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Welcome to Hey Tablo.
我最近去了纽约,跟一些老朋友聚了聚,不过他们其实并不老。
So I was in New York recently, and I was hanging out with some old friends, but they're not old.
他们是老朋友,但年纪比我小。
They're old friends, but they're younger than me.
我聊起MBTI,他们就说:'洪,现在没人玩MBTI了。'
And I was talking about MBTI and they were like, Hong, people don't do MBTI anymore.
你太落伍了。
You're so old.
我当时就想,咱们这是回到星座时代了吗?
I was like, did we go back to constellations?
嘿,Tablo。
Hey, Tablo.
看来现在在社交场合说自己是ENFP,已经不流行了。
Okay, apparently like now saying your ENFP is not gonna fly in a social setting.
现在得用九型人格了。
It has to be an Enneagram.
我查了一下,九型人格比MBTI更厉害,因为它讲的是深层的动机、恐惧和核心渴望。
So I looked it up and Enneagrams are better than MBTI because it focuses on deep seated motivation, fears, and core desires.
我一听就有点慌了。
Already I'm scared.
它不光告诉你是什么,还告诉你为什么。
So it uncovers why and not just what you are.
不像MBTI就四个字母,‘哦,我是这种性格’,这个玩意儿深多了。
So instead of just a four letter thing like, Oh, I'm this kind of personality, this thing goes way deeper apparently.
其实我本来就不爱做MBTI测试。
And I didn't even like doing the MBTI test.
我更喜欢直接说:我是巨蟹座,血型A。
I personally like sticking to I'm a cancer and I'm blood type A.
在韩国,血型这事儿可真挺重要的。
In Korea, the blood type thing really matters.
以前在社交场合,要是没话找话,只要问一句‘你是B型血吗?’就能撑上整整五十年。
It kept us afloat in social settings for about five decades where if you had nothing to say and you had to do small talk, you could just be like, Are you type B?
对方就会说:‘对啊,你怎么知道的?’
And they're like, Yeah, how did you know?
哎呀,你看起来就是B型血嘛。
Oh, you look like a type B.
据说A型的人特别认真,容易紧张,也挺敏感的。
So like, A is supposedly, you know B jaw is really easy, which is like, you know, gets hurt is a little sensitive, A.
而B型呢,感觉更随性一点,我觉得。
And B is a little more cool, I think.
反正现在流行的是九型人格了。
Anyways, now it's Enneagram.
我打算做个测试,因为我在纽约的朋友老给我发消息。
So I'm gonna take one because my New York friends keep texting me.
他们老问:‘你做没做啊?’
They're like, Did you take it yet?
你做完了吗?
Did you take it yet?
把你结果发我,我帮你分析一下。
Send me what you are and I'll go through it for you.
我就说:兄弟,别急,放松点。
And I'm like, Okay bro, like chill.
行吧,那我也去做一下。
So I'm gonna take it.
你们要是想跟我一起做,去 personality dot co 就行,一起搞起来。
If you guys want to take it with me, it's at personality dot co so you can set it up and you can take it with me.
不过我做题的时候会边做边唠。
But I'm gonna talk in between.
这估计得是史上最啰嗦的性格测试了。
So this is gonna be the longest personality test ever.
开始测试。
Start test.
我现在就不想做了。
Already I don't wanna do it.
就是一堆点和颜色。
It's a bunch of dots and colors.
选一下每个说法有多符合你。
Choose how accurately each statement reflects you.
红色是完全不同意,最绿的是完全同意。
Red is strongly disagree and the greenest one is strongly agree.
行吧。
Okay.
我做每件事都追求准确和精细。
I strive for accuracy and precision in all my tasks.
一上来我就觉得性格测试有问题——我到底该答理想中的自己、想成为的样子,还是真实的自己?
Immediately, the problem I have with personality tests is like, I don't know if I'm supposed to answer as the ideal version of me, as who I aspire to be, or as who I really am.
