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在《每日足球》播客中，里奇·爱德华兹为您带来英超联赛回顾。
On the Football Daily Podcast, Premier League review with Rick Edwards.
大家好，欢迎收听英超联赛回顾。
Hello, and welcome to the Premier League review.
终于，在漫长的国际比赛日之后，我们又回来了。
Finally, back after the interminable international break.
和我一起分析周末比赛的是《电讯报》的北方足球记者卢克·爱德华兹，以及前英超前锋克林顿·莫里森。
And joining me to break down the weekend's action, the Telegraph's northern football writer Luke Edwards and former Premier League striker Clinton Morrison.
晚上好，伙计们。
Evening, fellas.
你们怎么样？
How are we?
老样子，打个六分吧。
Solid six out of 10 as usual.
我觉得我大概，嗯，我们刚看完利物浦对曼城那场比赛。
I reckon I'm about, well, we're coming straight off the back of that Liverpool City game.
你现在心情不太好。
You're not in a good place.
你是不是心情不好，还是只有两分？
Are you not in a good or two out of 10?
我气死了。
I'm fuming.
我喜欢这样。
I like that.
简直气炸了。
Absolutely fuming.
我不怪你，兄弟。
I don't blame you, mate.
我不怪你。
I don't blame you.
哦，我是说，我们就是……
Oh, I mean, we're just...
嗯，我们有个开局
Well, we've got a start
在安菲尔德，对吧，真的。
there, haven't we, really, at Anfield.
所以曼城在被认定违反英超财务规则的所有指控后，迎来了第一场比赛。
So Manchester City's first game since being found guilty of all the charges related to breach of the Premier League's financial rules.
而曼城最终以三比零轻松战胜了十人应战的利物浦。
And City, in the end, very comfortable three nil winners against a 10 man Liverpool.
所以赛季开局完美，但场上的括号。
So perfect start to the season, but brackets on the pitch.
而更多的括号，场外开局并不完美。
And further brackets, not a perfect start off the pitch.
而且，我们就知道那会是个狂热的气氛。
And and it was such we knew it was gonna be a feverish atmosphere.
我觉得所有人的目光都集中在这场比赛上，看它怎么发展，看曼城的球员和工作人员怎么反应、怎么应对，真的很有意思。
I think all eyes were on this game and fascinating to see how how it played out, how City's players, how City's staff reacted, coped with the situation.
最后，我知道你怎么想的，但瑞安·赫拉芬贝赫在六十二分钟被罚下后，比赛基本上就结束了。
And in the end, I I know what you think, but when Ryan Gravenberch got sent off after sixty two minutes, it sort of was game over.
这真的很可惜，因为比赛其实挺……
And it was a real shame because it was quite...
挺胶着的。
It was pretty tight.
在那之前比赛还挺精彩的，卢克。
It was quite an exciting game up till that point, Luke.
挺精彩的。
Quite exciting.
更多是
More
更多是因为场外的情况，而不是比赛本身。
more because of the because of the situation than the game.
这背后的故事，或者说背景。
The the the backstory to it or the backdrop.
但我想说的是，谢谢利物浦，让整个英格兰足球公众失望了，他们本来希望……
But I mean, I I would just like to say thank you, Liverpool, for letting down the entire English football public who wanted
我知道。
to I know.
我知道。
I know.
像这样的比赛，你很少会遇到，你知道所有人。
Like, very rare that you play a game like this where you know everyone.
今天所有人都团结在利物浦身后，但他们却搞砸了，是的。
Everyone's united behind Liverpool today, and they and they and they managed to to fumble Yeah.
然后在主场被狠狠教训了一顿。
And get get spanked ring y'all at home.
关于格拉文贝赫，我确实同意你的看法，因为那确实是一个很软的红牌。
The Graven Badge, I I do agree with you because it's a really soft it's a really soft red card as well.
我不觉得
I don't
这两个都不算。
think either of them.
我觉得，对我来说
I I mean, for me
第二个是边缘黄牌，但第一个我觉得不算。
The second one's a borderline yellow, but I don't think the first one was.
第一个……
First one...
第二个……
The sec...
我的意思是，第二个，如果你已经有一张黄牌，你知道，而且你站在杰里米·多库的错位侧。
I mean, you'd say on the second one, if you're on a yellow, you're, you know, and you're the wrong side of Jeremy Docku.
也许就离远点，但这也
Maybe just stay stay clear, but it's
还在自己的半场。
still inside his own half.
对，就是这样。
It's like Yeah.
然后还有一件事让我很烦，你看，我们都知道曼城会以对抗的态度来应对这一切。
And and then also what annoyed me was, look, we all know Manchester City are gonna approach this all with defiance.
今天我们看到了他们的球迷就是这样。
We saw it from their supporters today.
我们也看到了他们那种不退缩、加倍下注的态度，面对无可辩驳的证据。
We've seen it from the don't back down, double down attitude of the irrefutable evidence.
他们会团结一致，对抗那些希望他们受罚的英格兰足球界其他人。
They are they are gonna be united in their defiance against the rest of English football that wants to see them punished.
今天我们看到了这一点。
And we saw that today.
但话说回来，他们本来就不受欢迎。
But then, you know, they're already an unpopular team.
但是当格拉文贝赫第二次犯规时，恩佐·费尔南德斯对着裁判挥舞着想象中的黄牌，他们这不是给自己找麻烦吗？
But when Gravenberch made the second foul, Enzo Fernandez waving an imaginary yellow card at the referee, they don't help themselves, do they?
嗯，我是说，他从来都不帮自己。
Well, I mean, he never helps himself.
我是说，他似乎很享受当那个终极反派角色。
I mean, he he seems to revel in being the ultimate pantomime villain.
但利物浦今天让我们所有人都失望了，恐怕是这样。
But Liverpool let us all down today, I'm afraid.
这是一场势均力敌的比赛，我觉得实际上利物浦在下半场开始时稍微占优。
It was it was a tight game, and I I thought actually, Liverpool started the second half and were marginally the better of the two teams.
但一旦红牌出现，曼城就开始发力了，这让你想起他们有多……
But once the, you know, once the sending off happened, Man City sort of went through the gears, and it just reminds you of how what a...
不管他们做了什么，不管他们是怎么做到的，他们确实打造了一支非常出色的球队。
Whatever they've done, however they've done it, they have built a fantastic football team.
而且多库还替补上场了。
And you got Doku coming off the bench.
欧洲最好的中锋哈兰德进了前两个球。
You've the best center forward in Europe in in Harlan scoring the first two goals.
没多少球队能跟他们抗衡，我觉得今年夏天花了一亿一千六百万英镑签下的埃利奥特·安德森表现非常出色。
Not many teams can live with them, and I thought Elliott Anderson, a £116,000,000 signing this summer was was was brilliant.
所以尽管这让我们很痛心，我们所有人都很痛心，当我们……
So as much as it pains us, and it pains us all when we...
你知道，这些指控悬在他们头上，会让整个英超赛季都蒙上阴影。
You know, it's gonna it's gonna sour this entire Premier League season with these charges hanging over them.
但他们今天确实表现更好，也赢了。
But they were the better team today, and they won.
而且他们……
And they are...
如果抛开所有指控和可能的处罚不谈，他们就是本赛季能赢英超的两支球队之一。
If you take away all the charges and whatever the punishments may be, they they are one of the two teams in me who can win the Premier League this season.
我觉得他们下半场表现太出色了。
I thought they were phenomenal in the second
他们进了三个非常漂亮的球，克林顿。
They they scored three very, very good goals, Clinton.
