或者你去

Or you go to

Lewis？

Lewis Lewis?

我去找Lewis。

I'll find Lewis.

Lewis。

Lewis.

好的。

Okay.

他以前叫

His name used

你坐下对膝盖会更舒服一些。

It'll be easier if you sit down for your legs?

我先让亨特来。

I'll Hunter do it first.

我可以

I can

我来吧，没问题。

do it Alright.

你们得处理骨头。

You guys the bones.

你这样让他特别想参与。

You're making him so wanna be?

我也可以当第一个试验的人。

I can be the guinea pig too.

这就是我

It's what I

当然，我可以为它全部作证。

Of course, I can make that all stand for it.

侦探们开始为两位兄弟采集DNA样本，尽管亨特和丽贝卡明显更愿意配合，而列维则不然。

The detectives proceed to take DNA swabs from both brothers, though Hunter and Rebecca are clearly far more willing to cooperate than Levi.

但其中一位兄弟似乎没意识到，他越说，卡特兄弟就越不像目击者，而更像嫌疑人。

But what one of the brothers doesn't seem to realize is that the more he talks, the more the Carte brothers begin to look less like witnesses and more like suspects.

刘易斯后背有几个疤痕，但那只是手术留下的。

Lewis has a few scars on his back, but it's just from surgery.

是的。

Yeah.

因为我的。

Because my yeah.

我看不出来。

I don't see.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

你可以给他们看看。

You could show them.

抱歉。

Sorry.

哦，

Oh,

对。

yeah.

哇，真没想到。

Oh, wow.

嗯，看起来心理上挺回避的。

Well, looks pretty mentally evasive.

我不记得了，那是两年前的事了。

I don't It was two years ago.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

那可真不少

It was a lot.

没错

Yeah.

伤疤比这还多

Had more scars than that.

是的

Yeah.

看起来不是那样

Didn't look like that.

抱歉

Sorry.

我老是提到这些事。

I keep mentioning things.

我们有个很棒的医生。

We had a good surgeon.

需要你的同意。

Your permission.

我们这边没问题。

That's fine for us.

是的。

Yeah.

留下的疤挺多的。

Scars a lot.

史蒂文森医生。

Doctor Stevenson.

就是切口的位置，你觉得 scarf 路线怎么样？

It's where they go in, and they How does feel about the scarf route?

连着你的腿。

Links to your leg.

你们觉得或者知道到底发生了什么吗？

What do you guys suspect, or what do you guys know about what happened?

我可以跟你们说一点。

Well, I can tell you this.

这种情况不该发生，我们得弄清楚原因，好避免以后再出问题，毕竟我们不想错过任何重要证据。

It shouldn't happen, and we need to figure out why it happened so that, you know, hopefully, we can keep it from happening again because we'd hate to miss some evidence.

而且你们要是看过什么电视剧，就知道我们不想变成那种忘了做这一步、没去查那件事的警察。

And if you've watched any TV, we don't wanna be those cops that forgot to do this or look into that.

我们看过不少。

We have

看得可多了。

watched plenty.

他们特别喜欢真实犯罪类的节目。

They love the true crimes.

这有点像电视剧，但其实差别挺大的。

It's kinda like TV, but it's a lot different.

是的。

Yeah.

我和我

Me and my

哥哥，尤其是我哥哥，懂很多。

brother, especially my brother, know a lot.

我觉得，我哥哥对警察这一行真的特别了解。

I would say, definitely, my brother knows a lot about just the police in general.

他长大后想参军。

He wants to go into the marines when he gets older.

不错。

Nice.

哦，真不错。

Oh, nice.

是的。

Yeah.

招聘这事儿，确实一直都在。

Well, recruitment Yeah.

一直都存在。

Is always there.

大家都在找

Everybody's looking for

是的。

Yeah.

我感觉

It's I

这些岗位很难招到人。

mean Those are hard spots to fill

现在更难了。

any more.

我不太明白。

I don't get.

是的。

Yeah.

在我看来，每个人都有适合自己的位置。

There's there's a spot for everybody in my opinion.

洛伊斯和我都觉得，他尤其比同龄孩子成熟得多。

And Lois have both agreed that him especially is a lot more mature than most kids our age.

