Giant Bombcast 944：I LOVE LA

大家好。

Hey, everybody.

你们看到这段的时候是6月9日星期二，但我们这儿还是6月7日。

It's Tuesday, June 9 when you're seeing this, but it's still June 7 for us over here.

我们这儿还在洛杉矶，阳光明媚，正赶着夏季游戏展呢。

We're still down in sunny Los Angeles for Summer Game Fest.

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Welcome to the Giant Bombcast.

我是你们的主持人，简·奥乔亚。

I'm your host, Jan Ochoa.

和我一起主持的是我们的联合主持人，Jeff Grub，他正穿梭在时间里砍砍杀杀。

Joining me, co captain of the ship, slicing and dicing through time.

杰夫·格鲁布。

Jeff Grub.

唰啦唰啦。

Shink shank shank.

我就在这儿闲逛着。

I'm just over here hanging out.

能活着真好。

I'm glad to be alive.

说到活着，他现在在这儿听着，满屋子翻跟头呢。

Speaking about being alive, he's he's listening and doing cartwheels all over this studio.

他正在拖地。

He's mopping the floors.

他回家后还要把那边那个漂亮的杯子擦干净。

He's gonna clean up that beautiful mug over there at home.

威尔·克罗斯比。

Will Crosby.

是我。

It's me.

我两个髋关节都摔断了。

I broke both my hips.

说到他的髋部，那可是真话不会骗人。

Speaking about his hips, his hips don't lie.

他从不说假话，总是面带微笑，直视你的眼睛。

He tells nothing but truths and he'll always smile and look you in the eye.

杰夫·巴卡拉。

Jeff Baccalaure.

是的。

Yeah.

这可不是段子，你真的快不行了。

So this isn't a bit, you're dying.

不是。

No.

我没事，真的。

I just I'm okay.

我只是……说不上来。

I'm just I don't know.

他从来不会在没事的时候说‘我没事’。

He's never said I'm okay when he's okay.

确实如此。

That's true.

就是说，这其实只是……

It it's just

在艾比、亚历克斯、格雷格和乔丹那段之后，我才真正意识到。

it really started to hit me after the Abby and Alex and Greg and Jordan Yeah.

还有帕特里克那段之后。

And Patrick segment

那时候人都没在。

people weren't here.

有那么一瞬间，我脑子里突然想，该不会那天是星期五吧。

For a second it was like it was like my mind was like, maybe that was Friday.

该不会那天是星期五吧。

Maybe that was Friday.

是的。

Yeah.

不知道怎么回事。

Don't know what's going on.

我觉得可能是多种因素综合起来。

I think it's a combination of just like.

时差。

Jet lag.

对。

Yeah.

大概是吧。

I guess.

以前我总笑话那些抱怨三小时时差的人，现在才知道他们说得对。

You know, I used to make fun of people who complained about the three hour time difference but they're fucking right.

太难受了。

It's awful.

这确实有影响。

It does something.

我飞过来这边，之前也刚旅行过。

I'm flying over here and I traveled too.

是的。

Yeah.

我明白。

I know.

我们都在琢磨这是为什么。

We're all trying to figure out why.

对，没错。

I yeah.

然后我今晚又要赶红眼航班回去，我真的不知道该怎么办了。

So and then I'm flying back tonight for a red eye and I just I don't know.

人总会犯错的。

Mistakes are made.

你会没事的。

You're gonna be okay.

是的。

Yeah.

我们让肖恩负责那边的节奏部分。

We got Sean producing behind the ones and twos over there.

嗨，肖恩。

Hi, Sean.

这是他第一次上阵。

Sporting for the first time.

对。

Yeah.

就这样了。

There we go.

没人会知道的。

No one will ever know.

迈克和丹出去执行任务了。

Mike and Dan are out on assignment.

他们在洛杉矶到处跑。

They're just running around LA.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

他们连电子游戏都没碰。

They're not even seeing video games.

没有。

No.

他们还说，嘿，咱们去转转，看能不能被人抢劫。

They're like they're like, hey, let's go see if we can get mugged.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

哦。

Oh.

你听说了吗？我和Chuck得陪着Dan去了一趟酒类商店。

Did you hear that Chuck and I had to escort Dan to a liquor store?

什么？

Sorry?

