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但与此同时，你知道，他几乎从不缺席集训，而这次错过这四场比赛，我觉得有几件事值得注意。

But at the same time, you know, he hardly ever misses a camp, and to miss these four matches, I think a couple of things.

我觉得他不可能没注意到亚历克斯·斯科特在他位置上的表现，而且，我觉得看到队长袖标经常从哈里·凯恩传到裘德·贝林厄姆手上，这很可能让德克兰·赖斯有所思考，因为在那之前，赖斯可能是下一个接任队长的人选。

I think he cannot have missed the performance from Alex Scott in his position, and and also, I think, seeing the captain's armband go from Harry Kane to Jude Bellingham regularly, I think that will probably have made Declan Rice think because before that, Rice was probably the next in line to get the armband.

所以，你知道，我觉得这……

So, you know, I think it...

这一切都营造了健康的竞争氛围。

It's all creates healthy competition.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

我觉得托马斯·图赫尔会对此感到非常高兴。

I think Thomas Duke will be delighted with this.

我觉得当德克兰·赖斯下次加入英格兰队时，他会更有斗志，而且我觉得斗志从来不是人们会指责他缺乏的东西。

I think when when Declan Rice next joins up with England, he will have extra hunger, and I don't think hunger is anything that that people ever accuse him of lacking.

不过，是的，这让他保持警觉。

But, yeah, it keeps him on his toes.

但正如约翰所说，他积累了很多资本。

But as John says, he's got so much in the bank.

近年来，在几届大赛中，他一直是英格兰队表现非常出色的球员。

He's he's been a phenomenal player for England over over recent years, over recent campaigns.

我觉得他的灵活性在于他能带球向前推进。

I think his his flexibility that he can he can bring the ball forward.

他也能站在后卫前面防守。

He can sit in front of the defenders.

你知道，他一直会是球队的重要资产，而且有竞争是件好事。

You know, he will always be a strong asset, and yet to to have a competition is a very healthy thing.

亚历克斯·斯科特也值得称赞。

And fair play to Alex Scott.

其实挺可惜的。

It's actually a shame.

我真希望亚历克斯·斯科特现在能直接回到英超，看看他在英格兰队表现这么好、信心大增之后，会如何继续进步。

I, you know, I I really wish Alex Scott was bouncing straight back into the Premier League now and and see how he will push on from what must be a confidence boost of playing so well for England.

不过，当然，他会缺阵几个月。

But, of course, he's gonna be out for a couple of months.

所以对他来说，这个时机确实有点可惜。

So that is that is a shame of timing for him.

但这恰恰说明，托马斯·图赫尔有更多选择，因为谁知道呢？

But it just shows, you know, for for Thomas Tuchel to have options because who knows?

总有一天，德克兰·赖斯自己也可能因为伤病而无法参加关键比赛。

There'll there'll come a time when when Declan Rice might not be available for a really important game due to injury himself.

约翰，这个问题你来回答，是斯科特·温思罗普问的。

You can answer this one, John, from Scott Winthrop.

他是普尔镇FC的球迷。

He's a Poole Town FC fan.

嗨，TCV。

Hi, TCV.

我很喜欢这个播客，每一期都听得很开心。

I love the podcast, and I've enjoyed listening to every single one.

1971年，泰德·麦克杜格尔在足总杯比赛中为AFC伯恩茅斯对阵马盖特时打进了九个球。

Ted McDougall scored nine goals for AFC Bournemouth against Margates in an FA Cup match in 1971.

那么，进九个球是不是可以叫“麦克杜格尔”呢？

So would scoring nine be called a McDougall?

还有，约翰，这个问题你也可以回答。

Also, and you can answer this one, John.

他已经开始笑了。

He's smiling already.

为什么你叫马克·查普曼为“野兔查普曼”？

Why do you refer to Mark Chapman as Hare Chapman?

继续加油，伙计们，谢谢你们。

Keep up the great work, guys, and thank you.

此致敬意，斯科特。

Kind regards, Scott.

嗯，首先，我觉得...

Well, firstly, I think the...

这个提议真不错，麦克杜格尔那个。

That's a great shout, the McDougall.

我挺喜欢的。

I do like that.

一晚上能进九个球，那真是麦克杜格尔式的表现。

It's a McDougall for a for a night.

至于我们有没有机会说“那是麦克杜格尔”，那就是另一回事了，康纳。

Whether we'll ever whether we'll ever, ever be in a position where we're able to say, well, that's a McDougall is another matter, Conor.

说句题外话，抱歉我总是这么较真，但跟约翰·默里在一起就让我忍不住这样。他不是唯一一个单场进九球的球员。

Point point of order, and I'm sorry to always be a stickler for the rules, but but being in John Murray's company brings this out to me is he's not the only player who scored nine goals in a game.

我知道埃尔林·哈兰德代表挪威时也曾经单场进过九球。

I know that Erling Holland for for Norway once scored nine goals in a game.

所以，你知道，你不能就这么……

So, you know, you can't you can't sort of...

代表挪威，20岁那年。

For Norway 20.

哦，是吗？

Oh, did he?

这样行吗？

Is that alright?

嗯，这可难住我了。

Well, got me.

你现在是在考我啊。

You're putting me on the spot now.

我百分之九十九点九确定，九是关键数字。

I'm I'm 99.9% sure, nine being the relevant number.

但我很确定，几年前哈兰德单场进九球是个大新闻。

But I'm pretty sure that was a big story a few years back when Hull had scored nine goals.

他们好像赢了12比0什么的。

They won 12 nil or something.

记录是多少来着？

What was the record again?