不。
No.
他们确实进了。
They did.
但你知道吗？
But you know what?
我怪裁判。
I I blame the referee.
那不该是黄牌。
That's not a yellow card.
第二个我不认。
I'm not having the second one.
我看过很多比赛，第一个那种情况……
I've seen so many games where the first one...
这根本就不是一张黄牌。
It's not even a yellow card.
第一张是对埃利奥特·安德森的那次。
The first one on Elliot Anderson.
他倒地抱着腿差不多一分钟，裁判才决定给他一张黄牌。
It's only because he goes down holding his leg for about a minute, and the referee decides they're gonna give him a yellow.
第二张，你给格雷厄姆和伯奇一个警告就行了。
The second one, you can just give Graham and Burch a warning.
我见过太多次了，球员已经有一张黄牌，但那次犯规根本不该给黄牌，而且曼城球员围着裁判转也没用。
I've seen it so many times where people are on a yellow card and it's what It is never a yellow card, and it don't help that all the City players run around the referee and straight
对，没错。
away Exactly.
他他他他改变了主意，然后给了第二张。
He he he he changes his mind, and he gives him the second.
这不是因为在那之前，富勒姆是不是...
It's not because up until then Did Fulham
那挥舞动作确实该吃黄牌，不过不是。
does get a yellow for for brandishing than No.
不是。
No.
但我之前看了那场比赛。
But I watched the game earlier on.
之前。
Earlier on.
对。
Okay.
有人因为那样做吃过黄牌。
Someone got one from doing that.
所以我的意思就是这个。
So that's what I mean.
我只是想说，有时候裁判会判错。
I just say sometimes with the referees, they make the wrong calls.
我觉得利物浦在比赛开始时表现不错，特别是在那段时间，尤其是格拉文贝赫，在他拿到牌之前的那段时间，嗯，格拉文贝赫
And I thought Liverpool were good at the start of the game and in that spell, particularly, Gravenberch in that spell just then before he got Well, Gravenberch
是利物浦表现最好的球员
was Liverpool's best player
对，我就是这个意思。是的。
to That's what I'm saying And Yeah.
穆尼奥斯在边路表现不错。
Munoz was good on the rack.
他们制造了不少麻烦，我觉得他们真的踢得很好。
They were causing problems, and I thought they were really good.
我还以为他们会进球呢。
And I thought they were gonna score.
那段时间他们完全占据了上风。
That was the spell where they were on top.
然后一旦少了一个人……
And then as soon as it goes down to 10...
这总是很难的。
It's always difficult.
而且当你能够换上像多库这样出色的球员时，他的进球……
And when you can bring on players like Doku, who's outstanding, his goals...
他改变了曼城的比赛。
He changed the game for City.
因为他们看起来确实不太……
Because they didn't really look...
我看着他在想，谁会来打破僵局之类的？
I'm looking at him thinking, who's gonna break break down the door and stuff like that?
哈兰德错过了一个好机会，但你不能给那个球员两次机会，因为他会惩罚你。
Harlan's missed a good opportunity, but you can't give that player two opportunity because he will punish you.
所以……
So...
你知道吗？
And you know what?
利物浦本赛季到目前为止有三名最好的球员缺阵。
Liverpool have got three of their best players so far this season missing.
就是博斯莱特、伊萨克、加波。
So Boslight, Isaac, Gapo.
这比赛就不一样了。
It's a different game.
你有……
You got...
利物浦在对阵目前最强的球队之一时，不能承受三名核心球员缺阵，但他们确实打进了三个精彩的进球。
Liverpool can't afford to have three of their best players missing when they're playing against one of the best teams around at the moment, but they did score three superb goals.
我觉得多库就是那个改变比赛的人。
And I think Doku, he was the difference maker for me.
他的进球太精彩了。
His goal's fantastic.
你……
You...
你见过他多少次用右脚内切？
How many times have you seen him cut inside on his right foot?
那个进球是他喜欢的方式，对吧？
That that goal is a goal he likes to score, isn't it?
没错。
Exactly.
没错。
Exactly.
我只是……
I just...
这挺有意思的，对吧？
It it it was interesting, wasn't it?
看比赛的时候那种感觉，你会意识到，这个赛季剩下的每场曼城比赛，或者直到有什么结果出来之前，你都会有这种感觉。
The kind of the feeling watching the game and you realize that this is the feeling that you're gonna have watching every city game for the rest of this season or until there is some sort of resolution.
因为你会觉得有点生气，但又不知道该把气撒在哪儿，因为就像我在解说里说的，其实这根本不是球员的错。
Because you sort of feel, don't know, like a kind of an anger, but you don't really know where to direct the anger because it's, as I said in commentary, actually, none of the players' fault.
这不是恩佐·马雷斯卡的错。
It's not Enzo Maresca's fault.
所以你就有点那种，对，说不清道不明的愤怒。
So you kind of have this, yeah, slightly nebulous fury.
而且你希望他们受点苦，尽管你知道让他们受苦其实不太公平。
And and you want them to suffer even though you know it's not really fair for them to suffer.
现在这个局面，对剩下的赛季来说，真的是非常非常糟糕。
And it's just a it's a really, really horrible just a horrible setup now for the for the for the rest of the season.
这对英超联赛来说是一个巨大的污点。
It's it's a massive stain on the Premier League.
而且那……
And that...
但这就是问题所在。
But that's the problem.
我觉得英超联赛的声誉因此受到了损害。
I think the the Premier League has suffered reputational damage from this.
而且我觉得曼城已经……
And I and I think Manchester City have...
我是说，体育观赏的反面是什么？
I mean, what is the opposite of sports watching?
你知道，那个常被提到的说法，就是俱乐部在……
You know, that phrase that's banded around where clubs in...
你知道，国家通过足球来提升自身形象、展现软实力。
You know, nation states improve the image of their own countries and project soft power through football.
我们能不能
Can we
自己造一个词？
coin our own?
我们能不能叫它“体育玷污”？
Can we call it sports soiling?
但事实就是这样。
But that's what it's done.
这就是它造成的后果。
That's what it's done.
有机会。
Has got a chance.
体育就是……
Sports are...
它们被体育玷污了。
They are sports soiled.
体育玷污了。
Sports soiled.
而且这确实……
And it it is...
这确实让你……
It does make you...
让你感到心寒。
It makes you feel cold.
确实如此。
It really does.
而且这场比赛之前一直有很多炒作。
And there've been all this hype building up to this game.
我很抱歉，曼城球迷们，因为里克你说得对。
And I'm sorry, Manchester City fans, because, Rick, you're right.
这不是他们的错。
It's not their fault.
不。
No.
我不这么认为。
I don't.
他们会为
They are gonna bend their
他们弯曲
for them.
而且……
And...
但他们……
But they...
而且他们会表现得像上次那样，你知道吗？
And they're gonna behave like they did You know?
他们带来了充气香蕉，这是对上世纪八十年代他们还在第二级别联赛时流行起来的那个东西的致敬。
They brought they brought the inflatable bananas, which is a reference to the last time they were in the second tier when they made that popular in the nineteen eighties.
他们会坚持到底，展现出团结。
And they're gonna dig in, and they're gonna show unity.
但对其他人来说，现在看曼城的比赛真的很难受。
But for the rest of us, it's really hard to watch Manchester City at the moment.
而且我们基本上不可能为他们欢呼。
And it's certainly basically impossible for us to celebrate them.
我觉得这真的很可惜，因为这支球队太棒了，他们在英格兰足坛统治了……
And I think that's really, really sad when you've got this fantastic football team who have been the dominant force in English football for...
