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我回来了,今天和亚当·布朗聊聊。
I'm back with Adam Brown.
你现在领导谷歌深脑的Blueshift项目,专注于科学与推理的突破。
You currently lead Blueshift at Google DeepMind, is cracking science and reasoning.
以前,亚当是一位多产的物理学家,在斯坦福大学教书,研究范围从宇宙学到弦理论,再到广义相对论。
In a previous life, Adam was a prolific physicist, taught at Stanford, and did research on everything from cosmology to string theory to general relativity.
有人说,广义相对论是人类头脑所构思或见过的最优雅的理论。
It said that general relativity is the most beautiful thing the human mind has ever conceived or seen.
我很好奇,像我这样的普通人,有没有办法不花二十节课的时间,也能理解它到底在说什么,或者感受一下它为什么这么美。
And I was curious if there's a way that ordinary people like me could understand what is happening or have some vintage on why it's beautiful without taking your 20 lecture graduate course.
所以这就是今天这场对话的由来,非常感谢你愿意来分享。
So that was the prompt for this lecture, and I appreciate you being willing
我很乐意参与。
to do it.
能来这里真的特别激动。
Super exciting to be here.
是的,我认为答案是肯定的。
And yes, I think the answer is yes.
没错,我们做得到。
Yes, we can.
当然。
Yeah.
所以,广义相对论——爱因斯坦的引力理论,正如你所说,堪称人类历史上由单一个人创造的最美妙的成果。
So, I mean, general relativity, Einstein's theory of gravity is, as I think, as you say, like, the most beautiful product of a single mind that we've ever created.
它是二十世纪物理学两大基石之一,另一个是量子力学。
It's one of the two great theories of twentieth century physics along with quantum mechanics.
但与量子力学不同,广义相对论基本上完全是爱因斯坦一个人的成就。
Unlike quantum mechanics, it was basically Einstein.
他虽然有一点协助,但主要是他一个人坚持了十年,最终提出了这套理论,不仅解释了太阳系中行星的运动,还揭示了宇宙的起源与命运,实在非同寻常。
He had a little help, but basically one person doggedly pursuing this idea for ten years and then wrote down this theory that ends up describing the motion of planets in the solar system and also the the origin and fate of the universe, and it's pretty pretty extraordinary.
而爱因斯坦,这位历史上最杰出的头脑之一,也花了整整十年才完成这项工作。
And it took Einstein, one of the most famous minds in history, about a decade to figure it out.
不过呢,我教这门课的时候,会安排一个十周的课程。
But, you know, when I teach it, I'll do a ten week course.
十周下来,学生们对广义相对论的理解,反而比爱因斯坦当年花十年才得到的还要透彻。
And so in ten weeks, people will get a better idea of general relativity than Einstein really had in ten years.
这主要是因为我们有爱因斯坦他们这些前辈打下的基础,他们把那些当年被认为只有天才才能懂的、极其复杂的想法,提炼成了最核心的部分,还避开了前人犯过的很多错误。
And that's kind of because we have an advantage that Einstein didn't have, which is that we have Einstein and many others like him going before us who are able to take these super complicated ideas that were understood at the time as being totally incomprehensible by anybody with a sub Einstein level of intelligence and boil them down to their essentials, and, you know, not make many of the same mistakes that were made by our forebearers.
我想,用十到二十分钟,我没法让你比爱因斯坦当年理解得更深,但我们可以直达他最得意的那个洞见,顺着这个核心思想,搞清楚这整个理论到底在说什么。
I think in, you know, ten, twenty minutes, I can't give you a better idea of general relativity than Einstein had, but we can get to the the core insight, what Einstein said was his most beautiful idea, and push through it to try and understand what the central idea of this this theory is.
好的。
Okay.
我们开始吧。
Let's go.
在广义相对论之前,先有狭义相对论。
Before general relativity, there was there was special relativity.
所谓‘狭义’,就是说它不适用于所有情况。
So special, meaning it doesn't apply everywhere.
这也是爱因斯坦在十年前,也就是1905年,他的奇迹之年里提出的。
That was also invented by Einstein ten years earlier, in 1905, during his annus mirabilis.
如果你要给狭义相对论找个口号,那第一句肯定是:没有什么能比光速更快。
And, you know, if you want to sloganize special relativity, you would start with the observation or the hypothesis that nothing can go faster than light.
狭义相对论就是把这一观察提升为基本原理,把它当作理解时空的核心,然后你就得到了狭义相对论。
Special relativity takes that observation, promotes it to a principle, takes that principle extremely seriously as the central observation of our understanding of spacetime, and you arrive at special relativity.
狭义相对论适用于电磁学。
Special relativity applies to electromagnetism.
虽然当时爱因斯坦还不知道这些,但它同样直接适用于另外两种基本力——强核力和弱核力。
Though Einstein didn't even know about these at the time, it applies straightforwardly to the strong and weak nuclear forces, two of the other fundamental forces that we know about.
但它显然不适用于引力。
It does not obviously apply to gravity.
十年后,爱因斯坦修正了这一点。
And so that was corrected ten years later by Einstein.
他提出了广义相对论,这个理论更全面,因为它包含了引力,从而完整地涵盖了所有基本力。
In his general theory of relativity, a theory more general because it includes gravity, completes the set of fundamental forces.
同样是爱因斯坦经过十年不懈努力后,于1915年提出的。
Again, invented by Einstein after ten years of dogged pursuit in 1915.
如果要给广义相对论找个口号,你可能会说:连引力也不行。
If you wanted to sloganize generalizivity, you might say, not even gravity.
没有什么能超过光速。
Nothing can go faster than light.
连引力也不行。
Not even gravity.
这其中的内容远不止这些,但它确实完整地勾勒出‘没有任何东西能超过光速’这一核心理念的脉络。
There's much more to it than that, but it's going to complete this this this this arc of the centrality of nothing being able to go faster than the speed of light.
明白了。
Okay.
所以,为了理解背景,我们得往后倒一倒。
So to see, you know, some some background here, we're going have to rewind.
得一直倒回到爱因斯坦之前的引力理论。
And we're going to have to rewind all the way back to the theory of gravity that existed before Einstein.
爱因斯坦时代的主流引力理论,其实可以追溯到十七世纪末的牛顿。
The reigning theory of gravity at the time of Einstein stretches all the way back to Newton in the late seventeenth century.
咱们来聊聊这个。
So let's let's talk about that.
牛顿在1687年的《自然哲学的数学原理》里提出了他的定律,他其实有不少条。
So Newton's laws in his Principia in 1687, Newton's laws, well, he had a few.
今天咱们最值得谈的,是其中两条,尤其是他著名的第二定律:加速度a由力F决定,公式是ma等于F。
And, you know, maybe the one that we could most talk about today is is two of them, which is his famous second law that says the acceleration a caused by a force is given by the formula MA equals F.
也就是说,如果你施加一个力F,物体会产生加速度a,而质量则代表物体抵抗加速的程度。
That if you have a force F, it'll cause an acceleration on an object given by a, where the mass tells you how much a object resists being accelerated.
质量越大,要让物体获得同样的加速度,就需要越大的力。
The bigger the mass, the bigger the force you need to do to cause a given acceleration.
这条定律,也就是他的第二定律,在广义相对论里依然成立。
And this law, his second law, will turn out to be, still true once we come to General relativity.
我们对力和加速度的理解会变得更复杂,但广义相对论会保留这个核心关系。
We'll have to have a more sophisticated understanding of what we mean by force and acceleration, but this will be preserved by General relativity.
牛顿第一定律是第二定律的一个特例。
A special case of the Second Law is Newton's First Law.
牛顿第一定律说,如果合力为零,那么加速度也为零。
Newton's First Law says that if the force is zero, then the acceleration is zero.
如果不受外力,物体就会一直保持匀速直线运动。
If the force is zero, then objects continue to move on a straight line at all times.
在广义相对论里,这一点依然成立:只要没有外力作用,物体就会沿直线运动。
And that will also continue to be true in general relativity, that if not subject to an external force, objects move along straight lines.
不过,我们得重新理解什么是力,什么是直线。
However, we'll have to upgrade our understanding of what we mean by force and what we mean indeed by straight line.
这一点会继续成立。
Okay, that's going to keep being true.
但不会成立的是牛顿的万有引力定律。
The one that's not going to keep being true is Newton's law of gravity.
牛顿的引力理论告诉我们物体在受力时如何加速,但你得先知道这个力是什么,才能用它做计算。
So Newtonian gravity, this tells you what the acceleration is in response to a force, but you need to know what the force is to be able to do anything with that.
牛顿的万有引力定律说,两个物体之间引力的大小,等于一个基本常数——也就是万有引力常数——乘以第一个物体的质量,再乘以第二个物体的质量,比如太阳质量乘以地球质量,然后除以它们之间距离的平方,这就是著名的平方反比定律。
And Newton's law of gravity says that the force caused by the gravitational interaction of two bodies is, well, what's called Newton's constants, just some, some constant of nature, times the mass of one body, times the mass of the other body, the mass of the sun times the mass of the earth, divided by the distance between them squared, his famous inverse square law.
这个力是一个矢量,方向沿着两个物体的连线,并且是相互吸引的。
And it points it's a vector that points in the direction of separation, and it's attractive.
所以公式里有个负号。
So there's a minus sign there.
但在广义相对论里,这个说法就不成立了。
This will not be true in general relativity.
事实上,你马上就能看出,这个引力定律和‘任何东西都不能超光速’的说法之间存在矛盾。
And in fact, you immediately see that there's a tension between this gravitational force law and the claim that nothing can go faster than the speed of light.
如果这个定律字面成立,那只要轻轻动一下太阳,按照最直接的理解,地球受到的引力就会立刻发生变化。
If this was literally true, then by jiggling the sun, a court you know, a straightforward interpretation of this this law would just say that the force at the Earth varies immediately.
我只要改变地球和太阳之间的距离,地球那边就能立刻察觉到,而不是要等上八分钟。
I've changed the distance of the Earth and the Sun, and so I can immediately detect it at the Earth, not eight minutes later, but just immediately.
这就意味着,你实际上能传递一种超光速的影响。
So that would imply that you could send an influence faster than the speed of light.
牛顿的引力定律和这个原理是矛盾的。
It is inconsistent, Newton's Force Law, with this principle.
当然,一种可能是,这个原则适用于非引力的力,但一旦涉及引力就不成立了。
One option, of course, could be that this is true for non gravitational forces, but, not true once you have gravity.
事实上,如果利用引力,你或许能造出一种超光速的电话,靠引力效应来传递信息。
And indeed, using gravity, you could perhaps build a a faster than light telephone, using gravitational effects.
这听起来是个可能,但爱因斯坦根本不想接受这种想法。
That's a possibility, but not a possibility that Einstein really wanted to embrace.
他花了多年时间,试图排除任何超光速运动或超光速影响的可能性。
He'd spent, many years chasing out any possibility of going faster than light or any superluminal influences.
所以爱因斯坦,还有当时很多科学家,都认为必须放弃的是这个引力定律。
And so Einstein, and in fact, many people at the time, thought that this is the one that has to give.
而事实上,后来证明确实如此。
And indeed, that is, in fact, what's going to turn out to true.
明白了。
Okay.
那么,我们现在说到哪儿了?
So, you know, where are we?
其实这里有个先例,说明平方反比定律可以被修正,从而与狭义相对论保持一致。
There's actually a precedent here for an inverse square law getting modified in such a way that it ends up being consistent with special relativity.
这个先例就是自然界中的另一种力——电力。
And that precedent is the other force of nature, the electric force.
同样存在一个静电作用定律,虽然不是牛顿提出的,但大约一个世纪后被确立了,它指出两个带电物体之间的静电作用力,形式上和引力非常相似。
So there's also the electrostatic force law, not written down by Newton, but written down, you know, a century or so later, which says that the force caused not by the gravitational interaction of two objects, but by the the electrostatic interaction of two charged objects has a very similar form to the gravitational force.
它表明,力等于某个常数乘以两个物体的电荷量,方向沿着它们之间的连线,再除以距离的平方,又是另一个平方反比关系。
It tells you that the force is equal to some constant times the charge of one object times the charge of the other object, pointing also in the direction of separation between the two objects, divided by the distance squared, another inverse square law.
同样地,正是因为这个原因,静电学看起来似乎和狭义相对论不相容。
And again, for exactly the same reason, the electrostatics looks to be inconsistent with special relativity.
但最终,并非如此,或者说,这还不是全部真相。
But ultimately, it's not, or ultimately, this is not the full story.
静电只是电磁学完整理论的一个特例,这个完整理论就是麦克斯韦方程组,它不仅包含电力,还包含了磁力。
Electrostatic is just one limit of the true theory of electromagnetism, which is Maxwell's laws, that has not just electric forces, it also has magnetic forces.
只有当所有东西都静止不动时,电力才会完全呈现这种形式。
And the electric forces only look exactly like this when nothing is moving.
一旦物体开始运动,就会出现一些额外的修正,这些修正共同作用,让静电定律完全符合狭义相对论。
When things do start to move, there are additional corrections to this, all of which conspire to make the electrostatic force law fully consistent with special relativity.
事实上,历史上对这个问题的理解路径恰恰是相反的。
In fact, the direction the historical direction of understanding ran the opposite way.
首先,十九世纪中期的麦克斯韦写下了麦克斯韦方程组,后来人们才意识到,这些方程本身就完全符合‘任何东西都不能超光速’这一原则,这种一致性体现在一种叫做洛伦兹对称性的性质上,而这一点是在方程写成很久之后才被发现的,最终引导爱因斯坦提出了狭义相对论。
First of all, you have Maxwell in the middle of the nineteenth century writing down Maxwell's equations, and only later do people notice, hey, Maxwell's equations actually are fully consistent with nothing can go in faster than the speed of light, and that consistency is reflected in a symmetry called the Lorentz symmetry of the Maxwell's field equations, only noticed later after they were written down that eventually led Einstein to formulate his special theory of relativity.
所以我们已经有了一个先例:从一个平方反比定律出发,逐步扩展成一个完全相对论不变的理论。
So we have a precedent for starting with an inverse square law and then dressing it up in a full relativistically invariant theory.
因此你可能会想,那我们干脆也对引力做同样的处理,就像当初改造静电学那样,构建一个引力磁学理论,让牛顿定律变成一个在狭义相对论框架下成立的近似。
And so you might say, well, let's just take gravity and do exactly the same thing to gravity that we did to the electrostatics in order to make some gravitomagnetic theory that makes, Newton's second law a approximation that's ultimately consistent with, the special relativity.
从某种宏观的角度来看,这正是我们最终要走的路。
And in some grand sense, that is what we're going to end up doing.
这正是爱因斯坦最终所走的路。
That is what Einstein's going to end up doing.
但这次的改动会比对静电学的麦克斯韦推广彻底得多。
But it's going to be a much more radical departure than the Maxwell generalization of electrostatics.
这里其实有两个线索,都藏在这个公式里,说明我们得对引力采取和静电学不一样的做法。
And there's really two hints, both of which are visible in this formula, that we're going have to do something slightly different than we did for electrostatics.
首先要注意的是,静电定律和牛顿万有引力定律之间的一个关键区别,就是符号的不同。
The first thing to notice, the diff the first difference between the electrostatic, law and Newton's law of gravity, is this sign difference.
这里有个明显的差别:引力公式里是负号,而静电公式里是正号。
There is a big difference, which is that here it is a minus sign, and here it is a plus sign.
这反映在现实里:比如地球和太阳,两个正质量之间是相互吸引的。
That is reflected in the fact that if you have two positive mass, you know, the Earth and the Sun, they gravitationally attract each other.
