Duo’s Film Club - Coco

大家好，我是马丁娜·卡斯特罗，欢迎回到Duo电影俱乐部，这是Duolingo西班牙语播客的最新一季。

Hola listeners, I'm Martina Castro, we're back with another episode of Duo's Film Club, the newest season of the Duolingo Spanish podcast.

这一季，我们将深入探讨一些最具代表性的西语电影。

This season, we're exploring some of the most iconic Spanish language films.

无论你有没有看过，我们都会用独特的双语形式，带你了解这些影片的独特之处。

And whether you've seen them or not, you're going to learn what makes these movies so special in our signature bilingual format.

今天我们要聊的电影，是全家人都爱的《寻梦环游记》。

Our movie pick today is a family favorite, Coco.

我猜你们大多数人应该都看过，但很可能看的是英文版。

I bet most of you have seen it, but chances are you watched it in English.

我就是。

I did.

它最初在2017年以英文版上映，还拿下了奥斯卡最佳动画长片奖。

It was originally released in English in 2017, and it won an Oscar for best animated feature.

不过迪士尼和皮克斯也制作了一个由墨西哥配音演员出演的西班牙语版本。

But Disney and Pixar also made a Spanish version with Mexican voice actors.

今天我们要讨论的，就是这个西班牙语版本的电影。

And that's the version of the movie we're discussing today.

《寻梦环游记》之所以成为经典，是因为它生动呈现了墨西哥文化中最重要的节日之一——亡灵节。

Coco is an iconic film because it captures one of the most important celebrations in Mexican culture, the day of the death or el Dia de los Muertos.

这位是毛里西奥·加西亚。

That's Mauricio Garcilla.

你可能在之前的一期《Duo电影俱乐部》里听过他的声音。

You may have heard him in an earlier session of Duo's Film Club.

这次他又回来了，和我们分享他对墨西哥电影的见解。

Well, he's back again to share his expertise in Mexican cinema.

你猜怎么着？

And guess what?

毛里西奥出生并成长在正是这部电影灵感来源的地区——米却肯。

Mauricio was born and raised in the very region of Mexico that inspired the movie, Michoacan.

准备好爆米花，别走开，毛里西奥会带我们深入了解《寻梦环游记》，这些内容你哪儿都找不到。

So grab some popcorn and stick around because Mauricio will be giving us an inside look at Coco that you won't find anywhere else.

如果你打算看这部电影，它属于PG级，适合全家一起观看，就像我们今天的这期节目一样。

And if you plan to watch the movie, it's rated PG, so it's family friendly, just like our episode today.

在深入这部电影之前，我们得先聊聊墨西哥文化中一个非常重要的部分。

Before we dive into the film, there's a really important aspect of Mexican culture we have to talk about first.

那就是亡灵节的庆祝活动。

It's the celebration of el Dia de los Muertos.

每年十一月，家人们都会搭建祭坛，纪念已故的祖先。

It happens every year in November when families create an altar or altar to honor their ancestors or ancestros who have passed on.

这个传统，Mauricio从小就开始参与了。

It's a tradition that Mauricio has celebrated ever since he was a kid.

现在你了解了亡灵节——这正是整部电影的背景，我们可以更深入地探讨了。

So now that you know about el Dia de los Muertos, which is basically the backdrop of the entire movie, we can dig a little deeper.

《寻梦环游记》讲述的是一个12岁男孩米格尔的故事，他住在墨西哥的一个小镇上。

Coco tells the story of Miguel, a 12 year old boy who lives in a small Mexican town.

他特别热爱弹吉他和唱歌。

He absolutely loves to play the guitar and to sing.

但他家人不让他碰音乐，因为有一位祖先是个音乐家，当年抛下全家走了。

But his family wants him to have nothing to do with music because one of his ancestors was a musician who abandoned the family.

可米格尔还是决心追求自己的音乐梦想。

Still, Miguel is determined to follow his singing dreams.

就在亡灵节那天，一件神奇的事发生了。

Then on el Dia de los Muertos, something magical happens.

他来到了亡灵世界。

He journeys to the land of the dead.

在亡灵世界里，米格尔想找他的偶像——恩内斯托·德·拉·克鲁斯，因为他坚信这位著名歌手就是自己失散多年的曾曾祖父。

While he's in the land of the dead, Miguel tries to find his idol or idolo, Ernesto de la Cruz, because he's convinced that this famous singer is also his long lost great great grandfather.

在那儿，他还遇到了另一个重要角色，一个叫埃克托的骗子。

And while Miguel is there, he meets another important character, a trickster named Hector.

米格尔之所以觉得德·拉·克鲁斯是祖先，是因为一张老照片。

The reason Miguel thinks Dela Cruz is his ancestor is because of an old family photo.