那个纪录是关于什么的？

What was the record for?

是那个新西兰球员吗？

Was it the New Zealand player?

你还记得这个吗？

Do you remember this?

听起来没错。

This sounds right.

他是不是叫阿奇什么的？

Is he Archie somebody?

你还记得吗？

Do you remember?

而且那是在一场国际比赛里进了大概12或13个球，对手好像是西萨摩亚之类的。

And it was it was about 12 or 13 goals in an international against somebody like Western Samoa.

萨摩亚。

Samoa.

我正想说是个岛，太平洋的岛。

Was gonna say an island, Pacific Island.

记不清了。

Can't remember.

西萨摩亚。

Western Samoa.

总之呢。

So anyway.

我们是不是在回避主要话题？

As Stop we dodging the main stuff.

对，主要故事。

Yes, the main story.

其实我之前回答过这个问题。

Actually have answered this before.

我们早期就被问过这个。

We have been asked this before in the early days.

这是在2024年欧洲杯之后，我们在德国的时候，我们经常叫他‘野兔查普曼’。

This was off the back of Euro twenty twenty four when we were in Germany, and we would all often refer to him as Hare Chapman.

当时觉得这个称呼挺贴切的。

And there was something that felt quite appropriate about that.

我猜他知道我们叫他‘野兔查普曼’吧。

Presume he knows that we call him Hare Chapman.

我觉得他知道，因为他听得特别认真。

I would have thought so since he since he listens assiduously.

他声称自己不知道。

He claimed he claims that he doesn't.

我觉得他假装成青少年给我们写信，就是为了打听这个。

I think he sends in correspondence pretending to be a teenager just to get that out.

也许他其实就是我们其中一个听众，你知道，他说我们只有三个人给我们发邮件，而且他们轮流发。

Maybe he's actually one of our, you know, he he reckons we have only three people who send in emails to us, and they just rotate.

也许他其实就是其中之一。

Maybe he's actually one of them.

也许他就是那个来自普尔镇FC的球迷斯科特，因为他想知道你为什么叫他“野兔查普曼”，而这是你唯一能礼貌地问出来的方式。

Maybe he's Scott from the Poole Town FC fan because he was so why you call him her Chapman, and this is the only way you can politely find out.

我非常怀疑这一点。

I doubt that very much.

莱尼，他是埃塞克斯一个非常开心的西汉姆球迷。

Lenny, who's a very happy Hammers fan in Essex.

亲爱的TCB伙计们，我真的很喜欢听TCB播客和你们在5 Live上的解说。

Dear TCB chaps, I really enjoy listening to the TCB podcast and your commentary on 5 Live.

谢谢你，莱尼。

Thank you, Lenny.

约翰，我注意到你是个狂热的读者，你在封锁期间开始了一个读书俱乐部。

I noticed, John, that you are an avid reader, and you started a book club or a book club in lockdown.

我也是个狂热的读者，我非常喜欢一边听丹诺周六的精彩解说和约翰周日的重大比赛，一边阅读。

I too am an avid reader, and I really enjoy reading whilst listening to the excellent commentary by Deno on a Saturday and John's big match on a Sunday.

请问，能不能成立一个TCB读书俱乐部，这样其他可能和我一样的听众就能得到一些好的推荐了？

Would it be possible, please, to start a TCB book club so other listeners who perhaps do the same as I have some decent recommendations going forward?

你现在在读什么书？

What are you reading at the moment?

嗯，我想那是一个

Well, I suppose that's one

你想不想开一个

Do you want to start a

读书会？

book club?

嗯，我完全...

Well, I'm all...

正如莱尼所说，我已经参加了一个读书会，我应付不过来参加更多的读书会。

As Lenny has pointed out, I'm already in one, and I I can't cope with more than being in more than one book club.

我想我们可以...

I suppose we could...

可以有一些推荐。

There could be suggestions.

我们可以每周推荐一本书，比如从听众那里收集建议。

We could have a a book suggestion of the week perhaps, something like that from the from the listeners.

那这些书会分成第一级别和第二级别吗？

And would these would these be like div one books and div two books?

第二级别。

Div two.

具体来说，还有其他类别吗？

Specifically and other

我跟你说。

I'll tell you what.

我们可以有一个足球相关的建议，还有一个足球相关的建议。

We could have one football suggestion and one one football suggestion.

我喜欢这个主意。

I like that.

德诺，你参加过读书会吗？

Have you ever been in a book club, Deno?

我参加过读书俱乐部吗？

Have I ever been in a book club?

没有。

No.

没有。

No.

不过最近，上周我待在家里的时候，我读完了WT·德莱尼写的一套书，写得非常好。

Although at the minute, when I went to ground last week, I'm currently I've completed set of books from WT Delaney, who was very good.

我现在正在读一套书。

And I'm A set of reading.

他出版了一套三部曲。

He's he's brought out a trilogy of books.

是关于什么的？

They about?

是关于间谍世界的，我们打算聊聊这个。

It's in about the spy world And we're gonna cover.

我挺喜欢那个的。

I quite like I quite like that.

类似的主题，我现在在读大卫·麦克洛斯基三部曲的一部分，《莫斯科X》和《第七层》。

On a similar theme, I'm now reading part of a trilogy from David McCloskey, Moscow x and the seventh floor.

所以你喜欢间谍题材的东西，对吧？

So You you like your spy stuff, don't you?

我

I

是的。

do.

我觉得你不能……

I I think you can't be...

顺便说一句，我觉得丹纳可能是个间谍。

I think Denner could be a spy, by the way.

想想如果你……如果你……如果你拿一个

Think if you if you if you took a

是吗？

Did he?

