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你喜欢吃沙子吗？
Do you like eating sand?
那滑石粉或二氧化钛呢？
What about talc or titanium dioxide?
事实上，市面上99%的维生素都含有不必要甚至可能有毒的添加剂。
The fact is 99% of all vitamins on the market contain unnecessary and potentially toxic additives.
所以我们推出了纯维生素俱乐部。
That's why we've created Pure Vitamin Club.
我们的每日复合胶囊精心配比了13种必需维生素和11种关键矿物质，不添加任何其他成分。
Our daily multi cap is a carefully balanced formulation of the 13 essential vitamins plus 11 key minerals with no added ingredients of any kind.
只有你身体所需、能发挥最佳功能的营养素。
Just the nutrients your body needs to function at its best.
但如果不坚持服用，再好的维生素也没用。
But no vitamin will do you any good unless you actually take it.
所以我们帮你把这件事变得简单了。
So we've made that easy for you.
Pure Vitamin Club 会把维生素送到你家门口，每天只需几美分，访问 purevitaminclub.com 就行。
Pure Vitamin Club will deliver your vitamins to your door for pennies a day at purevitaminclub.com.
Purevitaminclub.com。
Purevitaminclub.com.
他是好莱坞健康健身领域的首选人物。
He's Hollywood's go to guy for health and fitness.
现在有请美国最愤怒的教练 Vinnie Tortorich 和搭档 Anna Pacino。
And now America's Angriest Trainer, Vinnie Tortorich with cohost Anna Pacino.
为什么我是美国最愤怒的教练？
Why am I America's Angriest Trainer?
你的美好愿望被人偷走了，我来帮你把它们找回来。
Your good intentions have been stolen, and I'm here to help you get them back.
我是 Vinnie Tortorich，各位，现在是周六节目。
I am Vinnie Tortorich and folks, it's the Saturday show.
这通常是一个听众提问环节。
This was usually this is a listener question.
今天会有点不一样，因为这次更像是一位听众，不是来问我问题，而是来告诉我某件事的结果。
This is going to be a little different today because this is going to kind of be a listener, not questioning me, but telling me how something turned out.
这家伙刚跑了一百多万英里，从大峡谷的一边到另一边。
This guy just ran 1,000,000 plus miles from rim to rim of the Grand Canyon.
我想把他介绍到节目里，其实我本来想说这是第一次，但他之前已经上过节目了。
I want to introduce to the show, actually, I was gonna say for the first time, but he's actually been on the show before.
你可能记得也可能不记得，但当时我们搞了个聚会，就是那个见面会，卡洛斯·多内斯也在场，他还对着麦克风说了几分钟话。
You may or may not remember, but when we had the the, you know, the get together, you know, the meetup, Carlos Dones was there, and he was actually on mic for a few minutes.
他问了几个非常深刻的问题。
He asked a couple of really poignant questions.
我想欢迎我的朋友再次来到节目，卡洛斯·多内斯。
I wanna welcome my friend back to the show, Carlos Dones.
你好啊，维尼？
What's up, Vinnie?
你怎么样，兄弟？
How you doing, buddy?
邀请我来上节目。
Having me on.
我挺好的，兄弟。
I pre I'm good, brother.
谢谢。
Thanks.
很感谢你邀请我。
I appreciate you having me on.
卡洛斯，你看，是这样的。
Now, Carlos, you know, look.
你这个人，我一开始完全不认识你。
You were a guy I I didn't know you from Adam.
对吧？
Right?
突然有一天，我们从一通电话开始聊了起来。
All of a sudden, one day, you we started with a phone call.
对吧？
Right?
不是。
No.
不是。
No.
其实是从那辆自行车开始的。
We actually started with the Oh, the bike.
对。
Yeah.
自行车调整。
The bike fit.
自行车调整。
The bike fit.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
我记得。
I remember.
对。
Yeah.
我当时正好在接待客户的间隙，你说，对，可以做个自行车调整。
We I was like in between clients and you were like, yeah, could do a bike fit.
我当时就想，哦，天哪。
Was like, oh, fuck.
我该去哪儿做这个呢？
Where am I gonna go to do this?
那时候温迪还在给我打工，我突然想到，他可以直接从高速下来。
And at the time, Wendy was working for me and I I was like, wait a minute, he could get right off the freeway.
我正好要从那条街过来。
I'm gonna be coming up that street.
我直接跟这人在停车场碰面就行。
I could just meet this guy in the parking lot.
所以我们在停车场见了面，我给他做了个自行车调试。
So we met in a parking lot, and I did a bike fit.
没错。
That's right.
对。
Right.
就在停车场里。
Right in the parking lot.
对，就是这样。
Yeah, exactly.
是的。
Yeah.
那就是我。
That's me.
我哪儿都去，随时随地都行。
I'll go anywhere, anywhere, anytime.
那就是我。
That's me.
对。
Yeah.
我特别喜欢。
I I loved it.
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得，我当时是边听有声书边看那本书的。
I think, what happened was I I read the book while I listened to it on Audible.
《健身机密》。
Fitness Confidential.
对。
Yeah.
《健身机密》，这本书很棒。
Fitness Confidential, which is a great book.
我强烈推荐。
I highly recommend it.
书里有个地方，我忘了你具体在哪讲的，说你确实做过自行车调试。
And in the book somewhere, I forgot where you talked about that you actually did bike fit.
你说别去花那么多钱。
You said don't go don't go spend such amount of money.
我当时正打算去做个自行车调试，因为我要参加波多黎各的半程铁人三项。
And I was about to do a bike fit because I was doing the Puerto Rico half Ironman.
对。
Yeah.
然后不知怎么的，我找到了你的邮箱还是电话号码，就联系了你，你说没问题。
And then somewhere, somehow, I found I don't if it was your email, your phone number somehow, and I and I contacted you, and you said, sure.
我们来看看吧。
Let's let's look up.
然后没过几天，我就出现在你面前，在停车场那儿。
And then within a couple days, I was in front of you in the parking lot.
我的自行车正架在架子上做调试。
My bike was on a rack getting fitted.
对。
Yeah.
我当时住在伍登希尔那边。
I'm living in Wooden Hill somewhere.
其实呢，我一般会推荐别人去找帮我做调试的那个人。
And, you know, usually, I recommend people to the guy who fits me.
我认识另一个叫卡洛斯的师傅。
I I got another guy named Carlos.
我记得我还说过，哦，你去找卡洛斯吧。
And I think I even said, oh, go see Carlos.
然后我们就聊了起来。
And then we started talking.
