Ryan Nece (Next Legacy Partners) - Learning from Achievement and Adversity

这是由斯坦福eCorner和斯坦福科技创业项目联合推出的《创业思想领袖》系列。

This is the Entrepreneurial Thought Leaders series, brought to you by Stanford eCorner and the Stanford Technology Ventures Program.

大家好。

Hello, everyone.

我叫Emily Ma，是斯坦福科技创业项目的兼职讲师。

My name is Emily Ma, and I'm an adjunct lecturer for the Stanford Technology Ventures Program.

欢迎再次回到思想领袖系列。

Welcome back to the Thought Leader series.

斯坦福科技创业项目每周三都会举办这场活动。

The Stanford Technology Ventures Program hosts it every Wednesday.

今天我特别高兴能邀请到瑞安·尼西和我们在一起。

Today, I'm so thrilled to have Ryan Nece with us.

让我们用热烈的掌声欢迎瑞安。

Huge round of applause for Ryan.

好的。

Okay.

先简单介绍一下背景。

So a quick bio here.

瑞安·尼西是Next Legacy的联合创始人兼管理合伙人，这是一家多策略风险投资平台，投资于成熟的风投机构、新兴风投机构以及精选科技公司。

Ryan Nece is the co founder and managing partner of Next Legacy, a multi strategy venture platform investing in established venture firms, emerging venture firms, and select technology companies.

Next Legacy的模式建立在信任关系和严谨的资本管理之上，同时为职业运动员等群体拓展接触科技与私募市场的机会。

Next Legacy's model is built on trusted relationships and disciplined capital stewardship while expanding access to technology and private markets for communities such as professional athletes.

这家公司处于风险投资、创业、体育和慈善的交汇点，让瑞安和他的合伙人对创新经济拥有独特的视角。

The firm sits at the nexus of venture capital, entrepreneurship, sport, and philanthropy, giving Ryan and his partners a unique vantage point within the innovation economy.

Next Legacy相信，卓越的投资回报才能带来最大的慈善影响力。

Next Legacy believes that best in class returns drive the greatest charitable impact.

虽然平台上的大多数基金都采用标准的风险投资模式，但该公司旗舰基金的所有收益都会捐给慈善事业。

While most funds on its platform operate with standard venture economics, all returns from the firm's flagship fund are donated to philanthropic causes.

瑞安曾是超级碗冠军，后来从职业体育转型创业，创办并发展了多家企业，之后联合创立了Next Legacy。

A former Super Bowl champion, Ryan transitioned from professional sports to entrepreneurship, founding and scaling multiple businesses before co founding Next Legacy.

他定居在加利福尼亚州波尔托拉谷，为风投生态带来了独特的领导力、运营经验与广泛的人脉资源。

Based in Portola Valley, California, he brings a distinctive combination of leadership, operating experience, and network depth to the venture ecosystem.

好吧，我真是太兴奋了。

Okay, I'm so thrilled.

我等这场对话等了两个月，不过咱们还是从头开始吧。

I've been waiting for this chat for two months, but we're going to start from square one.

好的。

Okay.

往回说。

Go back.

那咱们就往回讲。

So we're going go back.

咱们从头说起。

We're going to go back.

顺便说一下，Ryan的妈妈今天也来现场了，这太棒了。

By the way, Ryan's mom is here in the audience with us, which is amazing.

哦对，来点掌声吧。

Oh yeah, round of applause.

大家鼓掌。

Round of applause.

她是家里的智囊。

She's oracle to the family.

没错。

That's right.

没错。

That's right.

好，我们回到你小时候。

Okay, we're gonna go back to when you were a wee lad.

对。

Yes.

你那时候还是个小孩。

We lad.

你父母都很了不起，其中一位还是NFL名人堂成员。

You were the son of two amazing parents, one of whom is a hall of famer in the NFL.

是的。

Yes.

德沃尼。

Devonnie.

德沃尼·洛特。

Devonnie Lott.

能跟我们说说，看着父亲每天在球场上、在聚光灯下坚持出场，你当时那种求知若渴的感觉是怎样的吗？

Tell us what it was like to be so curious in learning from your father, showing up as he did on the field, in the spotlight, day in and day out.

首先，我要谢谢您，艾米丽。

Well, first, let me say thank you, Emily.

谢谢您让我有机会来到这里。

Thank you for allowing me to be here.

谢谢您给我这个机会。

Thank you for giving me the opportunity.

我知道这是最后一节课了。

I know this is the last class.

所以我真的很感激能来到这里。

And so I'm really grateful to be here.

你们这个课程、这个项目、这个播客所取得的一切成就，真的太了不起了。

All the things that you've accomplished with this class, with this program, with the podcast, really incredible.

非常感谢你们给我这个机会，能和你们在一起。

So thank you for the honor to be here with you.

我也特别兴奋。

So I'm excited too.

我真的很珍惜这个机会。

I really appreciate the opportunity.

当你想到那个问题时，它确实很重要，因为那正是我今天成为这样一个人的根基。

You know, when you think about that question, it really is an important one because it is a lot of the foundation of who I am today.

每天都能近距离接触伟大，看到他在聚光灯之外如何行事，这是一种荣幸。

Having the opportunity to be in the presence of greatness on a day to day basis and watching how it operates outside of the spotlight was a privilege.

看着我父亲对待他事业的态度，他追求极致的专注，这让我相信，所谓不可能的事，其实也是可以做到的。

And watching the way that my father approached his craft, his dedication to being the very best, you know, that helped shape me into thinking that an impossible was possible.

最让我印象深刻的是，我从父亲身上很快明白，成功是有代价的，需要做出巨大的牺牲。在座的大多数人或许都能说出自己的梦想、目标和愿望，但很少有人能真正讲清楚，为了实现这些，自己愿意放弃什么、承受多少痛苦。而我有幸亲眼见证了父亲承受的种种艰辛，我来举个例子。

And what's amazing is quickly learned through my father that success comes at a cost, and success comes at making tremendous sacrifices, and most people in this room probably could articulate their dreams, goals, their aspirations, what they want to achieve, but very few may have the opportunity to truly express what they're willing to give up to achieve those things, what pain they're willing to endure, and I got a chance to see my father endure a lot, and I'll give you an example.

很多人不知道的是，我父亲除了拿过四次超级碗、入选名人堂，被公认为NFL历史上最伟大的球员之一，这些大家都知道。

You know, a lot of people don't know that my father, they know that he had won four Super Bowls, is in the Hall of Fame, arguably one of the greatest NFL players of all time, people know that.