还有第三种可能:那个我真真切切是,但一辈子都在压抑,因为不敢承认。
And then there's a third option who I actually really really am but have been repressing for like my whole life because I don't want to admit it to myself.
对吧?
Right?
现在我坐在镜头前,你们都在看在听,我想我得说实话了。
And now that I'm on screen and you are all watching and listening, I guess I have to be kind of honest here.
我听说啊,要是让朋友替你答,结果反而更准?
I heard actually like if your friends answer the question for you, it's more accurate?
嗯。
Okay.
我老婆也是这么说的。
That's what my wife said.
我第一次做MBTI的时候,没得到ENFP。
When I first took my MBTI, I didn't get ENFP.
我得到的是INFP。
I got INFP.
我老婆就问我:你答题的时候,是不是故意装得酷一点?
And my wife was like, Did you try to, like, look cool when you answered?
你是说,你当时故意选那些看起来很酷的答案?
Like, did you try to go for the cool answers?
我就说:没有啊。
And I was like, No.
我干嘛要那样做?
Why would I do that?
她直接说:你根本不可能是内向型!
And she's like, Because there's no fucking way you're an I.
我重新认真做了一次,结果变成了ENFP。
I took it again honestly, and I got an ENFP.
所以现在我有时候会问别人。
So I'll ask sometimes.
我做每件事都追求准确和严谨。
I strive for accuracy and precision in all my tasks.
我觉得我特别同意。
I think I strongly agree.
对吧?
Right?
行吧。
Okay.
我觉得我们的粉丝也会这么觉得。
I think our fans would agree.
这得花点时间。
This is gonna take a while.
行。
Okay.
我知道这是第一个问题。
I know this is the first question.
我在这第一个九型人格问题上卡住了。
I'm stuck on the first Enneagram question here.
行。
Okay.
我想选‘非常同意’,因为我觉得这话没错,但我是不是在刻意表现得靠谱又厉害啊?
Wanna say strongly agree because I think that's true, but am I trying to be, like, am I trying to look, like, responsible and awesome?
不是。
No.
我就喜欢准确和精确。
I I like accuracy and precision.
我特别注重细节,所以选非常同意。
I'm very detailed, so strongly agree.
我连自己工作里最微小的不一致和错误都能看出来。
I notice even the smallest inconsistencies and errors in my work.
好吧。
Okay.
这个没问题。
This okay.
我团队的人都在笑,我知道他们心里在想啥。
My team is laughing because I know what what they're thinking.
他们就说:‘那当然了!’
They're like, Oh hell yeah.
有没有比‘强烈同意’更强的表达?
Is there something stronger than strongly agree?
不过呢,这其实是个陷阱问题。
Because Okay, this is a trick question though.
我连你工作里最微小的不一致和错误都能看出来。
I notice even the smallest inconsistencies and errors in your work.
天哪,别这样。
Oh, no.
我加入一个嘻哈乐队已经二十多年了,我老是能注意到Mithra和Tukutz作品里那些特别细微的毛病。
I've been part of a a band, a hip hop group, for over two decades, and I noticed the smallest inconsistencies and errors in Mithra and Tukutz work all the time.
我就是忍不住,根本停不下来。
Like I can't help I can't stop noticing it.
简直快把我逼疯了。
It drives me insane.
但我也不确定我是不是也会注意到自己工作里的问题。
But I'm not sure if I notice it in my work.
要是我老婆现在看到这个,她肯定直接吼我:你别啰嗦了,赶紧回答问题!
If my wife is watching this right now, she'll be like, Just answer the fucking question!
天哪!
Oh my god!
你在家跟老婆待着的时候,她乱糟糟的你不在意,可你一乱她就受不了,是这样吗?
When you're at home with your wife, does her mess bother you and your mess is completely fine?
就是,你完全不觉得你那边乱有什么问题。
Like, it doesn't bother you at all.