在瓜迪奥拉执教下，这十年下来，现在看他们比赛，你就是不喜欢他们。
Certainly under Pep Guardiola for for for ten years to now have this feeling when you're watching them where you just don't like them.
这确实是个问题。
And and and that's a problem.
这会是本赛季剩余时间里的一个问题。
That is gonna be a problem for the rest of the season.
我觉得，对广大公众来说，每一场胜利都会感觉空荡荡的。
Every win is gonna feel empty, I think, for the wider public.
克林顿，这对我来说其实挺奇怪的，作为利物浦球迷。
It's it's a strange thing, Clinton, actually, for me as a as a Liverpool fan.
因为虽然在过去十年里，瓜迪奥拉和克洛普之间的对决可以说是英超最具代表性的 rivalry，
Because although, you know, across the last ten years, Guardiola, Klopp was sort of the, you know, of this period, the defining kind of rivalry in in the Premier League.
我从来没有真正地……
I've never never really sort of...
我从来没有真正讨厌过曼城。
I never really hated City.
我从来没有……
I've never...
我……我不知道。
I I I don't know.
说实话，有很多俱乐部我真的很喜欢，但曼城一直不在其中。
Like, there's plenty of trust me, there's plenty of clubs I really, really do love, and and City just haven't been one of them.
我也说不清楚为什么。
Like, I I I can't really explain that.
但现在情况变了。
And now that has that has changed.
这是因为现在发生的所有事情。
It's because of everything that's, yeah, everything that's going on.
而且……
And...
但我想说的是，这些曼城球员，因为外界那些噪音，他们会有一个……
But the the one thing I would say is, you know, these city players, because of all the outside noise that is going on, they'll have a...
他们会团结...
They'll be knit...
现在会紧密团结在一起。
Close knit together now.
而且那
And that
会形成一种被围攻的心态，对吧？
will It's a siege mentality, isn't it?
是的。
It is.
没错。
It is.
就是与世界为敌，对吧？
Us against the world, isn't it?
而且你知道吗？
And because you know what?
我就知道……
I knew...
你知道吗？
And you know what?
很多人问我，这是不是……
A lot of people were asking me, is this the...
我觉得这会是场完美的比赛，因为大家都知道，去安菲尔德球场，气氛会非常敌对。
I thought it would be the perfect game because everyone knows when you go to Anfield, it is going to be hostile as anything.
如果他们能撑过比赛的前十五、二十分钟——他们确实做到了，而且那段时间确实很敌对——那我觉得他们会逐渐进入状态，他们也确实开始进入状态了。
And if they could get through the first fifteen, twenty minutes of that game, which they did, and it was hostile, then I thought, you know, they'd grow into the game, and they did start growing into the game.
你知道他们有什么吗？
And you know what they've got?
他们场上有那种有个性、有领导力的人。
They've got, like, characters and leaders on the pitch.
你们刚才也提到了这一点。
You lot just alluded to it.
埃利奥特·安德森。
Elliott Anderson.
哇。
Wow.
这签约太棒了。
What a signing.
我知道他们花了不少钱买他，但他可能会成为我很久以来见过的最佳签约之一。
I know they paid that much money for him, but he could turn out to be one of the best signings I've seen for a very long time.
他掌控着中场，我知道纽卡斯尔球迷可能会大喊，谁……
He runs the midfield, and I know Newcastle fans will probably scream and say, who...
我知道他之前去了森林队，但纽卡斯尔不得不卖掉他。
I know he went to Forest before that, but Newcastle had to sell him.
你知道吗
Do you know what
我的意思是？
I mean?
没错。
Exactly.
但问题就在这儿，不是吗？
But that's the problem, isn't it?
这就是问题所在。
That is the problem.
曼城做的这件事，整个问题就在于，我们可以争论规则，说规则需要重新审视，规则可能有问题。
That is the whole problem what Manchester City have done is that we can debate the rules and say that the rules need to be looked at and the rules need to be wrong.
但其他俱乐部必须遵守这些规则，纽卡斯尔不得不卖掉他们这一代最优秀的青训球员，就为了……
But other clubs have had to abide by those rules, and Newcastle had to sell their best academy graduate for a generation for...
基本上，他们只拿到了1500万英镑，还花了2000万英镑买了一个他们根本不想要的诺丁汉森林门将，就为了遵守那些规则。
Basically, they got £15,000,000 and spent £20,000,000 on a goalkeeper they didn't want from Nottingham Forest to abide by those rules.
今年夏天，埃利奥特·安德森以1.16亿英镑去了曼城。
This summer, Elliott Anderson's gone to Manchester City for a 116,000,000.
所以问题就出在这里。
So that's where the problems occur.
这就是为什么会有怨恨。
That is why there is a resentment.
我不太确定曼城球迷是否明白，其他俱乐部为了遵守PSR，不得不做出非常艰难、痛苦的决定，而他们却根本没当回事。
And I don't know quite know whether City supporters have grasped that, that it is the fact that other clubs have had to make really difficult, painful decisions to comply with PSR, and they didn't bother.
然后他们还隐瞒了。
And then they hid it.
然后他们还不配合。
And then they didn't cooperate.
所以这就是问题所在。
So that that is the problem.
由于各种原因，积怨已经非常深了。
There's so much ill feeling that's built up for a variety of reasons.
在这个国家，我们本来就不喜欢作弊的人。
We don't like cheats in this country anyway.
我的意思是，这大概就是英国人的心态吧，不管对不对。
I mean, that that is kind of the English mentality or, you know, rightly or wrongly.
而且就是，是的，你知道，你想要……
And it's just, yeah, you you know, you want...
大家都希望他们输。
People wanted them to lose.
而且我觉得，克林顿，你说得对。
And I think, you know, Clinton, you're right.
克林顿，你看到球员们开场时进场的那种肢体语言了吗？
Did you see their body language when the players came onto the pitch, Clinton, at the start?
看起来就是一脸坚毅。
Just looked like steely jawed.
你懂我的意思吗？
Do you know what I mean?
他们看起来特别坚定。
They look so determined.
对。
And Yeah.
这会给他们带来动力。
And it will fuel them.
这个赛季会给他们带来动力，因为他们是赢家。
It will fuel them this season because they're winners.
而且他们不会在意那些外界的噪音。
And and they won't mind all the outside noise.
卢克，你说得对，我觉得会是他们和阿森纳。
You made a good point, Luke, where you said that I think it will be it will be them and Arsenal.
赛季初我以为阿森纳会赢七八九分。
I thought at the start of the season, Arsenal would win it by about seven, eight, nine points.
现在我觉得曼城和阿森纳会一直拼到最后。
I think it will go right down to the wire between Man City and Arsenal now.
但是……
But...
因为……
Because...
我想，如果我是英超联赛的负责人，你绝对不能允许曼城本赛季赢得英超冠军。
Presumably, I mean, if if I'm in charge of the Premier League, you cannot you cannot have a situation where Manchester City win the Premier League this season.
你
You
能想象吗？
just Can imagine?
那会是
Would be Can
你能想象吗？
you imagine?
我是说，我……
I I mean, I...
那简直会
It'd just be
整个闹剧……
The whole far...
这会把整个赛季变成一场闹剧。
It'll turn a whole season into a fast rep.
那……
That...
这就是问题所在。
That's the problem.
如果他们真的那样做了，那……
If they did then...
而且所有人都知道这一点。
And everyone knows that.
所以，但你有你的程序正义。
So But you got you got due process.
他们不能操之过急。
They can't rush it.