哦，那你能接受这个消息吗？

Oh, so you can handle this news?

你们处理得挺好的。

You guys are handling it pretty well.

可以。

Yes.

是的。

Yeah.

奇怪的是，亨特没等别人问就不断提供一些有意思的细节，坚持说那对少年兄弟比同龄孩子成熟得多。

Strangely, Hunter continues offering interesting details without being prompted, insisting that the teen brothers are far more mature than most kids their age.

当他提到列维的伤势时，列维明显坐立不安，冷冷地盯着哥哥，眼神让人发毛。

And when he brings up Levi's injuries, Levi becomes visibly uncomfortable, giving his brother a long, chilling stare.

到采访结束时，这对双胞胎在侦探眼里已经完全不像普通孩子了。

By the end of the interview, the twins no longer seem like ordinary kids to the detectives.

他们对真实犯罪的痴迷、对《嗜血法医》《迷雾记忆》这类血腥剧集的热衷，还有列维身上那些说不清道不明的猫抓痕，都指向某种令人不安的真相。

Their fascination with true crime, gory shows like Dexter, Foggy Memory, and, of course, the hard to explain cat scratches on Levi all point towards something deeply unsettling.

采集完DNA后，调查人员回到警局，向警长汇报了所有发现。

With DNA collected, investigators return to the station to brief the sergeant on everything they've uncovered.

现在他们只能等待第二天出炉的DNA检测结果——来自达里尔、卡特双胞胎，以及几位邻居和亲友的样本。

Now all they can do is wait for the DNA results from Daryl, the Carte twins, and several neighbors and family friends to come back the following day.

调查人员仍相信，可能有个精神异常的杀手在作案，只要他没落网，这个宁静小镇上就没有人真正安全。

Still believing a deranged killer may be at work, investigators know that until he or they are caught, no one in this quiet village is truly safe.

第二天，DNA检测结果终于出来了，调查人员全都震惊了。

The next day, the DNA results finally come in, and investigators are stunned.

丽贝卡的两个儿子的DNA都匹配，但这并不意味着他们俩都到过现场。

Both of Rebecca's sons are a match, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were both at the scene.

法医分析员说，实验室无法区分列维和亨特的DNA，因为同卵双胞胎的STR标记完全相同。

According to the forensic analyst, the lab cannot tell Levi's DNA apart from Hunter's because identical twins share the same STR markers.

不用说，调查人员现在面临一个极其罕见的难题。

Needless to say, investigators are now facing an extraordinarily rare problem.

但即便有了这些发现，侦探们还是难以接受嫌疑人居然只有十三岁这个事实。

But even with these findings, detectives struggle to process the facts that the suspects are only 13 years old.

他们不仅得心理异常，还得有足够体力才能实施如此暴力的犯罪。

Not only would they have to be deeply disturbed, but they would also need the physical strength to carry out a crime this violent.

不过话说回来，他们的年龄也可能对调查有利。

Then again, their age could also work in the investigators' favor.

青少年更容易说漏嘴，向朋友或家人坦白，或者在网上留下痕迹。

Teenagers are more likely to slip up, confess to friends or family, or leave evidence of their somewhere online.

问题是，侦探们虽然有足够的理由申请搜查令，却还不足以正式拘押丽贝卡或任何一个儿子——这一点绝对不能让家属察觉。

The problem is detectives have enough probable cause for a search warrant, but not enough to formally detain Rebecca or either brother, something they absolutely cannot let the family realize.

不过，他们还是回到了这家人住的地方，希望能说服丽贝卡带两个儿子去警局，这样一旦他们离开，调查人员就能立刻搜查房子。

Nevertheless, they return to the family home hoping they can persuade Rebecca to bring her sons to the station, allowing investigators to begin searching the house the moment they leave.

但现在的局面非常微妙。

But the situation is incredibly delicate.

只要稍有不慎，就可能惊动这家人，让整个调查彻底泡汤。

One wrong move could spook the family and shut down the entire investigation.

喂？

Hello?

喂，你好。

Hello, back.

嗨。

Hi.

我们回来了。

We're back.

是的。

Yeah.

哦，你好。

Oh, hi.

你钥匙还插在门上呢。

Was You left your keys in the door.

我们刚进屋。

We just walked in the house.

