Chandler Kinney

当然。

Of course.

你的做法现在看来挺平衡的。

And yours, like, it seems like a healthy blend at this point.

没必要非得在两者之间偏重哪一个。

It's not like you have to put too much into one or the other.

它们并不会互相消耗。

They don't take from each other.

反而能互相补充。

Kind of complement each other.

对。

Mhmm.

但说实话，也不是。

But yeah, no.

我觉得这一切都挺累人的。

It all seems exhausting to me.

一切都让人精疲力尽。

It's all exhausting.

整天在片场忙活，然后还是觉得精疲力尽。

All day on set and then It's all exhausting.

还得

Also be

发帖。

posting.

每件事都成了生意。

Everything is a business.

当然。

Of course.

所以我尊重那些网红。

So I respect influencers.

是的。

Yeah.

我尊重我其他的演员同行。

I respect like my fellow actors.

大家都是在拼命努力，各自打拼，尽自己最大的努力。

Like it's all hard work and we're all just out here like grinding and doing our best.

要应对这些事情，其实挺不容易的。

It's No for interesting to kind of navigate that.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得不管怎样，真正有才华的人最终都会脱颖而出。

And I think the talent no matter what will always rise to the top.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Yeah.

我干这行已经十年了。

I mean, I've been doing this for ten years.

所以这一直是一个稳定而缓慢的增长过程。

And so it's it's been like a steady a steady gradual grow.

通常就是这样，偶尔有人突然爆红，能一直保持下去，但大多数时候，人们看不到那十年的坚持，然后就说‘一夜成名’，其实那是个漫长的夜晚，因为……

And so as it normally is, few people here and there that go viral and you know are able to maintain it but for the most part it's the ten years that people don't see and then it's like oh overnight success it's like that was a long night because it

你提到可持续性，这点确实说到了关键。

was like But like yeah you touched on like sustainability.

这又是另一回事了。

That's another thing.

当你真正投入了时间、努力和汗水，维持下去就会容易很多。

Like when you really do put in the work and the time and the effort, it's easier to sustain.

一旦你熬到了另一边，不管是名气还是别的什么，

Like once you get to the other side, level of like whatever whatever fame or I don't know.

其实就是工作量和所有这些事。

Well, it's just the workload and all of it.

这整个过程，真的是一门学问。

Like, it's it's a whole thing.

还有些时候，你会看到有些人一下子蹿到顶端，却完全不知道该怎么应对，简直像遭遇了文化冲击。

And then other times, like, you see people that kind of just shoot to the top and then they don't know what to do with themselves because it's almost culture shock.

没错，确实如此。

Like No, for sure.

这整个事情真的很复杂。

It's a whole yeah.

你可能以为自己想要那样的生活，但真到了那一步，你才会明白，其实并不是那么回事。

And you may think you might think you want it, but then you're actually in it and you're like, yeah.

算了吧。

Nope.

我不适合那种生活，你知道的。

Not for me, you know.

说得太对了。

Exactly.

这确实不容易，但归根结底，我们都是普通人，都在摸索着往前走。

It's rough, but I think at the end of the day, we're all humans and we're all just like trying to figure it out.

没错。

Exactly.

真的就是如此。

Literally.

一天天来。

Day by day.

一天天来。

Day by day.

你还记得吗？你第一次说想当演员的时候，不是说十年吗？

Do you remember because you said ten years the first time that you said to yourself, oh, I want to be an actress.

对我来说，那并不是一个明确的决定。

For me, it wasn't necessarily a clear decision.

我最早是跳舞的，三岁就开始跳了。

I was a dancer first and I started dancing when I was three.

那时候我参加的是竞技类舞蹈比赛，真的全身心投入其中。

And I started in like the competitive world, actually going to like dance competitions and like doing that whole thing.

姐妹，我看过《舞林争霸》。

Girl, I've seen Dance Moms.

你完全可以做到那样。

You can make it that.

没错。

Exactly.

就是那么回事。

It was just that.

后来我换了一家舞室，远离了那种环境，专心打磨自己的技艺。

And then I switched studios and moved away from that and started just really focusing and honing in on my my craft.

我知道自己想成为一名职业舞者，有朝一日加入舞团。

And I knew I wanted to be a professional dancer and join a company one day.

然后发生了一件特别意外的事——我得到了为盖璞服装广告试镜的机会。

And then this crazy thing happened where I got the opportunity to audition for a Gap commercial like the Clothing

还有那个系列。

And Line

所以我去参加了试镜，是通过我的舞蹈工作室——Debbie on Dance Academy推荐的。

so I went in, I auditioned, this was through my dance studio, Debbie on Dance Academy.

