Everyday Ultra - 我们听过的最疯狂的超马故事:兰布罗斯兄弟 封面

我们听过的最疯狂的超马故事:兰布罗斯兄弟

The Craziest Ultrarunning Stories We've Ever Heard: The Lambros Brothers

本集简介

当一切都在告诉你放弃时,是什么让你继续前行? 在本集中,兰布罗斯兄弟分享了他们如何从普通运动员成长为跑遍澳大利亚和英国的跑者,为癌症研究筹集了数十万美元,并克服了伤病、恶劣环境和足以击垮大多数人的挫折。 这段对话蕴含了每一位超马跑者都能应用的宝贵经验,无论你正在为首个50公里赛跑训练,还是追逐100英里终点线。你将了解到,为何强大的“为什么”是终极的绩效工具,如何在情况失控时保持冷静,以及韧性为何是一步一步在艰难中锻造出来的。 在本集中,你将学到: - 为何目标是心理韧性的基石 - 如何在长距离比赛中区分痛苦与煎熬 - 帮助你克服挫折与不确定性的心态 - 跑遍两个国家的实用经验 - 为何拥抱逆境能让你成为更强的超马跑者 - 为何坚持与信念能累积成非凡成果 如果你想培养更强的韧性、锤炼心态,并发现你真正的潜能,这集内容你绝对不容错过。 节目链接: 前往 ⁠⁠⁠⁠desertpeakultra.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ 注册我们的100K或50K赛事——沙漠峰超马赛 想通过我们的1对1教练计划,在我的团队指导下突破你的下一场超马?立即预约免费咨询,与我们的教练聊聊是否匹配! 想通过我们的团体教练计划与我一起突破你的下一场超马?立即报名团体教练计划: https://www.theeverydayultra.com/group-coaching 关注Joe的Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joecorcione/ Everyday Ultra YouTube频道: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUelKGeptWZivD6yRIDiupg 试穿专为超马设计的Mount to Coast跑鞋,使用代码EVERYDAYULTRA享受订单10%折扣,立即前往此处链接: 试用HYPERLYTE液体能量补给,使用代码EVERYDAYULTRA享受15%折扣,访问 www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com 试用PlayOn止痛喷雾,使用代码EVERYDAYULTRA享受20%折扣,访问 playonrelief.com 试用Bear Butt湿巾,使用代码EVERYDAYULTRA享受10%折扣,访问 bearbuttwipes.com 在 janji.com/everydayultra 试穿Janji运动服饰 使用Footpath应用轻松创建跑步路线,这款专为简化路线管理而设计的应用免费下载,访问 footpathapp.com/everydayultra 免费试用 试用CurraNZ提升恢复与表现,首单使用代码EVERYDAYULTRAPOD享受15%折扣,访问 www.curranzusa.com 关注Lambros兄弟! Lachlan:https://www.instagram.com/lachlanlamble/?hl=en Stefan:https://www.instagram.com/stefanlamble/?hl=en 双人账号:https://www.instagram.com/lambrosarmy/?hl=en

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欢迎收听《每日极致播客》,这档节目专为帮助你提升训练水平、突破比赛成绩,每天成为更好的耐力运动员而打造。

Welcome to the EVERYDAY ULTRAPODCAST, a show designed to help you level up your training, crush your races, and ultimately become a better endurance athlete every single day.

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不管你把耐力运动当爱好,还是立志成为这项运动的顶尖选手,这档节目都适合你。

Whether you're an endurance athlete as a hobby or someone who wants to be the best in the sport, this is the show for you.

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我是你的主持人乔·科西恩,非常感谢你的收听。

I'm your host, Joe Corcione, and thank you so much for listening.

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好了,我们马上进入正题。

Now let's get into it.

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在开始本期内容之前,得聊聊一个大家最关心的话题——跑鞋,对吧?

Before we dive into the episode, need to talk about one thing that's all on our minds, which is shoes, right?

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选对越野马拉松的跑鞋,至关重要。

The shoes that you pick for ultramarathons are super important.

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市面上几乎所有品牌的越野跑鞋,我都试过。

And I've ran in nearly every brand that produces a shoe for trail running out there.

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我得说,最近我试了一款跑鞋,是我穿过的最棒的越野马拉松跑鞋,因为这家品牌就是专门为了越野马拉松设计的。

And let me tell you this, I've recently tried a type of shoe that is the best shoe for ultramarathons that I've ever worn, specifically because this company designed shoes for ultramarathons.

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大多数品牌做的鞋都是为短距离比赛设计的,根本没法应对一百英里甚至两百英里的超马需求,既不够舒适,也不够耐穿。

While most companies designed shoes for shorter races or distances that don't cover up to that 100 mile or 200 mile distance that can really, really be comfortable, resilient, durable, and one that fits the needs of ultramarathons.

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而这个品牌叫 Mount to Coast。

And this company is Mount to Coast.

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Mount to Coast 专门做超马跑者用的鞋,不管是公路、越野,还是那种公路越野两用的款式,都做得特别到位。

Mount to Coast makes shoes specifically for ultra runners on road, trail, or even hybrid shoes that work good on the road and the trail at the same time.

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我这辈子最爱的跑鞋就是 Mount to Coast 的 H1,跑长距离的越野路简直太爽了,跑公路也完全没问题。

My favorite shoe of all time is the Mount to Coast H1, which is absolutely amazing on trails that are runnable for very long distances, and you can even run with it on the road too.

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它的中底泡棉是我跑过最舒服、最有回弹力的,真的没谁了。

And it has some of the best foam and the most comfortable foam that I've ever ran into.

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我特别喜欢他们的 T1,特别适合技术性强的碎石路,抓地力超强。

I also love their T1s on the trail, which are great for technical trails, rocky trails, trails where you need that extra grip.

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最贴心的是它的系带设计,跑久了脚肿了也能松一松,让脚透气,几乎所有跑长距离超马的人都会遇到这问题。

And the best part is it has this lacing system where you can actually let the shoe breathe a little bit in case you get swelling later into an ultra marathon with the feet, which almost every ultra runner will get in the long enough distances as well.

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还有他们的 R1,公路鞋,响应快、穿着舒服,做速度训练或者轻松跑公里数都特别合适。

And don't forget their R1, their road shoe, which is absolutely responsive, comfortable, and good for speed workouts and also easy road cruising miles.

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最重要的是,这些鞋非常耐穿。

So and the best part is these shoes are made to last.

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去年,贾米尔在奇波雷挑战赛中穿着同一双Mount to Coast H1跑完了600英里,一路稳稳夺冠,赢了一年的免费卷饼。

Last year, Jamil CurraNZ at his Chipotle challenge ran 600 miles in one pair of Mount to Coast h ones, and it kept him cruising for the win to win free burritos for a year.

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我知道凯文·戈德堡在马莫斯200英里赛中,一双鞋就跑了超过200英里,可见这些鞋确实经得起考验,没人喜欢鞋子还没穿多久就报废。

And I know Kevin Goldberg ran over 200 miles in one shot with one pair at Mammoth two hundred, so these shoes are built to last, and no one likes having throwaway shoes early.

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如果你想试试Mount to Coast,可以通过节目简介里的链接下单,使用优惠码EVERYDAYULTRA,立享九折。

If you want to give Mount to Coast a try, you can get 10% off your order by going to the link in the show notes and using code EVERYDAYULTRA for 10% off your order.

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访问节目简介里的Mount to Coast链接,使用优惠码EVERYDAYULTRA,就能享受九折优惠。

That's 10% off your order with code EVERYDAYULTRA when you go to link in the show notes for Mount to Coast.

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不妨试一试。

Give them a try.

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这是我越野跑生涯中穿过的最好的跑鞋,今年所有比赛我都会只穿这一款,真的很期待。

They're the best shoes that I have ever worn in my ultra running career, and I will be wearing them exclusively at all my races this year, so I'm excited to dive into that.

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好了,不多说了,咱们直接进入本期节目,好好感受一下Mount to Coast的鞋吧。

So without further ado, let's get in the episode and enjoy those Mount to Coast shoes.

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大家最近怎么样?

What's up, everybody?

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欢迎收听《EVERYDAYULTRAPODCAST》的又一期节目。

Welcome to another episode of the EVERYDAYULTRAPODCAST.

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我是你们的主持人乔·科西恩,这期节目我特别兴奋,不仅因为我自己,顺便介绍一下我们的联合主持人基利安·科斯,这位 podcast 的常客、EVERYDAYULTRA 教练、COCA DONA 男子组赛道纪录保持者,还有最近的冠军。

I'm your host, Joe Corcione, and I am absolutely stoked for this episode, not just because myself and our cohost by the way, I'll intro our cohost versus Killian Korth, frequent flyer of the podcast, EVERYDAYULTRA Coach, COCA DONA men's course record holder, and recent champion.

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基利安,你最近怎么样?

Killian, how are you doing, man?

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还不错,老兄。

Good, man.

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你听起来可比我还糟。

I sound a little better than you do.

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是啊。

I know.

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说起来,如果你听到我这沙哑的嗓音,我们刚从 First Form 的 Summer Smash 活动回来,扯着嗓子喊了一整天,玩得特别嗨,还听了 Marshmallow 的表演。

Like, for context, if you hear my raspy voice, we just came back from Summer Smash from First Form, screaming our heads off, having fun, listening to Marshmallow.

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那场面简直太疯狂了。

It was insane.

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不过话说回来,今天咱们不聊这个。

But anyways, this is not about us.

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现在不是谈Summer Smash的时候。

This is not about Summer Smash right now.

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今天要讲的是两位我们最近刚面对面认识的传奇人物,我们有幸能和他们一起训练,帮他们准备下一场重大挑战。

This is about two legends that we got to meet in person very, very recently and have had the the opportunity and pleasure to work with these guys and help them train for their next big challenge.

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更让人激动的是,不仅这几个月和他们相处的过程特别棒,看到他们一路走来所经历的一切,真的让人无比震撼——他们已经把耐力运动变成了一种潮流。

But, you know, what's super cool is is not only getting to know these guys through the months that we've worked with each other, but to see everything that they've done leading up to this has been truly, truly incredible, and they've turned endurance into a movement.

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他们就是Stefan和Lachlan,大家更熟悉的名字叫Lambros兄弟。这两位是澳大利亚的耐力运动员、内容创作者,也是充满公益心的冒险家,做的事听起来像天方夜谭,但只要你看过他们几乎每天发布的视频,就知道全都是真的。

This is Stefan and Lachlan, better known as the Lambros, and these guys are Australian endurance athletes, creators, and charity driven adventurers who are doing the kind of stuff that sounds crazy and made up until you actually see the footage that they put out nearly every single day.

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2024年,他们决定横穿澳大利亚,为癌症研究募款并提高公众意识。

In 2024, they set out to run across Australia to raise money and awareness for cancer research.

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原本计划用一百天完成,结果他们只用了八十五天,徒步了大约三千四百公里,一路上顶着洪水、热浪、暴风雨,还有各种伤病。

The original goal was one hundred days, but they finished it in eighty five days, covering roughly 3,400 kilometers while battling floods, heat waves, storms, injuries, all this crazy stuff.

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他们成为第一对横穿澳大利亚的兄弟,但这还远远不够。

They became the first brothers to run across Australia, but that was not enough.

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横穿澳大利亚之后,他们又接连挑战更多极限,包括横穿英国,每天平均跑46.5公里。

After Australia, they kept stacking massive challenges and including running across The UK, averaging about 46.5 kilometers a day.

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朋友们,这相当于每天跑一个超马,简直疯狂。

Folks, that's nearly an ultra every single day, and that is absolutely crazy.

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持续了整整35天。

Over thirty five days.

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他们还创下了横穿英国全境最快兄弟组合的纪录,同样是为了支持癌症研究募款。

And they became the fastest brothers to run the full length of The UK, again, raising money for cancer research as well.

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真正让他们的故事如此动人、如此有力的,不只是里程数,更是他们背后那份纯粹的信念——为公益奔走,为癌症研究发声,为比自己更大的事而努力。

But and that's what makes their story not just power not only powerful is not just the mileage, but the purpose and the drive that they do to help to give back, to help to support finding research for cancers, and and to to spread awareness of something bigger than themselves.

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这不仅展现了他们的人格魅力,也说明了超马这项运动的意义,远不止于我们脚下的路。

And I think this speaks volumes to not only their character, but to the whole notion that ultra running is bigger than what we do out there.

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当其中一人穿着威利·旺卡的服装跑半马,或横跨大陆时,他们始终在为善而跑。

And when it comes to, you know, one of them going out and and running a half marathon dressed as Willy Wonka, running across continents, they're always doing this for the good.

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他们做这些是为了让大众觉得有趣,也是为了让超马圈变得更好。

They're doing this for the entertainment of the people and doing this to make the Ultra Running space a better place.

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老兄,我真能跟你们聊上半天,你们实在太棒了,但我明白大家更想听你们自己说。

So, man, I could blab about you guys for so long because you guys are awesome, but I know that people wanna hear from you.

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所以,斯特凡、拉克兰,欢迎来到这个播客。

So, Stefan, Lachlan, welcome to the podcast.

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很高兴你们能来,我也特别期待深入聊聊。

Excited to have you on and so stoked to dive into this.

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能上这个播客真是莫大的荣幸。

It's an absolute privilege to be on the podcast.

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我想说,大约一年前,我们搬到了树林里。

May I say about twelve months ago, we moved out to the woods.

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就在澳大利亚这片森林的正中央,有一天我跑完步后,拉克兰走过来跟我说:斯特凡,我刚发现一个叫《Daily Ultra》的播客。

So the middle of the forest pretty much here in Australia and Lach came up to me after a run one day and he said, Stefan, I just found this podcast, Everyday Ultra.

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他当时在听你,乔,讲如何预防运动损伤。

And he was listening to you, Joe, about injury prevention.

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从那以后,我们就一直听这个播客,特别受你们分享的跑步故事启发,尤其是那些通宵跑步和在美国参加的超马经历。

Ever since then, we've been tuning into the podcast and just super inspired about your boys stories as well, running overnight and all the ultramarathons you do over in The States.

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希望有一天我们也能去那边,跑几场大比赛。

So hoping one day we can come over there as well and do a few big runs.

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那太棒了。

That would be awesome.

