月经与荷尔蒙健康

里面也有卫生巾。

There's, like, pads in there too.

我还会在车里放两三片备用。

I actually also leave at least two or three in the car as well.

哦。

Oh.

放在手套箱里。

In the glove compartment.

你教了我另一个小妙招：怕漏的话，就铺条毛巾。

There's another tip and trick that I got from you, which was that when you're scared of leaking, you just put a towel down.

尤其是晚上睡觉的时候，不想弄脏床单，铺条毛巾就能避免麻烦。

Especially like on nights when you're sleeping on a bed or something like that, you don't wanna leak, just get rid of that risk by putting a towel down.

我刚来月经那会儿，就用了这个办法，那时候——十年前吧——我可是个‘漏斗’。

And for my first period that I got recently, I did the trick because back then, you know, ten years ago, was like a power leaker.

简直到处漏。

Like I was fucking leaking everywhere.

我当时特别害怕，因为发现家里所有能坐的地方都是白色的。

And And I was super scared because I realized that every single sitting surface in my house is white.

沙发是白的，餐椅是白的，床上的床单被套也全是白的。

My sofas are white, my dining chairs are white and all my linens for my bed are also white.

这也太夸张了。

That's crazy.

我当时就觉得，这大概就是宫内节育器的好处吧。

And I was like, this is IUD privilege.

没错。

Well, yeah.

我觉得最离谱的是，你所有床单都是白色的。

I felt like the craziest part of that is that all your bedsheets are white.

而且是那种纯白的。

They're like pure white too.

连被套都是这样。

And our duvet covers and everything.

天哪。

Oh my god.

是的。

Yeah.

我当时就想，我大概是没来月经，才这么做的。

I was just like, I guess this is something that I did because I didn't get my period.

我完全忘了还有漏出来的风险。

Like, I forgot about that risk of potentially leaking.

老兄，好吧。

Dude, okay.

说实话，我觉得这事儿还不只是月经漏出来的问题。

Low key, I feel like it's not even just period leaking.

对。

Mhmm.

但如果你有过经期性行为的话。

But, like, if you ever have period sex.

你不可能真的

Like, you can't be

这么做吧。

doing that.

我是不是该铺张塑料布？

Should I lay, like, a tarp down?

天哪。

Damn.

我真把这事儿给忘了。

I actually forgot about that.

就是这件事儿本身。

About the concept of that.

明白了。

Okay.

不过，我觉得我可能之前也跟你说过。

But also, I think I might have told you this as well.

我说过，经期的时候，我就喜欢用那种便宜的床单。

I said I like sometimes just have a shitty set of sheets if it's like period time.

说实话，这些我都懂。

No, honestly, all of these things make sense.

我只是得好好想想，把记忆翻出来。

And I just, you know, I have to like jog my memory.

你一说你全都是白床单、白被套，我立马看了眼自己的床，心想天哪，我现在连一条白床单都没有。

Dude, when you said you had all white sheets, duvet covers and everything, I like looked at my bed, was like, damn, I don't even own a single white sheet right now.

说实话，我第一次来月经的时候，震惊程度不比你少。

I mean, honestly, I was just as shocked as you when I got my first period.

我得把毛巾拿到沙发上。

I had to bring my towel to the sofa Uh-huh.

然后坐在毛巾上，因为实在太害怕了。

And then sit on my towel because I was so scared.

整个人都在发抖。

Was like trembling.

没事的。

It's okay.

你很快就会熟练的。

You'll become a pro in no time.

给我取环的医生，让我跟我的环说再见。

My doctor, the one who took my IUD out, she made me say bye to my IUD.

然后我就想，天啊，我都记不清来月经是什么感觉了。

And then I was like, Damn, I don't even know what it's like to have my period anymore.

她直视着我的眼睛说：别担心，你会想起来的。

She turned to look me square in the eyes and she was like, Don't worry, you'll remember.

我当时就想，

I was like,

确实如此。

that's true.

等等，这太搞笑了。

Wait, that's so funny.

你的医生年轻吗？

Was your doctor young?

是的，挺年轻的。

Yeah, young ish.

天哪，说远了，但医生现在居然比我们还年轻，这不挺奇怪的吗？

Dude, off topic, but like, isn't that crazy that doctors can be younger than us now?

别说了！

Dude, don't!

我刚从牙医那儿缓过来。

I just got over the dentist thing.