明白了。

Okay.

结果我成功拿到了这个角色，拍摄在索尼片场进行了整整一周，这可不常见，你知道的，一般商业广告哪有这么长的拍摄期。

And so and I booked it and it was this crazy one week shoot on the Sony lot, which by the way is not normal for, you know, a commercial.

是啊。

Yeah.

我也没想到会这样。

Wouldn't have expected that.

但其实那是一整套打包的项目。

But it was actually like a whole package.

包括好几个广告和一个线上短片。

It was a couple commercials and online spot.

整个就是一档大工程。

It was it was a thing.

然后这段视频就火了，全都是在YouTube上流传。

And then it went viral and it was just like YouTube.

那些叫什么来着？恶搞视频？

What what are they called parodies?

对，就是那个。

Oh, yeah.

YouTube上到处都是这种恶搞视频。

YouTube parodies everywhere.

人人都在讨论，我们太火了，后来还被邀请上马里奥·洛佩兹的《娱乐今天》节目。

Like, everybody was talking about And we were it was so popular that we were invited to Mario Lopez's Extra.

哇，真的吗？

Oh, wow.

嗯，就是去那儿做个简短的客串。

Okay.

就露个脸，演一小段。

Just like do a little guest spot on it.

是的

Uh-huh.

跟那头驼鹿聊聊。

Talk to the moose.

就是那种你能搜到的，比如钱德勒·金尼的盖普广告，一搜就出来那个。

That's the one you can type in like Chandler Kinney Gap commercial like it comes up.

我讲这个故事只是想说，要不是当时那经历太疯狂、太奇葩，又火了，还引出这么多后续，我根本不会拿到经纪人，也不会去上表演课，然后……

And so but I just I say that story just because if it had not been a crazy weird experience and hadn't gone viral and like all these things like come from it, then I would never had gotten an agent and then never would have started acting classes and then

而且我们之前录之前还聊到，你是个全能型人才。

Well, and we were talking before we hit record on this about you're a triple threat.

对。

Mhmm.

你会跳舞，这个我们知道；你会演戏，这个我们也知道；但你刚才轻描淡写地带过了你还会唱歌这件事。

You dance, we know of, you act, you know of, and you just skimmed over very quickly the part where you do sing as well.

我可不打算让你当场表演。

I'm not gonna put you on the spot.

你得去迪士尼频道看《僵尸2》才能听到。

You have to tune in to Zombies 2 on Disney Channel to hear that.

但挺有意思的，我一直想，如果上帝赐给我这副嗓子，我大概只会用它来当主持人，毕竟我只会说话，还不至于吵得人耳朵疼。

But it's interesting because I always think if I was gifted by God this voice, would see look, I'm using it as a host because all I can do is talk and it doesn't make your ears bleed.

可要是让我唱歌，我真没这本事。

But if I were to sing, I don't have that skill.

你可是天生就有这天赋，但你跟我完全相反。

You're blessed with it, but you actually are someone who would do the opposite of me.

你反而有点儿躲着它。

You're you shy away from it a little bit.

百分之百。

1000%.

是的。

Yeah.

我在这件事上确实有点儿内向，没错。

I am kind of a shy person in that regard Okay.

至少我唱歌这方面是这样。

Least, like, with my singing.

我从来不在任何人面前唱歌， anywhere。

I don't sing for anybody anywhere ever.

所以之前听过我唱歌的那几个人，都是在浴室里偶然听到的。

So the few people that have heard me sing before this movie just, like, heard me in the shower.

大概是我妈有时候跟我一起洗碗的时候听见过。

I guess my mom and like me maybe like doing the dishes.

我兄弟们听过之后说，哎，她可能真有点天赋。

My brothers heard me saying and they're like, oh, maybe she has something.

但我就是坚决不唱。

But no, I I just I refused.

你这次试镜的时候得唱歌吗？

Did you have to sing in this audition process?

是的。

Yes.

好吧。

Okay.

这下可有点让人紧张了。

So that's a little intimidating now.

是啊。

Yeah.

确实挺让人紧张的。

Was intimidating.

有个挺有意思的事。

Funny story.

我和皮尔斯，他演怀亚特。

So Pierce and I, who he plays Wyatt.

对。

Mhmm.

我们一起去参加了化学反应试镜。

Went in together for a chemistry read.

这其实是最后一次试镜的最后几轮了。

This was like the last round for last round for auditions.

那时候我已经和好多其他演怀亚特的演员试过镜了。

And I had already gone in with like so many other Wyatts.