因为这才是真正的判断标准。
Because that's how you can probably tell.
这问题挺难答的,因为我老婆特别爱干净。
Well, that's difficult because because my wife is she's extremely clean.
哦。
Oh.
所以这招不管用,但春春就把所有东西都堆在床上。
So that doesn't work, but Haru Haru just puts everything on her bed.
简直疯了。
It's crazy.
就是一堆东西乱七八糟地堆着。
Like, it's just a pile of stuff.
你掀开枕头,说不定能发现一包软糖。
Like, under a pillow, I'll find a, like, a bag of gummy bears.
她甚至会在食物底下再藏食物。
Under, like, under food, she will have food.
啥?
What?
你懂吧?
Okay?
就是说
Like
光年。
Light years.
我就想,那边明明有张桌子,你干嘛非得把床当桌子用?
And I'm like, there's a desk right there, like why are you using your bed as a table?
我注意到了,结果她有时候跑我房间来,还说:‘你也没好到哪儿去啊。’
So I noticed that and then she will sometimes come into my room and she'll be like, it's not like you're doing any better.
所以嘛,说到我自己的情况,我也说不准。
So I guess in my work, I'm not so sure.
我觉得我算是中立派吧。
I guess I'm a neutral.
抱歉啊,我正嚼着一颗软糖呢。
Sorry, I'm chewing on a gummy bear.
你要是在我们YouTube频道上看视频,早就知道了,别光听音频,干脆转过去看吧。
You would know that if you were watching it on our YouTube channel instead of just listening, So maybe switch over.
你知道啥最离谱吗?
You know what's crazy?
我手头这些软糖的颜色,正好就是我正在选的颜色。
The gummy bears I have right now correspond to the colors that I'm choosing from.
这事儿真够离谱的。
It is crazy.
你瞧瞧这个。
Look at this.
我完全不同意。
Strongly disagree.
我完全同意。
Strongly agree.
这到底是在搞什么名堂?
What the hell is going on here?
我也不知道自己怎么了。
Have I I don't know.
倒回去重放一遍。
Play it back.
行吧?
Okay?
你回过头想想,我是不是一直在吃我挑的那个颜色?
Go back and tell me, have I been eating the color I'm choosing?
那也太离谱了。
Because that would be crazy.
优化和改进系统或流程对我来说是重中之重。
Improving and refining systems or processes is a priority for me.
好了好了,我这会儿已经开始走神了。
Okay, I'm already starting to not pay attention.
哦,所以我要是想让工作流程更顺一点,你觉得咋样?
Oh, so if I'm trying to like to make the workflow better, I guess, what do you think?
我老是说效率的事儿。
I always talk about efficiency.
嘿,咱们能不能简化一下这流程?这样剪得快,也能早点儿到这儿,对吧?
Hey, let's cut down on this process so that we edit faster so that we get to this point faster, right?
你觉得呢?
What do you think?
我是强烈同意还是强烈反对?
Am I strong agree or strong disagree?
强烈反对。
Strong disagree.
你觉得是强烈反对?
You think it's a strongly disagree?
为什么?
Why?
我哪儿做错了?
What did I do?
我是不是其实想说强烈同意,好显得自己高效又有条理?
Did I Honestly, want to say strongly agree because it makes me sound efficient and systematic.
但我觉得自己其实比中立还低一点。
But I think I'm slightly less than neutral.
我属于不同意。
I'm a disagree.
我跟你说,我现在比做MBTI的时候诚实多了。
Let me just tell you, I'm already being way more honest than I was when I took my MBTI.
那时候做MBTI,我纯粹选那些听着很酷的答案。
Because for my MBTI, I seriously just chose all the answers that looked cool.
等等,一共有多少题?
Wait, how many questions are there?
九型人格测试有多少道题?
How many Enneagram questions are there?
如果下一道题是‘我很有耐心’,那我只能选强烈不同意了。
If the next question is I am patient, I'm gonna have to do strongly disagree.