我们得陪着Dan去酒类商店，我也不知道他为啥没找你。

We had to escort Dan to a liquor store because I I don't know why he didn't hit you up.

是的。

Yeah.

所以得两个人才能替代他。

So it takes two people to replace

你。

you.

不错。

Cool.

是的。

Yeah.

然后我们就直接走去便利店了，我跟丹说：‘你其实可以直接走过来，就隔一个街区而已。’

And then we just walked to a liquor store and then I asked like, Dan, you could have just walked here, it was a block away.

他说：‘那要是出了什么事怎么办？’

It's like, well you know, what if something happens?

就一个人嘛。

Well, one.

什么事都没发生。

Nothing happened.

什么事都没发生。

Nothing happened.

要是真出了事怎么办？

What if something happened?

我们就会继续往前走。

We we'd move on.

洛杉矶这段时间挺舒服的。

LA's been pleasant.

我们填补了这个位置。

We filled the role

排队。

line.

我

I

我喜欢洛杉矶。

love LA.

是的。

Yeah.

他们就是这么说的。

That's what they say.

咱们用一首歌给他们来个惊喜。

We'll hit them with a song.

我喜欢

I love

洛杉矶每一处。

LA each.

美极了。

It's beautiful.

不过关于夏日游戏节，咱们还不能多说。

We can't talk much about Summer Game Fest though,

格雷格。

Greg.

迈克说Piko Park挺有意思的。

Mike said that Piko Park is neat.

索尼克皮可公园。

Sonic Piko Park.

索尼克皮可公园。

Sonic Piko Park.

谢谢。

Thank you.

对。

Yes.

然后丹列了个他想玩的游戏清单。

And then Dan's, like, got a list of games he wants.

他特别期待的那个，但他说现在还不能提，得到今年晚些时候才行。

The one he's been really excited about, but he was like, we just can't talk about it until, like, literally later this year.

太疯狂了。

It's nuts.

他们这么做挺奇怪的，因为我听说好多保密协议都是七月份左右才解禁。

It's weird that they're doing that because like I've heard a lot of the embargoes are like hitting around July July.

如果不是更晚的话。

If not later later.

对。

Yes.

我的意思是，他们可能会像那些巡回马戏团一样，跑去欧洲搞活动之类的。

I mean they're just gonna take the it's like some of these traveling circuses and go out and do it in Europe or something like that.

但这确实让事情没那么有劲了，不管怎样。

But it does take the air out of the balloon a little bit here whatever

这种说法几乎让人觉得这不是个媒体宣传的事。

It the saying almost makes it like not a press thing.

这整个目的不就是这个吗？它反而削弱了那种——我们之前聊过这个。

It's like the whole purpose of this, right, is that and it sort of extracts the I I don't We talked about this.

我想不起来我们是什么时候聊过这个了。

I can't remember when we just discussed this.

可能只是

It might have just

15岁的话，会是谁呢？

been Who 15 could

谁能知道呢？

Who could know?

但就是感觉一切都乱了节奏。

But everything just feels out of sync.

感觉各个实体之间好像没在好好沟通，但也不是故意的。

It feels like entities are not communicating, not in a nefarious way.

迈克·马纳伊听到了那些实体的声音，然后被它们影响了。

Mike Manai hears the entities and he's infected by him.

对。

Yes.

这不是真的。

It's not real.

树须。

Treebeards.

巨大的，是的。

Giant Yes.

对。

Yeah.

一切都显得乱七八糟，感觉特别低效。

Everything just seems discombobulated in a way that's like this is inefficient.

我猜他们自己觉得这样效率很高。

It's it's I bet it's I bet they think it's very efficient for them.

我猜他们不会再这样干了。

I bet they don't do it again this way year.

是的。

Yeah.

我猜会不一样。

I bet it's different.

因为他们以前也从来没这样干过，这么支离破碎的。

Because they've also never done it this way where it's been so disjointed.

是的。

Yeah.

我真的很心疼，毕竟我们每个人都得来，因为我们是在办一场演出。

I feel really bad for like, it makes sense for all of us to come because we're putting on a show.

对。

Yeah.

我们各自都有来的原因。

We have our own reasons for coming.

是的。

Yeah.

我们得全员到位。

We need all hands on deck.