但没人知道他还是个黑带二级。

They don't know he's a second degree black belt.

他认真钻研这门技艺，学习武术，这些经历不仅锻炼了他的身体，更锤炼了他的心智。

He studied that craft, he studied martial arts, and the things that he learned through that helped train his mind as much as it did his body.

以至于我记得有一次去参加他的训练课。

So much so that I remember going to one of his training sessions.

那天他在训练时有个教练，教练正带着他做一套常规动作和练习。

And as I was at this training session he had a sensei, and his sensei was taking him through a normal routine and a normal exercise.

教练手里拿着一根竹棍，一边走一边问他：‘罗尼，今天练多少下？’

And the sensei had this bamboo stick in his hand as he was walking around talking to my father and he said what's the number today Ronnie?

他说，好像是七下或者八下，具体数字我记不清了。

And he said, I think he picked eight or seven, I don't remember the exact number.

他说很好，接着继续训练，突然问：‘你准备好了吗？’

He said great, and so he's going through his training, and then all of a sudden he said are you ready?

然后那名教练拿起竹棍，像打全垒打一样挥过来，照着我父亲身上打了好几下，正好是他选的那个数字。

And the sensei took that bamboo stick and swung it like he was trying to hit a home run, and hit my father with that bamboo stick multiple times, the number that my father picked.

看着他皱眉忍痛，我从没见过我爸掉眼泪。

And to watch him wince, I never saw my father cry.

一个年轻人看到他这样默默承受这些打击，真的特别震撼。

To watch him you know, endure that pain to take on those blows was mind blowing for a young man at a very young age.

我当时就想，这到底是在干什么？太疯狂了。

I was like what is happening right now, this is crazy.

事后我问爸爸：你为什么能接受这种事？

Afterwards I asked my father why would you do that?

你为什么任由他这样打你？

Why would you allow him to do that?

他说，这是在训练自己的心智，让身体能扛住比赛中的疼痛。如果在训练中能承受更大的痛苦，上场时再大的伤痛也能挺得住。

And he said he was trying to prepare his mind to be able to play pain free, and if he could inflict more pain off the field that when he got on the field he could endure any amount of pain that came along with playing the game at the level that he was playing.

所以这需要一种特定的心态，从小耳濡目染，我早就明白了一个道理：卓越是要付出代价的。

And so that takes a certain mindset, and to be around that and to be, know, grow up around that, there were definitely some high standards that I learned at a very young age, that greatness comes at a cost.

真的吗。

Wow.

你父亲还提到过‘把每一刻榨干’。

Your father also spoke about exhausting the moment.

是的。

He did.

你能说说这是什么意思吗？

Tell me what that means.

这是他的生活信条。

It's his life motto.

你想想，最近一次你把自己累到极限是什么时候？

I mean imagine any of you, the last thing that you did to exhaust yourself.

随便什么事，想想你当时累得最彻底的那一刻。

Anything, think about the most exhausted that were in that moment of time.

我父亲希望在每一个当下都真正做到这一点。

My father wants to do that truly in every moment.

他想把每一刻都榨得干干净净，拼命让自己全然投入，专注于追求卓越，全力以赴地活在当下，把每一刻的价值发挥到极致。

He wants to squeeze every ounce of the moment out of it, and to try to exert himself to be as present as possible, to be in the pursuit of excellence, to try to show up and maximize what that moment is given.

在他看来，过去已经过去了，现在也根本不存在。

And in his mind he would talk about that obviously the past is no longer and the present doesn't exist.

真正重要的只有此刻，那为什么不拼尽全力，把这一刻用到极致呢？

The only thing that matters is this moment, and so why not do everything in your power to exhaust it?

所以他戴着手环，上面刻着‘榨干此刻’四个字，是皮质的，就当是时刻提醒自己，要以这个标准来生活。

So he wears a band that has exhaust the moment written around it, a leather band, and it's just his reminder again of the standard in which he tries to operate by.

但这还不是唯一令人震撼的故事。

So that's not the only amazing story here.

我觉得你故事里另一个让我特别触动的片段，是一段同样痛苦、甚至在某些方面更深刻的经历。

I think the other part of your story that was so striking to me was an experience that was equally painful, maybe more so in other ways.

在上高中、快升高三的时候，你遭遇了一场非常严重的车祸。

So as a high school student just before senior year, you were in a very, very bad accident, car accident.

能跟我们多讲讲那件事吗？还有你后来的经历，以及它是怎么改变你的？

Can you tell us a little bit more about that, and the journey that you went on, and how it reshaped you?

对，Emily，这个问题问得特别好。那确实是我人生中一个彻底蜕变的时刻，就像一场淬炼。只要我稍微回想一下，就能瞬间回到当时的情景，因为它对我、对我的家人来说，影响实在太深远了。

Yeah, Emily, great question, and truly a transformational moment in my life, a crucible moment, A moment that I could reflect on and be back in instantly, it was that impactful to myself and to my family.

你知道，那时候我还没上高三，正好是高三前的那个夏天。我们几个朋友打算去海滩玩一天。

You know at that point in my life, prior to my senior year, I was getting ready to go into my senior year, so it was just the summer before that, a group of friends, we were going to go to the beach and enjoy a day at the beach.

我永远忘不了那天。当时跟我一起去的有我最好的朋友、我当时的女朋友，还有另一个好哥们儿。我最好的朋友Teddy开车来我家接我们，准备带我们去海滩。他刚把车开过来，我们正往车那边走，我继父也开车到了，他开着一辆敞篷野马，冲我们大喊：嘿，你们这是要去哪儿？

And I'll never forget it because it was my best friend, the girlfriend that I was dating at the time, and another good buddy, and my best friend Teddy showed up at the house to pick us up and to take us to the beach, and as he was pulling up, we were walking out to the car, my stepfather pulled up and he pulled up in a convertible Mustang and yelled, hey where are you guys going?

我们说，要去海边。

And we said, we're going to the beach.

他说，别开那辆车，开这辆。

And he said, don't take that car, take this car.

他把钥匙扔给了我。

And he tossed me the keys.

我说，我当然开那辆敞篷野马，谁去海边不开野马呢？

I said of course I'm going take the convertible Mustang, who's not taking the Mustang to the beach?

于是我们跳上车，一路开往海滩。如果你听过或在场的朋友们熟悉南加州的高速公路系统，就知道那儿的车流从来就没停过。

So we jumped in the car and we take off to the beach and if any of you that are listening or those here in the classroom are familiar with the freeway system in Southern California, this is traffic all the time.

