Alli Fitz

我就真不在乎。

Like, I don't don't care.

我就说了，还一直这么说。

And so I just said it, and I kept saying it.

我要当歌手。

I'm a be a singer.

我去学了音乐剧。

I went to school for musical theater.

我一定要做成这件事。

I'm gonna do this.

所以……

So

你看，我现在就在这儿。

here I am.

有这么个词儿，说不定是今年的关键词，谁知道呢——就是‘吸引现实’。

There's something and it could be the word of this year, who knows, but of manifesting.

对吧？

Right?

是啊。

Oh, yeah.

承认自己做得到。

Owning that you can do it.

没错。

Yep.

我昨天刚和朋友聊过这个。

Me and my friend were just talking about that yesterday.

我们在聊显化这事儿，我都说不顺口了。

We were talking about manifestation I can't even say it.

显化，对。

Manifestation Yep.

它到底是怎么起作用的呢？

How it does work, like.

就是那些敢说‘我就是要干’的人，最后反而真干成了。

It's those that are crazy enough to say that they're gonna do it that actually tend to do it.

对。

Yep.

但一开始，你怕别人会笑话你。

But I think it's at first, you're afraid that people might criticize you.

是啊。

Mhmm.

可恰恰是那些太怕这个、不敢开口的人，才什么也做不成。

But it's those that are actually so afraid of that that they won't speak up.

是的。

Yeah.

那就好。

Well then good.

说实话，这条路挺难走的。

Because honestly, it's a rough road.

确实如此。

It is.

你很可能走不到最后。

You probably won't make it.

各种条件都不利于你。

The odds are all stacked against you.

如果你心里还有任何怀疑，甚至有点备选计划，那就算了。

And if you have any sort of doubt or even probably some sort of plan b Yeah.

那就别干了，

Then take it,

说实话。

honestly.

对。

Yep.

因为你必须百分之百投入这个行业，这儿可太疯狂了。

Because you gotta be a 100% for this, like, industry because it's crazy out here.

这事儿真够难的。

It's so rough.

你觉得什么更伤人？

Would you say what cuts deeper?

对啊。

Yeah.

有人当面跟你说，比如管理层之类的。

Someone telling you something face to face, maybe management or or something of that.

咱们都听过那些大神的故事吧，说什么唱片公司拒了我，结果另一家给了我机会。

And we've all we've heard all the greats, right, say like, oh, this record label turned me down this, and then this one took a chance on me.

没错。

Yep.

这种事太常见了。

So it happens all the time.

还有那种你根本不认识的人，在你主页底下留些伤人的话。

So someone like that or someone commenting who you don't even know on your page something hurtful.

是的。

Yeah.

肯定是那些平台官方的做法更伤人。

Definitely the label like them.

对。

Yeah.

那种事真的会让我特别难受。

That one would hurt me more.

因为我亲身经历过。

Like, because I've been through this.

我从2014年就开始用Vine了。

I've been on Vine since 2014.

我跟你说，Vine底下那些评论才是真的刻薄。

And I'll tell you one thing, Vine comments were the meanest comments

真的吗？

Were they?

从来都没有。

Ever.

比如在YouTube上，你知道吧，人家喜欢你才会关注、订阅你。

Like, between YouTube because, you know, people will follow you, subscribe to you on YouTube Mhmm.

要是喜欢你的话。

If they like you.

谁会去订阅一个自己不喜欢的人呢？

You know, they're not gonna subscribe to someone they don't like.

所以一般根本不会收到什么恶评，对吧。

So you usually don't really get hateful comments Yeah.

除非你上了热门推荐什么的。

In there unless you hit like the trending page or something.

但Vine不一样，你一上热门，连根本不关注你的人都能看到你的内容。

But Vine, you would hit popular page so people who are not even following you see your stuff.

我明白了。

I see.

所以他们就会说，她好丑啊，或者就直接骂人。

So they'll just be like, she's ugly or just just say the Yeah.

