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After the commotion of Sunday's game at Anfield, we finally got some proper football played between two proper clubs. One owned by a beautiful British businessman, and the other... oh, that's right. Marcus and Vish are here to react to Coventry City's thumping of Newcastle United. Plus, Should Steve Bruce coach the England cricket team? Get your Football Ramble x Admiral kit here. Find us on Bluesky, X, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube, and email us here: show@footballramble.com. Sign up to the Football Ramble Patreon for ad-free shows for just $5 per month: https://www.patreon.com/footballramble. ***Please take the time to rate us on your podcast app. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** The Football Ramble, the original and best football podcast. No cliches. No ex-pros like Peter Crouch or The Rest is Football. Just the funniest football conversation out there. Your guardian for the season, daily not weekly. Stick to the Ramble, totally. Choose the Ramble vs everyone else. Brand new podcasts every single weekday throughout the Premier League and Champions League season, covering Arsenal, Aston Villa, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Chelsea, Coventry City, Crystal Palace, Everton, Fulham, Hull City, Ipswich Town, Leeds United, Liverpool, Man City, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Nottingham Forest, Sunderland and Spurs. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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大家好。

Hello, everybody.

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欢迎收听《足球漫谈》。

Welcome to the Football Ramble.

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考文垂城、哈默、纽卡斯尔联,还有弗兰基·兰帕德都很高兴。

Coventry City, Hammer, Newcastle United, and Frankie Lampard was delighted.

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今天是10月13日,星期二。

It's Tuesday, October 13.

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我是马库斯·斯佩勒。

I'm Marcus Speller.

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我是……

And I'm.

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欢迎大家来到《足球漫谈》。

Welcome one and all to the Football Ramble.

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今天真是个美好的星期二,维什。

It's it's a terrific Tuesday, Vish.

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不得不说,考文垂城这个赛季确实完全融入了英超。

You have to say Coventry City, there is no doubt about it, have fully arrived in the Premier League this season.

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他们昨晚四比一击败了纽卡斯尔联。

They beat Newcastle United four one last night.

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我跟你说,这正是我们想在周一晚上的足球比赛中看到的。

I tell you what, that is what we want to see from a Monday Night Football match.

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你来我往,精彩的进球,

End to end, great goals,

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还有笑脸。

and smiling faces.

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百分之百。

A 100%.

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我们想看开放的足球。

We want open football.

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我们想看有吸引力的足球。

We want engaging football.

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我们想要进球。

We want goals.

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我们想要机会。

We want chances.

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我们希望在录制时看到一场干净的比赛。

We want a clean game at the time of recording.

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对两支球队都没有任何疑问。

No questions asked about either team.

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我们很高兴。

We're happy.

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我们可以相信眼前的一切。

We can believe what's in front of us.

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这真是度过周一晚上的绝佳方式。

Was it was a a brilliant way to spend a Monday evening.

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有一支蓝白相间的球队,他们做事很靠谱。

There's a team in blue and white who can do things properly.

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加油。

Come on.

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是的。

Yes.

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总之,考文垂城。

Anyway, Coventry City.

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我是说,他们在CBS球场的首场英超胜利,因为当然,以前他们是在哈特菲尔德路踢球的。

I mean, their first ever Premier League victory at the CBS Arena because, of course, they played at Hartfield Road back in the old days.

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你知道,昨晚你已经听了很多数据和事实。

You know, you've heard all the stats a lot last night and all the facts.

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他们25年来在主场打进的第一个英超进球。

Their first, home Premier League goal scored in twenty five years.

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从那以后艾玛一直在做什么?

Emma been doing since then?

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真是疯狂,对吧?

Mental, isn't it?

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这太疯狂了。

It's crazy.

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我是说,上次他们做到这一点的时候,艾玛·邦顿还在排行榜榜首呢。

I mean, Emma Emma Bunton was top of the charts last time they, were doing this.

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所以也许他们

So maybe they

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顺便问一下,这让你觉得自己老了多少岁?

How much how much does that age you, by the way?

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不只是辣妹组合,而是艾玛·邦顿。

Not even the Spice Girls, but Emma Bunton.

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她们都已经单飞了。

They'd already woken up.

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单飞。

Solo.

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单飞的作品。

Solo stuff.

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哇。

Wow.

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可怜的艾玛。

Poor old Emma.

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但你知道,那段时光很美好。

But, you know, it was great while it lasted.

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在考文垂,他们现在在英超联赛中站稳了脚跟。

Up at Coventry, they've got both feet under the desk now, the Premier League desk.

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当然,他们在输掉前四场比赛后,取得了连胜。

And they got back to back wins, of course, having lost their first four matches.

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我们稍后会详细讨论比赛细节。

This, we'll get into the to the details of the game, in just just a moment.

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但是,维什,他们输掉了前四场比赛,没有进球。

But, Vish, having lost their first four games, they weren't scoring.

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当然,他们在国际比赛日前后扭转了局面。

They have turned that round either side of the international break, of course.

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这正是弗兰克·兰帕德和他的球队所需要的。

This is just what the doctor ordered for Frank Lampard and his Merry Men.

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百分之百。

A 100%.

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现场气氛非常特别,就像客场对阵森林队时看到比分时那种激动人心的场面。

The atmosphere was pretty special, in the way that the the limbs at the, you know, in the game away to Forest when they saw the scores.

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那对他们这个赛季来说是一个难以置信的时刻。

Like, that was an incredible moment for their season.

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而这次特别的是,那种气氛一直持续不断。

And this in particular, it was a way that it it just kept going.

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我是说,你知道,我们的工作性质不仅是评估比赛,还要考虑这对考文垂未来的意义。

I mean, it was you know, I suppose the nature of our job is to not just assess the game, but also what it might mean for Coventry going forward.

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但实际上,我觉得我们应该让自己多沉浸在这一刻,因为我认为,鲁多尼这场比赛表现非常出色,但他是那个罚进点球的人,而他是上赛季他们最好的球员之一,而且这个胜利是建立在很多上赛季就在队的球员基础上的。

But actually, like, I think we should allow ourselves to spend a bit more time in the moment because I think, you know, Ruddonian had a brilliant game, but the fact that he was the one that put the penalty in, having been one of their best players last season, the fact that it was it was built upon a lot of the players who were there last season.

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我觉得,是的。

I think Yeah.

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不管你是像考文垂那样赢得冠军,还是通过附加赛升上来,你总会被人议论,说你是不是马上就会降级,或者说你靠那批带你上来的球员能不能行。

Regardless of whether you win the championship, as Coventry did, or come through the playoffs, you're always going to be the subject to people ruminating about whether you're going go straight back down, whether you can do it with the same players who brought you up.

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感觉顶级联赛的足球会让人变得很善变。

And it kind of feels like top flight football makes you fickle.

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它会让你忽视你的英雄,因为,对,你在第二级别联赛很厉害,但你在顶级联赛能行吗?

It makes you disregard your heroes because, yeah, you were great in the second tier, but can you cut it in the first tier?

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你立刻就开始挑剔他们了。

You immediately scrutinize them.