你需要进来吗？

Do you need to come in?

怎么了？

What's

没什么事。

going on?

是的，好。

Yeah.

那太好了。

That'd be great.

我们

We have

有几件事想聊聊。

a couple things to talk about.

好的。

Okay.

大家好。

Hi, guys.

我们刚坐下

We just sat down

准备吃饭。

to eat.

对。

Yeah.

能坐下来真好。

It's good to get.

谢谢。

Thanks.

你只是需要我吗？

Do you just need me?

或者

Or

是的。

Yeah.

我们先

We'll

所以你们

So Are

你们三个都在吗？

all three of you here?

你们三个都在吗？

Are all three of you here?

是的。

Yeah.

刘易斯。

Lewis.

我需要紧张吗？

You got Do I need to be nervous?

对。

Yep.

这让我有点紧张。

It's making me feel nervous.

放松点。

Relax.

你没事的。

You're okay.

你挺好的。

You're good.

是的。

Yeah.

你想坐那儿吗？

You wanna take

找个地方坐下吧？

a seat somewhere?

是的。

Yeah.

不用。

No.

好。

Okay.

不用。

No.

我不用非得坐回去。

I just don't have to sit back.

没关系。

It's okay.

你去坐下吧，这样没那么奇怪。

You wanna go sit down so it's a little less weird.

好的。

Yeah.

进来吧，放松点。

Come on in just relax yeah

你们是

you guys are

好的，行。

good okay

你们要不要坐这儿？这样更舒服些。

do you guys want to sit down here you're getting more comfortable

嘿，Louis，你确实拿到了国王牌吗？

hey Louis sure did you get kings too

是的，我们刚进门，想跟你们每个人谈谈。

yes we literally just walked in the door We need to talk to essentially each of you.

好的。

Okay.

我们想问问，能不能去一趟警察局，那里说话更方便些。

And we're wondering if we can go down to the police department just so we have a better area to talk.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

如果你们愿意，先穿上鞋袜，再披件外套，咱们就往那边走。

So if you guys want, let's put some shoes and socks on, maybe a coat, and then, we'll head head that way.

很明显，侦探们来的时候并没有周密的计划，完全是靠临场发挥。

Clearly, detectives didn't arrive with a strong plan and are instead relying heavily on improvisation.

不过奇怪的是，尽管他们还没准备好所有问题，却成功让这家人自愿去了警局。

Somehow though, despite not having their answers fully prepared, they appear to be succeeding in getting the family to the station voluntarily.

但这种办法撑不了太久，迟早会被人看穿。

But that can only work for so long before someone catches on.

我们需要找律师吗？

Do we need to be getting lawyers or something?

我有点

I'm feeling

对这件事感到不安。

nervous about this.

我不

I don't

你可以随时联系律师。

You're welcome to call an attorney.

而且，我们非去不可吗？

Also, like, do we have to go?

这是现在就得做的事吗？

Is this, like, a right now thing?

我们愿意。

We would like to.

对。

Yes.

那样的话确实会好一些。

It would make yeah.

我想，我们也不必做些什么。

Don't have to do anything, I suppose.

没错。

Right.

好吧。

Okay.

我不确定。

I don't know.

我感觉不太舒服。

I feel uncomfortable.

我们怎么才能到那儿呢？

I'm not We get how about we we get there?

我们可以简单说明一下情况。

We can explain kinda what's going on.

给你提供更多信息。

Give you some more info.

你随时可以，你知道的，好吧。

You can always, you know Okay.

在我们出发之前，你愿意解释一下发生了什么吗？

Do you wanna explain what's going on before we head out there?

我们到外面说，你介意吗？

And Do you mind if we do that outside?

好的。

Sure.

没问题。

Sure.

你们能等一下吗？

Do you guys wanna wait a second?

你是这个意思吗？

Is that what you mean?

哦。

Oh.

如果可能的话，三位都到外面来。

All three of you outside if if possible.

好的。

Okay.

女士，我们得跟您聊聊 neighborhood 里的一些事。

We just need to we need to go over some things in the neighborhood with you, ma'am.

我们可以回第五街去，这样就不必淋雨了。

We could go back to 5th so we don't have to sit in the rain.

对。

Yeah.