九型人格测试有100到180道题?
Enneagram tests consist 100 to 180 questions?
唉,我真烦我那些纽约的朋友。
Oh man, I hate my New York friends.
他们就没点别的事可干吗?
Don't they have anything better to do?
行吧。
Okay.
别人或我自己一出错,我就容易挑刺。
I can become critical of myself or others when mistakes are made.
非常同意。
Strongly agree.
我刚才答得太快了,都没给团队留插话的机会。
I answered that really fast before my team can chime in.
嗯,行。
Okay.
我跟你说实话吧。
Let me just tell the truth.
我确实特别、特别爱挑刺。
I can be very, very critical.
这其实是我不喜欢的自己的一部分。
It's actually a part of me that I don't like.
我不喜欢这样,因为小时候我爸妈对我做的每件事都特别挑剔。
I don't like it because growing up, I had parents that were super critical of pretty much everything I did.
所以我讨厌这样,但我知道它确实存在我身上。
So I don't like it, but I know it's in me.
我努力想改,但真没那么容易。
And I try to fix it, but it's not easy.
不过我也得替自己说句公道话,我对别人的挑剔,跟对自己一样狠。
But in my defense, I am only as critical as I am of myself.
我老跟米莎和图库茨这么说。
That's what I tell Mithra and Tukutz all the time.
他们总爱抱怨。
They always complain.
我团队里的人呢,只有在别人面前才抱怨。
The thing about my team members, they complain only when others are around.
上周我们开了个EPIKEA演出的会,就是那种像演唱会前的筹备会。
Last week we had an EPIKEA show meeting, right, like a concert meeting.
所有人都在场。
And everyone was there.
结果在会上,他们突然开始挑我的毛病。
And during that meeting, they started criticizing me.
大概是憋了好几个月的牢骚,一下子全爆发了。
Think like pent up complaints that they had for about a few months, I guess.
当着大伙儿的面,直接就开始数落我。
They started complaining right there in front of everybody.
说我准备演出时太敏感、太苛刻。
And it was about how I'm extremely sensitive and critical when we're preparing for a show.
我说这不挺正常的吗?毕竟所有歌单和那些复杂的事儿都得我来操心。
And I'm like, Obviously, because I have to do all the set lists and all these complicated things.
我当然希望演出对观众来说完美无缺啊。
Of course, I want it to be perfect for the audience.
我就想问,他们干嘛非得在这儿说这个?
And I'm like, Why are they saying it here?
对吧?
Right?
我就跟他们说:行,我是苛刻,但我对自己不更苛刻吗?
And I said to them, Well, okay, I am critical, but am I not as critical of myself?
我有没有要求你们做到我连自己都做不到的标准?
Do I ever make you guys live up to a standard that I don't have for myself?
他们说:没有。
And they're like, No.
所以我要为自己辩解一下。
So in my defense.
我真讨厌自己。
I hate myself.
这简直让我更讨厌自己了。
This is making me hate myself.
我对自己太苛刻了,简直疯了。
I am so critical of myself, it's crazy.
每天我都在心里把自己骂得狗血淋头。
I like figuratively beat the shit out of me every day.
不。
No.
自从有那么一段时间,没人再真动手打我之后。
As soon as someone stopped actually beating the shit out of me at a certain age in my life.
爸妈、老师、哥哥们一不打我了,我脑子里就开始没完没了地折磨自己。
Like as soon as parents, teachers, big brothers, like stopped beating the shit out of me physically, I think I mentally started beating the crap out of myself.
我想通过这个播客来改变这一点。
And that's something I want to fix through this podcast.
我帮别人的时候从不图回报。
I take active steps to help others without expecting anything in return.
这事儿又得两说。
Split decision here again.
我得说,我完全同意。
I want to say, strongly agree.
明白吧?
Okay?
天哪。
God.
我这会儿该干嘛?
What do I do here?