我上一位妇科医生特别年轻，精力旺盛，我当时就想，我只是做个宫颈刮片而已。

My last gynecologist was like super young and like high energy and I was like, I'm just getting like a pap smear.

这很平常啊。

It's chill.

没必要这么激动。

No need to- no need to be so excited.

每年医生都越来越年轻，我就在想：天啊，我是不是真的在变老？

Every year the doctors get younger and I'm just like, Damn, am I getting older?

老兄，说真的，我的主治医生我已经看很多年了。

Dude, actually, so my primary care person, I've had her for a really long time.

从高中快毕业的时候就开始找她看诊了。

I've had her since, like, I think end of high school.

去年我去复诊，看着她，突然就愣住了，天哪。

Last year, I think it was, I had an appointment with her, and I was like, I just looked at her, was like, oh my god.

我刚认识她的时候，她真的特别年轻。

When I first got her, she was really young.

那时候她应该刚毕业没多久。

Think she was like freshly graduated.

可去年我再看她，心想：你早就不是那个刚毕业的小姑娘了。

And I looked at her like last year, was like, my god, you're not that young, like fresh grad anymore.

我总觉得我找的医生都比我还大。

I feel like I've always had older doctors.

但最近我那位全科医生休产假了，或者类似的情况。

But recently, my PCP was out on mat leave or something.

所以我只好去找了一位年轻医生，她特别有活力。

So then I had to go in and see a young doctor who is also very high energy.

我看着她，心想：天啊，这脸庞我平时在那种酒吧里才见得到。

And I was looking at her and I was like, damn, this is like a face that I would see at like one of those bars we go to or something.

你懂我的意思吧？在这种场合看到她，真是有点怪怪的。

Know what I'm Like it's so weird to see you in this kind of environment.

是的。

Yeah.

不过我有个问题。

Okay, but I do have a question.

除了来月经之外，取了宫内节育器后，你觉得最大的变化是什么？

What has been maybe like the biggest single change from getting your IUD out besides like having a period?

所以很难说清楚，这些变化里有多少是心理作用。

So it's kind of hard to tell like how much of this is placebo or not.

我觉得每个人用宫内节育器的体验都差很多。

I think everyone's experience with the IUD is so different.

但对我来说，宫内节育器让我长痘，还让身体有点水肿。

But for me, I think the IUD was giving me acne and also giving me a little bit of swelling.

所以我发现取出来之后，身上的水肿明显减轻了。

So I noticed that when I took the IUD out, a lot of my swelling went down.

我能感觉到身体某些特定部位的变化。

I can feel it in very specific parts of my body.

我小时候，我姑姑教过我一种淋巴按摩的方法。

There's like this lymph node massage that my aunt taught me to do when I was really young.

我偶尔还是会做一做。

From time to time I would do it.

这说法其实挺老派的，你别去查证啊。

Okay, this is like also old wives' tale, so don't fact check me.

她说，如果你按耳朵下面、下巴和脖子交界的地方，要是特别疼，说明你身体水肿厉害，或者淋巴结肿了，得把毒素排出去。

But she would say that if you press like the area right under your ears and kind of like where your jaw meets your neck, it hurts a lot if you're really bloated or maybe like your lymph nodes are swollen or something and you just have like something you need to flush out.

但如果你没做，就完全感觉不到任何变化。

But if you don't, it doesn't feel like anything.

以前这地方疼了整整好几年。

And it used to hurt so bad for like years.

我偶尔会试着按摩，但疼得厉害，每次只能轻轻碰一下。

And I would like try to massage it out from time to time but it would be so painful and I could only do it like a little bit at a time.

摘掉宫内节育器之后，就不疼了。

After I took the IUD out, it doesn't hurt anymore.

哦。

Oh.

我不确定这说法有多科学，但确实有改善，我能明显感觉到身体的变化。

And I was like, unsure how factual it is, but it made a difference and I can like feel it in my body.

那挺好。

That's good.

所以我觉得，不管是炎症还是淋巴结那块，都缓解了一些。

So yeah, I think the inflammation for both acting and like the lymph node area went down a little bit.

我就是觉得整个人更像个人了，说不上来。

I just feel a little bit more human or something.

我也说不清。

I don't know.

任何变化对我影响都挺大的。

Well, think any sort of change affects me like a lot.

所以我对这些改变特别敏感。

So I feel very affected by the change.

明白了。

Okay.