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那些球员能在那些球迷面前拥有那样的时刻,真的很美好,那些球迷整个上个赛季和上上个赛季都一直很爱他们。

And it was really nice all those players to have that moment in front of those fans who would have adored them all of last season and the season before that as well.

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我也很喜欢他们一直在打破各种纪录这一点。

I also just love the fact that they were just ticking over loads of records as well.

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谢里夫是他们最年轻的进球者。

The fact that Sharif is their youngest youngest goal goal scorer.

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进球者。

Scorer.

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然后……

And then...

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嗯,他是他们最年轻的进球者之一,然后姆富内在最后时刻打进了那个绝对精彩的进球……

Well, one of their youngest goal scorers, then Mfune at the end gets that absolute banger to...

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现在他实际上……是的。

And now he's actually Yes.

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最年轻的英超进球者。

The youngest Premier League goal scorer.

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那真是一个美好的夜晚。

It it was just a a great evening.

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当然,在线来自曼城。

Online from Manchester City, of course.

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是的。

Yes.

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快离开那里吧,小伙子。

Get out of there, lad.

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快……

Get...

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加油。

Come on.

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快上考文垂这趟好车。

Jump aboard the good shit Coventry.

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他的谈判筹码可不太硬。

His his bargaining chip isn't the strongest.

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求你了,这场比赛之后把我永久签下吧,求你了。

Please take me on a permanent after this, please.

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就是……

Just...

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你只需要付我一次钱。

You only have to pay me once.

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一次只签一份合同就行。

Just one contract at a time.

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埃利斯·西姆斯也进球了。

Ellis Sims scored as well.

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这是他自对阵切尔西进球以来的首个英超进球。

His first Premier League goal since he scored against

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那是17年的事了。

Chelsea for 17.

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他基本上就是我说的那个人。

He's basically one...

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对,就是他。

He's basically who I'm talking about.

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是的。

Yes.

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确实如此。

Well, indeed.

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上个赛季他对球队非常重要,而且他当时也进球了。

He's such an important player for the last season, and there he was getting his goal, as well.

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还有,托马斯·阿桑特差点进球,那脚劲射打在门柱上。

And, Thomas Asante nearly scored and had that rasper off the post.

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我跟你说,这场比赛真是……

I'll you, it was a game for long long...

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感觉就是远射特别多。

For long shots on goal, I feel.

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我是说,斯文·博特曼也进了一个漂亮的球。

I mean, Sven Botman obviously scored a peach, as well.

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你之前也聊过那个。

You've talked about that.

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谢里夫打进了一个……

Sheriff scored a...

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那脚射门简直像导弹一样。

It was an absolute scud missile of a strike.

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但话说回来,还是……

But, again, like, there was...

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我是说,纽卡斯尔可能会觉得自己本应该进更多的球。

I I mean, Newcastle will feel they should have scored more, perhaps.

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但对中立球迷和考文垂城的球迷来说,这真的是一场非常非常精彩的比赛。

But for the neutral and for the Coventry City fans, this was a really, really entertaining game.

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你看,考文垂的后卫博比·托马斯被评为全场最佳球员。

I mean, it shows you that Coventry defender Bobby Thomas was awarded man of the match.

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在一场他们4比1赢下的比赛中,他们的后卫拿到了全场最佳。

In a game where they win four one, one of their defenders gets man of the match.

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我觉得这很能说明比赛有多开放,双方你来我往。

I think that's reasonably telling on how kind of end to end it was.

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而且,当他们在比赛结束时把他放上大屏幕……

And, when they when they had him up on screen at the end of the game...

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嗯,作为一个……

Well, as a...

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你知道,在比赛的最后阶段,当解说员已经把他评为最佳球员时,他们会做那种事,就是列出一个表格,显示他在所有不同数据指标中排名第一。

You know, in the dreads of the game when, the commentator had had awarded him player of the match, You know, they do that thing where they bring up a table of all the, all the different metrics where they were first in.

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这是我第一次看到这么多次解围。

It's one of the first time I've seen clearances.

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好的。

Okay.

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他大概解围了十四、十五次。

He made something like 14, 15 clearances.

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怎么能解围那么多次?

How do you make that many?

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这很厉害,对吧?

That's great, isn't it?

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这……

That's...

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但这都快赶上紧急救援了。

But that's bordering on emergency services stuff.

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这就是……

That's what...

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但这就是我的意思。

But that's what I mean.

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这场比赛就是这么有趣,因为四比……

That's how it's it's funny this game how it went, because four...

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对,我觉得四比一并不能说明全部问题。

I, yeah, I I don't think four one tells the story.

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没错。

No.

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因为我们……

Because we're...

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因为如果你比较……

Because if you compare...

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七比四,七比四会更准确。

Seven four seven four would have been an Seven accurate

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四。

four.

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故事。

Story.

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因为就像你刚才说的,纽卡斯尔本该进更多球,但是

Because as you said there, Newcastle should have got more goals, but

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所以我在

So I'm

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科弗奇也应该进更多的球。

coverage also should have scored more.

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所以我要改变我对这场比赛的评价,虽然我挺享受的。

So I'm gonna revise my opinion on this game having having enjoyed it.

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我现在觉得被骗了。

I feel robbed now.

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他们骗了我们大概六个进球。

They've robbed us of about six goals.

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我们被亏待了。

We've been shortchanged.

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所以我觉得这场比赛以后回头看,对中立球迷来说,大概就是那种“如果当初”的比赛。

So I feel this game will always look back on as the sort of what if game for the neutral, perhaps.

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不。

No.

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我觉得,我觉得这个……

I I I think I think this...

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尽管周末发生了那些事,还有某些球队庆祝的方式,但这一天才是英超死去的那一天——考文垂和纽卡斯尔让我们开始怀疑自己眼前看到的东西。

Despite what happened on the weekend and the way certain teams celebrated, this was the day the Premier League died when Coventry and Newcastle made us question what we were watching in front of our eyes.

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就是那种真实性。

Just the veracity of it.

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这是真的吗?

Is this legitimate?

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这里面是不是还有别的什么?

Is there something more here?

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这到底有没有任何意义?

Does this have any meaning at all?

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但事情就是这样。

But there we are.

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在这一切被证实或否定之前,我们会继续开心地聊下去。

Until that's all proved, or not proved, we will, we will bounce on merrily.

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不过,是的,考文垂赢了一场好球。

But, yeah, good win for for Coventry.

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我……

I...

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我……

I...

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我的意思是,想到博比·托马斯拿到最佳球员这事儿,确实挺有意思的。

I mean, it is funny when you when you think about Bobby Thomas getting awarded man...

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好吧,也不是有意思。

Well, it's not funny.

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我是说,他确实配得上这个奖。

I mean, he he earned that award.

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这……

It...

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你知道吗?

You know?

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我是说,这是他第一个英超赛季,之前他一直在低级联赛,租借到巴罗队。

I mean, it's his first season in the Premier League after, going through the leagues, on loan with Barrow Barrow.

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想想布里斯托尔流浪者和巴恩斯利,真是不可思议。

I mean, mad to think Bristol Rovers and Barnsley.