再说你看，Kinda Funny 派了格雷格来，还让安迪过来帮忙，但如果你是个自由撰稿人或者游戏媒体人，从外州赶过来，真很难说服自己值不值得跑这一趟，毕竟现在这情况太乱了。

And then you know, we see Kinda Funny sending Greg and then blessing Andy for a But day or if you're like a freelance journo or games media person, and you're traveling from out of state, it's really hard to justify the way over here because of how things are.

没错。

Right.

我觉得Xbox搞过一个粉丝活动，那不是给媒体看的。

I guess like Xbox had like their fan fest thing, that is not like a press thing.

你去那儿不是为了看那个活动的。

You don't go there to watch that thing.

我可以聊聊我们看过的那些展示。

I can talk about some of the showcases we've seen.

我想提一件事，这事儿可能会让我的朋友肖恩心情变差。

I did wanna bring up one thing and it is gonna bring the mood down for my friend Sean over here.

你们有没有注意到《疯狂出租车》公布之后发生了什么？

You Have guys seen what's happened with Crazy Taxi since it got announced?

我听说迈克和肖恩在聊这个事。

I heard Mike and Sean talking about it.

是的。

Yeah.

他们说，正在用生成式AI来辅助这款游戏。

So they they're saying, hey, we're using generative AI to help with this game.

大家本来兴奋得不行，现在一下子都泄气了。

And so everyone's like going from being super excited to be like, damn it.

别闹了。

No, come on.

我们真不想让这款我们期待已久的游戏沾上这事儿。

We just didn't wanna have to think about it for this game that we were really looking forward to.

他们早该在预告片里提一句的。

They should have put that in the trailer.

是啊。

Yeah.

早该直接说清楚，嘿。

Should have been just like, hey.

那他们用AI是做啥的？

Well are they using AI two.

对。

Yeah.

你抢先说了。

Beat me to it.

不好意思。

Sorry.

他们用的是AI二吗？

Are they using AI two for it?

是的，有可能。

Yeah, maybe.

就是先出现AI，然后突然间T和X冒出来，就成了taxi，那多好。

Like, just the AI and then all of a sudden like the t and the x come in and it's like taxi, that would have been

哦，这主意不错。

Oh, that's good.

这主意

That's

发封邮件吧。

Send an email.

是的。

Yeah.

你

You

知道的。

know.

发出去吧，兄弟。

Send it bro.

再见。

Bye.

明年我还会在这儿等AI税。

I'll be here for next year's AI tax.

又是离谱的税。

Crazy tax again.

对。

Yeah.

我确实从家里带了一堆东西过来，我们都拆开了。

I I did get I did bring like a bunch of stuff from home that that we unwrapped.

我不确定什么时候会拍成视频什么的，但我们会弄出点相关的素材。

I don't know when that's gonna be a video or whatever, but we'll we'll get something with that.

不过我留了一样东西没拆。

But I did leave one thing.

这是一个问号，据说是路易斯·加西亚送的。

It's this question mark from I believe this is from Louis Garcia.

那我也一起打开吧。

So I'm gonna open that as well.

让我看看。

Let's see here.

上面全是问号。

It's got question marks on it.

卡片上写着：表示同情。

In sympathy is what the card says.

哦。

Oh.

不久后见，来自巴兰。

See you soon from Balan.

好吧。

Okay.

这可真吓人。

Well, that's terrifying.

我觉得迟早会有粉丝拿《巴兰奇幻世界》来搞恶搞视频。

I think we're gonna be bladed with Balan Wonderworld by the fans at some point.

这是威胁吗？

Is that a threat?

这确实是认真的威胁。

It's a it's a real threat.

我其实玩过《巴兰奇幻世界》，没想到它还没上过《瘟疫俱乐部》。

I've actually played Balan Wonderworld, and it's surprising it hasn't been on Blight Club yet.

但附带的游戏是《小 dragons 咖啡馆》。

But the game that came with it is Little Dragon Cafe.

你知道这是什么吗？

What do you know what that is?

完全没听说过？

No idea?

我真不知道这是什么游戏。

I have no idea what that is.

所以，谢谢你也骂你，路易斯。

So thank you and fuck you, Louis.

是的。

Yeah.

各位，这期播客通常会短一点。

Folks, normally it's gonna be a little shorter pod.