另一个问题是，你有没有发现什么明显的迹象，能让你确定某个症状跟月经直接相关？

Another question is, is there any like telltale sign for you yet where you know this, like, certain symptom is directly related to your period?

比如我就有几个。

For example, I have, like, a couple.

一个是来月经前和期间，我会特别累。

One is I get really tired on my period and leading up to my period.

所以当我早上特别难起床的时候，我就知道是快来了。

So when it's, like, really hard for me to wake up in the morning, I'm like Yeah.

说实话，那个

Yo, low key, that

月经要来了。

period's coming.

而且我觉得因为经期容易累，所以那段时间我能吃更多，你懂吧。

And then I think because I'm fatigued during my period, I can, like, eat more on my period, if that makes sense.

就是感觉能吃下更多分量。

Like, I feel like I could eat bigger portions.

是的。

Mhmm.

明白。

Okay.

这不太好，因为我处在黄体期的时候，简直像在狂吃。

That's not good because I was in my luteal phase and I was, like, vacuuming up some food.

我当时就想，可能是因为我处在黄体期，胃口变大了。

And I was like, maybe this is because I'm on my luteal phase and I just have a bigger appetite.

不是。

No.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得我胃口大是因为那段时间特别累。

I think I have a big appetite because I'm extra tired during that period.

取环之后我只来过一次，现在离第二次快两天了。

I've only had it once since I got it taken out and I'm like two days away from my second one.

不过我得说，第一次来之前，我肚子疼，有点像便秘，又有点像经前的腹痛，我觉得是后者。

But I will say that before my first one, I had like this stomach pain where it was kind of a mix of being constipated and also pre period stomach pain, I think.

那种感觉特别熟悉。

It just felt very familiar.

明明都已经十年没来月经了。

Despite it having been ten years since my last period.

我一看到这肚子疼，马上就认出来了。

I was like, I know this stomach pain.

结果你猜怎么着？就在那天晚上，或者第二天早上，真的来事儿了。

And then lo and behold, literally that night or maybe like the next morning or something, had the, you know, period shit.

然后我就不便秘了。

And I was no longer constipated.

我当时就想，哦，明白了。

And I was like, okay, yeah.

这感觉我太熟悉了。

I knew this was a familiar feeling.

就是快来月经前的那种感觉。

It's like right before you get your period.

是的。

Yeah.

一切都在酝酿中。

Things are brewing.

是的。

Yeah.

等等，我问一下。

Okay, wait.

你以前月经持续多久？

How long did you have your period before?

我觉得大概持续了五年左右。

I think I had it for like five years.

哦，原来如此。

Oh, okay.

所以你之前一直有这个情况。

So you had it for a good while.

现在你得重新适应这一切了。

Now you're just like re learning all of that.

对。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

我之前持续了五年，然后停了十年，现在又会再持续几年。

Five years, off for ten years, and then now I'll have it again for another few years.

几年。

Few years.

你打算什么时候进入更年期？

When are you planning on hitting menopause?

嗯，我不确定。

Well, I don't know.

我觉得等我生完孩子，就再把宫内节育器放回去。

I feel like once I have a kid, I would put the IUD in again.

哦，明白了。

Oh, okay.

有道理。

Fair.

因为你不想不小心又怀上孩子。

Because you don't wanna accidentally pop out more kids.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

我正在考虑这个想法。

I'm toying with the idea.

所以我现在想好好享受经期。

That's why I'm trying to enjoy my period.

我明白了。

I see.

你觉得这日子不会一直持续下去。

You're like, it's not gonna be here forever.

这跟我自己简直太不一样了，因为每次来月经，我都会想，天啊，未来几十年里，我还要经历上百次这样的事。

That's such a stark contrast from myself because sometimes on my period, I look at myself and I'm like, dude, I'm gonna experience this for like 12 times for x amount of years into the future forever.

说实话，因为我最近开始享受月经了，虽然只来了一次，但我真的挺享受的。

Mean, honestly though, because I've been enjoying my period, I've had one period, but I've been enjoying it.

我考虑过，等我们有了孩子之后，试试放铜环。

I was thinking about maybe getting the copper IUD after we have our kid.

这样我还能保留正常的生理周期，更了解自己的身体，又不用吃激素类避孕药。

That way I'll still have my cycle and whatnot and be more in tune with it without having hormonal birth control.

对。

Right.