最刻薄的话都有。

Rudest things.

刚开始的时候，我真觉得头疼。

And at, you know, at the beginning, I was like, jeez.

我老是删评论，后来就想了，算了。

I would delete a Then lot of I was like, you know what?

我没工夫坐这儿一条条删这些恶毒的留言。

I don't have time for this to sit here and delete these mean comments.

你要是就为了骂人打几个字，显得自己特别low，你知道吗？

If you're gonna just type something out rude, like, you look lame, you know?

所以我干脆就不在乎了。

So I just decided not to care.

连现在，就算评论挺毒的，我也照样看。

Like, I even read comments now even if they're You do.

人啊。

People.

我以前根本懒得看那些评论。

I usually or I used to just not read them at all.

但现在我会看，因为确实有些挺好的评论。

But now I read them because, like, there's some good comments in

里面也有一些。

there that

但也有不少乱七八糟的。

But wanna then there's some other stuff.

我知道最难的就是那些刷屏的恶意评论。

I know that's what's hard, the people that, like, flood your inbox with hate.

它们把真正友善的评论都淹没了。

It covers up those ones that really are trying to be nice.

是啊。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

我喜欢回复那些友善的评论。

I like to respond to the nice ones.

我不回那些刻薄的，因为那正是他们想让你做的。

I don't respond to the mean ones because that's what they want you to do.

所以。

So

我很好奇，你算是元老级人物了，虽然这游戏算新的，但你玩得可真久。

what then I'm curious because you've an OG in a sense, you've been in the game a long time even though it's a new game.

是啊。

Yeah.

真的，我都不想笑。

Really, when you look at I'm not even gonna laugh at all.

确实如此。

It is.

一切都全新的。

It's all new.

但我很好奇，你刚入行的时候和现在相比，现在的数字环境简直天差地别——以前觉得人已经够多了，现在简直挤爆了。

But I'm curious because when you got into it all versus now, the digital landscape now, like, think we used to think it was crowded, and now it is so oversaturated.

说实话，数字领域现在人满为患，根本没个尽头。

It is we have honestly an overcrowding problem in the digital space in which there is no limit.

对啊。

Yeah.

但现在人实在太多了，

But there's so many people,

比如那些活动，老是邀请创作者去参加，

like, for these the events and stuff that they invite creators to.

我看了下嘉宾名单，心里直嘀咕：是我老了，还是怎么着？

I looked at the lineup, and I'm like, am I getting old or what?

因为压根儿看不到几个我认识的人，说真的，

Because I'm I'm not seeing, like, I don't know

我一直在想这个问题。

I wonder this.

我以前熟悉的东西。

What I used to know.

我都在想，他们还愿意跟我做朋友吗？

And I'm like, do they even wanna be friends with me?

我是不是太老了？

Am I too old?

感觉每个人好像都是个名人，可我一个名字都认不出来。

It seems like every anyone is someone in a sense, and it's like, I don't recognize any of these names.

对啊。

Yeah.

然后我又觉得自己挺愧疚的，好像我本该认识他们的。

And then I feel bad because it's like, you should know them.

他们都有六百多万粉丝了。

They have like 6,000,000.

我跟他们说，对不起啊。

I'm like, I'm sorry, guys.

我跟现在的潮流脱节了。

I'm out of the loop.

那些TikTok上的舞蹈，我几乎都不会。

I barely know the TikTok dances.

天哪。

Oh my

这可是个大话题。

that's a whole

这完全能另开一档播客了。

whole another podcast.

对啊，这都能单独做一期了。

That's a whole another one.

但你怎么才能保持真实的自己呢？

But how do you stay true to who you are Mhmm.

在这么拥挤的地方，怎么才能脱颖而出呢？

While trying to stand out in a place that is so so crowded?

哦，我是说，我就保持本色吧。

Oh, how do I okay.

我就做我自己呗。

I mean, I'd stay true to who I am.

我只做我擅长的事。

I just do what I do.