而且我们知道曼城会一拖再拖，还会提出上诉。
And we know Manchester City delay and delay, and they challenge.
他们挑战每一项联赛规定……
They challenge every league...
钻法律空子，每个程序都挑战，所以才会拖了这么久才走到这一步。
Legal loophole, every procedure, and that's why it's taken so long to get to this point as it is.
至于他们在上诉过程中还能不能这么做，我就不清楚了。
Whether they can do that in the appeal process, I don't know.
但必须……
But it need...
我们必须在赛季结束前有个结果。
We need a resolution by the end of the season.
不然的话，整个赛季就白费了。
Otherwise, this whole season's gonna be a
埃尔林·哈兰德说过，曼城的每一个人，每一个球迷，都是俱乐部的一部分。
Erling Harlan said, every single person is part of Manchester City, every fan.
这是一个美好的时刻，会让我们铭记很久。
This is a lovely moment that will stay with us for a long time.
那确实很艰难。
It was tough.
过程很辛苦，但我们从头到尾都展现了惊人的意志力。
It was hard, but we showed amazing character from back to front.
我为每个人都感到骄傲。
So proud of everyone.
我，我……
I I...
我不太确定那能不能算是一个美好的时刻。
I'm not sure I could characterize that as a lovely moment.
我明白他的意思，但那算不上美好。
I know what he means, but it's not a lovely moment.
从他们的
From their
角度来看，可能确实如此，因为他们都刚结束国际比赛日的任务。
perspective, it probably is because they've all been away on international duty.
而且他们都在看相关的报道。
And they've all been reading about it.
你可以想象，他们肯定在互相交流。
And you can imagine they've been talking to each other.
他们会担心的。
And they will be concerned.
他们会感到不安。
They will be worried.
他们肯定会这样。
They will be.
你可以保护……
You can protect...
克林顿，你想怎么照顾就怎么照顾。
You could tend as much as you want, Clinton.
你可以把这一切都屏蔽掉，对吧？
You can block it all out, can't you?
但如果他们知道那些大牌球星、世界级国际足球运动员的可能性，如果曼城降级，这是有可能的
But if they know the possibility of those star big name, world class international footballers, if Manchester City are relegated, which is a possibility
哦，他们会失去很多
Oh, they'd lose does
这对他们的未来意味着什么？
that mean for their future?
所以他们肯定会为此担心。
So that they will have been worried about it.
我敢肯定
I'm I'm sure that
你会考虑一下……
you would would fit...
他们在国际比赛日的时候会考虑这个。
You'd think about it when they're on international duty.
球员们肯定一直在考虑这个情况。
The players would have definitely been been thinking about the situation.
但等他们回来，可能已经开过会了，队里的老将们会把大家聚在一起，开个会。
But when they come back, they probably would have had a meeting, and the senior pros woulda got everyone together, had a meeting.
而且一旦有了那种心态，就是现在我们对抗其他所有人。
And as you have that mentality, it's us against everyone else at the moment.
我们……
We...
而且……
And the on...
你知道吗？
And you know what?
作为一个团队，你不能……
As a group, you can't...
球员们，你只能管好自己在场上的事，这就是曼城球员会做的，也是他们今天下午对阵利物浦时所做的。
The players, you can only take care of the business what you do on the pitch, and that is what Man City players will do, and that's what they did this afternoon against Liverpool.
所以这让我好奇，西梅尼奥、加耶、安德森他们是什么感受。
So That does make me wonder about how Simenyo, Gaye, Anderson feel.
那些选择加盟的球员们，
The the the players that have chosen to
他们来了。
join arrived.
他们知道，总有一天，这家俱乐部会面临清算。
City knowing knowing that at some point, there is gonna be a a a reckoning at that club.
这挺有意思的，对吧？
It's interesting, isn't it?
但曼城一直很强硬，不是吗？
But Man City have been so belligerent about it, haven't they?
他们手里有确凿的证据。
The body of irrefutable evidence.
他们一直在向所有人传递这个信息，
I mean, that is the message they've been
就是这样的。
Sending to everyone.
我想他们确实会这样。
And I guess they will have.
这就是他们要传达的信息。
That's the message.
我们会赢的。
We're we're gonna win this.
我们会赢的。
We're gonna win this.
没什么好担心的。
There's nothing to worry about.
然后他们就说，哦，他们每周给我多少钱？
And they went, oh, how much are paying me a week?
哦，太好了。
Oh, brilliant.
显然他们也是这么跟瓜迪奥拉说的。
Which clearly what they told Pep Guardiola as well.
所以……
So...
这真的会很难。
It's gonna be really difficult.
这会……
It's gonna...
而且，是的，留在英超是我能想到的最好的描述方式。
And and and, yeah, a stay a stay on the Premier League is the best way I can describe it.
这个，这个……
The the
这场比赛的另一件事是，有一种……
The other thing about this game was there was a kind of...
有一种兴奋感，因为这是利物浦，而且感觉有点讽刺或合适，或者随便你怎么看，第一场比赛对阵利物浦，这支球队可以说是受影响最大的。
There was an excitement because it was because it was Liverpool, and it felt so sort of weirdly, like, ironic or appropriate or however you wanna look at it, that it would be Liverpool the first game that the team that's arguably been most sort of affected.
这个争论我们现在不需要进行。
Thus, an argument we don't need to have now.
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但这支利物浦队，并不是你希望在这种情况下遇到的那支利物浦队，因为克洛普麾下的利物浦，能在安菲尔德十五分钟内就把对手打崩。
But this Liverpool Team is not the Liverpool team that you would like to have played them in this circumstance because the Liverpool team under Jurgen Klopp could absolutely blow a team away at Anfield in sort of fifteen minutes.
而且，你知道，曼城就经历过那种比赛。
And, you know, City have been on the end of that kind of game.
而这支利物浦队，那个……
And this this Liverpool team, that...
我的意思是，他们现在对谁都做不到那样了，对吧？
I mean, they're they're not doing that to anyone, are they?
你知道吗？
You know what?
我觉得这是个……
I think it's a...
他们确实做不到那样了，但你知道吗？
They're not doing it, but you know what?
在这场比赛中，他们做到了。
They were in this game.
他们确实在场上有机会，
They were they were in it,
但就是没能把握住。
but they couldn't.
我明白你的意思。
I know what you're saying.
不过他们还是在创造机会。
They were still creating chances, though.
对，没错。
Like Yeah.
比如下半场有一次，扬·库马斯带球突破，我觉得他这场踢得不错，给对方制造了不少麻烦。
In the one second half where Young Kumas has gone through, who I thought had a good game, caused a lot of problems.
但我懂你说的。
But I know what you're saying.
你看像扬·库马斯这样的球员，现在可能也就是替补上场，踢个十到十五分钟。
If you look at, like, the likes of Young Kumas, he's probably someone now who would be coming off the bench and getting ten, fifteen minutes.
而且，当然，利物浦目前的情况，他们的伤病以及引援方面。
And, of course, where Liverpool are at the moment, the injuries they have and on the recruitment side.
甚至都不是。
Not not even.
我不觉得
I don't
这甚至不一定是因为那个。
think it's even necessarily that.
我不觉得，你知道，如果利物浦阵容齐整的话，我不觉得利物浦
I don't think, you know, with with a full strength team, I don't think Liverpool
他们花了多少钱，里克？
How much money they spent, Rick?
你知道吗？
You know what?
不。
No.
没错。
Exactly.
重建。
Building.
这真的是……
It's a real...
这是……
It's...
我觉得利物浦正在重建。
I think it's a rebuilding at Liverpool.