反过来,两个同种电荷会相互排斥,这就是静电公式里用正号、引力公式里用负号的原因。
Conversely, if you have two like charges, they electrostatically repel each other, which is why that's a minus sign and that's a plus sign.
这意味着,你不能直接把电磁学的那一套照搬到引力上。
That means that you cannot do literally the same thing for gravity that you did for electromagnetism.
否则,如果你照搬同样的数学操作,结果就会是同种质量相互排斥,而不是吸引。
Because otherwise, if you did mathematically the same trick, you'd end up with mathematically the same result, which is that you would find that like masses would repel rather than attract.
我们先不跑得太快,但归根结底,这是因为静电作用是由自旋为一的粒子——光子——传递的,而引力则是由自旋为二的粒子传递的。
Not to get ahead of ourselves, but ultimately, that's because electrostatics is mediated by a spin one particle, the photon, and gravity is gonna be mediated by a spin two particle.
这正是导致那个符号变化的原因。
And that's, that's responsible for the change in change in that sign there.
明白了。
Okay.
所以你不能完全照搬静电学的做法。
So that's why you can't do exactly the same thing as electrostatics.
因此,爱因斯坦不得不另寻他法。
And so Einstein had to look for something else.
他得找一种新的方式,把这套理论推广成相对论不变的形式。
He had to look for some other way to try and lift this to a relativistically invariant theory.
在这个过程中,他抓住了一个关键线索,当然,当时涉及的内容非常多。
And in doing that, he had one clue, and, you know, there's lots of stuff going on.
爱因斯坦的过人之处,就在于他能意识到这个线索意义重大,决定该往哪里走,这甚至被称作他最精彩的想法,他自己也这么说过。
It's parts of Einstein's central genius to focus on this as a highly significant clue of where he should look, sometimes described as his his most beautiful thought, as as how he would describe it.
线索就在这里。
And the clue is this.
引力定律和静电学之间还有另一个区别,那就是在静电学和引力中扮演电荷角色的那个物理量。
There is another difference between the gravitational, force law and the electrostatics, and that is this object that plays the role of the charge, the analog of the charge in electrostatics and gravity.
这个量其实就是物体的质量。
And it's the fact that it's the mass sitting here.
这在牛顿力学里看起来像是个奇怪的巧合。
And that's like a a, strange coincidence from from Newtonian physics.
在静电作用力和加速度中,质量扮演的完全是同一个角色。
So mass in electrostatics force forces and accelerations plays exactly one role.
它就在这里起作用。
It's sitting here.
它是物体的惯性,是抵抗加速度的那部分。
It's inertia of the object, and it's what is resisting being accelerated.
所以这个质量有时被称为惯性质量。
So this is sometimes called the inertial mass that's sitting here.
而电荷则完全不同,和质量毫无关系。
And then the charge is completely different and unrelated to the mass.
你可能会有质量很大但不带电的物体,比如中子。
You can have heavy objects that have no charge, like the neutron.
你也可能有质量很小却带强电荷的粒子,比如电子。
You can have light objects, like the electron, that have high charge.
粒子的电荷和它的质量之间没有任何必然联系。
There is no relation, necessary relation, between the charge of a particle and its mass.
它们完全是两码事。
They're they're just two entirely separate things.
但在引力中就不是这样了。
Not true in gravity.
在引力中,牛顿第二定律里那个抵抗加速度的惯性质量,正好等于牛顿引力定律里决定你被拉多强的那个质量。
In gravity, this mass that's sitting here in Newton's second law, the inertial mass that's resisting the, resisting the force, is exactly equal to the mass that's sitting here in Newton's gravitational law that's telling you how much you're pulled along.
它们是同一个质量。
It's the same mass.
所以这有时被称为引力质量。
So this is sometimes called the gravitational mass.
这有时被称为惯性质量。
This is sometimes called the inertial mass.
因此,与静电学不同,公式中的引力质量恰好等于另一个公式中的惯性质量。
And so unlike in electrostatics, the gravitational mass that appears in this formula is equal to what's sometimes called the inertial mass that sits in this formula.
这个等式在牛顿力学中早就成立。
This equation is already true in Newtonian physics.
牛顿其实注意到了这一点,还做了不少实验,证实这个等式在千分之一的精度内是成立的。
Newton noticed it, in fact, and did a number of experiments to confirm that this was true to one part in a thousand or so.
到了爱因斯坦时代,我们已经知道它在十亿分之一的精度内成立,而现在,我们确认它在千万亿分之一的精度内都成立。
By the time of Einstein, we knew it was true to one part in a billion, and now we know it's true to one part in 10 to the 15.
令人惊讶的是,在牛顿力学里,这两个质量相等纯粹是个巧合。
It's striking that these two that in Newtonian physics, it's just a complete coincidence, essentially, that those two are the same thing.
但实验却一再表明,它们确实是完全相同的。
Nevertheless, were observed to be exactly the same thing.
爱因斯坦注意到了这一点,并把它作为下一步研究的关键线索。
And this was Einstein's he honed in on this fact, and it was his his central his central clue for what to do next.
这有时被称为等效原理,它解释了为什么在真空环境中,羽毛和砖块同时下落时会同时落地。
This is sometimes called the equivalence principle, and it's responsible for the fact that if you take a a feather and a brick in a vacuum chamber and drop them both, they will both fall and hit the ground at the same time.
它们会同时落地,是因为虽然砖块受到的重力远大于羽毛,但砖块更大的惯性正好抵消了这一点,所以两者下落的加速度完全相同。
They'll fall and hit the ground at the same time because even though the force on the brick is much stronger than the force on the feather, because it's heavier, that exactly cancels out the fact that the resistance to force on the brick is larger than the resistance to acceleration of a feather, and they exactly fall at the same rate.
正是这两种质量的相等,才导致了这种精确的同步下落。
So the equality of those two is responsible for that exact equality.
明白了。
Okay.
爱因斯坦的高明之处,在于他抓住了这一点,作为重构牛顿定律的核心突破口。
So Einstein's genius was to hone in on this as a central clue for how he is going to end up replacing Newton's law.
而它之所以是关键线索,是因为还存在另一类力——不是电磁力或引力那样的基本力,而是一些涌现出来的力,它们的理论本身就天然包含了这一特性。
And a reason it's a central clue is because there is, in fact, another class of forces, not fundamental forces like electromagnetism and gravity, but a set of emergent forces that exactly have this property baked into them, that's guaranteed in those theories.
为了说明这一点,我们现在转入这一讨论的实验部分。
And to explain that, we're now going to move over to the experimental section of this discussion.
这有一个桶。
So here's a bucket.
桶里装满了水。
Here's some water filling the bucket.
你可得懂点物理啊,亚当。
You better know your physics, Adam.
不然这工作室可就毁了。
Otherwise, it'll destroy the studio.
没花招。
No tricks.
你把手伸进去摸摸,确认一下是不是湿的?
Will you will you put your finger in that and confirm that it's it's wet?
好。
Okay.
这就是那个桶。
So here is the bucket.
在底部,水没洒出来根本没什么神秘的。
At the bottom, no no mystery why the water is not falling out of the bucket.
水没洒出来,是因为重力的方向是朝下,指向桶底。
It's not falling out because the point force of gravity, as we'd understand it, is pointing down to the bottom of the bucket.
但现在我们要加快速度,来个转圈。
But now what we're gonna do is go a little bit faster and loop the loop.
现在你可能会觉得有点意外——就算桶倒过来了,水也不会掉出来。
And now there is what you might find superficially surprising, which is that the water doesn't fall out of the bucket even when the bucket is upside down.
这背后其实有两种解释方式。
And there are two ways to understand that.
第一种很直接:你会想,当桶转到最高点时,水本来是想往外掉的。
One way is just the straightforward way, which is that you would say, you know, the water wants to fall out of the bucket when it's, at the top of its arc.
但等水真要加速掉出来的时候,桶已经移动到下面去了,水根本没时间掉出来,就像宇航员不会掉到地球上一样。
But by the time it's got itself together to accelerate enough to fall out of the bucket, the bucket's moved on and is is now, below, and it it just didn't have time to fall out of the bucket, you know, or or you might say the same reason that that astronauts don't end up falling to Earth.
还有一种更深层的视角。
There is a second perspective.
第二种视角,同样站得住脚,就是想象你自己正和桶里的水一起运动。
The second perspective, which is an equally valid perspective, is imagining that you're riding along with the water in the bucket.
从这个角度看,水不会洒出来另有原因——离心力。对于和桶一起移动的人来说,会感觉到一股力把人推向桶底。
And from that point of view, there's another explanation for why the water doesn't fall out of the bucket, and that is the centrifugal force, that from the perspective of somebody moving along with a bucket, there is a force pushing them towards the bottom of the bucket.
这股力被称为离心力。
And that force is known as the centrifugal force.
它属于一种虚构的或惯性力。
And it's what's known as a fictitious or inertial force.
离心力的本质是,当你处于旋转参考系中时,会因为你的速度和绕行半径产生一个向外的力,方向是径向向外的。
And the centrifugal force just says that there is a force caused by being in a rotating reference frame, given by your speed, divided by radius of the circle you're going around in, pointing outwards, positively outwards.
所以,正是这股离心力让你紧贴在桶底,或者在汽车转弯时把你压在车门上。
And so this is the centrifugal force that pins you to bottom of the bucket or pins you to the outside of the car as you go around a bend.
那么,我们注意到什么了?
And, okay, what do we notice?
我们发现,你在离心力作用下的感受强度——换句话说,你感受到的离心力大小——和重力一样,取决于你的质量,这和静电作用完全不同。
What we notice is that your charge under the centrifugal force, if you will, how intensely you feel a centrifugal force, is once again, just like with gravity but unlike with electrostatics, given by your mass.
决定你感受到多少离心力的,正是你的惯性质量。
The mass of centrifugal force that tells you how much centrifugal force you get is given by your inertial mass.
但这里根本没什么神秘的,为什么右边这个质量就是惯性质量,原因很清楚。
But, of course, here is absolutely no mystery whatsoever why the mass that's sitting here on the right hand side is given by your inertial mass.
你之所以感受到这个力,正是因为物体有保持直线运动的倾向,而你实际上在做圆周运动,正是这种惯性倾向,才导致了你感受到的力。
It is given by your inertial mass precisely because it is the tendency the reason you're experiencing this force is precisely the tendency of masses to wish to move along straight lines, and the fact that you're not moving along straight line, you're moving in a circle, it is precisely that inertial tendency that causes the mass to begin with.
换个说法,只要是由于惯性产生的这种虚拟力,它的作用强度必然由惯性质量决定。
Another way to say it is for any time you have one of these inertial forces just caused by your inertia, it is guaranteed to be the case that the charge under that force is given by the inertial mass.
所以,所有惯性力的作用量都正比于惯性质量。
So inertial forces always have a charge given by the inertial mass.
引力也有一个‘作用量’。
Gravity has a charge.
引力的这个‘作用量’,正是由惯性质量决定的。
The charge of gravity is given by the inertial mass.
于是,爱因斯坦由此跳出了关键一步。
So Einstein leapt.
会不会呢?这是他的核心想法——引力本身会不会就是一种惯性力?
Could it be the case, and this was his central idea, could it be the case that gravity itself is an inertial force?
这是可能的,因为引力质量等于惯性质量。
That's permitted because the gravitational mass is equal to the inertial mass.
但对电磁力来说就完全不可能了,因为那会要求电磁荷等于惯性质量,而电磁力根本不是这样。
It would be totally impossible, straightforwardly, for something like electromagnetism because it would require that the electromagnetic charge was equal to the inertial mass, which is just simply false for electromagnetism.
爱因斯坦问,引力会不会真的就是这样?
Could it be the case, Einstein asked, that it that it's true for gravity?
如果这个事实成立,那就能解释为什么这个现象不是牛顿力学里那种偶然的巧合,而是世界运作的必然规律。
If permitted by this fact, it would also explain this fact as now not an accidental truth like in Newtonian laws, but a necessary fact about the world.
这就是爱因斯坦在1907年提出的核心思想,也是他最精彩的想法。
So this was this was Einstein's central, central idea in nineteen o seven, his most beautiful thought.
但听起来简直荒谬至极。
But it sounds totally crazy.
之所以觉得荒谬,是因为它要求我们重新理解什么是‘直线’。
And it sounds totally crazy because it requires us to be wrong about what straight lines are.
这是一个非常激进的观点,原因我马上就会说明。
It is an extremely radical proposition for the reason that I will describe right now.
惯性力,比如离心力、科里奥利力,或者我们熟悉的其他那些力,都是当你没有沿直线运动时才会感受到的力。
Inertial forces, like the centrifugal force or the Coriolis force or any of these other ones that we're familiar with, inertial forces are forces you experience when you are not moving on a straight line.
当你沿直线运动时,根本不会感受到任何力。
When you are moving on a straight line, you don't experience any forces.
你不会感受到任何惯性力。
You don't experience inertial forces.
所以,如果这个说法成立,我们就得承认,那些在太空中自由漂浮、自由下落的宇航员,其实是在沿直线运动。
So in order for this to be true, we'd have to say that astronauts who are free floating and free falling are moving along a straight line.
而你呢,明明只是坐在那里,看似静止不动,却感受到重力把你压在椅子上,我们就得说,你其实并没有沿直线运动。
We'd have to say that you, who is just sitting there seemingly not moving, who is experiencing the force of gravity pushing you into your chair, we'd have to say that you're not moving along a straight line.
所以我们得承认,自己对谁在沿直线运动、谁不在沿直线运动的理解,完全搞错了。
So we'd have to be pretty wrong about who's moving along a straight line and who's not moving along a straight line.
在接触了Jane Street的那些人之后,我发现很多人都是物理背景出身。
As I've gotten to know the folks at Jane Street, I've noticed that a lot of them have physics backgrounds.
我最近有机会跟杰德·汤普森聊了聊,他以前是粒子物理学家,后来转行做交易员,我问他物理学训练是怎么帮到他在简街工作的。
I recently got a chance to talk to Jed Thompson, who was a particle physicist before he was a trader, about how his physics training helps him with his work at Jane Street.
我觉得很少有简街的交易员或研究员进来时是懂金融或有交易经验的。
I think very few Jane Street traders or researchers come in with any, finance background or any trading background.
我以前做物理的时候,经常说,我几乎从不做计算,除非心里已经对答案有个大概的预判。
When I used to be in physics, something that I would say is I almost never do a calculation without already having a pretty good guess at the answer.
在交易里,我觉得也是一样。
In trading, I think the same is true.
这些东西本质上都是对世界运行方式的模型。
These things are fundamentally models for how the world is behaving.
你通过反复观察模式,慢慢就能培养出直觉,以至于从一开始就能问出正确的问题,省掉大量不必要的工作。
You can build good intuition by seeing patterns over and over again and come to a point where you're mostly asking the right question from the beginning, which short circuits a lot of the work.
所以,哪怕你没有金融背景,甚至没有物理背景,也还是值得考虑申请一下。
So even if you don't have a finance background or for that matter, a physics background, you should still consider applying.
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Go to janestreet.com/tourcash to learn more.
这其实是个很颠覆的想法,因为它要求我们重新理解什么是直线。
So this is a radical idea because it requires us to be wrong about what a straight line is.
特别是你,就坐在这里,这是你相对于地球中心的高度随时间的变化。
In particular, you sitting here, just sitting in your chair, here is your height above the center of the Earth as a function of time.
而德瓦尔克什就坐在这儿,高度保持不变。
And here is Dwarkesh just sitting here at constant height.
因为你感受到重力的作用,如果重力是一种惯性力,而你又被往下拉,那就说明你其实并不是在走直线。
Because you are experiencing the force of gravity, if gravity is an inertial force, because you're a force down, that means that you have to be moving along a not straight line.