我确实经常做事情不求回报,可真的一点回报都没有时,我就心里犯嘀咕——比如十一月我给图库茨买了个生日礼物,压根没指望他回礼。
I do often do things without expecting anything in return, but when nothing is actually returned, I'm like, I'll buy Tukutz, a birthday gift in November, expecting nothing in return.
他倒好,问我:‘你干嘛给我买这副ChromHearts眼镜啊?’
And he's like, why'd you get me these ChromHearts glasses?
我就说:‘哎呀,没事儿,就是随便买买。’
And I'm like, no, it's, you know, it's nothing.
结果到了七月,八个月过去了,他连个影儿都没有。
And then come July, eight months later, he doesn't give me anything.
我就会说,行吧。
I'm gonna be like, okay.
保持中立,这才是实话。
Think neutral is the honest truth here.
在关系里,我特别在意让对方感受到被关心。
Making sure others feel cared for is a priority in my relationships.
特别重要。
A priority.
这得看是什么关系。
It depends on the relationship.
如果是Haru,那当然同意。
If it's Haru, yeah, strongly agree.
如果是Tukutz,我完全不同意。
If it's Tukutz, strongly disagree.
哦,这真难选。
Oh, this is hard.
不,我觉得你天生就特别在意房间里每一个人。
No, I think you have a natural tendency to care for everyone in the room.
不是。
No.
不过确实如此。
It's true though.
你没必要非得这样。
You don't have to do that.
天哪。
Oh god.
非常同意。
Strongly agree.
我现在正把所有绿色的都吃掉。
I'm just eating all the green ones right now.
所有的绿色软糖。
All the green gummy bears.
谢谢。
Thank you.
真是个坚强的小家伙。
Strong baby.
这可能是别人对我说过最暖心的话了。
It's the nicest thing someone's ever said about me.
你这一句,让我这舞跳得值了。
You just made my dance.
我很容易就能建立并维持亲密的人际关系。
I find it easy to build and maintain close personal relationships.
我得明确反对这一点。
I'm going to strongly disagree here.
我能讲个超短的故事吗?
Am I allowed to tell a very short story?
给正在看、希望我赶紧过完这个测试的朋友们,我真的挺抱歉的。
For the people that are watching, wanting me to get through this test, I'm really sorry.
这得花点时间。
It's going to take a while.
让我讲个简短的故事吧。
Let me just tell a short story.
从小学开始,就有人说我表面看起来有点冷淡。
I've been told since like elementary school that I'm a bit cold, on the surface at least.
所以我才选了‘强烈不同意’。
So that's why I chose strongly disagree.
其实吧,我很不容易跟人建立亲密的关系。
I actually find it very hard to build a close personal relationship.
我觉得是因为小学时我搬来搬去太多次,从韩国搬到加拿大。
I think it's because I moved around so much during elementary school, like from Korea to Canada.
到了加拿大后,每年都要搬家,换学校,重新交朋友。
And then in Canada, every year we moved and I had to go to a different school and make new friends.
刚交上新朋友,一年内就得说再见,对吧?
As soon as I made a new friend, I had to say goodbye like within the year, right?
然后继续往前走,结交新朋友。
And then move on and make new friends.
后来我就想,算了,别搞太亲密的关系吧,反正每次都要经历一次心碎。
And at some point I think I just decided like maybe don't have strong, close personal relationships because I'm gonna have to go through heartbreak every single time.
这种心态慢慢就成了我性格的一部分,所以别人总觉得我有点冷淡。
I think that sort of became a part of my personality And sometimes people find me kind of cold.
其实我很愿意表达关心和爱意。
I am comfortable expressing affection and care towards others.
我觉得自己特别自在。
I think I'm actually very comfortable.
非常同意。
Strongly agree.
有意思的是,我虽然很自在,但正因为这样,反而常让别人不自在。
What's interesting is that I am comfortable, and because of my comfort level, I often make others uncomfortable.