我当时就说，对。
I was like, yeah.
你知道吗？
You know what?
我马上就到那儿了。
I'm gonna be right there.
不如干脆就顺路下高速，直接找他搞定算了。
Might as well just, you know, pop this guy off the freeway and do it right.
就这样，一段友谊开始了。
And, and that was the beginning of a friendship.
是的。
Yeah.
确实如此。
For sure.
当然。
For sure.
而且，你知道吗，你为我做那件事的时候，我就觉得这家伙刚写了一本书，还是畅销书。
And, you know, when you did that for me, you know, I I thought this guy just wrote a book, bestseller.
这家伙太厉害了。
This guy is amazing.
你明白吗？
You know?
我已经知道那个播客了。
I know about the podcast already.
而且，你知道吗，我觉得这家伙特别谦虚，人特别好。
And, you know, I thought this guy's so humble, such a nice man.
我就说，你知道吗，就是这个人了。
I said, you know, this is this is the guy right here.
我现在得多听听这个人的东西。
I need to I need to be listening to this guy a lot more now.
哦，谢谢。
Oh, thanks.
我们就是这样开始的。
And that's how we started.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
你知道，因为我在给你做自行车调试的时候你出去了，你的自行车其实没什么大问题。
You know, because you got out while I was doing your bike fit because it, you know, took your bike wasn't that far off.
我花了三四十分钟。
It took me thirty, forty five minutes.
然后你就开始一句一句地引用起来了。
And you started quoting line in verse.
嘿，老兄。
Hey, man.
当时安娜说了这个，然后你接了那句话，挺有意思的。
It was funny when when Anna said this, and then you said that.
我当时就想，哇。
And I was like, wow.
这家伙真是个铁粉。
This guy's a real fan.
对。
Yeah.
确实。
For sure.
然后电话就开始了。
So then the phone call started.
对吧？
Right?
然后电话就开始了，确实是这样。
Then the phone calls started, absolutely.
后来你告诉我那些电话的事，我需要一些营养和运动方面的建议，然后我就开始打那些电话了。
Then I I had you had told me that you told me about the phone calls, and I I needed some nutritional information, some exercise, and then I just started doing the phone calls.
所以，我今天能在这里，我们要聊这件事，就是因为那些电话。
And and that's why I well, the reason the reason I'm here today, and we're gonna talk about it, is because of those phone calls.
实际上，是你帮我走到了今天这一步。
Because you you helped me get to where I am right now, actually.
所以，电话咨询非常推荐。
So the phone call's highly recommended.
拿起电话吧。
Pick up the phone.
打给Vinnie。
Call Vinnie.
我跟你们说，这是你能做的最好的事情。
I'm telling you guys, it's the best thing that you can do.
对，确实是这样。
Yeah, it really was.
真的就是那种感觉。
It really was that kind of thing.
其实，信不信由你，我现在一边跟你说话，一边在回信。
As a matter of fact, you know, believe it or not, while I'm talking to you right now, I'm writing back.
你没碰巧听到我和亚当·卡罗拉还有德鲁医生的那期节目吧？
You didn't happen to hear my thing with Adam Carolla and Doctor.
你没听到吧？
Drew, did you?
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
那期节目很棒。
Was great.
其实我听了，就在我回来的路上，也就是我们马上要聊的那场比赛结束后，我有大概八个小时的空闲时间，就听了那个节目。
I listened as a matter of fact, on my way back from my from my race that we're gonna talk about right now, I had about eight hours to burn, and I listened to it.
那真是一场非常非常精彩的访谈。
It was a phenomenal, phenomenal interview.
太棒了。
It was great.
我非常喜欢。
I loved it.
作为
As a
表现得确实很好。
did really well.
就在我跟你说话的这会儿，我正在和亚当·卡罗拉节目的马特·方德利尔来回沟通。
As as I'm talking to you right now, I'm riding back and forth with, Matt Fondelier from the Adam Corolla show.
他们又邀请我去录两期播客。
They're bringing me back in for two more podcasts.
那太棒了。
That's awesome.
是的。
Yeah.
看来那边反响很好，还被邀请再去两次。
Apparently, it went really well over there and being asked back twice more.
一次是德鲁医生，一次是亚当·卡罗拉，想跟我单独聊聊，这
One by doctor Drew and one by Adam Carolla to do kind of a one on one with him, which is
那太好了。
That's great.
那太好了。
That's great.
那可是个大播客啊。
That's a big that's a big podcast.
嗯，是最大的。
It well, it's the biggest.
没有比这更大的了。
Doesn't get any bigger.
没错。
There you go.
对。
Yeah.
没有比这更大的了。
It doesn't get any bigger than that.
德鲁医生。
Doctor Drew.
对吧？
Right?
亚当？
Adam?
是的。
Yeah.
太好了。
Great.
对。
Yeah.
顺便说一句，他们都是特别好的人。
Super nice guys, by the way.
我现在是亚当的超级粉丝了，你知道吗。
I'm a big fan now of Adam, you know.
而且，你知道，你说的就是那种谦虚的人。
And, you know, you're talking about humble guys.
你知道吗，你刚才夸我，说我很谦虚，是个写了书的人什么的。
You know, you you were complimenting me saying, oh, you're humble and you're a guy who wrote the book and all thing.
我前几天第一次做节目的时候，你有没有从头听到尾？
When I did the first show the other day, did you listen to that show all the way to the end?
从头听到尾，一直听到最后。
To the end, all the way to the end.
好的。
Okay.
有一次，德鲁医生
At one point, Doctor.
中途退场了。
Drew had a heart out.
我们当时知道，节目一开始他就得在节目结束前离开。
And we knew that when the show started that he had to walk out of there before the show was over with.
或者说，我们当时以为节目到那儿就该结束了。
Or, you know, we just assumed that the show would be over with at that point.
对。
Yeah.
但你就像那是你自己的节目一样，直接接过去了。
But you just stepped right in like it was your show.
是的。
Yeah.
所以我和亚当，嗯，我们跟德鲁医生告别了一个小时，然后又继续了大概，我也说不准，十五到二十分钟。
So Adam and I just you know, we we we told doctor Drew goodbye after an hour and we did like another, I don't know what, fifteen, twenty minutes.
我也不确定。
I don't know.
对。
Yeah.
大概二十分钟左右。
It's about twenty minutes.
是的。
Yeah.
所以我们就继续把节目做下去了。
So we just carried on with the show.