我才不会因为看到别人做了什么，就去模仿，这招我早试过了。

I'm not gonna try to do something that someone else does just because I saw them do it because I've already tried that.

比如看到什么热门趋势，我就去跟风，像那些TikTok舞蹈视频。

Like, if I've seen a trend go and I try to do it, like the TikTok dance videos.

是的。

Yeah.

我跳的那些TikTok舞蹈视频，根本没我平时的搞笑视频火。

My TikTok dance videos do not do as well as like my comedy videos that I'm used to.

是的。

Yeah.

因为我的观众知道他们想看什么，他们不想看我跳舞，毕竟我舞跳得真不怎么样，但你也懂的。

Because that's my audience knows what they wanna see, and they don't don't wanna see me dance cause I'm not the best dancer, but, you know.

但话说回来，这可是TikTok啊。

But it's like also people, it's TikTok.

这儿本来就是让你去试试跳舞、放轻松的地方。

It's the place you should be able to go and just try and dance.

我跳舞可烂了。

You know, I was terrible at dance.

我妈非逼着我去上舞蹈课，没办法。

My mom made me stay in it, okay, in dance classes.

但那也挺好的。

But That's cool though.

不过

But

你有没有想过，年纪越大，你在舞池里最欣赏的其实是哪类人？

on you know who honestly will become your favorite on the dance floor as you get older?

就是那个跳得最烂却还一直跳的人。

Is the worst dancer who continues to dance anyways.

没错。

Yep.

大家都是这样。

Everyone's Yeah.

在舞池里，没人真喜欢那些跳得特别好的。

No one likes a winner when it comes to the dance floor.

抱歉啊。

Sorry.

就是实话实说。

Just saying.

他们那种婚礼上的派对性格，太真实了。

They get those weddings personality.

开始了。

Started.

对。

Yes.

话虽如此，你有没有觉得自己老想喝水？

That all being said, do you ever find yourself getting thirsty?

因为就像我们说的，这事儿太饱和了。

Because I it is, like we said, saturated.

我们其实有个套路。

We do kind of there's a formula.

你知道哪些方法管用。

You do know what works.

没错。

Mhmm.

把自己搞得有性吸引力是有效的。

Sexualizing yourself can work.

对。

Yep.

聊分手这事也管用。

Talking about breakups can work.

对。

Yep.

晒对象也能奏效。

Posting who you're with can work.

真是够疯狂的。

Crazy stuff.

公开恋爱关系也有效。

Staking relationships can work.

没错。

Oh, yeah.

所以问题来了，你会不会觉得口渴？

So question, do you get thirsty?

你有没有过那种时候，渴得连自己都认不出来了？

When have you fit what's an example of you being such a thirst monster you don't even recognize yourself?

咱们好好想想。

Let's think about it.

我在努力回忆。

I'm trying to think.

我到底干过啥啊？

What have I done?

我不是说我觉得你就是这样的人。

And I'm not saying because I think you are.

我只是自己也栽过跟头，有些事儿简直离谱到我都想说‘是啊’。

I've just even fallen victim to it in, like, the weirdest ways where I'm like Yeah.

你真发了那个？

You posted that?

对。

Yeah.

我确实有，我知道。

I've I know I have.

我就是想不起具体是啥。

I'm just trying to think of what it is.

估计是TikTok上啥跟风潮流吧，挺尬的，但我还是跟着做了。

Like, it's probably a trend or something on TikTok that was like cringey, but I did it anyway.

要说的话，就是以前Musically那阵子，你懂的，好吧。

Well, I would say the Musically thing, like, you know Okay.

就是Musically那时候，大家把摄像头这么晃来晃去，对吧。

Where when it was Musically where you would move the camera Mhmm.

人家做得特别酷，可我根本不会。

They would do it in such cool ways, and I didn't know how to do it.

那些转场，确实。

The transitions were Yeah.

简直神级。

Next level.

