笑谈戈尔吉娜、八卦坑和陪审义务

你可以笑一笑。

You could smile.

你不是玩得不开心吗？

What are Are you not having a good time?

我确实上了我的TikTok。

I did get on my TikTok.

有人问：那些尺码为8的女生都去哪儿了？

Someone was like, where have all the size eights gone?

嗯。

Mhmm.

我说，亲爱的，我一直都在这儿。

And I said, babe, I've been here.

到底怎么了，难道连一点骨气都没有了吗？

Whatever happened to having some ovaries?

你知道我总是会想到什么吗？

You know what I always think about?

我想说那是2013年，当时是杰西卡·辛普森。

And I wanna say it was, like, 2013, and it was Jessica Simpson.

我觉得她刚生完孩子，

I think she had, like, just had a baby,

就

like, a

一个月前。

month prior.

他们攻击了她。

And they attacked her.

现在你再看那些照片，就会说，她才六码，你真是大惊小怪。

And, like, you look at those pictures now, and you're, so she was a size six, you freak.

关于艾米·舒默拍那些电影的时候，也闹过不少风波。

There was drama too about, like, Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies.

她自己说，我是那个丑陋的胖女孩。

And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl.

大家都说，你是个美丽的金发女郎，是的。

And everyone's like, you are beautiful blonde Yeah.

八号身材。

Size eight.

是的。

Yeah.

大家都说，看看这个胖女孩竟然当主角。

And everyone's like, look at this fat girl who's starring.

不是。

No.

太疯狂了。

It's crazy.

主演一部电影。

Starring in a movie.

疯狂的房子。

Crazy house.

谢天谢地她很幽默，因为如果她不搞笑，没人会给她任何机会。

Thank god she's funny because if she wasn't funny, no one would put her anywhere.

确实如此。

It's so true.

艾米不得不扮演那种角色，但这就是《Giggly Squad》的主旨。

And Amy had to play the, like But that is what Giggly Squad is about.

我不愿这么说，但我对这些搞笑女郎确实有偏见，但她们就是一群特别漂亮又搞笑的女性，而且都听我们的播客。

And I hate to say it, and I'm so biased about the gigglers, but it's just a bunch of, like, really hot, funny women who listen to our pod.

我做过调查。

And I've done the research.

我待过洗手间。

I've been in the bathroom.

我看到谁进来跟我打招呼。

I see who comes in and says hi to me.

有人在公共洗手间里认出我，说我是艾米·波勒。

Someone said that me in public bathrooms is Amy Poehler.

格蕾丝转发了艾米·波勒戴着杰里米帽子的照片。

Grace reposted Amy Poehler wearing the Jeremy hat.

不管怎样，我在浴室里见你们。

It's me in the anyway, I'll see you guys in the bathroom.

总之。

Anyhoo.

等等。

Wait.

上一期我提到的那对夫妻，因为丈夫出轨而分手了。

That couple I was talking about last episode that broke up because the husband cheated.

他们简直就是一对TikTok情侣。

They're, like, a TikTok couple.

他们发帖的时候，我并没有特别关注这对夫妻，但我确实在TikTok上听说过他们。

I wasn't, like, fully invested in the couple when they were posting, but I knew of them on TikTok, whatever.

她会发一些可爱又搞笑的视频，比如去鞋店，说：‘我要买这双新鞋了。’

And she would post cute, like, funny videos of, like she would go to, like, a shoe store and be like, oh, I'm getting these new shoes.

然后她就会跑过走廊，说：哦，好吧。

And then she would just, like, run down the aisle and be like, oh, okay.

是的。

Yeah.

我要买下它们。

I'm gonna get them.

就是一些愚蠢的小视频。

Like, stupid little videos.

后来发现，她从14岁就开始交往的丈夫，他们刚发过一条帖子，说他们在一起的时间比分开的时间还长。

So it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old, they had, like, just done a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart.

他们一起有两个孩子，结果爆出他出轨了。

They have two kids together, comes out that he had cheated on her.

她立刻提出了离婚。

She immediately files for divorce.

她已经彻底离开了。

Like, she's gone.

互联网上的人和女性都说，你应该向她学习。

The Internet's like and women, like, you should take a page out of her book.