你看看你自己。

If you would just look at you.

他在欧洲到处跑，穿梭于各个城市之间，从来不会在一个地方待太久。

He travels around Europe, he's in and out of cities, he's only never stays too long.

你知道吗，我都能想象他递出一个小信封，然后拿回一个电脑芯片之类的东西，再回去向M或Q汇报。

You know, I could just imagine him handing over a little envelope and receiving a little maybe computer chip back or something and then reporting back to M or Q or whoever it is.

对，我能想象得到。

Yeah, I could see that.

不是有个好笑的故事吗？说很多年前你和利兹一起想进土耳其，结果被拦下来，进行了一次非常彻底的搜查。

Wasn't there a funny story about you trying to get into Turkey one time years ago with Leeds, and then they pulled you over for a rather in-depth search?

是的。

Yes.

确实有。

There was.

我我我演过……

I I I had played a...

嗯，就回答一下当间谍这事儿。

Well, just to answer being a a spy.

要当间谍，你得是个不起眼的人。

To be a spy, you've gotta be a gray man.

你得融入人群。

You've gotta blend in.

我觉得我不一定能融入。

And I don't think necessarily that I could blend in.

我想大个子说的可能就是这事儿。

I think that's possibly what the big man was referring to.

但九十年代末到两千年代初，利兹联有个新闻官，叫迪克·赖特，他已经不在了。

But there used to be the press officer at Leeds United in the late nineties and early two thousands, a guy called Dick Wright who is no longer with us.

我当时对迪克搞了个恶作剧。

And I'd played a wind up on, on Dick.

为了报复我，他基本上让我在伊斯坦布尔机场被逮捕了。

And to get to get me back, he basically got me arrested at Istanbul Airport.

所以我们和球队一起旅行，我和彼得·洛里默以及西约克郡警方的观察员在一起，他们以前也会在比赛前提前出发。

So we traveled with the team, and I was with, Peter Lorimer and the West Yorkshire Police spotters who used to also go out ahead of the game.

他们大约有四个人。

There was about four of them.

其中有一个叫斯坦的小伙子特别突出。

There was there was one lad in particular called Stan.

他说，哦，他说，伊恩、彼得，你们能去护照检查口，大概是20号，在最远的那一头。

And he said, oh, he he said, Ian, Peter, can you go to to passport control gate, whatever it was, 20, right at the far end.

所以我走到了最远的那一头，心里想，天哪，这路可真远。

So I went right at the far end, and I'm thinking, bloody hell, this is a long trek.

我走过去，把护照递给那个人，他看看护照，看看我，又看看护照，再抬头看我。

So I walked through, and I had my passport over to the guy, and he looks at it, looks at me, looks back at the passport, again looks up.

我开始有点不耐烦了。

And I was getting a little bit agitated.

我就问，有什么问题吗？

And I said, is there a problem?

因为其他人都直接过去了。

Because everyone else had just gone straight through.

他说，有。

And he said, yes.

他说，你在我们的名单上，是个足球流氓。

He said, you are a hooligan on our list.

我说，你说什么？

I went, I beg your pardon?

结果，还没等我反应过来，他就吹了哨子。

Anyway, before I knew it, he's blown his whistle.

他们让我通过护照检查，结果我被十个警察围住了。

They've asked they've asked me to go through passport control, and I am surrounded by 10 police officers.

我就说，什么……

And I said, what...

这是怎么回事？

What's going on?

就在这时，斯坦的一个朋友开始拍我。

At which point, one of Stan's mates has started filming me.

我就说，斯坦。

And I went, Stan.

我说，让他别拍了。

I said, tell him to stop filming.

我现在已经有点不耐烦了。

And I'm now getting a little bit beyond agitated.

我就问，那接下来会怎么样？

I And said, well, what's gonna happen?

他们说，我们得把你遣送回去。

And they said, we're gonna have to deport you.

我说，什么？

I said, what?

我说，我明天还有解说呢。

I said, I've got a commentary tomorrow.

总之，这种不舒服的局面又持续了整整五分钟，这时我注意到迪克·赖特从拐角处探出头来。

Anyway, this went on rather uncomfortably for another good five minutes, at which point I noticed Dick Wright hearing his head round the corner.

迪克把我骗回来了，而且骗得非常、非常高明。

And Dick had got me back, and he'd got me back in a very, very good way.

为了做到这一点，他动用了利兹联安保人员，一位叫苏·沃森的女士，还有西约克郡警察和伊斯坦布尔机场警察。

And in order to do it, he had got Leeds United Security, a lady called Sue Watson involved, West Yorkshire Police, Istanbul Airport Police.

他们都参与了，这是最精彩的整蛊之一。

They were all in on it, and it is one of the best wind up.

我是说，我喜欢整蛊，但我当时真的以为自己要被驱逐出境、被逮捕了。

I mean, I love a wind up, but I honestly thought I was getting deported and arrested.

还有《午夜快车》

And Midnight Express

我正想说，驱逐出境还算轻的呢。

I was gonna say deported would have been the least of your problems.

《午夜快车》那可就……

Midnight Express would have...

那可就麻烦了。

That would have been an issue.

这个念头在我脑海里闪过不止一次。

That that flashed across my mind on more than one occasion.

天哪。

Oh my word.

我是说，请告诉我那段录像还在某个地方，我们能找到。

I I mean, please say that footage still exists somewhere where we can access.

因为通常你讲这些故事的时候，会说那时候没有手机摄像头，但那段录像确实存在过，也许现在还在。

I mean, because usually when you tell these stories, you go, oh, there was no camera phones in those days, but the fact that that footage somewhere did and perhaps still does exist.