我平时做电视节目或者上其他节目，尤其是跟名人一起的时候，总有一种奇怪的礼节：如果节目结束的时候你跟名人在一起，你会说，好了，兄弟，谢谢你来。
My normal thing is whenever I go do television or do other shows, especially with celebrities, there's this weird kind of decorum that when the show is over with, if you're ending the show with the celebrity, you you know, they'll say, alright, man, thanks for coming in.
他们会跟你握手告别。
They'll shake your hand and say goodbye.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
所以当时就我和德鲁在。
So it was just me and drew.
不好意思，是我和亚当在录音室里。
I'm sorry, me and Adam in the studio.
然后他说，嘿，这真是太棒了。
And, he goes, man, this he goes, man, this was great.
谢谢你过来。
Thanks for coming in.
我就说，哦，谢谢。
I was, oh, thanks.
这是我的荣幸。
It was my pleasure.
就是那种感觉吧。
You know, that, that kind of thing.
然后事情就一件接一件地发生了。
And one thing led to another.
我走出来的时候，那个帮我进去的年轻人，克里斯·拉克萨马纳。
And, I'm I'm walking out and this kid, Chris Laxamana, who got me in.
其实呢，我打算和克里斯一起做一场演出。
And as a matter of fact, I'm gonna do a show with Chris.
好的。
Okay.
克里斯在走廊里叫住我，说，哥们，你刚才真的特别棒。
Chris catches me in the hall and he goes, man, that was really, really good.
我当时就说，哎呀，别这么说。
And I went, oh, geez.
你不用这么客气的。
You don't have to say that.
然后他说，不，你不明白。
And he goes, no, you don't understand.
通常节目开始十五分钟左右，他们就会接电话。
They usually go to phone calls about fifteen minutes into the show.
但这次他们根本没接电话。
They never went to phone calls.
他们抢着要跟你聊天。
They were fighting over each other to have conversation with you.
他说，这节目真不错。
And he goes, was really good show.
我说，是啊，
And I said, well, yeah,
确实不错。
it was good.
对。
Yeah.
非常感谢你。
Thank you very much.
然后亚当走出录音室，对我说：‘嘿，老兄，你现在忙什么呢？’
And then Adam walked out of the studio and he goes, Hey man, what are you up to right now?
我说：‘你是指人生中吗？’
And I said, You mean in life?
他说：‘不是指现在这个时间点。’
He goes, not like right now.
‘你在干什么？’
What are you doing?
我说：‘嗯，我正在跟你说话啊。’
I said, well, I'm talking to you.
他说：‘那你现在有空吧。’
He goes, you're free for a bit.
我说：‘对。’
I said, yeah.
然后那个人带我过去了。
And the guy took me over.
不知道你知不知道，他收藏赛车。
I don't know if you know this, but he collects race cars.
是的，我知道。
Yes, I know that.
对。
Yeah.
他带我去了他的仓库，那里简直就是一个展厅，里面全是保罗·纽曼的老款赛车。
And he took me over to his, his, warehouse where he's got literally a showroom full of, old Paul Newman race cars.
哇。
Wow.
他带我挨个看每辆车，告诉我这是什么车，对保罗·纽曼有什么意义，赢过哪些比赛，他是怎么弄到手的。
You took me around to each car, told me what it was, what it meant to Paul Newman, which races it won, how he acquired it.
我简直就像个进了糖果店的小孩，因为我特别喜欢这些东西。
I mean, I I was like a kid in a candy store because I love that kind of shit.
真不错。
Nice.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
然后他带我去了后面，给我看了那些机械装置，你知道，那家伙在重新制作零件和配件。
And then he took me in the back and showed me the mechanics and, you know, the guy's refabricating pieces and parts.
我们大概待了一个小时。
We hung out for like an hour.
我真是对他着迷了。
I couldn't get enough of this guy.
哇。
Wow.
你知道，很多时候，他让我有点想起我们，就是那种喜欢随便待着，非常谦虚、朴实的人。
You know, and you know, lot of times, you know, he kind of reminds me of how we a little bit where they like to just hang out and very humble, salt of the earth guy.
我对这个人真是赞不绝口。
I cannot say enough about this human being.
非常好。
Very nice.
对，确实很好。
Yeah, very.
那挺酷的。
That's cool.
而且他显然很喜欢Howie。
And he obviously, really liked Howie.
他提了好几次。
He mentioned that a few times.
是的。
Yeah.
所以，
So,
Howie开始聊起来，他们发现彼此很合得来。
Howie started going on, they realized that they got along really well.
现在他们成了朋友。
And now they're friends.
那太好了。
That's great.
是的。
Yeah.
这事情最后怎么成的，还挺有意思的。
It's it's funny how it kinda all works.
那真是太棒了。
That's that's awesome.
对了，那场演出也很精彩。
And the show was great, by the way.
你在节目上表现得非常好。
You did really well on the show.
哦，谢了，兄弟。
Oh, thanks, man.
你知道，因为你会担心这个。
You know, because you worry about that.
你也不知道那些事情会怎么发展。
You don't know how those things are gonna go.
对。
No.
对。
No.
你每件事都做得很好。
You're on point on everything.
我是说，他们回答了一些技术性的问题，尤其是德鲁医生。
I mean, they they answered some technical stuff, especially doctor Drew.
他回答得很到位。
He was on it.
而且你表现得也很好。
And you you were good.
没错，你确实很到位。
Well You're on point.
亚当也是这么说的。
That's what Adam said.
他说，每次你回答问题的时候，德鲁都在点头。
He goes, you know, every time you answered a question, Drew was nodding.
是的。
Yes.
对。
Yep.
这家伙对这些东西很在行。
This guy knows this shit.
没错。
Yeah.
这让我感觉很好，你知道，来自德鲁医生这样的评价？
And that made me feel good, you know, coming from doctor Drew that you know?
因为他本来可以坐在那里说，哦，不。
Because he could have sat there and said, oh, no.
吃肉会要了你的命，因为他是个医生。
Meat's gonna kill you because he's a doctor.
你明白吗？
You know?
你永远不知道他们会怎么想。
You you never know where they're gonna go with that.
对。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
他确实不错。
He was good.
他，我是说，他真的做到了。
He I mean, he did it.
他问了一些非常棒的问题，而且，我是说，他问得很到位。
He was he was he asked some really good questions, and, I mean, he was on point.
然后你立刻回应并回答了这些问题，我觉得这真的很棒。
And you came right back and answered them, and it was I mean, I thought it was great.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
结果都很好，但你做了一件我在科罗拉工作室做的任何事都比不上的事。
It it all turned out well, but you did something that trumps anything I did at Corolla Studios.