210号公路特别复杂，也特别危险，你得时刻保持警惕，开得特别谨慎。

20 fourseven, it's complex, it is a dangerous highway, you have to be on alert and be a defensive driver.

可我当时完全是在瞎开。

I was being a very offensive driver.

还没到海滩，我们先停下来加油，等重新上高速时，我在匝道上猛踩油门，结果车子突然失控了。

Before we got to the beach we stopped off to go and get some gas, and as we're getting back on the freeway I started to accelerate on the on ramp, and as I was accelerating on the on ramp I lost control of the car.

车子打滑甩尾，转过弯时我才发现，前方的高速公路开始抬高，下面还有一条高速和铁路穿过，我当时真以为我们要飞出路面了。

And as I fishtailed and powerslided through this turn, I realized that the freeway started to elevate, and another freeway and actually a rail system went underneath the freeway, and I thought we were gonna go off the side of the freeway.

于是我赶紧修正方向，你想象一下，快车道和慢车道汇合的地方，中间有个三角区，两股车流交汇时会积一堆碎石。

And so I corrected the car, and imagine the merge lane and the slow lane coming together, and there's that area, that triangle area that creates gravel as those two lanes come together.

车子最后就卡在了那个碎石区里。

The car ended up in that area.

就在这时，旁边慢车道上一辆车眼看就要撞上我们，我吓坏了，猛踩油门，直接横着冲过了整条高速。

And right then a car in the slow lane was just about to hit us and I panicked and accelerated the car and went perpendicular across the freeway.

我们横着冲上高速时，一辆车直接撞穿了驾驶座的车门，把我们的车撞成了两半。

As we're traveling perpendicular across the freeway, a car goes right through the driver's side door and bends our car in half.

后来别人跟我讲了这些细节，但我记得很清楚——要是我画功好，现在都能给你画出来。我脑子里的画面特别清晰：那辆柴油奔驰车一路冲过来，我眼睁睁看着它的车标撞上车门，然后就消失了。

And so, now a lot of this was told to me after, but I do remember, I could draw you the picture if I was a good artist, the visual in my mind is so clear of watching this diesel Mercedes come all the way to the door, and I could watch the Mercedes symbol of that car come and hit the door, and then it was out.

当时我约会的那位姑娘，肩膀骨折，脖子扭伤。

The girl that I was dating at the time fractured her shoulder and sprained her neck.

坐在我后面的那位朋友，左腿所有骨头全断了。

The gentleman sitting behind me, my buddy, broke every leg, broke every bone in his leg on his left side.

我最好的朋友没系安全带，被甩了出去，但他死死抓住了后备箱的行李架，奇迹般地一点事都没有。

My best friend wasn't wearing his seat belt, was ejected, but thankfully grabbed on, there was a luggage rack on the trunk that he grabbed onto that somehow miraculously nothing happened to him.

但对我来说，发生的事太多了。

But for me, a lot happened.

我的整张脸都被压扁了，双臂到处是撕裂伤、淤青和割伤。

My entire face was crushed, my arms were lacerated with contusions and cuts.

朋友们都以为我死了。

And so my friends thought I was not alive.

救护车来了，把我接上，直接送到了医院。

The ambulance came, picked me up, rushed me to the hospital.

送我去医院的时候，是在南加州。

As it rushed me to the hospital, it was in Southern California.

这个故事里还有一件真正奇迹的事：当时医院里有一位来访的医生，名叫普莱奇医生。

And another thing that happened in this story, which was truly a miracle, is there was a visiting doctor at this hospital, a gentleman named Doctor.

普莱奇。

Pletches.

我妈妈到现在还和普莱奇医生保持联系。

My mom actually still talks to Doctor.

因为他对我们家意义重大。

Pletches because he's meaningful to our family.

他是当时世界上唯一一个精通某种手术技巧的外科医生，能沿着颅骨呈之字形切开。

He was the only surgeon at that time in the world that had perfected a procedure that he could zig zag across your cranium.

我整个头骨，就是这一片区域，都被切开并掀开，以便进行面部重建手术，重新接回我的眼睛。

I had to have my whole entire skull, this area, cut and peeled down to do reconstructive surgery all through my face, reattach my eye.

我进去的时候，他正跟其他医生讨论这个手术，还说：‘我来给你们演示一下我能做什么。’

And when I came in, he was talking to other doctors about this procedure, and he said, Hey, I'll just show you guys what I am capable of.

他就当场带我去做手术，完成了整个重建工作。

And he took me in that moment to do his procedure and did the reconstructive surgery.

接下来的两周左右，我一直住在重症监护室。

I spent the next two weeks, I believe, in intensive care.

有好几天，我眼前出现了重影。

I saw a double for a number of days.

不过在此之前，我可是我参加的每个团队的队长。

Now mind you, before that I am the captain of every team that I played in.

我是返校节国王，学业成绩也是全年级第一。

I am homecoming king, I am the top of my class academically.

只要是我想做的事，我从来都是做得最出色的那一个。

There wasn't anything I couldn't do that I wasn't the very best at.

那时候我也开始慢慢建立起一种自信，可能有点儿自大了——我妈妈这么说。

I was also starting to develop a sense of confidence that was probably borderline cocky, my mom would say maybe.

当你觉得自己刀枪不入、无人能敌的时候，那其实是最危险的状态。

And when you're in that moment where you think you're invincible and untouchable, that's a dangerous place.

就在那一瞬间，所有的一切都被夺走了。

And instantly, suddenly that was all taken from me.

我不再知道自己的脸会变成什么样，也不再确定能不能再打球，甚至不确定自己的脑子还能不能像以前那样正常运转。

I no longer knew what I was going to look like, I no longer knew if I could play sports anymore, I no longer knew if I was cognitively going to be able to operate the same way that I was before.

转眼间，所有这些都消失了。

Suddenly all of that vanished.

最让人震撼的是，我躺在医院病床上，那种转变太深刻了——那时候我唯一确信的，就是我还活着，还有家人在身边。

And what was amazing is I sat in that hospital bed, it was so transformational because at that point all I knew was I had my breath and my family.

当我开始平静地呼吸，开始依靠家人的时候，我才真正明白了我的信仰。

And as I started to breathe and started to lean into my family, I started to understand my faith.

就在我觉得自己失去了生命中所有重要的东西时，我却得到了最重要的东西——我的信仰，我对救主耶稣基督的信念。

And all of a sudden when I felt like I had lost everything that was important in life, I'd gained the most important thing in my faith, in my belief in my Savior Jesus Christ.

正因如此，这种转变如此深刻，我突然明白，我生命中有着更大的使命。

And because of that, it was so transformational that all of a sudden I knew I had a bigger purpose.

