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孩子让你快疯了，想找一个全家都能玩得开心的地方吗？
Are your kids driving you crazy and you're looking for a place to go where everyone can have fun?
是的。
Yes.
让大家都放下手机，一起去美丽的国家公园，开启精彩的户外冒险吧。
Get everyone off their screens and go on amazing adventures together in a beautiful national park.
点击我们的免费清单，按月份查找最适合游览的国家公园，规划你的夏日冒险。
Find your summer adventure with our free list of the best national parks to visit by month.
前往 dirtinmyshoes.com/month 注册获取。
Sign up at dirtinmyshoes.com/month.
大家好。
Hey, friends.
我最近一直在处理一些健康问题，所以为了休养，我们会暂时停止录制新的播客节目。
I have been dealing with some ongoing health issues, so we'll be taking a short break from recording new podcast episodes while I recuperate.
在休整期间，我们打算重新发布一些2023年的精选往期节目，供大家重温。
During the break, we thought it would be fun to republish some of our favorite episodes from the 2023 archives.
真不敢相信我们已经做播客这么久了。
Can you believe we've been podcasting that long?
我们特意为你挑选了这些节目，真期待你来听。
We've handpicked these episodes for you and can't wait for you to listen.
我们很快就会回来，推出新的节目。
We will be back with new episodes really soon.
在这期间，你可以通过留下五星评价、收听并分享你最爱的节目，或者购买行程规划来支持我们。
In the meantime, you can show your support by leaving a five star review, listening to and sharing your favorite episodes, or purchasing an itinerary.
我依然会每周更新行程规划，确保你为下一次旅行做好充分准备。
I will still be updating my itineraries weekly and making sure you have everything you need for your upcoming trips.
你完全可以期待和过去十一年里一样的精彩体验。
You can absolutely expect the same incredible experience I've been providing for the past eleven years.
现在放松下来，享受这段2023年的精彩节目吧。
Now sit back and enjoy this entertaining episode from 2023.
这里是《探索国家公园》播客，由《鞋底沾泥》出品。
This is the exploring the national parks podcast with Dirt in My Shoes.
我叫阿什，以前是国家公园的护林员，也是《鞋底沾泥》的创始人。
My name is Ash, and I'm a former park ranger and the founder of Dirt in My Shoes.
我觉得公园最好的体验方式就是走在步道上，我在这里就是要让规划国家公园之旅变得简单。
I think that the parks are best seen from the trail, and I'm here to make national park trip planning easy.
我是约翰。
And I'm John.
我负责背着孩子走山路。
I carry the kids on the trails.
我爱讲各种故事，还特别留意阿什不太在意的东西，比如树木。
I tell stories, and notice all the things that Ash doesn't care about much, like trees.
跟着我们，一起逛遍美国那些壮丽的国家公园。
Join us as we show you around America's spectacular national parks.
我们会分享我们最爱的地方、有趣的知识、冒险经历，还有那些出岔子的糗事。
We're sharing our favorite places, fun facts, adventures, and misadventures.
顺便还会给点旅行规划的小建议。
And we'll even throw in a little trip planning.
咱们开始探索吧。
Let's start exploring.
今天我们要挑战一条终极步道。
It's going down the ultimate trail rumble.
太棒了。
Woo hoo.
我们要来排名一下我们徒步过的最爱的国家公园步道。
We are ranking our favorite national park trails that we have hiked.
待会儿可要吵起来了。
We're going to be fighting.
这期节目肯定火药味十足，因为我们各自列了份清单，看看谁能胜出。
There's gonna be some fighting words in this episode because each of us made our own list, and we are going to see who comes out victorious.
没错，各位听众。
Yes, ladies and gentlemen.
我们都各自排了前十名，从第一到第十。
We've each ranked, what is it, one through 10, all of our top 10.
规则呢，我刚跟艾什解释过了，因为她不知道咱们怎么打分。咱们要比较第十名对第十名，第九名对第九名，一直到第一名对第一名。
And the rules, as I have just explained to Ash because she didn't know how we were gonna be able to score this thing, We're going to compare tens versus tens, nines versus nines, all the way up to one versus one.
然后根据每个排名位置上谁的步道更出色来决定得分。
And then we'll decide points based on who had the better trail for each of those ranking positions.
所以。
So
明白了。
Yeah.
我还是不太懂。
I still don't understand.
我觉得我的列表很棒。
I think that my list is great.
我相信你的列表不错，但我的更胜一筹。
I'm sure you have a great list but mine is better.
我不确定能不能改变我对国家公园里最爱步道的看法。
I don't know if you can change my own opinion about my favorite trails in the national park.
不过这样聊一聊我们最爱的徒步路线，也能让你知道有哪些步道值得加进自己的愿望清单里。
So but it will be a fun way to talk about our favorite hiking trails and to let you know what trails you might wanna add to your own bucket list.
对。
Yes.
我们一家人都特别喜欢徒步。
We are a hiking family.
每次去国家公园，我们都会去走走步道。
We love hiking whenever we go to the national parks.
我们喜欢带着孩子上路，让他们体验一些特别有趣的事。
We love getting our kids on the trail and making them do some really fun things.
说实话，我也不太确定。
And so I don't know.
一起聊这些事儿还挺有意思的。
It's kinda fun talking about these things together.
就像我昨天跟Ash聊的那样，我都没告诉她我选了哪些路线，说实话，这期节目可能会让你和伴侣吵起来。
And I feel like as I was discussing with Ash yesterday, not giving her any of my picks or choices, you know, this is the episode that will turn you against your spouse.
这期节目肯定会引发最多乐趣，但也会让你们和最好的徒步伙伴吵得最凶。
This is the episode that will cause the most fun, but also, like, the most disagreement between you and your best hiking buddy.
哪条步道比哪条更好？
Which hikes are better than which hikes?
你更想走哪一条？
Which one would you rather do?
这事儿特别有意思，吵起来也特别带劲。
So it's such a fun thing, but it's a fun argument to have.
我太喜欢这个了。
I love this.
我简直太期待了。
I'm so excited.
好的。
Okay.
在我们开始列清单之前，我得先说几点说明。
Before we jump into our list, I have a couple of disclaimers here.
第一个声明，我特别偏爱高山。
Disclaimer number one, I am heavily biased towards big mountains.
没错。
Yes.
我得提前说明一下，我列表里的很多步道，纯粹是因为我觉得那些高山路线无可替代。
So I feel like I have to put that out there because a lot of the trails on my list are just because I think that those big mountain trails are unbeatable.
是的。
Yeah.
记住这一点。
Keep that in mind.
我并不是讨厌沙漠，或者小山，或者没山的地方。
It's not that I have anything against, like, the desert or smaller mountains or no mountains.
对。
Mhmm.
我只是特别喜欢山。
It's just that I love mountains.
没错。
Right.
我觉得我的清单也偏向于山地路线。
And I think my list is a little bit skewed towards mountains as well.
而且总的来说，我想直接说，爬山是最棒的徒步体验。
And I think for the most part, I'm gonna go ahead and just make the claim that mountains are the best thing to hike in.
如果你不同意，欢迎在评论里留言，或者类似的做法。
And so if you disagree, leave us a comment or something like that.
我不确定。
I don't know.
还可以给我发邮件，顺便送点花，你知道的。
And send me an email with flowers, you know.
好的。
Okay.
第二个声明。
Disclaimer number two.
我写清单的时候发现，能去的徒步路线实在太多了，真的。
I found as I was writing my list, was like, there are so many cool hikes Yes.
在国家公园里。
In the national parks.
这可真难选。
This was hard.
但很多路线虽然特别棒、很有特色，还是没法跟那些顶尖的相比。
But like, a lot of these hikes, even though they're super cool or like super unique, they can't be compared to the heavy hitters.
没错。
Uh-huh.
你懂的。
You know?
所以，我的清单里确实塞了不少顶尖路线。
And so, yes, my list is full of a lot of heavy hitters.
不过我和约翰都觉得，咱们还得再做一期，专门讲那些不那么出名但特别有意思的步道。
But John and I both decided, like, we need to do another episode of trails that are not the heavy hitters that are super cool.
确实如此。
That's so true.
所以这个马上就要来了。
So it's forthcoming.