这才是果断立刻离开的正确做法。

That's how you do absolutely leave immediately.

别评判女性如何处理她们和男人的关系。

Stop judging how women deal with their men.

不过，Anyway，继续说吧。

But anyway, continue.

Nada，24小时后，互联网对她的态度完全反转了。

Nada, twenty four hours later, the Internet had complete completely flipped on her.

其实她很烦人，她的视频从来都不好笑。

Well, she's actually annoying, and her videos were never funny.

想象一下，娶了她还得应付这种事。

Imagine being married to her and having to deal with that.

她才是问题所在。

She's the problem.

女人们都说，她一年能赚一千万。

And the women were like, she makes like 10 mil a year.

我肯定他在几个视频里还笑得挺开心的。

I'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos.

她们的态度完全反转了。

They have completely flipped on her.

现在大家都觉得，他 probably 就是被逼得实在忍无可忍，所以才出轨的。

And now it's like, well, he probably just like got really annoyed and that's why he cheated.

所以，我能理解。

So, like, I get it.

这已经是我们的第二集变得乱七八糟了，但算法真的在控制我们的生活。

Not as this is our second episode getting messy, but, like, the algorithms are controlling our lives.

太吓人了。

It's so scary.

而且当人们甚至都不太在乎的时候。

And the when people people aren't even, I don't think, care that much.

他们只是想要关注。

They just want attention.

所以当他们看到有人跟风时，就会发一些负面的、愤怒的言论攻击别人，因为他们知道这能带来流量。

So when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon, they will post, like, this bad, like, angry take on someone because they know it'll get views.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我们陷入了一种愤怒经济，谁先出来指责别人，谁就能获得最多的浏览量。

So we're in this, like, anger economy of, like, whoever's calling people out gets the most views.

结果你一不留神，所有人都在互相攻击，就像一场内战。

And it's like, the next thing know, everyone's just attacking everyone and it's a civil war.

好吧。

Okay.

这就是为什么我喜欢艾米。

That's why, like, I love Amy Yeah.

那就是

That's

不。

no.

所以我特别高兴艾米·波勒赢得了金球奖，因为她的播客节目真的是一场真正的彩虹。

That's why I'm so happy Amy Polar won the Golden Globe because her hour of her podcast truly is a true Rainbows.

彩虹。

Rainbows.

棒棒糖。

Lollipops.

快乐。

Joy.

是的。

Yes.

接下来安排的是什么？

What's next on the docket?

我有很多。

I have a lot.

好的。

Okay.

这会让你生气。

This is gonna piss you off.

你听说过《怪奇物语》的争议吗？

Have you heard the Stranger Things drama?

没有。

No.

是什么？

What is it?

所以我还没看过。

So I haven't watched it.

我在第一季第二集之后就停了。

I stopped after season one episode two.

是的。

So yeah.

我看到第二季就停了。

I stopped after, I think, season two.

但我当然支持米莉·博比·布朗。

But I support Millie Bob Brown, obviously.

最后一集，尤其是最近几集，大家都说，最后一集简直糟糕透顶。

So the last episode, everyone is like the last couple episodes, but for sure, the last episode, people are like, it's, like, diabolically bad.

比如，这剧本

Like, the writing

最后一季。

The last season.

是的。

The yeah.

剧本完全不对劲。

Like, the writing is off.

感觉完全像另一部剧了。

It just seems like a different show.

就像是，比《权力的游戏》还要糟糕，他们当时就说，我不喜欢那个决定。

Like like, worse than, like, Game of Thrones, they were like, oh, I didn't like the decision.

但这次感觉是，有什么地方不对劲。

But this was like, something was wrong.

比如对话听起来，那根本不像那个角色的风格。

Like, the dialogue was like, that doesn't sound like that character.

是的。

Yeah.

所以他们意识到这部剧的编剧，那个被认为是史上最伟大编剧之一的人，好吧。

So they realize that the writer of the show who's been, like, considered, like, one of the greatest writers of all time, whatever Okay.

在电视界，离婚了，好吧。

In TV, got a divorce Okay.

和他的妻子，好吧。

From his wife Okay.

就在剧本还没写完的那段时间。

During the time that it still wasn't finished being written.