我觉得我们需要让西约克郡警察、土耳其特勤局，所有人都参与进来，找到那段录像，然后放到TCV上。

I I think we need to get West Yorkshire Police, Turkish Secret Service, everyone involved in locating that footage and presenting it for for TCV.

那是我还有头发的时候，所以是很久以前了，希望斯坦已经从西约克郡警察局退休了。

Well, it's when I had hair so it was that long ago and hopefully Stan has since retired from West Yorkshire Police.

那是一个……

That was a...

对了，康纳，你记性真好。

Well, good memory, by the way, Conor.

我一直记得那个故事，每次想起来都觉得好笑。

I always I always remember laughing at that story.

太棒了。

Brilliant.

大家好。

Hello.

我是黛拉·弗洛伊德。

I'm Della Floyd.

曼城因在九年期间违反英超财务规定而被判所有罪名成立，他们正在提出上诉。在最新一期《超越比分》节目中，我们要探讨这个案件可能对联赛本身产生什么影响，以及它在史上最大的体育丑闻中能排到第几位。

And with Manchester City appealing after they were found guilty of all charges relating to breaches of the Premier League's financial regulations across a nine year period, on the latest episode of More Than The Score, we're asking what impact could the case have on the competition itself, and where does it rank amongst the biggest sporting scandals of all time?

现在收听。

Listen now.

在您收听BBC播客的任何地方搜索More Than The Score。

Search for More Than The Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

那么，快速回顾一下夏天。

So, quick summer recap.

热浪、数据泄露、AI黑客、折叠手机，还有一只走红的脊柱有问题的浣熊。

Heat waves, data leaks, AI hacks, folding phones, and a viral spinally challenged raccoon.

对，我觉得差不多就这些了，对吧？

Yeah, think that, that covers it, right?

我是托马斯·杰曼。

I'm Thomas Germain.

我是杰斯·马多克斯，The Interface节目从暑假回来了。

I'm Jess Maddox, and the interface is back from its summer break.

新一季，新搭档，同样深入探讨塑造我们世界和生活科技。

New season, new cohost, same deep dives into the tech that's shaping our world and our lives.

所以在AI消灭全人类之前

So before AI wipes out all of humanity

据说而已。

Allegedly.

欢迎收听《界面》节目。

Join us for the interface.

可以在bbc.com或任何你收听播客的平台收听。

Listen on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

我是韦恩·鲁尼。

Wayne Rooney here.

如果你想听更多我的内容，今天就去BBC Sounds上的《韦恩·鲁尼秀》吧，那里有我和布鲁诺·费尔南德斯、乔丹·皮克福德等人的聊天，还有更多更衣室里的故事。

If you want to hear more from me, head over to the Wayne Rooney show on BBC Sounds today to listen back to chats I have with the likes of Bruno Fernandes and Jordan Pickford, and plenty more stories from the dressing room.

在我看你们踢了那么多场比赛、关注俱乐部那么久之后，能来到俱乐部本身就已经是梦想成真，是一种荣幸。

Before I saw you guys playing so many times and I was following the club for so long, just coming to the club was already a dream come true, a privilege.

我从未想过或梦想过成为俱乐部的队长。

Never thought or dreamed about being the captain of the club.

我只是想为它踢球。

I just wanted to play for it.

葡萄牙给我提供了很多足球的YouTube网站。

Portugal have given me YouTube websites of football.

在BBC Sounds上搜索Wayne Rooney秀，现在订阅。

Search the Wayne Rooney show on BBC Sounds and subscribe now.

这样，当我的新系列《你能打败韦恩·鲁尼吗》上线时，你就能第一时间收到每一集。

That way, when my new series, can you beat Wayne Rooney, comes out, you'll be the first to get every episode as soon as they're released.

《足球日报》上的评论员观点。

The Commentators view on the Football Daily.

在BBC Sounds上收听。

Listen on BBC Sounds.

现在是《评论员对决》的时间。

Time for Clash of the Commentators.

上周，阿里在温布利以外的英格兰男足比赛场地中击败了约翰。

Last week, Ali beat John on English venues other than Wembley to have hosted an England men's match.

目前的积分榜上，约翰排名第一，但和阿里并列。

The league table at the moment is that John is on top but level with Ali.

他们俩都是五场赢了三场。

They both have three wins from five.

而伊恩，他打的比赛没那么多，所以这个排名有点失真，今天也许是个机会把局面扳回来。

And Ian, who hasn't played as many games, so this is a distorted table, a chance maybe to put things right today.

伊恩现在垫底，四场只赢了一场。

Ian is bottom of the table, one win from four.

所以约翰和伊恩会轮流回答问题，在三十秒内尽可能多地给出正确答案。

So John and Ian are gonna take turns to answer a question and give as many correct answers as they can in thirty seconds.

今天谁想先来？

Who wants to go first today?

这问题挺大的，对吧？

It's quite a big one, this, isn't it?

可惜我今天不太舒服。

Shame I'm under the weather.

他们可要听你的借口了。

They'll be getting your excuses in.

那个那个……

That that...

这已经是第二次了。

That's twice that.

你身体不舒服，而且不像罗伯·邦内特那样诚实。

You've gone under the weather, and you're not honest like Rob Bonnet.

那我第二个来。

I'll go second there.

这样我能多恢复一会儿。

It'll give me more recovery time.

好的。

Okay.

给约翰准备冰浴。

Ice bath for John.

好的。

Okay.

准备好了吗，伊恩？

You ready, Ian?

就是……

It's it's...

我准备好了。

I'm ready.