我们会做一期这样的内容。
We will do an episode like that.
但这一期特别要说的是，有些公园里的步道，说实话，根本没法被其他步道超越。
But this episode in particular, it's like there's some trails in the parks where it's just like, I'm sorry, but, like, there's nothing you can put above this trail.
确实如此。
That's so true.
你肯定能认出其中几个名字。
And you'll you'll definitely recognize some of the names of these.
如果你是个徒步爱好者，大概率能马上认出排名靠前的那几个。
If you if you are a hiker, you'll recognize some of the names probably at the top.
我在整理的时候发现，我的第6到第10名可能没阿什莉的那么出名，因为我有点特别，徒步时我有些特别偏爱的路线。
I discovered as I was doing this, my five my six through 10 may not be as big of heavy hitters maybe as Ashley's are because I've kinda weird, and I have some specific things that I really love when I go hiking.
所以我觉得，这部分对话对我来说会更有趣。
So we'll that I think that for me is gonna be the more interesting part of this conversation.
好的。
K.
第三个注意事项。
Here's the third disclaimer.
我列清单的时候，尽量避免反复选同一个公园的步道。
Third disclaimer is when I was making my list, I was trying not to choose trails in the same park over and over.
对。
Mhmm.
我也是。
Me too.
所以我尽量分散开，一共用了十个不同的公园和十条不同的步道。
So I tried to spread it out between I think I did 10 different parks and 10 different trails.
但说实话，我完全可以用大提顿、冰川和雷尼尔山的步道填满整张清单。
But let's be honest, I could have filled my whole list with trails from Grand Teton Glacier and Mount Rainier.
那些是我最喜欢的徒步公园。
Those are my favorite hiking parks.
对。
Mhmm.
这些公园里的有些步道，对我来说比列表上其他公园的步道好太多了。
Some of the trails in those parks are so much better to me than trails in other parks that are on this list.
没错。
Right.
所以这就是我的说明。
So that's my disclaimer.
我虽然每个公园只列了一条步道，但并不意味着我觉得这些公园不该有更多步道入选。
Just because I only named one trail from each of those parks doesn't mean that I don't think there should be more trails on this list from those parks.
对。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yeah.
确实如此。
It's so true.
当时真纠结，到底该从锡安国家公园选几条路放上去呢？
It was kind of a difficult being like, how many from Zion can I put on here?
或者该选多少条才好。
Or how many yeah.
总之，我先不剧透太多。
It anyways, I'm not gonna give away too much yet.
是的。
Yeah.
好的。
Okay.
所以这些就是我的说明。
So those are my disclaimers.
那我们开始吧。
So let's get started.
约翰。
John.
第十号。
Number 10.
第十号。
Number 10.
我的第十条是，你肯定想不到。
My number 10 is you're gonna not believe this.
梅萨维德的长屋。
Long house from Mesa Verde.
我不讨厌它。
I don't hate it.
是的。
Yeah.
如果你没去过梅萨维德，或者根本不知道我在说什么，大多数人至少都见过梅萨维德的悬崖宫殿照片。
So if you haven't been to Mesa Verde or if you have no idea what I'm talking about, so most people have seen Cliff Palace or images at least of Cliff Palace in Mesa Verde.
长屋是另一个与悬崖宫殿非常相似的聚居地，只不过位于梅萨维德的另一个区域，而且得徒步才能到达。
Long House is another community or another palace very similar to Cliff Palace, but it's just in a different section of Mesa Verde, and you actually have to hike to it.
我觉得它其实比悬崖宫殿还要大。
And I actually think it's bigger than Cliff Palace.
我不太记得了。
I don't remember.
好像保存得没悬崖宫殿那么好。
It's like it wasn't, like, in as good of repair Right.
比起悬崖宫殿来说。
As Cliff Palace.
但去悬崖宫殿参观的时候，你根本没法靠近那些房子，只能在前面看。
But, like, Cliff Palace, when you take that tour, you don't get to actually, like, walk up by the buildings or anything.
他们总是让你待在前面。
They just keep you kinda down in front.
对。
Yep.
去长屋的话，你到处都能走动。
Long House, you're like all over.
你知道的。
You know?
你可以探头往窗户里看看，随便逛。
You're able to, like, peek your head into the windows and stuff.
还有两架十五英尺高的梯子，得爬上去才能进入长屋的不同区域。
And there's two fifteen foot ladders that you have to climb up to get into different sections of long House.
你要先往下走一英里半到一英里四分之一，才能到长屋，但到了之后还得来回穿梭、上下攀爬，导游带你看的每个地方都得靠爬梯子才能到达。
And so you hike down one and a half, one and a quarter miles down to the longhouse, and then you still you're going in and around and up and down, and you have to climb these ladders to get to different things that the tour guide is gonna show you.
特别有意思，还能学到很多东西。
It's so much fun, and you learn so much.
我觉得这是一次特别沉浸式的体验。
And I feel it's a very immersive experience.
我觉得你要是听完整个我的推荐清单，就会发现，我最喜欢的那些徒步，都是因为能让人深入体验某个具体的地方。
And I think that's what you'll notice when you hear my entire list is a lot of my hikes that I really enjoy, like, experiences in something specific.
对我来说，梅萨维德的长屋是我最身临其境的一次体验，我特别喜欢。
And for me, Long House in Mesa Verde was one of my most immersive experiences, and I loved it.
太棒了。
It's so cool.
你能了解古普韦布洛人的生活方式、居住环境，还能亲身走进去感受。
You get to learn about the ancient Puebloan people and how they lived, where they lived, and you get to be there and do it.
特别有趣，而且这条路也特别值得一走。
And it is so much fun, and it's a great hike.
我只想说一句关于长屋的事。
Let me just say one thing about Longhouse.
徒步本身其实没那么出彩。
The hike itself is not that cool.
没错。
Correct.
但到了那儿之后，真的值得。
When you get there, it's cool.
没错。
Right.
我在列清单的时候，也一直在纠结这个问题。
And that's something that I grappled with while I was making my list too.
到底是看重徒步的过程，还是看重终点呢？
Like, is it about the hike, or is it about the destination?
是过程，阿什。
It's the journey, Ash.
关键是过程。
It's about the journey.
对。
Yeah.
我不确定。
I don't know.
但如果真看重过程，那长屋就不算了，因为路不好走，可终点特别棒。
Well, if it is about the journey, then long house is out because the journey is not great, but the destination is really cool.
目的地也是旅程的一部分。
Destination is part of the journey.
我就是这个意思。
That's what I'm saying.
当你
When you
到达那里的时候，你会有
get there, you have
毕竟你全程都得保持活动状态。
to you're still having to be active.
可不是那种坐下来，拿出花生酱三明治吃完午饭，然后直接回去那么简单。
It's not like you just sit down, you take out your peanut butter sandwich, and you eat lunch, and then you head back.
这个我当然知道。
Well, I know.
但去长屋和从长屋回来的那段路，其实挺没意思的。
But the rest of the trail when you're going to and from Long House is not that interesting.
但这时候你就能从公园管理员那里学到很多东西。
But that's when you get to learn a lot of things from the park ranger.
我就是这个意思。
That's all I'm saying.
我就是这个意思。
That's all I'm saying.
我就把这话搁这儿了。
I'm just I'm leaving that there.
好。
K.
说说你的第十条吧。
Let's hear your number 10.
你知道吗？
Well, you know what?
不过我们刚才忘了说一句。
We forgot to say though.
我们要求每个人在清单上列出三条三英里以内的步道。
We did require each of us to put three trails on our list that were three miles or less.
这条就是我的之一，三英里以内。
And this is one of mine, three miles or less.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yes.
所以我们想在清单上多加一些短一点的步道，而不是全都是特别长特别难的路线。
So, you know, we wanted to put some smaller trails on this list instead of just having, like, big, massive, like, hard trails
没错。
Right.
每条都这样。
For everything.
所以我的第十条也是三条英里以内的步道之一。
So my number 10 is also one of my less than three miles trails.
我选的是——说实话挑这个可真不容易，我选了奥林匹克国家公园的索卢克瀑布。
And I chose oh, I had such a hard time with this, but I chose Solduck Falls in Olympic National Park.
哦，这样啊。
Oh, okay.