照片里，他的曾曾祖父站在一把吉他旁边，但脸被撕掉了，这反而更激发了米格尔的寻找决心。

In the photo, we see Miguel's great great grandfather standing next to a guitar, but his face is missing, which fuels Miguel's search even more.

莫里西奥解释了为什么家庭照片对这个节日如此重要。他刚才提到的那位导演是亚德里安·莫利纳。

Mauricio explains why family photos are essential to the holiday The film director that Mauricio just mentioned is Adrian Molina.

他一直紧密联系着自己在墨西哥的家族根源，这一点在作品中处处都能感受到。

He has always stayed connected to his family's roots in Mexico, and you can feel that in his work.

在调研过程中，莫利纳发现墨西哥某些地区有着独特的亡灵节习俗，比如我们的嘉宾莫里西奥家乡所在的米却肯州。

During his research, Bolina discovered that certain regions of Mexico have their own special rituals for el Dia de los Muertos, like the state of Michoacan, where our guest Mauricio is from.

整个小镇被烛光温柔点亮。

An entire town illuminated by candlelight.

真美啊。

How beautiful.

谁不想亲眼看看这样的景象呢？

Who wouldn't love to see that?

米却肯有着如此深厚的文化底蕴，常被称为墨西哥的灵魂，而《寻梦环游记》里的许多元素都源自那里小镇的生活。

Michoacan has such a rich heritage that it's often called the soul of Mexico, and so many aspects of Coco are inspired by the small town life there.

比如，米格尔一家就是做鞋的，当地人叫他们‘萨帕特罗斯’。

For example, Miguel comes from a family of shoemakers, or sapateros.

这种对细节的讲究让《寻梦环游记》格外出众。

This attention to detail makes Coco stand out.

这是皮克斯第一部以墨西哥文化为主题的电影，团队希望所有元素都真实还原，包括音乐。

It was Pixar's first film to feature Mexican culture, and the team wanted everything to be authentic, including the music.

电影的音乐太棒了，2018年直接拿下了奥斯卡最佳原创歌曲奖。

It was so good that Coco won an Oscar for best original song in 2018.

对。

Yes.

歌曲特别动人，真的让故事更加打动人。

The songs are so moving and definitely add to the storyline.

但让《寻梦环游记》另一大亮点的是它的动画效果。

But something else that sets Coco apart is the animation.

画面明亮鲜艳，而且同样非常地道。

It's bright, colorful, and again, very authentic.

接下来我们进入一个电影里的语言学习片段，帮你更深入地理解墨西哥文化，点击播放吧。

Now let's move on to a language learning moment from the film to deepen your cultural understanding in our segment or press play.

今天我们要看一段开场场景，米格尔的奶奶向他解释为什么亡灵节如此重要。

Today, we have a clip from one of the opening scenes when Miguel's grandmother tells him why el Dia de los Muertos is so important.

先简单说一个词汇。

Just one quick vocabulary note.

当她说到‘Ofrenda’时，指的是家里的祭坛。

When you hear her say, Ofrenda, she's referring to the family's altar.

好，我们开始吧。

Okay, here we go.

在这段视频里，米格尔的奶奶在讲述家里的祭坛，她还给他看祭坛上摆满了鲜花、食物、蜡烛和祖先的照片。

In this clip, we hear Miguel's grandmother talking about their family altar, and she shows him how it's decorated with flowers, food, candles, and photos of their ancestors.

接着，在场景结尾，米格尔的奶奶说了一句非常关键的话。

Then, at the end of the scene, Miguel's grandmother says something really important.

这段话让莫里西奥特别有共鸣。

That sentiment really hit home for Mauricio.

表面上看，《寻梦环游记》讲的是一个冒险故事，但他认为，这其实是一个关于身份认同的故事。

While on the surface, Coco looks like a movie about a journey, he says it's ultimately a story about identity.

不管你有没有看过《寻梦环游记》，今天的内容肯定会让你对这部电影有新的发现。

Whether you've seen Coco or not, we're pretty sure today's will teach you something new about the movie.

我们请嘉宾毛里西奥分享了一些他觉得特别有趣的关于《寻梦环游记》的小知识，他真说出了不少精彩的内容。

We asked our guest Mauricio to share some of his favorite fun facts about Coco, and he has some really good ones.

第一条。

Number one.

米格尔那位忠心耿耿的毛茸茸朋友——但丁，其灵感来源于墨西哥一种已经存在了几千年的无毛犬。

The inspiration behind Miguel's loyal furry friend, Dante, is a breed of hairless dog that has existed in Mexico for thousands of years.

这种狗叫墨西哥无毛犬。

They're called cholo dogs.

为了把但丁的形象做到极致，皮克斯的动画师们还把真实的墨西哥无毛犬带到了工作室里观察。

And to get Dante exactly right, Pixar animators brought real life cholo dogs to the studio.