现在人们开始意识到，她很可能——这是指控——

And people are now realizing that she was, like, probably and this is alleged

代笔作家。

Ghost writer.

她是个代笔作家，因为我觉得她自己也是个作家。

She was a ghost writer because I think she's a writer as well.

所以人们正在查看时间线，发现她离开他的时候，他还没写完这部剧。

So people are, like, it's they're just looking at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, the he wasn't done writing the show.

而这部剧的结局烂透了。

And the show ended like shit.

那我们该怎么看待这个信息呢？

So what do we do with that information?

所以，不管怎样，如果

So anyway If

如果我有五分钱，只要我有他妈的五分钱

I had a nickel if I had a motherfucking nickel

是的。

yeah.

继续说。

Keep going.

不。

No.

就这些了。

That's that's it.

好吧。

Okay.

就是想惹你生气。

Just wanted to piss you off.

你提到这件事的时候，我以为你要说，因为我突然想起来，有人以为那是ChatGPT写的。

When you were talking about it, I thought you were gonna say because I then remembered I saw something that people thought it was chat GPT.

这事儿，你知道的，我们可以再添把火。

Which, you know, we can add that to the flame.

我唯一认可的编剧是珊达·莱梅斯。

The only writer that I acknowledge is Shonda Shonda fucking Ryan.

抱歉。

Like, I'm sorry.

如果一个普通人能产出这么多剧集，她就是我的ChatGPT。

If that many shows can come out of one human, she is my chat GPT.

是的。

Yes.

我觉得我们从来没聊过这个。

I think that that how do you we've never talked about this.

我们来聊聊金融科技吧。

Let's get into some fintech.

好。

Yeah.

你怎么看待AI演员，或者一部剧完全由ChatGPT编写？

How do you feel about, like, if there's, like, AI actresses or, like, if a show is completely written by chat GPT?

我觉得这几乎应该被列为非法行为。

Like, I almost borderline think it should be, like, illegal.

这真的让人很沮丧。

Well, it's just really depressing.

我来自创意行业，很多漫画作品——它们永远无法被取代，尤其是幽默。

And I come from, like, the creative background where a lot of the comics were, well, they'll never replace humor.

它们永远无法取代幽默。

They'll never replace humor.

但这些家伙正在变得越来越聪明。

But these motherfuckers are getting smart.

它们正在变得

Like, they're

是的。

Yeah.

它们每天都变得更聪明，但与此同时，它们又超级愚蠢。

They're getting smarter every Except then they're also super dumb.

比如，现在有个视频片段在流传，如果你问ChatGPT怎么拼写strawberry，它会拼错。

Like, there's a video clip going around that if you ask chat GPT, like, to spell strawberry, it spells it wrong.

因为它是从人类提供的资料中提取的，而人类并不聪明。

Well, because it's pulling from sources from humans and humans aren't Smart.

聪明。

Smart.

而且它基于

And it and it goes based off

这是算法决定的。

It's algorithmic.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，它是在向你学习。

So, like, it learns you.

所以它知道该做什么，它非常

So it knows what to it's very It's

非常具有操控性。

very manipulative.

它开始告诉你你想听的话。

It starts to tell you what you wanna hear.

这就是为什么男人会和它们谈恋爱。

Well, and that's why men are getting in relationships with them.

所以，那确实不是谣言。

So that and then that's not a myth.

我对此感到害怕。

I'm I'm scared about it.

我也对此感到害怕。

I'm scared about it.

我们都对此感到害怕。

We're scared about it.

我看过《机械公敌》。

I saw iRobot.

我的意思是，是的。

I mean Yes.

就这样了，关于这个我就说这么多。

That's all that's all I'm gonna say about that.

另外，我们确实做了，而且

Also, we did And

然后他们会认为，他们开始让AI看起来像梅根·福克斯。

then they're and then they're gonna think they're gonna start making them look like Megan Fox.

给我滚出我的家。

Get the fuck out of my home.

真的。

Literally.

你觉得我会把一个梅根·福克斯的AI机器人带进我家吗？

You think I'm bringing in a Megan Fox AI bot into my home?