所以你就是这样。
So that's you.
相比之下,这根粉笔上下运动的轨迹,大致符合一条抛物线。
By contrast, this piece of chalk, as it goes up and down, executes something that's well approximated by a parabola.
粉笔在上下运动。
There is the chalk up and down.
粉笔在被我接住之前一直处于自由落体状态,如果重力是一种惯性力,那它的轨迹就一定是直线。
The chalk, you know, is in freefall until I catch it, which means that if gravity is an inertial force, this has to be straight.
当然,按我这么画出来,这条线看着是直的,那条却不是。
Now certainly the way I've plotted it, this looks straight and that one does not.
所以如果引力是一种惯性力,那我们就一定是对‘什么是直线’这件事搞错了。
So if gravity is to be an inertial force, we have to be confused, wrong about what is a straight line and what is not a straight line.
不过,这种情况其实你并不陌生——只要你坐过飞机,看过前面的屏幕。
However, this is actually a situation to which you should be familiar if you sat in an airplane seat and looked at the screen in front of you.
想象一下飞机上你看到的地图。
If you imagine the map that you see on a airplane.
想象你正从旧金山飞往伦敦。
Imagine you are flying from San Francisco to London.
我画画不太行,地球画得不好,但这是我的版本。
Now, I'm not not good at drawing, the Earth, but here here is my version of it.
我们在这儿,旧金山。
Here we are, in San Francisco.
格陵兰岛从北极那边伸过来。
Here is Greenland coming in from the North Pole.
这里是英格兰。
And here is England.
这里是伦敦。
Here's London.
我能看出来你是物理学家,因为你的大陆轮廓画得太理想化了。
I can tell you're a physicist because of the very idealized forms of the continents.
坐在飞机后排的时候,你可能会觉得挺烦的,因为明明飞机应该沿着两点之间的最短路线直飞才对。
And, you know, sometimes it can be quite frustrating sitting there in the back seat of the airplane because, you know, obviously, the plane should be flying, like this, moving along the shortest distance from one place to another.
可实际上,飞机却绕了个大弯,飞过格陵兰再往下走。
But instead, they take this massive detour, that clips Greenland and heads on down.
你知道,事实根本不是这么回事。
You know that, in fact, that's not what's going on.
你知道,尽管屏幕上看起来是条直线,其实根本不是。
You know that, in fact, despite what it looks like on the graph, this is not a straight line.
这种有时被称为‘航线’的路径,并不是直线,也绝对不是从旧金山到伦敦的最短路线。
This this run line that's sometimes called is not straight and would certainly not be the shortest path from San Francisco to London.
而实际上,这几乎就是一条直线。
And this is in fact, to good approximation, a straight line.
所以,从旧金山到伦敦的直线确实会经过格陵兰,我现在就来演示一下。
So, in fact, the straight line from San Francisco to London does indeed go over Greenland, as I will now demonstrate.
这是旧金山。
So here is San Francisco.
这是伦敦。
Here is London.
你可以看到,从一地直接连到另一地的直线会穿过格陵兰,然后抵达伦敦。
And you can see that the straight line that goes straight from one to the other would go in this direction over Greenland, and hit London.
在这个地图上很明显,因为这张图真实反映了地球的曲率。
That's obvious on this map because this map obviously reflects the curvature of the Earth.
这张地图让人困惑,是因为它假装地球是平的。
This map is getting confused, and it's getting confused because it's trying to pretend that the Earth is flat.
它试图忽略地球的曲率,既然要把一个球面强行展平,必然会产生变形。
It is trying to ignore the curvature of the Earth, and because it's trying to map a round Earth onto a flat panel, there has to be distortions.
每当你试图把弯曲的东西当成平的,就一定会搞错什么才是真正的直线。
And whenever you try and take something that is curved and pretend it's not curved, you will inevitably being end up being wrong about what is and is not a straight line.
在地球上,这条先上升再下降的线,其实才是直线。
You see this on the Earth, where this line that goes up and then comes down is in fact the straight line.
在广义相对论里的时空里也一样,粉笔被抛上去时画出的抛物线,其实是自由落体,也就是广义相对论中的直线。
You see it also in spacetime with General relativity, where this parabolic arc of the chalk as it's thrown up, it is in freefall, it is the straight line in General relativity.
就像广义相对论说的,你之所以分不清什么是直、什么是弯,是因为你用这张图假装自己处在平直的时空里,而实际上,你处在弯曲的时空之中。
And just like in General relativity, the reason you are confused about what's straight and what's not straight is that you are trying to pretend with this graph that you are in a flat spacetime, and in fact, you are in a curved spacetime.
在爱因斯坦的理论里,物质的作用就是让时空弯曲。
So in Einstein's theory, the effect of matter is going to be to curve spacetime.
通过弯曲时空,它改变了什么才算直线、什么不算直线。
And through curving spacetime, it's going to change what's a straight line and what's not a straight line.
那些误以为自己走的是直线的人,会感受到引力;而宇航员却感受不到引力。
And then people who are going along, what they incorrectly think of as straight lines are going to experience the gravitational force, whereas astronauts are going to not experience the gravitational force.
这里唯一缺的,就是用数学来精确描述时空是如何弯曲的。
The only missing piece here is to mathematically characterize the way in which spacetime is curved.
你知道在牛顿物理学里,牛顿力是由质量的存在引起的。
You know that in Newtonian physics, the Newtonian force is caused by the presence of mass.
而在爱因斯坦的广义相对论中,真正由质量引发的是时空的弯曲。
In Einstein's general theory of relativity, it will be the curvature of spacetime that is caused by the mass.
从1907年他大致勾勒出这个想法,到1915年最终完善广义相对论,他整整花了八年时间反复推敲。
And he struggled for eight years between 1907, when he had this picture approximately mapped out, and 1915, when he wrote down in its finished form his General Theory of Relativity.
这八年最终的成果,就是他那条著名的公式——我不会展开解释,但会写出来,它完美地体现了他的直觉。
And the final output of that eight years was his famous formula, that I will not explain but will write down, that exactly captures his intuition.
接下来,我会带你一步步理解这个公式。
And I will walk you through this formula.
这真是一条优美的公式。
And so this is just a beautiful formula.
左边这一部分,是一些东欧数学家发明的数学工具,用来描述时空的弯曲程度。
And the left hand side is, some mathematics invented by some Eastern Europeans that characterizes the curvature of spacetime.
它精确地告诉我们时空弯曲了多少。
This says how much spacetime is curved.
这是一个张量,如果时空是平的,这个张量就为零。
This is some some tensor, and the tensor will be zero if spacetime were flat.
当时空不是平的,而是以某种方式弯曲时,它就不为零。
And it's nonzero when spacetime is is is not flat, is curved in a particular way.
等号右边已经不是时空了。
On the right hand side is not spacetime anymore.
等号右边是物质。
On the right hand side is matter.
右边还有一些常数,比如我们熟悉的老朋友牛顿常数、圆周率π,还有更早的光速。
There's some constants, just our old friend Newton's constant, pi, an even older friend, and the speed of light.
然后就是这个量,Tμν。
And, and then this quantity, t mu nu.
Tμν就像是牛顿力方程右边质量的相对论推广。
T mu nu is like a relativistic generalization of of the mass, that sits on the the right hand side of Newton's, force equation.
所以它表达的是:质量的存在——实际上不只是质量,而是所有形式的质量和能量——在右边导致了左边时空的弯曲,简单说就是:物质告诉时空如何弯曲。
And so it is saying that the presence of mass, and in fact, not just mass, but all forms of of mass and energy, on the right hand side, causes the curvature of spacetime on the left hand side, or in a slogan, matter tells spacetime how to curve.
而一旦物质告诉了时空如何弯曲,时空的弯曲又会告诉物质该如何运动——这是这句口号的后半部分:时空的弯曲会让物质沿着弯曲空间中的测地线运动,如果你硬要假装时空是平的,就会感受到一些虚构的力。
And then once matter's told spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells matter how to move, in the second half of the slogan, where the curvature of the spacetime tells matter to move along straight lines of the curved space and so experience fictitious forces if you try and pretend that spacetime is flat.
这就是爱因斯坦广义相对论的精髓。
And that is Einstein's general theory of relativity in a nutshell.
我们退一步说。
Backing up.
牛顿引力最了不起的地方在于,他凭空创造了这套理论——据说灵感来自苹果从树上掉下来的思考实验,但这套理论不仅能解释苹果落地,还能描述天体的运动。
Like, an amazing thing about Newtonian gravity is that he invented it, you know, allegedly due to some thought experiment to do with an apple falling off a tree, and it describes not only an apple falling off a tree, but the motion of the objects in the heavens.
它居然能同时解释行星运行和苹果落地,这种跨越尺度的统一太惊人了。
Like, that's it's, like, massive crosshit like that, that it describes planetary motion and also an apple falling off a tree.
牛顿的伟大之处就在于,他把天上的运动和地上的运动统一起来了,用同一种规律解释了两者。
And this was, like, this amazing thing that Newton, like, unified the heavens and the earths and, like, you know, had it had one form or another applied to both.
广义相对论不仅继承了这一切,还更进一步。
General relativity does all of that and goes one step further.
它同样能描述苹果从树上掉下来的运动。
It describes the motion of apples falling off trees.
它不仅能描述水星和太阳系行星的运动,还能解释整个宇宙的膨胀。
It describes the motion of Mercury and the planets in the solar system, and it describes the expansion of the entire universe.
这简直太惊人了,跨越了无数个数量级,把这么多现象全都统一起来了。
That's like a crazy, you know, huge numbers of order orders of magnitude hit that does that darts all of those.
你刚才提到,这个理论最精彩的地方在于,它的适用范围远远超出了爱因斯坦当初提出它时想要解释的那些现象,比如黑洞就是其中一个明显的例子。
You were saying a moment ago, one of the beautiful things about this theory is that it has reach, in all these interesting ways that was not originally anticipated to solve this original observation that Einstein had, and one of them obviously is the black hole.
我很想听听更深入的解释,不只是高中课本里说的‘光进去了就出不来’,而是想真正理解黑洞为什么会有这样的特性。
So I would love to get more insight than the the high school version of light falls into it and can't get out of why black holes work the way they do.
是的。
Yeah.
黑洞是广义相对论中最引人入胜的天体,也是牛顿力学里完全不存在的典型对象。
So black holes are fascinating objects in general relativity, and really the quintessential object in general relativity that doesn't really exist in the same way in Newtonian physics.
这个故事还挺离奇的。
And the story is kind of wild.
爱因斯坦写下了他的场方程,就是我们刚才在黑板上写的那个,描述了时空弯曲和系统中能量之间的关系。
Einstein wrote down his field equations, the field equations we wrote on the board, describing the relationship between curvature and the amount of energy in the system.
他觉得这些方程太复杂了,根本没人能解出精确解。
And he thought that those equations are so complicated, no one would ever come up with exact solutions to them.
我们只能一直靠近似来处理。
And we'd just always be having to do approximations.
但事实并非如此——施瓦西是一名一战时期的普鲁士炮兵军官,他在计算炮弹弹道的间隙,居然在爱因斯坦发表方程后短短几个月内,就找到了精确解。
And that turned out not to be correct, that Schwarzschild, who was a Prussian artillery officer in the First World War, in between calculating the trajectories of artillery that they were lobbing over in the direction of their enemy, he figured out that Einstein's equations much immediately after Einstein had written them down within a matter of months, in fact, have an exact solution.
这个精确解现在被称为施瓦西解,我们如今知道,它描述的就是黑洞。
An exact solution, a solution now known as the short shelled equation, and that we now understand describes a black hole.
这是一个没有物质的解,除了可能在正中心有一个我们不详细描述的奇点,它描述的是周围时空的形态。
It is a solution in which there is no matter, except possibly at the very, very center in a way we will not not describe, is a central point like, amount of matter, and it describes what the spacetime around that looks like.
这叫施瓦西解,描述的就是一个黑洞。
It's called the Schwarzschild solution, and it describes a black hole.
那时候人们还不叫它黑洞。
They were not called a black hole at the time.
事实上,当时没人明白这个解到底意味着什么。
In fact, people were extremely confused about what this solution even meant.
几十年里,人们一直误解了这个解的真正含义。
People wrote down wrong things for about half a century about what this meant.
最典型的错误理解来自爱因斯坦本人,他对这个概念极其困惑,尤其是对所谓的事件视界,还曾错误地认为物体可能会从事件视界上弹开。
And perhaps the worst offender was was Einstein, who got extremely confused about it, particularly confused about what I will describe as the event horizon and and said wrote all sorts of wrong things about how objects would maybe bounce off the event horizon.
从现代的角度看,那种想法完全说不通。
Just totally confused from a modern perspective.
其实,要理解黑洞的本质非常简单。
It's extremely simple to understand what's going on.
让我来告诉你,黑洞到底是什么。
So let me tell you what a black hole is.
广义相对论的核心,其实是引力和光速有限之间的相互作用。
General relativity, as we set it up, is about the collision between gravity and the finite speed of light.
早在没有狭义相对论的18世纪,人们就已经注意到了最简单的这种情形。
And the simplest collision you could do was actually noticed by people even in the eighteenth century before we had special relativity or anything like that.
他们只是问了一个很简单的问题:如果你想把东西从地球上发射出去,你得给它多大的速度才行,也就是逃逸速度。
And they just asked a very simple question: If you want to shoot something off the Earth, you know you need to shoot it with a certain velocity, the escape velocity.
如果你想让物体彻底逃离地球,就必须把它射得足够快,让它的动能等于地球表面的引力结合能。
You need to shoot it fast enough if you want to escape far away from the Earth so that the kinetic energy of the object you're shooting is equal to the gravitational binding energy of the Earth's surface.
M 是地球的质量,r 是地球的半径。
M is the mass of the Earth and r is the surface of the Earth.
对于地球来说,这个逃逸速度大约是每秒11公里。
And for Earth, that turns out it's about 11 kilometers per second to see escape velocity.
但对于质量更大或更致密的天体,逃逸速度会更高。
But for objects that are heavier or more compact, the escape velocity is larger.
比如木星,逃逸速度能达到每秒几百公里。
So for example, Jupiter would be hundreds of kilometers a second.
你需要把物体从地球表面发射出去。
You need to shoot it off the Earth.
你可以想象,有些天体质量极大、体积极小,以至于逃逸速度会达到光速。
And you can imagine objects that are so heavy or so compact that, in fact, the escape velocity becomes equal to the speed of light.
于是人们曾经随便想过,如果真这样,会发生什么。
And so people idly wondered what would happen then.
当时他们没有足够的工具来研究这个问题,但十八世纪的人已经开始猜测会怎样了。
They didn't have the tools to address it, but in eighteenth century, they wondered what would happen.
你可以算出这个临界速度的值。
And you can calculate what the critical value of velocity is.
只要把速度设为光速,就能得出一个临界半径,公式是两倍的G乘以质量,再除以光速的平方,质量本身会被约掉。
And just putting the velocity equal to the speed of light, this gives a critical radius of two gm, the mass of the object cancels, divided by c squared.
这暗示着,如果一个物体足够致密,质量也达到这个水平,它的逃逸速度就会等于光速。
And so that's sort of somewhat suggestive that if you had an object that was this compact and had this mass, the escape velocity would be given by c, the speed of light.
你提到的这个联系,其实是牛顿力学框架下的。
The connection you're pointing out is a Newtonian one.
以前有人提出过这个观点吗?
Did anybody make this connection before?
十八世纪末,有人写下了这个公式。
So people in the late eighteenth century wrote this formula down.