第二个有趣的小知识跟《寻梦环游记》里的音乐有关。

Fun fact number two is about the music in Coco.

你还记得那个歌手，欧内斯托·德拉克鲁兹吗？

Remember the character Ernesto de la Cruz, the singer?

其实，这个角色的灵感来自两位真实的墨西哥电影传奇人物：豪尔赫·内格雷特和佩德罗·因凡特。

Well, he's actually inspired by two real life Mexican cinema legends, Jorge Negrete and Pedro Infante.

原来如此。

Okay.

最后一个。

Last one.

第三点。

Number three.

最初这部电影原名打算叫‘亡灵节’，迪士尼还试图注册这个商标，可这名字本来就是节日的名称。

Originally, the movie was gonna be called Dia de los Muertos, and Disney tried to trademark the title, which, of course, is also the name of the holiday.

这引发了强烈反对，因为许多墨西哥裔美国人觉得这是在文化挪用。

This ignited a backlash because many Mexican Americans felt like it was cultural appropriation.

于是皮克斯改了片名。

So Pixar changed the name.

还有一条额外的冷知识，不过会剧透。

And now we have one more bonus trivia, but it's a spoiler.

如果你还没看这部电影，就直接跳到结尾，或者看完后再回来。

So if you haven't watched the movie, skip ahead to the end or come back when you've caught up.

来，听好了。

Here it goes.

电影快结束时，米格尔才发现，他的曾曾祖父其实就是赫克托——那个骗人却成了他朋友的角色。

By the end of the movie, Miguel realizes that his great great grandfather really is Hector, the trickster who becomes his friend.

结果证明，大家都搞错了。

And it turns out that everyone was wrong.

赫克托从来没有抛弃过家人。

Hector never abandoned his family.

他是被朋友出卖了，之后一直在亡灵世界游荡，只为了找到回亲人身边的路。

He was betrayed by his friend, and ever since, he had been wandering the land of the dead, trying to find a way back to his loved ones.

这个结局出人意料，打破了墨西哥电影里常见的刻板印象。

It's a surprise ending that challenges the stereotype in a lot of Mexican movies.

这个结尾既温暖又动人，也为今天《杜邦电影俱乐部》的这期节目画上了完美的句号。

It's such a sweet ending for the movie and for today's session of Duo's Film Club.

感谢我们的特邀影评人莫里西奥·加西亚。

Thank you to our guest critic Mauricio Garcia.

他目前在墨西哥城担任埃迪西奥内斯·卡尔·亚雷纳出版社的编辑。

He currently works in Mexico City as an editor at Ediciones Cal Yarena.

本期节目由来自布宜诺斯艾利斯的记者兼作家塔利·戈德曼撰写。

This episode was written by Tali Goldman, a journalist and writer based in Buenos Aires.

下周我们将用一部古巴经典影片为本季的Duo电影俱乐部画上句号，想提前热身的话不妨先看看。

Next week, we are going to wrap up this season of Duo's Film Club with a cult classic from Cuba, Check it out if you want to get ready before our final episode is out.

啊，我特别喜欢《寻梦环游记》。

Ah, I love Coco.

欢迎告诉我们你对这部电影和这期节目的看法。

Let us know what you think of the movie and what you thought of this episode.

你可以给我们发邮件到 podcast@duolingo.com，或者通过WhatsApp给我们录个语音消息，号码是 +1 (703) 953-9369。

You can write us an email at podcast@duolingo.com or send us an audio message on WhatsApp at +1 (703) 953-9369.

别忘了报上你的名字和你来自哪里。

Don't forget to say your name and where you're from.

如果你喜欢这期节目，我们真的特别希望你能分享出去。

If you liked this episode, we really would love it if you'd share it.

音频和文字稿都可以在 podcast.duolingo.com 上找到。

You can find the audio and a transcript at podcast.duolingo.com.

你也可以在 Apple 播客或者你常用的听播客应用里关注我们，这样就不会错过任何一期了。

You can also follow us on Apple Podcasts or on your favorite listening app so you never miss an episode.

Duolingo 拥有超过五亿用户，是全球领先的语言学习平台，也是全球下载量最大的教育类应用。

With over 500,000,000 users, Duolingo is the world's leading language learning platform and the most downloaded education app in the world.

Duolingo 相信，教育应该免费、有趣，并且对每个人开放。

Duolingo believes in making education free, fun, and available to everyone.

想加入吗？今天就下载应用，或者上 duolingo.com 了解更多吧。

To join, download the app today or find out more at duolingo.com.

《Duolingo 西班牙语播客》由 Duolingo 和 el Dodon de Media 联合制作。

The Duolingo Spanish podcast is produced by Duolingo and el Dodon de Media.

我是执行制片人，也是你们的主持人，马丁娜·卡斯特罗。

I'm the executive producer and your host, Martina Castro.