我这儿有些照片想给你看看，也给你儿子们看看。

And we got some some pictures I wanna show you, and I'll show you and your sons.

还有不少事情想跟你聊聊。

And there's a bunch of stuff we wanna talk to you about.

好的。

So k.

好的。

K.

行了。

Alright.

你们都准备好了吗？

You guys good?

我们是不是

Are we

我们被怀疑涉及什么事了吗？

in under suspicion for something?

或者

Or

我们只是想跟你聊聊。

We just wanna talk to you.

我觉得你们能帮我们把这里的事情弄清楚。

I think you guys could help us clear a lot of things up around here.

好的。

So Okay.

行吧。

Alright?

好。

Alright.

走吧。

Let's go.

喂，

Hey,

约翰。

John.

是的，长官。

Yes, sir.

他会和你们一起走。

And he'll ride with you.

天哪。

Oh my god.

好的。

Okay.

这样安排没问题。

That that works.

行。

K.

在上车之前，我得确认一下你身上没带什么东西。

Before we get in, I just gotta make sure there's nothing on you.

它会戳到我，顶着我，

It's gonna stick me, poking me,

划伤我。

cut me.

对。

Yep.

好的。

Alright.

太好了。

Excellent.

如果你现在能走过去到他那儿的话。

If you wanna step over there to him right there.

好的。

Alright.

你只需要把

You can just have

就坐在那儿

a seat right

好吧。

there for Okay.

我要把这个

Do I to put this

给你戴上吗

on you for the

我们开车要开整整三个街区吗？

whole three blocks we're driving?

大概会放那儿吧。

Probably will put them.

我的意思是，不过……

So I mean, but

我们什么都能聊。

there's nothing that we can't talk about.

对。

Yeah.

我也不知道怎么回事。

I don't know what's going on.

我也不清楚。

Neither do I.

这一切都太出乎意料了。

It's all very, very unexpected.

我的焦虑感瞬间飙升。

My anxiety levels went through the roof.

哦。

Oh.

我也不明白为什么会有这么多警车。

I don't know why there's so many, like, police vehicles either.

对。

Yeah.

那确实让我

That's definitely what scared

很害怕。

me.

看到那些

Seeing all the

警察马上开过来。

cops immediately pull up.

比如，有个人在那儿，没注意到另一个人把车开过来，然后车顶的车顶的车顶的……

Like, one person's there, didn't see that other guy pull up, then the top of the top of the the

也不知道他们为什么拼命想吓唬我们。

know why they're trying best intimidate us.

对。

Right.

尽管侦探处理得乱七八糟，丽贝卡也越来越怀疑，但他们还是奇迹般地说服了家人去警局。

Miraculously, despite the detective's sloppy handling of the situation and Rebecca's growing skepticism, they still managed to convince the family to come to the station.

目前，他们故意把双胞胎关在一起，希望监控能拍到一些对他们不利的证据。

For now, they've purposely kept the twins together, hoping the cameras might catch something incriminating.

但兄弟俩早就见过这一招，选择一言不发，天真地以为自己比警察高明。

But the brothers have seen this tactic before and say nothing, foolishly convinced they're outsmarting the police.

调查人员还刚刚没收了他们的手机，并从丽贝卡那里拿到了家门钥匙，以便开始搜查房屋，寻找能将两个男孩与案件联系起来的证据。

Investigators have also just confiscated their phones and obtained house keys from Rebecca, allowing them to begin searching the home for any evidence tying the boys to the crime.

尽管取得了这些小进展，但侦探们这时该清醒一下了——他们的策略可能行不通。

But despite these small victories, this is where detectives would face a major reality check about their strategy.

到达警局后，双胞胎被悄悄从侧门带入，与母亲分开。

Upon arriving at the station, the twins are quietly escorted through a separate entrance and separated from their mother.

双胞胎看起来并不紧张，平静地跟着侦探走进审讯室。

The twins don't seem particularly worried, calmly following detectives into the interrogation rooms.

但对丽贝卡来说，情况截然不同。当她终于得知儿子们将在她不在场的情况下接受讯问时，一切都乱了套。

But for Rebecca, the situation is very different because the moment she's finally informed that her sons are about to be questioned without her present, all hell breaks loose.

我不饿。

I don't want food.