这是一条不错的徒步路线。
That's a nice hike.
确实是一条不错的徒步路线。
It's a nice hike.
索卢克瀑布往返一共1.6英里。
So Solduck Falls is 1.6 miles round trip.
对。
Mhmm.
所以路程很短。
So it's pretty short.
挺适合的。
It's a good one.
海拔只上升了60米左右。
It only gains 200 feet of elevation.
所以呢，这条路很平缓，也不长。
So again, you know, it's pretty flat and it's not very long.
不过我要给这条路线打个星标，因为我们特别喜欢在下午晚些时候、傍晚时分走这条线。
I do put an asterisk next to this one because we love hiking this one, like, in the late afternoon, early evening
对。
Mhmm.
等游客都走完了再去。
After the crowds have gone.
是的。
Yeah.
如果你在人多的时候来，就不会觉得它有那么神奇。
So if you do this one during the busy part of the day, you will not think it's as magical as you will.
要是等到傍晚，太阳快下山的时候去，那种氛围才特别梦幻。
If you go later in the day when the sun is starting to set and you have more of it's ethereal.
特别神奇。
It's magical.
我喜欢这个地方，因为一路上都是古老的原始森林，对。
I love the area because you've got the big old growth forest Mhmm.
你走在其中。
That you're walking through.
这条步道本身非常棒。
The trail itself is really nice.
然后你会来到一个充满瀑布、青苔和薄雾的仙境，好吧。
And then you get to this magical wonderland of waterfalls and moss and mist Okay.
还有雾气。
And fog.
阳光穿过树梢，温柔地洒在你身上，形成一道道彩虹，对。
And the sun comes through the trees and it hits you all in pretty ways and it makes rainbows Mhmm.
就在瀑布那里。
At the waterfall.
我是说，这么短的步道，能看到的景色简直完美了。
I mean, like, it just doesn't get better than that in that short of a trail.
对，而且瀑布本身，我不确定你有没有提过，水流从主河道分出来，至少分成三道不同的瀑布。
Well, and the waterfall itself, I'm not sure if you mentioned this, the waterfall, the way that it goes down, it splits from the river, and it splits into, like, at least three different waterfalls.
是的。
Yeah.
具体看水量，最多能分成四道。
Depending on the water flow, it can be anywhere up to, like, four
对。
Mhmm.
瀑布。
Waterfalls.
然后水流就直接冲进了峡谷里。
And it just, like, drops down into this gorge.
那儿有座特别上镜的桥横跨峡谷，你可以从桥上抬头看瀑布。
And there's this super picturesque bridge that goes up and over the gorge that allows you to look up into the waterfalls.
天啊，真的太梦幻了。
And, my gosh, like, it's just so magical.
我感觉就像置身于童话世界。
I just feel like I'm in a fairyland Mhmm.
在这条小径上。
On that trail.
确实非常漂亮。
It is really, really pretty.
我特别喜欢这条步道。
I do love that trail a lot.
这绝对是奥林匹克公园里我最喜欢的瀑布徒步路线之一。
It is probably one of my favorite waterfall hikes in Olympic for sure.
不过我不确定它能不能比得上那些规模堪比高中的原住民遗址。
But I'm not sure it beats out native American ruins the size of a high school.
所以
So
如果单论步道的话，那肯定是索尔达克胜过长屋。
Well, if we're going by trail, then it has to be Soldak over Long House.
但如果看目的地的话
But if we're going by destination
那还是索尔达克胜过长屋。
Then it could still be sold out over Long House.
拜托了。
Please.
你得想想啊，天哪。
You have to oh gosh.
长屋。
Long House.
梅萨维德那些古普韦布洛人的遗址，你知道的。
These Mesa Verde, you know, ancient Puebloan ruins.
我的意思是，它们有好几千年的历史了。
I mean, they're thousands of years old.
它们有多酷？
How cool are they?
确实挺酷的。
They are cool.
而且绝对比瀑布有意思。
And they beat a waterfall for sure.
我不这么认为。
Disagree.
美国的壮观瀑布比大型原住民遗址多得多。
There's more cool waterfalls in America than there are giant native American ruins.
问题在这儿。
Here's the problem.
我觉得我更愿意选阳台屋，而不是长屋。
I think I would choose balcony house over Longhouse.
但这根本算不上徒步。
But it's not really a hike.
我知道。
I know.
但问题就在这儿。
But that's the thing.
长屋根本算不上什么徒步路线。
Longhouse isn't a great hike.
它就是个特别酷的遗迹。
It's just a really cool ruin.
哦，
Oh,
天哪。
man.
我给自己加一分。
Giving myself the point.
我觉得这一局我赢了。
Think that I win that one.
我的意思是，国家公园里的步道差异太大了，确实如此。
I mean, that's the problem is the trails in the national parks are so varied Mhmm.
所以很难把它们放在一起比较，说哪一条更好。
That it's hard to even put them up against each other and say which one is better.
对。
Yeah.
这完全取决于你喜欢什么样的体验。
It's because it totally depends on what you like.
这话没错。
It's this is true.
别人问我们最喜欢哪个国家公园时，我们就会说，嗯……
When people ask us what our favorite national parks are, we're like, okay.
得看按什么标准来定。
Based on what criteria?
你是懂的。
You know?
我们说的不是一般意义上的最爱国家公园。
It's not what our favorite national parks are generally.
而是这样，嗯。
It's like, okay.
你到底拿什么标准来评判？
What are you judging upon?
你知道的。
You know?
是原住民的历史吗？
Is it Native American history?
是瀑布吗？
Is it waterfalls?
是山景吗？
Is it mountain vistas?
我们到底拿什么来评判这些动植物？
What are we judging this wildlife, plant life?
我们到底在评判什么？
What are we judging on?
没错。
Exactly.
至于第十名，我觉得我们是在评判印第安人的遗迹。
And for number 10, I think we're judging on Native American ruins.
不是这样的。
We are not.
我们是在评判那种神奇的感觉。
We're judging on the magic.
不是。
No.
结果阿什用她的解释把事情搞复杂了。
So flowery Ash got with her explanation.
天哪。
Goodness.
她从来不这么说话。
She never talks like that.
她只是想
She just wants
让我去做。
I to do.
不行。
No.
所以我才喜欢这个高度。
That's why I love that height.
真的。
Seriously.
你太酷了。
You're so cool.
我们没法给第十项选出赢家。
We can't decide on a winner for number 10.
但最后我们会把所有具体的清单都列出来。
But At the end, we'll list out all of our specific lists.
对。
Yes.
这样你们就知道我选了什么，约翰选了什么。
So that you know what I chose and John chose.
对。
Yes.
我来一一列出。
I'll list it out.
不过好吧。
But okay.
第九名。
Number nine.
我选的第九名是峡谷地国家公园的德鲁伊拱门。
Mine for number nine was Druid Arch in Canyonlands.
你早知道我会说这个。
You knew that was coming.
你昨晚就选了这个。
You had picked that last night.
德鲁伊拱门本来在我列表里，但后来划掉了，因为实在排不开时间。
Druid Arch was on my list, and it got scratched out because I couldn't fit it anywhere.
那条步道太棒了。
That trail is so cool.
好的。
Okay.
如果你不知道德鲁伊拱门是什么、在哪儿，我来简单介绍一下。
So if you don't know what Druid Arch is or where it is, let me kinda give you a little bit of a introduction to it.
德鲁伊拱门位于峡谷地国家公园的针区。
So Druid Arch is in the Needles District of Canyonlands.
针区是峡谷地国家公园的三个主要区域之一。
And the Needles District, it's one of the three different sections of Canyonlands.
你有天空岛，那是地势最高的区域。
You got Island In The Sky, that's the highest section.
针区稍微低一点，德鲁伊拱门就在那儿。
Needles is kind of the next level down, and then that's where you'll find Druid Arch.
那真是最壮观的拱门了。
And it is just the most amazing arch.
如果你见过仙灵拱门的照片，想象一下
If you've seen pictures of Delicate Arch, picture
它看起来就像一个阴森版的仙灵拱门。
It's like a it's like an evil looking Delicate Arch.
没错。
It's true.
德鲁伊这个名字用在这儿真是再贴切不过了。
Like, it really the druid name is perfect for it.