你现在停了激素类避孕药，觉得和以前有什么不一样吗？

Do you feel like having that hormonal birth control was different now that you're off of it?

我觉得是有点不一样。

I think it was.

我只是想重新摸清自己的身体状态，毕竟我也不太记得不靠激素避孕时是什么感觉了。

I guess I'm just trying to establish my baseline again because I also don't really know what it's like to not have hormonal birth control.

我特别想了解一下各种不同的避孕方式，因为我之前只用过口服避孕药和激素宫内节育器。

And I'm just very interested in exploring like different types of birth control because again, I've really only done the pill and the hormonal IUD.

我知道现在市面上其实有很多其他选择。

And I know there's a lot of different options out there now.

你对激素类避孕方式感到害怕吗？

Do you feel like you feel scared about hormonal birth control?

你对激素和非激素避孕方式有什么看法吗？

Or do you have any, like, opinions on hormonal versus non hormonal?

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得自己确实有点害怕激素类避孕方式。

I guess I feel, like, kind of scared about hormonal birth control.

因为我会想，万一激素让我变成另一个人怎么办？

Because I'm like, what if the hormones make me a different person?

所以我之前短暂地试过口服避孕药。

So I did briefly do the pill for a bit.

我第一次吃的那种药，还行。

The first pill that I got, it was okay.

吃的时候也没觉得特别难受。

I didn't feel, like, too bad on it.

但我一直担心它带来的额外健康风险。

But I kept freaking out about the extra health risks.

对。

Mhmm.

比如，得血栓的概率会高很多，

Like, you're way more prone to blood clots and,

还有，

like,

各种这类问题。

all of that stuff.

我第一次吃药的时候，真的吓到 panic 了，心想：天啊，我是不是马上要得血栓了。

I'd literally had, like, a panic attack the first time I took a pill because I was like, dude, I'm about to get a blood clot.

天哪。

Oh my god.

你感觉它要来了。

You're like, it's coming.

我有感觉了。

I feel it.

我

I

后来我换过一次药，因为搬家了，只好换一家药房或者别的供应商拿药。

switched pills at one point because I moved, and so I had to get it from a different, like, supplier or whatever or, like, a pharmacy or whatever.

结果第二种药简直把我搞垮了。

And that second one, like, fucked me up.

我焦虑得特别厉害。

I was getting really, really bad anxiety.

身体特别不舒服。

I felt really uncomfortable in my body.

那种感觉就像是全身都紧绷着，真的特别难受。

It was almost like this tightness all throughout my body and it was really just not good.

于是我立刻停了，再也没用过。

So then I immediately stopped and never went back.

真够呛。

Damn.

所以我对宫内节育器的担心就是，它真的就在你身体里。

So then my fear in IUD is, like, in you.

万一你感觉特别不舒服，可那东西还牢牢地在你体内呢？

So, like, what if you feel like shit and it's just, like, in you?

你不可能自己把它硬拽出来。

You can't just, like, rip it out.

你得专门跑医院，让医生帮你取出来，挺麻烦的。

You have to, like, go to the doctors and, like, get it taken out and stuff.

说实话，只要一听到‘荷尔蒙’这个词，不管是吃药、植入物还是宫内节育器，都让人觉得特别害怕。

I think honestly like whenever the word hormonal exists and something that you have to like take or ingest or you know put into your body whether that's an IUD or implant like it feels so scary.

我觉得这个词一半是禁忌，另一半又确实意味着身体会经历一些真实的变化。

I feel like it's half a taboo word and half you know, there are real changes that you'll see your body go through.

所以没错，我能理解为什么这会让人害怕。

So yeah, I can definitely empathize with it being scary.

对我而言，很长一段时间里好处都大于风险，但我知道很多人在避孕方式上都得不断尝试、不断调整。

Like for me, I think the benefits outweighed the risks for a long time, but I know for a lot of there's this trial and error process that you have to do with birth control.

这确实是最让人头疼的部分。

And that's like the shittiest part.

你不能随便选一种，就觉得它肯定合适。

Like you can't just take one and be like, yeah, this will probably be good.

你得等完整的一个周期。

You have to wait for the full cycle.

然后才发现，哎，感觉真的很糟。

And then you're like, actually, I feel like shit.

这可不是我单纯在害怕。

And this is not just me being scared.

然后你还得再把它排干净。

And then you have to like flush it out again.