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而且我们其实也想先去你们那儿看看。

And hey, we wanna come over and see you guys first.

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我是说,我们真想亲自去你们家那边逛一逛,这简直太好了。

I mean, we're like, we gotta go hang out with you guys in your home turf, But it's awesome.

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你们的支持真的让我们特别感动,你们本身就是特别棒的内容创作者。

It it's so awesome to have your support because, mean, you guys are just awesome content creators.

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看到你们所做的一切,真的让人特别佩服。

And seeing what you guys have done is just truly incredible.

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现在能和你们紧密合作,简直就像梦想成真一样。

And now to be working closely with you guys, it's just been just been a dream.

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所以特别高兴你们能来。

So so stoked to have you guys on.

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那咱们从头开始聊吧。

But let's let's start at the beginning of all this.

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你们知道,每周你们都在跑,差不多都是半马或者超马,做各种各样的活动。

Like, you know, every week, you guys are nearly running, like, ultras, half marathons, doing all this stuff.

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而且你们还筹集了这么多善款。

Like, you're raising all this money.

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你跑遍了各大洲。

You ran across continents.

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我是说,你在超马生涯中做过很多不可思议的事情。

Like, I mean, you've done things, like, just so incredible in your ultra career.

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那你们这次要做的整个任务,最初是怎么萌生的呢?

Like what was the genesis of this whole entire mission that you guys are setting out to do?

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对,我大学刚毕业,是一名物理治疗师。我哥Steph比我大两岁,当时在一家叫迪卡侬的运动用品店做财务经理。

Yeah, so I just finished university as a physiotherapist and Steph, the older brother here by two years, he was working as a financial manager at a sports store called Decathlon.

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我觉得你们在美国可能有几位粉丝。

I think you guys may have a couple over in The States.

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但他当时在那家叫迪卡侬的体育用品店做财务经理,我有一天从理疗中心回家,就跟Steph说:我不确定自己能不能一辈子当理疗师。

But yeah, he was working as a financial manager there and we were kind of, I came home one day from the physio place for that and I said, Steph, I don't know if I can be a physio for my whole life.

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我挺喜欢这份工作,但可能真不适合我。

I love this, but it's probably just not for me.

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我想找点更有意义的事来做。

I want to find a little bit of fulfillment in my life.

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我们俩一直很喜欢拍视频。

Now we loved making content.

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于是我跟Steph说:要不咱们试试横穿澳大利亚吧?

So I just said, Steph, why don't we try to run across Australia?

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要是能把这个过程拍下来,肯定特别酷。

That would be really cool to document.

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那时候我们根本不是跑者,只是在本地打打澳式橄榄球而已。

We weren't runners at the time, we're just playing local AFL football.

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这有点像橄榄球和足球的结合。

It's kind of like a cross between rugby and soccer.

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你可以想象一下,我们就在那儿踢着球,Steph就说,嗯,这主意还真有点疯狂。

So if you can imagine like kicking a ball around, we're playing that and Steph's like, yeah, you know, that would actually be a pretty crazy idea.

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我们根本不知道以前有没有人这么干过。

We we had no idea if anyone had ever done it before.

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总之,我们给自己定了六个月的时间。

Anyway, we gave ourselves six months.

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我们订好了行程。

We booked the trip.

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租了房车,叫上两个最好的朋友,然后在奥普图斯体育场集合。

We booked the motor home, got two of our best mates, and we lined up at Optus Stadium.

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从澳大利亚最西边出发,跑三千四百公里到最东边,相当于绕回家了。

So on the very West of Australia to run 3,400 kilometers to the very East of Australia, back home basically.

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结果呢,顶着热浪、穿过洪水,我们真跑完了,还为癌症研究筹到了二十五万多美元。

And yes, somehow through heat waves, through floods, we ended up doing it, raising over $250,000 for cancer research.

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这算是我们旅程的起点。

That was kind of the beginning of our journey.

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他从物理治疗实习回来后,跟我们说,斯蒂芬,我有个想法——要横穿整个澳洲跑步。

What was crazy when he came home from physio placement and he said like, you know, Stefan, I've got this idea to run across the country.

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那时候我听说美国有个人在做类似的长途跑步,我就觉得他疯了。

Like I've heard of this guy over in The States doing like a big run across the country at the time.

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我们从小就是短跑选手,从来没想过要当长跑运动员。

I thought he was crazy because growing up as little boys, like we were always sprinters, but we're never like long distance endurance runners.

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但那时候,我们总觉得生活少了点什么。

But at the time, like we were feeling like so unfulfilled, I guess.

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工作根本不是我们真正热爱的事。

In our jobs, it was never really our passion.

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我们真正热爱的是当运动员,踢澳式橄榄球,虽然踢球时遇到过无数挫折和伤病。

Like our passion laid in being like an athlete or playing like Aussie Rules footy, although we face like so many adversities and setbacks playing footy.

Speaker 3

我职业生涯里动过五次大手术,而拉克兰在最后一季打球时,连续撞了三次脑震荡,最后一次甚至出现了脑出血。

So I had five major surgeries in my footy career and Lachlan actually had three concussions in the final season he played and in the final concussion that he ever had, he actually had like a bit of a brain bleed as well.

Speaker 3

那真是相当极端了。

So it was pretty extreme.

Speaker 3

然后你做物理治疗实习的时候,居然还在医院里接触尸体。

And then yeah, when you were doing that physio placement, was actually like working on the corpse or like the dead bodies of people in like the hospital.

Speaker 3

那时候我们做的事,确实够极端的。

So it was pretty extreme what we were doing at the time.

Speaker 3

我们就是觉得生活少了点意义。

We just like, weren't really feeling fulfilled.

Speaker 3

这个念头一直在我脑子里挥之不去,直到有一天我回家,直接说:咱们干脆干一票吧。

This idea was just stuck in my head until one day I came home and I'm like, look, let's let's just do it.

Speaker 3

就放手一搏吧。

Let's just give it a crack.

Speaker 3

我不确定我们能不能做到,但至少先定六个月,拼了命地练,然后直接冲到体育场,全力以赴试一次。

I don't know if we actually are capable of doing this, but we'll lock in for six months, train our heart out and just go to a stop to stadium and give it a massive go.

Speaker 2

你凭什么觉得这事儿能成?

What made you think it was possible?

Speaker 2

我知道你提过,心态是你参加超级耐力赛时最强的武器。

I know you have talked about how the the mindset is, you know, your biggest weapon with ultras.

Speaker 2

你以前根本不是耐力运动员,也不怎么跑步,那是什么让你有信心直接决定横穿澳大利亚?

Well, having not been an endurance athlete and and not a runner necessarily, what gave you the self belief to think, oh, let's start by running across Australia?

Speaker 4

说实话,一开始这想法简直太荒唐了。

It was so silly, to be honest, off the bat.

Speaker 4

现在跑多了超马,你才明白,关节的力量得慢慢练出来。

So obviously, you know, doing a lot of ultra running now, you realize you have to build strength in your joints.

Speaker 4

这需要好几年的时间。

It takes years to build.

Speaker 4

我第一次站在起跑线前,连一场马拉松都没跑过。

And I had never done a marathon before I towed the start line.

Speaker 4

赛前十周我试跑过一次马拉松,但没跑完。

I actually attempted a marathon ten weeks out and I failed.

Speaker 4

我才跑到35公里就撑不住了。

I got to 35 kilometers in.

Speaker 4

到了起点,我和斯蒂芬已经在澳大利亚的另一边了,过去一周社交媒体彻底炸了。

Got to the start line and I'm on the other side of Australia with Steph and like the social media over the last week just blew up.

Speaker 4

我们那一周在Instagram上大概涨了十万粉丝。

Like, I think we gained around a 100,000 followers on Instagram in one week.

Speaker 4

之前几乎没人关注,突然就涨到十万,因为根本没人相信我们真能跑穿整个澳大利亚。

It went from basically zero to a 100 because people just couldn't believe we're gonna run across Australia.

Speaker 4

两个兄弟在那儿蹦跶,谁看了都觉得不可能,完全不敢信。

Like these two brothers jumping around, like there's no way, no one could believe it.

Speaker 4

连我们自己都不敢信。

We couldn't even believe it.

Speaker 4

到了起点,我看着地图,心里一惊:天啊,这地方离家也太远了吧。

And we got to the start line and I'm looking at the map and I'm like, shit, like I'm pretty far from home here.

Speaker 4

我们到底该怎么跑啊?

How are we going to run?

Speaker 4

那时候我们以为大概要一百天,每天跑三十六七公里左右。

You know, we thought at the time it was going be a hundred days or around like 36, 37 kilometers a day.

Speaker 4

那时候我就想,反正现在已经没退路了。

And I was just like, well, like there's no backing down now.

Speaker 4

我们已经把所有东西都押上了。

Like we've put it all in the line.

Speaker 4

我们辞掉了全职工作,彻底放弃了后路。

We quit our full time jobs and we basically removed our safety net.

Speaker 4

对我们来说,这事儿只能成功,不能失败。

So for us it was all or nothing.

Speaker 4

所以我们必须坚信自己能行。

So we had to have that belief.

Speaker 4

我们早就想好了,所有退路都砍断了,根本没有备选方案。

We're like, we've cut all the safety net, no plan B.

Speaker 4

我们还给自己定了句口号,叫‘烧船’。

And we got like a bit of a saying, call it burn the boat.

Speaker 4

以前维京人远征英格兰,一上岸就把船烧了,这样就回不了挪威了。

So back in the day, Vikings used to go to England and then they would go to the land and when they would hit the land, would burn their boat so they couldn't go back to Norway.

Speaker 4

所以他们只能去劫掠陆地,找木头重新造船,根本没打算回头。

So what they had to do was obviously raid the land, and then get the, get wooden staff, rebuild boats, but there was no going back basically.

Speaker 4

我们也烧了船,真真正正地孤注一掷,而且我们根本没什么天赋。

So we burnt our boats and we quite literally went all in and we had no talent.

Speaker 4

我们完全不是耐力型选手,但唯一拥有的,就是信念和一个特别坚定的理由。

We weren't endurance runners at all, but all we had was belief and we had a really strong why.

Speaker 4

我们做这一切,是为了癌症。

We were doing it for cancer.

Speaker 4

是为了我们那位因癌症去世的奶奶。

We're doing it for our grandma who passed away from cancer.

Speaker 4

而她,一直反复经历着缓解与复发。

And we're the one who has been in and out of remission.

Speaker 4

我们就想,算了,不如直接说吧。

And we're like, you know what?

Speaker 4

如果我们每天能坚持走八到十个小时,也许真能完成这件事,但得一步一步来,一公里一公里地走。

If we can just move every day for like eight to ten hours, we might actually be able to do this thing, but it's just like one kilometer at a time.

Speaker 2

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

所以,这太

So, That's so

Speaker 1

太棒了。

so good.

Speaker 1

我特别喜欢这种破釜沉舟的心态,因为这种感觉真的很疯狂——当你别无选择的时候,退路根本不在考虑范围内。

I love the burn the boats like mentality because there is, like, something so crazy about that phenomenon where it's like if you just and and Killian and I talk about this a lot, is, like, if you don't have the option, like, it's not even on the menu.

Speaker 1

我知道Killian常这么形容,他就是这么说的。

I know it's, like, Killian's phrasing what he kinda uses for that.

Speaker 1

根本就不是个选项。

And it's not even, like, a consideration.

Speaker 1

你只能逼自己想办法,所以就只能往前走。

It's almost like, well, we just have to figure out this, so so we go.

Speaker 1

你们有没有特别的故事?我猜你们在澳大利亚那次徒步中肯定遇到过很多这样的时刻,有没有哪一次特别能体现,你是怎么靠意志力撑过那种低谷,甚至觉得‘这会不会就是终点了’的时候?

Do you guys, like, have, like, a a particular story or any I'm sure you got tons of stories from from the Australia run that is, like, the best example of that And being able to use your mind in a way that helped you to get through an extreme low or an extreme point where it was like, Oh my gosh, could this be the end?

Speaker 1

因为基伦说了,你们有那种心理韧性,能帮你们撑下去。

Because like Killeen was saying, you guys have that mental game that's gonna help you get you through.

Speaker 1

在这些长距离赛事里,心理状态往往决定成败。

And that is very often the make or break in these long distance events.

Speaker 1

所以,你们在澳大利亚这段旅程中,有没有哪个瞬间特别让你觉得,哇,真是靠意志力挺过来的?

So do you have a story or a particular moment in that Australia run that you think about that was like, Oh, wow, we harness the power of the mind there?

Speaker 3

有,我觉得肯定是第八天。

Yeah, I think it was definitely on day eight.

Speaker 3

如果你看谷歌地图,那时候我们的定位点还基本停留在西海岸。

We're literally if you look at Google maps, the blue dot is still like pretty much over the West Coast.

Speaker 3

我们是从西海岸出发的,到那天结束时,定位点居然还在西海岸,而拉克兰的脚踝已经肿得比八天前大了三倍。

So we started on the West Coast and it's still on the West Coast and we finished the day and like Lachlan was like triple the size of what it started at, like only eight days earlier.

Speaker 3

我们当时都慌了,他说:‘斯蒂芬,我觉得我胫骨可能断了。’

And we're thinking like, Fuck, he's like, Stefan, think I've broken my shin.

Speaker 3

总之,那天是星期天,我们就去了当地一家乡村医院。

So anyway, it's a Sunday and we rock up to this country hospital.

Speaker 3

那个镇子叫康登。

It was called Condon, this town.

Speaker 3

我们敲了门,两个护士走过来,脸上带着笑意,还忍不住轻笑了一声。

And we knock on the door and these two nurses come to the front and they start smiling with a little bit of a giggle almost on their face.

Speaker 3

她们说,对。

And they're like, yep.

Speaker 3

她们早就料到会有男选手过来。

We knew boys were gonna come in.

Speaker 3

我们看过你的内容。

We've seen your content.

Speaker 3

比如,我们看过拉赫兰的。

Like, we've seen Lachlan.

Speaker 3

我们知道你今天会来。

We knew you were gonna come in today.

Speaker 3

所以,我们在

So anyway, we're at

Speaker 2

我们早就准备好了。

the We were ready.

Speaker 3

我们进去后发现,那里实在太偏僻了,连冰袋都没有。

And we're in there and literally, like, it was so isolated that they didn't even have ice packs.