另外，如果他们使用了梅根·福克斯的面部特征，她最好拿到应得的钱。

Also, Megan Fox better get her money for that if they're using her facial features.

嗯，他们拍了那部电影。

Well, like, they made that movie.

我的意思是，她演了那个角色，但是，

I mean, she played it, but,

呃，抱歉。

like Sorry.

我没听到那个。

I missed that

那一部。

one.

没关系。

That's okay.

我意思是，没关系的。

I was there's also the It's okay.

我们等等。

We were Wait.

一个爱笑的人给我发消息，只说：我不知道这是否属实，但她告诉我她要当陪审员，你知道他们都会问一些问题，比如

A giggler messaged me and just said, I don't know if this is true, but she said to me that she was getting jury duty, and you know where they ask, like, quest

我截了屏。

I screenshotted it.

我截

I screen

了屏。

Shotted it.

我也截了屏。

I screenshotted it too.

我给她发了私信。

And I DM'd her back.

我当时说：我笑哭了。

I was like, I'm crying.

好吧。

Okay.

所以Giggler给我们发了私信，说：嘿，有个有趣的事。

So Giggler DM'd us and goes, hey, funny story.

我被通知去当陪审员，他们会让你回答一系列问题。

I got jury duty and they see you they ask you a series of questions.

其中一个问题是：你最喜欢的播客是什么？

And one of the questions was, what was your what's your favorite podcast?

她立刻说出了‘Giggly Squad’。

She said giggly squad immediately dismissed.

我心想：你也太有影响力了。

I'm like, you're too powerful.

致敬Ruth Fernandez，她说她也遇到过。

Shout out Ruth Fernandez who said that she was.

她说：你想知道吗？好吧。

To say Do you wanna know okay.

你有过当陪审员的经历吗？有。

Have you ever had jury Yeah.

我被免除了。

I got dismissed.

你曾经当过陪审员吗？

Have you ever had jury duty?

是的。

Yeah.

好吧。

Okay.

我只经历过一次。

I've only ever had it one time.

嗯。

Mhmm.

我也被免除了，但不是因为那些人。

I I was also dismissed, but it's the it's not the people.

不是政府在挑选。

It's not the government that picks.

是律师

It's the

律师。

The lawyers.

法律的对立面。

The law the opposite.

那是什么？

What is that?

被告。

The defendants.

是他们在挑选陪审团，而不是检察官。

They are picking the jury, not the prosecutor.

哦。

Oh.

所以我在想

So I wonder

戴上眼镜，突然就懂法律和秩序了。

Puts on glasses, suddenly knows law and order.

我之所以能脱身，是因为我说我哥哥是律师，他为人民工作。

Well, I got out of it because my I said my brother is a lawyer and he works for the people.

所以我在这方面有偏见。

And so I am biased toward that.

随便吧。

Whatever.

直接把我给打发走了。

Got me right out of there.

你想逃避的话，

You wanna get out

想逃避陪审团职责，就说你听《Giggly Squad》。

of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad.

我不确定他们知不知道，《Giggly Squad》其实特别反男性。

I wonder if they know, like, Giggly Squad is so anti, like, men.

如果这个案子是那种明显涉及……

If the case was, like, something with, obviously, it was probably a

男人。

guy.

我的意思是，这显然是个

I mean, it was a

他们犯了百分之百的罪行。

They they commit a 100% of the crimes.

所以我怀疑他们会不会想：不会吧。

And so I wonder if they were like, no.

她太支持女性了。

She's so pro women.

我不知道。

I don't know.

但这让我感到非常自豪。

But it just made me really proud.

总是这样。

Always Same.

前几天晚上，我在床上读到它，心想，这真美。

I read it in my, like, bed the other night, and I was like, that's beautiful.

而且，没有什么比被免除陪审团义务更让人开心的了。

And also, there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty.

你会想，再见了，傻瓜们。

You're like, see you later, suckers.

然后大家都问，我怎么才能躲开它？

And then everyone goes, how do I get out of it?

然后你觉得自己好像陷入了某种《魔域冒险》一样的境地。

And then you you feel like you're in some kind of, like, Jumanji.

是的。

Yeah.

而且

And

我一接到陪审通知，就把我认识的所有律师都打了个遍。

I called every lawyer I freaking knew when I got jury duty.