我觉得米歇尔和拉普拉斯在十八世纪就都想到过这一点。
I think both Mitchell and Laplace had this in the eighteenth century.
他们认为,如果有一个物体质量这么大、密度这么高,光就根本逃不出来。
And they said that if you had a an object that there was that was that massive and and compact, light would not be able to escape.
按现代标准来看,这种推理并不算特别有说服力,但奇怪的是,结论居然完全正确,甚至连那个因子2都对得上——尽管这纯粹是巧合。
That reasoning is not particularly compelling by modern standards, but it does turn out to be, exactly correct, even including, crazily, this factor of two is even even correct for a complete completely coincidental reasons.
让我给你一个更有说服力的解释,说明为什么在这一半径附近会发生些不寻常的事。
Let me give you a more compelling more compelling argument than that, that something funny is gonna happen around this around this radius.
为了说明这一点,我们来想想怎么通过把物体慢慢靠近中心质量来提取能量。
And to do that, let's think about trying to extract energy from objects by lowering the objects down towards a central mass.
那我们先从地球开始吧。
So let's start off perhaps with the Earth.
这就是地球。
Here it is.
我们从离地球很远的地方,放一块质量为 m 的砖块。
And we're going to start off a long way away from the Earth with a brick, a brick of mass m.
然后我会把这块砖连到一个滑轮系统上。
And I'm gonna take this this, brick, and attach it to a pulley system.
然后我会慢慢把砖块降到地球表面,让它以零速度轻轻落在地上。
And then I'm gonna slowly lower the brick down towards the surface of the Earth and deposit it with zero velocity, on the surface of the Earth down there.
这样做的话,我就能从砖块中提取出能量。
And doing so, I can extract energy from the brick.
我之所以能提取能量,是因为有引力在把砖块往下拉。
I've extracted energy from the brick because there's a force pulling the brick down.
这个力在一段距离上持续作用,就产生了能量。
That force, I'm doing for a certain distance, and that gives you an energy.
在牛顿力学里,我们很清楚能从砖块中提取多少能量。
And we know, at least in Newtonian physics, what the formula for the amount of energy you can extract from the brick is.
能提取的能量等于重力常数乘以地球质量,再乘以砖块质量,除以r——也就是到地心的距离。
The amount of energy you can extract from the brick is g times the mass of the earth, times the mass of the brick, divided by r, the radius of weight.
这是一种与距离成反比的能量关系,不是平方反比。
So it's an energy on force, it's an inverse r, distance law, not an inverse square distance law.
这就是把砖块降到距离地球r远的地方时,能从中提取出的能量。
That's the energy you can extract from the brick by lowering it down to a distance r away from the Earth.
当然,如果你试着把它降到地球表面以下,这个公式就不适用了,不过我们还是先把它放在地表上。
And of course, if you try and lower it beyond the surface of the Earth, this formula changes, But let's just put it on the surface of the Earth.
所以,你看,我在这儿很远的地方,从砖块里提取了这么多能量。
And so, you know, this is the amount of energy I've got, out here a long way away, and have extracted from the brick.
你可以问,我提取的能量占了砖块静止质量能量的多少比例?
You can ask, what fraction of the rest mass energy of the brick have I extracted?
这个问题,只有在你发明了狭义相对论、知道静止质量能量是 m c 平方之后,才会自然地提出来。
This is a question that you would only naturally ask once you've invented special relativity and know that the rest mass energy is given by m c squared.
因此,至少在这个近似下,我们可以直接算出,提取的能量占初始静止质量能量的比例是多少。
And so we can we can straightforwardly calculate, at least in this approximation, that the fraction of the energy that you've extracted is is that divided by the rest mass energy you started with.
砖块的质量当然会抵消掉,但地球的质量不会。
The mass of the brick, of course, is going to cancel, but not the mass of the Earth.
这个比例等于重力加速度乘以地球质量,再除以光速平方乘以地球半径。
And this is going to be given by g times the mass of the Earth divided by c squared times the radius, away from the Earth at which you stop the radius of the Earth.
所以,你知道我到底提取了多少比例的能量吗?
So how much I you know, what fraction have I got out of it?
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如果你把物体降到地球表面,那实际上你从砖块里提取的能量并不多。
If you lower down to the Earth's surface, then the answer is you haven't really extracted that much from the brick.
你在远处做功时,只提取了砖块原始静止质量能量的七乘以十的负十次方。
You you've extracted a fraction seven times 10 to the minus 10 of the original rest mass energy of the brick, doing doing useful work a long way away.
有意思的是,先说第一个观察结果。
Interestingly well, first observation.
这个数值很小。
This is small.
换句话说,在自然单位下,地球表面物体的引力结合能非常微弱。
In other words, the gravitational binding energy of something on the Earth's surface is quite small in natural units.
这就是为什么我们直到做了极其精密的实验,才在地球表面察觉到广义相对论的影响——因为广义相对论在某种意义上是对这个数值的泰勒展开,一阶项就是牛顿力学,更高阶的项才给出广义相对论对牛顿结果的修正。
And that's why we didn't really notice general relativity on the Earth's surface until we did very sensitive experiments, because general relativity is, in some sense, a Taylor expansion in this number, the relativistic effects, where the first order term is just Newtonian, and then the next order terms will give you the GR corrections to the Newtonian answer.
第二个观察点,这有点跑题,但第二个观察是,这个数值恰好非常接近火箭燃料的化学结合能。
Observation number two, and this is something of a digression, but observation number two is that by essentially sheer coincidence, this number here is very close to the chemical binding energy of rocket fuel.
比如,取氧氢混合燃料,你燃烧它推动火箭所释放的化学能,除以氧和氢总质量对应的mc²,结果大约是1.5乘以十的负十次方。
So, if you take a rocket fuel like oxygen hydrogen mix, the chemical energy binding the rocket together, which is the energy that you're going to extract when you burn it to make your rocket go, divided by the mc2 of the oxygen and hydrogen you're going to mix together, is given by 1.5 times 10 to the minus 10.
第一个发现,这两个数值非常接近,尽管它们来自完全不同的计算。
First observation, these two are close to each other, even though they came from completely different calculations.
这是个与地球有关的引力计算。
This was a gravitational calculation that was something to do with the Earth.
而这个则是氢和氧的化学特性。
This is a chemical property of hydrogen and oxygen.
这个数值也很小。
This is also very small.
它这么小的原因是,氢和氧中的绝大部分能量并不储存在它们结合时的化学键能里。
The reason it's very small is that almost all of the energy in hydrogen and oxygen is not stored in the chemical binding energy of these things going together.
绝大部分能量其实藏在质子和中子的静止质量里,而化学燃烧根本碰不到这部分。
The vast majority of it is stored in just the rest mass energy of the protons and the neutrons that chemistry burning doesn't affect at all.
第二大的能量份额来自质子和中子之间的核结合能,涉及强相互作用和弱相互作用,化学反应同样完全影响不到这些。
The second largest amount is stored in the nuclear binding energy of the protons and the neutrons to each other, giving away the strong force and the weak force, which, again, chemical reactions don't don't touch at all.
这个数值很小,是因为化学键的能量相比我们所讨论的物质的静止质量来说,实在太弱了。
This is a small number because chemistry is chemical bonds are very weak compared to the rest mass of the things we're considering.
这两个很小的数值几乎完全相等,所以我们能用化学火箭进入太空,但过程非常艰难。
These two small numbers are almost exactly equal to each other, which is why we can use chemical rockets to get to space, but it's hard.
特别是,这个数值比那个大几倍,这意味着用化学火箭送入太空时,有效载荷的比例极小——因为大部分燃料根本无法进入轨道。
In particular, this number is a few times bigger than this number, which means that almost all of the vast majority or payload fraction is quite small when trying to use chemical rockets to get to space because most of your your fuel cannot get to orbit.
你得承受火箭的效率损耗,也就是说,发射台上大部分的重量都得在抵达太空前烧掉,才能把一小部分火箭送上去。
You have to pay a rocket factor that's going tell you that most of your payload that's sitting there on the launch pad is going to have to be burnt up before you get to space in order to get a small fraction of the the the rocket up to space.
换句话说,我们能用化学火箭进入太空,但如果从太阳表面出发,这根本不可能,但即便如此,它依然很难。
In other words, we can use chemical rockets to get to space in a way that would be totally impossible if we try to do it from the surface of the sun, but it's hard.
明白了。
Okay.
这是在地球上的比例,但这个公式说明,如果天体质量更大、更致密,把物体下放到表面时能释放的能量比例也会更大。
That's the fraction on on the Earth, but this formula tells you that if you have an object that's that's heavier, or or more compact, the fraction of of energy that you extract by lowering the object down to the surface is going to be larger.
比如,如果把物体下放到太阳表面,而不是地球表面,这个比例就会大得多。
So, for example, if you lower it not down to the Earth's surface, but down to the sun's surface, this would be larger.
差不多大一百万倍,因为太阳的质量是地球的几百万倍,不过太阳体积也大,这又抵消了一部分。
Know, a million times larger because the sun is, you know, a few million times the mass of the Earth, but then it's also bigger, so that that takes it away a little bit.
最后你得到的是两乘以十的负六次方,这是太阳表面著名的红移值。
And you end up with two times 10 to the minus six, famous redshift from the sun's surface.
从这里开始,你可以进一步推演。
And you can escalate from there.
你可以想象把一个太阳质量的质量压缩到地球大小的半径里,这样公式的结果会更大。
You know, you can imagine cramming a sun like mass into a Earth like radius, to make this formula even bigger.
事实上,这差不多就是白矮星,比如天狼星B的真实情况——太阳质量,地球半径。
In fact, that's that's pretty much exactly what what, so, you know, sun mass, earth radius, which is about what happens in a white dwarf like like Sirius b.
这种情况下,数值还会更大。
This will get even bigger.
你从物体表面下落时能提取出的质量比例也会更高。
Again, a larger fraction of the mass of the object you'd be you'd be extracting by lowering it down to the surface.
但很明显,当物体质量太大、密度太高时,某种东西必须得崩溃才行。
But it really feels like something has to give before we make a object that is too mass, too massive, and too compact.
特别是,如果你看这个公式,当半径小于或等于引力常数乘质量除以光速平方时,会发生什么?
In particular, if you look at this formula, you know, what happens for r less than or equal to gm over c squared.
如果这个物体如此致密、质量如此之大,以至于它的半径小于质量除以光速的平方,那看起来你就能获得超过100%的能量,也就是提取的比例大于1。
If this object here was so compact and so heavy that it had a radius less than the mass of the object divided by c squared, it sure looks like you could get more than 100%, the fraction with bigger than one.
把这块砖降到这个物体表面时,你能回收的质能甚至超过它本身原有的全部质量。
You can get more than 100% of the mass of your brick back by lowering it down to the surface of this object.
这感觉不对劲。
And that feels wrong.
事实上,这比刚才说的情况还要离谱。
That feels, in fact, more wrong than what's going on here.
因为你现在在远处积累了大量能量,甚至可以用它再造出一块全新的砖。
Because now you've got all this energy a long way away, and you could perhaps use it to make a whole new brick.
你手上还有超过mc²的多余能量,再把这块砖降下去,这就像是凭空造出了大量能量,而之前根本不存在这些能量。
And you've got all this more than MC2 out there, lower that one down, and it feels like we've figured out a way to make a huge amount of energy where there was no energy before.
这个推理强烈暗示,当物体半径小到这个程度时,一定有什么地方出错了。
This argument is pretty suggestive that something has to go wrong by the time you get down to that radius.
事实上,当你用完整的广义相对论来计算时,你会发现,没错,确实出了问题。
And, indeed, when you do the calculation, you know, this is a Newtonian calculation, so it's only suggestive, but when you do the calculation in full general relativity, indeed something does go wrong.
出问题的地方在于,你会形成一个黑洞。
And the thing that goes wrong is that you form a black hole.
你可以想象两种方式来避免这个结论。
You could imagine two ways that you could avoid this conclusion.
一种是,当你靠近大质量物体时,引力会变得非常弱,弱于牛顿定律的预测。
One would be somehow that gravity becomes very weak when you get close to a massive object, weaker than the Newtonian, law would predict.
这有点像在电磁学里重复这个操作时的解法——把一个电荷靠近另一个电荷,试图提取它们之间的静电能量。
That's sort of what saves you if you try and repeat this same trick in electromagnetism, lowering a charge down towards another charge and trying to extract the electrostatic energy between them.
实际上,由于量子效应,当两个电荷靠得太近时,它们的边界会变得模糊,导致能量随距离倒数变化的规律被平滑了,它们不再那么强烈地相互吸引,也就无法提取更多能量。
What happens is essentially due to quantum effects, when one gets too close to the other, they all start to fuzz out, and this the inverse the energy going like inverse r gets softened, and you can't extract more energy because they they stop attracting each other so hard.
所以,这是一种可能:当你靠近另一个物体时,作用力会比牛顿定律预测的更弱。
So that's one possibility, is that the force gets weaker than Newtonian law would predict as you approach the other object.
但实际情况恰恰相反,广义相对论的解决方式是让力变得更强。
That's actually the opposite of how general relativity resolves this.
广义相对论通过让引力比牛顿定律预测的更强,来化解这个悖论。
General relativity resolves this paradox by the force getting stronger than Newtonian law would predict.
特别是,当你试图靠近这个半径时,引力会变得极其强大,根本不可能慢慢把砖块放下去。
In particular, the force gets so strong when you try and get within this radius that in fact you cannot slowly lower the brick down towards the surface.
因为你已经形成了黑洞,引力会在某个有限距离上变得无穷大,而不是在 r 等于零的地方,而是在某个具体的有限半径处——砖块会直接从你手里被扯走,你再也无法从中提取任何能量。
Because you've formed a black hole, the gravitational force becomes infinite a finite distance distant way, not at r equals zero, but at some some finite value of r, and the brick simply gets ripped out of your hand, and you're unable to extract the extract any more energy out of it.
这就是广义相对论对这个悖论的解释。
And that's the resolution that general relativity provides to this paradox.
特别是你会发现,你已经形成了一个黑洞。
And in particular, you will find that you've formed black hole.
Crusoe 让我们提前试用了他们的无服务器微调产品,让你在不操心基础设施和资源调配的情况下微调开源模型。
Crusoe gave us early access to their serverless fine tuning product, which lets you fine tune open models without having to deal with infra or provisioning.
我觉得用我过去访谈的录音来微调一个提问生成器挺有意思的。
I thought it'd be cool to fine tuning a question generator using the transcripts of my old interviews.
这个模型现在已经厉害到,如果它掌握了我所有的研究资料,又能实时分析对话内容,它提出的下一个问题甚至比我本人还要精准。
The model's gotten so good that if they had all my research in prep and they could look at a conversation so far, they could ask a next question better than I would.
Crusoe 的实现过程特别简单直接。
Crusoe made the implementation super straightforward.
我刚上传了数据,选了一个开源模型,然后就开始运行了。
I just uploaded the data, picked an open model, and started the run.
我根本没碰任何超参数。
I didn't have to touch any of the hyperparameters.
Crusoe 的 AI 团队为每个模型都准备好了最优配置,所以我直接全设成自动模式就行了。
Crusoe's applied AI team maintains optimal recipes for each model, so I just set everything on auto.
运行结束后,我把它部署成一个自助式接口,还给团队做了一个评估工具。
When the run finished, I deployed it as a self serve endpoint and built an eval for my team.
我让他们从三个匿名选项里挑出最好的下一个问题。
I had them choose the best next question out of three anonymized choices.
一个是基础模型生成的,一个是微调后模型生成的,还有一个是我自己实际问的。
One that was produced by the base model, one that was produced by the fine tuned model, and one that I actually asked.