他呢，也和一大堆不同的威尔拉试过镜。

He had gone in with a ton of different Willa's.

最后我们终于被配在一起，他们让我们对唱。

And so we finally got paired up and they asked us to sing.

他特别体贴。

And so he's so sweet.

他走到房间角落，转过身去，怕我紧张什么的。

He goes to the corner of the room and he turns around so as not to like make me nervous or whatever.

哦，就是背对着你。

Oh, like away from you.

对。

Yeah.

他转过身去，说是给我点私人空间，这还挺搞笑的，因为房间里明明有二十个迪士尼高管正盯着我看呢。

Like, he turns away to, like, give me privacy, which is funny because, like, there's already 20 Disney executives, like, watching me do my thing.

所以我也就随便唱了唱。

So I, you know, do a little whatever.

然后我们换过来，他特别紧张，因为导演保罗在我唱完之后就说：‘皮尔斯，你得超过她。’

And then we we switch and he's really nervous because Paul, the director, after I sang, he was like, oh, top that, Pierce.

于是他就说：‘行，那我现在转过身去吧。’

And he was like, okay, like He's like, I'm just gonna turn around now.

是啊。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

但我没转过身。

But I didn't turn around.

我就一直看着他，心里想：天啊，他真厉害。

I just like watched him and I was like, wow, he's so good.

对吧？

Right?

所以我们现在想起来都觉得好笑，因为我根本没收到通知说要给他留私人空间。

And so that's something that we laugh about because I didn't get the memo that I was supposed to like give him his privacy.

我才不会呢。

I would No.

他表现得太棒了，而我好像也还行，毕竟我们俩都被选进电影了。

He was great and apparently I did alright too because we got cast in the movie so.

明白了。

Okay.

是的。

Yeah.

你之前提到过，比如你12岁的时候。

Do you think then because you said like when you were 12 for instance.

你觉得那时候在试镜房间里更紧张，还是现在19岁反而更紧张？

Do you feel as though it was more intimidating then to be in the audition room or do you feel as though at 19 it's actually more intimidating?

现在更让人紧张了。

It's more intimidating now.

没错。

Right.

当然了，因为我清楚可能会发生什么。

Yeah for sure because I I know what could happen.

我知道如果没成功会意味着什么。

I know what it would mean if it didn't happen.

我脑子里现在想的东西太多了。

There's just so much more going through my brain.

但十二岁那会儿，就觉得挺好玩的，能假装成别人，更像是在玩游戏。

Whereas if I was you know when I was 12 it was just like well this is fun and you know I get to pretend to be someone and it's kind of more dance.

这是一份事业。

It's a career.

他们让我去试镜，说就当是玩个小游戏。

They asked me to do like it's just a little fun game of It's

十二岁的时候这就像个爱好，算是课外活动吧，你猜怎么着？

kind a hobby at 12 so it feels like extracurricular if you will because guess what?

那个月你不用交房租，妈妈还会接你回家吃晚饭？

You don't have rent due that month and mom's gonna take you home for dinner?

得付账单了。

Bills to pay.

没错。

Exactly.

你那时候确实不用考虑这些。

You don't have yeah exactly.

生活还是照常运转，但你现在作为成年人，感受到这种压力了吗？

Life still goes around the same way as it did before but now are you feeling this added pressure as quote unquote this adult?

你都十八岁了？

You're over 18 years old?

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，如果

I mean, if

这事要是黄了，我可就真完了。

this doesn't work out, like, I'm low key screwed.

所以呢，确实有点压力。

So I mean, yeah, there's a bit of a pressure.

我笑，但其实是因为我想哭。

I laugh, but I only laugh because, like, I wanna cry.

我知道，真的太对了。

Know I know the It's so true.

可以

Can

当然了。

for sure.

你知道吗，我得找个地方住，我得

You know, I need somewhere to stay, I'll

不，我觉得这种压力确实存在，因为一旦你对某件事做出承诺，你就等于在说：‘这就是我最重要的事。’

hang No, you I think it's there is like that pressure because with anything making a commitment to something you're saying, all right, like this is my number one.

我会把它放在首位。

I'm going to prioritize this.

而一旦这样做了，就伴随着风险和责任——你得尽一切努力去实现自己的目标。

And, you know, with that there is risk and, you know, a responsibility to to do everything in your power to get that thing to to achieve your your goals.

所以，说实话，这种压力很大程度上是自己给自己的。

And so, yeah, there's a lot of self induced pressure pressure, I would say.

是的。

Yeah.