它真的看起来很邪门。
It looks evil.
我实在想不出别的词来形容了。
I don't know how else to describe it.
真的太酷了。
It's like it's so cool.
确实太酷了。
It is so cool.
我觉得它比梦幻拱门还要高。
I actually think it's taller than Delicate Arch 2.
去 Druid Arch 的路途特别有意思。
And the journey to get to Druid Arch is so much fun.
你简直就像印第安纳·琼斯，穿行在各个峡谷和窄缝之间。
You literally feel like you're Indiana Jones walking through these little canyons and slot canyons in different sections.
你要跟着石堆标志走。
You're following cairns.
你得踩着河床往前走。
You're walking through the river, like, bottoms.
那里通常没水，但你会一路爬过各种石头什么的。
There's not usually water in there, but, you know, you're, like, scrambling over rocks and stuff.
没错。
Exactly.
这趟徒步特别有意思，而我找一趟好徒步，最重要的就是要有冒险感。
It is such a fun adventure, and and that's one of the things I really look for in a great hike is an adventure.
而且这条路通常人不多，因为得花挺长时间才能走到那些石柱群。
And that one, it's not usually very busy because it takes a long time to get to the needles first So of
有多远啊？
how long is it?
单程大概十一英里。
Oh, the trail itself is 11 miles.
是的。
Yeah.
往返总共爬升大约一千六百英尺。
There and back, and you get in about 1,600 feet of elevation.
这真是一段不短的路程。
So it's quite a journey.
虽然挺费劲的，但简直太好玩了。
It's quite a bit of work, but, oh my gosh, it feels so much fun.
往返的路上特别有意思。
It feels like so much fun getting there and back.
那个拱门壮观极了。
The arch itself is magnificent.
往返途中，你一会儿绕这个弯，一会儿翻过那道坡，再绕另一个拐角。
And then the whole journey there and back, you're, like, going around this turn and up and over this and around that.
路上人很少。
You don't see that many people.
你会觉得自己是在独自探索这片区域。
You really feel like you're exploring this area on your own.
这条步道会让你有种几乎迷路的感觉。
It's one of those trails where you almost feel like you're lost.
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对。
Mhmm.
你感觉根本就不该出现在那儿。
Like, you don't belong there.
你只是一个人在荒野里走着，心里盼着能顺利走到目的地。
You're just kinda walking in the wilderness and hoping that you make it to the right spot.
是的。
Mhmm.
这正是它特别酷的地方。
Which is what makes it super cool for sure.
没错。
Exactly.
而且不到跟前，你根本看不到那个拱门。
And you can't even see the arch until, like, you're right there too.
是的。
Yeah.
所以你就想，真的假的？
And so you're like, really?
我要爬这个梯子？
I'm climbing up this ladder?
我要钻进这个洞里？
I'm going up this hole?
然后，就在那儿了。
And then it there it is.
砰。
Boom.
因为最后还得爬一段挺陡的岩石才能到观景台。
Well, because you've got a pretty good rock scramble at the end to get to the vista
对。
Mhmm.
那儿才能拍到德鲁伊拱门的全景。
That you can get a good picture of Druid Arch.
没错。
Right.
是啊。
So yeah.
这个我没法反驳。
I can't contest that one.
说实话，这个是我最喜欢的之一。
I mean, that one is one of my favorites.
我就知道你会把峡谷地的路线列进去。
I knew you were gonna put a trail from Canyonlands on your list.
对。
Yep.
因为峡谷地是你最爱的犹他州公园。
Because Canyonlands is your favorite Utah park.
我一直在犹豫，毕竟峡谷地有些地方真的——天啊。
And I went back and forth on I mean, Canyonlands has some really, really oh my gosh.
我刚想到另一个。
I just thought of another one.
不管怎样，那里的步道真的很棒。
Anyway, oh, it has some really good trails.
没错。
Yes.
我特别喜欢峡谷地。
I love Canyonlands.
我觉得峡谷地是犹他州最好的国家公园。
Best Utah National Park is my contention.
那你的第九名是什么？
But what's your number nine?
好的。
Okay.
我的第九名是我那三个‘三小时以内’景点中的一个。
My number nine is another one of my three under three.
这条步道不到三英里。
So it's an under three miles.
我把巴德兰兹国家公园的峡谷小径排在了这里。
I put the Notch Trail at Badlands National Park.
这条步道真不错。
That is a cool trail.
好。
K.
峡谷小径其实很短。
So the Notch Trail is again, it's a pretty short.
往返一共是一点五英里。
It's one and a half miles round trip.
对。
Mhmm.
海拔只上升了一百多英尺。
You only gain a little over a 100 feet of elevation.
大部分路程都要爬那架特别壮观的梯子。
And most of that is on that really epic ladder that you get to climb up.
真的太棒了。
It is so cool.
就是那种让人感觉特别特别棒的步道。
Like, it's just one of those trails.
说到让人感觉像探险的步道，这条简直绝了。
Speaking of, like, a trail that feels like an adventure, that one is so good.
对啊。
Mhmm.
如果你想找一条有趣又刺激的步道，说实话，终点并不是你走这条步道的主要原因。
If you're looking for a fun, adventurous trail, because the destination let's be honest.
走这条Notch步道，你不是为了终点才去的。
The end of the Notch Trail is not why you hike the Notch Trail.
没错。
Right.
你走Notch小径，就是为了爬那座超酷的梯子。
You hike the Notch Trail so you can go up the epic ladder.
然后你就沿着恶土的悬崖边徒步前行。
And then you're like hiking along the cliffs of the Badlands.
对。
Mhmm.
要是从边上掉下去，那可就完了。
You know, it's sudden death if you fall off the side.
开玩笑的。
Just kidding.
其实也没多高。
It's not that far of a drop.
这条小径我们也会带孩子来走。
But and this is a trail that we take our kids on.
只要牵好他们的手就行，不过想让他们上下那梯子，确实有点惊险。
We just make sure we hold their hands and, you know, it can be a little bit crazy trying to get them up that ladder and down that ladder.
是的
Mhmm.
但这条步道是我去过的所有国家公园里最刺激的短途路线之一。
But that is one of my favorite, like most adventurous short trails in any national park.
确实很酷。
It is really cool.
我很喜欢这条步道。
I like that trail a lot.
路上没有石堆标志，但有一些小标记，帮你认路。
And they don't have cairns, but they have, like, certain little markers to help you find your way.
要是没有这些标记，你根本找不到出口，因为这段路就像个迷宫，得自己慢慢摸索。
And without that, you would never find the end because it is such a cool little maze that you have to make your way through.
所以我挺喜欢Notch步道，也很爱Badlands。
So I do like the Notch Trail, and I love Badlands.
真是个绝佳的国家公园。
Such a good national park.
那里还有野牛，这让它比很多其他国家公园更胜一筹
And there's buffalo there, which makes it, you know, one step above lot of other national parks for
对我来说。
me.
没错。
Yeah.
我特别喜欢野牛。
So I love buffalo.
还有大角羊。
Buffalo and bighorn sheep.
大角羊特别多。
Lots of bighorn sheep.
是的。
Yes.
当然。
Absolutely.
所以啊，是的。
So I yeah.
我就是特别喜欢那条步道。
I just love that trail.
当我想到我最喜欢的短途步道时
When I think about, like, my favorite short trails
对。
Mhmm.
峡谷步道总是名列前茅，因为它实在太特别了。
The notch is, like, always near the top of the list just because it's so unique.
这种长度的体验，一般地方可遇不到。
It's not something you usually get to do at that length.
没错。
Right.
那这一轮谁赢了？
So who wins this round?
没人。
Nobody.
我。
Me.
我是说，德鲁伊小径确实不错，但你怎么能把一条11英里的步道和一条一英里半的步道拿来比较呢？
Well, I mean, Druid art is great, but how can you compare an 11 mile trail to a one and a half mile trail?
可以比。
You can.
你只要定个胜者就行，这正是我们正在做的事。
You just have to declare a winner, and that's what we're doing here.
我们本来就应该这么干。
That's what we're supposed to be doing.
你做得很好。
You're good.
行吧。
Okay.
我们很难给这个做出一个准确的评分。
We're not gonna be able to score this very properly.