这需要时间。
It's gonna take time.
我其实觉得他们正在凑齐拼图，你知道的，但这需要很长时间。
I I actually think they're getting the pieces, you know, and it's it's gonna take a lot of time.
你看看维吉尔·范迪克。
You look at Virgil van Dijk.
他还能踢几年？
How many years has he got left?
你买了那个年轻球员，杰基，他会从范迪克身上学到很多东西。
You've bought the youngster, Jacky, who's gonna learn enough Virgil van Dijk.
真的吗？
So Really?
我只是觉得……
I just think...
他看起来
He looks
顺便说一句，他可是个球员。
He's a player, by the way.
他就像一辆劳斯莱斯。
He's a Rolls Royce.
他会是一个非常棒的引援。
He will be a very good sign.
我……
I...
而且，而且，而且我喜欢穆尼奥斯。
And and and I like Munoz.
你知道吗？
You know?
我喜欢右翼。
I like the right wing.
感觉他挺好的。
Feel like he's good.
他确实不错。
He was good.
我喜欢他。
I like him.
你知道吗？
You know?
我喜欢他。
I like him.
他很有韧性。
He's tenacious.
他给奥莱利制造了很多麻烦。
Calls O'Reilly a lot of problems.
他是个好球员。
He's a good player.
所以我看到了很多积极的东西。
So I see a lot of positives.
我知道他们0比3输了，但曼城在对方少一人的情况下也能对任何人做到这一点。
I I understand they lose three nil, but Mancie can do that to anyone with 10 men.
这太难了。
It's so difficult.
而且你……
And you've...
他们板凳上有球员可以换上来。
They've got players that they can bring off the bench.
我没看到太多积极的地方。
I I don't see a lot of positives.
没看到什么积极的地方。
Don't see of positives.
我就想坚持
I just wanna stick
这个。
with this.
是里克。
It's Rick.
是里克。
It's Rick.
我不知道你做了。
I don't I don't knew you did.
我不知道……
I don't...
亚历山大·伊萨克今天去哪儿了？
Where was where was Alexander Isak today?
他是不是
Was he
他受伤了。
He's injured.
我猜他受伤了。
I guess he's injured.
又受伤了，是吗？
Injured again, is he?
好吧。
Alright.
我没办法……
I can't...
不。
No.
我在想。
I'm wondering.
我觉得，在我们提到的三个球员里……
I Of the three players that we...
利物浦花了大价钱买的那几个，是的。
That Liverpool has spent a fortune on Yes.
呃……
E...
伊萨克是我觉得……我……
Isak is the is the one that I think I I...
他可能……可能没事。
He'll he'll probably be be alright.
我看的是维尔茨。
I look I look at Wirtz.
我看看巴克尔，心想，天哪。
I look at Barker, and I think, good god.
维尔茨怎么了？
What's happened to Wirtz?
因为我不喜欢批评球员。
Because I don't like to dig out players.
我从来
I've never
不是那种人。
been one to do.
继续说。
Go on.
我今天在看他比赛。
I'm watching him today.
他天赋异禀。
He's got so much ability.
该射门的时候，他却传球。
And when he should shoot, he passes.
该传球的时候
And when he passes
对。
Yes.
他应该
He should
传球，他却射门。
pass, he shoots.
我就想，拜托。
And I'm like, come on.
这就是决策问题。
It's decision making.
你知道吗？
Do you know what?
就是那个……
It was that...
确实，上半场有一次格雷厄姆·伯奇把球狠狠踢向他，球直接砸在他身上。
There was a ball that was drilled, admittedly, drilled into him by by Graham Birch at one point in the first half.
上半场，他接球时触球太重了。
First half, and he took a heavy touch.
我是说，触球太重，球直接弹开了……
I mean, heavy touch is cut...
就像……
It, like...
球就是弹了一下。
It it it just bounced.
如果是我接那球，我会很失望。
If I took that touch, I'd be disappointed.
就像，它……
Like, it
球弹出去老远了。
it went a mile from...
真的，挺丢人的。
Like, it was embarrassing.
我当时就想，你不是号称小魔术师吗？
I was like, you're supposed to be a sort of little little wizard.
利物浦花的钱
Liverpool spent
跟曼城一样多。
just as much money as Manchester City have.
但他们花得很糟糕。
And they've done it really badly.
好吧，那……
Well, Have it...
而且以前……
And it used...
这其实也就是最近两年才发生的事。
And that's happened just in the last sort of two years, really.
利物浦的引援，是的。
As Liverpool's recruitment Yeah.
以前一直很出色。
Used to be excellent.
他们花了很多钱，但搞砸了，而且他们当时很有野心，还拿了联赛冠军。
They spent a lot of money and got it wrong, and they went for that really ambitious, won the league.
我们打算出击。
We're gonna go out.
我们要去引进最好的……
We're gonna go and get the the best set...
英超最好的中锋之一，亚历山大·伊萨克。
One of the best center forwards in the Premier League in Alexander Isak.
我们要去引进德国最好的球员。
We're gonna go out and get the best player in Germany.
不过，这笔签约可能还是会成功的。
Might still work out that signing to be fair.
如果他不想待在那儿呢？
What if he's you don't want it
但事实就是这样。
to, but it does.
没人知道他会怎样。
He's No one knows it.
如果他留在那里，
If he stays there,
那就会变成一笔非常好的签约。
that would turn into a very good signing.
因为他赛季初进球状态不错。
Because he started the season well with his goals.
这是个很大的假设。
It's a big if.
对他来说，这是个很大的假设。
It's a big if with him.
维茨，我不知道。
Verts, I don't know.
巴尔科拉还太早。
Barcola is too soon.
我猜，我猜。
I I I guess.
你还没法评价巴尔科拉。
You can't judge Barcola yet.
只是让你知道，
Just to get
哥们。
you to know, mate.
是这样，但我正在……
It it is, but I'm I'm re...
我挺担心的。
I'm worried.
好的。
Okay.
我知道你……
I know you're...
我理解你看了他们三四场比赛后会担心，但我觉得，是的，现在评判他还太早了。
I can understand why you're worried after the three or four games we see them in, but I think it's, yeah, it's way too early to judge him.
我确实觉得他有潜力，但我理解你为什么会担心，因为你今天看了比赛，心里想，拜托。
I do think he's got the potential, but I understand why you're worried because you're watching it today and you're thinking, come on.
你可是大牌球队。
You're the big side.
想象一下花那么多钱买一个潜力股。
Imagine spending that amount of money on potential.
我知道。
I know.
这太疯狂了。
It's crazy.
这，这太疯狂了。
It's It's crazy.
好的。
Okay.
咱们来聊聊那些没那么复杂的足球比赛吧。
Let's let's talk about some some football where it's a bit less complicated.
今天早些时候的比赛进了很多球。
Lot of goals in the games earlier on the day.
赫尔城又拿了一分。
Another point on the board for Hull.
和埃弗顿打成了2比2平。
Two all draw with Everton.
埃弗顿也保持不败。
Everton also unbeaten.
奥利弗·格拉斯纳回到塞尔赫斯特公园球场，结果输了。
Oliver Glasner lost on his return to Selhurst Park.
他的老东家水晶宫在先失一球的情况下，逆转击败了他的新东家诺丁汉森林，比分是三比一。
His old side, Crystal Palace, came from behind to beat his new side, Nottingham Forest, three one.
说实话，如果你看了这场比赛的前四十分钟，森林队完全把水晶宫压着打。
And, honestly, if you watched the the first sort of forty minutes of this game, Forest absolutely battered Palace.