Speaker 3

他们只好从冰箱里拿了一袋豌豆,直接敷在拉克兰身上。

So they grabbed like peas out of the freezer and like chucked it on Lachlan.

Speaker 3

因为是星期天,医院里没有医生在岗。

There's no doctors in because it's a Sunday.

Speaker 3

所以我们通过视频连线,跟珀斯的医生进行了咨询。

So we've done like a video call with the doctors back in Perth.

Speaker 3

珀斯的医生让拉克兰做了一个单腿跳跃测试。

And the doctors in Perth pretty much told Lachlan to do like this hop test.

Speaker 3

他先用右腿跳,但那条腿根本不是发炎的那一条。

So he's hopped on his right leg first, which wasn't actually the shin that was irritated.

Speaker 3

结果一跳起来,立刻就疼得像电击一样,疼到十分里能给八分。

And like straight away, it was like just a shooting eight out of 10 pain.

Speaker 3

除非疼到七分以上,否则拉克兰和我都不会提这事。

Like, unless it was a seven out of 10 pain, Lach said like, Lachlan and I said, we wouldn't mention it.

Speaker 3

那时候他已经疼到八分了,我都能看出他脸上的痛苦表情。

So it was already like an eight out of 10 pain and I could see like the grimace on his face.

Speaker 3

别忘了,当时摄像师乔迪就坐在我旁边。

And bear in mind, the videographer, Jordy was sitting right next to me at the time.

Speaker 3

他双手捂着脸。

And he's got his palms in his face.

Speaker 3

他简直快哭出来了。

Like he's pretty much bawling his eyes.

Speaker 3

他以为这个项目完了。

He thinks like the project's over.

Speaker 3

然后医生让拉克兰

And then the doctor tells Lach to like

Speaker 4

换左脚站一下。

go onto his left foot.

Speaker 4

我就跟Lachlan说:你敢跳一下试试。

And I'm like, Lachlan, don't you dare hop.

Speaker 3

我真看得出来,他的骨头马上就要断了。

I literally could see like a compound fracture about to go on.

Speaker 3

所以Lach没敢用那条腿跳,后来做了几组X光,医生基本认定他的胫骨已经出现应力反应了。

So Lach didn't hop on the leg and then he went and got like a few x rays and they pretty much assumed that he had a stress reaction in his shin at this point.

Speaker 3

他们说,要是你继续跑,腿就真的会彻底断掉。

And they're like, if you keep running, you're going to like fully break your leg.

Speaker 3

医生还说,你得立刻放弃这次尝试,回珀斯做一次完整的核磁共振。

And the doctor said like, you need to abandon the attempt, come back to Perth, get a full MRI.

Speaker 3

我看着Lachlan,忍不住数落了他几句。

And I sort of like looked at Lachlan gave him a little bit of a smear.

Speaker 3

因为我觉得,我们最后的保障就这么没了。

Cause I was just like, our safety net is being like completely removed.

Speaker 3

但我就是有种预感,Lachlan还是会坚持下去,哪怕那时候摄像师都快哭出来了。

And I just had a feeling like Lachlan was still going to go, even though like at videographer, it was pretty much crying at this point.

Speaker 3

从那时起,Lachlan,你心里是怎么想的?

And then Lachlan, guess what was your mindset from that point in

Speaker 4

在医院里也是这样吗?

the hospital as well?

Speaker 3

我觉得那真是整个计划的一个关键转折点。

Cause I think that was like a real turning point in the project.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

医生建议我住院一晚,还说得用拐杖休息四到六周,然后立刻回珀斯。但别忘了,我们当时可是在澳大利亚沙漠的正中央。

So the doctors wanted me to stay overnight and they wanted to pretty much get me on crutches for four to six weeks and get us straight back to Perth and keep in mind, we're pretty much in the middle of the Australian desert.

Speaker 4

如果你想了解横跨澳大利亚是什么感觉,那就是连续八十五天,一路跑过荒无人烟的沙漠。

Like if you want to know what running across Australia, it's like, imagine just running through nothing but desert for eighty five days.

Speaker 4

大概每三十天,才能碰到一个小村庄,就这了。

And then maybe like every thirty days you get to a bit of a town and then that's it.

Speaker 4

偶尔才会遇到两个城市而已。

And then every now and then it's like two cities throughout.

Speaker 4

所以基本上就是一直在沙漠里跑。

So pretty much just running through the desert.

Speaker 4

这可真是实实在在地处在西澳大利亚沙漠的正中央。

This was quite literally in the middle of the Western Australian Desert.

Speaker 4

我当时就在想,天哪,这时候还剩九十二天,可我连站都站不起来。

And I'm just thinking like, Oh my God, at this point I have ninety two days left and I literally can't even stand.

Speaker 4

我就跟护士说:我先拿点止痛药吧,要是没问题的话。

So I said to the nurses, look, I'm just going to grab like some pain meds if that's right.

Speaker 4

然后我就回房车那儿,重新评估一下情况。

And I'm just going go to the van and we're just going to reassess.

Speaker 4

于是斯蒂芬一手扶着我,和乔治一起一瘸一拐地把我搀了出去。

And anyway, so Steph like grabs me under his shoulder and hobbles me out with Geordie.

Speaker 4

我两边胳膊分别搭在斯蒂芬和乔治的肩膀上。

So I got both my arms on like one side on Stefan, one side on Geordie.

Speaker 4

我几乎是蹦着出了医院。

I'm like literally hopping out of the hospital.

Speaker 4

那天晚上我回到房车,躺下睡觉,心里一直在想,那几个兄弟其实打算开车送我回起点,好去珀斯的医院。

And anyway, I get back to the van that night and I go to sleep and I'm just thinking, like the boys were thinking about driving us back to the start line to go to a hospital in Perth.

Speaker 4

这地方,就像我们说的,是个小地方的医院。

So this was like, as we said, a country hospital.

Speaker 4

那一晚我根本睡不着,因为我和斯特凡睡在同一张床上。

So I'm sleeping that night, like couldn't get to sleep because Stefan and I are on the same bed.

Speaker 4

我们整个团队就挤在一辆房车里。

So we're in one motor home.

Speaker 4

所有横跨澳洲的跑者,他们的后勤安排都精确到分钟,事无巨细。

So everyone who runs across the country, their logistics, like they're planned everything out to the absolute tee.

Speaker 4

但我和斯特凡向来是随性的人,就干脆直接租了辆房车,说走就走。

Now, given that a Stefan and I, and we just have always been on the fly type of guys, we've literally just booked out a caravan.

Speaker 4

我们带了两个最好的朋友,一路开车去珀斯,结果房车的空调坏了,马桶坏了,淋浴也坏了。

We've got two of our best mates and on the way up driving to Perth, the motor home air conditioner has broke, the toilet has and the shower has broke.

Speaker 4

这意味着每天都没法洗澡,也没法开空调。

That means that every day there's no showers, there's no AC.

Speaker 4

而且偏偏又是我们,从来不好好计划,居然选在澳大利亚的盛夏来做这件事。

And given that it's us again and we don't plan things properly, we actually decided to do this in the middle of Australian summer.

Speaker 4

每天气温都升到四十二到四十四度。

So every day it was getting to around 42 to 44 degrees.

Speaker 4

在美国我不清楚这相当于华氏多少,但用摄氏度来说,简直热得离谱。

So in America, I don't know what that would be in Fahrenheit, in Celsius, that is like fricking hot.

Speaker 4

最热的那天,气温达到了四十六度。

The hottest day we had was 46 degrees.

Speaker 4

那天,我们鞋底的橡胶都因为沥青太烫而融化了。

And that day, the bottom of our shoes actually melted on the Australian bitumen.

Speaker 4

简直疯狂。

So it was crazy.

Speaker 4

所以呢,

So anyway,

Speaker 3

我躺在床上,

so I'm in bed and

Speaker 4

我在说谎。

I'm lying.

Speaker 4

都快凌晨一点了。

It's like one 1AM.

Speaker 4

我看了一眼手表。

I look at my watch.

Speaker 4

天哪。

I'm like, shit.

Speaker 4

这太离谱了,床单都被汗浸透了。

This is crazy because the bed is just soaked in sweat.

Speaker 4

房车里热得要命。

It's so hot in the caravan.

Speaker 4

不过时间还是在走。

Anyway, time keeps going.

Speaker 4

它一直在走。

It keeps going.

Speaker 4

时间到了五点,我想从床上起来,可根本站不起来。

It goes to 5AM, and, like, I'm trying to get up off the bed, and I can't stand.

Speaker 4

我好不容易想站起来,结果又直接摔了回去。

And I go to stand up and then I fall straight back down again.

Speaker 4

我心里想,史黛芙,这情况太糟了。

And I'm like, Steph, this is really bad.

Speaker 4

这条腿说不定已经断了。

Like, this this leg could actually be broken already.

Speaker 4

我不确定。

I don't know.

Speaker 4

这可能是我这辈子经历过的最疼的一次。

This is the probably the worst pain I've ever been in.

Speaker 4

我又试了一次想站起来,结果一屁股又摔了回去。

And I go to stand up again and and I fall straight back down my ass.

Speaker 4

我心里一惊,完了,这下真糟了。

I'm like, Oh no, like this is bad.

Speaker 4

我怎么可能在这样之后,还跑完连续92天的马拉松呢?

How am I going to run, you know, a marathon for ninety two days after this?

Speaker 4

然后赛斯说,别担心。

And then Seth goes, look, don't worry.

Speaker 4

我有个秘密良方。

I got, I got like a secret medicine.

Speaker 4

他背对着我,后来我才明白,他其实是在给我冲一杯速溶咖啡。

So he turns his back on me and I ended up finding out in the future that what he was doing was he was making me an instant coffee.

Speaker 4

在澳大利亚,我们有个牌子叫Makona,就是那种家常速溶咖啡。

So in Australia, we have this brand called Makona, it's like just the home brand instant coffee.

Speaker 4

他放了四大勺这个咖啡,我们管这玩意儿叫什么来着?

And he's put four tablespoons of this coffee and we call this coffee, what what do do we call it?

Speaker 4

是不是叫‘魔法药水’?

We called it the, was it the magic concoction?

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

我们管它叫魔法配方。

Called it the magic concoction.

Speaker 4

所以他给我调了这杯魔法配方,整整四大勺。

So he's made me the magic concoction, four huge tablespoons.

Speaker 4

我一饮而尽,然后套了两条超小号的压缩袜,因为给我们帮忙的那位——Steph最好的朋友Nick,他小腿特别细,而我当时腿肿得厉害。

And I've rocketed this down and I've got two extra small compression bands because the support crew guy we had, Steph's best friend, Nick, he had like really small calves and my leg was so swollen at the time.

Speaker 4

那时候我估计得穿XL码才合适。

So I was probably gonna be fitting into like an extra large at that point.

Speaker 4

但我居然硬是把这两条超小号的压缩袜套上了。

And I somehow managed to like wiggle on these two extra small compression sleeves.

Speaker 4

第三次尝试的时候,我终于站起来了,那天以及接下来几天,前四公里花了整整一个多小时才走完。

And on the third go, I eventually stood up and on that day and for the next couple of days, the first four kilometers took over an hour to move.

Speaker 4

可见有多慢。

So that's how slow it was.

Speaker 4

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2

但是

But

Speaker 4

是的,这基本上就是我们放弃了安全保障。

yeah, that was basically our removal of the safety net.

Speaker 4

我觉得在澳大利亚那段经历中,这一点特别明显。

I think a really good example of that in the Australian run.

Speaker 4

那就是孤注一掷。

It was kinda like all or nothing.

Speaker 4

要么停下来等死,要么继续往前走。

It's either like, if we stop, we die.

Speaker 4

我们必须一直前进。

We've gotta keep moving.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我刚查了一下。

I just looked it up.

Speaker 2

42摄氏度相当于107华氏度,天哪,这温度

42 is a 107 degrees for for anyone that's Dude, that's

Speaker 1

实在太热了。

so hot.

Speaker 4

作为参考,我们经历的最高温是46摄氏度。

For reference, the hottest day we had was 46 degrees.

Speaker 4

头二十天里,有十五天温度超过40度。

So in the first twenty days, we had fifteen days over 40.

Speaker 4

我那天遇到的46度,是整个期间最热的一天。

My 46 degrees was the hottest day.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

46度就是115华氏度。

46 is one fifteen.

Speaker 3

一天之内。

A day.

Speaker 3

我们的鞋底真的在沥青路上熔化了。

The bottom of our shoes literally like melted on the bitumen.

Speaker 3

所以那双鞋基本上就报废了,剩下的路都没法穿。

So we had to like, pretty much that pair was written off for the rest of the trip.

Speaker 3

我们还带了个运动背心,里面插了两瓶塑料瓶装的佳得乐。

And we had like these, we had a trail vest with like two plastic bottles and like Gatorade inside it.

Speaker 3

大概走了十五公里后,我们试着喝一口。

And we tried to like drink it around 15 kilometers into the day.

Speaker 3

刚喝一口,就像在喝开水一样。

And we took a sip and it was like drinking boiled water.

Speaker 3

于是我们直接吐到路上,结果水一落地就滋滋冒烟。

So we like spat it out onto the road and then it was like sizzling on the bitumen.

Speaker 3

热到这种地步。

It was that hot.

Speaker 2

冰箱坏了,连冰镇饮料都没有,我真是没想到。

So with the fridge broken, like, didn't even have cold fluids, I'm thinking.

Speaker 3

所以那时候冰箱还能用。

So we had the the fridge was working.

Speaker 3

但空调坏了。

The air conditioning wasn't working.

Speaker 3

晚上在房车里睡觉时,里面通常更热。

So it was usually hotter in the motor home trying to sleep at night.

Speaker 3

是啊。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

但在纳拉伯平原和澳大利亚沙漠里,水特别少。

But, yeah, because like in the Nullarbor and in like the Australian Desert, there's just like a lack of water.

Speaker 3

我们根本没法从商店买到多少水。

We actually couldn't get like a hands on much water from like the shops.

Speaker 3

所以我们只能靠拖车上带的那些大水桶。

So we literally just have like these massive canisters that we had in the trailer.