所以你们在家听着的，就自己决定谁赢吧，我相信咱们看法会一致。
So you at home listening, you decide who wins, and I'm sure we'll be in agreement.
第八号。
Number eight.
好吧。
Okay.
这个我喜欢。
This one for me.
唉。
Ugh.
我特别喜欢八号步道。
I love my number eight trail.
我选的是国王峡谷国家公园的红杉山林区。
I chose the Redwood Mountain Grove in Kings Canyon National Park.
你还记得那个吗？
Do you remember that one?
对。
Yeah.
那真是让人惊叹。
That was oh my gosh.
好吧。
Okay.
我来给你解释一下。
Let me explain this to you.
这是世界上最大的红杉林。
So it is the largest Sequoia Grove in the world.
我记得我们在红杉国家公园的时候，还有好多步道要走，但我当时就想，这一个一定得去。
And so I remember when we were in Sequoia, we had so many other trails that we had to get done, and I was just like, oh, we have to get this one.
这一个一定得去。
We have to get this one.
最后我们终于在上次旅行快结束的时候去了，那真是最棒的一次体验。
And then we finally did it, like, right before the end of our trip last time, and it was the best experience.
这是最大的红杉林，而且你可以自己选择路线，因为林子里有好几条不同的环形步道。
The largest Sequoia Grove, and it's kind of a choose your own adventure because there's a few different loops that you can do around this grove.
那些树美得简直让人惊叹。
And the trees are just so beautiful.
不过有点遗憾，前不久那里发生了一场大火，部分区域不得不暂时关闭。
And it's a little bit sad because there was a big wildfire there pretty recently, and they had to kinda close it down a little bit.
有些红杉没能挺过来，但那里依然有数不清的红杉，棵棵都巨大无比，把你团团围住。
And some of the Sequoia trees didn't make it, But it's still got a zillion Sequoias there, and they're huge, and they're all around you.
我最喜欢红杉的一点，就是它们比周围的树大得多。
And my favorite thing about Sequoias is that they're so much bigger than the other trees around them.
你一眼就能看出来，因为它们的颜色不一样。
And so as you you can tell and they're a different color.
它们是明亮的橙红色，特别显眼，而且体型庞大得惊人。
They're like a bright orange, and you can see them, and they're just massive.
它们在其他树木中间特别显眼。
And they just stand out among the crowd among other trees.
沿着步道绕着这片树林走一圈，感觉就像置身于《侏罗纪公园》里一样。
And as you're going around this trail and kinda circling the grove, it's just like it feels like you're in Jurassic Park in a lot of ways.
太棒了。
It's so cool.
你想走多久都行。
And you can do it as long as you want.
全程最长能有十英里，不过我们当时只走了两三英里。
It can get up to as much as 10 miles, or you can do what we did, and we did, like, two to three miles.
这可是我最推荐的几个地方之一。
So it's one of my under threes.
简直完美。
It's awesome.
红杉国家公园和国王峡谷国家公园是最棒的国家公园之一。
Sequoia and Kings Canyon are some of the best national parks.
懂的。
Know.
我就想说这些。
That's all I have to say.
我在红杉和国王峡谷的几条步道上反复走了好几遍，因为实在太震撼了。
I went back and forth on a few trails in Sequoia Kings just because it's so epic.
对。
Mhmm.
那些树，你可能就觉得，哦，就是些大树而已。
And those trees, like, you might just be thinking, well, they're just big trees.
对。
Mhmm.
站在一片红杉林里，那种感觉是别的地方完全体会不到的。
There is nothing like standing in a grove of Sequoia trees.
没错。
No.
它们太惊人了。
They're amazing.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
我都能连续讲好几天它们。
I could talk about them for days.
我就是特别喜欢巨大的树木。
I just love big trees.
尤其是这些树，它们是地球上按体积计算最大的生物。
And these ones, especially, they're the largest by volume organism on the planet.
它们真的太大了。
They're so big.
是的。
Yeah.
还有，那条步道和其他许多穿越红杉林的步道一样，其实你根本不用走完全程。
So the cool thing about that trail too and a lot of trails in Sequoia Kings that go through the groves, I mean, you really don't have to do the whole thing Mhmm.
如果你不想的话。
If you don't want to.
对。
Right.
如果可以的话，还是去吧。
If you can, you should.
但像那条步道，你完全可以停好车，走几分钟就行。
But, you know, like that trail, you could easily just park and walk for a few minutes.
是的。
Mhmm.
那里挺安静的。
It's quiet enough.
那儿通常人不多。
There's not usually that many people there.
对。
Right.
所以在那些树林里，你很快就能找到一份宁静。
And so, you know, you find solitude pretty quickly in those groves of trees.
是的。
Yeah.
你知道，如果你想随便走走，或者只是坐下来静静感受，想干嘛都行，那地方真的特别适合。
You know, where you can kinda just if you wanna stroll for a minute, you just wanna sit and soak it in, whatever you wanna do, you know, it's, oh, such a great place for that.
对。
Yeah.
那个林子里有世界上最大的二十五棵树中的两棵。
And two of the biggest 25 trees in the world are in that grove.
其中一棵叫‘心树’，另一个名字我一时想不起来了。
And so one of them is named the heart tree, and I'm I'm blanking on the other one.
但它们真的太美了，你只要把手放在树干上，就能感受到这棵树已经三千岁了。
But, I mean, they're just so beautiful, and you can just put your hand on them, and you just realize this tree is, like, 3,000 years old.
它早在那么久以前就在这里了，经历了无数个冬天，还有好多别的事。
It was here so long ago, and it's seen so many winters, so many I don't know.
就是啊，摸着这么古老的东西，有种说不清的奇妙感，好像灵魂都连在一起了。
It's just there's something magical about putting your hand on something that ancient and just, like, I don't know, connecting your souls together.
我也说不好。
I don't know.
可能听起来有点肉麻，但确实挺有意思的。
It's a little bit cheesy, I guess, but it's just something fun.
所以这就是我的第八个。
So that's my number eight.
你的第八个是什么，阿什？
What's your number eight, Ash?
在说我的之前，我想提一下红杉国家公园里其他几条很棒的步道。
Before I jump to mine, there are some really good other trails in Sequoia that I was thinking about.
莫罗岩那条路特别好玩。
Moro Rock, that one is so fun.
哦，那条路
Oh, it's
我倒没想过这个，不过这条步道不到三英里。
so didn't think about that one, but that one would be a under three mile trail.
特别棒。
It's super cool.
对。
Mhmm.
还有泽姆瓦特草甸，我特别喜欢那条。
And Zemwat Meadow, loved that one.
那地方特别像优胜美地。
That one's like really like Yosemite.
没错。
Yes.
所以我超喜欢那条。
So I love that one.
对了，顺带一提，听你这么一说，我想起还有几条步道本来该进我的清单的。
Anyway, just side note, like, as you're saying that, I'm like, there are a few other trails that should have been on my list.
是的
Yeah.
我其实把密斯特瀑布排在第十四名。
I actually put Mist Falls as my number 14.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
那是一个
That's a
不错的路线。
good one.
我的前十名。
My top 10.
但如果你还记得国王峡谷的密斯特瀑布，那地方也特别棒。
But if you remember Mist Falls from Kings Canyon, that is incredible too.
是的
Yeah.
那个公园里有太多不错的徒步路线了。
So many good hiking trails in that park.
没错。
Yes.
好的。
Okay.
我的第八名。
My number eight.
我现在有点纠结，因为突然想起来漏掉了几条特别棒的路线。
I'm having some anxiety over my choices now because I'm realizing I forgot some really cool trails.
好的。
Okay.
我的第八名是拱门国家公园的魔鬼花园步道。
My number eight is the Devil's Garden Trail in Arches National Park.
哦，那条路特别好玩。
Oh, that one is so much fun.
好的。
Okay.
魔鬼花园步道往返大约七英里，如果去暗天使那边，路程会更长一点。
So the Devil's Garden, it's around seven miles round trip, a little bit longer if you decide to go out to the Dark Angel.
对。
Mhmm.
海拔上升也不算高，没什么大问题。
And it only gains elevation wise, it's not too bad.
大概就一千英尺的爬升。
It's like a thousand feet of elevation.