森林队真的踢得很好。
Like, Forest were really good.
那他们最后怎么会输了呢？
So how they ended up losing?
而且，其实，那次利亚姆·德拉普的扑救，或者说，我觉得应该说是失误，就是那个时刻……
And and, actually, there's that there's that save slash, I guess, you gotta say miss from Liam Delap when
他们赢得了那个精彩瞬间。
they won the brilliant moment.
那真是个精彩的瞬间。
It's a brilliant moment.
这确实是个好时刻。
It is it is a good moment.
但他们……
But they...
我是说，他们……
I mean, they...
森林队本应该领先的。
Forest Forest should have been clear.
结果最后他们差点输得比一比三还惨。
And then actually ended up that they could've they could've lost by more than three one.
但是……
But...
我们能先停一下，说说德拉普那次错失的机会吗？
Can we just pause on the Delap miss?
因为，对。
Because Yes.
就像，他有机会……
It's like, he's got...
我是说，他本来可以轻松推射入网的，对。
I mean, he could just stroke it in Yeah.
两边都可以。
Either side.
但他冲上去，心里想，你知道吗？
But he comes at it, and he goes, do you know what?
我要把球网都打穿。
I'm gonna I'm gonna take the net off it.
我要彻底……
I'm gonna absolutely...
我要踢得漂亮。
I'm gonna do this in style.
他脑子里想的是，我要大力抽射，把这球轰进去。
It's what he thought in his head is, I'm gonna emphatically smash this ball home.
然后他放...
And he puts...
他直接把球踢到了守门员脸上。
He kicks it straight into the goalkeeper's face.
他应该打你的方向。
He should've hit your rate.
他甚至没让
He didn't even let
球弹起来。
the ball bounce.
他只是用脚侧把球踢进了底部。
He just side footed it into the bottom.
球可能会滚到
It could go on
边上。
the side.
克林顿，那里有很多选择。
There's a lot of options there, Clinton.
听着。
Listen.
很多选择。
A lot of options.
确实很多。
There is a lot.
但我要说一件事，我看了一场比赛，看的时候我在家里捶沙发，因为水晶宫上半场前半小时的防守简直太糟糕了。
But one thing I will say, I was watching a game, and I was punching the cushions in my house when I was watching it because Palace were absolutely defending in the first half an hour terrible.
你说得对。
You're right.
他们本该被淘汰的，森林队。
They should have been outside, Forest.
森林队本该领先大约
Forest should have been about
森林队表现不错。
Forest were good.
我的意思是，水晶宫踢得不好，但森林队确实不错。
I mean, Palace were bad, but Forest were good.
森林队确实不错。
Forest were good.
森林队确实不错。
Forest were good.
森林队的球迷肯定会摸不着头脑，心想我们怎么就以1比3输掉了这场比赛？
Forest fans will be scratching their head thinking, how have we come away losing this game three one?
因为我，我不太……
Because I I don't...
听我说。
Listen.
水晶宫下半场确实有所改善。
Palace improved in the second half for sure.
但你知道吗？
But you know what?
我还想说，水晶宫的第二粒进球，我觉得有点……
I would say as well, still Palace's second goal, I think there's a slight...
而且我是水晶宫的忠实球迷。
And I'm a big Palace man.
你知道的吧？
You know that?
嗯……
Hambu.
因为我觉得，是的。
Because I think Yeah.
他进去的时候球打到了哈利利的胳膊上。
Hits onto Khalili's arm when he goes in.
而且你知道吗？
And you know what?
不过，我当然很高兴这个进球算数了。
But I'm happy that the goal stood, obviously.
但如果我是……
But if I was a...
如果这球是对着水晶宫判的，比如，
If it went against Palace, like,
如果你是森林队的球迷，对，
if you're if you're Forest Yeah.
就是那个尼科·威廉姆斯对汉尼拔的进球没算，你还记得吧。
The the the memory of the Nico Williams goal that wasn't given for Hannibal.
因为那个球我看了多少遍。
Because like how many times I watched that.
我都看不出来。
I can't see it.
而这个球，看起来确实像触地得分，却算进了。
Versus this goal getting given when it does appear a touchdown.
我就觉得，那真是……
I'm just like, that's...
我，我……
I I...
那真的会让人抓狂。
That would drive you out the wall.
你会气疯的。
You'd be fuming.
你肯定会气疯的。
You would be fuming.
因为就像我说的，作为一个……
Because as I said, being a...
我很高兴因为水晶宫赢了，但我能理解为什么森林队的球迷会觉得委屈，因为那个东西让比赛变得太
I'm happy because Palace got a win, but I can understand why Forest fans would feel aggrieved because that thing makes it too
过火了。好在马里纳基斯先生对VAR的错误通常都能泰然处之。
much good thing is that mister Maranakis tends to take VAR mistakes in his stride.
就像，他其实挺放松的。
Like, he's he's really relaxed
对这件事。
about it.
挺好的。
Favorite.
所以我们可能不会再听到更多关于这件事的消息了。
So we probably won't hear anything anything more about it.
那么，克林顿，你怎么看大家对格拉斯纳的反应？
Well, Clinton, what did you make of the the reaction to Glasner?
因为我……
Because I...
你知道，我做了这个。
You know I did this.
我一开始打开电视，就像，想想银牌什么的。
I switched on the start to, like, think silver.
我想看他的吐槽，结果他得到了全场起立鼓掌。
I wanna I wanna I wanna see his rant, and he just got a standing ovation.
而且气氛特别温馨、特别友好。
And it was it was all warm and cuddly and nice.
其实没那么热烈。
It's not quite really hot.
然后他……
And then he...
后来早上还有一点小插曲。
There was a bit of sacks in the morning later on.
但是……
But...
挺好的。
It was good.
不错。
It's good.
但那只是，怎么说呢，友好的调侃而已。
But that was just a bit of, like, friendly ban.
比如，他是帕利斯历史上最出色的主教练。
Like, he's been Palace's best ever manager.
他给这家足球俱乐部带来了三座奖杯。
He's bought three trophies to the football club.
所以你不能……
So you can't...
我不明白为什么你们要嘘他……
I don't understand why you would want to boo...
为什么要嘘他。
Would wanna boo him.
他一直都做得很好。
He's been very good.
现在他去了诺丁汉森林，你只能祝他一切顺利。
And now he's moved on to Nottingham Forest, and you wish him all the best.
但你们拿到了三分，然后把他送回了高速公路上，他们确实这么做了。
But you take the three points, and you send him back up the motorway, which they've done.
不过他们确实给了他热烈的掌声，他值得这份掌声。
But they did give him a good round of applause, though, and he deserved that.
而且我觉得他在森林队也会成功的。
And I think he will be a success at Forest as well.
关于利亚姆·德拉普那件事，你有没有遇到过那种情况？对。
On on the Liam Delap thing, did did you ever find yourself in a situation Yeah.
克林顿，就是你曾经在船上那种情况。
Clinton where you've had over the boat.
进球比故意射失更容易。
It's easier to score than it is to to conspire to miss it.
而且你刚刚……我甚至不会坐在这里否认。
And you've just I'm not even gonna sit here and deny it to you.
我是说，对。
I'm Yeah.
有时候是不是太着急了，
There's been times where Is it just rush your
血都冲到头上了？
blood to the head?
就像你那样……
You're like...
但是……
But...
不。
No.
但我以前也遇到过这种情况，但我没有像他那样踢飞。
But what I've done, I've had that before, but I've not blazed it like him.