我那时候也会

Mine would

我拍得肯定没那么好看，但那时候我真的特别想火，也想当个Musically网红。

never look that good, but that was a moment where I was thirsty because I wanted to be a Musically star too.

对啊。

Yep.

因为那时候我也不知道该发点啥，反正大家全在拍这个。

Because I mean, I didn't know what else to post at that time because that's all that they were doing.

所以我就想，行吧，我也来一个。

So I was like, I'm gonna do it too.

至于音乐事业，咱们都懂，得熬个十年左右。

Well, and the music career, we all know it's gonna be the the ten year period.

对吧？

Right?

很少有是一夜爆红的。

It's never very rarely overnight.

是啊。

Oh, yeah.

就连利尔·纳斯，你看看他的经历，他也是从很久以前开始的。

Even Lil Nas, you'll look at his and he'll date back.

也许现在成功所需的时间能短一些了。

And maybe now it takes a can it take a shorter amount of time.

对。

Mhmm.

但他发的那些内容，其实都是早在一年前的生活，根本不是昨天才开始的。

But he was posting back to a year ago where his life was not that and it wasn't a day ago.

那是整整一年前的事了。

It was over a year ago.

没错。

Yeah.

太酷了。

So cool.

不是。

No.

太疯狂了。

It's insane.

不过我想说，就像那种特别想发帖的感觉。

But I was gonna say, yeah, like being thirsty.

你有没有删过什么东西，心里直摇头？

Have you ever taken something down that you were just like, mm-mm.

不是吧？

Not it?

我得想想。

I'm trying to think.

我说不上来，可能真删过，但现在一时想不起来。

I don't think I mean, I probably have, but I can't think of it all at the moment.

当然，我以前发过一些比基尼照片。

There's been like bikini pictures that I've done before, of course.

因为我正想看看，嘿。

Because I'm trying to see, like, hey.

当然。

For sure.

对。

Yeah.

我删掉了一些之前拍的。

I took I archived some of those.

是啊。

Mhmm.

那然后呢？

So then what?

好吧。

Okay.

咱们稍微说说，嗯，那些存档的内容。

Let's go a little bit I mean, yeah, the archives.

问题就出在这儿。

That's where it's at.

没错。

Yep.

这绝对是关键所在。

That is definitely where it's at.

咱们聊聊你那首低调的单曲吧，我想跟你玩个更私密一点的小游戏。

Let's go a little bit into your single subtle here because I wanna play a game with you that'll kinda be on a more personal level.

好吧。

But Okay.

咱们说说新歌吧。

Let's talk new music.

对。

Mhmm.

别藏着掖着了。

Don't be subtle about it.

是的

Mhmm.

你发布了单曲《Subtle》。

You put out your single Subtle.

对

Yeah.

没错

True.

从那以后，其实那首歌是先发的。

Then since then actually, well, that dropped first.

对

Mhmm.

然后你还发布了《Only for the Night》，和你朋友Chad Press合作的那首。

And then you also dropped only for the night featuring your friend Chad Press

对

Yeah.

谁刚看过

Who's just seen

给查德打个招呼。

Shout out to Chad.

真该跟他聊聊人生。

Like, should have a chat at their life.

我都不太清楚

I don't even know

他那种人吧。

him that way.

也不是啥大事，就那样。

Not a but that's it.

这挺重要的。

It's important.

你生活中得有个查德这样的人。

You have to have a Chad in your life.

没错。

Definitely.

所以聊聊吧，你最近都没出新歌了。

So talk a little bit because you haven't dropped music in a while.

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，除了那两首歌之外，其他都没了。

I mean, the last well, besides those two songs.

对。

Yeah.

现在你又接二连三地发新歌了。

And now you're hitting us back to back.

她回来了。

So she's back.

对。

Yeah.

我就想，我回来了，但在这两首歌之前，上一首是《Secret》，我记得那是夏天的时候。

I'm like, I'm back But the last song before those two was Secret, and I think that was in the summertime.

所以呢，

So like

明白了。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

已经隔了好几个月了。

It it had been a couple months.