对。
Mhmm.
我刚才在想，到底哪条步道最让人惊艳，嗯……
I just I was trying to think more of like what trail is just so cool Mhmm.
在国家公园里。
In the national parks.
我特别喜欢这条步道。
And I love that trail.
首先，一路上你能看到至少八个拱门。
First of all, like, you can see like eight different arches Yeah.
走这条步道的时候，就能看到。
As you hike that trail.
对啊。
Mhmm.
那些拱门都特别有意思。
And they're like they're cool arches.
它们真的独一无二。
They're so unique.
没错。
Yeah.
你走在那些被称为‘鳍状岩’的狭窄岩壁上，拱门就是从这些岩壁上风化形成的。
And so you're, like, hiking on top of fins, which are, like, the narrow rocks that the arches eventually get carved out of.
你走在鳍状岩上，沿着石堆指引前行，整个过程特别有探险的感觉。
And so you're hiking on top of fins, and you're following cairns, and it's just really adventurous feeling.
然后你会岔开到各种小径上，去寻找沿途那些不同的拱门。
And then you're just going off all these little side trails to find all the different arches that are along the way.
接着你绕到背面去。
And then you get around to the back.
因为一旦你走到零号拱门——那是后面最出名、很多人专程来看的拱门——大多数人到那儿就原路返回了。
Because, like, once you get to 00 Arch, which is kind of the main arch back in there that a lot of people wanna see, a lot of people just turn around from there and go back the way they came.
对。
Mhmm.
但如果你继续往前走，那就正式进入了魔鬼花园的原始步道。
But if you go beyond that, then you're technically on what's known as the Primitive Trail Of Devil's Garden.
这条路上走的人少得多。
And this is one where just not as many people go on it.
你会在光滑的岩石上滑行，绕过一个个小水洼。
You're sliding down slick rock and going around little pools of water.
那边其实还有几个拱门。
And, you know, there's a couple more arches back there.
但我觉得，从真正冒险的体验和沿途能看到的精彩景色来说，恶魔花园绝对是我最推荐的路线之一。
But I just thought, you know, as far as, like, actual adventure and cool things that you get to see the whole way, I think Devil's Garden is just like it's so high on my list for those reasons.
哦，真的特别有意思。
Oh, it is so much fun.
确实如此。
And it really is.
这就跟我们之前聊过的德鲁伊拱门步道有点像。
It's kinda like when we were talking about the Druid Arch Trail.
这条步道特别有沉浸感，充满冒险气息，你一路上下攀爬，感觉就像印第安纳·琼斯在探险，随时可能撞见什么古老遗迹。
It's an immersive, adventurous trail, and you just feel like you're Indiana Jones going up and down over all these things, and you're just gonna find some ancient ruin or something right there.
你懂的。
You know?
太棒了。
It's so cool.
我也特别喜欢纳瓦霍拱门。
I also really like Navajo Arch.
没错。
Uh-huh.
因为当你站在纳瓦霍拱门底下抬头看，会觉得它好像在燃烧似的。
Because, like, if you're understanding under Navajo Arch and you kinda look up, it looks like it's burning.
砂岩这么一点点风化剥落，看起来就像那什么——特别带感的东西。
The way the sandstone is kind of eroding off of it, it looks like what's that cool fuck?
着火的房子。
The house on fire.
着火的房子。
The house on fire.
真的特别像。
It looks just like Yeah.
太酷了。
It's so cool.
我另外特别喜欢的一点是，虽然很多人会走到纳瓦霍拱门那一带，但说实话，人数还是不多。
The other thing that I love about it is you will find a fair amount of people on it really up to, like, the 00 Arch area, but, I mean, still not that many.
对。
Mhmm.
大多数人只走到景观拱门就折返了，那地方确实非常壮观。
Most people just start the trail and hike to Landscape Arch, which is very, know, very impressive
对。
Mhmm.
光是景观拱门就值得一看。
By itself.
很多人走到那儿就往回走了。
You know, a lot of people hike there and then turn back.
但如果你继续往前走，会看到一个标识，大概是从景观拱门开始进入原始步道，风险自负那种。
But if you keep going and I think the sign is, like, from landscape arches, like primitive trail, like enter your own risk type of thing.
你懂的。
You know?
所以我觉得这吓退了不少人。
And so I think it scares a lot of people.
一旦你深入里面，就会发现拱门国家公园其实很难找到安静的地方。
Once you get back in there, it's just Arches is a national park that's kind of hard to find solitude.
对。
Mhmm.
人真的非常多。
It's very busy.
到处都是游客。
There's a lot of people.
很多拱门就在路边附近。
There's a lot of arches right near the road.
所以你其实没怎么徒步，对吧。
And so, you know, you're not hiking, hiking a lot Mhmm.
在那个公园里。
In that park.
所以我特别喜欢那里，因为每次去拱门国家公园，我都觉得需要这么个地方逃离一下。
And so I really like it because for me, when I go to Arches, I feel like I need that escape.
对。
Mhmm.
魔鬼花园步道特别适合。
And the Devil's Garden Trail is perfect for it.
没错。
Yeah.
火炉峡谷也是。
So is the Fiery Furnace.
但我选了魔鬼花园，因为那里能看到好多拱门。
But I went with Devil's Garden because you see so many arches.
确实。
Right.
而且去魔鬼花园也不用像火炉峡谷那样申请许可。
And you don't have to have a a permit to go into Devil's Garden either like you do for the Fiery Furnace.
所以很容易到达。
So it's easily accessible.
我们本来只是匆匆看了一眼，但我特别喜欢景观拱门。
But we kinda glanced over it for a second, but I love Landscape Arch.
它横跨得像一个足球场那么长。
It's like a football field across.
真的特别大。
It's huge.
是个巨大的拱门。
It's a massive arch.
没错，确实如此。
I mean, yeah.
你还能在哪儿的徒步路上看到这么多拱门呢？
Like, where else can you see that many arches in one hike?
对。
Yes.
哪儿都没有。
Nowhere.
哪儿都没有。
Nowhere.
没错。
Exactly.
所以这就是我的第八名。
So that's my number eight.
太棒了。
Awesome.
好的。
Alright.
接下来是第七名。
And now number seven.
顺便说一下，如果你没注意到，我们已经不计分了。
And by the way, if you haven't noticed, we've stopped scoring this.
所以
So
根本没法打分。
It's impossible to score.
没错。
Yes.
我们需要你的帮助。
We need your help.
我们想听听你更倾向于选哪一个。
We want your feedback on which one you would choose.
对。
Yes.
当然。
Definitely.
平局了，因为我不会让步，他也不会让步。
Tiebreaker because I'm not coming off my spot and he's not coming off his.
所以
So
你搞这些徒步活动，其实大家都能受益。
Everybody wins when you do all these hikes anyways.
没错。
It's true.
不过，我们确实得在Instagram上搞个投票什么的。
But, yes, we'll we'll have to put up, like, a poll on Instagram or something like that.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
咱们走着瞧吧。
We'll see.
问问观众，看看他们怎么想。
Pull the audience and see what you guys think.
好的。
Alright.
第七个。
Number seven.
凯特，我对这个特别期待。
Kate, I'm really excited about this one.
我的第七名是黄石国家公园的间歇泉山。
My number seven is Geyser Hill in Yellowstone National Park.
间歇泉山全程大约一点三英里，来回都是木板步道。
And so Geyser Hill is like 1.3 miles up and down on some boardwalks.
其实海拔升得并不多。
You don't really gain that much elevation.
但我觉得全国再找不到别的徒步路线像这样了。
But I feel like there's no other hike in the country like it.
你随便走走，就能看到间歇泉、水、沸腾的水、酸性水、碱性水、从地里涌出来的冷水，喷涌、喷洒，到处都是。
And you just wander around and you see geysers, you see water, boiling water, acidic water, basic water, cold water flowing out of the earth, you know, spurting and, you know, spraying.
太酷了。
Is so cool.
全国还有哪条步道能像这样充满地质奇观？
This is what other hike is there in the country that's this alive with geologic awesomeness?
没错。
Agreed.
不过，我真不太愿意把这称作一次徒步。
However, I have a really hard time calling that hike a hike.