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他把所有B开头的球队都待过了。

He's done all the b's.

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现在他转到C开头的了。

Now he's moved on to c.

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他只需要等唐卡斯特升上来,或者我是不是漏了什么更明显的?

And he's just got to wait until Doncaster come up, or is it maybe a more obvious what I'm missing there?

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你连德比郡都没想到,是吧?

You couldn't even do Derby, could you?

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你没法让自己去德比郡。

You couldn't bring yourself to do Derby.

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做不到。

Couldn't do it.

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做不到。

Couldn't do it.

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但纽卡斯尔联队,让我们把注意力转向他们,因为他们在这场精彩的比赛中发挥了作用。

But Newcastle United, let's turn our attention to to to them because they played their part in this entertaining game.

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我可靠地得知,博比·托马斯也曾在伯恩利效力。

I'm reliably informed that, Bobby Thomas was also at Burnley as well.

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所以他确实在足球联赛中,把每个以B开头的俱乐部都待了个遍,在马克·斯佩勒那里。

So he really did do every single club that begins with b, in the Football League, at Marcus Speller.

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所以……

So...

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然后纽卡斯尔联队……

And then Newcastle United...

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意思是,据杰米·卡拉格说,他们被击败了。

Mean, they were beaten up according to Jamie Carragher.

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而且他们……

And they...

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很多人都在回想大约一个月前,纽卡斯尔联队在埃兰路球场被利兹联队以4比1击败的那场比赛。

A lot of people were casting their minds back to when Newcastle United were beaten, four one, sorry, by Leeds United at Ellen Road, about a month ago.

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我想那是他们在英超联赛的最后一场客场比赛。

I think it was their last away, match in the Premier League.

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这次有点不同。

This was this was a bit different.

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我觉得有点不一样。

I think it was a little bit different.

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我觉得……

I I think...

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因为利兹联队确实狠狠教训了纽卡斯尔联队。

Because Leeds really hammered Newcastle United.

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而且我觉得考文垂城……

And I feel Coventry City...

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我不确定纽卡斯尔是否像有些人说的那样被压制了,但他们确实在拼抢上输了。

I'm not sure Newcastle were outplayed, as some people were saying, but they were definitely outfought.

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而且,我的意思是,当时有……

And, I mean, there was...

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那那……

It it...

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我忘了是哪个进球了,就是刘易斯·霍尔在那个边路被断球的时候。

I forget which goal it was when Lewis Hall gets caught on, that flank.

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那是西姆斯的进球。

It's a Sims goal.

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那是第三个球。

It's it's a third one.

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而且,考文垂,他们的求胜欲望,他们的身体对抗强度……

And and and there, Coventry, their desire, their their physicality...

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赛季开始前我们就聊过考文垂的身体对抗强度。

We spoke about Coventry's physicality before the season started.

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他们签了很多身体强壮的球员,当然,技术也很出色。

They were very much signing physical players and, obviously, plays with quality.

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我的意思是,你知道,他们不是那种只会横冲直撞的大个子。

I mean, you you know, you're not just a big bumbling oaf.

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你明白吧?

You know?

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你看到沙里夫把球送进网窝时的表现了。

You saw what Sharif did when he put the ball in the back of the net.

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他们显然都是好球员,兰帕德特别提到沙里夫,对他寄予厚望。

They're obviously good players, and Lampard said in it with Sharif in particular, they've got real high hopes for him.

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但考文垂这边,还是那股身体对抗的劲头,他们早就准备好了。

But with Coventry, again, that physicality, they were prepared for it.

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但你在那一段攻防中看到了,身体对抗是一方面,但纽卡斯尔也……

But you saw that in that little passage of play, the physicality, but also Newcastle.

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基本上就是乔尔·林顿差点送了个点球,然后又犯规了别人。

It basically took Joel Linton to nearly give away a penalty then then foul someone.

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还有……

There was...

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在那段比赛里他至少犯规了一次,但考文垂抓住了那次射门机会,然后他们打进了。

He'd made at least one foul in that passage of play, but Coventry getting the desire of the strike that that that that that and they get it through.

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我只是……

And I just...

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对于这支纽卡斯尔联队来说,他们赛季开局不错,但那个……

With this Newcastle United side, they start the season pretty well, but that...

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虽然你之前输给了利兹联,现在又输了这场。

Though you had that Leeds defeat, and now you've had this one.

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我是说,他……

I mean, he's...

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赛后纽卡斯尔向球迷道歉了,对吧?

He apologized, didn't he, Newcastle, after the game to the to the fans?

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我在想……

I wonder if...

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我是说,他们现在该怎么办?

I mean, what are they to do now?

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因为就像我说的,他们还是有点实力的。

Because as I say, they can play a little bit.

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他们会为没进更多球感到遗憾。

They'll be disappointed they didn't score more.

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但是,你觉得他们在哪些方面表现如何,维什?

But, mean, how did you assess their performance in in the areas where they will be looking at, Vish?

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我觉得你刚才说得很对,纽卡斯尔并没有被压制。

I think you summed it up well there when you said it didn't feel like Newcastle were outplayed.

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而且他们有很多机会,要么错过了,就像你说的,比如帕尔多的……

And they had loads of opportunities, that they either missed, as you said, like, Pardo's...

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我们……

We...

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你知道,他选择过掉门将,但托马斯在门线上把球解围了。

You know, he chose to round the keeper, and Thomas clears it off the line.

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还有一次在近门柱,他把球留给没人接应,那真是挺有意思的。

And there was one at the near post where he leaves it for no one, which that was enjoyable.

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但他看起来其实挺活跃的。

But it he actually looked quite lively.

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他们感觉有点不在状态。

They felt a bit out of sync.

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就像彼此是陌生人一样。

It was like they were strangers.

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你知道,他们传球老是失误。

You know, they were misplacing passes.

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他们给边路球员传的球类型不对。

They were playing the wrong kind of passes to people out wide.

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他们经常越位,尤其是边路球员。

They were caught offside loads, especially people out wide.

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哈维·巴恩斯好像不知道自己想干什么,这对于一个感觉上非常直接的球员来说很奇怪,尤其是在他状态最好的时候。

Harvey Barnes didn't seem to know what he wanted to do, which is strange for a player who feel like he's so direct to his very best.

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还有你提到的关于拼抢的问题,我的意思是,当你输给格纳利、吉穆雷什,甚至像安东尼·戈登这样在回防上付出很多努力的球员时,纽卡斯尔不再是你通常期望的那支顽强的球队,这真的有那么令人惊讶吗?

And the stuff you mentioned about fight there, I mean, is it really that surprising that Newcastle are no longer the tenacious side that you usually expect them to be when you lose to Gnarly, Gimuresh, even someone like Anthony Gordon who does so much work going back the other way?

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是的,他们确实让人很失望。

Yeah, they were they were really disappointing.

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我觉得还有一点,你提到了刘易斯·霍尔在那个进球中被断球的方式。

I thought it was there was also an element you know, you mentioned the the way that Lewis Hall was dispossessed for that goal.