Speaker 3

那些是30升的大桶,一直放在拖车后面,我们平时就用它们灌满水壶,但水桶整天都暴晒在太阳底下。

They were like 30 liter canisters And they were sitting out on the back of the trailer and they we would essentially like fill up our water flask with them, but that was sitting out in the sun all day.

Speaker 2

不错。

Nice.

Speaker 2

所以,在挑战的第八天,你小腿出问题之后,什么时候开始觉得这事真能成?

So did you like, after day eight in that challenge and having the the shin issue, like, when in the project were you feeling like, okay, we're gonna do this.

Speaker 2

就是那种确信一定能完成的感觉。

Like, confident that it was gonna happen.

Speaker 3

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

那之后的大概十天里,我们基本上每天都以很慢的速度徒步,大概每天走三十到三十五公里。

So I guess what sort of happened after that shin moment was the next like ten days, we pretty much like hiked it out, just like walking in a really slow pace around 30 to 35 kilometers every single day.

Speaker 3

拉克兰会帮他包扎。

And like what Lachlan would do, he would tape up.

Speaker 3

他平时是理疗师,就给他绑得特别紧,紧到脚根本没法正常活动。

He's like a physio back at home, got him like to tape up his shin in a way where pretty much he couldn't like plan to flex your foot.

Speaker 3

是这样吗?

Is that right?

Speaker 3

他缠得特别紧,简直像锁住了一样。

Like he would tape it up in a way that it was like locked up.

Speaker 3

这样一来,他的走路姿势就自然改变了。

So he would automatically like change his biomechanic.

Speaker 3

后来我们回来复诊,理疗师说他的应力反应正好长在最巧的位置——只要他慢慢做脚掌下压的动作,炎症反而慢慢消了,之后他就能一直跑完全程。

And what he found, we ended up coming back and the physio sort of said he had like the stress reaction in such like a perfect spot that if he did plantar flex his foot over time, it sort of like was in a spot that it like, it just remarkably like managed the inflammation came down and he could just run on it for the rest of the project.

Speaker 3

不过我觉得真正稳定下来,大概是在第30天左右。

But I would say it was around probably day 30 where we hit like a really good streak.

Speaker 3

到第24天的时候,我们自己都没想到能坚持这么久。

So on day 24, we couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3

头二十天里,我们

So in the first twenty days we had

Speaker 4

有十五天。

fifteen days.

Speaker 3

一天跑四十公里以上,就像你说的,差不多快一百华氏度了。

Fifteen days over 40, which is probably like you said, around a 100 Fahrenheit.

Speaker 3

然后有一天,我们凌晨两点突然醒了。

And then anyway, one day we like wake up at like 2AM.

Speaker 3

闹钟本来定在四点,结果外面传来冰雹砸在房车顶上的声音。

So alarm was supposed to go off at four and there's like the sound of just hail hitting the top of the motor home.

Speaker 3

我们简直不敢相信。

And like, we couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3

这怎么可能呢。

We're like, there's no way.

Speaker 3

两个小时后,雨还在不停地往下砸。

Two hours later, it's still pelting down.

Speaker 3

接下来的九十六个小时,雨根本没停过。

Anyway, for the next ninety six hours, it rained nonstop.

Speaker 3

四天之内,总降雨量超过了450毫米,其中一天就下了220毫米以上。

So in four days, there was over 450 millimeters of water with one day being over 220 millimeters.

Speaker 3

这是西澳大利亚过去一个世纪里记录到的最大降雨量。

And it was the most recorded rain in the whole of Western Australia in the last century.

Speaker 3

所以我们遇到的这场洪水,是西澳大利亚一百多年来最严重的,而且正好发生在我们跑步的路线区域。

So we literally had the biggest floods Australia has ever seen in Western Australia in over a hundred years, And it was in the exact area of where we were running.

Speaker 4

当时我们正身处沙漠腹地,所有道路都被封了。

So we were in the middle of the desert and they've fully shut off all the roads.

Speaker 4

因为积水已经有五十厘米深,所有道路都不得不关闭。

So all the roads are being shut off because there is like 50 centimeters deep of water.

Speaker 4

这简直太让人震惊了。

So blow me down.

Speaker 4

我们真的只能蹚着水走路,水深都到膝盖了。

We're literally like hiking through this water and it's knee deep water.

Speaker 4

Steph跟我说:Lach,这简直太疯狂了。

And Steph goes to me like, Lach, this is the craziest shit.

Speaker 4

我们本来计划每天跑个马拉松,结果现在却要蹚着齐膝的水前进。

Like, you know, we're supposed to be running a marathon a day and we're going through knee deep water.

Speaker 4

他赶紧说:别说了。

And he's like, stop it.

Speaker 4

我决定下水,直接游起来。

I'm going to get in and I'm going to start swimming.

Speaker 4

这简直太疯狂了。

Like, this is crazy.

Speaker 4

结果斯蒂夫直接在水里游开了,我就用手机拍下了他。

So anyway, Steph, he just starts swimming in the water and I just feel, I just filmed him on my phone.

Speaker 4

他干嘛在水里游泳啊?

Like, why is he swimming in the water?

Speaker 4

他就这么游了五十米。

He just swims like 50 meters.

Speaker 4

水太深了,他干脆开始自由泳。

He starts freestyling because it's so deep.

Speaker 4

他游的时候我一直在拍,那天晚上澳大利亚的新闻居然播了这段视频,还传到了国际媒体上,全都是斯蒂夫在沙漠里游泳的画面,所有人都看傻了。

Anyway, so he's swimming and I filmed it and that night the Australian news took it and like over the international news, like it's just videos of Steph just swimming in the middle of the desert and everyone just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4

不过连续四天,我们都没带任何外套或夹克,毕竟出发时正值盛夏,还赶上热浪。

But yeah, for four days nonstop, we didn't obviously pack any jumpers, jackets, anything because we're starting in the middle of summer and we're obviously in this huge heat wave.

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Speaker 4

然后天气冷得要命,我们每天都穿着背心,在没完没了的雨里狂奔。

And then it was just so cold and we were just running in these singlets like every day in just nonstop rain.

Speaker 4

不过不管怎样,我们总算熬过了那场洪水。

But anyway, so off we got through those floods.

Speaker 3

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

这大概就是对你问题的回答了。

So that's sort of answering your question.

Speaker 3

我们挺过了那场洪水,我记得是在洪水的第三天。

We got through those floods and I think it was on day three of those floods.

Speaker 3

那时候,澳大利亚的应急服务部门派人来了,SES在澳洲就是负责应对各种紧急状况的机构。

It was like these SES, SES in Australia is sort of like services that are protecting like the state from like an emergency.

Speaker 3

也就是州应急服务部门。

So it was like state emergency services.

Speaker 3

他们过来告诉我们,伙计们,那条长达1200公里的艾奥瓦公路,已经完全封闭了。

And they came out to us and they said, boys, like the Iowa Highway, which is around 1,200 kilometers long is completely closed.

Speaker 3

那时候路上就我们几个人,就偶尔能看到几辆长途货运卡车。

So we were the only people out on this road at the time, other than like a few road trains.

Speaker 3

那些卡车拉着牛群和补给物资,横跨整个国家。

So they're carrying like cattle and supplies across the country.

Speaker 3

我们是唯一在路上的人,他们还建议我们赶紧离开公路。

So we're the only people and they like sort of had recommended us like get off the road.

Speaker 3

不过我们还是打开社交媒体,给他们看了我们正在做的事。

Well, anyway, we pulled up like our social media, showed them what we're doing.

Speaker 3

结果发现,这两个机构的工作人员也都亲身经历过癌症的打击。

And then it turns out both of those offices have both been like affected by cancer as well.

Speaker 3

我们给他们看了我们的筹款页面。

We showed them our fundraising page.

Speaker 3

他们本来该劝我们下路,可却说:你们这几个小伙子,是在为一件了不起的事奔波。

So they sort of, know, mind that like they're supposed to encourage us to get off the road, but they're like, you you boys are out here for an awesome cause.

Speaker 3

我们就当没这回事,放你们过去吧。

Like we're just sort of gonna let it slide, pretend nothing happened here.

Speaker 3

所以他们放我们走了,一路上还有几次类似的暖心互动。

So they let us go and like those little interactions along the way, we had a few of those.

Speaker 3

项目初期,有个叫戴伦的人特意开车从珀斯过来,差不多五百公里,他妈妈也坐在车里。

There was another guy that came out to us early on in the project, Dylan, and he actually drove around 500 kilometers from Perth and his mother was in the car and she was sitting there.

Speaker 3

我记得看着她,感觉仿佛能直接看到她的灵魂,她得了晚期癌症,只剩几个月可活了。

I remember like looking at her and it was as though you could like look into her soul and she had terminal cancer with less than a few months to live.

Speaker 3

这些路上的小插曲,真的一直激励着我们,让我们意识到,原来有那么多人在癌症面前承受着比我们多得多的痛苦。

And these little interactions along the way, I think they just kept like inspiring us to go like, wow, like people are actually like really, you know, going through so much more than what we are that have been affected by cancer.

Speaker 3

挺过第二波巨大挑战之后——先是胫骨疼痛和热浪,接着是从第30天开始的洪水——我们突然觉得,也许我们真能完成这件事。

So once we did get through this second massive adversity, first lock shin and heat waves, and then second one being the floods from around day 30 onwards, we're like, we actually think like we're gonna be able to do this.

Speaker 3

我们就想着,一天一天来吧,现在还能有什么更糟的事发生呢?

Like we just got to take it day by day, like what actually worse can happen to us now.

Speaker 3

事情就这样一路走下来了。

And that's sort of how it went.

Speaker 3

我们一直靠着这股劲儿坚持到底。

We just carried through that momentum.

Speaker 3

大概前四十天情况还不错,但后来项目进行到一半,伤势又开始加重了,最后五百公里我是一瘸一拐跑完的,脚都断了。

And I think for about like forty days, things were looking good until later on in the project, like, you know, the injury started to compound a little bit again and I ended up running the last 500 kilometers with a broken foot.

Speaker 3

跑完之后我去拍了X光,第三根跖骨完全断了。

So I got an x-ray after the trip and my third metatarsal was completely broken.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh my God.

Speaker 1

这个项目里碰到的倒霉事、恶劣天气,简直多到离谱。

The amount of stuff that has happened on this project in terms of just the bad luck, the weather, is so crazy.

Speaker 1

我常讲,长距离越野跑最难熬的,就是那种必然要经历的心理煎熬。

And I often say with ultramarathons, I think one of the hardest combos to go through is the guaranteed mental pain that we tend to go through in these long things.

Speaker 1

但当你再叠加一连串完全无法控制的倒霉事,你就觉得:我都已经这么努力了,怎么还这样?

But then when you stack that compared to bad luck all stacking at once out of your control, because it's like, Okay, I'm doing all the things.

Speaker 1

真够受的。

It hurts.

Speaker 1

现在这儿又碰上了历史上最大的降雨。

But now I have the largest rainfall in history in the hemisphere over here.

Speaker 1

这真是够离谱的。

That is just one of those crazy things.

Speaker 1

所以在那些时刻,你提到看到那些不幸罹患绝症、正经历种种苦难的人,你们几乎每期视频和每周的挑战里都会融入这些内容。

So in those moments, you mentioned seeing the people who unfortunately are dealing with terminal cancer and going through all these things, and these are even things that you guys put in pretty much every single one of your videos and challenges that you're doing each week here.

Speaker 1

那时候,你心里想的就是这些吗?

Is that what you're thinking about in that moment?

Speaker 1

我真正想问的是,当一切彻底崩盘、情况乱到极点,你们已经承受了这么多内在煎熬的时候,到底是什么样的念头让你们没有被这些逆境击垮,还能继续往前走?

I guess the root of the question I'm trying to go for here is in the moment when shit's totally hitting the fan and it's crazy and you guys have gone through so much, internally, what's the switch you guys are putting on to help you to not let those adverse conditions stop you from continuing to move forward.

Speaker 3

是的,我们管这叫‘推进剂’。

Yeah, we love to call it like the rocket fuel.

Speaker 3

在我们所有的视频里,比如一场40公里的马拉松,后面总会配上一个火箭表情。

So on all of our videos, we'll have say like 40 kilometer marathon and then there'll always be like a rocket emoji.

Speaker 3

这个火箭表情的用意就是我们说的‘推进剂’,它就是你的动力源泉。

Like the reason for that rocket emoji is we call it like the rocket fuel and that's your why.

Speaker 3

我们相信,这才是最强大的驱动力。

And we believe that that's like the most powerful motivator.

Speaker 3

很多人都有属于自己的理由,关键是要花时间静下心来,好好想想它到底是什么。

And a lot of people, like everybody has their own why, you've just got to spend time to like reflect upon that and find out what it is.

Speaker 3

这个理由可能是过去的创伤,也可能像我们一样,是为了某个事业奔跑,比如癌症对我们祖父母的影响。

And it could be past trauma, it could be, you know, you're running for a cause like we do with cancer and how it's affected our grandparents.

Speaker 3

但不仅如此,现在它更变成了一种个人使命——我们最初是为了筹款而开始,一路上却遇到了太多激励我们的人。

But not only that now, it's become very much just, you know, from a personal mission, how we started out trying to raise money for the cause to meeting so many people along the journey that have inspired us.

Speaker 3

所以看到这些,就成了我们继续前行的原动力和核心理由。

So seeing that is really our rock of fuel and our why to keep pushing.

Speaker 3

还有我们曾经经历过的挫折和困难。

Also just like the setbacks and adversities that we had faced.

Speaker 3

我们总是回头想想:过去那些难关我们都挺过来了,现在还有什么能拦住我们?

So we sort of always look at that and go like, we've overcome these things in the past, like what is it that we can't overcome?

Speaker 3

我们最大的动力,显然是祖母们对抗癌症的勇气,还有路上遇到的那些人。

So I think our big rock of fuel obviously is our grandmas and seeing them push through cancer and also the people with met along the way.

Speaker 3

癌症是一个原因,但我们也想最大限度地发挥自己的潜力。

So cancer in general, and then also we want to just get the most out of ourselves.

Speaker 3

所以对正在听这个播客的你,我建议花点时间好好想想:你的动力源泉到底是什么?

So for anybody that is like tuning into this podcast, I would just recommend like, you know, spending time to reflect on like, what is your rocket fuel?