这其实就是围着几个间歇泉和一些特别棒的景致走的木板路。
It's a boardwalk around some geysers and some really cool stuff.
但你真的会穿上登山靴，带上水和急救包之类的吗？
But like, do I strap on my hiking boots and bring my water and my first aid kit and stuff?
不会。
No.
你确实不会。
You don't.
但如果你带着孩子在木板路上逛，经常会累得满头大汗，还特别烦躁，因为孩子总想停下来，不肯走，非要看这个看那个。
But if you're pulling kids around the boardwalks, sometimes you get pretty sweaty and frustrated because you're pulling kids around from one thing to the other because they're like, no, I wanna stay and look at this.
真的太棒了。
It's so cool.
你只好说：行吧，咱们去下一个地方。
And you're like, okay, let's move on to the next one.
是的。
Yeah.
但带孩子逛超市也是一样啊。
But that happens at, like, Target too.
只要带着孩子，哪儿都一样，孩子哪儿都想停。
That's fucking when you're pulling kids, you're pulling kids.
明白了。
Okay.
超市可算不上世界奇观。
Target's not a a wonder of the world.
当然不是。
Of course not.
我只是说，带着孩子逛可不算徒步旅行。
But I'm just saying, pulling kids doesn't make it a hike.
老忠实喷泉区太棒了。
Geyser Hill is so cool.
没错。
Yes.
真的太棒了。
So cool.
是我最喜欢的地方之一。
One of my favorite spots
对。
Mhmm.
在黄石公园里。
In Yellowstone.
是的。
Yes.
还有老忠实喷泉区周边。
And the area around Geyser Hill.
就是说，你要是再往远处走走的话。
Like, you know, when you hike further out too.
因为老忠实喷泉区其实不大。
Because Geyser Hill's pretty small.
那片地方还有很多别的可看的，对。
And then there's all the other stuff you can see too Mhmm.
就在那一带。
In that area.
所以我同意你的看法。
So I agree with you.
我特别喜欢那片区域。
I love that area.
这能算徒步吗？
Would I call it a hike?
不算。
No.
我很久以来都是这么想的。
So I for a long time.
我自然而然就赢了第七次。
I automatically win number seven.
怎么可能。
No way.
你可不是自动赢的。
You don't automatically win.
这太棒了。
It's so cool.
我确实是。
I do.
尤其是因为我的七号路线特别棒。
Especially because my number seven is really good.
我们看看具体会怎样。
We'll see what what
至于我的七号路线，我选了优胜美地的雾气小径。
is For my number seven, I chose the Mist Trail in Yosemite.
在优胜美地。
In Yosemite.
那确实是个不错的选择。
That is a good one.
顺便说一下，那是一条步道。
And that's a rail trail, by the way.
那路可够你受的。
It will kick your butt.
没错。
Yes.
所以关于雾径，有意思的是，你可以根据自己的情况随意调整路程长短。
So the Mist Trail what's cool about the Mist Trail is you really can make it as short or as long as you want.
对。
Mhmm.
路程大概从两英里左右，到六七英里不等。
And so, you know, it's anywhere from around two ish miles to, like, six to seven miles.
我最推荐的雾径路线是这样的——如果你还没去过优胜美地，首先得说，这条步道集中了优胜美地所有精华。
My favorite route of the Mist Trail so if you've never been to Yosemite is first of all, the Mist Trail has everything good from Yosemite.
它有巨大的花岗岩峭壁。
It has the huge granite cliffs.
它有壮观的大瀑布。
It has massive waterfalls.
你还会穿过一片森林。
You're going through a forest.
这一条步道，就把优胜美地最震撼的景色全都包揽了。
Like, you just get all of Yosemite's grandeur in this one hike.
太震撼了。
It's amazing.
你感觉像是进入了另一个世界。
You feel like you're in this outer world.
我说不上来。
It's I don't know.
那些瀑布真的特别大。
The waterfalls are just so big.
简直不可思议。
It's incredible.
很难用语言形容。
It's hard to explain.
你徒步的时候一直在往上走。
Well, and so you're hiking and you're going up.
中途有个小桥，到了那里就能看到范纳尔瀑布，但我建议别在那里停下。
There's a footbridge you can stop at, like, once you can see Vernal Fall, but I wouldn't stop there.
我会继续往上走。
I'd keep going.
如果你继续往上，真的能沿着维纳尔瀑布的岩壁爬上去，特别酷。
If you keep going, you can actually hike up some rock steps up the side of Vernal Like, it's so cool.
你简直就是沿着瀑布侧面在徒步。
You're literally hiking up the side of the waterfall.
如果你赶对了时间，那水真的会狠狠砸下来。
Like, that water is just pounding down if you time it.
对吧？
Right?
你得赶在初夏去，那时候水量才够猛。
You've gotta go, like, early summer to get the poundage Yes.
从这条步道上看。
From this trail.
水哗哗地砸下来，水雾也猛得不得了。
But, like, the water's just pounding down, and the mist is just coming up like crazy.
水流就像漩涡一样奔腾而下。
It's like swirling like a torrent.
真是太壮观了。
It's so
你整个人都会被淋透。
And so you're just drenched.
你全身湿透，却还在沿着瀑布侧面往上爬，最后还能站到瀑布顶端。
You're completely drenched, and you're hiking up the side of this waterfall, and then you can stand up at the top of it.
很多人到那儿就往回走了。
A lot of people turn around there.
对。
Mhmm.
真的特别震撼。
And it's really impressive.
你知道吧。
You know?
所以如果你不想走太多路，这条路还是挺难的。
So if you're not wanting to hike a ton, it's still pretty hard.
我的意思是，光是走到维纳尔瀑布脚下，海拔就升了不少，之后还得一路爬台阶到顶。
I mean, that one gains a good amount of elevation just to get up to the bottom of Vernal Fall, and then you're doing steps all the way to the top.
但我觉得最打动我的是，过了维纳尔瀑布之后，还能继续往上走，直接徒步到内华达瀑布的顶端。
But I think what really seals it for me is once you get past Vernal Fall, you can keep going and you go up and you can actually hike to the top of Nevada Fall
对。
Mhmm.
那可是更大的瀑布。
Which is even bigger.
是啊。
Yeah.
虽然不像在维纳尔瀑布旁边那样被水雾打湿，但那瀑布真的特别壮观。
Not as misty because you're not, like, going right up next to it, but it's this massive waterfall.
到了上面，眼前豁然开朗，四周都是巨大的花岗岩峭壁，瀑布就在眼前。
And then you're up there and you're like, just the views open out to all these massive granite cliffs and you've got the waterfall.
如果你能走到那儿，还得绕一圈。
And then if you make it that far, you have to go around.
你站在瀑布顶上，接着沿着约翰·缪尔步道继续走，就能看到那个特别壮观的景色，对。
You stand at the top of it, and then you keep going around on the John Muir Trail so that you get, like, that epic view Mhmm.
瀑布后面是那座巨大的花岗岩巨石，特别震撼。
Of the waterfall with the, you know, the big monolith behind it.
我真的很爱这条步道，尽管它通常人很多。
And it's just like, I have so much love for that trail even though it's usually pretty busy.
我一般不太喜欢走那种人山人海的路线，但这条真的太棒了。
And I tend to not like to hike those really busy trails, but it is so fantastic.
我以前根本不知道世界上有这么多花岗岩，直到走了这条步道。
You know, I don't think I knew there was that much granite in the whole world until I went on that trail.
一座圆顶接着一座圆顶，巨大的悬崖连着巨大的瀑布。
And there's just dome after dome and giant cliff after, you know, giant waterfall.
这条步道有太多让人惊叹的地方了。
There's just so many cool things about that trail.
我们可没轻描淡写。
We are not underselling it.
这地方太震撼了。
It is incredible.
我特别喜欢这条步道。
I love that trail.
不过你把它排得太靠后了。
You put it way too low on your list, though.
我不确定。
I don't know.
我也很喜欢这条步道，但我觉得它没进我的前五名，主要是因为去起点实在有点麻烦。
I I love that trail, but I think the reason that it's not, like, in my top five or whatever is really just because, a, it's kind of a pain to, like, get to the trailhead.
对。
Mhmm.
对。
Mhmm.