我看不到约翰，所以我猜他已经断线了。

I can't see John, so I presume John has disconnected.

好的，伊恩。

Right, Ian.

英超联赛回归了，你能说出本赛季至今进球超过一个的英超球员吗？

With the Premier League returning, can you name players who have scored more than one Premier League goal so far this season?

所以，英超联赛回归了，你能说出本赛季至今进球超过一个的英超球员吗？

So with the Premier League returning, can you name players who have scored more than one Premier League goal so far this season?

你的三十秒现在开始。

Your thirty seconds starts now.

好的。

Okay.

罗杰斯、帕尔默、伊萨克、萨卡、巴恩斯、哈维·巴恩斯。

Rogers, Palmer, Isaac, Saka, Barnes, Harvey Barnes.

约克雷斯、乌尔加德。

Yokoresh, Urdugard.

加油。

Come on.

加油。

Come on.

哦，真是疯了。

Oh, what a mental fuck.

不。

No.

那是……

That's...

我本来就应该用那种广撒网的方式。

I should've just gone the scattergun approach.

这确实是个难题。

It's a tough one.

就这样结束了。

That that was it.

上周阿里和约翰还在讨论那个广撒网的方法。

Last week, Ali and John were discussing that, the scattergun approach.

那真是个棘手的问题。

That is a tough question.

有不少人已经这么做了。

There's quite a lot of them who've done it.

没想到有这么多。

Was surprised how many.

所以你有五个正确答案，伊恩。

So you got five correct answers, Ian.

这够不够打败那个大个子？

Is that gonna be enough to beat the big man?

不够。

No.

那个身体不舒服的大个子？

The the under the weather big man?

不过，我记得我只写了六个。

Mind you, I only wrote down six, I think.

要不要把约翰叫回来？

Shall we bring John back in?

约翰能出来吗？

Is John available to I'm come out of the quiet

回到你这边。

back with you.

冰浴感觉怎么样？

How was the ice bath?

现在感觉好点了吗？

Feeling better now?

感觉精神了吗？

Feeling refreshed?

可能会好一点。

It might be a little bit better.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

那我来念一下这些词……

So I will read the words...

就像我对伊恩那样，把问题原样念出来。

Read the question exact same as I did to to Ian.

那我们开始吧，约翰。

So here we go, John.

英超联赛回归了，你能说出本赛季到目前为止进球超过一个的英超球员吗？

With the Premier League returning, can you name players who have scored more than one Premier League goal so far this season?

所以，英超联赛回归了，你能说出本赛季到目前为止进球超过一个的英超球员吗？

So with the Premier League returning, can you name players to have scored more than one Premier League goal so far this season?

你的三十秒现在开始。

Your thirty seconds starts now.

哈兰德，

Hurling Haaland,

哈弗茨，索利斯，也许吧。

Havertz, Solis, maybe.

还有谁……

Who else has...

库尼亚，伯恩茅斯，加克波，伊达……

Kunya, Bournemouth, Gakpo, Ida...

不是伊达，是伊萨克。

Not Ida, Isaac.

来个意想不到的人。

Somebody unexpected.

我想不起来了。

I can't remember.

哦，这个有点难。

Oh, it's a tough one.

这个问题挺难的。

It's a tough question.

听着音乐，在压力下很难思考。

It's hard to think under the pressure hearing the music.

而且这可能会比我想象的更紧张。

And has This could be tighter than I thought it was gonna be.

紧张。

Tight.

确实是……

It is...

Deno 是不是刚好撑住了？

Has Deno just held on?

我们要……

We're gonna...

我们正在数分数。

We're just counting up the taddies.

马上就能听到结果了。

Gonna hear a word any second now.

我真不敢相信我没说哈兰德。

I can't believe I didn't say Harland.

如果我说了霍兰德，我就会说土耳其的某个菜单了。

And had I said Holland, I'd have said some menu in Turkey.

所以，Ian，你答对了五个，这已经足够赢得比赛了。

So That was a Ian, you had five correct, and that has ended up being enough to win.

比分是五比四。

It's five four.

五比四。

Five four.

伊恩在《解说员对决》中击败了约翰。

Ian beats John in A Clash of the Commentators.

好

Good

问题不错，马特。

question, Matt.

这个问题问得好。

It was a good question.

好问题，马特。

Good question, Matt.

有，有

There's there's

太多了。

so many.

巴里、贝卢米、博格尔、布罗比、卡尔弗特-勒温、切尔基、戴维斯、埃兰加、埃默森、布鲁诺·费尔南德斯、格罗斯、霍兰德、哈弗茨、欣切尔伍德、艾萨克、雅内尔特、若昂·佩德罗、金、科斯托洛斯、姆贝乌莫、米切尔、厄德高、帕尔默、罗杰、萨卡、西蒙尼、塔弗尼尔、威洛克，还有

Barry, Bellumi, Bogle, Broby, Calvert Lewin, Cherkey, Davis, Elanga, Emerson, Bruno Fernandes, Groes, Holland, Havertz, Hinchelwood, Isaac, Janelt, Joe Pedro, King, Costulos, Mbuemo, Mitchell, Otergard, Palmer, Roger, Saka, Simeno, Tavernier, Willock, and

没轮到切尔西。

Never got to Chelsea.

我没轮到

I never got

切尔西。

to Chelsea.

这是个临场难题。

A tough question on the spot.

但干得好，伊恩。

But well done, Ian.

恭喜。

Congratulations.

问题。

Question.

嗯，不是。

Well, no.

谢谢你，康纳。

Thank you, Conor.