你以前也待过迪士尼，但你知道，一旦和迪士尼挂钩，你就会被提升到一个更高的层次，对吧？

Do you feel and you've been a part of Disney before, but of course, with Disney kind of comes this level in which you are elevated to.

没错。

Right?

大家都会把你捧上神坛。

Everyone kind of puts you on this pedestal.

你们都没注意到她其实被捧得很高。

You guys don't notice she's on a pedestal.

对吧？

Right?

她的地位比我高多了。

She's higher up than me.

这跟迪士尼脱不了关系，我喜欢那些我遇过的迪士尼员工，因为他们特别有修养。

It just comes with Disney, and I love kids that I've met from Disney because they're polished.

他们回答问题总是有理有据，非常到位。

They, you know, they really give well informed answers.

不过话说回来，你都19岁了，早就不是小孩了。

But with that being said, and you are 19, you're not a kid Yeah.

你有没有感觉到，我不敢说这是额外的压力，但你是不是给自己施加了某种压力，要当好这个榜样，符合大家对迪士尼形象的期待，不能辜负迪士尼，也不能让粉丝失望？

Do you feel that I don't wanna call it added pressure, but just this I guess pressure maybe you put on your own self to be this type of role model and fit this Disney mold that has been created in in a way of, like, to not let Disney down, to let those fans down in your personal life in a sense.

我觉得是这样。

I would say so.

我小时候一直看迪士尼的片子。

I grew up watching Disney.

那时候那些最早的迪士尼明星都是我的偶像。

So all those those like OG Disney stars were my idols.

是的。

Yeah.

我特别想成为他们那样的人。

And I just wanted nothing more than to just be like that, be them.

所以现在。

And so now

因为他们太完美了。

because they're perfect.

简直就是。

Literally like

他们确实完美。

they're perfect.

你看到的就是这样。

That's what you see.

你想想，他们在节目里、在社交媒体上，总给人一种期待感，而且每次都毫不例外地满足这种期待。

You know, you see them on their shows and on social media and they there is, like, this level of expectation and they always meet that.

你知道他们会是什么样子。

You know what you're going to get

有

with

总的来说，他们确实都挺稳定的。

them for the most part, I guess.

不过呢，你得承认

Well, it's like you have to get

有些人已经脱离了迪士尼那种形象。

some people deviated from that Disney image.

当然，就像你一旦不再想说‘毕业’，但其实你已经

Of course, like once I you don't wanna say graduate but graduate, you

你想做什么都可以。

can do whatever you want.

你愿意怎么干都行。

Like more power to you.

你就是一个例子，我觉得。

You're just an example, I think.

你的角色是个榜样，所以你和个人生活也都成了迪士尼的代表，你自然就成了榜样。

Your character is an example so then you and your personal life are also a reflection of Disney and thus you are an example.

是的。

Yeah.

但有意思的是，19岁的时候

But it is interesting at 19

那种责任感确实是存在的。

like responsibility that definitely is there.

而且我知道，我以前也是那些孩子之一，特别崇拜那些明星。

And so, you know, knowing that I was once one of those kids that looked up to those those stars and just idolize them.

想到我现在可能成为其他孩子、那些容易受影响的年轻孩子的榜样，我真的觉得挺害怕的，简直不敢相信。

Trying to comprehend the idea that I am that now for other people, like for other children, like impressionable young children is like really scary because I'm like, wow.

确实如此。

It's true.

我多多少少还是有点影响力的。

I have have like influence in some way.

至少你现在意识到，自己是在把这份影响传递下去，对吧？

At least It's you realize like you're paying it forward right?

你现在正处于一个清醒意识到这一点的阶段。

It's you're at a point now where you're aware of.

那咱们聊聊这个吧。

Let's okay talk a little bit then.

我很好奇，你是个喜欢遵守规则的人吗？

Are you I'm curious like a rule follower?

就你自己而言。

You yourself.

你是不是那种性格上喜欢打破规则的人？

Are you someone that because your character is a rule breaker.

狼人就是一群不守规矩的人。

The werewolves are rule breakers

但你不一样。

but you.

某种程度上，我觉得是这样。

To an extent, I would say.

我觉得规则总可以稍微灵活一点。

I think there's always a little bit of room to bend the rules.

因为总得学会变通，对吧？

Because you gotta learn, right?

对。

Yeah.

你小时候家里有规矩吗？

I mean Were there rules in the house growing up?

家里当时有特别严格的规矩要遵守吗？

Are there like strict rules that you had to abide by?

有的。

Yes.

我从来没违反过那些规矩。

I did not break those.