所以这些事情，我觉得我们女性都得经历。

So there's all these things that I think we have we as women have to go through.

是的。

Yeah.

最后我就想，算了。

So in the end, I was like, you know what?

管他呢。

Fuck it.

与其面对可能的身体变化，

Instead of dealing with potential change

好。

Mhmm.

我就干脆来大姨妈吧。

I'm just gonna have a period.

从那以后已经十年了。

And it's been ten years since.

是的。

Yeah.

但我觉得正因如此，你两次经历这种转变，其实更不容易，你说是吧？

But I feel like because of that, it's, like, extra, I guess, brave that you went through that change two times if you think about it.

第一次是放了宫内节育器，经历那段适应期，得慢慢接受和重新认识自己。

The first time was getting the IUD and experiencing that change and a period of time where you have to wait it out and like normalize and relearn yourself.

而现在，你又要把它取出来了。

And then now you're like getting off of it.

这又是一次重大的变化。

It's another big change again.

我算幸运，放节育器期间没怎么出现不良反应。

Yeah, I guess I was lucky that I didn't have too many adverse side effects or anything with the IUD.

我觉得挺有意思的是，吃避孕药的时候，几乎每天都在做决定，要继续坚持避孕这条路。

I think the funny thing about an IUD, I think to an extent when you're taking the pill, it's almost like a daily choice to like stay on the path of birth control.

就像每天早上，不管你设几点闹钟，都得按时吃药。

It's like every morning at whatever time you choose your alarm to be, you have to like pop the pill.

是的。

Yeah.

但宫内节育器呢，七年才管一次，你知道的。

But for an IUD, it's like once every seven years, you know?

所以你根本就把它抛到脑后了。

So you really just like forget about it, I think.

这点还挺不错的。

That's kind of the nice part.

不过，能重新回到自己的生理周期，我真的很期待。

But yeah, it is exciting to be back into my hormonal cycle.

我想重新了解女性荷尔蒙健康，好好调整身体，迎接接下来的一切——哪怕有点让人害怕。

I'm excited to like understand female hormonal health again and just like gear my body up for what's next to come as scary as it is.

你对经期这么有经验，平时有没有什么特别的习惯？比如经期前后做点小仪式，或者有什么小技巧可以分享？

But because you're such a veteran in the period world, do you have any other things that you like to do, whether it's like, you know, a mini ritual you might do on your periods or like ways to prepare or any other tips and tricks?

有一件事我得说说，我不确定它到底有多有效，但听说覆盆子叶茶对女性荷尔蒙健康、生殖系统和子宫都有好处。

Oh, there is this one thing and I don't know if, like, how truly effective or whatever it is, but apparently raspberry leaf tea is pretty good for female hormonal health, like, reproductive health, your uterus health, I guess.

反正我每次月经头一两天都会喝一杯。

Anyway, what I do is the first day or two of my period, I always drink a cup.

我还看到过建议说，月经期间会流失血液，所以可以多吃点红肉，或者菠菜这类天然含铁丰富的食物，补补铁。

I also saw something like you wanna have more iron because you're technically losing blood out of So your on your period, might wanna increase your red meat intake or, you know, things like spinach or other, like, naturally high iron foods as well.

确实如此。

Oh yeah, so true.

我觉得亚洲人普遍容易贫血。

I feel like especially because Asians tend to have, like, anemia.

不知道为什么，我们这一族群好像特别容易缺铁。

For some reason, our population is, like, susceptible to anemia.

是的。

Yeah.

所以月经期间我们感觉特别吃力。

So I feel like we feel it extra hard on our period.

天啊，难怪我总是这么累。

Dude, maybe that's why I'm exhausted all the time.

真的，有可能。

Dude, maybe, honestly.

我妈妈总说，经期要吃这个。

My mom's always like, eat this for your period

对健康有好处。

health.

你妈才是真行家啊。

Damn, your mom's the true veteran, dude.

等等。

Wait.

确实如此。

So true.

不过说真的，她可能忘了不少，毕竟更年期都好多年了。

Wait, but actually, she might have forgotten a lot because she went through menopause a while ago.

哦。

Oh.

不过她那时候这么做真的挺搞笑的，因为她正在清理浴室。

It was really funny when she did though because during that time, I think she was just cleaning out her bathroom.

她说：‘水晶，我找到一堆卫生巾。’

And she was like, Oh Crystal, I found all these pads.

你要不要？

Do you want them?