我们都挺累的，还有好多事没做完。

We're all pretty exhausted and we got a bunch of stuff to still do.

是的。

Yeah.

我们还是要去参加游戏日。

Are gonna go

还是要去玩一玩。

to Play Days still.

对。

Yeah.

我们所有人都去。

All of us here.

我们肯定会去看这些游戏的。

We're gonna we are gonna go see these games Yeah.

聊一聊那一天的事。

Talk about one day.

到目前为止，除了遇到朋友之外，我最期待的就是游戏日了。

You know my highlight of Play Days so far besides running into friends and everything Yeah.

所有这些花哨的东西。

All that jazz.

他们准备了一些小橄榄当零食。

They had these little snack olives guys.

是啊。

Oh, yeah.

没错。

They did.

一袋橄榄。

Bag of olives.

橄榄袋子。

Olive bags.

太棒了。

Super sick.

那些黄瓜味的薯片也不赖。

And those cucumber potato chips were not bad.

我还没试过那些。

I haven't tried those.

冻干的吉德尔。

The freeze dried Giddles.

吉德尔这东西，丹后来也接受了，但确实挺怪的。

Giddles were Dan came around on them eventually, but they're weird.

我不会去碰这些东西。

I don't like wouldn't try any of this.

想到丹吃Hi-Chews就让人受不了。

A horror of Dan eating hi chews.

哦。

Oh.

我们

We

哦。

Oh.

就像浣熊一样，没人看见的时候，它在垃圾桶里是怎么吃东西的。

Like like an actual raccoon like, when no one's looking how a raccoon must eat in a dumpster.

那场面就像……

It was like

就两只小手在那儿忙活。

Just two little hands.

他吃的时候完全像在拼命，好像不吃这药，心脏马上就要停了。

It was just so into like and he ate it in a way where like if he didn't have this medicine he was going to go into cardiac arrest.

是的。

Yeah.

他非得靠这个活命，可没人肯把药让给他。

Like he needed it to survive and I I No one's taking

没人会从他手里抢走。

them from him.

对。

No.

我们真没夸张，根本不是在夸大其词。

I can't even We're not even like exaggerating.

就像包装纸刚开始打开，他一边拆一边往嘴里塞。

It was like a up starting to unwrap, shoving it into the mouth as it unwraps.

但包装纸根本没打开。

But the wrapper's not unwrapping.

所以他就是直接

So he's just like

肖恩，你看到这一幕了吗？

Sean, did you see any of this?

对。

Yeah.

太恶心了。

Was gross.

就好像他在拆一包扑克牌，然后直接把牌全塞进嘴里。

It was kinda like he was cracking open a pack of cards and then shoving them directly into his mouth.

就是

Which is

打开宝可梦卡的方式。

how you open Pokemon cards.

对。

Yes.

所以

So

就像有人，你知道的，像个宇航员，缺氧了，突然找到一袋氧气，立马就

Like in a way that like it was almost like someone, you know, like an astronaut who who needed oxygen and found like a bag with oxygen and was just like

在沙漠里，

In the desert,

他找到了水。

he found the water.

是的。

Yeah.

就像他在水下成了刺猬索尼克一样。

Like he was Sonic the Hedgehog underwater Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

简直吓人极了。

Like it was it was horrifying.

是啊。

Yeah.

他还把整个包装纸整个塞进嘴里，天知道那东西从哪儿来的。

And and he's and he's putting the entire wrapper, which God knows where it was.

然后他说

And he says

嘴。

mouth.

这到底是什么意思？

What does that mean?

他们他们

They they

这是骄傲

It's pride

月份。

month.

来吧。

Come

好了。

on.

它

It

那简直太疯狂了，老兄。

was it was was fucking crazy, man.

是的。

Yeah.

就是纯粹的疯了。

Just straight up fucking crazy.

好了，别再说丹的事了。

But enough of Dan.

对。

Yeah.

到现在，我们已经看了State of Play、SGF展示，还有Xbox的发布会。

At this point, we've seen State of Play, the SGF showcase, and now the Xbox one.

任天堂的发布会是不是也出了？Grub？

The Nintendo one might have happened, Grub?

可能出了吧，是的。

Might have happened, yeah.