这样一来，局势就紧张了。

And That tightens

一下子拉近了。

it right up there.

突然，就……

A sudden, it just...

我现在已经近在咫尺了。

I'm within touching distance now.

你

You

是的。

are.

因为约翰和阿里是五投三中，而我是五投二中。

Because John and Ali are three from five, and I'm two from five.

嗯，我现在是六投三中了。

Well, I'm three from six now.

哦，确实是的。

Oh, actually, you are.

所以阿里是五投三中。

So Ali is three from five.

你是六投三中。

You're three from six.

他现在是榜首了。

He's he's now he's now top of the table.

没错。

That is right.

所以你现在绝对是在触手可及的范围内了。

And so you are now definitely within touching distance.

是的。

I am.

对。

Yep.

你正紧张地回头看呢。

You're nervously looking over your shoulder.

是的。

I am.

我不得不承认。

I can't I can't deny that.

好了，又到了我们每周的“意外酒吧名”环节。

Anyway, it is time for our unintended pub name of the week.

每周的“意外酒吧名”。

Unintended pub name of the week.

这周来自萨顿科菲尔德的亚当。

Which this week comes from Adam in Sutton Coalfield.

亲爱的约翰、伊恩和ABB，下班开车回家听英格兰对捷克那场比赛时，我听到了一个我觉得是无意中冒出来的酒吧名字。

Dear John, Ian, and ABB, listening to the England checkier game on the drive home from work, I heard what I believe to be an unintended pub name.

现在伊萨在左路，阿森纳球员在边后卫位置，寻找套边插上的空当。

Here is Eza on the left hand side, the Arsenal man in the full back position, looking for the overlapping hole.

左脚传中，球越过防线。

Crosses the left footed over the top.

凯恩转身摆脱。

Kane spins away.

后卫跟着他，但球弹地后被解围出界，飞向中线附近。

Defender was with him, but it bounces down and is cleared away out of play towards the halfway line.

约翰提到了“套边空当”，我猜那是个高大天花板的大酒馆，里面胡子拉碴的壮汉端着大杯喝蜂蜜酒。

John made reference to the overlapping hall, a venue I imagine to be a grand high ceiling tavern where burly bearded patrons swig mead from tankards.

墙上挂着过去伟大边后卫形状和大小的盔甲，进门必须出示完美的传中，无论是圣乔治旗还是爱尔兰、威尔士或苏格兰兄弟带来的凯尔特十字。

Suits of armor in the shape and size of great wingbacks of the past line the walls and entry is conditional on presentation on the perfect cross, be that one of Saint George or a Celtic cross carried by Irish, Welsh, or Scottish brethren.

我很喜欢这个播客。

I love the podcast.

这真的让人着迷，也很有趣，让我能一窥你们的世界，我每期都准时收听。

It's a fascinating and entertaining insight into your world, and I listen religiously.

继续保持，你们做得很好。

Keep up the good work.

来自萨顿科菲尔德的亚当。

Adam, from Sutton Coalfield.

我觉得这名字挺好的。

I think it's very good.

我甚至会把那个“的”去掉。

I'd I'd even get rid of the the.

你知道吗？

You know?

我就觉得“重叠大厅”挺好。

I just think Overlapping Halls.

它已经进入了基尔南·杜斯伯里那种潜在婚礼场地的范畴了。

It it enters the the Kiernan Dewsbury territory of potential wedding venues.

不过，是的，Overlapping Hall 就是本周六活动举办的地方。

But, yeah, Overlapping Hall is is where the event will be held this Saturday.

那对我来说完全没问题。

That that absolutely works for me.

而且，实际上，他可能会是个挺……

And actually, he he could be quite a...

他可能会成为常客，对吧？

He could be a regular feature, couldn't he?

所以……

So...

因为肯定有很多机会以“hall”结尾，成为意想不到的酒吧名字。

Because because there must be so many opportunities that end in hall for an unintended pub name.

但我在想，在 Overlapping Hall 里，你可以有类似套房或房间的设置。

But I was thinking then in the overlapping hall, you could have sort of like suites or rooms.

所以你可以有 Lewis 房、Fitz 厅之类的。

So you could have the the Lewis Room, the Fitz, Fitz Hall.

还记得吗？

Remember that?

他的绰号是……

His nickname was...

他的绰号是不是叫“一个尺码”？

Was his nickname One Size?

没错。

That's right.

一个尺码的菲茨

One One Size Fitz

大厅。

Hall.

约翰，你在那个里面肯定很合适，对吧？

You'd be good in that one, John, wouldn't you?

嗯，我会的。

Well, I would.

还有其他场馆可以选择。

Other halls are available.

我们正在积累足球解说术语和短语，这是一份很棒的足球术语表。

Great glossary of football as we build our collection of commentary terms and phrases.

第一级别是足球专属术语，跨运动使用的术语则归为第二级别。

Division one for football exclusive terms and for terms used across various sports, that's division two.

上周，第一级别是“倒地”和“欧足联点球”，不过我得说，我挺喜欢那个的。

Last week, division one was gone to ground and UEFA penalty, but I said I did enjoy that one.

那个欧足联点球，是马特·厄普森判的。

The UEFA penalty from, from Matt Upson.

而“买点球”是第二级别的。

And buying a penalty was division two.

但莱斯特球迷詹姆斯，大家好，伙计们。

But Lester Fan James, hello, guys.

我觉得“倒地”这个短语应该改到第二级别去。

I think the phrase going to ground should be changed to division two.

这是因为它在橄榄球里也会用到，但说的是grounding或者brought to ground，听起来挺熟悉的。

This is because it's used in rugby, but it's grounding or brought to ground, which sounds quite familiar.