幸运的是,团队有三分之二的时间更喜欢我亲自问的问题。
Fortunately, my team preferred my actual questions about two thirds of the time.
希望这个基准测试别很快达到上限。
Hopefully, benchmark doesn't saturate.
在剩下的情况里,他们几乎总是更喜欢经过微调的模型,而不是基础模型。
And in the remaining cases, they almost always preferred the fine tuned model over the base model.
无服务器推理现在已经上线,无服务器微调功能下周正式推出。
Serverless inference is live now, and serverless fine tuning goes live next week.
了解更多内容,请访问 crusoe.aidwarkesh。
Learn more at crusoe.aidwarkesh.
到目前为止,我们在黑板上写下的所有内容都是牛顿力学的范畴。
So far, everything we've written down on the board is is Newtonian.
这纯粹是牛顿力学,只要你一加上光速,就会开始感到困惑。
It's just Newtonian, and you just stop plugging in the speed of light, you start getting confused.
要真正回答我们提出的这些问题,你得转向广义相对论——这个理论正确地把光速和引力统一了起来。
To actually answer some of these questions that we're asking, you need to go to general relativity, the the theory that correctly unifies the speed of light with gravity.
最早在黑洞的背景下提出这一点的是施瓦西,他推导出了施瓦西度规,描述了中心质量周围的引力场,包括黑洞周围的场。
And this was first done in the context of black holes by Schwarzschild, who wrote down the Schwarzschild metric that describes the gravitational field around a central mass, including potentially around a black hole.
让我写下一些由此得出的公式。
And let me just write down some of the formulas that emerge.
实际上,我想写下三个公式,它们都是施瓦西度规的直接推论,能帮我们直观理解黑洞内外的状况。
In fact, I think I'm going to write down three formulas, the three direct consequences of short shelled metric that are going to give us an intuition for what it's like outside and indeed inside a black hole.
我先写第一个公式,它描述的是,如果你试图在中心质量外部保持静止,会感受到多强的引力。
And so the first formula I'm going to write down is the formula for the gravitational field that you would experience if you were trying to remain static outside a central mass.
我们先讨论静止观察者的情况,之后再扩展到那些在移动的观察者。
And so, you know, let's just talk about for static observers so can discuss how these will get upgraded for observers who are moving around.
但现在,我假设你正停留在某个固定半径 r 的位置,远离黑洞。
But for now, I'm just going to imagine that you're trying to sit here at some radius r, some fixed radius r away from the black hole.
你之所以没掉下去,是因为你保持静止——也许我用滑轮把你放下来,你现在正抓着绳子悬在那里。问题是,你需要多大的力才能阻止自己坠入黑洞?
The reason you don't fall the reason you're static, the reason you don't fall into a black hole, maybe, you know, I've lowered you down on a pulley, and you're just sitting here, holding the pulley, and the question is how strong a force do you need to stop you falling down?
你的身体正缓慢地往下沉。
Your ab's sailing down very slowly.
你保持静止不动。
You you're you're static.
那你此刻感受到的局部引力有多大?
What is the local force of of gravity that you experience?
或者你可以想象,你坐在那儿,之所以能保持静止,是因为你开着一台强大的火箭推进器,那你 locally 感受到的加速度有多大呢?
Or you can imagine that you're sitting here, the reason you're static is you're finding a rocket very hard, and how much acceleration do you locally feel?
不管用什么方法,只要你保持静止,你感受到的局部引力是多少?
So by whatever mechanism, you're remaining static, what is the local force of gravity that you feel?
你感受到的局部引力,在牛顿物理里,答案其实很清楚。
The local force of gravity that you feel, well, in Newtonian physics, you know what the answer to that question would be.
引力就是 G M 除以 r 的平方,也就是牛顿著名的平方反比定律。
The force of gravity is g m over r squared, which is Newton's famous inverse square law.
但在广义相对论里,这个公式要加一个修正项。
But this gets a correction from general relativity.
修正项是 1 减去 2 G M 除以 c 的平方再乘以 r。
And the correction is one minus two g m over c squared times r.
这个 2 G M 除以 c 的平方,我们之前已经多次见到过了。
So this this this same two gm over c squared that we that we find all over the place.
这意味着,如果你离黑洞非常非常远,这个修正项就几乎等于 1。
And what this tells you, well, first of all, if you're a very long way away from the black hole, this here is essentially one.
当r非常大时,你就又回到了牛顿的引力定律。
R very big, and you get Newton's force law back again.
对于地球来说,这个修正值非常小。
And for the Earth, this this this is very small.
正如我们之前说的,它大约小了十的负十次方左右。
This you know, as we discussed, it's down by a factor of of 10 to the minus 10 or so.
然后你再开平方根。
And then you take the square root.
你平时根本察觉不到,但在r很大的时候做展开,就会发现有修正项。
So you don't you don't really notice it, but you can tailor expand this at at large r, and you find out that you get corrections.
会得到一个平方反比定律,加上一个立方反比的修正,再加一个四次方反比的修正,结果发现,在短距离上,引力比牛顿理论预测的要强。
You get an inverse square law plus an inverse cube law correction plus an inverse, fourth law correction, and you find that gravity at short distances is stronger than it would have been in Newtonian physics.
这就是广义相对论的修正,它让引力场变得更强了。
This is the general relativity correction, and it's making the gravitational field stronger.
为了不掉进黑洞,你得用更大的加速度来抵抗。
You have to accelerate harder to not fall into the black hole.
特别是当 r 等于 2GM 除以 c 平方时,也就是所谓的史瓦西半径,你需要无限大的加速度。
And in particular, once r is equal to two g m over c squared, this, what's called the Schwarzschild radius, you have to accelerate infinitely.
引力造成的加速度——也就是为了保持 r 值不变所需的固有加速度——会变得无穷大。
The gravity the acceleration, the proper acceleration required to not, not move in r goes to infinity.
所以,如果我们把这个应用到黑洞上,这个 2GM 除以 c 平方的半径就非常关键了。
So in fact, if we now convert this one to the black hole, this is a very significant radius over here, two g m over c squared.
它被称为事件视界。
It's, it's called the event horizon.
之所以叫事件视界,是因为只要你还在视界之外、离得更远的地方,想保持静止,只需要有限的加速度就够了。
It's called the event horizon because if you want to remain static outside the event horizon, further away from the event horizon, you just need to accelerate with some some finite velocity in order to remain static.
你需要一个有限的引力场,但当你靠近事件视界时,引力场会趋向无穷大。
You need to have a finite gravitational field, but the gravitational field as you approach the event horizon becomes infinite.
所以,一旦你到达或越过事件视界,就不可能再保持静止了。
So once you're at or beyond the event horizon, it is impossible to remain static.
不管你把火箭推到多强,你都注定会被吸入黑洞。
You will inevitably get sucked into the black hole no matter how hard you fire your rocket.
这只是静态情况下的公式。
Now, this is just the static formula.
你可能会想,虽然在那个半径以内没法保持静止,但也许我可以绕着黑洞高速公转,这样就不会掉进去。
You might imagine, okay, it's impossible to remain static outside the black hole closer than that, but maybe I could not fall into the black hole by orbiting, really, really fast.
如果我转得够快,离心力就会把我往外推,就能避开黑洞了。
And if I orbit really, really fast, I have a huge centrifugal force that pushes me away from the the black hole, and I can stay out of the black hole that way.
但实际上这行不通,而且这个原因对理解广义相对论中的引力机制很有启发。
That actually doesn't work, and the reason it doesn't work is somewhat instructive, for the way gravitational attraction happens in general relativity.
举个例子,国际空间站为什么不会掉向地球?
Of course, if you think about the International Space Station, why doesn't it fall towards the Earth?
正是因为它们在绕行,这种运动产生的离心力正好抵消了地球引力,所以宇航员才会感觉失重。
It is precisely the fact that it's that it's orbiting, and the fact that it's orbiting gives it a centrifugal force that shoots the astronauts away from the Earth and precisely balances the the gravitational field of the astronauts, which is why they they feel weightless there.
在远离黑洞的地方,轨道角动量确实能帮你维持距离,防止被吸进去。
So orbital angular momentum, if you're a long way away from the black hole, helps you escape from stay stay away from the black hole, stops you falling in.
但有一种常见的科幻误解,以为黑洞会把周围的一切都吸进去。
There is this kind of sci fi notion that black holes just suck in everything around them.
不对。
Not true.
如果你离黑洞足够远,完全可以围绕它运行,就像围绕任何中心质量公转一样。
You are perfectly able to orbit around a black hole, if you're a long way away from it, just like you would orbit around any central mass.
你并不会不可避免地掉进黑洞。
You are not inevitably falling into the black hole.
你完全可以稳定地绕行。
You can you can orbit just fine.
但当你离黑洞太近时,绕行就不再有帮助了。
But orbiting stops helping when you get too close to the black hole.
我们之前说过,事件视界的半径是 2GM 除以 c 的平方。
We said that the event horizon is is two g m over of c squared.
实际上,一旦你进入 3GM 除以 c 平方的范围内,绕行反而会适得其反,让你更难远离黑洞。
In fact, already once you're within three g m over c squared, orbiting is counterproductive if you're trying to stay away from the black hole.
这是因为绕行会产生两种效应。
And that's because there are two effects of orbiting.
轨道运动的一个作用是帮你远离黑洞。
One effect of orbiting helps you stay away from the black hole.
这就是离心效应。
That's the centrifugal effect.
由于离心效应,轨道角动量会把你推离黑洞。
Orbital angular momentum pushes you away from the black hole due to the centrifugal effect.
如果我们写出这个公式,其实并不难。
And if we wrote the it's not too hard to write down.
如果你写出考虑了角动量的版本,就会发现它确实把你往外推。
If you wrote the version of this formula that applies when you have angular momentum, you would see that pushing you away from the black hole.
但还有另一个效应,会把你拉向黑洞。
But there's another effect which drags you towards the black hole.
那就是广义相对论中的一个事实:所有形式的能量都会产生引力。
And that is the fact that in general relativity, all energy gravitates.
不只是静止质量会产生引力,动能也会产生引力。
Not just rest mass energy gravitates, kinetic energy also gravitates.
所以,绕行的效果是,由于黑洞质量与你轨道角能量之间的引力耦合,你会额外受到一股朝向黑洞的拉力。
And so the effect of orbiting is that you have an additional pull down towards the black hole from the coupling between the mass of the black hole and the gravitational attraction between the mass of the black hole and your orbital angular energy.
当你离黑洞较远时,离心力是主导因素。
And when you're far away from the black hole, the centrifugal force is the more important term.
但当你靠近黑洞时,这种耦合效应就变得更为关键。
When you're close to the black hole, that coupling is the more important term.
事实上,一旦你进入三倍史瓦西半径以内,轨道角动量就不再帮你远离,反而开始把你拉向黑洞。
And in fact, once you get within three gs m, orbital angular momentum stops helping and starts hurting.
在三倍史瓦西半径以内的区域,没有任何弹道轨道能让你进入后再逃出来。
There are no ballistic orbits that go within three gs m and that manage to escape again.
明白了。
Okay.
这就是第一个公式。
So that's formula number one.
它告诉你,在距离黑洞 r 的位置,引力场是什么样子。
It tells you that what the gravitational field is, a distance r away from a black hole.
特别是,它表明一旦你到达这个临界半径,引力场就会变得无限强,只要你跨过这个界限,无论你把火箭推到多强,都注定会坠向黑洞中心。
And in particular, it shows you that once you get to this critical radius, the gravitational field becomes infinite, and you must if you cross that, you must proceed to the black to the center of the black hole no matter how hard you fire a rocket.
这被称为事件视界。
That's called the event horizon.
在事件视界上,你还没死。
At the event horizon, you are not yet dead.
但你已经无法逃脱了。
You are, however, doomed.
只要你跨过事件视界,就再也没法逃出去了。
If you cross the event horizon, you will never be able to escape.
就算你把自己变成光,拼命往外射,也逃不掉。
Not if you convert yourself to light and try and shoot yourself out.
就算你把火箭推到极限,用尽所有动力,也无济于事。
Not if you fire your rocket infinitely hard.
另一个地方当然是 r 等于零,那里才是你真正丧命的地方,也就是奇点。
The other place, of course, is r equals zero, which is that's where you actually die, and that's at the singularity.
我们一会儿再详细讲一讲这个。
And we'll describe that a little bit in a moment.
在牛顿力学里,引力只有在这里才会变得无穷大。
In Newtonian physics, the gravitational force only becomes infinite here.
而在广义相对论中,只要你试图抵抗引力,引力在事件视界处就已经无穷大了。
In general relativity, it becomes infinite already at the event it raised if you try and resist the force of gravity.
好了,这是第一个公式。
Okay, that's formula number one.
接下来我们看第二个公式。
Now let's do formula number two.
第二个公式,还有接下来的两个公式,其实都彼此紧密相关。
Formula number two, and all three formulas I'm going to write down are just going to be you know, heavily related to each other.
它们本质上都是彼此的另一种表达方式。
They're really going to be reformulations of each other.
讲的是引力时间膨胀。
Asks about gravitational time dilation.
我们再来想象一下,你就坐在这里。
So let's again imagine that you're sitting here.
你看,这是Dwarkesh,坐在离黑洞某个半径R的地方。
You know, this is Dwarkesh sitting here some radius R away from the black hole.
而我呢,坐在远处,远远地在无穷远处,就看着你。
And I'm sitting, you know, out here, way off at infinity, just watching you.
我们俩相对于彼此是静止的。
And we're static relative to each other.
没有任何相对运动。
There's no there's no relative motion.
你只是靠着你的滑轮系统悬停在这里。
You're just suspended here by your by your pulley system.
问题是,你的手表相对于我的手表走得有多快?
And the question is, how fast does your watch go relative to mine?
当然,对你来说,你的手表就是一秒一秒地正常走着。
Of course, as far as you're concerned, your your watch is is ticking at one second per second.
至于我这边,我的手表也是每秒滴答一次。
As far as I'm concerned, my watch is ticking at one second per second.
但如果我看着你,观察你的话,我会觉得你的手表走得慢。
But if I watch you, if I look at you, I see your watch as running slow.
而如果你看我,你会觉得我的手表走得快。
If you look at me, you see my watch is running fast.
所以第二个公式就把这个差异量化了。
And so the second formula makes that quantitative.
你离黑洞这么近,你的手表比我这个远处的手表慢了多少呢?
How much slower you, who is close to the black hole, how much slower your wristwatch runs than mine?
公式说,你手表测出的时间间隔,等于我这个远处手表测出的时间间隔,乘上这个一直出现的平方根因子,再乘以根号下1减去2GM除以Rc平方。
And it says that the time interval as measured by your wristwatch is given by the time interval as measured by my wristwatch a long way away times this exact same square root factor that's showing up all over the place, times the square root of one minus two g m over r, c squared.
所以这个因子是小于1的。
And so this factor here is less than one.
如果我觉得过了一秒,你那边会觉得还没到一秒。
So if I think one second has passed, you think less than one second has passed.
换句话说,如果我慢慢把你降到黑洞附近,你在离黑洞一定距离的地方待上一整年,感觉就像过了一年,等我再把你带回远离黑洞的地方时,你会发现外面的世界已经老了更多。
In other words, if I slowly lower you down towards the black hole, you hang out some finite distance away from the black hole for what feels to you like a year, and then raise you back up a long way away from the black hole, you will return to a world that has aged a lot more than you have.
这个公式精确地描述了这一现象。
And this formula makes that makes that precise.
我看到你的手表走得比我的慢。
I observe your wristwatch to be running slow.
你看到我的手表走得比你的快。
You observe my wristwatch to be running fast.