明白了。

Okay.

那这两首歌，你觉得跟之前的有什么不一样吗？

So what about these two would you say are different from the others?

或者跟以前的作品比？

Or from previous music?

《Subtle》和我以前的歌 Definitely 不一样，首先它节奏更慢。

I Subtle is definitely different from my previous music first of all, because it's like slower.

我平时喜欢做那种 upbeat 的单曲，像派对神曲那种，来吧朋友们！

I like to do those upbeat singles, like party singles, like come on y'all.

《Secret》就是那种类型的。

Secret is definitely one of those.

但《Subtle》真的就是《Subtle》。

But subtle is subtle.

它属于那种慢速的 R&B 加流行风。

And it's like slow r and b, pop.

我通常……其实不算流行，是 R&B。

I'm usually well, it's not pop, it's r and b.

我平时其实是个流行女孩。

I'm usually a pop girl.

明白。

Okay.

但我当时就想试试看，做点不一样的东西。

But I was trying to, you know, do something different.

所以这首歌更偏向R&B，节奏也慢，还请了11来说唱，挺特别的。

So it's more r and b and it's slower and it has a rapper in it, is 11.

给11打个call！

Shout out to you 11.

太酷了。

Very cool.

对啊。

Yeah.

这跟我平时的风格完全不一样。

And that's totally different from my style.

所以这首真的挺特别的。

So that one's different.

而且只适合晚上听。

And only for the night.

我觉得这其实唯一的区别就是，节奏比较轻快。

I'd say it's the only difference really is like I mean, it's upbeat.

它呢，

It's

是啊。

yeah.

我喜欢。

I like it.

说不准。

I don't know.

这首歌是写给谁的？

Who's it about?

哦。

Oh.

这可够直白的。

Not so subtle.

进来了。

Coming in there.

听着像是个挺棒的夜晚，我就是好奇这事儿是不是真有其事。

It sounded like a good night, and I'm just curious if it's based on a true story.

对查德来说，可能真是基于真实经历。

Well, for Chad, it might be based on a true story.

明白了。

Okay.

但对我来说，我……

But for me, I

算是贴近事实吧？

Truth adjacent?

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

好吧。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

接近真实吧。

Truth adjacent.

其实也没特定写谁。

Don't really have anybody that song was about.

就是2020年那会儿的约会生态。

It was just like, the the dating world of 2020.

我得写点能反映人们平时怎么相处的东西，你知道的。

I had to write something that was like, how people act, you know.

大家不就图个一夜欢愉嘛。

They're just like, oh, only for the night.

就这一晚，别无他求。

No more.

我们什么也不想要。

We don't want anything.

就是互不牵扯，你知道的。

No strings attached, you know.

这事儿真烦人，但我还是得写出来。

That's so annoying too, but I had to write it.

那你现在感情生活怎么样？

And where are you now in your dating life?

挺好奇的。

Curious.

天哪。

Oh, my God.

好吧。

Okay.

有个男生，我该不该说他的名字呢。

So there's this one guy should I say his no.

我不会

I'm not gonna

说他的名字，你不用

say his You don't have

说他的名字。

say his name.

对。

Yeah.

他根本没同意。

He didn't sign up Yeah.

为了

For

他确实没有。

He did not.

我喜欢他。

He I like him.

他还行吧，反正。

He's cool or whatever.

但问题是，每次我想约他出来，我都说：‘嘿，要不要一起玩？’

But at the same time, it's like whenever I try to meet up, I'm like, hey, you wanna hang out?

结果他就消失得无影无踪。

It's ghost.

然后他倒说：‘我最近忙，但我真想见你。’

And then he's like, I'm busy, but but I wanna see you.

你要真想见我，就不会这样了——真想见一个人，总会挤出时间的。

If you wanted to see me, you wouldn't you know, if somebody wants to see you, they'll make time.

我现在总算明白了。

And I've finally learned that, you know.

花了好长时间才想通。

It took a while.