我有时候会等球到侧面再打，但我是在球到侧面顶部的时候放弃了，结果球飞过了横梁。
I've waited sometimes to side for it, but I've quit on the top of the side for it, and it's gone over the bar.
那是一次很糟糕的失误。
It's a bad miss.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
他会……
He'll gonna...
作为中锋，你会在接下来的
As a center forward, you replay that for the next
一周左右反复回想那个球，直到下一场比赛，直到你……
Week or so until the next game until you...
或者直到你进了下一个球，因为那球一直萦绕在你脑海里。
Or until you get your next goal because it's in the back of your mind.
因为如果森林队再进两个球，那我觉得比赛就结束了。
Because if Forest goal two new up then, I think it's game over then.
水晶宫很难再追回来了。
It's difficult for Palace to get back into that game.
所以，是的，他他……
So, yeah, he he...
这对利亚姆·德拉普来说会是毁灭性的打击，而且对他来说，这个下午也让人沮丧。
It'll be devastating, Liam Delap, and it was a frustrating afternoon for him.
我希望他在森林队能成功，因为他在切尔西的那段日子很艰难。
I I want him to be a success at Forest because because of the difficult time he had at Chelsea.
而且他
And he's
他需要一点信心。
he needs a bit of confidence.
我觉得他需要一点关爱。
He needs a bit of love, I think.
他有过一段……
He had a...
正如克林顿所说，他在切尔西的日子不好过。
As Clinton said, he had a rough time at Chelsea.
对他来说并不顺利。
Didn't work out for him.
我只想说，这可能是本赛季门将用脸扑救的最佳表现。
I just want to say that would be the best save by a goalkeeper's face this season.
这绝对是……
That that is...
不会有门将能做出比这更好的脸扑救了。
A goalkeeper will not pull off a better face save.
我确实喜欢一个
I do like a
你知道吗，里克？
You know what, Rick?
卢克？
Luke?
我要冒个险
I'm gonna put my neck
现在就把话说在前面。
on the line now.
我觉得他会好起来的，森林队。
I think he'll come good up, Forest.
我觉得因为他现在是核心球员，每周都上场，而且他有个好教练格拉斯纳。
I think because he's the main man and plays week in, week out, and he's got a good manager in Glasner.
我觉得他会好起来的。
I think he will come good.
他只需要掌控比赛节奏。
He just needs to run the game.
我希望
I'd like
他能这样，因为，对。
him to because Yeah.
你知道，他以前……
You know, he he was before...
基本上，在他去切尔西之前，在伊普斯维奇的时候。
Basically, before he went to Chelsea, Ipswich.
人们当时都...
People were
他有过一个非常好的...
He had one really good...
我们在伊普斯维奇有过一个非常好的赛季。
We had one really good season at Ipswich.
嗯，你知道吗？
Well, you know what?
也许有点犹豫。
Maybe a bit hesitant.
不。
No.
我知道。
I know.
我，我知道。
I I know.
但是接下来是谁呢？
But Who is next?
他是一个年轻的前锋，只有一个赛季表现好。
He's a young striker on one good season.
你会想，好吧。
You you think, okay.
他可以在此基础上继续进步。
He can build on this.
是的，而且他是个年轻的英格兰前锋，大家都在想谁会接替哈里·凯恩。
And, yeah, and he's a young English striker, and everyone's thinking who's gonna replace Harry Kane.
因为你想一想，下一个能接替哈里·凯恩的英格兰前锋是谁？
Because if you think about it, who's the next English striker that can replace Harry Kane?
没有年轻球员能接替他，真是奇怪。
There's not a youngster coming for his dude betting
他确实很奇怪。
him weirdly.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
他确实该下注。
He's due betting.
你说得对。
You're right.
他是个伪九号。
He's a false number man.
你说得
You're
里克这里有点战术知识。
Little little bit of tactical knowledge there from Rick.
裘德打伪九号。
Jude in the false nine.
谢谢。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Thank you.
太喜欢了。
Love it.
他功课做得很足。
He's done his homework.
我们现在要聊聊昨天最精彩的比赛，包括热刺在曼联主场最后时刻扳平，还有切尔西的大胜。
We're gonna talk the the best of yesterday's action at the moment, including Spurs' late draw at Manchester United and Chelsea's big win.
不过先来一个中场休息的小问题，这个简直太简单了。
But first, here's your here's your halftime teaser, and this is an absolute gimme.
我都不知道……
I cannot...
这太容易了。
This is so easy.
卢克·爱德华兹。
Luke Edwards.
我有点不爽。
I'm annoyed.
在切尔西5比1大胜伯恩茅斯的比赛中，乔丹·亨德森梅开二度并有一次助攻。
In Chelsea's five one victory over Bournemouth, Jordan Henderson scored twice assisted once.
他36岁，是自2022年一位37岁球员做到这一点以来，在英超单场比赛中直接参与三球的最年长球员。
At 36 years old, he's the oldest player to be directly involved in three goals in a Premier League game since the 37 year old did it in 2022.
但那位37岁的球员是谁呢？
But who was that 37 year old?
我们马上回来。
We're back in a sec.
我是韦恩·鲁尼。
Wayne Rooney here.
如果你想听更多我的内容，今天就去BBC Sounds上的韦恩·鲁尼秀，听听我和布鲁诺·费尔南德斯、乔丹·皮克福德等人的聊天，还有更衣室里更多的故事。
If you want to hear more from me, head over to the Wayne Rooney show on BBC Sounds today to listen back to chat I had with the likes of Bruno Fernandes and Jordan Pickford, and plenty more stories from the dressing room.
在我看你们踢了那么多场比赛、关注这家俱乐部那么久之后，能来到这家俱乐部本身就已经是梦想成真，一种荣幸。
Before I saw you guys playing so many times and I was following the club for so long, just coming to the club was already a dream come true, a privilege.
我从没想过或梦到过能成为这家俱乐部的队长。
Never thought or dreamed about being the captain of the club.
我只是想为它踢球。
I just wanted to play for it.
葡萄牙给了我足球生涯中最糟糕的两个夜晚。
Portugal have given me me two worst nights of football.
在BBC Sounds上搜索Wayne Rooney秀，现在订阅。
Search the Wayne Rooney show on BBC Sounds and subscribe now.
这样，当我的新系列《你能打败Wayne Rooney吗》上线时，你就能第一时间收到每一集。
That way, when my new series, can you beat Wayne Rooney, comes out, you'll be the first to get every episode as soon as they're released.
在《足球日报》播客上，瑞克·爱德华兹主持的英超回顾。
On the Football Daily Podcast, Premier League review with Rick Edwards.
欢迎回到《足球日报》的英超回顾。
Welcome back to the Premier League review on the football day.
休息之前，我给你们出了我们最简单的中场休息小测验。
Before the break, I gave you the easiest halftime teaser we've had.
36岁的乔丹·亨德森昨天为切尔西进了两球，还助攻了一次。
36 year old Jordan Henderson scored twice, assisted once for Chelsea yesterday.
他是自2022年一位37岁球员以来，在英超单场比赛中直接参与三球的最年长球员。
Oldest player to be directly involved in three goals in a Premier League game since a 37 year old did it in 2022.
你能说出那位37岁的球员是谁吗？
Can you name that 37 year old?
我不想让你答对，卢克，所以我问克林顿。
I don't I don't want you to get this right, Luke, so I'm gonna go to Clinton.
克林顿。
Clinton.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
我的脑子……
My mind...
你说这很简单。
You said it's easy.
这就像……
This is like...
在我看来，这简直不能再简单了。
It's it's almost couldn't be easier, in my opinion.