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我觉得他们也有点像是在想,你知道,为什么考文垂要这样对我们?

I think there was also an element of, like, kind of how to themselves thinking, you know, why are Coventry doing this to us?

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当霍尔被断球时,我想是在纽卡斯尔的左路,他一边看着裁判,一边在扛住对手。

When Hall gets dispossessed on, you know, I suppose, on the Newcastle left, he's holding off his man while looking at the referee.

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有那么一个时刻,他在对抗中占了上风,但他……

There's a point where he has the better of that battle, but he's

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对,是的。

like Yeah.

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他几乎像是在板球比赛中那样申诉。

He's he's almost kind of appealing in cricket.

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他在要犯规,但裁判没给。

He's asking for the foul, then he doesn't get it.

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然后他就……

And he's...

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你知道,接着就有一次反击,西姆斯最终把球打进了。

You know, and there's a there's a counterattack, and Sims ends up putting it in.

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但是……

But...

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对,这真是支奇怪的球队,因为我和你一样……

Yeah, there are really strange side because I, like you...

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嗯,就像你说的,他们开局不错。

Well, I mean, as you say, they started well.

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我有点那种赛季初的感觉。

I have kind of had that early season.

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我知道这才打了六场比赛,但我对他们有那种赛季初的印象,我当时就想,哦,看吧,这是过渡的一年,他们看起来找对了人,准备重建一下。

I appreciate it's only six games in, but I have that early season impression of them where I was like, oh, look, it's a transitional year, and they look like they got the right guy in there for, a bit of a rebuild.

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然后我跟几个纽卡斯尔的朋友聊了聊,还有我哥哥,他昨天说他是纽卡斯尔的球迷,感觉他们好像已经比我想象的更不耐烦了。

And then speaking to a couple of Newcastle mates, and my brother yesterday, who's a Newcastle fan, it was like there was they've already they seem further along their tether than I thought they'd be.

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有意思。

Interesting.

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而且,是的,我不知道这有多少是因为输球的气愤,你知道,两场1比4,还有这场比赛输得那么难看,因为他们真的非常非常马虎。

And, yeah, I I don't know how much of that is just the anger of losing, you know, two games, four-one, and losing this game in that manner, because they were really, really sloppy.

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但,是的,这真的很奇怪。

But, yeah, it's a it's a really strange one.

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乔林顿,那是他本赛季第一次出场,他上场后,你知道,开始首发,他会给中场带来更多的稳固性。

The fact that Joel Linton, that was his first appearance of the season, he when he comes in and, you know, is starting games, he will give them a bit more solidity in the middle.

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但他们太容易被对手突破了。

But they were just far too easy to play against.

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而且他们擅长的事情全都做得特别差。

And just really bad at all the things they do quite well.

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就是……

There was...

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感觉对球的压迫很少。

Felt like there was very little pressure on the ball.

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而且他们也不会赢……

And also the fact that they won't win...

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我没……

I didn't...

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好像他们也没抢到多少二点球。

Didn't seem like they were winning any second balls either.

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我的意思是,你觉得纽卡斯尔和一些球迷会不会这么说,你知道,赛季初的几场比赛,当大家预期他们会挣扎时,他们反而表现不错。

I mean, do you feel that with Newcastle and some of the fans maybe saying there that, you know, when they have the first few games of the season, they do alright when people are expecting them to struggle.

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然后人们会开始说,其实纽卡斯尔没那么糟。

And people will start saying, actually, Newcastle, it's not that bad.

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你你……

You you...

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你说得对。

You're right.

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我本来以为会比这糟糕得多。

Thought it was gonna be a lot worse than this.

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但那些每场比赛都看、每周都看的球迷,他们会说,哦,是的。

But the fans who watch every minute of their matches and week in, week out, they're going, oh, yeah.

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这一切都是...

It was all...

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这是...

It's...

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你...

You're...

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从外面看,你看不到我们的角度,是的。

From the outside looking in, you're not seeing this from our point of view that, yes.

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好的。

Okay.

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从成绩上看,其实还不算太差。

Results wise, it's not been terrible.

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但这些表现,就像我们在利兹联和昨晚看到的那样,感觉他们好像已经进入状态了。

But these performances, as we saw at Waiter Leeds and and and last night, it's like that they've been in the post kinda thing.

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你知道,那那那其实是……

You know, that that that is...

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你知道,你你你把中场的心脏给抽走了。

You know, you you you rip out, you know, heart of that midfield.

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不是……

Not...

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我是说,尼科·冈萨雷斯,他显然是个好球员。

I mean, Nico Gonzalez, he's he's a good player, obviously.

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我觉得有很多讨论,我也理解。

I think there's a lot of chat, and I understand.

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再说,这是……

Again, this is...

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我觉得这就是问题所在。

And I think this is the problem.

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这就是赛季初期的紧张感。

This is the tension of of the early part of the season.

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你会想,嗯,给它点时间。

You're kind of thinking, well, give it some time.

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再看看。

Let's see.

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你知道,他们得适应新体系,但你也看到其他球队,比如赫尔城,很明显,你会想,有些球队一开始就进入状态了。

You know, they've gotta get fitted into a new system, and yet you can see other teams, you know, Hull City being the obvious one, where you kind of think, well, some teams hit the ground running.

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在英超,如果你开局有点糟糕,然后到了十一月。

And in the Premier League, you you you have a bit of a sloppy start, and you get into November.

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如果你还在降级区,那每场比赛突然就有压力了。

If you're still down there, then suddenly there's pressure on every game.

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我也不知道。

And I don't know.

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我就在想,大家是不是在想,好吧。

I just wonder if people are thinking, okay.

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费尔南德斯·帕尔多会不会突然变得很厉害?

Is Fernandez Pardo gonna suddenly become amazing?

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你知道,尼科·冈萨雷斯会不会突然成为一个统治级的中场?

You know, is Nico Gonzalez gonna suddenly become a dominant fielder?

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这些会不会发生?

Is this gonna happen?

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是不是……

Is that...

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有很多问号。

There's a lot of question marks.

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这些会不会突然就顺了?

Is that gonna click?

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这些会不会真的发生?

Is that gonna happen?

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当有太多事情需要发生的时候,那就是你开始担心的时候。

When you've got too many of those things that need to happen, that's when you start worrying.

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我是富勒姆的球迷。

I'm a Fulham fan.

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现在的情况正是如此。

That's exactly what's going on right there.

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所以,是的,这是有可能的。

And so, yes, it is possible.

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我不认为纽卡斯尔联队会降级。

I don't think Newcastle United can get relegated.

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但我认为这些担忧现在已经很明显了,可以说,广大的足球界都看到了。

But I think those concerns are now quite obvious to the the the wider footballing public, if you like.

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所以我不认为这是一场灾难。

So I don't think it's a disaster.

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而且就像我说的,我不认为他们会降级。

And as I say, I don't think they're gonna get relegated.

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但我确实理解他们中的一些人心里在想,是的。

But I do understand that some of them are thinking, yeah.

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中立的人说‘加油’当然容易。

It's all very well neutral saying, come on.