他之前说：‘嘿，’我就干脆没回他。

And so he was like, hey, and I just did not respond.

我没回，因为是时候吸取教训了。

I did not because like, it's time to learn your lesson.

然后他问：‘你怎么不回我啊？’

And then he was like, wait, why aren't you responding?

我就跟他讲清楚，他那样做有多让人生气。

And I had to explain to him what what he's doing and why it made me mad.

现在嘛，我们关系总算缓和了。

And then now, I guess we're on good terms.

但我还是给他上了一课。

But I teach him.

挺有意思的是，我平时也不太赞成玩消失，但有时候确实该这么做。

It's interesting because I'm not a fan per se of ghosting, but there is a time and place for it.

我懂这个道理。

I do understand that.

对。

Yes.

但挺奇怪的，因为关系刚起步的时候，Mhmm。

But it's weird because when things are too early on into the relationship Mhmm.

这根本算不上什么关系，对吧？

That's not even technically a relationship Right.

你怎么跟人提分手啊？

How do you break up with someone?

你懂我意思吧？

You know what I mean?

或者你跟对方玩这套，感觉也太早了吧，还没到能说‘嘿，我知道你在干嘛’的时候。

Or playing these things to them that it seems a little too soon to actually have that conversation of like, hey, I know what you're doing.

我一眼就看穿了。

I see right through this.

对啊。

Yeah.

别搞得像那种疯疯癫癫的女生一样。

And like play that, not come off as like that crazy girl.

但你也想保住自己的尊严，对吧？

But also like You wanna Remain your pride, like,

这确实是个好问题。

you That's a good question.

我好怕做这种事。

I'm so scared to do that.

真的很难。

It's hard.

所以我才单身。

That's why I'm single.

就是不想显得太夸张，天啊。

It's like, because I don't wanna seem like that, woah.

我们才聊了几个星期而已。

We we just been talking for a couple of weeks.

就那样聊着聊着。

Blah blah blah blah.

你干嘛这样啊？

Why are you acting like that?

但我……

But I

你觉得在什么情况下，你有义务向别人解释？

don't Like when do you think you owe someone an explanation?

我对这事有个大概的原则，虽然也知道得看情况，但说实话……

Because I have like a rule of thumb on this and I know it's situational, but like Mhmm.

就我个人而言，要是咱们真见过面，一起吃过饭，那我觉得——当然了。

Me personally, I think if we have gone out in person and like had a dinner, if you will say Yeah.

我觉得在没真正见过面之前，就去追人家，不太合适。

I don't think you should go someone after like physically meeting up in person before.

我觉得这样真的……挺不妥的。

I feel like that is just like Yeah.

要是你追的是个网上从来没见过的，那另说。

If you go someone that you've never really met online, it's like, okay.

是的

Yeah.

这种事以前见过。

We've seen it done before.

随便吧。

Whatever.

没错。

Exactly.

但如果是当面见面的话，如果你已经

But in person If you've

以前见过面，那就不一样了。

met them before, that's different.

就像这次，是的。

Like with this Yeah.

你知道吗？

You know what?

这人我压根儿还没见过呢。

With this guy, I haven't even met him yet.

就像，好吧。

Like in Okay.

真的。

Real.

但如果你以前见过某人，一起出去玩过、吃过饭啥的，突然消失就太怪了。

So But if you've met someone in person before, and you've shared some like you've hung out, ate, whatever you've done, it's weird to ghost them.

因为人家在现实里是真认识你的。

Because now they know you in real life.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以啊，你至少得给我个交代吧。

So it's like, you owe me at least something.

我觉得可能

I think Maybe

我不太喜欢这样，你得直接跟人家说清楚。

I'm not into You gotta tell them straight up.

我不感兴趣，或者我其实想找别的。

I'm not into it or I'm looking for something else.

就直说吧。

Something.

好让他们心里有个了断，你知道的。

So they have closure, you know?