在这里,时间过得比上面慢。
Time passes slower down here than it does up here.
这个现象早在20世纪50年代,就已被哈佛大学物理系通过实验反复验证。
This is a fact that has by now been extremely well observed experimentally in the 1950s in the Harvard Physics Department.
他们把两个原子钟放在大楼的不同高度,发现位置较高的那个走得比位置较低的快。
They put two atomic clocks at two diff two different heights in in the building and noticed the one that the one that was higher, was running faster than the one that was slower.
如今,这种效应在GPS等技术的精度范围内已经完全可以测量。
This is an effect that is now, considerably within the precision of, for example, GPS.
系统必须减去这个效应,不然所有数据都会乱套。
It just has to subtract that effect, otherwise everything would drift all over the place.
地面上的GPS时钟比轨道上发送信号的原子钟走得慢,必须把这个差异计算进去并修正,才能得到准确的读数。
GPS clocks that are sitting on the Earth's surface are running slow compared to the atomic clocks that are in orbit sending out the signal, and you have to account for that difference and subtract it off in order to get an accurate read.
这被称为引力时间膨胀。
This is known as gravitational time dilation.
注意,这和狭义相对论里由于两个物体相对运动产生的时间膨胀完全不同。
And notice it's quite different from the relativistic time dilation you see in special relativity, which is caused by two objects being in motion relative to each other.
在这里,我们之间并没有相对运动。
Here, we're not in motion relative to each other.
我们俩都是静止的。
We're both static.
我们都是固定的。
We're fixed.
这源于我们处在引力势的不同位置——你比我更深地陷在引力势阱里。
This is caused by us being at a different place in the gravitational potential, you deeper in the gravitational potential than me.
所以这两种时间膨胀效应是相互叠加的。
So those are two different sources of time dilation, and they stack.
假设你现在不是静止在这里,而是在绕行。
So let's say instead of being static here, you're orbit.
你离得足够远,可以围绕黑洞运行。
You're far enough away that you can orbit the black hole.
那我问你,我看到你移动得有多慢?
And I ask, how slow do I see you as moving?
现在有两种因素,都会让你在我眼里显得更慢。
There are now two contributions, both of which make you look slow relative to me.
其中一个因素是引力时间膨胀,由这个公式决定。
The one contribution is the gravitational time dilation, given by this formula.
另一个因素是狭义相对论里的经典效应——运动的观察者看起来时间会变慢。
A second contribution is the good old special relativity correction where moving observers look like they're going slow.
这两种效应都会同时存在。
And we'll have both of those effects.
所以当你围绕黑洞运行时,你看起来会比平时更慢。
So you'll look like you're going even slower than you would have done otherwise as as you go around the black hole.
这和狭义相对论的一个不同之处在于,这里没有对称性。在狭义相对论里,两个观察者都会觉得对方过得更慢,因为彼此相对运动的速度一样,没有哪个是真正惯性参考系。
So so one thing that seems different between this and special relativity is that there's no symmetry, where in special relativity, both observers will feel that the other one is aging slower than they are because they're both moving relative to each other at the same rate, and there's no true inertial path.
但在这里,确实能感觉到有一个全局意义上的参考系更准确、更相关。
But here, it actually does seem like there's a global sense in which one is a more correct the the the more relevant inertial frame than the other one.
你说得完全对。
You're exactly right.
没错。
Yeah.
在狭义相对论中,如果你我彼此相对运动,我会觉得你的表走得慢。
So in special relativity, if you and I are moving relative to each other, I think your watch is moving slow.
而你觉得我的表走得慢。
You think my watch is moving slow.
我们俩谁都没错。
Neither of us is more correct than the other.
相对性原理告诉我们,我们的两种视角同样有效。
The principle of relativity tells you that both of our perspectives is equally valid.
但在这里,我们的两种视角并不等价,因为这里没有狭义相对论中的那种对称性。
Here, both of our perspectives are not equally valid because there is is not the symmetry that there was in special relativity.
特别是,这种对称性被黑洞打破了。
In particular, the symmetry is broken by the black hole.
我们都同意,你处于比我还深的引力势阱中。
You really we both agree that you are deeper in the gravitational well than I am.
这一点我们都认可,而且你的钟比我的走得慢。
We both agree on that, and your clock runs slower than my does than mine does.
你并不会反过来觉得我的钟变慢了。
You do not see my clock reciprocally running slow.
事实上,你看到的是我生活得更快。
You, in fact, see me living sped up.
如果你在观察我,你会看到我像快进一样过着日子。
If you if you are observing me, you see me living my my life in fast forward.
有意思。
Interesting.
这是第二个公式。
So this is the second formula.
它描述了我们的手表彼此之间走时快慢的差异。
It says how fast our wrist wristwatches move relative to each other.
现在想象你在这里,戴着走得很慢的手表,然后朝我发射一束光。
Now let's imagine that you're here with your slow moving wristwatch, and you shine a light towards me.
假设这束光有特定的频率。
And let's say the light has a particular frequency.
比如,你是用钠原子跃迁产生的光,频率是固定的。
You made it with with a sodium transition, for example, a particular frequency of light.
当这束光向上传播到我这里时,我会觉得它的频率比你发射时低。
As that light travels upwards, by the time it reaches me, I'm going to think that it is lower frequency than it was when than you thought it was when you sent it.
为什么?
Why?
因为频率反映的是振荡的快慢,而在我看来,你所有的一切都进行得比较慢。
Because frequency is about how rapidly it oscillates, And I just think that everything you do is moving slow relative to me.
你觉得它的振荡变慢了。
You think it's oscillating slower.
频率变低了,也就是说,光向光谱的红端偏移了。
It has lower frequency, which means it gets shifted towards the red part of the spectrum.
我们管这个叫红移,引力红移。
The word the word that we use is redshift, gravitational redshift.
光发生了红移,频率变低,能量也就跟着降低了。
It gets redshifted, lower frequency, and therefore less energy.
如果你向上发射一个光子,它的能量就取决于频率。
If you send one photon up, the energy of the photon is given by the by the frequency.
它到达我这里时,红移更明显,能量也比离开你那里时更低。
It'll arrive at me more more redshifted and with lower energy than it had when it left you.
反过来,如果我在这上面向你发射一个由钠跃迁产生的光子,对你来说,当光到达你时,我这边的一切就像快进一样。
Conversely, if I am up here and I send you a photon generated by the sodium transition, as observed by you, by the time the light reaches you, you see me moving in a fast forward.
所以你觉得,它离开你的时候频率比现在低。
So you think that it has higher frequency than it had when left you.
它的光谱向蓝色端偏移了。
It's moved towards the blue part of the spectrum.
我们称之为蓝移。
We say that it is blueshifted.
这个思想实验告诉你,时间在不同高度流逝的速率,直接决定了能量在不同高度的价值换算关系。
And so this thought experiment tells you that knowing the exchange rate for how, time passes at different altitudes directly gives you the exchange rate for how much energy is worth at different altitudes.
如果你试图把能量传给我,等它到达我这里时,对我而言的价值,已经比你当初认为的低了。
If you try and send me some energy, by the time it reaches me, it's worth less to me than you perceived it as being worth to you.
而价值降低的幅度,正好由那个控制一切的平方根公式精确决定。
And the amount it's less is going to be precisely given by the same square root formula that's controlling everything else.
这就给我们带来了第三个公式。
And so that gives us our third equation.
第三个公式是这样的:假设你,Dwarkesh,有一个质量为 m c 平方的物体,正停在你下方的固定半径处。
And so the third formula says, suppose that you, Dwarkesh, have an object of mass m c squared sitting with you at this fixed radius down there.
从我这个远离黑洞的地方来看,这个物体到底值多少能量?
How much energy, as measured by me a long way away from the black hole, how much energy is that worth to me?
当然,如果它在我这儿,它的能量就是 m c 平方,但它并不在我这儿。
Of course, if I had it with me, it would be worth m c squared worth of energy, but I don't have it with me.
它不幸地正处在你那边很深的引力势阱里。
It's unfortunately sitting with you deep in a gravitational potential.
所以对我而言,它的价值低于 m c 平方。
So I have it's worth less than m c squared to me.
事实上,用的正是同一个公式。
In fact, it's just the exact same formula.
当它传到我这儿时,我所接收到的能量值是 G M 除以 R C 平方。
The amount of energy that it's worth to me by the time it reaches me is g m over r c squared.
这个结论有几种理解方式。
And there are a couple of ways to see that.
其中一种,就是我们刚才讲过的那种。
One is the way that we just that we just set.
假设你拿一个质量为 m 的物体。
Suppose you take your object of mass m.
这其实就是阿伏伽德罗常数个碳原子。
It's just Avogadro's numbers of carbon atoms.
或者说,它是一半阿伏伽德罗常数的碳原子,加上一半阿伏伽德罗常数的反碳原子。
Or let's say it's half an Avogadro's numbers of carbon atoms and half a Avogadro's numbers of anti carbon atoms.
你可以通过让它们相互碰撞,引发剧烈爆炸,来把能量传给我。
And one way you could send me the energy is by smashing them together, violent explosion.
你把所有这些能量转化成光,然后试图把光能传送到我这里。
You convert all of that energy to light, and you try and beam that light energy up to me.
但正由于引力时间膨胀效应,当光到达我这里时,我得到的能量已经不到 mc² 了。
But what you find precisely because of this gravitational time dilation is by the time it reaches me, I'm not getting MC squared worth out.
根据我们刚才的推导,我得到的能量确实少于 mc²。
I'm getting, by the argument we just gave, less than MC squared worth out.
我实际得到的是 1 减去 2gm 除以 r c 平方。
I'm getting one minus two gm of r c squared out.
这里的质量在上升过程中会发生红移,等它到达无穷远时,能量已经比最初少了。
Mass down here suffers this red shifting as it goes up and has less energy by the time it reaches infinity than it did to begin with.
还有一种方式可以把能量传给我。
There is another way that you could have got the energy to me.
不是用光束把能量传上来,而是直接把你的质量物体挂到滑轮上,让我把它拉出来。
Not by beaming it up as light, but by just taking your mass object, attaching it to the pulley, and having having me pull the object out.
等我把它拉出来之后,我就在这儿,离黑洞很远的地方,得到了完整的 m c 平方能量。
By the time I pulled it out, I've now got m c squared sitting out here, a long way away from the black hole.
所以,我确实得到了完整的 m c 平方能量。
So I do have m c squared, the full m c squared worth of energy.
但要得到它,我得付出代价。
But to get it, I needed to pay.
我付出的代价,就是克服引力势能把它拉出来。
And what I needed to pay was precisely, pulling it out of the gravitational potential.
从这个角度看,我就明白了为什么最后剩下的能量不到完整的 m c 平方——因为要把质量拉出来,我得先为克服引力势能买单。
So that from that way of thinking about it, that's why I have less than m c squared worth of energy left, because I had to pay the pulling it out for the potential in order to accrue that mass.
所以这个公式告诉你,如果我手里有一块质量为 m c 平方的砖,放在距离黑洞 r 的位置,而我本人离黑洞很远,我能从这块砖里提取多少能量?
So this formula tells you, if I have a brick of mass m c squared sitting some radius r away from the black hole, how much energy can I extract from that brick if I'm if I start if I'm a long way from the black hole?
如果我们知道了这个公式,就能精确算出这个值。
And so if we know that formula, then we can in fact calculate exactly this formula.
当我把砖块慢慢降到半径 r 的位置时,到底提取了多少能量?
How much energy have I extracted from the brick by lowering it down to a radius r?
这个问题的答案我们其实已经知道了。
Well, we know the answer to that question.
它一开始的能量是 m c 平方。
The energy it started with is m c squared.
现在它剩下的能量就是这个值。
The energy it now has is this.
所以,通过滑轮系统慢慢把砖块降下来的过程中,我提取的能量,就是初始能量 m c 平方,减去它现在剩下的能量。
So the energy I've extracted from the brick while slowly lowering it down using my pulley system must be the energy I started with, m c squared, minus the energy it now has.
换句话说,我通过把砖块降到半径 r 处所提取的能量占比,就是 m c 平方减去这个值,再除以 m c 平方,也就是 1 减去根号下 1 减去 2 G M 除以 c 平方 r。
Or in other words, the fraction of the energy that I've extracted by lowering it down to a radius r is, m c squared minus this, all divided by m c squared, one minus root one minus two g m over c squared r.
这个公式准确给出了提取能量的比例。
And this is the exactly correct answer for the fraction of the energy extracted.
它看起来和这个不太一样,因为那个只在牛顿力学的近似下成立。
It doesn't look exactly like this because this is only correct in the Newtonian limit.
我们是用牛顿物理推导出那个公式的。
We derive this using Newtonian physics.
而这个公式不仅在牛顿近似下成立,即使在广义相对论效应显著的地方也完全准确。
This is exactly correct not just in the Newtonian limit, but all the way to where the effects of general relativity are important.
如果你离黑洞非常非常远,r 远远大于 2G M 除以 c 平方,那就可以对这个公式做近似展开。
Now, if you're a very, very long way away from the black hole, r is much, much bigger than two g m over c squared, then you can tailor expand this formula.
而一阶近似项,就是原来的牛顿公式。
And the first order term is just the old Newtonian formula.
这本来就应该如此。
It better be.
广义相对论在远距离下的结果,必须还原成我们最初发现的牛顿物理。
It better be that the long distance limit of general relativity recovers the Newtonian physics that we we originally discovered.
但当你越来越靠近黑洞时,这个结果就开始偏离牛顿力学的预测,而这种偏离恰恰能解决我们最初那个关于把砖块往黑洞下方放的思维实验。
But as you get closer and closer to the black hole, this starts to deviate from the Newtonian answer and deviate in the Newtonian answer that exactly is gonna end up resolving our original thought experiment to do with lowering a brick down towards a black hole.
那么,根据这个公式,当我把砖块慢慢往黑洞靠近时,到底提取了多少能量呢?
So how much, then, looking at this formula, have I extracted from the brick as I lower it down towards the black hole?
如果 r 是无穷大,也就是说砖块还离黑洞很远,那我提取的能量就是一减一等于零。
If r equals infinity, if I haven't if the brick's still a long way from the way from the black hole, then I've extracted one minus one equals zero.
我从黑洞里一点能量都没提取出来。
I haven't extracted any energy from the black hole.
当我把砖块慢慢往黑洞靠近时,一开始得到的还是牛顿力学的公式。
As I lower it closer and closer to the black hole, well, initially, I just get the Newtonian formula.
实际上,这些公式在广义相对论里也基本靠谱,因为只有当这个项接近1的时候,修正项才会变得显著,而目前它还很小。
So in fact, these are pretty close to correct in general relativity as well because the corrections are only going to start getting large when this term becomes order one, and it's still very small here.
所以这些公式在现阶段都基本是正确的。
So these are all essentially correct.
但一旦我靠得更近,它们就不再准确了。
But once I get closer and closer to the black hole, they they stop being correct.
我发现,当 r 趋近于黑洞的事件视界时,这个公式趋近于零,意味着我已经把砖块的全部能量都提取出来了。
And and what I see is that as r approaches the black hole event horizon, as this formula goes to zero, I have extracted exactly all of the energy from the brick.
我一开始把砖块放在离黑洞非常远的地方,用一根绳子系住,慢慢把它往事件视界方向放下去。
So I start off with a brick a very, very long way from a black hole, attach it to a rope, slowly lower the brick down towards the event horizon.
当然,我不能把它放到视界以下,否则就失去控制了;但我会把它放到能放的最低点——就在视界正上方,然后轻轻松手,让它从静止状态自由下落。
Of course, I can't lower it past the event horizon, otherwise, I'll lose control of the brick, but I'd lower it as you know, right above the event horizon, the the last possible place I can lower it to, and then just let go of it with zero velocity.