比如，我有份按小时计薪的工作，遇到陪审通知时我就想，我该怎么办？

Like, what do I do when I got jury duty is I had an hourly job.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

当他们说，好吧，你得在这里待两周，报酬只有100美元时，

So when they were like, okay, you have to be here for two weeks for, like, a $100.

我就觉得，我其实是在亏钱。

I was like, I'm actually losing money.

但后来我觉得，

But then I I feel like

他们应该把所有男性孤独感都集中起来。

They should round up all the male loneliness.

让他们去干活。

Make them the put them to work.

那就是一种同事情谊。

They are the that's comradery.

但不是也有那些有工作、不能随便请两周假的人吗？

But aren't there people with jobs who, like, they can't just leave for two weeks?

还有那些照顾者，比如。

It's also people who are, like, caretakers.

比如他们真的走不开，那些带孩子的妈妈们怎么办？

Like, they really can't leave, like, moms really who's watching the kids?

时不时会遇到一个案子，你知道这会是个好案子。

Every now and then, there's a case that you know you're, like, this is gonna be good.

我很难过。

I'm sad.

说到这个，有一次我的睫毛美容师去当陪审员。

On that note, one time my eyelash lady had jury duty.

让我告诉你，那几周做睫毛的时候，我听到了前所未有的关于牙齿的事。

And let me tell you, that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done, no teeth no teeth like I've ever heard before.

有趣的是，她正在参与一桩谋杀案的陪审员工作。

And funnily enough, she was doing a juror case for a murder.

明白吗？

Okay?

现在这可是严重违法的。

She's now this is highly illegal.

她告诉我，而且

She's telling me and

我妈妈

my mom

把所有事情都告诉了我。

all of it.

是的。

Yep.

我妈妈说，等一下。

My mom goes, wait a second.

我觉得我认识那个家伙。

I think I know that guy.

我妈妈碰巧认识那个被控谋杀的男子。

My mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for murder.

金认识一些不靠谱的人。

Well, Kim runs in some sketchy circles.

我敢肯定他，呃，杀了他妻子，是的。

I'm pretty sure he, like, murdered his murdered his wife Yeah.

在监狱里。

In jail.

我的意思是，我的

I mean, my

妈妈说有人告诉她，你永远别想成功，那就是我初次接触陪审团义务的经历。

mom said someone, she's like, you're never gonna get and that was my introduction to jury duty.

不过，这可是我的风格。

This is my thing, though.

当我去当陪审员时，居然真的是个家伙，大概只是没按时把书还给图书馆。

When I had jury duty and it was literally, like, some guy, like, probably, like, didn't give the book back to the library in time.

我当时就想：这种破事我才不在这儿耗着呢。

I'm like, I'm not staying here for this shit.

我要的是谋杀案。

I want murder.

我要的是邪教案。

I want cults.

不。

No.

我的纽约绑架案。

My New York Kidnapping.

我那个纽约市的案子才叫疯狂。

My New York City one was crazy.

那简直就像对一位老妇人的袭击。

It was like a an assault on, like, an old lady.

那个男人和她住在同一栋楼里。

This guy and they lived in the same building.

那是个特别疯狂的案子，我本来很想了解最后怎么样了，但我当时想，我得走了。

It was a really crazy case, and I would like, wanted to know what ended up happening, but I was like, I gotta go.

但我要说，当我几年前去当陪审员的时候——大概是五六年前提吧——我对人们穿着打扮的方式非常失望。

But I will say in jury when I went when I did jury duty, and this was probably, like, five, six years ago, I was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed.

我当时想，各位，这是我们唯一的机会。

I was like, guys, this is the one chance we get.

我们坐在桃花心木椅子上呢。

We're sitting on mahogany.

我当时想，各位，

I'm like, guys,

蕾丝·威瑟斯彭此刻一定对你们所有人感到非常失望。

Reese Witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you.

我们正在被展示。

We're on display.

不。

No.

就好像我们在角色扮演。

It's like we're cosplaying.

就坚持几天吧。

Like, do it for a couple days.

你想听一件特别尴尬的事吗？

Do wanna hear something so embarrassing?