《塞尔达：时之笛》好像公布了什么消息。

Zelda, Ocarina of Time got announced or something.

谁能说得准呢？

Who could say?

不过，这确实挺让人失望的。

But, yeah, that that's that's the bummer of this.

我们接下来要出门旅行了。

We are gonna be traveling.

我们本来想在这儿聊聊，但之后会有大量相关报道。

We wish we could talk about it here, but we'll have plenty of coverage.

我们到时候会做个专门的讨论。

We'll have some sort of talk over.

你们这一周有没有什么特别值得关注的亮点？

We'll Any figure that highlights from y'all from the week?

最搞笑的一件事是，嗯。

Well, the funniest thing Yeah.

在游戏展上，有人跟我提过这事，我也没想到，大家都会以为是巴格勒想借机插话。

Is that of everything there at playdays And someone said this to me, I did not Everyone's gonna be like, oh, is just Baggler trying to pinball his way into a conversation.

不是这样的。

No.

是的

Yeah.

人们真正能聊得起来的，也就只有这个变形金刚弹珠机了。

One of the only things people can actually like realistically talk about is the transformers pinball.

哦，还没做完呢。

Oh, Super not even finished.

这其实就是个原型机。

It's like, yeah, it's a prototype.

对啊

Yeah.

这是独一无二的。

I mean, it's a one of one.

所以说，它就是那个原型样机。

So it's like the prototype one.

它已经很接近量产版本了。

It is close to a production unit.

当然。

Sure.

只是

There's just

不过有个问题，就是说。

the caveat of like, hey.

而且这东西真的很棒。

And it's it's really good.

真的特别棒。

It's really good.

我其实比玩那款没玩过的宝可梦游戏时还要印象深刻。

I actually was really impressed even more so than with the Pokemon game that I hadn't played before.

而且它的射击手感特别好。

But like, it shoots really well.

设计特别聪明。

It's super smart.

里面的东西可真多。

It's got a lot of toys.

游戏里的过场动画太棒了。

The cinematics in it.

你是在哪儿看到的？

Where did you see?

过场动画啊，或者像亚历克斯，我们当时和纳瓦罗一起在那儿，对。

Cinematics or like Alex, we were there with Navarro and Yeah.

还有米纳蒂，他们剪的那段视频看起来特别特别棒。

And Minati and it just the the video that they grabbed for it looks really really good.

贝利说她特别特别喜欢。

Bailey said she was super duper into it.

太棒了。

It's awesome.

它真是

It's It's

文尼会接受这个吗？

Is is Vinny gonna be okay with this?

他是会喜欢吧？

Like, he's gonna like it?

我觉得他肯定会特别投入，他本来就对这个特别有热情。

I mean, I feel like he's gonna He's so sort of like passionate about it.

他会不高兴的。

He's gonna upset.

总有什么事会让他不爽。

Like, something's gonna upset him.

我不清楚到底啥会让他不高兴。

I don't know what's gonna upset Yeah.

我觉得那个压缩后的俯视图里，擎天柱看起来太臃肿了，估计大家都得炸毛。

I think like the Optimus Prime being looking real chunky in that compressed sort of top down view, I think everyone's nerves are gonna

但

be But

但弹珠本身不会是问题。

but like the pinball won't be the problem.

不会。

No.

弹珠现在还行。

The pinball's not yet.

我觉得主题设计也不差，你知道的。

I don't think and I don't think the theming like is bad, you know.

对我来说，我根本不在意那些法国号。

I For me it's like I couldn't care about Right.

但它射击体验真的特别棒。

French horns but it shoots really really well.

它的坡道设计也很酷，

It's got really cool ramps and

没错。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

这玩意儿太棒了。

It's dope.

它有什么特别的 gimmick 吗？

What's it's like gimmick?

有什么不一样的地方？

What's What's different?

我觉得没什么特别出彩的地方。

It's there's nothing I don't think there's anything like super standout.

好像从来没哪款游戏这么做过。

It's like, oh, no game's ever done this before.

就是有很多很有创意的击球方式，有趣的掉落目标、阻挡轨道之类的，还有滑道，整体感觉是个射击体验很棒的游戏。

It's just got a lot of like really inventive shots, fun drop targets like blocking rails and stuff like that and ramps like seems like a really good shooting game.

不错。

Nice.