我反正用不着了。

Because I don't need them anymore.

我当时就说：‘天啊。’

I was like, Damn.

真幸运。

Lucky.

她总算熬过去了。

She graduated.

她早就经历过这些了。

She's been there, done that.

这也跟我身为亚洲人的背景有关，我妈妈经常跟我说这些。

This is also what I attribute to being an Asian thing because it's like what my mom tells me all the time.

她说，来月经的时候，别吃太凉的东西。

But she's like, oh, when you're on your period, you should avoid eating cold things.

应该吃点热的或者温热的食物。

You should eat, like, hot things or warm things.

你知道，这跟中医讲的‘气’有关，比如胃里寒气太重，而胃又离子宫这些生殖器官很近，寒气重了就会让经痛更厉害。

You know, it has to do with all that, like, qi and, like, the Chinese medicine kind of thing where it's like, if you have cold energy in your stomach because it's so close to your reproductive organs, like your uterus and all of that, that cold energy will cause you to cramp more and, like, be in more pain.

是的。

Mhmm.

所以我尽量不吃冰的或者喝冰的。

So I just I try to avoid ice cold food and or drinks.

是的。

Mhmm.

我觉得这样确实有点帮助，也许吧？

And I feel like it does help, maybe?

或者这其实只是心理作用？

Or maybe it's placebo?

我一直挺困惑的，因为在西方媒体里，女生来月经时都大口吃冰淇淋。

And I was always confused about this because in, like, Western media, everyone on their period eats a tub of ice cream.

对吧！

Right!

你这么说还真有道理。

You're so right actually.

是的。

Yeah.

你会觉得，不行，这会伤气血。

You're like, Nope, that's bad for the energy.

我倒是好奇，亚洲影视作品里，女生来月经时会吃巧克力吗？

I feel like the only common thread that I've seen actually, do Asians eat chocolate on their period in like Asian media?

哦，这个我其实不太清楚。

Oh, I actually don't know about that.

但我听说经期吃巧克力对身体有好处。

But I have heard that chocolate is good for you on

你的经期。

your Yeah.

我总觉得有个老套情节，就是女朋友来月经时，男朋友总会带着冰淇淋和巧克力出现。

And I feel like it's always like the common trope of, oh, girl, friend on her periods with a guy shows up with ice cream and like a chocolate bar or something.

是的。

Yeah.

现在我就在想，亚洲人经期都吃啥？

Now I'm like, what do the Asians eat?

老兄，说不定他们该带点牛肉干和巧克力去。

Dude, maybe they should be showing up with like beef jerky and like chocolate.

宝贝，我听说你来月经了，所以给你带了一大袋菠菜。

Babe, I heard you're on your period so I brought a whole bag of spinach.

或者，我今晚特意给我们做了一大块牛排。

Or, like, I made us this, like, giant steak for dinner tonight.

我们确实该把媒体里那些不实的刻板印象改一改，换成更贴近事实的表达。

We have to change some of the tropes in media with the more factually based things.

在结束这期节目之前，我有个最后的问题想问你。

Well, before we wrap up this episode, I have a final question for you.

你平时怎么看待自己的月经？

How would you describe your relationship with your period?

哦，就是它来了嘛。

Oh, it's just like there.

其实这正好能联系到中文里，特别是普通话中，人们对月经的俗称。

Actually, I think this ties in well with what a period is colloquially called in Chinese, in Mandarin specifically.

我妈妈教过我，我觉得其实有好多种说法，但我和我妈平时主要用两种：一种是‘那个来了’。

My mom taught me, and I think there's actually, like, a ton of different ways to say this, but the the two main ways that I say it with my mom is, oh, that thing is here.

另一种是‘咱们家最年长的姑姑来串门了’。

And then the second way is, like, our oldest aunt is visiting.

哎呀。

Aw.

好可爱啊。

That's so cute.

那个说法可比‘我们大姑来了’冷淡多了。

That thing is so, like, so much less friendly than, oh, our oldest aunt.

对啊。

Yeah.

我觉得‘那个东西’更准确的直译其实是‘任务来了’。

So I think that thing is like, maybe the more accurate direct translation is it's almost like that task is here.

哦。

Oh.

中文里说的就是‘来了’。

So the Chinese phrase is like, by shi le.