Speaker 3

是什么让你每天早上愿意从床上爬起来?靠动机或自律都撑不了多久,意志力也是有限的,但如果你能找到真正点燃你的那股力量,它能让你坚持几十年都不放弃。

What makes you want to swing your legs out of bed in the morning and do it because motivation or, you know, discipline, it's fleeting and willpower is limited, but rocket fuel can keep you going for, you know, decades upon decades if you just spend that time to really find out what that is in yourself.

Speaker 2

确实,我们在超马圈经常聊到一场比赛中的起落,而像横穿澳大利亚这种持续八十天的挑战,不过是把这种起落放大到了更高的层次。

Yeah, and when you go through, we talk a lot in the ultra world about the highs and lows of a single race and the highs and lows of something like running across Australia over the course of eighty days is just this like, higher level version of that.

Speaker 2

当你身处低谷,比如快走到医院门口的时候,那种状态真的很让人佩服,也很鼓舞人心。

And it's it's it's it's impressive and inspiring to be able to to be in a low, like, knocking on that door of the hospital.

Speaker 2

所有人都跟你说:你别硬撑了,你根本做不到。

And, you know, being told by everyone like, you probably shouldn't, you can't do this.

Speaker 2

可你还是咬牙挺了过来。

And then being able to push through that.

Speaker 2

这真的很了不起。

It's a, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2

在那种时候,很容易就会自怜自艾。

I mean, it's easy to, in those moments to kind of feel sorry for yourself.

Speaker 2

一旦你踏上这条路,就很容易陷入想放弃的危险状态。

And once you start down that path, it's that's you're kind of in the danger zone in terms of, like, letting yourself quit.

Speaker 2

但听你们的意思,好像根本不会有这种念头。

But it doesn't sound like you guys have that that, like, that capacity.

Speaker 2

根本就没考虑过放弃这回事。

It's like, that that was never an option.

Speaker 2

这真是太棒了。

That's that's that's awesome.

Speaker 4

是的,完全没错。

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4

我们一直把疼痛和煎熬看成两回事。

I think we've always looked at like pain and suffering as two very different things.

Speaker 4

不管做什么,跑超马的时候疼痛总是难免的。

And no matter what you do, when you are running an ultra marathon, there's always going to be pain no matter what.

Speaker 4

但真正的折磨,是那种精神上的煎熬。

But suffering is the worst thing.

Speaker 4

那就是当你感到疼痛,却又抗拒这种疼痛的时候。

And that is when you have pain, but you have resistance to the pain.

Speaker 4

特别是在澳大利亚越野跑刚开始的时候,我们总是疼得厉害,比如我胫骨的压力性损伤,疼得不行,但我一直在抗拒这种疼痛。

And particularly at the start of the Aus Run, we were always in so much pain, like with my stress reaction in my shin, I was in so much pain, but I had resistance towards that pain.

Speaker 4

我几乎把自己当成了受害者。

I almost looked at myself as the victim.

Speaker 4

热浪和洪水来的时候也是这样。

It was the same with the heat wave and the floods.

Speaker 4

到了第四天,雨下得跟倒水一样。

I'm like day four and it's just literally pissing down with rain.

Speaker 4

因为房车里连个洗衣机都没有。

Cause we didn't have a washing machine or anything in the van.

Speaker 4

每天我们都是穿着湿透的衣服、踩着湿透的鞋子。

So we're getting in like drenched clothes every day, drenched shoes.

Speaker 4

我们睡在沙漠深处,整整六十多天都没洗过澡。

Like we're going to bed now, like we're in the middle of the desert, we couldn't shower for over sixty days.

Speaker 1

我们当时

And we're

Speaker 4

躺在那张床上,床单上全是泥,黑乎乎的。

in this bed and the sheets of the bed are literally like black with mud.

Speaker 4

我们俩挤在一张双人床上,头对脚挤得像沙丁鱼罐头。

And we're like, we're quite literally in a double bed, head to toes squished like sardines.

Speaker 4

我心里就一个念头:这太扯了。

And I'm just like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 4

我真的在受罪。

Like I am suffering.

Speaker 4

我心里特别抗拒。

I have so much resistance.

Speaker 4

为什么是我?

Why me?

Speaker 4

为什么偏偏是我?

Why me?

Speaker 4

为什么是我?

Why me?

Speaker 4

但当你一次次主动承受这种近乎自找的痛苦,最终你会开始接受它。

But then eventually once you keep putting yourself through this almost like intentional pain, you begin to accept it.

Speaker 4

然后你会意识到,这其实是个成长的机会。

And you're like, well, this is actually like an opportunity for growth.

Speaker 4

如果你不再抗拒,它就不再是折磨,而是一种近乎愉悦的沉浸状态。

And if you don't have that resistance towards it, it's just pain and it's almost like a blissful flow state.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我觉得你提到的‘对痛苦的抗拒’这个概念特别关键,对吧?

I think that that term that you highlight there is so important of the resistance to pain, right?

Speaker 1

因为关键就在于,一旦你开始对抗它、抱怨它,或者拼命想摆脱它,痛苦反而会变得更强烈、更难熬。

Because it's like, that is so key and such a good point to highlight because it's like once you start to fight it or complain about it or to be in a position where you're trying to get rid of it essentially, that's where it just becomes louder, it becomes harder.

Speaker 1

真正与逃避痛苦相反的,不是挣扎,而是接纳。

That's what's the opposite of trying to move away from pain, it's the comfort.

Speaker 1

而通常这种情况都伴随着放弃,或者没有尽全力。

And usually that comes with quitting or not doing the best we can.

Speaker 1

所以我特别喜欢你用‘抗拒’这个词,因为很多时候,我们之所以想做这些事,正是因为它们很难。

And so I love that you frame it as resistance because oftentimes the root of why we want to do these things is because it's hard.

Speaker 1

我们确实愿意直面那些艰难的时刻和挣扎。

And we genuinely want to face those hard times and struggles.

Speaker 1

当然,也不是说非得遭遇洪水那样的灾难,但正是因为难,我们才需要它。

Of course, not to the degree of, Oh, we don't want to have crazy floods and everything too, but we do because it's hard.

Speaker 1

我觉得你说得特别好,关键在于接纳它、敞开自己去面对,而不是一味地逃避。

And I think to your point, which is so beautifully said, is embracing it and being open to it as opposed to just trying to push it away.

Speaker 1

这本身就是一种超能力。

That is the superpower right there.

Speaker 1

我特别喜欢你这种表达方式,真的太棒了。

So I love the way that that's phrased, and it's so good.

Speaker 1

我还想说,你把‘为什么’比作火箭燃料,这个说法太贴切了,确实如此。

And I also love, gotta say, that you called the why the rocket fuel, because it really is.

Speaker 1

这正是最棒的地方。

That's the thing which is so cool.

Speaker 1

你

You

Speaker 4

不是为了你们自己的利益。

guys Not your benefit.

Speaker 4

去

Get

Speaker 1

哦,你先说吧,基利安。

Oh, go ahead, Killian.

Speaker 2

我快速补充一下,你提到痛苦和煎熬,这点特别好,因为这让我想到我研究过很多佛教教义,它们说,其实没有所谓的痛苦,只有人对痛苦的反应。

Real quick, you said about pain and suffering is awesome too, because it relates to I've studied a lot of Buddhist teachings, And they say, like, there is no suffering, there's only one's reaction to suffering.

Speaker 2

这其实很相似。

And it's similar.

Speaker 2

说白了,你其实能决定自己大脑如何解读这些外界的输入。

It's like, you sort of get to decide, like, how the inputs are going to be perceived in your own brain.

Speaker 2

所以如果你能把痛苦看作是:嘿,这本来就在我的预料之中,我早就知道会这样,而不是把它当成意外或巨大的打击。

So if you can take the pain as like, Hey, this is like, I knew what I was signing up for, you know, like, I had to expect this instead of this like surprise or this big negative.

Speaker 2

当你在做一件很难的事时,能这样想,本身就是一种超能力。

It's like, that's a superpower in and of itself when you're doing something hard.

Speaker 1

完全没错。

100%.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

真的太棒了。

It's just so awesome.

Speaker 1

我觉得你们一直践行着这种理念,也克服了最初的挑战。

I think that you guys live that philosophy and that first challenge.

Speaker 1

你们做到了,这太了不起了,特别鼓舞人心。

You guys got it done, which is so awesome, so inspiring.

Speaker 1

那是在2024年。

And that was '24.

Speaker 1

到了2025年,你们又说,咱们再找个国家,横穿它一次吧。

And then in '25, you're like, Let's do another one of Let's find another country and run across it.

Speaker 1

我特别喜欢关注极限耐力跑者的原因,就是他们从第一次经历中学到的那些经验。

And my favorite thing about following people in the ultra space is always the lessons learned from the first experiences.

Speaker 1

从横跨澳大利亚那次大徒步,到后来的英国项目,你们在第二次挑战时,想法有没有因为第一次的经验而改变?

So from that big trek across Australia, now going into The UK project and going into this too, were you guys thinking about things differently in terms of going through that first experience to the next one?

Speaker 1

在准备阶段,你们有没有做哪些不一样的调整?

Were there any things that you guys did different in the prep?

Speaker 1

中间那段过渡期,你们是怎么想的?是不是觉得,这次一定要把上一次的经验用上,彻底突破自己,不断进步?

What was kind of like that middle period in between of where you guys said, Okay, this time we're going to take lessons we learned in the first one to help to smash this one and continue to improve on what we've learned?

Speaker 4

是的,我觉得跟很多做类似事情的人不同,我们其实根本不是为了跑步本身。

Yeah, I suppose the thing that kind of, I guess separated us from a lot of other people doing similar things was we were never really doing it for the running.

Speaker 4

我们真正想做的,就是为慈善筹款。

We were more doing it for like just raising money.

Speaker 4

我们学到的是,要想筹到大笔资金,关键是要引发大量关注。

What we learned is like the only way to actually raise a lot of money is to get a lot of rage.

Speaker 4

我们更关注的是内容,而不是跑步本身。

We were actually more focused on the content than what we were with the running.

Speaker 4

在澳大利亚的时候,我们确实会跑步,但跑步只占我们精力的10%,内容创作才占90%。

So we in Australia like would run, but running would only take 10% of the energy content would take 90% of the energy.

Speaker 4

这其实也就是我们现在一直在做的事。

So it was like, and that's, I guess what we do now.

Speaker 4

我们虽然跑超马,但一直都在拍视频,有自己的理念,我们总说:重要的不是你做什么,而是你怎么做。

Like we do these ultra marathons, but we're always filming and we have a philosophy and we always say this, it's not about what you do, it's about how you do it.

Speaker 4

当我们横穿澳大利亚的时候,很多人没意识到,其实我们每天都在自己剪辑视频。

So when we ran across Australia, what people didn't realize was like, we were like actually editing our own content every day.

Speaker 4

每天跑完一个马拉松,接着花几个小时剪辑,几个小时上传,再花几个小时构思第二天的内容。

So we're running a marathon every day, and then we'd spend a couple hours editing, a couple hours uploading, a couple hours doing the ideations for the next for the next day as well.

Speaker 4

在英国这段旅程中,我们也是一样的。

So that was the same as The UK too.

Speaker 4

所以这次在英国,我们并没有更多地想着……

So with The UK, it wasn't more like, alright.

Speaker 4

我们现在只想专注于跑步的训练。

We're just gonna focus on, like, the training for the running.

Speaker 4

我们更多是在想,怎么提升内容质量,好让更多人看到,从而获得更多的捐款。

It was more just like, how can we upscale our content so we can reach more people to get more donations?

Speaker 1

老兄,这简直太疯狂了。

Dude, that's insane, by the way.

Speaker 1

你一个人做完所有事,还自己剪视频,这真的太了不起了。我敢说,99%做这种多日挑战的人,要么有团队帮忙,要么有人专门负责内容,毕竟跑步本身就已经够吃力了。

To to do everything that you did and edit your own content is, first of all, that's so impressive because most people I would say 99% of people who do these multi day challenges, they either have a team or someone doing it because the running portion is so hard.

Speaker 1

而你们俩居然同时兼顾这两样。

And so the fact that you're doing the two.

Speaker 1

我还想特别提一下另一点,你刚才说那番话的时候,我整个人都起鸡皮疙瘩了。

The other point that I do wanna highlight, though, that was really I mean, it gave me chills when you said it.

Speaker 1

你说你们的重点其实是内容,因为这才是真正的目标和使命。

You're like, Hey, our focus was the content because that was the real why and the mission.

Speaker 1

你们就是想尽可能多地筹到钱。

It was like, We wanna raise as much money as possible.

Speaker 1

所以你把精力都放在了如何加速这个初衷上,跑步反而成了载体,这太棒了,因为你抓住了背后真正的意义。

And so you put the energy into the way to accelerate the why, and the running's kind of the vehicle, which is so cool because you got to the essence of the why behind it.

Speaker 1

这简直太酷了。

So that's fricking cool.

Speaker 1

基利安,你是不是也想说点什么?

Killian, I don't know if you were gonna mention something too.

Speaker 2

我就是好奇,纯属技术问题——在澳大利亚沙漠中间,你们用的是Starlink吗?

I was just This is just a pure logistics question, but in the middle of the Australian desert, did you have a Starlink?

Speaker 2

你们靠什么上传内容?

What are you using for uploading things?

Speaker 3

对,我们用了Starlink,房车里还配了一个逆变器。

Yes, we had a Starlink and then in the motorhome we had, there was an inverter.

Speaker 3

我们把Starlink插在逆变器上,但你可能想不到,那个逆变器就放在拉克兰和我睡觉的双人床底下。

So we'd plug the StarLink into the inverter, but believe it or not, the inverter was underneath the double bed that Lachlan and I were sleeping on.

Speaker 3

因为必须一直插着电,它把床都烤得像暖气片一样热。

And because we had to have it plugged in, it would heat up the bed like a furnace.

Speaker 3

所以刚开始那几天气温高达100度,我们躺在那张床上,心想这绝对不行。

So when it was like those a 100 degree days at the start, we're lying on this bed and we're like, there is no way.

Speaker 3

感觉就像有个电热毯,但想象一下,如果电热毯坏了,那热量会正常的好三倍。

It feels like there's an electric blanket, but imagine an electric blanket being broken, then it's triple the heat of what it actually is supposed to go.