我要让我们的律师在场，并且立刻停止在没有律师的情况下询问我的孩子们。

I want this as our lawyer and have my children stop being questioned without a lawyer present immediately.

好的。

Okay.

那我们就这么办。

So let's make that happen.

我不清楚你认识谁，谁在搞什么名堂？

I don't know who you know who's doing what, wire?

不是。

Nope.

但我可以去。

But I can Go.

我去帮你把这事安排好。

Go get that figured out for you.

我们现在需要给你安排一个休息室。

We need a staff room for you now.

好的

Yep.

好的

Okay.

明白

Yeah.

我去吧

I'll go.

好的

Okay.

我明白了

I got it.

我拿到拖鞋了

I got my slippers.

我们刚从诊所回来

We just got home from the doctor's office.

那条修身长裤。

Those slim pants.

特别舒服。

So comfy.

确实很舒服。

They are comfy.

是亚马逊买的？

Amazon?

不是啊。

Not yeah.

亚马逊上有购物凭证。

Receipts on Amazon.

别人总是跟你过不去。

People are so against you.

真的吗？

Really?

我知道你是好意。

I know you're being friendly.

我必须弄清楚。

I need to know.

我的孩子不会接受质询。

My children are not being questioned.

不行。

No.

他们有律师。

They have a lawyer.

你们没告诉我们我们被扣留了。

You didn't let us know that we're being detained.

你没有被扣留。

You're not being detained.

你可以随时离开。

You're free to go.

你们没告诉我们你们扣着我的孩子。

You didn't let us know that you were detaining my children.

他们可以走了。

They're free to leave.

你们现在没这么做吗？

You did not right now?

他们现在就可以走。

They're allowed to leave right now.

我们走吧。

Let's go.

现在就走。

Right now.

现在就走。

Right now.

你说过他们可以走的。

You said they're allowed to leave.

是还是不是？

Yes or no?

你不能带他们走。

You cannot take them.

很明显，这可不是侦探们希望看到的局面。

Clearly, this is not how detectives hoped things would go.

丽贝卡非常愤怒，而且也不是没道理。

Rebecca is furious, and not without reason.

侦探刚承认那两个男孩可以离开，可丽贝卡一要求放人，他却毫无行动。

The detective just admitted that the boys are free to leave yet does nothing when Rebecca demands exactly that.

更糟的是，她的手机被没收了，连给律师打电话都做不到。

On top of that, her phone has been confiscated making it impossible for her to even call the lawyer.

就在此刻，侦探这种做法——或者说根本没做法——背后的风险再也无法忽视了。

It's here that the risk behind the detective's strategy or lack thereof becomes impossible to ignore.

这种做法的好处在于，通过隐瞒男孩们被扣留的真实原因，侦探能限制嫌疑人掌握的信息，让他们难以编造一致的说辞，后续更容易揪出漏洞。

The advantage of this approach is that by withholding the real reason the boys are there, detectives limit the information the suspects can tailor their stories to, making contradictions and inconsistencies much easier to catch later.

不过，当这些嫌疑人是未成年人，而侦探又需要母亲配合时，这种策略很容易适得其反，破坏信任，动摇整个程序的正当性。

That said, when those suspects are minors and detectives need their mother's cooperation, this strategy can quickly backfire, undermining trust and damaging the legitimacy of the entire process.

不出所料，丽贝卡的愤怒才刚刚开始，她冲出审讯室，想找个人告诉她到底发生了什么。

And unsurprisingly, Rebecca's outrage is only beginning as she storms out of the interrogation room in search of anyone willing to tell her what's really going on.

你们是在指控他们犯了谋杀罪吗？

Are you accusing them of murder?

这就是他们被扣留的原因吗？

Is that why they're being detained?

是因为他们涉嫌谋杀吗？

Because they're under suspicion for murder?

是的。

Yeah.

问问题是为了搞清楚

Question to find out

他们是否知道更多细节。

if they know any additional details.

除非你们指控他们谋杀，而且你们觉得就是他们干的，否则他们怎么可能知道什么细节？

How would they know anything unless you were accusing them of murder and you think that they murdered someone?