我记得上学的时候有一次打橄榄球，我们得带着球倒地，好让别人去捡球。

I remember at school once we played rugby and had to go to ground with the ball so someone could go and collect the ball.

我不确定这是不是板上钉钉的第二分区词条，但也许你们可以讨论一下。

I don't know if this is a nailed on division two entry, but maybe you could discuss this.

继续加油，詹姆斯。

Keep up the good work, James.

我上周上了那个节目。

I I was on the show last week.

我有点……确实有点……

I I I sort of was was was certainly...

我的意思是，这整个……

I mean, this is the whole...

丹尼斯倒地了。

Dennis gone to ground.

他这个星期都没出现在酒吧。

He hasn't he hasn't showed up at the pub this week.

我本来觉得这肯定是二级的，但显然被投票进了一级，我也没办法，只能服从组里其他人的高见。

I'd I'd thought it was division two anyway, but it was obviously voted into division one above my head, and and, you know, I I I bow to the superior knowledge of the others on the panel.

但对我来说，它一直是二级的。

But, yeah, for me, it was always division two.

对。

Yep.

我肯定没有躲起来。

I definitely didn't go to ground.

要说的话，上周我可是飞起来了。

If anything, last week, I was flying.

我觉得“轻易倒地”是个足球术语。

I think the phrase going to ground too easily is a football phrase.

所以“倒地”这个词应该很常用，但“轻易倒地”我觉得更具体。

So going to ground, I think, would be widely used, but I think going to ground too easily.

我觉得在其他运动里你不会这么说吧？

I can't think that you'd say that in another sport, would you?

我觉得这样挺好的。

I think that's good.

我们要不要修改一下？

Should we amend that?

好的。

Okay.

那这就会成为我们新制作人克里斯的新任务了，这也正好让我们有机会对我们的前制作人内森说几句话。内森是TCB成功不可或缺的一部分，他辛勤工作，创作了那么多小片段，为TCP播客这几个月，甚至快两年的内容增色不少，我们会非常想念他。

That would be that would be a new task for our new producer, Chris, which actually probably gives us an opportunity to say to our former producer, Nathan, who was an integral part of the success of TCB, that he will be sorely missed because of the work that he diligently put in to create so many little snippets that have furnished the TCP podcast down the months and and...

现在我们都要进入第二季了。

Well, almost years now as we enter our second season.

说得对。

Hear.

说得对。

Hear.

是的。

Yes.

当然。

Absolutely.

我们确实应该非常感谢内森所做的一切。

We should very much thank Nathan for all of his efforts.

而且他以后可能还会偶尔出现。

And he and he may appear again Yeah.

偶尔。

Sporadically.

但就目前而言，我们有了新制作人克里斯，我觉得在这个播客里应该叫他“孩子王”。

But for the time being, we have new producer, Chris, who I think on this podcast should be referred to as childman.

你还记得这个故事吗？

Do you remember this story?

不记得了。

No.

所以呢……

So it's...

他会讨厌我讲这个故事的。

He'll hate he'll hate that I'm going to tell it.

但当他还是足球制作人的时候，上个赛季我们去阿塞拜疆打卡拉巴赫那场比赛，就是在巴库对阵纽卡斯尔的那场。

But when he was when he was the football producer, when we went to Azerbaijan last season for the Qarabag match, the Newcastle match in Baku against Qarabag.

比赛前一晚我们在餐厅吃饭，那个服务员挺有意思的，特别活跃，很夸张。

We were in a restaurant the night before the match, and this quite he was quite a character, the waiter, and he was larger than life.

他很快就盯上了克里斯，克里斯看起来挺年轻的，就这么说吧。

And he very quickly latched onto Chris, who's quite fresh faced, let's put it that way.

我们不都一样吗？

Aren't we all?

对，当然都一样。

Yes, of course we are.

然后他马上就管克里斯叫“小孩哥”，小孩哥。

And he immediately referred to Chris by the name of Childman, Childman.

查德曼。

Childman.

不。

No.

是查德曼。

It's childman.

查德曼。

Childman.

查德曼。

Childman.

查德曼。

Childman.

你。

You.

查德，你。

Child you.

孩子侠。

Childman.

你想吃什么？

What do you want to eat?

那个……

Was the...

所以我觉得在这个播客里，既然克里斯现在是常驻制作人，就应该叫他孩子侠。

So I think on this podcast, now now that Chris is the regular producer, he should be referred to as as childman.

你你……

You you...

克里斯，你现在会讨厌这个称呼，但以后你会喜欢的。

You'll hate it now, Chris, but you'll like it in future years.

你会的。

You will.

你会的。

You will.

唯一

The only

特别是当你的所有朋友都开始叫你Childman的时候。

thing Particularly when particularly when all of your friends start calling you childman.

我想到的是，因为克里斯的绰号是Psycho，克里斯Psycho，我想每次我们提到他的时候，你可以配上Psycho的主题音乐。

The only thing I thought of is that because Chris's nickname is psycho, Chris Psycho, I thought every time we refer to him, you could then have the Psycho theme to you.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

这是个好主意。

That's a good idea.

你知道，就像Nathan会加一点那种，嗯，

You know, how Nathan would sprinkle in a little bit of Yeah.

《弗尔蒂旅馆》或者《泰德·洛》之类的。

Fawlty Towers or Ted Low or whatever.

每次我们提到克里斯，我们都可以放那个Psycho的主题曲。

Every time we refer to Chris, we could have whatever the psycho theme tune was.

我不确定你能从他那里得到多少配合。

I'm not sure you're gonna get much cooperation from him.