那你觉得，多长时间算个界限呢？

Then when would you say would how long is

你跟一个人聊多久才决定要不要继续？

it your time limit on continuing to talk to someone?

哦，明白了。

Oh, okay.

然后呢，咱们到底见不见面？

And then it's like, okay, are we gonna meet up or not?

不是问我们到底算什么关系，而是线上聊多久就该约见面了，再不见面就有点儿过了吧。

Not even where are we, but just like how long is okay to talk online before it's like we have to meet in person or this is

你知道吗？

you know what?

我觉得一个月吧。

I will say a month.

我建议一个月。

I'll say a month.

行。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

你挺宽容的。

You're lenient.

我喜欢这样。

I like that.

哦，真的吗？

Oh, really?

你觉得呢？

What do

你说什么？

you say?

你可是个大忙人啊。

Well, you're a busy girl.

我懂。

I get it.

我也不确定。

I don't know.

就是我发现自己浪费太多时间了，你知道吧，我们做了好多访谈之类的，对吧。

I think there's just too many times that I've wasted my time that I you know, we do a lot of interviews and all this like Mhmm.

闲聊嘛，是啊。

Small talk Yeah.

只是在工作上。

Professionally.

对。

Mhmm.

我不想在私生活里也这样，你知道的，太累人了。

I don't wanna do it in my private life as you know it's exhausting.

确实如此。

It's kind of like Yeah.

没错。

It's true.

行吧。

Alright.

要么就直接约个计划，我就喜欢这样。

Either like make plans or let's I like that.

别老这么拖着了。

Not carry this on.

有可能吧

It could

会更像那样。

be like that more.

其实就是

Well, it's

因为整整一个月，感觉就像

like because a whole month, it's like

哦，原来是这样。

It's like, oh.

纯属浪费时间。

Waste of time.

简直就是笔友。

It's literally a pen pal.

你到底想不想见他？

Do you want to meet him or not?

是的

Yeah.

我可以做到。

I can do that.

因为我不需要实物或面对面的东西。

It's like because I don't need something physically and in person.

没错。

Exactly.

但我会比现在开心多了。

But I'd be much happier than I do.

比起上网，发短信更好。

Texting than the Internet.

不用。

No.

就来见我吧。

Just meet me.

咱们就随便聚聚吧。

Let's just hang out.

你是不是觉得抱歉？

Do you sorry.

那你平时会在你那个——我叫它社交媒体圈子里——约会吗？对吧。

Do you date people then within your own I'm gonna call it social media world, but also Yeah.

因为那是个特别公开的圈子，那你会在工作圈里约会别人吗？

That's because that's a very public world, would or you even date someone in your professional world?

我更想说的是，比如在音乐圈里。

I'm gonna take that more of, like, in the music industry world.

对。

Mhmm.

我尽量只在社交媒体圈里找人，因为大家都懂这行。

Well, I try to stay in the social media world just because they know what's going on.

有时候我正在拍照，结果有人完全不懂社交媒体这回事，就问我：啥？

Because sometimes I'll be like, I'm at a photo shoot, and then there's somebody who doesn't know about the social media thing, and they'll be like, what?

对啊。

Yep.

真有这事，一个月前刚发生过。

That actually happened to me like a month ago.

我跟一个 guy 聊天，就说：哎，我刚拍完照。

There's this guy I was talking to, and I was like, oh yeah, I just finished up a photo shoot.

接下来要去采访。

Now I'm going to interview.

他听了就说：

He's like, he said this.

你是谁啊？

He said, who are you?

还发了个笑哭的表情，我当场就无语了。

And then put the laughing face emoji, and I'm just like, oh.

我就是干网络这行的，你懂的。

I do Internet things, you know?

就是啊

It's

要是别人不了解，还得专门解释，真挺奇怪的。

so weird to have to explain it to people if they don't if they don't already know.

所以我一般就尽量...

So I just try

能不说就不说吧，我懂你意思。

to keep it in does make us because I I'm with you on that.