我明白，人生不该只盯着那些荣誉和自以为重要的成就，真正重要的是能改变别人的生活，产生影响，成为领袖，传递一种信念。

I knew that I needed to do more with my life than just worry about accolades, or worry about whatever achievements that I thought were important, it was about changing lives, being impactful, being a leader, being able to share a message.

那一刻彻底改变了我，让我下定决心，绝不忘却呼吸的力量、家人的支持，以及信仰所能赋予人的坚韧与耐力。

And that moment was very catalytic in how I've dedicated my life to making sure I don't forget the power of the breath, the support of family, and the strength and the endurance that faith can give someone.

谢谢你问这个问题，但说实话，那段日子真的很难熬。

And so I appreciate you asking that question, but you know, that was a challenging time.

手术刚做完，医生进来问我感觉怎么样，我脱口就问：‘医生，我还能不能继续踢球？’

Of course the first question I asked the doctor, right, the surgery happens and he comes in, and I'm like, he's like, how are you feeling?

我说：‘我感觉挺好的，医生，但我还能踢足球吗？’

I said, I feel fine doc, but can I play football again?

他看着我说：‘孩子，你能活下来就已经是奇迹了。’

He was like, son, you're just lucky to be alive.

幸运的是，这场事故发生在夏天，懂足球的人都知道，夏天正是球队开始两练、备战新赛季的时候。

But thankfully, amazing, that accident happened in the summer, and if anybody knows or familiar with football, summer is right at the beginning of when you start to go away for training in two a days.

结果我那年真的又上场踢球了，谁都不信我能做到——我妈可能到现在还觉得又生气又心疼，我脸都重新整过，脑子里还有血块，居然还能戴上头盔重新上场，简直不可思议。

I actually played football that season, which nobody believed My that I could do mom probably still was a little frustrated and disappointed that I strapped on the helmet and found a way to play football again after having my face completely re put back together, blood clots on my brain, it didn't make any sense.

但那其实再合理不过了。

But it made perfect sense.

幸运的是，靠着那样的表现，我拿到了奖学金，这才走上了今天能坐在这里和你聊天的路。

And thankfully was able to play that by playing the way that I played, earned a scholarship, and sent me on the trajectory that I'm here now sitting with you.

我特别感激那个时刻。

So grateful for that moment.

我不会希望任何人经历这样的事，但我真的很感谢自己挺过了那段日子。

I wouldn't wish it on anybody, but grateful that I had to go through that.

谢谢你如此坦诚地分享。

Thank you for being so incredibly vulnerable.

我觉得这是我第一次听到完整的经过。

I think that's the first time I've actually heard the full story.

是啊。

Yeah.

谢谢你把这些故事分享给我们的学生们。

So thank you for sharing that with our students.

我觉得在最艰难的时刻，我们反而最能看清自己，我猜你就是在那些时刻真正认识了自己。

I think sometimes in the most difficult of times we find who we are, I have a suspicion that you found truly who you were in those moments.

没错，逆境会不断给我们上一课又一课，关键是我们得主动去吸收这些教训。

Indeed, adversity teaches us lesson after lesson after lesson, and it's our job to lean into those lessons.

你可能会觉得，那次经历就是我唯一遇到的难关。

And for me, you would imagine that that would be the only moment of adversity.

但事实上，接二连三的挫折、失误、困境，光是讲这些故事，我们就能聊上好几个小时。

Yet the story after story, we could spend hours here talking about trials and tribulations and setbacks and mistakes and difficulties and challenges that I faced to be here today.

但正因那次经历，我提醒了自己：我一定能挺过去。

But because of that moment, it reminded me that I can I can I can get through it?

回头看那段经历，不仅是为了分享，更是让我明白，明天很可能又会有一场考验。

It was a testimony for me to look back, to share, but also to realize that probably tomorrow there'll be a test.

生活总会突然给你一击，但只要有信念、有呼吸、有家人，你就能撑过去，继续往前走。

I'll be challenged, life will come at us, and yet again, with faith, breath and family, you can get through that moment and move forward.

所以，是的，我学到了很多，那些经历确实塑造了今天的我。

And so, yeah, I learned a lot and it was definitely defining who I am.

信仰、呼吸、家人。

Faith, breath, family.

这句话真好。

I love that.

就这三样东西。

Three things.

特别清楚。

It's very clear.

我们本可以聊很久你的超级碗和NFL职业生涯，但我更想聊聊你结束这段人生篇章时的转变——你其实做了一件特别勇敢的事，那就是经历了一次完全不同的蜕变。

So we could talk for a very long time about your Super Bowl and your NFL career, but I actually want to talk about the transition as you close out that chapter, and actually did something actually incredibly courageous, which is to go through another transformation of a different sort.

如果你没有在退役后选择从头再来，今天就不会坐在这里。

You wouldn't be here today if you didn't choose to start from scratch again after those years as a professional athlete.

你能说说，这背后需要什么？为什么你能成功？为什么别人很难做到？

Can you talk about what that took, and why you were successful in doing that, and why it's hard for others to do?

是的，能在NFL最高水平打球，赢得超级碗，实现儿时的梦想，那真的太棒了。

Yeah, playing in the NFL at the highest level, getting an opportunity to win a Super Bowl, living out your childhood dream, I mean it was incredible.

能站在数万人面前，听着大家喊你的名字打球。

Like being able to play in front of thousands of people, cheering your name.

十几万人。

Tens of thousands.

十几万人。

Tens of thousands.

好几千人。

Thousands.

好几千人。

Of thousands

成千上万的观众。

of viewers.

没错。

Yes,

太震撼了。

phenomenal.

你知道吗，随着这一切而来的是身份的转变，你会开始觉得自己就是那个人，觉得自己很重要、很有价值，你的自我认同完全建立在‘职业足球运动员’这个身份上。

You know, and all of a sudden what comes along with that is an identity, and you start to think that you are this person, you start to feel significant, you start to feel important, your identity starts to be rooted in this idea of being a professional football player.

历史上，能在NFL打满三年以上的球员，总共只有两万五千人。

There's only 25,000 men that have ever played in the NFL that have played longer than three years.

这其实是个很小的圈子。

It's a pretty small fraternity.

随之而来的还有名气和光环，你的自尊心会被不断捧高，艾米莉，真的会被捧得很高。

And so with that comes notoriety and stardom, and your ego gets stroked, Emily, a lot.

于是你觉得自己特别棒，可突然之间，你不再是那个球员了。

And so you feel really good about yourself, and then all of a sudden again suddenly you're no longer the football player.