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事情没那么糟,但我们是看他比赛的人,实际情况比其他人想的更让人提不起劲。

It's not that bad, but we're the ones who watch him, and it's more uninspiring than perhaps than than maybe what some others think.

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我觉得费尔南多·斯帕多看起来挺不错的。

I thought Fernando Spardo looked quite good.

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除了那些错失的机会,他显然,嗯,对。

Like, beyond the misses, he's clearly, like Mhmm.

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是个可以依靠的前锋。

A front man you can hang your hat on.

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我想问题只是他周围的环境。

I suppose it's just everything around him.

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我是说,我希望如此。

I mean, I hope so.

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我觉得,再说,谁……

I I think, again, who...

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你知道吗?

You know?

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我的意思是,哈维·巴恩斯,你知道,我觉得安东尼·阿兰加在的时候,这些都是有经验的主力……

I mean, Harvey Barnes is, you know, I suppose Anthony Alanga when he's in there, these are experienced primary...

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嗯,还有约翰·维瑟。

Well, Johan Wisser as well.

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确实……

It did...

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我就是觉得,需要有个东西把这一切串联起来。

I just feel that there's something that needs to link it together.

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进球是有的。

There's goals there.

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费尔南德斯·帕尔多并不是一个纯粹的中锋。

Fernandez Pardo is is is not an out and out number nine.

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他当然踢过那个位置。

He was played there, of course.

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从他的跑动来看,他确实能制造一些麻烦。

And from his movement, you can see that he can cause a bit of trouble.

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他这赛季能进纽卡斯尔需要的那些球吗?

Is he going to score the goals that Newcastle United will need this season?

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我在想,冰岛那边……

And I wonder if Iceland...

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显然,他可能还在那儿琢磨呢。

Obviously, he's probably still having a tinker there.

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维斯特勒可以稍微回撤一点。

Whistler can play slightly deeper.

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对我来说,我不确定。

For me, I don't know.

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我知道维斯特勒在纽卡斯尔还没进过球。

I I know Whistler's not scored the goals at Newcastle yet.

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如果我是维什,我希望他是那个领衔锋线的人。

I would want him to be the man leading that line if if that was me, Vish.

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我在想有没有办法重新调整一下,这样……

I wonder if there's a way of reworking that so that...

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你看,维什在回撤。

Look, Vish is dropping deep.

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这并不意味着他没有在……

It it didn't it didn't mean he wasn't doing, like...

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他拿球拿得挺好的,对。

He was holding up the ball quite well Mhmm.

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虽然只是偶尔,但他几乎是在……

In in patches, but he he was almost doing...

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他几乎是在……

He was almost...

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与其回撤,他更像是说,你干脆就待在你回撤的位置上,我们围绕你来组织,然后让前插的球员往前跑。

Rather than dropping back, he was like, why don't you just stay where you're gonna drop back to, and we can work around you, and get runners forward?

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确实感觉他们缺少一些有意义的推进力。

It did feel like they lacked a bit of meaningful thrust.

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我知道你特别喜欢有意义的推进力。

And I know you love a bit of meaningful thrust.

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周二早上说这个话有点奇怪。

It's a strange phrase to say on a Tuesday morning.

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但是

But

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通常,那是在周五晚上的舞池里说的。

Normally, that's on the Friday night on the dance floor.

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我是说……

I mean...

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或者周四晚上显然是新的周五。

Or a Thursday night is obviously the new Friday.

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确实如此。

True enough.

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确实如此。

True enough.

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嗯,他们是足球闲聊社区的元老级成员。

Well, they're the old school members of the Football Ramble community.

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卢森堡的老星期二。

Old Tuesday in Luxembourg.

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就是……

Just...

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不管你喜好什么,尽情享受吧。

Whatever you're into, you know, go nuts.

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但是……

But...

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我,我……

I I...

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你有点……

You kind of...

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你未必想回到过去的样子,但我们拥有的最好、最可行的成功蓝图——

You don't wanna necessarily hart back to how things were, but the best blue the best available successful blueprint we have -ROGER: for

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纽卡斯尔就是靠大胆的边锋。对。

Newcastle is with daring wingers Mhmm.

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中场有一个非常扎实的硬汉。

A really solid bastard of the midfield.

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而这些东西现在真的都很欠缺。

And it's just a lot of that stuff is is just lacking, really.

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而且,你知道,有没有一种说法是,其实为什么不试试让帕尔多稍微回撤一点,然后,我也不知道,赌一把奥苏拉,就是那种有速度的球员,虽然有时候像冰上小鹿一样站不稳,但他确实有勇气去突破对手。

And, you know, is it is there an argument to make that, like, actually, why don't you try Pardo a bit withdrawn and, I don't know, like, take a punt on Osula, like, someone with with that kind of pace who, you know, is at times like Bambi on ice, but does have a willingness to take on players?

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我在想,如果帕尔多和维瑟尔,他会不会试着把他们换一下位置。

I I mean, I wonder if with Pardo and Whisser, if he tries to to switch him around a bit.

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我不知道……

I don't...

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当一个回撤得深一点,另一个就往前压。

Know, when one when one drops deep, one goes.

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我不知道,我真的不知道。

I don't I don't know.

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这绝对是伊斯拉必须搞清楚的事情。

That that is definitely something that he's gonna have to figure out, the Isler.

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不过,他上面确实有选择。

But, you know, he's he's got options up there.

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而且我觉得,在国际比赛日之后,大家都盼着英超回来,也许这就是为什么你一直在背后跟维什聊的那些纽卡斯尔球迷,可能比其他人更不耐烦了。

And I and I and I think that after that international break and people were gagging for the Premier League to come back, maybe that's why some of these Newcastle United fans that you've been chatting away to, Vish, behind my back, maybe that's why they're, you know, they're they're getting further along their tether than, than maybe some others.

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考文垂城这边,弗兰克·兰帕德说他们踢出了他想要的样子,他称之为一场完美的表现。

Coventry City themselves, I mean, Frank Lampard said they played like the team that he wants them to be, and he called it a complete performance.

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看到弗兰克·兰帕德又开心了,真好。

Nice to see, Frank Lampard happy again.

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他当时……

And he was...

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那种喜悦是发自内心的,对吧?

Like, that was unfiltered joy, wasn't it?

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他的……

His...

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比赛期间和比赛结束时的那些场面。

The scenes during the game and at the end of the the end of the match.

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我觉得,尽管他们身体对抗很强,而且他们很喜欢大量出球……

I thought, you know, for all their physicality and, you know, their want of hitting the ball a lot of...

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打法更直接,但我觉得那周围有很多优雅的处理。

Being more direct, I thought there was a lot of touches of classes around that.

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我知道我们还提到了鲁多尼,他赛后接受了天空体育的采访,非常棒,他也是南伦敦的孩子。

I know we mentioned Ruddoni as well, who gave a a very, very nice, like, post match interview to to Sky Sports, South London Boy as well.

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对。

Yes.

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我记得他之前在水晶宫和AFC温布尔登的名单上短暂待过。

I think he was up briefly on the books at Crystal Palace and then AFC Wimbledon.