是的。
Yeah.
对，没错。
But yeah.
但你自己也做过一些疯狂的事情。
But you've done some some some crazy stuff yourself.
所以呢。
So
兄弟，听我说。
Dude, look.
当初你来找我的时候，你看。
When you came to me look.
当别人来找我，说，嘿，我想搞个三十六小时或者二十四小时的活动。
When people come to me and say, Hey, I want to do this, you know, thirty six hour event or twenty four hour event.
我想做这个，你知道，不吃糖，不吃谷物。
I want to do it, you know, no sugars, no grains.
我想搞高脂肪的。
I want to do it high fat.
那太简单了。
That's easy.
我是说，帕特拉在这方面做得非常出色。
I mean, Patera is tearing it up that way.
扎克·比特斯在这方面也做得很好。
Zac bitters is tearing it up that way.
但你来找我时，提的事情真的让我犯难了。
Well, you came to me with something that literally stumped me.
对，确实是这样。
And Yeah, did.
事实上，我们知道的唯一接近做过类似事情的人，是意大利的海军陆战队，就是那种，对。
As a matter of fact, the only people that we knew that came close to doing anything like this was some, Italian marines, you know, like the Yeah.
意大利版本的海军陆战队。
The Italy version of marines.
他们参加的是哪个比赛？
Which race did they do?
他们参加的是撒哈拉沙漠马拉松。
They did the Marathon des Sable.
对。
Yeah.
他们真的就是靠喝小瓶橄榄油来给自己补充能量。
And they did literally, they were drinking vials of olive oil to fuel themselves.
确实是这样。
They did.
那好，让我来解释一下。
So so what well, let let's let's let me explain.
我也不太确定。
So I don't know.
大概六个月前，我找到你，说，嘿，Vinnie。
About six months ago, I came to you, and I said, hey, Vinnie.
我想参加这个比赛。
I wanna do this race.
这个比赛叫“大峡谷到锡安”，全程170英里，穿越，你知道，大峡谷——嗯，就是穿过大峡谷。
It's called the Grand to Grand, a 170 miles across, you know, the Grand Canyon well, through the Grand Canyon.
我当时在想，我能不能不吃糖、不吃谷物来完成这个比赛？
And I I was wondering, is it possible that I could do this with no sugars, no grades?
然后你回答说，可以。
And you're like, yeah.
一开始你的反应就是，可以。
You know, the first initial was like, yeah.
我觉得我们能行。
I think we could do this.
但后来我们越想越深入，我记得你有好几次跟我说，卡洛斯，我不确定我们能不能做到。
And then as we started thinking more about it and getting more into it, I remember you told me a few times, Carlos, I don't know if we can do this.
我有点犯难，不知道怎么能不吃糖、不吃谷物，跑完这整整170英里。
I'm I'm kind of stumped as far as how we can get across, you know, the whole 170 miles with jet with no sugar and with no grain.
让我插一句，真正让我犯难的是——
The thing that stumped me let me let me interject there.
你说吧。
Go ahead.
因为当初我们第一次聊的时候，我还觉得没问题。
Because with the when you when we first talked about it, I was like, yeah.
他只要带上这个和那个，应该就能应付。
He just has to carry this out and the other thing, and he'll be fine.
但第二次通话时，我们才发现得全程自己背所有吃的。
But then in the second phone call, were like, we have to carry everything we're gonna eat the entire time.
没错。
That's right.
我就是卡在这儿了。
And that's where I got stopped.
我当时想，奶酪不行，天气热肉会坏，橄榄也存不住，连橄榄都不行。
I went, cheese, and it's gonna be hot and the meat is gonna spoil and you can't keep cheese And olives, you can't even keep olives.
你看，我们就被难住了。
You know, we were stopped.
对。
Right.
对。
Yeah.
正是这一点让这场比赛变得如此艰难，你知道，170英里？
And and that's what made it so that's what makes this race so difficult is, you know, a 170 miles?
我是说，是的。
I mean, yes.
距离确实很长，但要在七天内、分六个赛段完成，还得自己背所有食物和装备。
It's it's it's huge, but doing it over seven days, six stages, and then carrying all your food, carrying all your gear.
你知道，那里很热。
You know, it's hot out there.
那是一片沙漠。
It's it's it's a desert.
我们怎么保持食物新鲜呢？
How do we maintain this food fresh?
那是我们遇到的最大障碍。
That that was the biggest obstacle that we were encountering.
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对吧？
Right?
这就是我们遇到的问题。
That's that's the problem that we had.
所以我开始做的，就是，你告诉我，卡洛斯，去找找看，找那些可以打包、有包装、低糖、少谷物的东西。
So what I started to do was, you know, you tell me, Carlos, look for stuff, start to find things that you can that can be packed that's packaged that has, you know, low sugar, you know, minimal grains.
所以我就开始这么做了。
So that's what I started doing.
我开始研究，找一些东西，因为有一次，维尼，我记得我跟你说过。
I just started kinda researching and finding things that were because I I one point, Vinnie, I think I talked to you about it.
我们完全不吃糖、完全不吃谷物是不可能的。
There was no way that we can get away with no sugars completely and no grains completely.
你还
Do you
记得吗？
remember that?
我们后来放弃了这个想法，尤其是在给美国健康肉类公司打电话，他们给我们寄了那种狗粮之后。
We we gave up on that because after especially after we called US Wellness Meats and they sent us that dog food.
他们管那个叫肉干。
That they call pemmican.
我甚至还买了。
And I even I bought it.
我说，卡洛斯，我来买。
I said, Carlos, I'm gonna buy it.
我会给你寄一些。
I will send you some.
我的狗会需要的。
My my dog would need it.
我的狗平时连猫屎都吃，但它就是不吃这玩意儿。
And my dog my dog eats cat shit, but my dog would not eat this stuff.
对。
Yeah.
那东西太难吃了。
It was horrible.
我记得你邀请我去你家。
I remember you invited me over.
那天我去了，我们先去了星巴克。
I went to we went to Starbucks that day.
我说，卡洛斯，我带了南瓜。
Like, Carlos, I have the pumpkin.
然后我就过去了。
I went over there.
天哪，那玩意儿真的太难吃了。
Man, I mean, that stuff was horrible.
我实在吃不下去。
I I I couldn't do it.
我直接扔了。
I threw it away.
那玩意儿就是纯牛油混了点肉进去。
It was nothing but tallow with meat mixed into the tallow.
哦。
Oh.
哦，那真是太难吃了。
Oh, it was horrible.