退役后，当别人问你是谁时，你得重新建立一个身份。而随着你离球场越来越远，聚光灯也会一点点变暗，越来越暗。

When people ask you who after you retire, you have to develop a new identity, and that spotlight, as you get further and further away from the game, the spotlight gets dimmer and dimmer and dimmer.

这个转变特别艰难，因为你突然要进入一个完全不同的世界——节奏不一样，语言不一样，标准和规则都不一样，对生活的态度也全然不同。

And so that is a really hard transition, and all of a sudden you start to go into the real world that operates at a completely different schedule, has completely different vocabulary, standards, rules, and the way that it approaches life.

当我正在琢磨下一步该做什么时，我意识到，我得弄清楚怎么把从球场上学到的东西用到别处去。

And as I was trying to figure out what I was gonna do next, I realized that I needed to figure out how could I take what I'd learned from the game.

把当队友的本事、应对逆境的韧性、勤奋和专注、设定目标这些能力，转移到别的领域去。

The ideas of being a great teammate, and dealing with adversity, and hard work, and determination, and focus, and goal setting, and translate that over into a different arena, into a different field.

幸运的是，有一家家族办公室邀请我加入，于是我花了一年时间，就想着怎么把生活节奏理顺。

And I had the opportunity, thankfully a family office said you could come and work with us, And so I spent a year trying to just figure out a routine.

我当时懂的很少，但我知道，只要坚持第一性原理，到底什么是第一性原理呢？

And I knew very little, but I knew if I could live by first principles, what are first principles?

只要我第一个到、最后一个走，比谁都拼，答应的事一定超额完成，十倍努力，快速搞定，做到靠谱，学得快，我就还有机会。

If I could show up first, be last, outwork everybody there, make sure when I was asked to do something to over deliver that, buy 10 x, to do it fast, to be competent, to learn quick, that I would give myself a chance.

具体能有什么机会，我也不清楚，但我至少知道，我得先保住这份工作。

What chance that would be, I don't know, but I knew that I could hopefully keep a job.

我永远记得，刚入职大概四周的时候，有个人走过来拍了拍我的肩膀，说：嘿，你平时去吃午饭吗？

And I'll never forget, it was like the first, I don't know, four weeks into this job somebody comes by and taps me on the shoulder and goes, hey do you like to go to lunch?

我说：当然吃啊，我吃饭的。

And I said, yeah I like to eat lunch.

他们说：可你从来不去吃午饭。

They said, well you never go to lunch.

我说：没人告诉我原来我可以去吃午饭。

And I said, well no one ever told me I could go to lunch.

我根本不知道自己有自由去安排时间，因为在足球和体育里，一切都已经安排得明明白白。

I didn't know I had freedom or agency to have to set my schedule, because everything in football, everything in sport was dialed in.

每次训练，从几点开始到几点结束，你该在哪儿、该怎么做，全都有人给你列得清清楚楚。

Every practice down to the minute of exactly where you needed to be and how you needed to do it, everything was laid out for you.

从那种连怎么执行一个战术动作都给你拆解到极致的环境，突然变成完全由自己做主，这真的很难适应。

And so going from this environment where everything was told to you about the play, not just the play itself, but how execute that play down to the detail that the very best do it, to then all of a sudden have the freedom of agency, that was hard.

你得重新建立自己的习惯，设计新的衡量标准，学会在没有监督的情况下自我约束，幸运的是，我够清醒，不懂就主动问人。

And so you had to learn new routines, you had to develop new scoreboards, had to develop to a new way to discipline yourself to execute in that environment, and thankfully I'm self aware enough that when I don't know something I ask for help.

所以我经常打电话给别人：我真不知道这事儿该怎么弄，你能帮帮我吗？告诉我该做什么。

And so I would call people and say, hey I don't know what I'm doing here, can you help me out, tell me what I need to do.

我不断请教建议，想尽一切办法加快学习，好尽快赶上进度，之后再在事业上真正发力。

I would ask for advice, and I was trying to do anything I could to help accelerate the learning curve there so that I could hopefully get up to speed and then start excelling from there in my career.

我很喜欢你提到突然拥有自主权这件事。

I loved what you said about suddenly having agency.

我觉得很多学生都习惯了按日程走，对吧？

I think a lot of students, know, you're following a schedule, right?

你有课，有课外活动，但有些学生将来要当创业者，突然就得自己安排时间了。

You have classes, you have extracurriculars, and some of our students are going on to be entrepreneurs, and suddenly they have to design their own schedules.

我每一天的每一小时，该怎么用才能发挥最大价值？

Like, what's my highest and best use of every hour of my day?

我该怎么设计这样的安排？

How do I design that?

要想弄明白这个，其实是个挺有创意的过程，尤其当你突然没了任何日程锚点的时候，真的不容易。

It's really a creative process to try to figure that out, and it's not easy when suddenly you don't have anything anchoring your calendar.

没错，如果我问你该怎么安排，你可能会说，瑞安，我是这么规划我的一天的，但这套方法可能适合你，不一定适合我。

Correct, and if I asked you for advice on how to do that you may say Ryan this is how I lay out my calendar and my day and have it dialed in, and that may work for you, it may not work for me.

所以你说得对，要搞清楚什么最适合你，怎么优化自己的日程和习惯，我觉得最重要的一课就是学会说不。

So to your point, understanding what's best for you, how to optimize your schedule, your routine, I think one of the biggest lessons you have to learn is how to say no.

这可能是最

That is one of the most

为什么说‘不’这么重要？

Why is it important to say no?

我们总是被各种干扰包围，想想那些在各自领域达到顶尖水平的人——无论是运动员还是商界人士，他们的成功都源于专注的能力。

We're constantly distractions, We're and when you think about the people that have ever done things at the highest level, whether athletes or men and women in the business world, their ability to focus.

在体育界，我们公司至今还流传着一句话：少看一点，多看一点。

And there's a saying in sport that we use still even at our firm, see a little, see a lot.

多看一点，少看一点。

See a lot, see a little.

看得太多反而会让人不知所措，陷入分析瘫痪，分散了对最重要事情的注意力，也就是那个最关键的要务。学会拒绝那些干扰，才能保持专注，紧盯手头的任务、目标，以及你必须做出的取舍，这正是通往你所追求成功的艺术之一。

If you see too much you get overwhelmed, paralysis by analysis, you're distracted on focusing on the most important thing, the MIT, and so making sure you're able to say no to block out those distractions, to stay laser focused on the task at hand, on the goals that you want to achieve, on the sacrifices that you need to make, that is part of the art I think of achieving the success one goes after.