所以我说，整个这套把戏——你们这么处理事情，一点一点地给我看东西，不是因为你们坦诚，而是因为我不断提问，这完全不可接受。

So that's I'm saying this whole charade, this whole the way we've gone about this and approached it and slowly showed things to me because I've asked questions and not because you are transparent is not okay.

它明明白白写着：我们有权搜查你们所有物品。

It literally just says we have the ability to search all of your belongings.

但它没说为什么要搜查，只写了‘因为谋杀’。

It doesn't say For what reason would they wanna search at the It says for murder.

因为我们正在调查邻居家的谋杀案。

Because we're investigating the murder of the neighbor.

我那两个十三岁的孩子根本没杀过人。

And my 13 year olds have not murdered any.

明白了。

Okay.

我们是在努力寻找昨天被掩盖的线索，把事情拼凑起来。

Well, we're trying to find further information that was dissolved yesterday to put the pieces together.

所以没人愿意告诉我任何事。

So I'm not gonna be told anything.

为什么我不被问话？

Why am I not being questioned?

如果您愿意聊聊，我们非常乐意和您谈。

We would love to talk to you if you would be willing to talk.

我就站在这儿等着呢。

I'm literally standing here waiting.

我们本来想和您谈的，但您一直忙着打电话，做这做那。

Well, we were trying to talk to you, but you want to make phone calls and do all those things.

如果您想谈，您心里清楚得很。

If you'd like to talk, we You're can well aware.

嗨。

Hey.

最近怎么样？

What's up?

很多，也什么都没有，因为你根本没告诉我任何事。

A lot and nothing because you're not telling me anything.

我猜是因为我

I would assume because I

我要求见律师，是为了保持冷静。

asked for a lawyer for the poise.

他说是因为我们昨天聊过，所以我才问他。

He's saying because we talked yesterday I'm asking him.

哦，不是的。

Oh, no.

不好意思。

Sorry.

我其实一直在努力，就是想把事情说清楚。

I'm really working on I for

我知道。

I know.

我明白。

I understand.

我理解。

I understand.

你有充分的理由感到激动。

You have every light to be worked up.

只是试着

Just trying

我只是想把它理清楚。

to I'm just trying to sort it out.

好的。

Alright.

我会通知你的。

I'll let you know.

那么，他们是以什么理由被审问的？

So under under what grounds are they being questioned?

是什么让他们起了疑心？

What prompted them?

就在街对面发生了一起抢劫案。

There was a robbery that happened across the street.

我明白这一点，但到底是什么具体原因让你们把我们的人带去问话？

I understand that, but what what specifically about our boys is causing you guys to bring them to the station for questioning?

这些细节我不清楚，因为负责调查的人知道得比我多。

Those details, I don't know because those investigators know more about that than I did.

你们是不是把每个邻居都带过来了？昨天我们就抓了25个人。

Are there other are you guys bringing in every neighbor to We did 25 yesterday.

我知道我和另一位特工也被叫到警局去了。

I know myself and another agent To in in to the station.

我不清楚到底有多少人被带到这里。

Well, I don't know how many people got brought here.

我们还在那栋房子里执行搜查令。

This is we're also doing a search warrant at the house too.

所以法官批准了对她的房子和还有谁的搜查令？

So judges granted us Search warrant for her house and who else?

搜查令只覆盖那栋房子和院子里的车辆。

Well, the the search warrant is for the house and the vehicle on the property.

我们的房子和车子。

Our house and vehicle

在

on

院子里。

the property.

还有没有其他搜查令？屋顶上什么都没有。

Were there other search warrants for Nothing on roof.

你们在盘问两个十三岁的男孩。

You guys are questioning two 13 year old boys.

我们没有。

Well, we're not.

有人在查。

Someone is.

你说得完全对。

You're absolutely correct.

但我不是那个意思，你明白吧。

But I don't You know what I'm saying.

我明白。

I do.

所以我们现在就得让律师过来。

This is why we need our lawyer down here now.

我们必须马上办成这件事。

We need to make this happen.

我没手机，所以这事得你们那边立刻处理，不管找谁。

I don't have a phone, so this needs to happen on your end immediately, whoever we call.

在从侦探那里得不到什么答复后，双胞胎的父亲联系了律师，希望他能出面干预。

After getting little to no answers from the detectives, the twins' father calls a lawyer hoping he can intervene.