我当时心里想，但我一直跟自己说，卡洛斯，你得坚持。
I mean, I was like, but I kept saying, Carlos, you got to.
我们也没别的选择了。
I mean, we have nothing else.
我们找了好久，那时候Epic能量棒还没流行起来。
I mean, we've been really searching, and Epic bars weren't really a thing yet.
你知道，我们一直在找那种东西。
You know, we were looking for those.
但就是找不到。
We couldn't find them.
你明白吗？
You know?
是的。
Yeah.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
一开始我觉得那太糟糕了。
I start it was horrible.
然后，当我开始做的时候，
And then when, you know, I started doing it.
我就把橄榄油倒进水里喝。
I started taking olive oil, and I dumped it in my water.
那还挺管用的。
That worked.
但问题又来了，我怎么能随身带七天的橄榄油呢？
But then again, how do I carry olive oil for seven days?
而且，你知道，我当时就觉得这根本不可能。
And, you know, I just I knew it was not gonna be possible.
所以我开始去找那些脱水冻干食品，专门挑含糖量最低的。
So what I started to do was I started going to those those dehydrated free dry foods, and I just started looking for the ones with the least amount of sugar.
我就是这么做的。
That's what I did.
我说，好吧。
I said, okay.
这行不通。
This is not gonna work.
我得找含糖量最少的。
Let me find the least amount of sugar.
至于谷物，你知道，真的很难控制。
The grains, you know, I I really it was kinda hard to control that.
所以我就说，谷物就算了。
So I said, about the grains.
我就打算专注于减少糖分，因为我觉得我之前跟你提过这个。
I'm just gonna focus on minimal sugar because I think I had told you this.
我在这方面问题很大。
I have a lot of problem.
如果我吃太多糖，尤其是在我运动量大的时候，我会病得很厉害。
If I start eating too much sugar, when I'm, you know, when I'm really moving the engine, I get sick really bad.
是的。
Yeah.
所以我就想，如果我能把糖分降到最低，因为我的身体已经开始适应脂肪供能了。
So I said, if I can minimize the sugar, because my body was already getting fat adapted.
对吧？
Right?
这都多亏了你。
Thanks to thanks to you.
当然，你一直在教我，给我示范该怎么做。
Of course, you know, you're you're you're showing what you're teaching me.
我正在做呢。
I'm I'm doing it.
所以我最不想看到的就是到那儿时到处都是胶水，对吧？
So the last thing I wanna do is show up there with glue everywhere, and it's gonna Right.
那不可能发生。
Not gonna happen.
所以最后，跟你说一下，比赛包里规定我们至少要带14,000卡路里。
So I ended up, just so you know, in the in the race packet, it was a minimum of 14,000 calories that we had to carry.
所以我的做法是，在那14,000卡路里中，我实际上带了16,000卡路里，而且我找到了含糖量最少的食物。
So what I did was I figured out in those 14,000, I ended up actually taking 16,000 calories, and I found the food with the most the least amount of sugar.
所以含糖量最高的食物是那种脱水食品。
So the the food that had the most amount of sugar was one of these dehydrated foods.
我记得它只有六克。
I think he had six.
总共六克糖。
Six grams of sugar total.
所以我想，好吧。
So I figured, okay.
那也不算太糟。
That's not too bad.
但我大部分食物只含两到三克糖。
But most of my food only had between two and three grams of sugar.
就只有这么多。
That's all they had.
好的。
Alright.
那好吧。
So alright.
咱们就说说这些，因为大家肯定会想，等等。
Let's name with those because people are gonna go, wait a minute.
这些神奇的食物是什么？
What are these magical foods?
说说你每天到底吃了什么吧。
Let's talk about what you actually ate day to day.
好的。
Okay.
所以我最后做的，你知道，还是因为你，你说，卡洛斯，用点UCAN吧。
So what I ended up doing, you know, again, because of you, you're like, you know, Carlos, you know, use some UCAN.
UCAN，我记得每包只有一克糖，110卡路里。
So UCAN, I believe it only has one gram of sugar per packet, a 110 calories.
对。
Right.
所以我大概拿了20包。
So I took about I took 20 of those.
UCAN还出了一款巧克力棒，我记得只有三到四克。
I took UCAN also came came out with a bar, a chocolate bar, which only has, I believe, either three or four grams.
糖的具体含量我不太确定。
I'm not quite sure of sugar.
它含有180卡路里。
It has a 180 calories.
所以我大概带了10条那种巧克力棒。
So I took about 10 of those.
我还带了坚果酱，杏仁酱、花生酱，还有腰果酱。
I took nut butter, almond butter, peanut butter, you know, cashew butter.
我带了小包装的椰子油，大概有30到40包。
I took coconut oil in packets, and that I had a I had a 30 or 40 of those things.
对。
Yeah.
然后我每天吃两顿预先脱水的餐食。
And then and then I had two pre dehydrated meals per day.
早餐和晚餐。
Breakfast, dinner.
早餐，说说那些餐食里都有什么吧。
Breakfast, about what those talk about what was in those meals.
那些要么是黑豆、米饭，要么是黑豆、蔬菜、米饭。
Those were either black beans, rice, black beans, vegetables, rice.
所有东西要么是黑豆、米饭，哦，还有蛋白、全蛋加蔬菜，鸡蛋很多。
Everything was either black beans, rice oh, egg whites, whole eggs with vegetables in them, a lot of eggs.
还有，哦，抱歉。
There was oh, and I'm sorry.
我还带了一些Epic能量棒。
I took some Epic bars as well.
对。
Yeah.
Epic能量棒，牛肉的，你知道，培根棒，火鸡棒。
Epic bars, beef, you know, bacon bars, turkey bars.
带了一些。
Took some of those.
我带了大概六根。
I took about six of those.
我没吃意面。
I had no pasta.
基本上没有，就是米饭、豆子、蔬菜这些。
None of it was basically, all it was it it was base rice, beans, veggies.
这就是我所有的餐食。
Those are all my meals.
就这些，没了。
Base that that was it.
我就做到这个程度。
That's as far as I went.
好的。
Okay.
而且我们之前也聊过这个，因为你说，你看。
And and we we even talked about that because, you know, you you said, look.
我不想变得……怎么说呢，不胖了，我说，不。
I don't wanna become not know, unfat I said, no.
这样做不会让你失去对脂肪的适应能力，因为，你知道，这和碳水后置的原理差不多。
You won't lose your fat adaptiveness by doing that because, you know, it's kinda same principle as carb backloading.
明白吗？
You know?
反正你当时已经非常耗尽了。
It's you were so depleted anyway.