Speaker 3

上面躺着就那样,房车里面更是热得像105华氏度。

That's what it felt like on top of that, inside the motor home, it was like 105 degrees Fahrenheit.

Speaker 4

对,所以

Yeah, so

Speaker 2

比如一千五百公里

like for 1,500

Speaker 4

穿过澳大利亚沙漠,那片地方叫纳拉伯平原。

kilometers through the Australian Desert, it's called like the Nullarbor.

Speaker 4

大家一听到纳拉伯平原就头疼,因为这个名字的意思就是‘没有树’。

And everyone dreads the Nullarbor because Nullarbor means like no tree.

Speaker 4

所以那里真的就是一马平川的沙漠。

So it's literally just like flat desert.

Speaker 4

想象一下,每天气温都在42到44度之间,而房车就直接暴晒在太阳底下。

So imagine it being like 42, 44 degrees every day, but the van is just in the heat.

Speaker 4

整天就像待在一辆停着的车里一样。

So it's like in a car all day.

Speaker 4

我们每天都会放个温度计,车里温度经常飙升到45度,得接上逆变器,可逆变器一开,床都跟着发烫。

So the van, we had a thermometer on every day, the van would actually go 45 degrees and then would have to connect the inverter, but the inverter would heat up the bed.

Speaker 4

床简直像个火炉,但为了拍内容,我们只能硬扛。

So the bed was like a genuine furnace, but that's what we had to do to get the content up.

Speaker 2

这太厉害了。

That's amazing.

Speaker 1

而且一点空调都没有。

Mean And there's no AC.

Speaker 1

一点空调都没有。

No AC at all in

Speaker 4

完全没有空调。

the No AC.

Speaker 4

没有空调。

No AC.

Speaker 4

但上次我们有。

But last time,

Speaker 3

我们当时用了几台落地扇。

we had, like, pedestal fans.

Speaker 3

结果在去的路上,扇子坏了。

So on the way up, it broke.

Speaker 3

后来我们去了Bunnings,就是澳大利亚当地的五金店,买了几台落地扇。

And then, like, we went to Bunnings, which is, the local trade shop in Australia, and we got these, like, pedestal fans.

Speaker 3

但后来我们发现,一插上电,不仅耗电更多,还让床更热了。

But then we're like, well, we actually figured when we plugged them in is, one, it was just using more of the inverter power, it would heat up the bed even more.

Speaker 3

而且,这些扇子其实只是把车里原本的热空气来回吹而已。

And two, like, all it was actually doing was just circulating more of the hot air that was already in the van.

Speaker 3

根本没带来任何凉意。

It wasn't actually giving us any more cold air.

Speaker 1

在我们《EVERYDAYULTRA》这将近400期节目中,我还在想你们之前在第一次通话时讲过的那个英国之旅的故事,那次我们没在这档播客里提过。

I think in the in the nearly 400 episodes that we've had on EVERYDAYULTRA, And I'm also thinking about the story from The UK run that you guys told us on, like, the on the first time that we called that we didn't talk about on this podcast.

Speaker 1

我一边想着那个故事,一边又想到现在这个。

I'm thinking about that story and then this.

Speaker 1

我觉得你们俩绝对是这档播客里讲过最离谱的越野故事的人,这点没得跑。

I think you guys have won the championship for most, like, insane ultra stories on the podcast, like, for sure.

Speaker 1

绝对没错。

100%.

Speaker 2

绝对是和房车打交道最离谱的经历。

Easily the most insane dealing with a motor home.

Speaker 2

天哪。

Oh my god.

Speaker 3

这听起来太真实了。

That sounds so real.

Speaker 3

最离谱的是,我们当时已经把后路都断了,辞了工作,就打算用这辆房车撑过105天。

Insane thing is because we had burnt the boats and quit our job, so we're looking at getting a motor home for a hundred and five days.

Speaker 3

之所以是105天,是因为我们答应了澳大利亚的媒体人拉克兰,没告诉我就说好,如果没在100天内完成,就剃光头。

And the reason it was a hundred and five days is because we promised Australian media, Lachlan, without telling me that we'd shave our heads if we didn't get under a hundred days.

Speaker 3

所以我们以为100天完成,再花四天开车过去。

So we thought a hundred days, and then it was gonna take us four days to drive up there.

Speaker 3

项目一结束,第二天就把房车还回去。

So we'd drop the motorhome off the day after we finished the project.

Speaker 3

我们上网查了所有租车平台,想找能租105天的房车。

And we looked online on, like, all the the retailers for motorhomes to to hire it out for a hundred and five days.

Speaker 3

结果报价都要四五万澳元,我们根本负担不起。

And they were gonna cost like 40 to 50,000 Australian dollars, but like there's no way we can afford that.

Speaker 3

后来我们上了Facebook Marketplace,直接从一个住在墨尔本的陌生人手里租了。

So we went on like Facebook Marketplace and we just hired it off like this random person that lived in Melbourne.

Speaker 3

租了之后才发现这车毛病一堆,但直到开到那儿才发现空调坏了,之前完全不知道。

And so we hired it off this random person and like his motor home was just like, had so many faults with it, but we didn't actually know any of this until we drove it up there, realized the aircon was broken.

Speaker 3

到那儿的第一天,车里一股尿骚味。

Then the day we got up there, we just smelt like piss.

Speaker 3

我们低头一看,发现它正在地上滚来滚去。

And we like looked down and it was like rolling along the floor.

Speaker 3

我身后那个厕所坏了,淋浴也坏了。

Like the toilet in there behind me was broken, the shower was broken.

Speaker 3

然后我们的两个朋友去了一家沃尔玛。

And then the boys, our two mates, they went to Woolies.

Speaker 3

所以我们洗澡的唯一办法就是用婴儿湿巾,还有那种理发店用的喷水瓶。

And so our option for showers was we had baby wipes, and we had, like, the hairdresser spray bottles.

Speaker 3

就是理发店给客人喷头发的那种喷瓶。

Like, how they would spray your hair in a hairdresser salon.

Speaker 3

每天结束的时候,我们就靠这个擦身清洁。

That's when we had to, like, wash ourself off at the end of each day.

Speaker 1

真不错。

Nice.

Speaker 1

你们真是太厉害了。

You guys are legends.

Speaker 1

下次我再参加极限耐力赛,一想到你们的经历,我就觉得:天啊,你们在野外熬了那么多天,经历这么多糟心事都能挺过来,我这点困难算什么。

And next time I'm in an ultra, like, all I'm just gonna do is just think about your guys' experience and be like, dude, if these guys can get through this shit in, like, you know, all the days that they were out here and this, like, crazy stuff, like, I think I'm gonna be good.

Speaker 1

真的特别感谢你们,你们太激励人了。

So thank you for the inspiration because that's truly inspiring.

Speaker 1

换作别人,到第八天可能就放弃了,更别说后面那些日子了。

So many people would have tapped out at day eight and then probably even more days later on.

Speaker 1

你们真的太了不起了。

So kudos to you guys.

Speaker 2

好多人一听说房车空调坏了,立马就打退堂鼓了。

So many people would have been like, Oh, I have a caravan where the AC doesn't work.

Speaker 2

根本不敢开始这趟旅程。

I'm not even gonna start this thing.

Speaker 2

不过我知道,你们的房车糗事还多着呢,我可等着听你们讲英国之行的故事呢。

But I know we have more caravan mishaps to come because I wanna get you guys to talk about The UK trip.

Speaker 1

什么?

What?

Speaker 1

这个故事一直在我脑子里挥之不去。

The story is just haunting in my head.

Speaker 1

是的,确实如此。

Like Yeah.

Speaker 1

总之。

Anyways.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

从实际操作的角度来看,你们有没有遇到什么特别头疼的问题?我知道重点在内容上,所以你们肯定在想,

Like, logistically, was there anything that you were like I know I know the focus was the content.

Speaker 2

好吧,

So you're like, okay.

Speaker 2

怎么才能把这个做得更深入一点?

How can we expand that more?

Speaker 2

但我猜,横穿英国在后勤上肯定轻松多了,毕竟那地方没那么偏僻。

But I imagine that running across The UK was logistically significantly easier just given that it's not as remote.

Speaker 2

那在实际操作上,这两次经历有什么明显不同的地方吗?

And so was there anything that felt really different about those two attempts just on the practical side of things?

Speaker 3

我觉得澳大利亚沙漠明显安静得多。

I think like the Australian Desert was obviously like just a lot more silent.

Speaker 3

如果非要说的话,那种宁静让人更放松,因为在英国,每天都会经过三到七个小镇,所以虽然穿过的城镇更多,但实际操作反而更麻烦——每天都要换好几条路。

If I were a bit more like blissful, because in The UK every day would run through like three to probably seven towns every single So although like, I guess like you're going through more towns, it was actually almost like logistically harder because on every day you were on so many different roads.

Speaker 3

得一路穿过这么多小镇,停车休整特别头疼,每天都要找地方停房车,方便我们补给休息。

You had to cover through all these towns and it was just like challenging to park up like the motor home to get like pit stops throughout the day where we could, you know, actually get it.

Speaker 3

而且我们还在一个完全陌生的国家,虽然说环境没澳大利亚那么恶劣,灰尘也没那么多,但光是房车的后勤安排,英国这边反而更棘手。

And because we're in like a completely foreign country as well, would actually say arguably like it wasn't like as dirty or the conditions weren't as tough as Australia, but I would say like logistically with the motor home was actually probably more challenging in The UK.

Speaker 3

这倒挺有意思。

Interesting.

Speaker 3

这么说确实有道理。

I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 4

在英国,因为小镇多,吃饭很方便,但在澳大利亚的纳拉伯平原,我们有整整四十天连一口吃的都找不到。

In The UK, because obviously there was a lot more towns we could get food, but in Australia with the Nullarbor, we had to go through a region for about forty days where we couldn't get any food.

Speaker 4

出发前,我是个特别挑食的人。

Like before the trip, I used to be a very fussy eater.

Speaker 4

像金枪鱼这种东西,我从来都不碰。

I would never eat anything like tuna, nothing like that at all.

Speaker 4

但这次长途跑步,我们不得不吃。

But on this run, we actually had to.

Speaker 4

每天我们俩就靠一种特制饮品撑着——斯蒂芬放四大勺速溶咖啡,那时候我们根本不懂营养。

So all we had was every day, Stefan and I would have the magic concoction with Stefan's four tablespoons of coffee, instant coffee that is, and then would actually run, because we didn't understand nutrition back then.

Speaker 4

问题是我们太听乔的了。

We were listening to Joe, that was the problem.

Speaker 4

我们完全没概念。

We didn't have no idea.

Speaker 4

每天早上醒来就跑,出发前喝一口那杯特制饮品。

We'd wake up and we'd run, we'd have a magic concoction before we started.

Speaker 4

四大勺咖啡,差不多八百毫克咖啡因,简直疯狂。

So four tablespoons of coffee, which is probably equivalent to eight hundred milligrams of caffeine, which is just like crazy.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh my God.

Speaker 1

这简直就是一大碗药汤。

That is a mass concoction.

Speaker 4

到了八公里的补给站,我们会喝点佳得乐,再喝一杯速溶咖啡,浓度没那么高了,但那时的咖啡因含量肯定已经超过了一克。

And then we'll get to the eight ks pit stop and would have a Gatorade and would have another instant coffee, not as strong, but probably like half the strength by this point, definitely over a gram of caffeine.

Speaker 4

到了十六公里的时候,我们根本不懂什么碳水化合物、蛋白质、快速补充这些事儿。

And then we'll get to 16 kilometers and we didn't understand about like carbs proteins fast.

Speaker 4

我们完全是一头雾水。

We had, we had no idea.

Speaker 4

我那时候都不知道手表还能像Strava那样记录跑步数据。

I didn't even know you could track like Strava on your watch.

Speaker 4

我就是用手机点一下暂停、再点一下开始来记录Strava。

I was just clicking stop and start on my phone for Strava.

Speaker 4

那时候我们对跑步的了解就只有这么点。

That's how our knowledge of running was at the time.

Speaker 4

我们那时候简直是史上最不懂行的越野跑者了。

Like we were just the most like ignorant ultra runners ever.

Speaker 4

整个跑步过程中,我们大概只摄入了六七百卡路里。

And then we would essentially have probably around like six to 700 calories for the whole run.

Speaker 4

跑完之后,我们就吃罐头金枪鱼,那鱼一整天都晒在后拖车里,配上米饭。

And then after the run was finished, we would just have tuna that has been like literally cooking in the sun all day in the back trailer on top of rice.

Speaker 4

我们就吃这个。

And that's what we'd eat.

Speaker 4

还有椰子油。

And coconut oil.

Speaker 4

当时能弄到的就这些了。

And that's pretty much all we could get.

Speaker 4

后来我们弄到了长效无乳糖牛奶,再加点格兰诺拉麦片当甜点。

And then we got long lasting lactose free milk and would put that with a bit of granola for dessert.

Speaker 2

你现在这表情是怎么回事?

What's your face right now?

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

所有这些都在里面了。

That's all in here.

Speaker 4

所以我们连续85天,几乎每天都吃这个,那正是那场跑步的全程。

So we ate that for 85 pretty much eighty five days showing that was run.

Speaker 4

但在英国,我们吃的是鸡蛋、豆子和鸡肉。

But The UK, we're actually having like eggs and beans and chicken.

Speaker 4

就是为了多了解一点营养知识。

So to actually learn a little bit more about nutrition.

Speaker 2

听起来好太多了。

That sounds so much better.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

我们俩在澳大利亚那个岛上减掉了15公斤。

And we lost 15 kilos between us and the Australian island.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2

你们俩大概减了四十磅吧。

So you guys lost like 40 pounds probably.

Speaker 2

每人二十磅。

So 20 pounds apiece.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

真不错。

Nice.

Speaker 2

太棒了。

Nice.

Speaker 1

这太惊人了。

That is insane.

Speaker 2

得讲讲英国的故事了。

Gotta get to the to The UK story.

Speaker 2

不过。

But

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

当然了。

For sure.

Speaker 1

你先说吧。

Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 2

你不是从苏格兰开始的吗?

Just can we like, you started in Scotland.