小时候我可是个乖孩子。

I was like goody two shoes as a kid.

我又是最小的，还是家里唯一的女孩。

I was also like the youngest and the only girl.

所以我就像是全家最完美的小宝贝，所有调皮捣蛋的事都留给兄弟们去做。

So like I was like the perfect like little baby of the family and I left all the rule breaking to my brothers.

挺聪明的。

So Smart.

他们挨罚的时候，我反而能多得一份甜点，这样挺好的。

And they would get in trouble and I would get, like, extra dessert and so it was fine.

我真的很喜欢那段生活。

Like, I loved that part of my life.

不会。

No.

我也会那样。

I I would too.

谁不会呢？

Who wouldn't?

你们家有什么规矩吗？

Was there any, like, sort of rules in your house?

就是说，你得达到我们家定的那些标准。

It's like, look, you need to meet these household standards that we have as a family.

对。

Mhmm.

要是做不到，演戏这事就别想了。

And if you don't, acting is actually no longer on the table for you.

你当时有什么必须保持住的东西吗？

Was there something that you had to keep up?

有。

Yes.

成绩。

Grades.

当然。

Okay.

肯定的。

For sure.

尤其是小时候，我妈妈总说，这事儿太不稳定了。

Especially at a young age, my mom was like, this can't this something that is so like unpredictable.

没错。

Right.

这个行业里，什么都靠不住。

You cannot rely on anything in this industry.

这你没法控制。

It's out of your control.

很多事都是这样。

A lot it.

这根本不是你能决定的。

It's out

完全不由你掌控。

of your control.

这也不是谁的错。

And it's not it's no one's fault.

对。

No.

这纯粹就是个生意。

It's just a business.

所以我一直记得，那时候就是这么个情况。

And so I just remember that was like a thing.

她当时说，这绝对不能影响你的成绩和学业。

She was like, this cannot affect your grades and your education.

所以我一直都很注重这一点。

And so that's something that I've always tried to like prioritize.

从小学到高中，我一直是全优生。

And I was like a straight a student student through middle school and high school.

所以只要有必要，我就会熬夜，哪怕通宵也要把该做的事做完。

And so that's just something that, like, I would stay up if I had to work through the night just to continue doing the things that I was doing.

我记得我妈特别爱讲这个故事。

I remember my mom loves to tell this story.

我做了点什么，反正就是干了点啥事。

She was she I did something, whatever I did.

那时候我大概五岁左右。

I I was like probably five.

可能我违反了什么规矩吧。

And I maybe I don't know, broke a rule of some sort.

她说，你要是再这样，就别想去上舞蹈课了。

And she was like, you know, if you do that again, you can't go to dance class.

我要把你从舞蹈班里撤出来。

You know, I'm taking you out of dance.

我当时就崩溃了。

And I lost it.

哭得稀里哗啦。

I bawled.

眼泪止都止不住。

I was sobbing.

我特别想继续跳舞，继续做我喜欢的事。

I was so desperate to, like, continue dancing and, like, doing the things that I loved.

她一看我这样，也慌了，说：等等，别急。

She was beside herself and she was like, you know what, actually, wait, hold up.

我不该剥夺你跳舞的权利。

I'm not gonna take that away from you.

以后别再这样了。

Just don't do that again.

但不，表演和整个娱乐行业对我来说一直都很重要，真的。

But no, performing and like entertainment as a whole was always something that was so important to Well,

话说回来，你想想，也许这确实是个宝贵的人生教训，尤其是在这个行业，因为这些东西随时可能被拿走，对吧？

I mean when you think about it maybe it was a good life lesson especially in this industry is that it can be taken away, right?

事情往往不是你能掌控的。

It's not always in your control.

你做了这个，做了那个，结果呢，姑娘？

You do this, you do that, like guess what girl?

一眨眼，它就没了。

It can go away like that.

就这么没了。

Like that.

可惜啊。

Unfortunately.

不过她的情况不一样，咱们之前也说了，这事儿不会离她而去。

Well, it's not going away for her though, like we said.

希望真的不会。

Hopefully not.

而且你还有个常驻角色。

Mean And you have a reoccurring role.

咱们聊了这么多僵尸啊之类的东西，但《福克斯》这部剧完全是另一个极端。

We've dived in a lot, you know, about zombies and whatnot, but on Fox was just totally on the other end of the spectrum Yeah.

仔细想想，确实如此。

When you think about Totally.

我觉得这部剧本身，《致命武器》。

I guess the series itself, Lethal Weapon.