我还想再深入聊聊这一点，因为学会优先排序和说‘不’，真的是一项非常关键的能力。

I'm gonna dig into this one more time because I think learning how to prioritize and saying no is one of those really important skills.

那该怎么得体地拒绝呢？

So how do you say no gracefully?

我觉得我们很多人都有这种感受，常说的FOMO，就是害怕错过机会。

I think a lot of us here, you know sometimes we have this saying FOMO, fear of missing out.

那我们该怎么克服这种感觉，又怎么才能自信地拒绝别人呢？

Like how do we overcome that feeling, and how do we confidently say no to things?

是啊，我笑是因为我妈妈就坐在这儿，我想起她以前教过我一件事，大概是一年前吧，我跟她说我要去纽约参加一个颁奖礼，她说：‘哇，瑞安，太棒了！’

Yeah, well one, I'm laughing because I know my mom's sitting here, and I'll remember a lesson that she taught me, and this was maybe a year or so ago, I remember talking to her and saying hey I'm gonna travel to New York to go, I think it was an Acceptance Award, and she goes wow Ryan, that's amazing.

我说，顺便我还想帮一些人做点事，再帮另外几个团队搞个项目，她就说：‘天啊，你帮了这么多人，什么事都答应，可你唯一拒绝的，就是你自己。’

I said, while I'm there I'm gonna actually help some people with this, and help a couple other groups with another project, she's like, God you help so many people, you say yes to everybody, and I felt like a proud son, my mom was giving me a compliment, and she goes, the only person you say no to is yourself.

所以你也要记住，得学会把自我放在首位，不是自私，而是别为了取悦别人而透支自己，忽略了自己的真实需求和愿望。

And so one of the things that you have to also remember is making sure you're taking, prioritizing self in a positive way, not in a selfish way but in a way that you don't overextend yourself or exert yourself just for, to please others at the expense of your own personal needs and desires.

说到年轻人怎么学会优先排序、优雅地拒绝，我觉得最好的方式就是提供一个替代方案。

And so I say that because as young people are trying how to prioritize and learn to say no in a graceful way, to your question, I think one of the things that I've learned the best way to say no is to offer an alternative.

艾米丽，今天我没法陪你了，不过等我这个项目做完，三周后我们再约，我特别想跟你聊聊。

Emily I can't join you today, but you know what, in three weeks from now after I get this project done I'd love to catch up with you.

其实，你不如去见见莎拉，她特别棒，这种事她比我更合适。

Actually you know what, you should meet with Sarah, because Sarah is awesome, she would be better than me in this situation.

提供一个替代方案，这样既不会伤感情，也不会让对方觉得被拒绝了。

Offer an alternative, and that's a very thoughtful way to approach you know, feeling like you're not going to burn a bridge, or make somebody be disappointed.

我觉得这招对我挺管用的。

I think that's worked well for me.

既然你提到这些经验，我知道你已经运营这个叫‘Legacy’的平台好几年了，对吧？

Well taking all these lessons, I know you've been running this venture platform for a number of years now, right, Legacy.

它真的很特别。

And it's very unique.

就像我之前介绍你时说的，最特别的一点是，你们的旗舰基金把所有收益都捐给了慈善事业，这在你生活中占了很大分量。

And I think one of the most unique aspects of it, as I mentioned in introducing you, is that the flagship fund, you donate all the proceeds to charitable causes, and this is a massive part of your life.

现在我想换个话题，深入聊聊这个部分。

I wanna maybe switch gears now and dig into that.

你是怎么想的？为什么这么做？

How and why?

我知道这可能和你的信仰、你对世界的看法有关。

I know maybe it ties back to your faith and your view on the world.

能跟我们多说说吗？

Tell us a little bit more about that.

是的，今年我们总部位于佛罗里达州坦帕的基金会迎来了成立二十周年。

Yeah, this year our foundation which is headquarters in Tampa Florida celebrates twenty years.

恭喜你。

Congratulations.

你做到了。

You.

这个基金会的核心理念是给予的力量，所以我专门设计了一套课程，教高中十一二年级的学生理解给予的力量，以及如何成为服务型领袖。我们发现，这特别重要——在教年轻人那么多知识的同时，至少能让他们留意身边人的需求。

The mantra behind this particular foundation is the power of giving, and so we teach, I actually created a curriculum that teaches high school juniors and seniors the principles of the power of giving and how to be a servant leader, and we found that that's really important as we continue to try to teach young minds about a million things, but hopefully teaching them about being aware of the needs that are around them.

我非常感激我们在基金会所做的事，但真正让我坚持下来、并推动我投身Next Legacy事业的，是我赢得过超级碗。

And really grateful for the work that we do there, But the thing that I've found, and the reason that that's been important with the foundation, and has carried me into what we do at Next Legacy, is I won a Super Bowl.

我出身于一个名利双全的家庭。

I've been in a family that has fame and fortune.

我接触过许多顶尖的领袖，也见过无数杰出的人，他们都在各自领域做到极致，但没有任何一件事，比听到别人对我说‘谢谢你帮了我’更触动我的内心。

I've been around amazing leaders, and been around incredible humans that do things at the highest level, but there is nothing that's touched my soul more than another human saying thank you for helping me.

谢谢你改变了我的人生。

Thank you for changing my life.

谢谢你救了我。

Thank you for saving me.

当一个人有机会为另一个人这么做时，再也没有比这更有成就感的事了。

When you have the opportunity as a human to do that for another human, there's nothing more rewarding than that.

再也没有比这更有意义的事了。

There's nothing more impactful than that.

因此，我们将家族一直信奉的信条——施予之手永不空虚——融入了Next Legacy的使命中。

And so to be able to take this kind of family mantra that we also believe in, that the giving hand is never empty, we've instilled that into what we do as an organization at Next Legacy.

我们做了一件风投界没人做的事：不收取任何业绩分成，而是把我们自己和投资人的全部收益都捐了出去。

And so we prioritize something that nobody does in venture, we don't charge a carry, that we actually not only do our investors but the GPs themselves and our GP commitment, we give that all away.

太了不起了。

Incredible.

捐赠给全球各地的组织，去改变人生，让世界变得更美好。

To organizations all around the world to change lives, to make the world a better place.

是的

Yeah,

这太棒了，从个人角度来说，真的特别有成就感。

that is awesome, and so selfishly it feels really good.