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没错。

That's right.

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不过,是的,他看起来确实很有水平。

But, yeah, like, he he looked a touch of class.

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我觉得,实际上,那个点球的传球,或者说导致点球的那脚传球。

I thought, actually, the ball for the penalty, or the ball that led to the penalty.

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所以布兰登·托马斯-阿桑特基本上就是,像这样,用一脚弧线球,正好传到纽卡斯尔防线身后,而且空间非常小,几乎没……

So Brandon Thomas Asante basically, like, stuns this, like, curling ball just, you know, behind the Newcastle defense with only about, like, not...

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传球的空间很小,同时前锋和门将之间的空间也很小。

A very small window to work with both to get the ball through and also between the striker and the keeper.

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霍尔尼切克应该处理得更好。

Hornichek should do better.

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但他让他……

But he makes him...

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我觉得他算是逼他犯错,然后最终上去把尤伦基放倒了。

I suppose he he kind of provokes him to make the mistake, then eventually goes on and takes out Jurenki, I think.

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但像这样的小细节,当时有很多很多。

But there were loads there were loads of little moments like that.

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你之前提到过谢里的那次射门。

You mentioned before about Sherri's finish.

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那是一次非常难完成的射门,他的触球让他偏离了球门。

That's an incredibly hard finish to take his touch takes him away from goal.

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他基本上必须把右腿绕过去,然后稳稳地把球压住,低射入远角。

And he's basically got to get his right leg around and and stun the ball and keep it low into the far corner.

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当然,球能穿过纽卡斯尔在禁区边缘的人群,这也有帮助。

Obviously, it helps that it went through the population of Newcastle on the edge of that box.

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从球门后面看那个角度,简直离谱。

Like, the angle from behind the goal is ludicrous.

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球居然没有碰到任何人的折射,真的很不可思议。

The fact that it doesn't take a single snick is crazy, really.

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但看看他们换上来的替补球员,以及他们能够保持那种强度的方式。

But look at the subs they brought on and the way they were able to, you know, maintain that intensity.

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这大概说明——不,这绝对说明兰帕德可以为此感到自豪,而且这确实要归功于他,他换上了坂本,正是坂本施压,让赫尔城丢球,促成了考文垂的第三个进球。

And that probably speaks to that well, that definitely speaks to something that that Lampard can be proud of, and certainly he can be credited with, the fact that he, you know, he brought on Sakamoto, who leads you know, who pressurizes Hull to lose to the ball for Coventry's third.

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他还能换上奥涅卡,这真是个明智的引援,对。

He's able to bring on Onyeka, which is quite a smart signing Mhmm.

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他有过英超经验,能稳住比赛节奏。

As someone who's got Premier League experience who can quiet down a game.

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而且,显然,姆富内进了那个球,但西姆斯,整个配合都发挥得很好。

And, yeah, like, obviously, Mfune gets that goal, but Sims, there's a lot of everything there that worked really well.

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至于在英超长期是否奏效,我们还不清楚。

Whether it's going to work long term in the Premier League, we don't know.

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我们只能拭目以待。

We'll just have to wait and see.

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但在周一晚上,那真是……

But on Monday night, it was...

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我是说,那太精彩了,而且他们,就像……

I mean, it was brilliant, and they, like...

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我是说,他们值得拥有所有这些烦恼……

I mean, they deserve all the headaches they're...

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他们今天早上醒来就是这个状态。

They've woken up with this morning.

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确实如此。

Very much so.

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说到替补,纽卡斯尔联在最后几分钟换上了大个子丹·伯恩。

I mean, speaking of subs, Newcastle United brought on big Dan Burn for the last few minutes.

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所以,如果他们要改善防守的话,可能需要他回来。

So they'll need him to get back, if they're gonna improve the defense, you might say.

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顺便说一句,维什,这个月是PIF收购纽卡斯尔联五周年。

And this month, by the way, Vish, marks the, the fifth anniversary of the PIF posses takeover of Newcastle United.

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你打算怎么庆祝这个?

How will you be, celebrating this?

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你会不会像很多人那样,打扮成沙特人的样子,就像当年啤酒节来的时候那样?

Will you be dressing up like a like a a Saudi man, as so many of them did when when when the beer fussy arrived?

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打扮成沙特人的样子。

Dressing up like a Saudi man.

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哦,我跟你说啊。

Oh, I tell you what.

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他们当时被看到了。

They were they were seen

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我去加满油,我去把我的车加满油。

I'll go and fill up I'll go and fill up my car.

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你看,这就是庆祝方式。

There you are.

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这就是庆祝。

The celebration.

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这就是那个……

That's the that that...

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这才对嘛。

That's the spirit.

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这也标志着五年过去了,我们最后一次在英超看到史蒂夫·布鲁斯,别忘了这一点。

It also marks five years, since we last saw Steve Bruce in the Premier League, lest we forget.

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你把它弄成……

You make it a...

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抱歉。

Sorry.

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从Piff Posse聊到我们最后一次见到史蒂夫·布鲁斯,你这么说好像我还在找他似的。

Just going from Piff Posse to the last time we saw Steve Bruce, you make it sound I was still looking for him.

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布鲁西。

Brucey.

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我希望他过得开心。

I hope he's having a lovely time.

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我希望他在重现那张照片,就是他在那个跳台上跳水的样子。

I hope he's recreating that photo where he was, diving into the On slide.

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在海里……

Sea on the...

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那是跳板,不是滑梯,当他……

It was a diving board, not a slide, when he

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他当时在跳水。

was diving it.

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他现在有工作吗?

Is he, is he employed somewhere at the moment?

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我不知道。

I don't know.

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他是不是……

Is he...

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因为我这么说是因为英格兰队……

Because the reason I say that is England have...

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英格兰板球队这个冬天有很多比赛,而他非常喜欢板球。

The England cricket team have quite a big winter ahead of him, and he loves his cricket.

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你知道的,你还记得吧。

You know, you remember Yeah.

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他自从那以后……

He's since it was...

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我记得是2022年,他为了去……推迟了接手谢菲尔德星期三队的工作。

I think it was in, 2022 where he delayed taking the Sheffield Wednesday job to go...

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说实话,这故事还挺温馨的。

To be fair, it's quite a sweet story.

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不对。

No.

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我想是更早一次,可能是2019年。

I think it was the one before that, so maybe 2019.

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他推迟接手谢菲尔德星期三队,是因为他原本安排了去……对。

He delayed taking the Sheffield Wednesday job because he he'd originally organized to go Mhmm.

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和他老爸一起去加勒比海看英格兰队的测试赛。

To watch England play test cricket in The Caribbean with this old man.

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后来他老爸去世了,他就为了纪念他老爸去了那趟旅行。

And then his old man passed away, so he did the trip in his honor.

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哎呀。

Aw.

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那不是……

That is not...

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所以是……

So it's...

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也许那张他跳水的照片就是在那儿拍的。

Maybe that's where the photo's from of him diving

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跳进去。

into it.

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嗯。

Be.

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可能就是从那儿来的。

Might be from there.