到目前为止，大家最认得你的，是不是这部剧？

Would you say this is the one you're recognized for the most at this point?

《福克斯》？

Fox?

是的

Yeah.

《致命武器》没错。

The Lethal Yeah.

对

Yeah.

我觉得是这样。

Would say so.

好的。

Okay.

那真的特别有意思。

That that was really fun.

我记得拍试播集的时候，根本没想到它会这么火。

I remember, like, when we did the pilot, I had no idea how big of a deal it was.

对

Mhmm.

这是《致命武器》。

It's Lethal Weapon.

我当时根本不知道这个系列有多火，也没听说过它的粉丝群体，因为我才十五岁，是个小屁孩。

Like, I didn't I was not aware of the franchise or the following that it had because I was like a 15 year old, like, teen

观众群体也比你现在的迪士尼观众要年长一些。

girl like it was The audience a bit older than I'm sure your Disney audience is gonna be.

是的。

Yeah.

对于

For

当然。

sure.

从那会儿转到现在的风格，变化挺大的。因为黄金时段的剧集通常很自然、很安静，就像我现在跟你聊天这样；而迪士尼的风格更夸张一点，戏剧张力更强，所以这个转变还挺有意思的。

And so the transition from that to this was a big one just because, you know, like primetime television is very natural and like quiet and it's just how I'm talking to you now where Disney is a little bit more elevated and the stakes are higher and so that was a fun transition.

但拍《致命武器》那段时间，是我人生中特别美好的一段经历，那是我第一次当常驻主演。能长时间扮演一个角色，让我有机会尝试新东西，做各种尝试。

But Lethal was just like a wonderful time in my life for me to it was the first series regular role that And I so portraying a character for that long really gave me the opportunity to, I don't know, try new things, experiment Yeah.

从这个角度去探索角色的成长与变化。

Explore character arc and development in that way.

这可不是我们平时看到的那种普通舞蹈。

And it wasn't your typical dancing, you know, that we're gonna see in this.

我们已经看过你演这类角色了。

So we've seen you in that type of role now.

你还会在《僵尸》里出现。

You know, we're gonna see you in Zombies as well too.

接下来你最想尝试什么样的角色？

Where what would you like to explore next?

有没有哪种角色，是你自己平时根本不会去做的？

Any sort of characters that you would maybe that you yourself Yeah.

比如生活中你绝对不可能去扮演的那种人。

Wouldn't ever do in your actual life, let's say.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得这些角色在屏幕上活过来了，这正是我喜欢薇洛的原因，她实在太强势、太有气场了。

I think those are living out on screen, which is why I love Willow because she's so ferocious and fierce.

我常想，要是我能像她那样大摇大摆地走过走廊，那该多好，想想能干出多少事来。

And I'm like, if only I could walk through the halls like that, like, oh, the things I could do anyway.

我特别想演一个角色，不过我不想直接说是个反派。

I think a character that I would love to play would be I don't want to say a villain.

比如说，漫威里那种，你看，就是这种。

Like, maybe a Marvel Hey, there you go.

就是漫威里的角色。

But like, Marvel

不管怎样，都是超级英雄。

superhero either way.

咱们干脆把这部系列片给搭起来吧，姑娘。

Let's set up that franchise, girl.

没错。

Yep.

就是这个系列。

That franchise.

我下一步就想加入这个系列。

Is where I plan to be next.

那肯定会很有趣。

That would be fun.

我觉得这样能让你的两个世界稍微融合在一起。

I feel like that would kinda mold your worlds together a bit.

是的。

Yeah.

确实会。

Would.

你懂的。

You know?

既有超级英雄的元素，又带着迪士尼那种轻松有趣的风格。

You got the superhero aspect, kind of the fun Disney part of it all.

还有那种关乎生死的重大责任，你知道的，你承担的角色

And then also that like serious life or death role, you know, that you're taking on

不过不管什么我都愿意尝试

as So but I'd be down for anything.

把我的各种技能结合起来，比如跳舞和唱歌，真的特别有意思

And incorporating my different skills, guess like dancing and singing was so much fun.

要是能把这些和武术结合起来就好了

So getting to do that with martial arts.

我本来想说

Oh, was gonna say,

你确实练过武术

and you've done martial arts.

是的

Yeah.

黑带

A black belt

在高等法院。

in high court.

不客气。

You're welcome.

所以 anyone 在找这个角色的话

So Anyone looking for that character

就在这儿。

right here.

我就在这儿。

I'm right here.

太棒了。

Love it.

好的。

Okay.