我们需要第三方介入。

We we need a third party involved.

不。

No.

说得对。

Point.

但他可能更喜欢这个，而不是查尔顿那个选择。

But he might prefer that to the alternative of Charlton.

但他可能会这么做。

But he might do.

他可能会。

He might do.

二选一，克里斯。

One or the other, Chris.

你来选。

You choose.

选你的武器吧。

Choose your weapon.

哦，还有，回到刚才说的……

Oh, also, just going back to...

我跟马特·阿普森提过这事，他在克罗地亚和我们一起看英格兰那场比赛。顺便说一句，马特，我记得比赛那天早上，他跑去亚得里亚海玩桨板了。

And I mentioned this to Matt Upsen who was with us in in Croatia for the for the England match there, where incidentally, Matt Matt, I think on the morning of the match, went paddle boarding off across the Adriatic.

当时我就想，希望他能平安回来。

And it was one of those where where I thought, I hope he comes back.

总之，这让我想起一件事。

Anyway It reminds me

就是克里斯·瓦德尔那个故事，关于加沙那边……

of the the Chris Waddle story about Gaza going off on a on a...

他们管那叫什么来着？

What do they call it?

水上摩托。

Jet ski.

然后他就直接朝着地平线开过去了。

And he just went straight out towards the horizon.

估计他是打算回来的。

Presume he's got a comeback.

我当时也是这么想的，康纳。

But I thought exactly the same then, Conor.

不过，还有一位常听我们节目的听众，《卫报》的雅各布·斯坦伯格，他跟我说，关于马特在欧足联的那个点球，雅各布说那不是……

But, also, a regular listener, Jacob Steinberg from The Guardian, said to me, on Matt's UEFA penalty, Jacob said he said it's not...

那是……

It's...

那不是马特·厄普森。

That wasn't Matt Upson.

那个球被称作欧足联点球已经有一阵子了。

That has been referred to as a UEFA penalty for some time.

不过，这仍然是甲级联赛的进球。

However, still a division one entry.

但基本上，雅各布现在是在抢马特·厄普森的功劳。

But, basically, Jacob's now taking away the credit for Matt Upson.

下一条来自朗伊顿的史蒂夫，他说：向TCV的圣三位一体问好。

The next one comes from Steve in Long Eaton who says, hi to the holy trinity of TCV.

嗯，现在可不止三位一体了。

Well, it's more than a trinity now.

四个人对应的三位一体该怎么说呢？

What would what would what would the equivalent of a trinity be for four?

史蒂夫说：我喜欢这个播客，经常一边遛我六岁的西施犬贝利一边听。

Steve says, I love the podcast and regularly listen while walking my six year old Shih Tzu, Bailey.

我是替它写的，这样这条消息就能被念出来。

I'm writing on his behalf so that this gets read out.

可惜，我不是六岁，而且已经过了半个多世纪了。

Sadly, I'm not six and haven't been for over half a century.

总之，贝利建议把“为镜头表演”这一项加入第一级别。

Anyway, Bailey suggests that one for the cameras should be added to division one.

我们都见过那种门将，不管是在电视上还是在公园里，他们会做出精彩的扑救来接住球或者把球托出去，而更明智的门将则会轻松地处理来球。

We've all seen that keeper either on TV or the park that will dive spectacularly to catch the ball or tip one over where more sensible ones will just nonchalantly deal with what's coming their way.

希望贝利能入选。

Hope that Bailey makes the cut.

如果不行的话，如果狗狗足球队还在招人，贝利会是个很好的挡风条，因为散步后他睡很多。

Failing that, if the doggy football team is still recruiting Bailey would make a good draft excluder as after walks he sleeps lots.

继续加油，伙计们。

Keep up the good work fellas.

这就是来自朗伊顿的史蒂夫的留言。

And that is from Steve in Long Eaton.

非常感谢六岁的西施犬贝利的贡献。

Thanks very much to that contribution from Bailey, the six year old Shih Tzu.

这让我想起，不知道你们有没有听过，我觉得他是个很棒的电台记者，西莱特尔，他简直是制作那种我们称之为“讣告”的节目的绝对大师。

And that actually reminds me of I don't know whether you heard and I think he's I think he's a brilliant radio reporter, Siletel, who is absolute master of of packages, as we would call them, that are obituaries.

几周前埃斯特·兰森去世的时候，大卫·西勒托那段很长的报道真是做得太棒了。

And when Esther Ransom died a couple of weeks ago, David Sileteau's lengthy package was a brilliant piece of work.

里面还有一句，大概是说，甚至还包括了会说话的狗……

And it included the line, which was something like, and it even included dogs that said...

然后他放了一段狗说话的录音，

And then he included the clip where the dog says

香肠。

sausages.

没错。

It's okay.

真的太精彩了。

It was brilliant.

就是那段狗说香肠的小片段。

It's just that little clip of the dog saying sausages.

所以贝利，有点像那只说香肠的狗。

So Bailey, a little bit like that dog that said sausages.

嗯，这可是个很棒的贡献，不是吗？来自一只小狗的贡献。

Well, that's a very good contribution, isn't it, from from a from a little dog?

它怎么说的来着？

How did it go again?

帕塞奇。

Passage.

我觉得肯定有一个是为镜头准备的。

I I I think one for the camera is certainly in there.

不过我不能把它列为第一梯队。

I I can't have it as division one, though.

我的意思是，很少有运动项目里有人不能为了镜头做点花哨的事。

I mean, there's very few sports where somebody can't do something flamboyantly just for the cameras.

我是说

I mean

镜头。

The cameras.