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说实话,我真以为你要说史蒂夫·布鲁斯要接管英格兰板球队呢。

Well, I I I I honestly thought you were gonna make a pitch for Steve Bruce taking control of the England cricket team.

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布鲁斯式打法。

Bruce Ball.

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喜欢。

Like it.

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培根球。

Bacon ball.

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我猜你可能是这么想的。

I thought you might.

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我猜你可能是这么想的。

I thought you might.

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对,史蒂夫·布鲁斯。

Well, Steve Bruce, yes.

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我们有一阵子没在英超看到他了。

We haven't seen him in the Premier League for a little while.

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我不确定雷吉在Instagram上问这个问题时是不是有这个想法。

I don't know, whether Reggie on Instagram had this in mind, when he was asking us this question.

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他说,现在赛季已经进行了六场比赛。

He says, now we're six games deep into the season.

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联赛垫底的球队里,你最担心哪几支?

Which clubs down the bottom of the league are you fearing for the most?

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因为考文垂城赢了纽卡斯尔,显然把伯恩茅斯挤到了倒数三名。

Because Coventry City's win against Newcastle obviously, pushed Bournemouth into the bottom three.

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考文垂排在第14位,维什,你是不是要跟我一样说富勒姆?

Coventry up in fourteenth, Vish, are you going to say Fulham like I am?

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不是。

No.

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我想把富勒姆留给你说。

I thought I'd leave you with Fulham.

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你知道,我不好对别人的家事指手画脚。

You know, far be it for me to pass judgment on someone else's house.

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所以我想说水晶宫。

So I thought I'd go with Palace.

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好的。

Okay.

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我们周一节目里稍微提过,虽然他们赢了诺丁汉森林,但表现确实不怎么样。

We mentioned it a bit on Monday's show, and I appreciate they did beat Nottingham Forest, but they looked quite bad.

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我不觉得……

I don't...

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喜欢一场3比1的胜利,虽然我们表现不好。

Love a three one win where we look bad.

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但你……

But you...

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你说得对。

You're telling me.

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我真希望曼联也能3比1赢热刺,就像他们那场比赛的风格一样。

I'd I'd love it if Manchester United beat Spurs three one after that, you know, the way they style off that match.

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但是嗯……

But Mhmm.

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那个……

The...

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他们就是……

They just...

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就像,他们赢球是因为森林队自己输了,你知道吗,

Like, they they won the game because Forest lost it, you know,

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我的看法。

my opinion.

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我懂你的意思。

I know what you mean.

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我懂

I know what

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你的意思。

you mean.

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而且我……

And I...

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而且我会……

And I'll...

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你知道,你看看他们十月份接下来的赛程。

You know, you look ahead to what they have for the rest of October.

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别忘了,这个月已经过了一半了。

Bear in mind, we're almost halfway through the month.

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他们还要打布莱顿、纽卡斯尔、富勒姆和热刺,中间还穿插着很多欧联杯的比赛。

They've still got to play Brighton, Newcastle, Fulham, and Spurs interspersed with a lot of Europa League matches.

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我明白这一点。

And I appreciate it.

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我们昨晚已经聊过纽卡斯尔有多糟糕了。

We've talked talked about how bad Newcastle were last night.

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你接下来要说说富勒姆有多差。

You're about to talk about how poor Fulham were.

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热刺呢,谁知道呢?

Spurs, who knows?

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从马贝拉回来后,他们可能还在庆祝平局,宿醉未醒呢。

After Marbella, they might be all hungover after celebrating their draw.

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布莱顿,显然是一场重大的德比战。

Brighton, obviously, huge derby match.

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而且,你知道,他们看起来就是典型的布莱顿,非常实用,非常出色。

And, you know, they they look typical Brighton, really, really functional, really good.

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但他们可能会输掉比赛。

But they could come out.

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他们可能会带着一些麻烦进入十一月。

They could go into November in a bit of strife.

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谁知道呢,塞尔吉可能会丢掉工作,考虑到所有那些……

And who knows, Serge might be out of the job, given all the con...

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国际比赛日之前发生的那些讨论。

All the conversations that were happening before the international break.

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但他们是一支我确实担心会出问题的球队。

But they're they're a team that, I've got an eye on for one to be worried about, certainly.

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好吧,如果富勒姆足球俱乐部的高层有人在听,请现在就开始行动吧。

Well, if anybody who is in the hierarchy of Fulham Football Club is listening, please start now.

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要有野心,去争取埃迪·豪。

Be ambitious and go for Eddie Howe.

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如果不行,我觉得这个更现实,让我们把兄弟布伦迪带回英超吧。

And if not, and I think this is more realistic, let's bring brother, Brendy, home back to the Premier League.

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来吧。

Come on.

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这两个你更倾向谁?

Who would you prefer out of the two?

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现实点说,埃迪·豪不会去富勒姆。

Realistically, Eddie Howe is not gonna go to Fulham.

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他可能会,我想,先休息一段时间,然后可能会有更大的工作机会出现,你懂的。

He's going to probably, I would imagine, have a bit of a break from football, and then a bigger job would probably present itself, you would think.

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那哪家俱乐部……

So which club...

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只是,不是……

Just, not...

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我不是故意要为难你,但你觉得那个更大的工作是什么?

I don't mean to put you on the spot, but, like, what is that bigger job?

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所以……

So...

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嗯,就是那种和他之前在纽卡斯尔时目标相似的俱乐部。

Well, a club who have similar ambitions to his Newcastle side when he was there.

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可能是热刺这样的俱乐部?

A club Spurs, potentially?

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我不是说塞尔维亚是……

Like, I'm not saying that the Serbia is

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嗯,一个俱乐部……

Well, a a club

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像那样的俱乐部?

who who it like that?

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嗯,就是那种有现实目标争取欧洲赛事的俱乐部。

Well, a club who have realistic ambitions of achieving European football.

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而且他们可能不会……

And and and they may not...

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在……

In in...

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所以就拿热刺来说吧,我觉得德泽尔比在那里应该没问题,但咱们就拿热刺当例子。

So in the case of Spurs, I mean, I think Deserve be safe there, but let's take Spurs.

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热刺的表现,虽然他们在老特拉福德踢得更好,而且尽管他们的联赛排名,他们仍然有一支球队,如果你能让他们发挥出来,他们本赛季可以进入欧战席位。

Spurs, their, performances, even though they were better at Old Trafford, of course, and despite their league position, they still have a squad that you get them playing, they could finish in the European spots this season.

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我不认为他们会进入欧冠,但我认为很明显热刺的阵容比富勒姆更有天赋,这就是为什么豪会……

I don't think they'll be finishing in the Champions League, but I think that quite clearly Spurs have a more talented squad than, say, Fulham, for example, which is why Howe would be...

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比如,如果我们的主教练真的被解雇,说实话,如果这种情况继续下去,你会说他的处境已经非常非常危险了。

Like, if indeed our belower is to be sacked, which, to be honest, if this carries on, like, you would say that the writing is very, very close to being on the wall for him.