你的身体只是在补充它需要的糖原。
Your body was just getting back to the glycogen it would need.
而白天你在活动的时候，吃的是高脂肪的食物。
And, there you were during the day while you were on the move, you were eating higher fat.
那你觉得你每天大概摄入多少卡路里？
Now what do you think you were taking in calorie wise per day?
早上我会吃一顿比较丰盛的。
So in the morning, I would have a bigger meal.
第一顿早餐大概在四百到六百卡路里之间。
So something between four three hundred and six hundred calories was that that first breakfast.
对。
Right.
然后，我们每天平均要跑一个马拉松，我每天大概需要六小时四十五分钟到七小时三十分钟，看情况。
And then, you know, we were doing we were averaging a marathon a day, and it was taking me about between six forty five and seven thirty, depending on the day.
我每天摄入的热量，最多也就五百到七百卡路里。
And I was eating no more, I would say, between five and seven hundred calories a day.
不会超过这个数。
No more than that.
这是在你早餐的基础上吗？
On top of what you have for breakfast?
对，是在早餐的基础上。
On top of what I had it for breakfast.
所以我觉得我一天的总摄入量没超过。
So I don't think I passed in one day.
1200卡路里，可能也就1100卡路里。
1,200 calories, maybe 1,100 calories.
这就是我一天算出来的热量。
That's the math that I did in one day.
好的。
Okay.
那很明显，比赛有多少人参加？
So obviously, you know, how many people were in the race?
100人。
A 100.
我们一开始有126个人。
We started with a 126 people.
好的。
Okay.
所以吃这么少的热量，还不吃糖，而且我觉得这比赛整体是上坡的。
So eating those few calories and no sugar, and I think it's a net uphill race.
我猜130个人里，你最后跑了155名？
I'm guessing out of a 130 people, you finished a 155?
谁？
Who?
我吗？
Me?
对。
Yeah.
那第几名？
And what plate?
第几名？
And what no.
我得了第三十四名。
I came in thirty fourth place.
哦哦，等等。
Oh oh, so wait.
等等。
Wait.
等等。
Wait.
你只用很少的糖就做到了，还进了前25%。
You were able to do this with very little sugar, and you finished in the top 25%.
没错。
That's right.
我基本上没怎么用糖，可能吧，我当时一直在算糖的克数，因为那对我来说很重要，我真的很想知道自己在这方面的情况。
I was able to do it with no basically, I probably had I I was calculating the amount of grams of sugar because that was important to me because I really wanted to know where I stood with that.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得我七天里摄入的糖没超过100克，可能也就120克。
I don't think that I did more than 100 grams of sugar, maybe 120 grams of sugar into seven days.
而且你每天跑得比一场上坡马拉松还厉害。
And you were running better than an uphill marathon every day.
每一天都是。
Every single day.
哇。
Wow.
难以置信。
Unbelievable.
是的。
Yep.
现在，我跟你说实话，维尼。
Now And I'll be honest with you, Vinnie.
我不骗你。
I'm not gonna lie.
不好意思打断你，但我……
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I'm
没事。
No.
请说。
Go.
我担心是因为我在想，天哪，这样做对吗？
Worry because I'm thinking, man, is this right?
这是……我该不该这么做？
Is this is this should I be doing this?
我该不该再多吃点东西？
Should I be stuffing myself with more food?
我该不该加糖？
Should I be putting sugar in?
我是说，我该不该问别人要些鹅肉？
I mean, should I be asking people for some goose?
因为我担心，你知道，第一天，不是所有人，但只有26英里、30英里。
Because I was worried that, you know, day one, anybody not anybody, but it's only 26 miles, 30 miles.
对吧？
Right?
好的。
Okay.
对。
Right.
大多数人应该都能走完那个距离。
Most most people could walk that.
是的。
Yeah.
第二天，又是一个马拉松。
Day two, another marathon.
现在我已经到了第三天。
And now I'm on day three.
第三天是52英里的路程。
Day three is a 52 mile day.
我在外面待了将近21个小时。
I was out there for twenty one hours almost.
而且就算那天，文尼，我估计连1500卡路里都没消耗到。
And even that day, Vinnie, I don't even think I did 1,500 calories.
连那个都不到。
Not even that.
我想我大概消耗了1200卡路里。
I think I did 1,200 calories.
然后我就想，好吧。
And I'm thinking, okay.
这肯定不对劲。
Something's not right here.
我觉得自己快要撑不住了。
So I'm gonna blow up.
结果第四天还是这样，第五天也一样。
And then day four, the same thing again, and day five again.
我就想，好吧。
And I'm thinking, okay.
等等。
Hold on.
这是怎么回事？
What's going on?
连去年获胜的一个人都问我，卡洛斯，你吃了多少卡路里？
Even one of the guys, the winners of last year asked me, Carlos, how many calories have you been eating?
我告诉他后，他问，你是怎么做到的？
And I told him, he goes, how are you doing that?
我……我也不知道。
And I and I I don't know.
我不想告诉他我的做法，因为我不想被质疑。
And I didn't wanna tell him what I was doing because I didn't wanna get questioned about it.
对。
Right.
但跟你说实话，维尼，我当时很担心。
But I'm telling you, Vinnie, I was worried.
到了第六天，我就想，好吧。
And then day six came, and I'm like, okay.
这个方法有效。
This is working.
对。
Yeah.
然后到了第七天。
And then day day seven came.
那是一个八英里的上坡路，海拔上升了2000英尺，我嗖地一下就上去了。
It was a eight mile pretty much uphill, a 2,000 feet of gain of elevation, and I zoomed up that thing.
完全没有崩溃。
Zero crash.
完全没有崩溃。
Zero crash.
七天。
Seven days.
没有崩溃。
No crashing.
没有崩溃。
No crashing.
哥们，我觉得我们解决得挺好的。
Dude, I think we figured it out pretty good.
对。
Yeah.
我在想，不知道你明年还想不想回去。
I I'm trying to, I I don't know if you wanna go back next year.
我在琢磨怎么能在明年为你做得更好。
I'm trying to figure out how we could do it better next year for you.
你看，我一直都是这样，我们俩，你知道的，到后面开始一起吃午饭了。
See, that's always my thing is like, we kind of, you and I, you know, we started having lunch together towards the end.
是的。
Yeah.
我
I
是的。
did.
我不再收你电话费了，直接一起吃午饭就行。
I quit charging you for phone calls, and I just meet me for lunch.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
那确实，挺好的。
That was, yeah, it was good.
对。
Yeah.