‘来’这个词，我念得像‘来’，但其实是‘事’，在工作场合可以指任务，也可以指你得处理或要做的事。

And shi or like, I say it like shi, but shiching, it can be translated as tasks sometimes in a work environment, or it can be like something you need to deal with or like something you need to do.

是的，我脑子里总觉得，哎，这事儿在这儿呢。

Yeah, I guess in my head it's kind of like, oh, that thing is here.

你懂的。

You know?

就是咱们得处理的那档子事。

The thing we have to deal with.

对。

Yeah.

明白了。

I see.

所以这就像个每月都要做的任务，一种每月的义务。

So it's like a monthly task, a monthly obligation.

是啊。

Yeah.

差不多吧。

Kind of.

这就像是生活里的一部分，时不时就冒出来，有好有坏吧。

It's like just like some part of life that comes It's every like pros and cons kind of.

就像我之前说的，我有时候会拿这个当借口。

Because how I mentioned, I'll use it as an excuse sometimes.

是的。

Yeah.

这可是个挺普遍的借口，你知道的。

It's a pretty universal excuse, you know.

有时候我就说，兄弟，我不想出门，因为我来月经了。

Sometimes I'm like, dude, I don't wanna hang out because I'm on my period.

对啊。

Right.

或者跟妈妈说，你别让我做家务，我正来月经呢。

Or like, mom, you can't make me do chores because I'm on my period.

哦，今天流得太多，我就不去锻炼了，诸如此类的理由。

Oh, I shouldn't work out because, you know, today's heaviest flow or something like that.

确实。

True.

而且谁能怪你呢？

And who can blame you for that?

没错。

Exactly.

所以我觉得这借口挺好用，但你也得硬着头皮熬过最难受的那几天。

So I feel like it's a good excuse, but it's also definitely something that you're just like, ugh, I have to, like, power through this for the next the worst few days.

所以你之前提到的那个中文说法，是的。

So the other phrase that you referred to in Mandarin Yeah.

把月经叫做“大姨妈”。

Called your period your oldest aunt.

那你有没有也感受到月经带来的那种感觉呢？

So do you ever feel like you feel that side of the period as well?

就像觉得有个家里的长辈，或者一位老朋友要来串门一样？

Like you feel like an old family member, like an old friend is coming to town?

好吧。

Okay.

但我认为这么说的潜台词并不是把它当成朋友来访。

But I think the implication for that one is not necessarily that it's a friend visiting.

我觉得更像是公婆来了，或者奶奶登门，又或者那位特定的阿姨到了。

I think it's like, oh, like, the in laws are in or grandma's visit or, you know, like, that one aunt is here.

当然也不是什么天大的坏事，但你就是得额外多做点事，比如——

And it's like, of course, it's not like the worst thing ever, but it's like, oh, I have to, like, do some extra steps to, like,

招待这位客人。

host this visiting person.

天啊，把月经拟人化简直太搞笑了。

Dude, something about personifying your period is hilarious.

就像有个人专程来你家做客一样。

Like someone coming to town to visit or something.

你立马就想：得，赶紧把屋子收拾一下。

You're like, Oh, let me clean the house.

是的

Yeah.

给你打扫浴室。

Clean the bathroom for you.

趁现在赶紧把所有事情做完，等来月经的时候就能瘫在沙发上。

Let me do all my tasks now so when I'm on my period, I can just lie on the couch.

没错。

True.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得我和月经的关系，就像一位很久没见的老朋友。

Well, I think my relationship with my period is like an old friend who I haven't seen in a long time.

我们正在重新建立关系，但我还是挺期待她每个月都来一趟的。

And we're starting our relationship anew, but I am still excited for her to visit on a monthly basis.

好的。

Okay.

等一下。

Wait.

其实我还有个问题想问你。

Actually, I have another question for you.

是吗？

Yeah?

你现在来月经了，那詹姆斯是不是也得承担更多责任？

You having your period now, does that mean James has more responsibility now too?

哦。

Oh.

就是说，他得多照顾你一下，在你特别不舒服的那几天多帮点忙。

Like, he has to step up and take care of you on your period, help out a little extra during those like tougher days.

说实话，是的。

Honestly, yeah.

这倒是个不想做饭的好理由。

It's definitely a good excuse not to cook I think.

对，比如他得带着牛肉干和巧克力出现。

Yeah, like he needs to show up with beef jerky and chocolate.

没错。

Right.

你知道的，我会让他听听这期节目。

You know, I'll have him listen to this episode.