你得坐公园的接驳车，我们好多次等车都等了老半天。
You've gotta take the park shuttle, and we've had plenty of times where it takes forever to catch a shuttle.
等你终于上路了，人多得不得了。
And by the time you get on the trail, there's a million people.
所以实际体验上，想像平时那样在热门步道上早点出发，根本做不到，光是交通安排就够头疼的。
And so that actually experience, like, it's hard to kind of start the trail as early as I typically like to be on a busy trail like that and just the the logistics of it.
对啊。
Mhmm.
这些因素让我觉得有点减分。
I feel like kind of detract a little bit for me.
但步道本身，尤其是雾气缭绕那段，再接着去内华达瀑布，真的没得说。
But the trail itself, especially the misty part and then going on to Nevada fall.
是的。
Yeah.
如果单论步道本身，我肯定会把它排得更靠前。
I mean, if I was just going off the trail alone, it would have been higher on my list.
是的
Yeah.
哦，太棒了
Oh, it's so good.
是的
Yeah.
第七名确实很不错
That is a really good number seven.
第七名
Number seven.
第七名
Number seven.
是的
Yeah.
哦，我特别喜欢
Oh, I love it.
好的。
Okay.
我们继续吧。
Let's keep going on.
第六号。
Number six.
我选了南凯巴布小径。
I put the South Kaibab Trail.
对了。
Bingo.
你选的也是这个？
You did the same one?
是的。
Yes.
我们就达成一致了。
Just we agree.
我们结婚十年了，现在前面有什么？
What's in front We've of been married ten years.
这是我们做得最好的一次。
This is the best we've ever done.
好的。
Okay.
你为什么把它排在第六？
Why'd you put it as number six?
行吧。
Alright.
南凯巴布小径，如果你不知道它在哪，它就在大峡谷南缘，是通往科罗拉多河最快的一条路。
Number so the South Kaibab Trail, if you don't know where it's at, it's in the Grand Canyon on the South Rim, and it takes you it's the fastest route all the way down to the Colorado River.
这条小径最棒的地方在于，你几乎是在山脊上直下峡谷，沿途的景色不断变化。
And so what is so cool about this trail is you're basically on this ridge diving straight down to the canyon, and your views change constantly.
我觉得大峡谷有些步道，景色其实变化没那么频繁。
I feel like sometimes there are certain trails in the Grand Canyon where the view doesn't change that often.
我经常提到这个，尤其是如果你已经规划好了大峡谷的行程。
Oh, I talk about this a lot, especially if you've gotten the Grand Canyon itinerary.
我个人更推荐南凯巴布步道，而不是布莱特天使步道。
From me, I am heavily biased towards the South Kaibab over the Bright Angel.
对。
Mhmm.
这部分其实不太公平。
And part of that's not fair.
因为通常人们都是从布莱特天使步道往上走的。
Part of it is because the bright angel is the one you usually come up on.
对。
Mhmm.
所以你本来就有点烦躁，状态也不好。
And so you're already kind of grumpy and miserable.
这时候你只想赶紧离开峡谷。
So you're just trying to get out of the canyon.
但话说回来，第二点是，Bright Angel 路线的弯道太多了。
But, I mean, secondly is the bright angel is a lot of switchbacks.
一个弯接着一个弯，没完没了地往上爬出峡谷。
It's just switchback after switchback after switchback going up and out of the canyon.
对我来说，South Kaibab 这条路不一样，你一路往下走，风景一直在变，弯道少得多，就是一直往下、往下、往下，但确实如此。
And so for me, South Kaibab, you know, where your view is changing, you're not switching back as much as you're going down, down, down, down, down, but it does.
景色一直在换。
It changes constantly.
你能看到大峡谷层层叠叠的岩层，各种角度都看得清。
And you get so many different views of the layers of the Grand Canyon.
还能看到科罗拉多河，时隐时现，你沿着山脊徒步时，四周全是360度的全景。
You get different views of the river, you know, as it kinda comes and peaks in and out as you're hiking and you're going up and over these ridge lines and, you know, like, it's just 360 degree views.
你懂的。
You know?
你不会像在 Bright Angel 那样，紧贴着峡谷壁，一圈一圈地绕。
You're not, like, backed up against the canyon wall doing switchbacks.
对。
Mhmm.
你真的是在往大峡谷深处徒步前进。
You're, like, actually, like, hiking out into the Grand Canyon.
是的。
Yeah.
就在大峡谷的正中央。
Like, the middle of the Grand Canyon.
就像她说的，四周都是360度的全景。
Like she said, 360 degree views all around you.
你能看到一些巨大的东西，我不太知道该怎么叫它们。
And so you can see these giant I don't know what you call them.
有些看起来简直像神殿一样。
Like, there's these temples almost is what some of them look like.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Mhmm.
大峡谷里那些巨大的城堡状和神庙状的地貌景观。
These giant castle formations and temple formations of of the land masses in the Grand Canyon.
你能把它们全都看个遍。
You get to see them all.
你不会被局限在某个固定的地方。
You're not pigeonholed into any specific spot.
所以你能看到所有景色。
And so you can see everything.
太有意思了。
It's so fun.
你一路飞快地赶到大峡谷，一到河谷底，简直惊呆了。
You move so fast to the Grand Canyon, and you get down to the river, you're like, holy smokes.
我终于到了科罗拉多河，真的到了。
I made it to the Colorado River, which you can.
其实从大峡谷的边缘是很难看清楚的。
It's just hard to see actually from the rim of the Grand Canyon.
关键是你就身在其中，能摸到它，把脚和脸都贴上去。
And it's the fact that you're there, you're touching it, you're putting your feet and your face in it.
我说不好。
I don't know.
这真的太棒了，因为这可是个了不起的成就。
It's just so cool because it's a serious accomplishment.
顺便说一下，往下走那么深，差不多有1500米。
And by the way, going down that far is almost 5,000 feet.
对。
Yes.
等你到了那儿，不光想把手脚都伸进水里，还想泡上好几个星期的膝盖，因为那水对膝盖冲击挺大的——至少我就是这么觉得。
So by the time you get there, not only do you wanna put your hands and your feet, but you want to soak your knees for weeks in that water because it's pretty rough on your knees, or at least it was for me.
是的。
Yeah.
膝盖确实受不了。
It's rough on the knees for sure.
我们致力于让大家放下屏幕，走进国家公园，还精心设计了完整的行程，帮你轻松实现。
We are on a crusade to get people off their screens and into the national parks, and we have fully planned out itineraries to help you do just that.
不过得说一句，Dirt in My Shoes 的行程并不适合所有人。
But I will say, a Dirt in My Shoes itinerary isn't for everybody.
没错。
Yeah.
如果你只想在营地或酒店里待着，中午骑骑车、游游泳，那我们的每小时详细计划就不适合你。
If you wanna hang out at the campground or the hotel in the middle of the day to ride bikes or relax in the pool, our hour by hour itineraries are not for you.
我们不会让你隔着车窗看公园。
We don't show you how to see the parks through your windshield.
我们不搞走马观花。
We don't do drive bys.
我们不会只给你几个活动就完事了。
We don't give you a couple of activities and then call it good.
我们帮你穿上靴子，踏上实地，开启精彩的冒险。
We help you put your boots on the ground and have amazing adventures.
我们确保你避开人群，看到最热门的景点，同时也会带你深入国家公园，探索大多数人根本不知道的秘密角落。
We make sure you see the most popular spots without all the crowds, but we also take you deep into the national parks to see things most people don't even know about.
当你全身心投入这些冒险时，根本没人会想盯着手机屏幕看。
And you'll be so distracted by your adventures that no one will even want to be looking at their screens.
你离开公园时肯定会有点累、有点酸痛，但同时也会带走一生难忘的回忆。
You'll leave the park feeling a bit tired and sore, for sure, but you'll also leave with memories that will last a lifetime.
你会亲身体会到，真正沉浸在一个国家公园里的感觉有多奇妙，而这份体验，真的无价。
You'll know firsthand how magical it feels to truly immerse yourself in a national park, And that, my friend, is priceless.
如果你想要和最在乎的人一起拥有这样的体验，那就让我们来告诉你怎么做。
If this is the experience you want to have with the people you love most, let us show you how.
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是的。
Yeah.
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