是的，那真是太棒了。
It was, yeah, that was great.
而且，我跟你说，Vinnie，和你聊完之后我才意识到，你根本没发现自己对脂肪的适应程度有多高。
And, it was a, I'm telling you, Vinnie, and and what I and after talking to you is you don't realize how fat adapted you are.
当你把那些糖都戒掉的时候——我觉得我们之前聊过这个——
When you when you get rid of all that sugar I think we talked about this before.
当你把那些糖和那些小麦都戒掉之后，你就不用担心炎症了。
When you get rid of all that sugar and all that wheat, you don't have to worry about the inflammation.
你也不用担心血糖骤降的问题。
You don't have to worry about the crashes.
你只是没意识到，你的身体本来就该一直这样运作。
You just don't realize that your body that's the way your body should be always working.
对。
Right.
而不是吃糖三十分钟就垮掉，然后又塞更多糖和垃圾进去。
Not not thirty minutes of sugar and then you crash and then you put more sugar and more trash.
比赛时很多人就是那个状态。
More that that's how people were during the race.
一眼就能看出来。
You could tell.
他们能量都耗尽了。
They were depleted.
你知道吗，大家都说，哎呀，我需要糖。
You know, they were you know, people were like, oh, I need sugar.
你看他们整天都在吃那些能量胶，我可做不到。
You see them just popping those those goos all day long, and I can't do that.
对。
Yeah.
我得找到一种新的运动方式，这就是了。
I had to find a new I had to find a new another way of of of moving, and this is it.
没有比这更好的了。
There's nothing better.
我跟你说。
I'm telling you.
这才是正确的做法。
This is the way to do it.
那你有没有注意到——我不确定你是否关注这类事情，但我想问问你和其他人的情况。
Now did you notice I I don't know if you pay attention to this kind of thing, but I'm gonna ask you about you and other people.
你在那些多日赛跑中，有没有出现那种小腿肿胀得像大象腿一样的炎症？
Were you getting that inflammation people get on those multi day races where they they get kind of the elephantitis in their calves?
你有这种情况吗？
Did you get any of that?
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
完全没有。
Not at all.
没有发炎。
No inflammation.
我的手有一点点肿，因为你知道，手一直在动，对吧。
My my my hands a little bit because my hand know, your hands are just constantly Yeah.
对。
The yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
徒步的时候总是这样。
That always happens when you hike.
血液就是循环不出去。
The your blood just doesn't circulate out.
没错。
Right.
你
You
你的小腿和其他地方没有出现那种大面积的浮肿吧。
didn't get you didn't get the big giant fluid in your in your calves and everything.
没有那种情况。
Nothing like that.
一点都没有，老兄。
Nothing at all, man.
你注意到了吗
Did you notice
然后，然后
And and
继续说。
Go on.
你说吧。
Go ahead.
抱歉。
I'm sorry.
你注意到其他人也有这种情况吗？
Did you notice that happening to other people?
哦，那当然。
Oh, for sure.
大家的脚都肿得厉害。
People's feet were swollen big time.
非常厉害。
Big time.
你一点都没肿？
And you didn't get any of that?
完全没有。
I got zero.
你知道吗，我甚至买了双倍的鞋。
You know, I even bought my shoes doubles.
我我我买大了一码。
I I I put a size bigger.
是的。
Yeah.
因为我想，好吧。
Because I I figured, okay.
我的脚会肿，结果一点事都没有。
My feet are gonna and nothing.
一点都没有。
Nothing at all.
我的脚从来没肿过。
My feet never swelled up.
以前也有过这种情况，我吃了糖之后脚就肿得厉害。
I I and it's happened before where I've used sugar and my feet just blow up.
但这次没有。
Not this time.
然后，你知道，重点是，Vinnie，我想再强调一下这一点。
And then, you know, the thing is is, Vinnie, is again, I wanna reemphasize this.
一天的话，我能理解。
One day, I get it.
两天也行，但连续七天，我真的佩服，因为那是日复一日，我靠极少的卡路里撑了下来。
Two days, I get but seven days, that's where I was in awe because it happened day after day after day after I was able to sustain that with minimal calories.
你看。
Look.
Serena以前总说，哎呀，我绝对跑不了25英里，你知道她平时跑的是什么路。
Serena used to say all the time, oh, I can never go out for a 25 mile run, and you know where she runs.
我是说，你那天还跟她跑了一段山路呢。
I mean, you you ran part of that hill with her one day.
对。
Yeah.
是的。
Uh-huh.
确实跑了。
I sure did.
对。
Yeah.
她总是在那边的山坡上跑上跑下。
And she runs up and down those hills over there all the time.
不好意思。
Excuse me.
然后，她以前总说，哦，不行了。
And, yeah, she used to go, oh, no.
在从海滩回来的最后一个坡上，我需要一个能量胶。
On that last hill coming back up from the beach, I need I need a goo.
我需要一个能量胶。
I need a goo.
她现在连能量胶都不吃了。
She doesn't even take a goo anymore.
她已经两年没吃过能量胶了。
It's been two years since she's taken a goo.
你知道吗？
You know?
是的。
Yeah.
你知道吗，Vinnie，最棒的是我们周五那天，也就是第六赛段——抱歉，是第五赛段。
You you you know what was amazing, Vinnie, is that we did a day, which was Friday, which was stage six I'm sorry.
周五是第五赛段。
Stage five on Friday.
我们有一段10英里的路程要完成。
We had a five a 10 mile stretch to to come in.
所以那10英里加上第二天还有8英里。
So I had that that 10 miles plus I have another eight the next day.
记得吗，全程都是上坡，对吧？
Remember, it's it's always trending uphill, right, the whole time?
对。
Right.
我已经完成了五个马拉松，而且我真的是三十秒跑、三十秒停地跑完了那段路。
I have already five marathons under me plus, and I literally ran that thing thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off.
三十秒跑、三十秒停，因为我不想走。
Thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off because I didn't wanna walk it.
我想说的是，即使经历了这些，而且没吃糖，我仍然有体力去跑。
And my point is that even after all that and no sugar, I still had the energy to run.
哇。
Wow.
所以，是的。
So that yeah.
那，那正是让我觉得不可思议的地方。
That that's what that's what was amazing to me.
周六早上，我跑了——我是说，不是一开始就那样。
On Saturday morning, I ran I mean, not the first.
前半段，我走得很快，偶尔小跑一下。
The first half, I hiked it fast, little run.
但后半段，从四英里到八英里，我大部分都是跑下来的。
But the second half up to four up to eight miles, I ran most of it.