我当时真的回到了我当年穿得那副样子的时候。

I was like I'm literally going back to the time I drgy.

我当时大概是24、25岁。

I was, like, 24, 25.

我想那时候我可能有男朋友，去当陪审员时才发现，那天早上我忘了吃避孕药。

And I guess I might have had a boyfriend at the time, and I got to jury duty and realized I hadn't taken my birth control that morning.

那是你人生中的一个阶段，你会觉得，即使采取了保护措施，你也一定会怀孕。

And it was that time in your life where you think that, like, even if you have protected sex, you're gonna have a baby.

结果发现，怀孕没那么简单。

Turns out much more complicated to get pregnant.

结果发现，并不会。

Turns out no.

所以，你需要注射一些东西，那种针剂。

So that's something that needle, you need to inject yourself with some shit.

是的。

Yeah.

我意识到自己被困在这个地方，当时我吓坏了，觉得自己必须采取避孕措施。

I realized that I'm, like, locked in this place and I, like, was freaking out that I need to, like, birth control.

我。

Me.

我开始可能要恐慌发作，因为我心想：我被困在这栋法律大楼里，他们不让我出去，我肯定会怀孕。

And I started to, like, potentially have a panic attack because I was, like, I'm gonna get pregnant because I'm forced to be in this law building during and I'm they're not gonna let me out.

我差点就上去说，我得去避孕了。

And I almost went to the top to be, like, I have to get birth control.

但后来我想，去他的。

But then I was, like, fuck it.

我就干脆在24岁的时候怀个 teenage pregnancy（青少年怀孕）。

I'll just have a teen pregnancy at 24.

是的。

Yeah.

但我并没有怀孕。

And but I didn't get pregnant.

哦，我只是想要个好的。

Oh, I just wanted good.

告诉所有人。

To tell everyone.

我们都很开心。

We're so happy.

等等。

Wait.

说到恐慌发作，我知道你试着看过《告诉我谎言》，但没看下去。

Speaking of having a panic attack, I know you tried to watch Tell Me Lies, and you couldn't get through it.

你想告诉他们为什么吗？

Do you wanna tell them why?

为什么？

Why?

我只看了十秒钟。

I watched only ten seconds.

我只是觉得他不够帅。

I just didn't think he was cute.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

汉娜觉得史蒂文不够帅，以至于

Hannah didn't think Steven was hot enough to

但我还不了解他的性格。

But I don't know his personality yet.

我知道他简直就是个混蛋。

I know he's, like, a douche.

我跟你说过，他后来变得越来越有魅力。

I told you, it gets he gets so much hotter.

因为他对所有人都撒谎。

Because he lies to everyone.

是的。

Yes.

你看，我现在处于一种状态，就是我不喜欢他，我不喜欢这种感觉。

See, I'm in this place where I'm like, he I don't like his I don't like it.

你不喜欢这种氛围吗？

You don't like the energy?

他们现实中真的在约会。

They're dating in real life.

是的。

Yes.

这就是让它显得更有深度的原因吗？

Is that what makes it, like, even, like, more more depth?

人们

Are people

不。

No.

你根本不会去想，因为我爱

You don't really think about it when because because I love

当第一

when the first

第一季播出时，你并不知道他们现实中正在约会，我觉得。

season came out, you didn't know they were dating in real life, I don't think.

哦，他们在节目开拍前就约会了。

Oh, they dated before the show.

我觉得他们开始约会，大概是

I think they started dating, like

而且，说实话。

Also, let's be honest.

任何在剧集中和别人约会的人，实际上都在现实中约会。

Anyone who's dating someone on a show, like, in the storyline, they're actually dating.

他们告诉自己的伴侣自己并没有。

They tell their partners they're not.

你是在完全投入地表演恋爱。

You're fully method acting dating someone.

它

It

看他采访的时候很有趣，因为他看起来真的很好。

is funny to watch him in interviews because he does seem so nice.

他真的很好。

He's so nice.

就像，他简直完全相反。

Like, it it's like he could not be more opposite.

但在新一季中，如果你还没看，快跳着看吧，我要剧透了。

But in the new season, if you haven't watched it, clip through this because I'm gonna do some spoilers.

是的。

Yeah.