快说一下，我想聊聊名气的事，因为仔细想想，你确实参与过很多知名平台。

Quickly, I just wanna hit on fame because you have been a part of so many different reputable networks when I come to think of it.

你有迪士尼。

You've got Disney.

我之前提过尼克儿童频道，还有亚马逊。

I've said Nickelodeon before, Amazon.

亚马逊。

Amazon.

她都合作过这些平台。

She's hit them all.

比如，你基本上把各大平台都跑遍了。

Like, you did pretty much a lot of the boxes.

她让我去各个圈子转转。

She made my rounds.

对。

Yes.

所以我想知道，在两极端，你会怎么评价？

So my question with that is, what would you say on both ends of the spectrum?

对。

Mhmm.

名气带来的好处，还有你后来意识到的名气的弊端。

The upside of fame and then also something you realize that was the downside of fame.

不好意思。

Excuse me.

我觉得好处之一就是影响力，是的。

I guess an upside would be the influence Mhmm.

就是我们之前聊到的那个。

That we were talking about.

我觉得每个人都想为这个世界带来一些改变。

Just I feel like everybody wants to make a difference in the world.

拥有一个平台，就能让你实现这个目标，这一点我从来不敢轻视。

And so having a platform, like, gives you the ability to do that, which is something that I do not take lightly.

所以我能说的、能推广的、能带进这个世界的东西，自然会有一群人听到。

So the things that I get to say and promote and, you know, bring into this world automatically automatically kind of have that group of people that will hear it.

但我知道一些特别聪明的人，却根本没有这样的平台。

Whereas like I know some brilliant people that just don't have like a platform.

没错，确实如此。

No, it's true.

这事儿挺奇怪的。

And, you know, it's it's it's a weird thing.

名气这东西真的很怪。

Fame is very weird.

不过我觉得，这也挺了不起的。

But I guess that's something that's really cool.

我很庆幸，能有机会谈论我创办的一个组织。

And I love, you know, I get to talk about I have an organization.

对。

Right.

所以，慈善对我来说真的非常重要。

And so yeah, philanthropy is something that's really important to me.

所以我能有机会聊到这个，也让越来越多的人了解，尤其是这个年龄段的年轻人，真的很棒，因为他们还很年轻

So that's something that I get to talk about and more people get to learn about it, especially with this demographic, it's really cool because it's like they're young

非常年轻。

so Very young.

能借此让年轻人接触到这些，我觉得挺好的。

Just to introduce people to that, I guess, is cool.

而且可以快速地让大家都知道，没错。

And throw out really quickly where everyone can Yeah.

钱德勒的朋友

Chandler's friends

还有Instagram上的@Chandler's_friends。

and Chandler Chandler's underscore friends on Instagram.

不过今年晚些时候，我们会用这个平台做更多有趣的项目。

But we're doing a lot more fun projects with that later this year.

你可以关注那里，随时了解最新动态。

But I will I guess you could stay updated there.

说到成名的缺点，我觉得就是你的世界会变得特别封闭。

As far as a downside goes to fame, I would just say your world becomes pretty isolated.

挺有意思的，对吧？

It's interesting, right?

是的。

Yeah.

我不太明白。

I don't understand.

我懂。

I get it.

道理我明白，但就是很难接受。

Like, I but it's hard to swallow it.

很难真正理解，因为

Like, it's hard to comprehend it because

你根本说不清这事儿是怎么发生的。

you don't really know how it happens.

但你会自然而然地变得更加保护隐私。

But like, one, you automatically become more protective and private.

开始

Start

稍微提高一点。

going up a bit.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

这其实就是一种自我保护的机制。

And it's just like it's just a like defense mechanism,

我觉得这是一种应对方式

I guess, or like a way to cope with

因为你总会遇到一些人，根本猜不透他们的真实意图。

like, you know, because you do come across people that you don't really know their intentions.

是的。

Yeah.

比如他们为什么要跟你搭话。

Like why they're talking to you.

所以就有这种顾虑。

So there's that.

而且你记得吗，

And Do remember the

你第一次意识到这一点是什么时候？

first time you realized that?

我就有过这种体会。

Like, I realized that.

我不是要你去点名谁。

And I'm not asking you to call anyone out.

我只是说，比如苏西。

Just like just like or just Well, like Susie.

是的。

Yeah.

那是苏西Q。

That's Susie q.

明白了。

Okay.

苏西Q。

Susie q.

约翰·多伊。

John Doe.

我不记得第一次是什么时候，但记得青春期时这种情况越来越频繁，那会儿真是最难熬的阶段，因为本来就变化太多。

I don't I don't remember the first time, but I remember it became more of a reoccurring thing, like in my teen years, which is like the worst time because there's already so much changing.