而且我差不多已经跑了167英里了。
And and and I'm about almost at a 167 miles.
我真的很投入这件事。
I'm into this thing.
上坡，两千英尺的爬升，我还在跑。
Going uphill, 2,000 foot climb, and I'm still running.
我说这些不是为了炫耀。
I'm not saying that to brag.
我说这些是因为糖真的不是必需的。
The reason I'm saying it is because the sugar is not necessary.
你根本不需要糖。
You don't need the sugar.
对。
Yeah.
去做吧。
Do it.
你不需要它。
You don't need it.
对。
Yeah.
你看，你这是在跟信徒讲道。
You look, you're preaching to the choir.
在结束之前，你是Pure Vitamin Club的会员吗？
Before we go, are you a member of Pure Vitamin Club?
当然，我是。
Of course, I am.
我记得那天我在那里。
I remember the day when I was there.
嗯，你知道吗？
Well, you know what?
不如你来帮我们做个广告吧？
Why don't you do the ad for us?
跟我们说说你有多喜欢这个产品。
Tell us how you like the the product.
你知道吗，我特别喜欢它，因为它没有填充物，没有沙粒感。
You know, I love it because, you know, I have no filler, no sand.
而且我有一件Pure Vitamin Club的T恤，好多人问我在哪儿买的。
And I actually had a Pure Vitamin Club t shirt, and I got asked a million times where it was.
所以，我算是你的活广告牌了。
So I was a walking billboard for you, by the way.
因为每个人都会问我，那是什么？
Because everybody would ask me, what is that?
我就说，哦，让我给你讲讲。
I go, oh, let me tell you about it.
这是一种维生素。
This is a vitamin.
这是世界上最纯净的维生素。
This is the purest vitamin on the in the world.
没有沙子，没有填充物。
Zero sand, zero fillers.
你们一定要买。
You guys gotta get it.
我还说它超级便宜。
And I said it's super cheap.
我没骗你们。
I'm not lying to you.
我肯定被问了三四十次那是什么，因为，你知道，我们当时在沙漠里。
I must have been asked thirty, forty times what that was because, you know, no and we're in the middle of the desert.
还没人知道Pure Vitamin Club。
Nobody knows Pure Vitamin Club yet.
不过，这真的很棒。
So but it was it's great.
我每天都用。
I use it every day.
每一天都在用，Vinnie。
Every single day, Vinnie.
是的。
Yeah.
你知道吗？
You know?
我强烈推荐它。
I highly recommend it.
我们非常喜欢这个产品。
We we we love the product.
事实上，我和Andy之前去参加了Silver States 508赛事，Chris Costner也在，我们是赞助商之一。
As a matter of fact, Andy and I were out at the Silver States 508 Chris Costner was we were one of the sponsors.
对，你知道的，Pete，我们当时在发免费样品。
And yeah, you know, Pete, you know, we were handing out free samples.
我们不是随便给的，你知道，我们把样品放进了所有参赛选手的礼品袋里，但工作人员是没有礼品袋的。
We didn't just give it to, know, we put it in all the swag bags for the riders, but the crew members don't get swag bags.
所以我手边留了一大堆样品。
So I kept a ton of samples on hand.
我们发了几百份样品，后来大家反馈说，你懂的，我们发现维生素的销量那几天明显上涨了。
We handed out hundreds and hundreds of samples and people got back and they, you know, we noticed that our rate of selling vitamins went up for a couple of days.
都是那些买了产品的人，因为大家确实想要好产品。
It was all of those people buying the product because people really want a good product.
实际上，有几个人，比如那位超级滑雪运动员格伦·普莱克斯的妻子。
As a matter of fact, a couple of people, it was a Glen Plakes wife, the ultra skier.
她第一天就吃了一片。
She took one on day one.
等她回到我负责的第七个计时站时，她说：‘天哪，我空腹吃了你的维生素，因为车上有人知道这个维生素，说可以空腹吃。’
And when she came back through time station seven that I was working, she goes, Oh my God, I took your vitamin on an empty stomach because someone else in a car knew about the vitamins and all you can take it on empty stomach.
那感觉不错吧？
Is that fresh?
那好吃吗？
Is that good?
她说，我以前吃复合维生素总是吐。
She goes, I've always thrown up from a multivitamin.
但这个不会。
Not this one.
这个不会。
Not this one.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
That's correct.
所以你知道吗？
So You know what?
真希望你能……我知道。
Wish you would have I know.
你知道吗？
You know what?
我们本来可以做到的。
We could have done it.
我又想了想这件事。
I I was thinking about it again.
我们当时应该拿一些样品，你给我一些，我就能分给很多跑步的人。
We should have taken some you should have given me some samples, and I could have given it to a lot of these runners.
那效果肯定很好。
That would have been great.
明年我们就这么办。
Next year, we will do that.
我们会发很多样品，然后
We'll give a bunch of samples, and
肯定的。
For sure.
你可以把它们带到那里去。
You can bring them out there.
对。
Yeah.
那太好了。
That'll be great.
那太好了。
That'll be great.
说实话，这真的是个很棒的维生素。
Honestly, it was it's a great vitamin.
我很喜欢。
I love it.
我每天都用。
I I use it every day.
我买了三个月的量。
I got the three month supply.
这是最好的选择。
It's the best way to go.
而且更便宜。
It's cheaper.
对。
Yeah.
我很喜欢。
I love it.
三个月的量加上运费，每天不到10美元。
Three month supplies with shipping folks less than $10 a day.
我们就以这个作为结尾吧。
We're gonna make that the final word.
我想感谢卡洛斯。
I I wanna thank Carlos.
请稍等一下。
Hang on just for a second.
我会在节目结束后私下跟你道别，但我想感谢卡洛斯·多内斯，不仅感谢你今天来上节目，还感谢你去外面尝试并开创了一个为期七天的NSNG活动。
I'm gonna say goodbye to you off the air, but I wanna thank Carlos Dones for not only, coming on the show and doing this today, but for going out there and kind of pioneering a seven day event doing it in NSNG.
我之前还挺担心你的，兄弟，但你做得真的很好。
I was worried about you, buddy, but, you did you did really well.
所以，谢谢你来参加节目。
So, thank you for coming on.
谢谢你，维尼。
Thank you, Vinnie.
保重。
Take care.
代表卡洛斯·多内斯，我是维尼·托托里奇。
On behalf of Carlos Dones, my name is Vinnie Tortorich.
把活力注入生活，带着热情去做。
Put life into living and do it with enthusiasm.
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