这种感觉既强大又有意义，也充满影响力。我希望当我们回望过去时，能知道自己曾留下过一点痕迹，为这个房间里那些年轻的心灵提供过帮助——他们未来会继续倡导、推动、奋斗，让这个世界变得更好。我们不仅支持了他们，还为他们争取到了更多的起步优势。每当我想到这些，就会想起所有那些为我铺路的人：我的母亲、父亲、祖父母，甚至我曾曾祖母，还有他们之前的那些人，他们付出了巨大的牺牲，才让我今天能站在这里。

It's powerful and meaningful and impactful that hopefully that you know when we look back we've made a small dent and we've made a contribution that the young minds that are in this room that are gonna continue to champion, that are gonna continue to move forward, that are gonna continue to fight to make our world better, that we've helped them, we've aided in their efforts, that we've given them even more head start than And we so I think about all the men and women, my mom, my father, my grandparents, I knew my great great grandmother, the men and women that came before them that made tremendous sacrifices to give me the opportunity to be where I am today.

天啊，我有责任去努力现身，去真正带来改变。

Wow, I owe it to them to try to show up and make a difference.

所以，这就是我为什么坚持在这里，这就是Next Legacy存在的意义。我们会继续坚持与众不同，寻找方法为投资者创造回报，同时产生积极的影响。

And so those are the reasons that I show up, those are the reasons why Next Legacy exists, and we'll continue to fight for being different and finding ways to generate returns for our investors to create positive impact.

我知道，你的故事让我特别感动。因为当我回看自己是怎么走到今天的，就会发现，几十年前——五十年、八十年前——有人做过一些事，才让我父亲能出生，让我能出生，让我今天能坐在这里。我一直在想，我该怎么把这份善意传递下去，五十年、一百年后。

You know, I'm so touched by your story because when I look at how I ended up here, there are things that people did, you know, fifty, eighty years ago that made it possible for my father to be born, then me to be born, and then me to sit here, and I try to pay it forward fifty, one hundred years out.

那今天，我能为谁做点什么？让那个未来的人，也能去帮助别人。

So what could I do today for someone today who will benefit whoever they will then help.

完全同意。

100%.

要传到好几代人之后，对吧？

Several generations out, right?

我能感受到你带来的影响，不只是这一代，而是往后好几代，甚至一百年之后。

And I can feel and I know the impact that you've had, not just this generation, but several, several generations out, a hundred years out.

所以我才站在这里。

Well, that's why I'm one.

我跟你说过，能和你并肩而立，我感到无比荣幸，因为我知道你真心投入这件事。

I told you I feel honored to be next to you because I know that you're committed to that.

这份投入是真诚的。

And that commitment is authentic.

当我们有幸和一群志同道合的人聚在一起时，这就是我们发现的关键。

And that's the part that we have found when we're fortunate enough to huddle up with other men and women.

当你身处人生的赛场上，努力探索新方法去带来改变时，你必须和那些同样想产生影响的人紧紧站在一起。

When you're in an arena in the game of life, fighting to try new ways to make difference, you gotta lock arms with other that are trying to make impact.

所以，能和你一起参与这场活动，对我来说是一种荣耀，因为我清楚你正在为这份事业拼搏。

And so for me to be here with you, to show up and be a part of this is is an honor because I know that you're fighting for that.

你不仅在为这里的学生奋斗，也在为那些未来将受益于你的努力、牺牲与坚持的人们奋斗。

You're fighting not just for the students here, but for those that are down the road that will benefit from the effort and the sacrifices and your commitment.

这太了不起了。

That's amazing.

你之前提到一件事，其实挺有意思的，说到真实性的时候，你一直强调信任的关系，而你的平台正是建立在这一点上。

You said something that was actually quite funny, at some point going back to authenticity, you talk a lot about trusting relationships and that's what your platform is built on.

对你来说，AI其实代表的是真实互动。

And AI for you actually stands for authentic interaction.

在这个时代，大家开始质疑人与人之间的连接还有什么价值，而你却说，对我来说，AI就是真实互动。

And you know, in in a world where AI, you know, we start to ask questions about what is the value of human connection, you're like, AI for me means authentic interaction.

是的。

Yes.

你能再多说说，在当今这个时代，什么是真实互动吗？

Tell tell me more about authentic interaction in this day and age.

有意思的是，每个人都能接触到同样的信息。

Well you know the amazing part is that everyone's gonna have access to the same information.

再也没法借口说你没得到对的信息，或者不知道某件事了——这些信息几乎都已经摆在我们手心里、装在口袋里了。

There's not gonna be an excuse that you didn't have the right information, information, or that you didn't know something, it's going to literally be, it is already for the most part, in the palm of our hands and in our pockets.

但厉害的是，这些信息很多都过时了，甚至全部都过时了。

But what's amazing is a lot of that information is dated, if not all of it.

我知道现在正在录音，还没发布，但你想啊，要是咱们俩就坐在饭桌上，没有学生在场，就你我两个人聊聊天，那种才是真正有温度的交流。

And so I know this is being recorded now and it's not up yet, but you know if we were just sitting at dinner, you and I having this conversation, and the students weren't here, and it was just you and I sharing an intimate conversation, that's really authentic.

这些内容，这些信息，是我独有的，也是你独有的。

And that content, that information is proprietary to me, that's proprietary to you.

我们怎么利用它们，怎么学习、行动、决策、投资、交易，这些选择才真正让我们占得先机。

What we choose to do with that, how we learn, how we act, how we move, how we invest, how we decide to trade on that information that we're given, gives us edge.

所以我认为，未来我们能做的最宝贵的事，就是看着对方的眼睛，真诚地连接、互动，找到彼此交换信息的方式，这才是真正的竞争力。

And so I believe as we move forward, our ability to sit and look another human in the eye to connect with them and to authentically engage with them and to find ways to trade information will be an edge.

我们怎么思考，有多好奇，愿不愿意主动提问、深入交流，我觉得这将是未来最重要的能力之一。

And how we think and how we how curious we are to ask, to engage and to lean into that is to me one of the most powerful things that we'll need to do moving forward.

在信息越来越同质化的世界里，真诚的交流对成功和进步至关重要。

So having authentic interactions is critical to success and advancement moving forward in a world where information will get commoditized.

那你怎么才能脱颖而出？

How do you stand out?

你怎么让自己脱颖而出？

How do you differentiate yourself?

关键在于你和哪些人建立了真诚的互动，以及这些人本身的素质和水平。

And it'll be the quality and the caliber of the people that you have authentic interactions with.

因此，这里有不少年轻创业者正打算为他们的项目融资。

So with that, we have a number of budding entrepreneurs here who are looking to raise money for their adventures.