我刚认识米特拉和图库茨的时候,他们都被我吓到了——我有时候会突然抱他们一下,他们就一脸懵:‘卧槽?’
When I first met Mithra and Tukutz, they were kind of shocked that I was I would sometimes, like, hug them or something, and they'd be like, what the fuck?
对吧?
Right?
他们觉得怪,但我自己挺自在的。
They they find it weird, but I'm very comfortable.
嗯,明白了。
Okay.
帮别人让我觉得自己被需要,也特别有成就感。
Helping others makes me feel valued and fulfilled.
我刚刚是不是不小心吃了个红的和个橙的?
Did I just accidentally eat a red one and an orange one?
因为那两个选项是‘强烈不同意’和‘不同意’。
Because that's strongly disagree and disagree.
行吧。
Okay.
这可不是我故意的。
That was not planned.
让人笑也算是在帮他们吗?
Is making someone laugh helping them?
什么意思?
Qualify?
这算吗?
Does Does it qualify?
因为我就是喜欢逗人笑。
Because I like making people laugh.
什么叫帮别人?
What is helping others?
这话到底啥意思?
What does that mean?
帮别人到底有个啥标准?
What's the threshold here of helping others?
比如你帮个老太太提东西。
If you helped an old lady carry stuff.
我确实在它乐园做了 exactly 这样的事。
I actually did exactly that in Itaewon.
你当时觉得有成就感吗?
Did you feel fulfilled?
有啊。
Yes.
我怎么就花了两秒钟才反应过来?
Why did it take me two seconds?
我也不知道为啥答得这么慢,其实我根本没多想。
I don't know why it took me a couple seconds to answer, but I didn't actually even think about it.
我就是觉得这事儿得帮。
I just thought that it had to be done.
我刚从车里出来,看见她推着购物车,走不动了,就赶紧过去帮她。
I got out of a car and I went and helped because she, like, she had the wagon and she and she kind of, like, couldn't go on.
所以我帮她把东西都重新搬回车上去了。
So I had to help her and put all the things back on.
但我从来没想过这件事让我有没有成就感,因为根本不是关于我的感受,对吧?
But I don't think I've ever even thought about does it make me feel fulfilled because it's not about how I feel, right?
就是该做,做了就完了。
It's just had to be done.
这话听着像在说真话吧?
Does that sound It's the truth.
我跟上帝发誓,真的。
I swear to God, okay?
直到现在这一刻,我压根儿没想过这些,真的。
I did not even think about it until this moment, okay?
这该死的测试。
This fucking test.
帮别人让我觉得自己被需要、有成就感。
Helping others makes me feel valued and fulfilled.
我觉得我挺中立的,因为我自己开不开心其实没那么重要。
I think I'm neutral because it doesn't really matter to me about how I feel about it.
别人认可我的付出,对我来说挺重要的。
Being appreciated for my contributions is important to me.
好吧。
Okay.
我想说‘强烈不同意’,显得我谦虚点,但我太清楚我老婆会怎么说了——她肯定选‘强烈同意’。
I want to say strongly disagree because that'll make me seem humble, but I know what my wife will say Strongly agree.
她老说:‘喂,赶紧回家吧。’
She's like, yo, come home.
你一推开门,立马就开始讲个不停。
And you're just like immediately, you walk through the door and you're like you just start telling a story.
然后呢,就开始抱怨。
And then, like, you're, like, complaining.
可说到底,你其实就是想让我夸你一句‘你太棒了’。
And then at the end of it all, it just seems like you want me to tell you that you're awesome.
你到底在说啥、讲啥事儿、遇到啥情况,其实都没那么重要。
It really doesn't matter what you're even saying or what you're describing or what situation it was.
到最后,我就只是得说一句‘你太棒了’,好像就该这么着似的。
It just seems like at the end of it, I'm just supposed to say something like, you're awesome.