第三季的前三集已经上线了。

The first three episodes are out of the third season.

在其中一集中，格蕾丝饰演的角色露西正在经历恐慌发作，但她自己并不知道那是什么。

In one of the episodes, Grace, she plays a character, her name's Lucy, is having a panic attack, but she doesn't know what it is.

是的。

Yeah.

她演得实在太到位了。

And it's the way she acted it was so spot on.

我不得不把音量调低，因为我觉得，天啊，我确实

I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like, oh, I actually

是的。

Yeah.

听不下去了。

Can't listen

现在根本没法听她说，因为我自己也快有那种感觉了。

to her right now because I'm getting, like Yeah.

她就说，哎呀，感觉有点不对劲。

She's like, oh, something's weird.

她说，我的手，我的手麻了。

Like, my hands are my hands are numb.

她就说，在我的

She's like, in my

胸口。

my chest.

然后我就说，哎呀

And I'm like, oh

我的天啊。

my god.

她正在经历恐慌

She's having a panic

发作，因为他毁了她的生活。

attack because he's ruining her life.

而且这真的让我觉得，我的意思是，我觉得每个女孩都经历过，无论你是在二十多岁还是三十多岁，都会有一个时刻，你会想：到底发生了什么？

And it's was such I mean, like, I just think every girl has experienced that no matter if it's in your twenties and your thirties, like, a moment where you're like, what's going on?

是的。

Yeah.

然后你会想：我怎么了？这种感觉是从哪里来的？

And you're like, I what what's where is this coming from?

然后你会意识到，原来一切都是

And it's like, oh, everything's

在这里失控了。

going drugs here.

两天前。

Two days ago.

也许就是这个原因。

Maybe maybe it's that.

也许是因为我内心涌出的情绪，你会想到各种各样的事情，然后你就说，亲爱的。

Maybe it's, like, coming out of my and it's you think of all these different things and you're just like, hey, babe.

你正在毁掉自己的生活。

You're ruining your life.

我当时就想，你并没有抑郁。

Was like, you're not depressed.

是你手机里的那个男人。

It's the man in your phone.

这一季特别糟糕。

And this season is particularly fucked up.

像史蒂文演的那种角色，你知道那种男人，简直疯狂

Like, Steven plays a really like, but you know a guy like that, which is a crazy

是v还是pH？

v or a pH?

pH。

PH.

我一点都不喜欢那个。

Don't like that at all.

是的。

Yeah.

哦，你看，我更喜欢pH而不是v。

Oh, see, I prefer p h over v.

那么，是Stefan还是Steven？

Well, then is it Stefan or Steven?

嗯，我

Well, I

我会说那个是带f的。

would say that's with an f.

斯特凡。

Stefan.

斯特凡。

Stefan.

你知道吗，男性名字一般来说，我觉得很难搞清楚。

You know, male names in general are, like it's I've it's hard, I feel like.

你经常收到私信问你婴儿名字的笑话吗？

Do you get a lot of gigglers DM you about baby names?

一次都没有。

Not one.

真的吗？

Really?

因为我会说

Because I would say

一周一次。

it once a week.

去给我发点其他的灵感。

Go and send me some other inspo.

不。

No.

我不太喜欢这个。

I'm not loving that.

等等。

Wait.

你让他们给你发婴儿名字？

You asked them to send you baby names?

没有。

No.

他们给我发了一个列表，然后说，在这四个里面，你最喜欢哪个？

They send me a list, and they're like, of these four, what are your favorite?

哦，是给他们自己的孩子取名。

Oh, for them naming their child.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

不

No.

我忘了

I forgot.

而且，大概有14%的私信都是这样的：我不喜欢这个中间名和这个名字的搭配。

And, like, that's a like, I would say I'd say 14% of my DMs is being like, I don't love that middle name with that first.

我经常收到这样的问题：我该给这只小猫取什么名字？

I do get a lot of, what should I name this kitten?

哦，对啊

Oh, yeah.

我就说：奥利奥，很明显嘛。

And I'm like Oreo, obviously.

是的。

Yeah.

或者像先生先生，你知道的

Or like mister mister, you know

施尼布尔。

Schnibble.

施尼布尔。

Schnibble.