砖块掉进黑洞后,我通过外面的滑轮系统,把原本属于砖块的全部质能 E=mc² 都提取出来了。
The brick falls into the black hole, and I have extracted the entire MC2 that used to be in the brick in my pulley system out there.
这样一来,我们之前的问题就完全得到了解答。
And so it exactly resolves this question we had.
有可能从砖块中提取超过 mc² 的能量吗?
Is it possible to extract more than MC2 from the brick?
不可能。
No.
能用黑洞把砖块的全部 mc² 能量都提取出来吗?
Is it possible to extract the full m c squared from the brick using a black hole?
是的,可以做到。
Yes, it is.
这其实很巧妙,也正是人们考虑把黑洞当作发电站的原因。
And that's actually pretty neat and why people talk about using black holes as power plants.
如今大多数发电站都是通过燃烧化学能来运作的。
Most power plants today operate by burning chemical energy.
这种做法效率并不高。
That is not very efficient.
你需要付出十的负十次方的代价,因为化学键相比物体的静止质量来说太弱了,你实际上只提取了燃料静止质量中极小的一部分。
You have pay a factor of 10 to the minus 10, because chemical bonds are super weak compared to the rest masses of objects, and you're really only extracting a tiny fraction of the rest mass of the fuel that you're you're considering.
你可以进一步提升效率,转向核能——不再依赖原子间微弱的电磁力,而是利用原子核内质子与中子之间的核力。
You can level up from there by going to by going to nuclear energy, which, instead of it dealing with the feeble electromagnetic bonds between atoms, starts to concern itself with the nuclear forces between the the protons and the neutrons within the within the nucleus.
这样,能量提取效率就能从大约十的负十次方提升到裂变的十的负三次方,或者聚变的十的负二次方。
And so you can go up from about 10 to the minus 10 to about 10 to the minus three for fission or 10 to the minus two for fusion.
但即便在裂变和聚变中,这已经是极限了。
But that's about as good as you can go even with fission and fusion.
尽管你可以从强核力中提取能量,比如裂变和聚变,但这些过程都不会改变质子和中子的总数。
Because even though you can extract energy from the strong nuclear force, fission and fusion, neither of them change the total number of protons plus neutrons in your process.
大部分能量——99%的能量——其实都储存在质子和中子的静止质量里,而不是电磁相互作用或者核力中,这一点化学反应和核反应都碰不到。
And the bulk of the energy, 99% of the energy, is stored not in the electromagnetic interaction, not in the stronger direction, but in the rest mass energy of the protons and neutrons, something that neither chemical reactions nor nuclear reactions can touch.
但引力可以做到。
But gravity can touch them.
如果我从一个质量为 m 的物体开始,理论上我能提取出接近全部的能量,几乎能100%利用它原本的静止质量能。
If I start off with a mass object of m, I can extract up to quantum fractions essentially, I can extract essentially 100% of the rest mass energy that I've gone in.
这可能是效率最高的发电方式,因为只要设计出这样的装置,原则上就能把初始物质的全部能量都提取出来。
It is the most efficient possible power plant because by building an apparatus like this, in principle, I could extract a 100% of the energy of whatever I started with.
我大概能理解能量和质量是等价的,化学键断裂时会释放能量,物体的质量也会因此减少。
I intuitively get how energy equals mass, and then there's, like, these chemical bonds, those get dissolved, they release energy, the thing weighs less if the those bonds are released.
我也明白,当质子和中子之间的键被打破时,也会释放能量,导致质量减少。
I even get that if the bonds between the protons and the neutrons are broken, that releases energy and makes the thing have less mass.
但如果一个包含质子和中子的物体刚好在事件视界上方,是不是意味着这些质子和中子就在那一刻彻底消失了?
But if something with protons and neutrons is just slightly above the event horizon, is the interpretation that those protons and neutrons stop existing right at that point?
那它们只剩下原始质量的1%、2%或5%,这到底意味着什么?
What does it mean for them to be have 1% or 2% or 5% of their original mass?
是的。
Yeah.
这是个非常好的问题,真正要讲清楚就得涉及量子力学了,不过那已经超出今天讨论的范围了。
This is that's a great question and really becomes relevant once you turn on quantum mechanics, which is beyond the scope of today's discussion.
但从经典物理的角度来看,黑洞就一直待在那里,所以你完全可以问:那些质子和中子去哪儿了?
But classically, the black hole just sits there forever, and so you can just say, well, what happened to the protons and neutrons?
答案就是,它们现在被禁锢在黑洞里面了。
You say, well, they now live inside the the black hole.
而宇宙中的质子和中子总数,仍然是守恒的。
And the number of protons plus neutrons is still conserved out there in the universe.
你只需要给黑洞本身赋予一个‘重子数’就可以了。
It's just you need to assign a called a nucleon number to the black hole itself.
从经典物理的角度看,这样解释是没问题的。
That's fine as far as it goes classically.
从量子力学的角度来看,这远远超出了今天讲座的范围,霍金和贝肯斯坦发现,黑洞其实会辐射能量。
Quantum mechanically, way beyond the scope of today's lecture, Hawking, and Beckenstein discovered that black holes, radiate away energy.
最终,黑洞会完全消失,所有能量——如果你仔细计算的话——都会变成引力子、光子,也许还有一些中微子。
Eventually, the black hole will be gone, and all of the energy, if you calculate it, ends up in gravitons and photons and perhaps some neutrinos.
其中几乎没有一点会变成质子或中子。
None of it or almost none of it ends up in protons and neutrons.
一旦引入量子引力,就会发现一个非常有趣的现象:黑洞会吞噬重子数。
It is a very interesting fact, once you turn on quantum gravity, that black holes eat nuclear number.
原本看起来在电磁力和核力作用下都守恒的量,最终却被引力给吞掉了。
This thing that seems like it's conserved, at least perturbatively, both both by electromagnetism and by the nuclear forces, ends up being eaten by by gravity.
对的。
Mhmm.
很多人喜欢把这一点推广成一个更普遍的原理:量子引力不尊重任何全局对称性。
And people like to promote this we're talking about quantum gravity now to a general principle that quantum gravity doesn't respect any global symmetries.
它不尊重重子数对称性。
It doesn't respect nuclear number symmetry.
它也不尊重这些对称性。
It doesn't respect any of these symmetries.
这可是另一个大话题了,咱们改天再细聊吧。
And that's a whole other can of worms that we can open some other day.
我最近写了一篇博客,推测过去几年里,训练时的样本效率其实并没有太大提升,真正大幅改善的是数据分布的广度和多样性。
I recently wrote this blog post where I speculated that sample efficiency during training actually hasn't improved that much over the last few years, and rather we've just dramatically improved and widened the data distribution.
最近我和朋友吃饭时,突然想到一个办法,可以实际验证这个问题。
And I was having dinner with friends recently and then I had this idea of how you could get some empirical information on this question.
现在有个叫 NanoGPT 的速度挑战赛,参赛者们比谁能在固定损失值的前提下,用最少的计算资源训练出 Karpathy 的 GPT-2 基线模型。
There's this NanoGPT speedrun where people compete to train Karpathy's GPT-two baseline to a fixed loss with less and less compute.
训练数据是固定的,所以我想到,如果分析每个参赛记录的损失曲线随时间的变化,大概就能看出样本效率提升的速度。
The training data is frozen, so I wondered if the loss curves over time of each record could tell you roughly how fast sample efficiency is improving.
于是我掏出手机,把这想法录进 Cursor 应用的语音备忘录里,然后继续吃饭。
So I pulled up my phone, I dumped this idea into a voice note in the Cursor app, and I went back to dinner.
大概十五分钟后,我收到一条通知——Cursor 的智能代理已经克隆了修改版的 NanoGPT 仓库,分析了所有参赛记录的损失曲线,估算出样本效率每年大约提升两到五倍。
And then I got a notification about fifteen minutes later, the Cursor agent had cloned the modded NanoGPT repo, it had analyzed all the loss curves for all the records, and it estimated that sample efficiency had been improving about two to five x every single year.
当然,这只是一个很初步、很零散的线索,但它让我萌生了和朋友一起写一篇完整文章的想法,用多种方法来深入探讨这个问题。
Of course, is very naive and circumstantial evidence, but it inspired me to start writing a full post with a friend where we investigate this question using many different methods.
而这里的便捷性真的非常关键。
And the friction really mattered here.
如果不能立刻用 Cursor 应用启动这个调查,这个想法早就溜走了。
The idea would have just floated away if I wasn't able to just kick off the investigation right then and there with the Cursor app.
如果你想试试 Cursor 的 iOS 应用,可以去 cursor.com/dwarkesh。
If you wanna try Cursor's iOS app, go to cursor.com/dwarkesh.
好的,亚当。
Okay, Adam.
我希望这个播客不仅能传递理论知识,也能带来实际的洞见。
I'd like to think of this podcast being part not only theoretical or practical knowledge as well.
假设有人把所有这些公式都背得滚瓜烂熟,结果一不小心掉进了黑洞,他会看到什么?
So suppose, one learns all these equations, but then finds himself in the unfortunate position of falling into a black hole, what would they see?
好问题。
Great question.
实际上,你可以从两个不同的角度来看这个问题。
So there's actually two different perspectives you could take.
一个是我在外面看着你掉进黑洞的情形。
One is the perspective of me watching you falling into the black hole.
另一个是你自己掉进黑洞时的体验。
The other is the perspective of you falling into the black hole.
这两种视角彼此并不矛盾,但却有很有趣的差异。
And those two perspectives are consistent with each other, but interestingly different.
所以我最好把这两种情况都解释一下。
So maybe I should describe them both.
首先,我们来想想,当你掉进黑洞的时候,我能看到什么?
So first, let's ask the question, what do I see as you fall into the black hole?
我看到的是,你本来需要多大的推力、多拼命地点火才能避免被黑洞吸进去,但你根本不会这么做。
What I see this is, of course, how you how fast you need to how hard you need to fire your rocket towards not falling to the black hole, but you're not gonna do this.
你就只是远远地、远远地待在黑洞外面。
You're just gonna sit here a long, long way away from the black hole.
你会关掉火箭,顺其自然。
You're gonna turn off your rocket and accept what comes.
接下来,你会慢慢加速朝黑洞坠落,起初遵循牛顿力学的公式,但靠近黑洞时,就要开始加入广义相对论的修正,调整牛顿的平方反比定律。
And what comes is you'll slowly accelerate towards the black hole with a rate first given by the Newtonian formula, and then when you get close to the black black hole, start picking up corrections, start picking up general relativity corrections to the Newtonian inverse square law.
当我看着你坠向黑洞时,一开始你会越掉越快,因为你在黑洞的引力势中不断下落。
And so what I will see as I watch you fall towards the black hole is first, you'll go faster and faster and faster towards the black hole as you fall down the gravitational potential of the black hole.
速度越来越快,但接着奇怪的事发生了——你不再加速,反而开始变慢。
And faster and faster and faster, but then something strange will happen, which is you'll stop going faster and you'll start going slower.
你变慢的原因是,随着你下落,引力时间膨胀效应开始显现,我看到你的动作变迟缓了,你的时钟也走得越来越慢。
And the reason you're going slower is that as I watch you, you start to get gravitational time dilation as you fall down here, and I start to see you running slow, your clock running slow.
这个公式适用于你静止不动的情况。
This is the formula for if you were static.
但你并不是静止的。
You're not static.
你正在运动。
You're moving.
所以还有另一个公式。
So there's some other formula.
但这个公式的效果是一样的:当你越来越接近黑洞时,你的手表会越来越慢。
But the formula has the same effect, which is that as you get closer and closer towards the black hole, your wristwatch starts running slower and slower and slower.
事实上,如果你做正确的积分计算,我永远看不到你越过事件视界。
And in fact, if you do the appropriate integral, I never see you cross the event horizon.
我只看到你越来越靠近事件视界,但同时速度越来越慢,越来越慢。
I just see you getting closer and closer to the event horizon, but slowing and slowing and slowing as you get closer and closer to the event horizon.
当我观察你的时候,我大概是用光来观察的,而这些光会变得越来越红移。
And as I watch you, I'm presumably using light to watch you, that light gets more and more red shifted.
光的波长会变得越来越长。
The wavelength gets longer and longer.
光的波长越长,就越难真正看清你。
The longer the wavelength of light, the harder it is even to really see you.
我开始因为光的波长而无法准确定位你。
I start getting you start getting delocalized by the wavelength of the light.
最后,我就完全看不到你了。
And eventually, I just stop seeing you entirely.
我最后看到的,是你发出的那一个光子,然后你就渐渐变暗,从红到黑。
There's a final photon that I see that that you emit, and then you just fade to black, fade through red.
彻底变黑,我永远也看不到你越过事件视界。
To black, I never see you cross the event horizon.
在广义相对论刚出现的时候,人们就注意到了这一点,当时特别困惑,还以为你掉进事件视界的时候会感受到什么奇怪的现象。
This was noticed by by people in the early days of of general relativity and and greatly confused them, and they started to think that something you would experience something funny yourself as you fell across the event horizon.
但其实并不是这样。
That is that is not true.
事实上,如果我换到你的视角来看,你的时钟并没有变慢。
In fact, if I instead adopt the perspective of you, from your point of view, your clock isn't running slow.
它还是每秒走一秒,正常得很。
It's running at one second per second.
如果你回头看我,那边倒是有点奇怪,可能我这边的时间过得特别快。
If you look back at me, there's some some funny stuff going on to do with me me running fast, perhaps.
但对你来说,一切都很正常。
But as far as you're concerned, everything's totally normal.
你朝着黑洞加速飞去。
You accelerate towards the black hole.
越靠近黑洞,你就越快,最后平平稳稳地穿过事件视界,跟平常一样。
You're getting faster and faster and faster as you approach the black hole, and you just sail across the event horizon totally as as normal.
对你而言,事件视界并不是什么危险的地方。
The event horizon is not a particularly violent place for you.
你可以算一下穿过事件视界时,或者接近并穿过时的潮汐力,其实并不算大。
You can calculate the tidal forces as you cross the event horizon or as you approach and then across the event horizon, and they're not particularly big.
准确说,对于质量大的黑洞,潮汐力并不算强。
Or rather, for large black holes, they're not particularly big.
如果是太阳质量那么大的黑洞,潮汐力就会很强,会让你非常痛苦。
For a solar mass black hole, they they would be pretty big and would be pretty painful for you.
你会感觉到脚部受到的引力远比头部强,因为脚离黑洞更近,结果整个人被拉长了。
You'd find that the your feet are being attracted to the black hole much more vigorously than your head is because they're closer, and you end up getting stretched.
但如果我选一个足够大的黑洞,你根本不会察觉到任何异常。
But if I take a big enough black hole, you wouldn't notice anything funny happening whatsoever.
黑洞越大,潮汐效应就越小。
The bigger the black hole, the smaller the tidal effects.
如果我选一个质量相当于整个星系的黑洞,你穿过事件视界时几乎不会有任何感觉。
And if I took a black hole the mass of the galaxy, you'd be basically fine as you cross the event horizon.
如果再选一个更大的黑洞,你甚至能在穿过事件视界后,活完整个人生,直到撞上奇点——那才是致命的。
If I took an even bigger black hole than that, you could live out your entire life having crossed the event horizon with a black hole before you hit the singularity, which is fatal.
一旦你穿过事件视界,你就注定无法回头了。
When you cross the event horizon, you are doomed.
你注定无法回头,因为穿过事件视界后,你只能朝着奇点前进。
You are doomed because once you cross the event horizon, you must proceed to the singularity.