比如，这就是我现在的日常生活。

Like, here's my new life now.

我通常都让我男朋友去买卫生巾。

I always employ my boyfriend to, like, go out and buy pads for me.

哦。

Oh.

对。

Yeah.

我是说，只有在他有空或者方便的时候才行。

I mean, only when when he can or when it's convenient.

对。

Mhmm.

我让他把我要的牌子都背下来。

I made him memorize, like, the brand I get.

还让他仔细看是什么类型。

Made him look at, like, what type.

因为你知道，有夜用、日用、护垫，各种各样的。

Because, you know, there's, like, a bunch, like, overnight, regular, and, like, liners, all of that stuff.

有时候他还得帮我找卫生巾。

Sometimes he has to go look for my pads for me.

我每次都会想到这事。

And I always think about it.

我就想，真是的。

I'm like, damn.

男生去买卫生巾的时候，我总觉得，这其实有点像在秀恩爱。

When guys buy pads, I feel like low key, it's like a flex almost.

哦，就像一种荣誉徽章似的。

Oh, like a badge of honor.

对。

Yeah.

没人会因为买卫生巾而去嘲笑他们。

No one's gonna shit on them for buying pads.

他们还会说，哦，真的吗？

They're like, oh, what?

简直就是个贴心男友。

Like a sweet boyfriend.

没错。

True.

确实如此。

True.

是的。

Yeah.

尤其是他出门时顺手买点巧克力。

Especially if he grabs, like, some chocolate on the way out.

他们就会说，瞧瞧他多贴心。

They're like, oh, look at him.

真是个天使。

Such an angel.

是的。

Yeah.

但要是女生买卫生巾，大家就会说，哎呀，真麻烦。

But then when a girl buys pads, it's like, oh, damn.

她要来月经了。

She's about to have her period.

我们都会摇头，彼此心照不宣。

We all, like, shake our heads in solidarity.

对。

Yeah.

真是可怜啊。

Like, poor thing.

所以詹姆斯得提前准备一下，学学怎么用这些经期用品。

So I guess James should prepare, you know, learn learn some of your period products.

是的。

Yeah.

我们一块儿学。

We're learning together.

但我这儿什么都有两百多件，估计他明年才能懂。

But because I have fucking like 200 of everything, I guess he'll learn next year.

他就会问：

He's like,

这个牌子和那个牌子用起来感觉有什么不一样？

how did how does that brand feel versus that brand?

你告诉我一声。

Let me know.

我就说，我也不清楚。

I'm like, I don't know.

老兄，他们真该出个试用装组合。

Dude, they should make like sampler packs.

等等。

Wait.

这主意还挺不错的。

That would be kind of nice.

是啊。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

因为买一整包有时候真挺有压力的。

Because like buying one pack sometimes is a big commitment.

一整包卫生巾起码能用一到两个周期。

One full pack of pads is gonna probably last you like one to two periods at least.

没错。

Right.

然后你就彻底陷进去了。

And then you're just all in.

要是你不喜欢怎么办？

Like, what if you didn't like it?

第一款不合心意，结果还剩一整包，三十多个呢。

You didn't like the first one, and now you have a whole pack of, like, 30 still.

你还亏了二十多块。

And you're down, like, $20

或者差不多吧。

or whatever.

是啊。

Yeah.

他们真该推出一些试用装。

They need to make some, like, discovery packs

用来做卫生巾的试用装。

for pads.

等等。

Wait.

这话说得真对。

That's so right.

就应该只选七种。

It should just be seven.

经期那一周，每种品牌试一试，选七种就够了。

Seven different brands for, like, you know, the period week.

对。

Right.

没错。

Right.

就是这样。

Exactly.

非常感谢你，Jisoo，和我们分享了你来月经的经历。

Thank you so much, Jisoo, for sharing your period journey.

你的月经经历？

Your re period journey?

你的经历？

Your re journey?

我觉得挺有意思的是，看看你现在怎么应对，和当年高中刚来月经的时候相比。

And I think it's interesting to see how you're navigating it now versus back in high school when we were first getting our period.

每次看你重新经历这段少女时期，都特别有意思。

So it's always fun to see you go through your second girlhood experience.

对我们的听众来说，如果你有什么关于月经的小贴士想分享给Jisoo，欢迎告诉我们。

And for our listeners out there, if you have any tips and tricks for Jisoo to collect about periods, feel free to let us know.

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