你都不知道该信谁。

So you don't know who to trust.

你不知道谁真站在你这边。

You don't know who's in your corner.

你连自己都不了解。

You don't know yourself.

连自己都不了解。

Don't even know yourself.

所以这确实是个问题。

So so that's that's a thing.

不过，我想是吧。

But yeah, I guess.

是的。

Yeah.

你用什么？

What do you use?

真让人孤单。

So isolating.

我觉得不是这样，

I feel like no,

但确实可能吧。

but can be.

我明白你的意思。

I hear you.

是的。

Yeah.

我有自己的小圈子，有我信赖的伙伴，有家人，还有行业里那些能理解我的人，我都特别珍惜。

It's like a you have your I have my tight knit group of people and like my community and I love them and I have my family and I have people in the industry too that get it.

对。

Yeah.

而且每天都会认识新的人。

And I have like you meet more people every day.

当然。

Of course.

所以这倒也不是什么坏事，只是我也不太好说。

So it's it's not like let me not say it's a bad thing because it's like I don't know.

这世界挺怪的，但同时也精彩美好，我有太多正面的话想说。

It's a weird world but it's amazing and wonderful and I have like the best things to say about it.

不是的。

No.

你处理得挺好的。

It looks like you're navigating it really well.

对。

Yeah.

不过说起来，某种程度上你确实把自己的圈子保持得比较小，一方面是为了保护自己，另一方面也是因为别人对你的看法确实挺重要的。

But with I guess, kind of on that topic, you do keep your world smaller in a sense because of you'll you wanna protect yourself to, you know, a certain degree but also because what people think of you because you do have this influence matters.

对。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

所以我想问，你是怎么应对别人对你的看法的？

So my question is how do you deal with the way in which people think of you?

我觉得这没法控制。

I don't think you can.

不行。

No.

因为这确实是我一直纠结的问题。

Because I feel like that's a question that I've struggled with.

我很多朋友也都在为此困扰。

I know a lot of my friends have struggled with.

不只是在这一行的人。

Not even being in the industry.

这适用于任何人，都会为别人怎么看自己而焦虑，这种担忧一直挥之不去。

This goes for anybody, you know, like struggling to figure out, like, what people think of you and having that be like a constant worry.

我觉得最好的办法就是专心做好自己，

And I think the best thing is just to kind of focus on you and

你会看评论吗，还是就只是

Do you read the comments or just kind

我尽量不看，

of like I try not

对，

to.

嗯，明白了，

Okay.

你知道，有时候我心情不好的时候，

You know, sometimes if I'm feeling

我经常听到这种回答，

I hear that answer a lot.

是的。

Yeah.

还有你

And, you

你知道的，我就随它去吧。

know, I'm just kind of whatever.

我会看看评论，然后想，算了，没事的。

Like, I'll read them and I'm like, alright, well, you know, it's fine.

我干脆去吃点冰淇淋，随它吧。

I'm gonna go eat some ice cream and like, whatever.

你其实能看出来

You can tell

刷页面的时候，光看表情符号，大概就能猜到会怎样。

when you're scrolling, like, by the emojis, like, maybe how it's gonna go.

我直接划过去那个词就好

Like, I scroll past that word instead

而不是那个红心。

of red heart.

好的。

Okay.

我来读。

I'll read.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

但说实话，我觉得对任何人来说

But yeah, I think for anybody that's

都不只是表面上的事。

not even just like a face thing.

没错，你不能总担心别人怎么看你，因为你根本控制不了别人的看法。

No, It's for like, you can't worry what people think of you because you can't control that.

我是说，我只关注那些我能掌控的事情，而不是瞎操心别的。

Like, I focus on controlling or just worrying about the things that are within my control.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得再没有比这更好的收尾了。

I mean I don't think there's any better way to end it than that.

真的，谢谢你。

I mean Thank you.

我们很喜欢你。

We love you.

别忘了关注你的旅程，还有一定要抓到那些僵尸啊。

Make sure again I want people to be following you with your journey and also make sure you catch Zombies.

那肯定的。

That for sure.

情人节。

Valentine's Day.

你可以在Instagram和Twitter上关注我，账号都是Chandler LK。

And then you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter and all the things at Chandler LK.

完美。

Perfect.

好的。

Okay.

谢谢你们。

Well, you guys thank you

非常感谢收听，我们下次再见。

so much for listening and we will see you all next time.

谢谢。

Thank you.

再见。

Bye.