不管你用火箭怎么推进,都无法阻止自己撞上奇点。
There's no way you can fire a rocket to stop yourself, hitting the singularity.
你注定难逃一劫,但还活着。
You are doomed, but you are not dead.
你只有在撞上奇点、被潮汐力拉成意大利面、彻底碾碎的时候,才算真正死了。
You are only for sure dead once you hit the singularity and get spaghettified, get mangled by the by the tidal forces.
但对于足够大的黑洞,你即使已经注定灭亡,也可能完全察觉不到。
But for a large enough black hole, you can be doomed and not even know it.
事件视界其实不是一个局部能测量出来的概念。
The event horizon is is really a not locally measurable quantity.
它是一个具有目的性的事实。
It is a teleological fact.
它意味着一旦你跨过了事件视界,就只能朝奇点去,不过对于足够大的黑洞,这段路可能要花上很久。
It says that once you have crossed the event horizon, you must proceed to the singularity, but it can take a long time to get there for a large enough black hole.
理论上,如果你面对的是一个横跨数百光年的黑洞,你完全可以寿终正寝。
You could, in principle, for a large enough black hole, live out your entire life if you had a black hole that was many light centuries across.
你的一生完全可以正常度过。
You could live out your life.
你甚至能有后代,而且他们一生都生活在黑洞内部。
You could have descendants, all of whom live in inside the black hole.
只有当你真正接近奇点时,潮汐力才会变得足够强大,把你撕碎。
And only once you really approach the singularity do the tidal forces get strong and kill you.
正如你所说,广义相对论解释或预测了很多现象,其中一些我们认为是正确的,还有一些我们还不确定。
As you were saying, GR explains or predicts a lot of phenomenon, and some we think are correct, some we don't know are correct.
那为什么我们觉得黑洞是正确的,却不相信虫洞呢?
Why why do we think black holes are correct, but not wormholes?
是的。
Yeah.
这是个很好的问题,当初根本没人相信这回事。
That's a great question, and people did not believe it to begin with.
施瓦西在爱因斯坦提出场方程后不久,就推导出了他的解。
Schwarzschild wrote down his solution almost immediately after Einstein wrote his field equations.
当时人们觉得这个方程有点不对劲。
People thought that that equation was sick in some way.
他们认为这只是一种概率为零的极端情况,根本不可能发生。
It was a measure zero thing that would never happen.
那只是个数学上的怪胎,人们觉得在现实宇宙中不可能自然形成黑洞。
It was some mathematical monstrosity, but it was impossible to make black holes naturally in the real universe.
但他们错了,因为黑洞确实存在。
And they were wrong because black holes do exist.
我们现在非常确信。
We're extremely confident now.
既有理论上的突破,也有实验证据证明黑洞的存在。
There was theoretical developments, there was experimental evidence that black holes exist.
最大的理论突破来自彭罗斯,后来霍金和彭罗斯进一步发展了这一理论,彭罗斯也因此获得了诺贝尔奖,他们从理论上证明了黑洞的形成是广义相对论的普遍特征。
The biggest theoretical development was Penrose, and then later Hawking and Penrose, for which which he won the Nobel Prize, who showed theoretically that the formation of black holes is a generic feature of general relativity.
这并不是只有在精确调整初始条件时才会发生的异常现象,只要初始条件是普通的,黑洞的形成就是必然结果。
It's not just some sick thing that happens if you fine tune the initial conditions, that if you just start off with generic initial conditions, the development of black holes is a generic feature of that.
这可是个重大的突破。
That was a huge development.
然后还有实验方面的证据。
And then there was the experimental side.
我们现在拥有的关于黑洞的实验证据已经非常多了。
And the pieces of experimental evidence we have for black holes is now huge.
爱因斯坦那个年代根本没有任何这类证据,甚至在他之后的五十年里,人们还对黑洞充满困惑,觉得它们根本不存在。
It did not exist in Einstein's day, and for fifty years after Einstein, people were extremely confused about black holes and thought they didn't exist.
但现在已经有很多确凿的证据了。
But there's numerous pieces of evidence.
我觉得最直观的证据,就是观测我们银河系的中心。
I think the most visually appealing piece of evidence is just observing the center of our galaxy.
如果你看银河系中心——剧透一下,那里确实有个黑洞。
So if you look at the center of the galaxy, is I mean, spoiler alert, there is a black hole there.
我们把它叫做人马座A*。
We call it Sagittarius a star.
那是一个质量高达太阳好几百万倍的超大黑洞。
A huge black hole weighs many millions of times the mass of the sun.
你没法直接看到黑洞,毕竟它是黑的嘛。
You can't see the black hole, or at least you can't see it, you know, directly, because it's black.
你能看到的是围绕它的那些恒星。
What you can see is the stars around it.
如果你观察这些恒星几十年,而我们现在确实已经有了几十年的观测数据,就会发现它们的运动轨迹并不是直线,而是沿着漂亮的椭圆轨道运行,甚至有些是进动的椭圆。
If you watch these stars over the course of decades, and we now have a number of decades of observations of them, you will see the stars not moving along what we would call straight lines, instead moving in in nice little ellipses or or precessing ellipses.
这些椭圆轨道看起来像是在围绕某个东西旋转。
And those ellipses look like they are orbiting something.
你看不到那个东西本身,但你能看到围绕它运转的恒星。
You cannot see the something, but you can see the stars that are orbiting that something.
你可以计算出它的大小和质量,结果发现它质量极大,体积却极小。
And you can calculate how big is it, how massive is it, and what you find is that it's very massive indeed, and it's also very small indeed.
你知道它体积小,是因为恒星能靠得非常近,却似乎从未与它相撞。
You know it's small because the stars get super close to it but don't seem to collide with it.
通过追踪这些轨道,你可以推断出银河系中心存在一个质量极大、极其黑暗、又极度致密的天体。
And so by tracing these orbits, you can tell that there is something super heavy, super dark, and super compact at the center of that galaxy.
那就是人马座A*,我们银河系中心的黑洞。
That is Sagittarius A star, the black hole in the center of our galaxy.
这是其中一个非常有力的证据。
That's one compelling piece of evidence.
大约十年前,我们又有了另一个有力的证据——我们不仅看到了黑洞,还感受到了它们。
Another piece of compelling evidence was about a decade ago, we not only saw black holes, we felt them.
LIGO是一个巨大的激光干涉仪,我们在多个地点建造了它,对时空本身的微小震动极其敏感。
So LIGO is this huge interferometer, laser interferometer, that we built at a number of different sites that is super attuned to vibrations in spacetime itself.
就在我们2015年底刚启动它后不久,就发生了一件著名的事:我们感受到了时空的震动。
And there's a famous event pretty much immediately after we turned it on in late twenty fifteen where we felt spacetime shaking.
你知道这确实是时空在震动,而不仅仅是地球在晃动,因为我们当时已经有多个探测器,先是两个,现在有四个,分布在地球的不同位置,它们的反应完全一致。
And you knew it was spacetime shaking, not just the Earth shaking, because we had a bunch of these detectors, then two, now now four, at different points on the Earth, and they all shaped in exactly the same way.
这不可能是某处有卡车经过或发生地震,而其他地方却没有影响造成的。
So it couldn't just be explained by a truck passing one and and not the other or a seismic event on one and not the other.
所有探测器的震动模式都完全吻合,我们反向推算出,引起这种震动的是两个超大质量黑洞的碰撞——两个黑洞,每个质量都约为太阳的30倍,位于宇宙另一端,距离我们约16亿光年。
They all shook in exactly the same way, and we were able to back calculate that the thing causing them to shake was the collision of two ginormous black holes, two black holes, both of which made weight about 30 times as much as the sun on the other side of the universe, about 1,600,000,000 light years away.
这场碰撞发生在大约16亿年前,却刚好在我们启动LIGO探测器后的几周内,信号传到了地球。
That collision happened about one point six billion years ago and just happened to reach the Earth within weeks of us turning on the LEGO detectors.
我们现在不仅感受到了,更准确地说,已经观测到成千上万次这样的时空扰动,每一次都对应着一次黑洞合并。
We've now seen we've now felt more accurately thousands of such shakings corresponding to thousands of black hole mergers.
还有更多的证据。
And then there's more evidence.
后来,我们建成了事件视界望远镜,这是由遍布全球的众多射电望远镜组成的庞大网络,能够极其清晰地观测银河系中心的人马座A*黑洞,以及邻近星系中心那个更大的黑洞,捕捉到物质坠入黑洞时发出的微弱射电信号——这些物质在坠入过程中会剧烈发光,而我们正是通过这些射电信号看到了这一切。
There is a, later, we had what's called the Event Horizon Telescope, which is a ginormous conglomeration of radio telescopes all over the Earth that were able to look very closely at the black hole at the center of our galaxy, Sagittarius a star, and the black the even bigger black hole at the center of the our neighboring galaxy and see, very, very faintly, the radio emissions of matter falling into these black holes that shine super brightly as it does so, and we were able to see that in the radio emissions of these things.
所以我们感受到了它们。
So we felt them.
我们也亲眼看到了它们。
We've seen them.
我们还观测到了黑洞对周围恒星轨道产生的引力影响。
We've seen their gravitational effects on orbiting stars.
到目前为止,我们对黑洞的存在已经非常确信了。
We're extremely confident at this stage that black holes exist.
这太美妙了,不仅有人能提出这样的理论,而且这个理论的解释力如此广泛。
It's so beautiful that not only can a single mind come up with this theory, but the theory has so much reach.
而且我们还能设计出各种复杂的工具,去检验、推演并理解它在这么多不同领域中的深远影响。
And that we can come up with the machinery to evaluate and perturb and understand its implications in so many different wild ways.
从自由度的数量,到涵盖的量级范围,
It's crazy the number of degrees of freedom, the number of orders of magnitude that
简直太广了。
it covers.
你最初思考它的时候,可能只是从电梯里上下跳动的思想实验开始,接着它延伸到解释水星的轨道,探测太阳系内天体运动的微小扰动,再到光线的弯曲。
It covers you you first start thinking about it by doing thought experiments to do with jumping up and down in elevators, and then it reaches out to describe the orbit of Mercury and detectable perturbations of orbital dynamics within the solar system and then the bending of light.
然后它又解释了星系的旋转,再进一步描述了整个宇宙的膨胀以及可能的结局。
And then it describes the rotation of the galaxy, and then it describes the expansion and potential fate of the entire universe.
这确实跨越了多个数量级,而这一切竟然几乎出自一个人的头脑,实在令人惊叹。
That's many orders of magnitude indeed, and it's pretty impressive that it was the work of almost a single mind.
坦白说,我们的宇宙真该为能被如此优美的理论所描述而感到荣幸。
Frankly, our universe should be honored to be described by such a beautiful theory.
你能讲讲广义相对论是怎么从爱因斯坦的一个理论,变成全世界都接受的真理的吗?
Can you tell the story of how GR went from a theory that Einstein had to something that the world came to believe is true?
哦,对,那就是光线的弯曲。
Oh, yeah, that would be the bending of light.
其实,在那之前,牛顿物理就已经存在一些无法解释的异常现象。
So, there were known anomalies with Newton's physics beforehand.
我们一直没法精确算出水星的轨道。
We couldn't get the orbit of Mercury exactly right.
而广义相对论早期一个很漂亮的验证,就是它准确算出了水星的轨道。
And one of the very nice early tests of general relativity is that it did get the orbit of Mercury exactly right.
这算是一个相当有力的证实。
So that was a pretty good confirmation.
但同时,这也没那么让人震撼,因为你先有了一个理论,再去解释一个已经知道的数据。
But at the same time, that's not quite so satisfying because it was a number that's already known that you invent a theory, and then it correctly predicts.
真正更了不起的是,在还不知道答案的情况下,你的理论却预测对了。
It's considered more impressive if you get the right answer without knowing what the right answer is in advance.
所以,光线弯曲才是更令人信服的例子。
And so that would be the bending light.
从历史上看,这无疑是最具影响力的。
Certainly, historically, that was the most influential.
根据广义相对论,所有形式的能量都会产生引力,也会受到引力的影响。
So according to general relativity, all energy gravitates, and all energy is affected by gravity.
所以当光经过太阳这样的大质量天体时,会朝太阳的方向发生偏折。
And so light, as it's passing a massive object like the sun, will will get bent in the direction of the Sun.
其实,牛顿力学里也会出现同样的情况。
Actually, the same will happen in Newtonian physics.
如果你假设有一个粒子飞过太阳,它的偏折程度取决于它与太阳的接近距离,还有它的速度。
If you just say, suppose you have a particle going along, and you know how much it gets bent as it passes the Sun, depending on its impact parameter, but also its velocity.
速度越快,偏折就越小。
And the faster it's going, the less it gets bent.
你只要把牛顿的公式拿过来,把速度设成光速,算一下结果就行。
So you just take that Newtonian formula and you plug in velocity equal to speed of light and see what the answer you get at.
用牛顿力学算出来的偏折角度是某个特定值。
You get a certain amount of bending through Newtonian physics.
而根据广义相对论,做同样的计算,结果会是牛顿力学预测的两倍。
And general relativity, you can do the same calculation, and you actually get double the Newtonian answer.
所以这个历史过程其实有点特别。
So this was a slightly strange history of it.
在爱因斯坦还没完全写完广义相对论的时候,他就已经根据等效原理,结合自己对它的理解,提前预测了这个数值。
Before he had finished writing down general relativity, Einstein had a prediction based on what he thought was the equivalence principle, based on his understanding of the equivalence principle for what this answer should be.
于是他写下了这个预测值,随后因为他的观点引发了不少人的兴趣,陆续有团队组织远征,试图实际测量这一现象。
And so he wrote down the answer, and then in response to him and a number of other people being interested in this, there were people sending out expeditions to go and try and measure it.
其实,我印象中牛顿最早做的第一件事,就是打电话给天文台,问:你们能不能观测太阳背后遥远的恒星,测量光线经过太阳时的偏折?
Actually, I think the very first thing that Newton did is he phoned up the observatory and said, can you measure look at distant stars behind the Sun and measure how light bends as it passes the Sun?
这完全是理论物理学家的典型做法——我觉得威尔逊山天文台的台长当时直接回绝了:不可能。
And this was, you know, this was the true theorist move because the, I think the director of the Mount Wilson Observatory said, like, absolutely.
我们做不到。
We no.
我们根本办不到。
We cannot do that.
如果你把望远镜对准太阳,你就会失明。
If you point a telescope at the sun, you'll go blind.
如果你把望远镜对准太阳旁边,会被日冕的强光淹没,什么都看不到。
If you point it just next to the sun, you'll just get washed out by the corona of the sun, you won't see anything.
但有一个时候不会被太阳光淹没,那就是日全食的时候,月亮挡住了太阳,你就能看到紧贴太阳边缘的恒星,测量它们背后的光线弯曲情况。
Except there's one time when you won't get washed out by the sun, and that's during a total solar eclipse, when the moon blocks the sun and you're able to see stars very close to the sun and measure the bending of the light behind them.
所以在20世纪10年代,人们派出了很多考察队去测量光线偏折。
So during the 1910s, there was a whole bunch of expeditions sent to measure the deflection of light.
他们跑到日全食的路径上,用望远镜观测太阳旁边的恒星,看它们在天空中的位置有没有移动,以及移动了多少。
They'd go park out in the path of totality and look through telescopes at the stars right next to the sun and see if they moved in the sky, and if they moved, how much they moved.
我觉得第一次尝试是在1911年。
And I think the first one that they did was in 1911.
他们去了阿根廷观测日食,所有设备都准备好了。
They went to, Argentina for an eclipse, and then everything's set up.
这事儿的问题就在这儿。
I mean, this is the problem with this thing.
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