比如我说刚拍完个地毯，人家真以为我去打扫卫生了。

It's like, oh, I just finished up a carpet, and they're literally like, were you cleaning?

我说：不是不是。

It's like, oh, no.

我是说红毯。

Actually meant a red carpet.

可这么一说，又引出一堆问题，我只好说：等等...

And but then that just opens up another floodgate, and I'm like Wait.

红毯。

Red carpet.

你认识这个人吗？

Do you know this person?

这么一说，我们好像挺高大上的，对吧。

It makes us sound elevated and, like Yeah.

其实要是了解内情，根本没那么装腔作势。

Somewhat pompous when really if you knew the ins and out, it's not.

真没有。

It's not.

明白吧？

Okay?

对啊。

Yep.

哪有那么光鲜，是吧。

Not so glamorous Mhmm.

所有这些背后。

Behind it all.

对。

Yep.

有些部分还挺有意思的。

Some of it's fun.

别误会我们。

Don't get us wrong.

我不是那个意思。

I'm not Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

不是。

No.

我确实玩得很开心，但跟大家想的完全不一样。

I have a good time, but it's just different than what people think it is.

好吧。

Okay.

所以你没事。

So you're fine.

你们在同一个社交媒体圈里公开约会，不觉得尴尬吗？

Are you fine public publicly dating someone in the same social media atmosphere?

是的。

Yeah.

同一个圈子？

Same sphere?

对。

Yep.

明白了。

Okay.

不过，公开恋情的话，有什么关键原则吗？

What what's the golden rule on making it public, though?

因为你这么一公开，等于把所有事都摊给粉丝看了。

Because then you got all you're opening it up to your fans.

哎呀，我也不清楚。

Oh, I don't know.

哎呀，你就是得……我也不知道怎么说。

Oh, you gotta just I don't know.

好吧。

Okay.

你根本没什么成文的规矩。

This is you don't have a written roll.

就是……对啊。

It's just Yeah.

不是。

No.

我没有。

I don't.

但我尽量不把所有东西都公之于众。

I just I try not to put everything on out there though.

我不知道。

I don't know.

这问题问得好。

That's a good question.

行吧。

Alright.

咱们待会儿再看看她愿意公开哪些、不愿意公开哪些，因为我们要玩个小游戏。

Well, we're gonna find out a little bit more of what she's fine to put out there and not, because we're gonna play a little

叫什么来着，哦，对。

game Oh, yeah.

叫《

Called

我不是那种在乎头衔的人，不过我会给你几个场景，你猜我是低调处理还是高调张扬？

and like, I'm not a title person, so but some I'm gonna give you situations and I wanna know if you're subtle about it or if you're loud about it.

哦，我喜欢这个。

Oh, I love it.

好的。

Okay.

行吧？

Alright?

对。

Yeah.

明白。

Okay.

把家丑外扬，也就是在社交媒体上公开朋友间的矛盾。

Airing out dirty laundry aka confronting friend drama on social media.

哦，我比较含蓄。

Oh, subtle.

我对这事挺低调的。

I'm subtle about that.

行吧。

Alright.

我不喜欢闹剧，也不喜欢卷进去。

Because I don't like drama, and I don't like to be in it.

所以但凡有什么事，我总在后面端着茶杯，吃瓜看戏。

So if there's anything that's going on, I'm always in the back with the tea, with the tea cup.

好。

Okay.

因为我就是想知道，到底有什么瓜？

Because I'm like, I wanna know what's what's the tea?

到底发生啥了？

What's going on?

我从来没在社交媒体上跟人正面冲突过。

I never really had to confront people online like that.

所以你就任它慢慢消停了？

So you just kinda let it fade and fizzle?

对。

Mhmm.

好。

Okay.

行。

Alright.

或者根本没人讨厌你。

Or you just no one dislikes you.

你人好，这事就简单多了。

That that that makes it easier when you're nice.

对吧？

Right?

好。

Okay.

发新歌，我是说你自己去推广。

Putting out new music, and I mean that as in like self promoting it.