Speaker 2

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 2

所以你是从北部开始,一路往南走的?

So you started in the North and went south?

Speaker 4

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 4

呃,其实呢,不好意思,我打个岔。

So there's a there's oh, sorry.

Speaker 4

你继续说。

Go go.

Speaker 2

我知道,毕竟我在英国长大,对那里的地理挺熟悉的。

You it, like and I mean, I'm pretty from I I grew up in The UK, I'm familiar with the the geography.

Speaker 2

但那会儿下了多少雨?

But how much did it rain?

Speaker 2

虽然可能没澳大利亚那么暴雨连连,但你们到底有多少个晴天?

Probably not quite as torrentially as Australia, but how many days of sunshine did you actually get?

Speaker 3

因为我们出发的时候,已经是苏格兰夏末了。

Because we started like the back end of summer in Scotland.

Speaker 3

我觉得那几天天气简直太反复无常了。

I think we got like it was so bipolar.

Speaker 3

有三天简直下得跟倾盆大雨一样。

So we got three days where it like absolutely pissed down.

Speaker 3

其余的日子倒还过得去。

The remainder of the days weren't too bad.

Speaker 3

有一天下定决心要从昆斯敦过桥去爱丁堡,结果桥居然被封了,还站着几个警察。

And then there was one day where like we were supposed to cross over this bridge from Queenstown to Edinburgh and like they literally like had closed off the bridge and there was these officers standing there.

Speaker 3

我们跟他们说,我们正在横穿全国跑步,为慈善筹款。

And like we said to them, like, we're trying to run across the country to raise money for cancel.

Speaker 3

我们已经跑了35公里了,今天至少得跑满45公里。

We're about 35 Ks and we need to track at least 45 today.

Speaker 4

我们必须得从这座桥过去。

We have to run over this bridge.

Speaker 4

进城就这一条路,别无选择。

There's no other way into town over like the other other than over this bridge.

Speaker 3

风速快到每小时八十英里,简直了。

And it was like 80 mile per hour, like winds.

Speaker 3

真的别无他法能过河。

And there was literally no other way over.

Speaker 3

那 guy 说:我不能直接放行,但你们确实不能上桥。

And so the guy's like, look, I can't like really stop, but like, you're not allowed to go over.

Speaker 3

所以我们干脆跳过那些路障,直接开跑。

So like, we just like jumped these fans and started running.

Speaker 3

结果那家伙还在那座该死的桥上拦着我们。

Anyway, he's like renting on this freaking bridge.

Speaker 3

这时候一辆车开过来,车里两个大个子苏格兰男人,估计都有一米九以上,我们俩站在那儿,跟霍比特人似的。

This car like comes and like these two guys are in there and they like, they're these big Scottish blokes, like probably both like six foot four and like, we're like little hobbits.

Speaker 4

他们整个人看起来就像神一样。

They all make, they're like really gods.

Speaker 4

他们说话带着浓重的苏格兰口音。

They're Scottish accent.

Speaker 3

你们俩在这儿干嘛呢?

Like what are you boys doing?

Speaker 3

我当时心想,天哪。

I'm like, holy shit.

Speaker 3

他真是气炸了。

That was so pissed off.

Speaker 3

后来他们开车把我们送到了桥的另一边,那儿有我们的支援团队。

Anyway, they ended up taking us in this car, like to the other side of the bridge where our support crew was.

Speaker 3

那天我们只好提前收工了。

And then we obviously had to like end the day.

Speaker 3

第二天一早,我们又得回到桥的另一边,重新开始当天的行程,因为那天风太大了,根本没法完成原定路线。

So then the next morning we had to go back over to the other side of the bridge and then restart the day from from that side of the bridge because we literally weren't able to finish our run on that day because the winds was like nothing you've ever seen before.

Speaker 3

开车过桥的时候,我们其实还挺庆幸自己没硬撑,因为那风大得感觉车随时会被刮下桥去。

And we're almost glad we were because when they were driving us over in the car, felt like the car was going to get like washed off the side of

Speaker 4

桥边。

the bridge.

Speaker 4

是的,他们连车都封了,不让过桥。

Yeah, they actually cut off the bridge to cars as well.

Speaker 4

那时候车根本没法通行了。

So cars couldn't crash at this point.

Speaker 4

我们的支援团队早就提前几个小时过去了,来回穿梭的只剩一辆警车,专门负责护送我们。

Our support crew had already leapt over by a couple hours before, but the only car going back and forth was the security car, which essentially just escorted us all.

Speaker 2

对,这场景真像苏格兰。

Yeah, that sounds like Scotland.

Speaker 4

没错。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1

刚一开始就这么混乱,还碰上这么多突发状况,尤其是还得重新应对之前那些复杂的安排。

Already logistically off the jump, to have all that crazy stuff kind of happen, especially going over all the logistical craziness that you did on the first thing.

Speaker 1

估计心里就一个念头:天啊,又得再来一遍了。

Probably just kind of like, Oh my gosh, well, here we go again.

Speaker 1

我知道我们一直都在提这个故事,但越聊下去,我就越觉得,拉克兰,你真是经历了一番磨难。

And I know we've been alluding to the story, which the more that we're talking about, I'm like, Lachlan, man, you've had I mean, through the ringer through these experiences.

Speaker 1

但你跟我们说说这个故事吧,我觉得这可能是我听过的所有超马经历里最疯狂的一个。

But talk to us about this story, because this might be the craziest story in all of our Ultra Ring I think I've personally ever heard.

Speaker 1

这也再次体现了你们惊人的心理韧性。

And this also, again, speaks to your guys' mental toughness.

Speaker 1

光是听第一个故事,我就敢说,你们俩绝对是我在这项运动里见过的心理素质最强的两个人,经历了这么多还坚持下来。

I think even just hearing that first story, I think I would safe to conclude that I think you guys are two of the most mentally tough people I've ever met in the sport, just with everything that you've gone through.

Speaker 1

所以首先,我想先说一句,这算是为接下来的故事做个铺垫。

So I'm gonna first and foremost say that just to preface the story.

Speaker 1

其次,你赶紧跟我们讲讲,后来到底发生了什么疯狂的事。

But secondly, please tell us the craziness that ensued on this one.

Speaker 4

是的,当然可以。

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4

我先简单回溯一下前因。

So just to quickly give a little bit of a backtracking story.

Speaker 4

澳大利亚这段和英国这段的区别在于,我们去英国的时候,目标是走得更远。

So the difference between the Australian run to The UK run, we knew The UK, we wanted to travel further.

Speaker 4

所以我们每天得走大约47公里,才能在35天内完成。

So around about 47 kilometers a day to do it in thirty five days.

Speaker 4

于是,在去英国的八个月前,我们搬到了澳大利亚维多利亚高地的一个偏远地方。

So what we did was eight months before The UK, we actually moved out into like basically off the grid in the Victorian Highlands in Australia.

Speaker 4

我们租了一间林中的小木屋。

So we pretty much like leased out a cabin in the woods.

Speaker 4

没带任何电子设备,就只带了手机。

We took no electronics, just our phones.

Speaker 4

只带了床和床垫。

And we just took our bed, our actual like mattresses.

Speaker 4

连床架都没要。

We didn't even have bed frames.

Speaker 4

我们就住在那儿,每天最少走或跑两到三个小时,上下山锻炼,为英国这段做准备。

So we lived out there and every day we'll do a minimum of two to three hours of just like walking and running up and down the Hills to prepare for The UK.

Speaker 4

所以我们到了英国,到了第二十七天,感觉状态还不错。

So we go to The UK and then like twenty seven days in, we're actually feeling like pretty good.

Speaker 4

觉得这事儿挺有戏的。

We're like, this is great.

Speaker 4

肯定能顺利完成。

We're gonna, we're going get this thing done.

Speaker 4

还剩八天,不过其实这最后八天本来就要走不少路,我们已经提前攒了点余量。

We've got like another eight days, but we saved a bit of like, we had a lot of distance to travel in these last eight days anyway.

Speaker 4

我们在英格兰穿过一片片农场,路线都是临时定的,没提前规划。

So we're running like in England through like these farms and we went like we clicked because we weren't planning out routes in-depth.

Speaker 4

每天都是走一步看一步。

We were just going on the fly every day.

Speaker 4

一天走大概四十八公里,往南走,就打开地图随便点个目的地,让车往前开十公里,然后扔个标记。

Like we're going around 48 kilometers, like south, let's just click go on maps and let's just make the van like 10 ks up and just drop a pin.

Speaker 4

我们没在那种长满高草的农场里跑。

So we're not running through like these, like farms with really high grass.

Speaker 4

总之,我发现还剩十四公里,但最近的补给点只有两公里远。

And anyway, I'm like, we have 14 kilometers in and the pit stop was two kilometers away.

Speaker 4

我们通常每八公里就停一次,喝点水,吃点东西。

Cause we usually have pit stops every eight kilometers where we just get a quick drink and a bit of a bite to eat.

Speaker 4

我就问斯黛芙:你的脚是不是被这些草痒得受不了了?

And I'm like, Steph, like, are your feet really itchy from these grass?

Speaker 4

这到底怎么回事?

Like what the hell is going on?

Speaker 4

这些草简直痒得要命。

This grass is like so itchy.

Speaker 4

我跑进补给点的时候,已经走了十六公里,结果发现脚上过敏了。

Anyway, so I'm running into the van pit stop 16 ks and I'm like, oh, I've an allergic reaction on my feet.

Speaker 4

我得赶紧把鞋脱了。

I've to take my shoes off.

Speaker 4

在补给点,我整个人都在发抖。

And I'm like jittering and shaking at the pit stop.

Speaker 4

我脱了鞋一看,脚趾头周围有点发红,还起了水泡。

Anyway, I took my shoes off and like, they were like a little bit red and blistered around.

Speaker 4

我当时就想,糟了,这过敏反应可不轻啊。

I'm like, shit, I heard a pretty bad allergic reaction.

Speaker 4

情况太糟了。

This is bad.

Speaker 4

不过那天我还是接着跑,大概跑了45公里左右。

Anyway, continued on that day for about, I think we did around 45 kilometers that day.

Speaker 4

那天晚上我上床时想,希望这过敏能快点消下去。

And I went to bed that night and I'm like, well, hopefully this allergic reaction goes down.

Speaker 4

第二天早上我一醒来,低头看脚,好家伙,脚上像被上千只黄蜂蜇过一样。

Anyway, the next day I wake up and I look at my feet in bed and my feet look like they've been stung by a thousand wasps.

Speaker 4

整个脚板红得发亮,全是大片大片的红肿。

Like they are literally red raw, like these huge red wilts all at my foot.

Speaker 4

我心想,这到底怎么回事?

And I'm thinking like, what the hell?

Speaker 4

我从来没遇过这么严重的过敏反应。

Like, I've never had an allergic reaction like this before.

Speaker 4

不过那天我们还是继续赶路,肠胃症状特别厉害。

Anyway, so we kept going in and on that day, like I had like really bad gastro symptoms.

Speaker 4

我当时根本不知道怎么回事,晚上洗澡时才发现,脚上水泡还是那么严重。

Like I didn't know like really what was going on, but turns out I go in the shower that night and I shower and I'm like, my feet are still like really blistered up.

Speaker 4

我心想,这味道怎么这么怪?

I'm thinking like, what is that smell?

Speaker 4

简直跟粪便一样臭。

Like, it smells like actual shit.

Speaker 4

我低头一看,浑身都沾满了棕色的污物,洗澡的时候还带着粪便在车里。

And I looked down and I'm quite literally like brown and I'm being showered and shit in the van.

Speaker 4

这到底是什么情况?

What is like, what is going on?

Speaker 4

洗完澡我冲出去,大喊大叫。

Anyway, I go out of the shower, I'm like screaming.

Speaker 4

我当时想,因为妈妈一直支持我们出行。

I'm like, because our mom was support going.

Speaker 4

她当时正在英国旅行。

She was in The UK traveling.

Speaker 4

所以她特别贴心,帮我们请了摄影师。

So she was like, so kind to support for us with a videographer.

Speaker 4

我就问妈妈:你到底对房车的水做了什么?

I'm like, mom, like, what have you done to the van water?

Speaker 4

因为前一晚我们待在橄榄球俱乐部。

Because we sat at a rugby club the night before.

Speaker 4

呃,不对,是前两晚,她说她把水箱灌满了橄榄球俱乐部的水。

And well, sorry, two nights before and she goes, oh, I filled it up with like the water, the rugby club.

Speaker 4

我就说:你不会灌的是那种灰水吧?就是污水。

And I said, oh, not like the gray sewage water.

Speaker 4

她回答:哎呀,我也不知道啊。

And she's like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4

就是房车旁边那个水龙头。

Just like the tap next to the van.

Speaker 4

结果发现,妈妈给房车加的其实是灰水,就是那种污水。

Anyway, turns out that mom had filled the van up with like gray sewage water.

Speaker 4

那天我们喝了整整五升水,还有好几个500毫升的水袋,本来还往里加了电解质,但水都泛着深蓝色,根本看不清颜色。

And that day we had drunk like five liters of water and these 500 mil bladders and it tasted, we're putting like electrolytes in them and we couldn't really cause I like really tinted blue, like bladders.

Speaker 4

虽然看不出颜色,但那天的水味道特别怪。

You couldn't really see the color of it, but it did taste like really off that day.

Speaker 4

我们根本不是慢慢喝,而是拼命挤,一股脑儿灌下去,然后马上接着跑。

And we were kind of, cause we weren't like sipping on water, we're just like squeezing it as hard as we can, Got it straight down the back of the throat and then we're running.

Speaker 4

结果我和斯蒂夫都喝了不少。

So it turns out basically I drunk like and Steph drunk a lot as well.

Speaker 4

他肠胃直接垮了,差不多喝了五升脏水。

So he had really bad gastric tube, but basically around five liters of shit.

Speaker 4

不过说真的,现在回想起来还挺搞笑的。

And anyway, so I know it's it's very funny.

Speaker 4

所以肠胃差到极点。

So gastro, like, really bad.

Speaker 4

我这辈子没这么难受过。

So I had the biggest bug ever.

Speaker 4

这简直太离谱了。

I'm like, this is crazy.

Speaker 4

不过还是继续往前走。

Anyway, kept going.