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但如果豪是自由身,你知道,考虑到豪在纽卡斯尔所做的,他们经常参加欧冠。

But if if Howe is free, you know, considering what Howe did with Newcastle, they were playing in the Champions League semi regularly.

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他们想升级。

They wanna league up.

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这比富勒姆历史上所取得的成就稍微高一点。

It is a little bit above what what what Fulham, have have...

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说实话,富勒姆历史上并没有达到过这个水平。

Well, have done in their history, quite frankly.

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即使在席尔瓦的带领下,他也差点带队进入欧洲赛场。

Even though under Silver, Silver was close to getting them into Europe.

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所以我觉得像这样的人……

Or so I think somebody like...

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我知道,我经常开玩笑说布伦丹·罗杰斯。

I mean, I know, obviously, I sort of joke around and say Brendan Rodgers.

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但如果布伦丹·罗杰斯想回来,而阿贝洛亚已经被解雇了,这里有很多假设,但如果富勒姆请来布伦丹·罗杰斯,我不会担心他们降级。

But if, say, Brendan Rodgers fancied coming back and Arbello has been sacked, there's a lot of ifs and buts here, I wouldn't worry about relegation if Fulham got in Brendan Rodgers.

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而且我觉得如果阿贝洛亚的情况继续恶化,你必须尽快做出决定,因为你会想,哦,再看看情况吧。

And I think that if it does keep going badly for Arboloa, you have to pull the trigger reasonably soon because you go, oh, well, let's see it.

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再给他一个一月的转会窗口之类的。

Let's give him another January transfer window and so on.

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如果接下来一个月左右还没有改善,就目前这个趋势和他做的这些事来看,我看不出有什么好转的可能。

If it's not improved in the next month or so, just the the way it's going and what he's doing, I can't see that improving.

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所以你还不如干脆说,行吧。

So you might as well write, okay.

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咱们找个新教练来,正好赶上即将到来的一月转会窗口,而且你得找一个大家一看就觉得‘嗯,这下应该没问题了’的人。

Let's get a new manager in who has an incoming January transfer window, you know, soon enough, and you need to get someone who you appoint and everyone goes, oh, they should be okay now.

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这就是你该做的。

That's what that's what you gotta do.

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所以,我是说,水晶宫可能很快也会陷入这种局面,但我觉得……

So, I mean, Palace may well find themselves in that situation soonish, but I don't think...

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因为他们这个赛季确实赢了几场球。

Because they've quite literally picked up some wins this season.

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你知道吗?

You know?

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你知道,我知道伯恩茅斯没赢,但我不确定。

You know, I know Bournemouth haven't, but I don't know.

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再说一次,伯恩茅斯的球迷可能会觉得我在胡说八道,但我觉得他们有点不走运,他们的表现其实比成绩看起来要好。

Again, Bournemouth fans might think I'm talking absolute total here, but I feel that they've been a little bit unlucky, and they've been better than what some of their results have suggested.

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但就像我之前说的,纽卡斯尔联队的情况可能也是这样。

But as I was saying earlier, with Newcastle United, it could be a case with that.

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所以,伯恩茅斯的球迷们,如果我说了这些,请原谅我。

So, you know, forgive me, Bournemouth fans if I'm if I'm doing that.

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在我看来,富勒姆才是真正陷入困境的球队。

To me, Fulham are the ones who are really struggling.

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赫尔城表现得很好。

Hull City have been great.

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伊普斯维奇,刚刚击败了富勒姆,正在崛起。

Ipswich, just beat full of growing out.

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他们他们他们他们……

They they they they...

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你知道,他们赢了一些比赛。

You know, they got some some wins.

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而且赫尔城,你看他们赛季开始的表现,很难想象他们会降级。

And Hull City, you can't imagine them getting relegated the way they've started the season.

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所以这……

So it it...

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这真的是……

It's it is...

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这个赛季英超联赛的保级区会非常残酷。

It's gonna be cutthroat at the bottom of the Premier League this season.

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就像我说的,不会有任人宰割的弱队。

As I say, there's gonna be no whipping boys.

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所以如果你在保级区,你得调整一下自己的预期了。

So you've got to now adjust your sights accordingly if you're down there.

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我觉得富勒姆就是这样的球队,因为目前的情况,而且他们搞了个西班牙式的实验,可以说是。

And I think Fulham are the ones because of how it's been going, and it was a total experiment with this sort of Spanish experiment, if you like.

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他们引进的球员,非常年轻,而且相比之下身体很单薄,跟考文垂那种注重身体对抗的做法完全相反。

The players they brought in, very young and very slight in comparison, the opposite of what Coventry have done with the physicality.

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到目前为止,是的,还早,但到目前为止,除了偶尔有那么二十分钟的闪光表现,基本上没什么效果。

And so far, yes, early days, but so far, it's not been working really at all other than the odd sort of twenty minute spell here and there.

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但就像我之前说的,任何球队,任何英超球队,都能打出二十分钟的好球。

But as I said before, anybody, any team in the Premier League is capable of putting a twenty minute spell together.

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这些该死的西班牙人。

Bloody Spaniards.

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太信任他们了。

Trust them too much.

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我们都以为自己是伊涅斯塔。

All us have the Iniesta.

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我知道。

I know.

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也许他需要换上……

Maybe he needs to put...

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也许富勒姆该把球衣换成西班牙队的,那样的话,我们就能踢出来了。

Maybe Fulham needs to change their kit to Spain kits, and then and then then we can do it.

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所以西班牙球衣,小盘子,踢……

So Spain kit, smaller plates, play...

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真的没法

Can't really

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踢出雄心壮志。

play ambitions.

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真的没法踢下午三点的开球,因为那时候你还在睡觉。

Can't really play three PM's kickoffs because you'll be asleep then.

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把比赛改到晚上十一点开始吧。

Start playing your games at 11PM.

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就是这样。

There we are.

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就是这样。

There we are.

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不过,西班牙球衣唯一的问题是,我觉得这有点背叛,毕竟我们和他们分在同一个国家联赛小组。

The only problem with the Spain kits, though, I feel that's quite treacherous considering when the the same Nations League group as them.

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所以……

So...

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不过,总之,这些事还得再讨论。

But, anyway, discussions to be had there.

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说得好。

Good point.

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讲得不错。

Well made.

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感谢收听《足球漫谈》,本节目属于Acast创作者网络。

Thanks for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the Acast Creator Network.

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我和维什明天会和大卫·卡特利奇一起,回顾今晚所有欧冠比赛的情况。

Vish and I will be back with David Cartledge tomorrow to react to all the Champions League action that is happening this evening.

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当然,曼联客场对阵马竞,阿森纳主场迎战里尔,这只是其中两场比赛。

Manchester United in action, of course, away to Atletico and Arsenal at home to Lille are just two fixtures that are happening.

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如果你想了解更多,那就自己去搜吧。

If you want to know more, then Google it yourself.

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爱你们。

Lots of love.

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我们明天见。

We'll see you tomorrow.

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现在就先这样吧。

For now.

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《足球漫谈》是Stak制作,属于Acast创作者网络的一部分。

The Football Ramble is a Stak production and part of the Acast Creator Network.

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