还有他们的创业项目。

And ventures.

他们确实应该这么做。

Yes they should.

你投资时，一般会看重创始人哪些方面？

Tell me how you, sort of what are you looking for in founders as you invest?

这是个好问题。

Yeah, it's a good question.

这当然要看阶段，但当你关注一个人本身时，总会寻找一些特定的特质——这些特质我在顶尖运动员、杰出的商界人士身上都见过，那些能脱颖而出、表现超群的人。

You know it depends on the stage obviously, but when you're thinking about the individual themselves, there are certain characteristics that you're trying to look for, and those characteristics are things that I found in elite athletes, in elite business men and women, people that have found ways to be outliers and outperform.

疫情期间，大家都忙着找事做，我也趁机梳理了一下，那些优秀人才身上到底有什么共同特质。我发现，真正打动我的是那些普通人身上那种不普通的进取心。

And during COVID I tried to spend time, as we all were trying to figure out what to do with the free time that we had, I was trying to sum up the qualities that I look for in elite people, and one of the things that I came up was you're trying to find common men and women with an uncommon desire to succeed.

而他们身上最突出的特质，我用一个简单的词来概括，就是‘用心’。

And the way that they do that, the word that I came up with, a simple word to describe all these characteristics, is they're thoughtful.

你想想，上一次有人对你特别用心，是什么时候？那种用心，意味着他做了超出基本要求的事，超越了底线，往往是那种私密、真诚、让人印象深刻的举动，你会忍不住说：这人真用心。

You you think about the last time somebody was thoughtful in your life, that meant that they did something above and beyond, that they went above the table stakes, that they probably did something that was intimate and that was personal engaging and memorable, that you would say that's really thoughtful.

所以当我观察年轻创业者如何表达和互动时，我特别留意那些——

And so when I think about the young entrepreneurs and their ability to present and engage, I'm looking for individuals that are

对自己的事业真正用心，有坚定信念的人，

thoughtful about their craft, that they have deep conviction

全身心投入自己所做的事情的人。全球八十亿人，为什么偏偏是他们，能把不可能变成可能？

present about what it is that they're doing, that out of the 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, why are they the one to make the impossible possible?

我常把这总结为‘三个C’：表达清晰、言简意赅、充满自信。

And oftentimes I call it the three Cs when they're presenting that they're clear, that they're concise, and that they have confidence.

当你表达清晰、言简意赅，又充满自信或信念时，这些就是你在快速判断一个人时，最该捕捉的信号。毕竟你只有很短的时间去评估一个人，但这些正是我们判断谁值得支持、谁可能成就一番变革性事业的关键线索。

When you're clear and you're concise and you have confidence or conviction, those are the things that you're trying to glean as you're trying to pattern recognize you know, these traits and that you usually have such a short period of time to evaluate people, but those are some of the things that we try to identify as we think about folks that we want to lean into and support on their journeys to building something that's transformational.

我特别喜欢你这三点，我评分用的是两个T和两个C，就是 thoughtful 和 thorough，还有 clear 和 concise，其实很多地方是重合的。

I love this, with your three C's I actually grade on two T's and two Cs which is thoughtful and thorough, clear and concise, so it overlaps quite a lot.

我觉得我都能通过你的课。

I think I could pass your class.

说真的，我不确定。

You know what, don't know,

我是个

I'm a

很严的评分人。

hard grader,

咱们得拿些例子来看看。

we'll have

这里得交点作业了。

to some samples here.

好了，我们快把前面这部分收尾了。

Alright, We're coming to a close in the foremost part of this.

所以我们问每一位嘉宾的问题，都是这个系列的创始人蒂娜·赛利格一直问的：你20岁的时候，希望知道什么？

So the question we ask all of our speakers is one that the founder of the series, Tina Selig, has asked every speaker, which is, what do you wish you knew when you were 20?

20岁？

20?

那时候你上大学，还在踢橄榄球，如果能回到20岁那年的自己身边，你会对年轻的瑞安·尼西说哪一两句话的忠告？

So you were in college, you were playing football, and if you could transport yourself back in time to yourself this day when you were 20 years old, what is one or two sentences of wisdom you would share with young Ryan Nece?

真是个特别棒的问题。

Such a beautiful question.

我觉得有两点我想分享。

I think two things that I would share.

第一，我会说，别把自己绷得太紧。

One, I would say I would loosen the tie a little bit.

哦，明白了。

Oh, okay.

我的意思是，那时候我本可以多和别的运动队的运动员们一起玩，去给他们加油，一起庆祝，好好享受20岁的时光。

And what I mean by that is there are probably moments where I could have hung out with a few of the athletes from other sports, and gone to cheer and celebrate and enjoyed those moments of being 20.

因为这段时光太珍贵了，再也没有别的时期能像这样。

Because the time is so precious and there is nothing like this period of time.

我这辈子再没遇到过和那时相似的阶段。

I have yet to find another time in my life that is similar to that time.

所以回头看，我会说，别太紧绷，好好享受当20岁的感觉，尽情玩乐，珍惜这些时刻。

So looking back, you would say enjoy it, loosen the tie, embrace those moments of being 20 and having fun and enjoying that.

第二点，我会反复提醒自己，人生不是那个连字符。

The second thing, I think I would double click and double remind myself that life is not about the dash.

不是你出生和离世之间那条线，而是要把这条线变成一个加号。

It's not about being the dash, Ryan, between your birth date and your expiration date, but it's turning that dash into a plus sign.

不是减号，是加号。

It's not a minus sign, it's a plus sign.

你做的每一件事、付出的每一份努力、每天与人相处的方式，都有能力让它变得积极或消极。

And everything that you do, and everything that you contribute, and how you interact on every day, you have the ability to either impact it in a positive way or a negative way.

所以我会提醒自己，哇，

And so I think that I would show up and remind myself Wow, of

这太美了。

that's beautiful.

好了，如果大家有问题，欢迎到话筒前来提问。

Well, with that, if you have questions, please come up to the microphone.

你谈了很多关于那些改变人生的时刻，比如那场事故和赢得超级碗。

You spoke a lot about these transformational life moments, the accident, winning Super Bowl.

我想知道，有没有哪件事，当时觉得微不足道，现在回头看却影响深远？

I'm curious what's maybe a decision you made that felt trivial in the moment and looking back had a huge impact?

谢谢。

Thank you.

当时觉得微不足道，现在回头看影响巨大。

Trivial in the moment, but had a huge impact.

我觉得是答应带我妻子出去约会这件事。

I would say it was probably saying yes to taking my wife out.

哦。

Oh.