Speaker 4

第二天早上,我醒过来,已经是第29天了。

Next morning, I wake up day 29.

Speaker 4

那天是住院的第29天吗?

Was that '29 of the hospital day?

Speaker 4

是第31天吗?

Was that '31?

Speaker 3

是第30天。

'30.

Speaker 3

第三十天。

'30.

Speaker 3

就是第三十天。

It was thirty.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

第29天早上我醒过来,低头一看脚,天哪,那些红得吓人的肿块居然变成紫色了。

So day 29, I woke up in the morning and I looked down at my feet and I'm like, Oh my God, these red massive wilds have actually turned purple now.

Speaker 4

它们全变成紫色了,一大片一大片的,看起来像被咬的包,结果都连成一片了。

So they're like purple and they're almost like all these massive, like bites, well they appear to be like bites, have like started to merge together.

Speaker 4

就像最大的那个肿块要成型了。

And it was like the big mama was forming.

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我整张脸都开始冒出巨大的紫色肿块,鼓得从皮肤里凸出来,我盯着看,心里直骂:这玩意儿真他娘的痒。

Like my whole face started getting like these huge purple welts and they started protruding out of my skin and I'm looking down at it and I'm like, holy shit, this shit's like itchy.

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我盯着它,就像个浑身发抖的瘾君子一样。

Like I'm looking at it like I'm a bloody, like drug addict that's shaking.

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简直痒得要命。

Like this really freaking itchy.

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我真想现在就把脚给剁了。

Like I I just wanna, like, almost rip my feet off at this point.

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我低头一看,它们红得发紫,特别明显。

Anyway, I'm looking down at them and you can see, like, they're so purple and red.

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我能看见自己心跳的搏动透过脚上的皮疹透出来。

Can see my heart pulsating through the lesions in my feet.

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结果突然间,那天我们正在跑步,跑了16公里后,我对斯蒂夫说:我得把鞋脱了。

Anyway, all of a sudden, we're running that day and 16 kilometers in, I go like, Steph, I need to take my shoes off.

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这事儿简直太离谱了。

Like, this is the craziest thing ever.

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我低头一看,那些皮疹已经开始蔓延到手上,还往上爬到了腿和胳膊上。

And I'm looking down and they're like these like lesions, so they're like they're starting to spread to my hands and they're starting to like go up my legs and arms.

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已经爬到膝盖了,连手肘也遭了殃。

Like, so they've made their way to my knees and they've made their way to my elbows.

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它们正朝着我的心脏蔓延。

Like they're going towards my heart.

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我心里想,这到底怎么回事?

I'm thinking like, what the hell?

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我这完全是被那草给过敏炸了,兄弟。

Like, I've got a freaking mad allergic reaction from that grass, bro.

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我们就去了药房,他们给了我们一些抗组胺药膏。

So we went to the chemist, they gave us some like antihistamine cream.

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他们说这瓶药本来能用十六天。

I'm like, they said the bottle was supposed to last sixteen days.

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我一下子就用掉了一半,当晚又把剩下的一半全用光了,可一点用都没有。

And I used half the bottle like straight away and then the other half of the bottle that night and nothing was working.

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这东西痒得简直没法忍。

Like this stuff was just so itchy.

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突然间,我每隔一小时就开始发抖。

And all of a sudden I just start like shaking every like hour.

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我根本停不下来发抖。

I just can't stop shaking.

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就像癫痫发作一样,一直在抖,怎么都停不住。

Like it's like I'm having like an epileptic seizure and I keep shaking and I can't stop shaking.

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那天晚上我上床睡觉,平时戴着我的Whoop和衣服,心率通常很低,大概在35到37之间。

And I go to bed that night and usually, because I'm wearing my whoop and my my garment, usually my heart rate is very low, around about it's like between like 35 to 37 beats.

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可那天晚上,我静息心率居然飙到了70。

And my heart rate is like 70 beats resting.

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对。

Mhmm.

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躺在床上,整个人像火炉一样。

And I'm in bed like a furnace.

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我热得不行,真的特别热。

Like, I am so, so hot.

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可外面气温才11度左右。

And outside, it was around, like, 11 degrees.

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所以那会儿还挺凉快的。

So it was pretty cool.

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但我整个人热得不行。

And I'm, like, so hot.

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这情况真的太糟了。

I'm, like, this is really bad.

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别忘了,我肠胃那边也一直不舒服。

Keep in mind, I keep got the gastro symptoms.

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结果第二天早上,我一醒来,才走了11公里,就突然扯着嗓子喊起来。

Anyway, that next day, I wake up, and we get 11 kilometers in and I start like screaming at the top of the lungs.

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我对斯蒂芬说:快帮我把鞋脱了。

I'm like, Steph, I get my shoes off.

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疼得受不了了。

This is so painful.

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赶紧把鞋给我脱了。

Like, get my shoes off.

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总之,我们就停在路边了。我们有个规矩,只要还没到面包车就停下来,那就直接去医院。

Anyway, so Steph, like we stopped on the side of the road and we have a rule that if we ever ever stop before we get to the van, it's straight to hospital.

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因为一旦停下来,就说明情况真的很严重。

Like that is our mentality because that is when something is really bad.

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其实我们从来没在半路放弃过。

We've actually never failed a leg ever.

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我们总是能走到面包车那儿。但那天我真的跟Steph说,我实在穿不进鞋了。

We always get to the van And this was the only day I'm like, Steph, I I physically, like, I can't wear my shoes.

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所以我赶紧把鞋子和袜子都脱了,那路面简直太扎人了。

So I ripped off my shoes and socks and the road is like the spikiest road ever.

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我光着脚跑,脚肿得特别厉害,鞋帮都被我剪掉了一大块,因为脚肿得比原来大了一倍。

So I'm running on these like feet that are literally like so big, I've had to cut the sides of my shoes out because my feet are like double the size, they're so swollen.

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鞋子里全是血和脓,到处都是。

And there's just blood and pus like all in my shoes everywhere.

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我就这么光着脚在那路上跑,感觉那些尖刺都快扎到脚底了。

And I'm just running barefoot on this road and it's like these spikes are like going to the bottom of my foot.

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我一直在大喊大叫。

I'm just screaming.

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我开了大概两百米。

I drove like 200 meters.

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拉克兰跟我说

Lachlan tells me

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他要光着脚走完最后二百八十九公里。

he's gonna do the last two eighty nine k's barefoot.

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因为我实在没法把袜子和鞋子穿上。

And I'm like, because I couldn't put my socks and shoes on.

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疼得根本受不了。

It was unbearable.

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我一直在大喊大叫。

I'm screaming.

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后来实在撑不住,就直接躺在路边了。

And then I just like, eventually just like, lied on the side of the road.

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我眼睛都快哭干了。

I was just blowing my eyes out.

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我对斯特凡说,我真的走不动了,身体完全撑不住了。

I'm like, Stefan, I I I physically don't think I can walk.

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在正式开始本期节目之前,我得说一件事。

Before we dive in the episode, I have to address one thing.

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大多数跑步补给产品简直糟糕透顶。

And that thing is most running nutrition products absolutely suck.

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它们差劲是有原因的。

And they suck for a few reasons.

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首先,我可以肯定地告诉你,大多数跑步补给吃多了会让人腻得不行,嘴巴又黏又甜,甜味在嘴里挥之不去,根本没法再吃下去。

First and foremost, I can tell you most running nutrition products, they give you palate fatigue, and it is so hard to continue to eat sports nutrition when your mouth is just super sticky and sugar coated and that sweet taste just rings in your mouth.

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这问题越来越严重。

It just becomes a problem.

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一旦不吃东西,情况就会彻底失控。

And when you don't eat, it just spirals out of control.

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其次,在高碳水补给的世界里,你通常只能二选一:要么高碳水低钠,要么高钠低碳水。

Secondly, in the world of high carb fueling, it looks like you can either choose between a high carb, low sodium option or a high sodium, low carb option.

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但你实际上同时需要钠和高碳水。

And you need both sodium and high carbs out there too.

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那为什么不能两者兼得呢?

So why not have both?

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第三,很多产品成分太多,很容易让你肠胃不适。

And thirdly, a lot of options have a ton of ingredients that can potentially mess up your stomach.

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为了找到一个能满足这三点的产品,我试过一大堆补给品,最后选中了Hyperlite Liquid Performance——它在今年早些时候的科迪亚克100英里赛中帮了我大忙,之后我也一直用它来跑长距离,比如西部州100英里赛。

So in looking for a product that had all these three things, I tried out tons of nutrition products, and the one that I landed on that has been really, really helpful at Kodiak 100 miler earlier this year and one that I've been using in all my long runs for Western States is Hyperlite Liquid Performance.

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Hyperlite的成分非常少。

Hyperlite has minimal ingredients.

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味道很中性,真的就是很中性。

It has a neutral taste and an actually a neutral taste as well too.

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不会让你味觉疲劳,每份含有100克碳水化合物和1000毫克钠。

It doesn't give you pal fatigue, and it has a 100 grams of carbs and a thousand milligrams of sodium per serving.

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即使你不需要用这么多,也很容易分装,因为它的剂量是整数,让营养规划变得特别简单。

And even if you aren't using that high of an amount, it's easy to break it up because it has round numbers that makes nutrition planning super, super easy.

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而且我并不是唯一在用这个的人。

And I'm not the only one using this as well.

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EVERYDAYULTRA 的教练艾莉莎也在用,她刚在开普敦超级马拉松拿了第四名。

EVERYDAYULTRA Coach Alyssa uses this as well too, and she just placed fourth at Ultra Trail Cape Town.

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汉斯·特罗耶也在用,他刚赢得了 JFK50 赛事,跑出了该赛事历史上第二快的成绩,今年早些时候在西部山区赛也进了前十,靠的就是 Hyperlite 作为主要补给。

And it is also used by Hans Troyer, who just won JFK fifty and ran the second fastest time ever there and placed top 10 at Western States earlier this year using HYPERLYTE as his main nutrition.

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所以这不仅是我的最爱,也是许多顶尖耐力运动员的首选。

So not only is it one of my favorites, it is also the favorite of many great endurance athletes in the sport.

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最棒的是,它是由像我们这样的越野跑者打造的。

And the best part, it's created by ultra runners just like us.

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事实上,创始人今年早些时候各自跑了一场百英里赛,亲自测试产品,践行他们的理念,而且成功了。

In fact, the founders ran 100 milers each earlier this year too to put their product to the test and live out the ethos, and they succeeded.

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正因为它是越野跑者心中的理想之选,我们请他们提供了一个折扣码,他们也答应了。

So because they are an ultra runner's dream, we asked them to give you a discount code, and they did.

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他们给了我们一个15%的折扣码,你下次买HYPERLYTE时可以用。

They gave us a 15% discount code that you can use off your next order of HYPERLYTE.

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你只要访问 hyperlightliquidperformance.com,注意HYPERLYTE是h-y-p-e-r-l-y-t-e拼写,后面跟着liquidperformance.com,或者点节目简介里的链接

So if you go to hyperlightliquidperformance.com and hyperlight is spelled h y p e r l y t e, and then liquidperformance.com, or go to link in

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节目简介里。

the show notes.

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你可以

You can

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输入代码EVERYDAY ULTRAPOD,下单立减15%。

use code EVERYDAY ULTRAPOD get 15% off your order.

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去 hyperlightliquidperformance.com 下单,或者通过节目简介里的链接,都能享受15%优惠。

That's 15% off your order when you go to hyperlightliquidperformance.com, or go to link in the show notes and get 15% off your order.

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试试看吧,跑起来,用真正为越野跑者设计、对越野跑者友好的营养补给。

Give them a try, ramble on, and use running nutrition that is actually designed for ultra runners and good for ultra runners.

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另外特别感谢Janji,这是我目前最爱的越野跑服装品牌。

Also wanna give a huge shout out to Janji, which is my favorite trail running apparel on the market.

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尤其是在即将到来的炎热季节里。

Especially when it comes to the hotter months coming up.

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你需要一套能帮你保持凉爽、穿着舒适还不磨皮肤的越野跑装备。

You need trail running equipment that is going to help to keep you cool and also feel good without chafing you out there.

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所以我所有高温比赛都穿Janji,包括即将参加的西部山区100英里和巴德沃特135英里。

And that's why I wear Janji for all my hot races, including Western States one hundred and Badwater one hundred thirty five coming up.

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我最推荐的是全天跑步T恤,穿起来特别凉快,也不会磨皮肤;还有那款两用多功能短裤,同样不磨皮肤,我特别喜欢它的压缩内衬,就算被汗水浸透、用上降温喷雾,依然舒服得很。

My favorite items are the Run All Day Tee, which keeps me nice and cool and also does not chafe me and the two in one multi shorts, which again does not chafe and I love the compression liner because it's nice and comfortable even when I get soaked through the sweat and topical cooling out there.

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而且还有多个口袋,特别实用。

And it's got pockets for storage, are really, really useful.

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如果你想买我推荐的这些Janji单品,或者看看我其他最爱的装备,就去janji.com/everdayultra看看吧。

So if you want to shop those and all my other favorite items at Janji, go to janji.com/everdayultra to check out my favorites.

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赶紧去试试,别忘了用Janji升级你的跑步装备。

Go grab them, go give them a try, and make sure that you're upgrading your apparel with Janji.

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好了,各位。

Alright, everyone.

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咱们继续听下一段吧。

Let's get back in the episode.

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后来,斯蒂芙打电话给妈妈和多姆,也就是我们的支援团队,我被直接送进了医院。

Anyway, Steph calls mom and Dom, our support crew, and I get rushed straight to hospital.

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我在医院里,被推到前台,因为已经站不起来了,只能坐在轮椅上。

So I'm in this hospital and we go to the front and I'm I'm in this wheelchair because I can't stand anymore.

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到了接待处,我那时候已经说不出话了。

And we go to the reception and I'm like, can't speak at this point.

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我抖得太厉害,完全没法开口说话。

I'm shaking so much that I physically cannot speak anymore.

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斯蒂芙就跟护士说:这是紧急情况,他出问题了。

And Steph's like to the lady, is an emergency, something's wrong.

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她可能以为我中暑了,或者别的什么状况。

Like he didn't know maybe I had like rad dough or something going on.

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我们当时也不清楚到底发生了什么。

We didn't really understand what was going on.

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