我不知道发生了什么。

I don't know what's happening.

一些疯狂的事情。

Something insane.

是的。

Yeah.

我想到的是乐福鞋。

I'm like loafer.

你就这么叫它。

That's what you name it.

等等。

Wait.

这太可爱了。

That's adorable.

随便想一个名词。

Just think of a random noun.

这太可爱了。

It's adorable.

是的。

Yeah.

标签。

Hashtag.

土豆饼。

Hash brown.

我其实看了一部关于贾德家族的疯狂纪录片。

I actually watched a insane documentary about the Judd family.

哦。

Oh.

你了解贾德家族的背景故事吗？

Are you familiar with the lore of the Judd family?

我对贾德家族有点了解。

I'm I'm a little bit familiar with the Judds.

所以有妈妈

So there's the mom

是的。

Yep.

她美得惊人。

Who Stunning gorgeous.

她以前用过不同的名字。

Had a different name.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但后来她改了名字。

But then she changed her name.

她叫什么名字？

What is her name?

是个特别美的名字。

It's something gorgeous.

温娜？

Wynonna?

不是。

Nope.

那是女儿。

That's the daughter.

哦，艾什莉是另一个女儿。

Oh, Ashley's the other daughter.

然后我们就把它插在这里。

And then we'll insert it right here.

哦，什么？

Oh, what?

就像娜奥米。

It's like Naomi.

是的。

Yeah.

娜奥米。

Naomi.

好的。

Okay.

所以我们有了娜奥米和温侬娜。

So we got Naomi and Wynonna.

对。

Yes.

好的。

Okay.

所以娜奥米18岁就怀孕了。

So Naomi gets pregnant at 18.

她的母亲

And her mother

和温娜娜一起。

With Wynonna.

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yeah.

她的母亲也没结婚。

And her mother and she's not married.

她母亲把门锁上，基本上就是说，你不欢迎再进这个家。

Her mother locks the door and is basically, like, you're not welcome in this house.

你未婚生子了。

You've had a baby out of wedlock.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

所以她没有，因为他们来自德克萨斯州。

So she doesn't because they're from, like, Texas.

对吧？

Right?

他们来自美国南方某个地方。

They're from somewhere in the South.

是的。

Yeah.

但她其实并不喜欢那个让她怀孕的家伙，但她想，好吧，我只好他妈的嫁给他了。

But she's, like, not really into this guy who she got pregnant with, but instead she's, okay, I guess I have to fucking marry this guy.

于是她嫁给了这个男人，但她根本就没那么喜欢他。

So she marries this guy, and she's not even like that into him.

她想当电影明星。

And she wants to be a movie star.

但她才18岁就怀孕了。

But she's like, I just got pregnant at 18.

这他妈太糟了。

Like, this fucking sucks.

然后她又怀孕了。

And then she gets pregnant again

嗯。

Mhmm.

那时候都是这样的。

As you do back in the day.

然后她生了阿什莉。

And then she has Ashley.

是的。

Yep.

然后她和这个男人离婚了。

And then she divorces this guy.

她说：我讨厌你。

She's like, I hate you.

是的。

Yeah.

但他们搬到了洛杉矶。

But they move to LA.

好的。

K.

她又遇到了另一个 abusive 男友，但最终摆脱了他。

She meets another abusive boyfriend, gets out of it.

但她意识到温娜唱歌非常出色。

But she realizes that Wynonna's amazing at singing.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以她简直就是个妈妈经纪人。

So she, like, full she's like a momager.

妈妈经纪人。

Momager.

她就说，我要让这个女孩出名。

And she's like, I'm gonna get this girl famous.

她是我们的翻身机会。

She's our ticket out.

是的。

Yeah.

她去了纳什维尔，但温侬娜和她完全相反。

And she goes to Nashville and but Wynonna is opposite of her.

温侬娜不喜欢奢华和关注。

Wynonna's not into the glam, into the attention.

她只是恰好是个异常出色的歌手。

She just happens to be a freakishly good singer.

是的。

Yeah.

她们会一起唱歌，而那个

And they like sing together Which the

妈妈也很棒。

mom is good too.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

所以发生的情况是，Wynonna 根本得不到

So what happens is, like, Wynonna gets no

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