他现在退役了吗？
Is he retired now?
没有。
No.
嗯，没有。
Well, no.
他还没退役。
He's not.
这应该能给你提示了。
That that should tell you.
那他今年多大了？
So how old is he now?
他肯定有
He must be
2022年的时候37岁。
37 in 2022.
四十、四十、四十一。
Forty forty forty one.
不是吧
Not So
41。
41.
他41岁。
He's 41.
一。
One.
而且他还没退休。
And he's He's not retired.
哦，罗纳尔多。
Oh, Ronaldo.
罗纳尔多。
Ronaldo.
我说了别回答。
I'd said don't answer.
好吧，我现在已经回答了。
Well, I've answered now.
你也没有吗？
Did you not have it either?
没有。
No.
我有。
I had it.
我一直都有，里克。
Had it all along, Rick.
你知道，你确实说了。
You know, you did.
我
I'm
真的很烦，因为我还跟你聊了这么久。
so annoyed that I've talked to you through the age as well.
我简直不敢相信罗纳尔多……
I can't believe Ronaldo's...
他那时候在英超吗？
Was he in the Premier League at the...
在那一年？
In that year?
我简直……对。
I can't Yeah.
他那时候年纪很大了。
He's on ages.
所以就是这样。
That's why.
他对诺维奇进了一个球。
He scored a contract against Norwich.
哦，它回来了。
Oh, it came back.
我的屏幕空白了。
My point went blank.
所以就是这样。
That's why.
它
It
确实回来了。
did come back.
我和滕哈赫相处得很愉快。
And I had a lovely time with Eric Ten Hag.
我觉得
Think
那真是出奇的简单。
that's that's staggeringly easy.
那我们来说说曼联吧。
Let's talk about Manchester United then.
多米尼克·索兰克的一个迟来的进球让热刺扳回了一分。
A late Dominic Solanke goal saw Spurs rescue a point.
我觉得在老特拉福德拿到这一分是应得的。
I I think a deserved point at Old Trafford.
不过这一分对热刺或者曼联来说都没有太大的帮助。
Not a point that massively helps either Spurs or or United.
而且你知道，曼联球迷在终场时的嘘声，其实挺能说明问题的。
And, you know, the the the booing at full time from the United fans kind of, you know, tells tells a story, really.
就像
Like
确实如此。
It does.
我觉得这对热刺来说是个好得多的结果。
I I think it's a far better point for Tottenham.
好得多的结果。
Far better point.
因为他们是客场作战。
Because they're away from home.
他们少打一人，但……
They're down to 10 men, and the But they're...
我的意思是，他们客场表现没那么差。
I mean, they're they're not as bad away from home.
而且他们踢得更好。
And, they were they were the better team.
嗯，是的。
Well, yes.
所以这是一个更好的结果。
So it's a better point.
我是说，这比那个点球的表现要好。
I mean, it was a better performance than with the penalty.
如果你表现更好却只拿到一分，难道不失望吗？
If you're if you're the better team and you only get a point, aren't you disappointed?
嗯，是的，他们本来可能会输。
Well, yeah, they could have lost.
他们在补时阶段还0比1落后，是的。
They were one nil down in stoppage time Yeah.
而且只有10个人。
With 10 men.
好吧。
Alright.
好吧。
Alright.
而波尔那张脸也是他应得的。
And poor deserved his face.
我是说，他在场边可是受尽了煎熬。
I mean, he was going through the ringer on the touchline.
我觉得，热刺……
I mean, I thought Tottenham...
我说过热刺最终会没事的。
I said Tottenham would be okay eventually.
我说过。
I did.
我确实说过。
I have said that.
嗯，我
Well, I
觉得如果你看了那场比赛，有很多证据表明他们
think if you watch that game, there's a lot of evidence that suggests they
他们会没事的。
will be okay.
他们表现不错。
They were good.
他们错过了很多机会。
They missed so many chances.
而且他们把曼联打得团团转。
And they ran all over Manchester United.
他们看起来速度很快。
They look like they got speed.
他们体能充沛。
They got legs.
他们运动能力很强。
They got athleticism.
这些都是作为一支顶级球队所需要的。
All the things that you needed as a Zerbe team.
他们可能需要一个能稳定进球的人。
They probably need someone to put the ball in the back of the net regularly.
我觉得这是最明显的短板，任何球队，不管什么级别，如果没有一个能把球送进网里的人，这总是个大问题。
I think that is the the major glaring weakness, which is always a major glaring weakness in any team at any level that doesn't have someone to put on the back of the net.
但我觉得他们表现得非常好。
But I thought they were really good.
我觉得这可能是他们本赛季最好的一场表现。
I think it was it was probably their best performance
本赛季。
Of the season.
而且他们要去西班牙，对吧，去一个温暖的河边训练营，其实就是变相的团队建设。
And they're going away to Spain, aren't they, on a on a warm river training camp, which is a euphemism for team bonding.
我记得他们在马贝拉。
I believe they're in Marbella.
和……一起去的。
Going away with...
这周。
This week.
这周。
This week.
他们下周末不是有比赛吗？
Have they not got a game next weekend?
这个……
This...
克林顿，这确实不太常规，但罗伯托要带他们去马贝拉。
It's unconventional, Clinton, but Roberto is taking them away to Marbella.
米歇尔还在踢球。
Michelle was still playing.
有点小冲突。
Little tear up.
有点小冲突。
Little tear up.
我觉得他们可能周一、周二休息。
I reckon they might have Monday, Tuesday off.
不。
No.
不。
No.
我觉得热刺踢得不错，而且我认为这更积极。
I thought Tottenham are good, and I think that that's far more positive.
说句正经的，我觉得这对他们来说比曼联更积极，曼联踢得真的很平庸。
To make the serious point, think it's far more positive for them than Manchester United who I fought were really pedestrian
而且就是
and just
缺乏活力，节奏慢。
lackluster and slow.
而且他们看起来一点速度都没有。
And they don't look like they've got any speed.
他们看起来没什么体力了。
They don't look like they've got any legs.
我不太清楚现在的计划是什么。
I'm not entirely sure what the plan is at the moment.
而且我……
And I...
我觉得他们……
I thought they were
但为什么？
But why?
因为上赛季末他们开始表现不错。
Because they they were starting to look good at the end of last season.
而且唯一的变化就是卡塞米罗。
And the only the only thing that's changed is is Casimiro.
我真搞不懂。
I don't get it.
临时教练，而且是临时教练。
Interim And interim manager.
桑托斯主席。
Chairman's Santos.
临时教练转正了。
Interim manager got the permanent job.
这就是变化所在。
That's what changed.
兄弟，这……
Dude, it's...
我看着呢，我在想中锋是个问题。
I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking center forward's a problem.
我知道因布雷莫之前踢中路还进了球，但切斯科现在显然受伤了。
I know Imbremo was playing through the middle and he scored, but Cesco's obviously injured at the moment.
他能成为那个为你进球的九号吗？
Is he gonna be that number nine who can get you the goals?
嗯，我不觉得
Well, I don't
迈克尔·卡里克看重他。
think Michael Carrick rates him.
你看吧。
There you go.
不。
No.
所以……
So...
因为这就是为什么他一直让库尼亚打中路，拉什福德打左路，但他们踢得很挣扎。
Because that's why he's been playing Cunha through the middle and Rashford on the left hand side, but they struggle.
就连防守端，他们也很吃力。
Even defensively, they're struggling.
热刺，热刺会感到失望。
Tottenham Tottenham be disappointed.
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