我这个人啊,就是冲着野心和成功去的。
I am driven by my ambition and the desire to be successful.
嗯,明白了。
Okay.
你们肯定觉得我这么说是为了装谦虚、装酷,但真不是,我特别不同意。
You guys are gonna think that I'm just saying this be because I wanna seem, like, humble and cool, but I I strongly disagree.
我真的一点野心都没有。
I seriously have zero ambition.
野心这东西,压根儿就推不动我。
Like ambition is not something that drives me at all.
你要是去问图库茨,他也会跟你们这么说。
Even Tukutz will say this to you guys if you ask him.
所以你看,这事儿是真的。
So you know it's the truth.
我根本不会感到嫉妒或眼红。
I am incapable of feeling jealousy or envy.
这招对我完全没用。
It just simply does not work on me.
有些人想从我这儿捞好处,就想方设法激我嫉妒、眼红,可我就是无动于衷。
Some people who want to get something out of me will try to know, strong-arm me by trying to induce like some kind of like jealousy or envy and it just won't work.
他们会说:你看看我有什么!
They'll be like, Look at what I have!
我就回:哦,行吧。
And I'll be like, Oh okay.
我这么有钱,你却没有!
I'm this rich and you're not!
我就想:嗯,客观上是这么回事。
And I'm like, Okay, objectively yes.
但真的一点影响不了我。
And it just won't work on me.
我觉得这是因为野心和想要成功的念头,根本就没进过我的脑子。
And I think it's because that ambition and the desire to be successful just never comes into my calculations.
这事儿跟那个没关系。
It's not about that.
我做事就图个把事儿干漂亮了。
It's like what I do, I wanna do it well.
就这事儿。
That's it.
我跟你说真的。
I swear to God.
行了,我发誓。
Okay, I swear.
你信我吧。
Believe me.
我适应力强,啥活儿都能干好。
I am adaptable and excel in a variety of tasks and roles.
我不同意。
Disagree.
我说不同意,是因为有些事和角色我根本干不了。
I say disagree because there are certain tasks and roles I can never do.
我完全做不了中层管理。
I cannot do middle management.
预算这种事,我一辈子都搞不定。
I can never do budgeting.
只要一看到‘Excel’这个词,我就立马想到钱。
And as soon as I even saw the word Excel, Excel, as soon as I even saw the word, I thought of money.
我当时就想:这不是那个做账的软件吗?
Was like, Oh, isn't that that accounting app?
表格这些东西。
Spreadsheets.
我真的搞不来。
I can't do that.
一旦完成当前的目标,我就会立刻设定并追求新的目标。
I actively create and pursue new goals once current ones are achieved.
非常同意。
Strongly agree.
我觉得要是没了想追求的东西,我简直活不下去。
I think I would die the moment I have nothing to reach for.
正因如此,我身边的同事有时候都快被我逼疯了。
And because of that, the people I work with sometimes want to die.
每到年底,米特拉和图库茨都一脸懵:什么?
At the end of every year, Mithra and Tukutz are like, What?
我们不休息一下?
We're not gonna take a break?
直接冲进2026年?
We're going straight into 2026?
我就说:对啊。
I'm like, Yeah.
我就说,咱们聊聊下一场演出吧。
I'm like, Let's talk about the next concert.
他们说:兄弟,离那会儿还有一年呢。
They're like, Bro, it's twelve months away.
我们刚结束一场演出啊。
We just finished the concert.
你到底在说啥?
What the fuck are you talking about?
我就说,对啊,但这次其实还有好多地方能做得更好,比如那段和那段。
And I'm like, Yeah, but it can be better because this time, you know, there was this part and this part we could do better.
所以趁还没忘,咱们赶紧开个会吧。
So like, let's just, before we forget, let's have a meeting.
他们就差说:我真受不了这人了。
And they're just like, I hate this guy.
我得在工作和艺术创作里表达出自己的个性。
I need to express my individuality in my work or artistic endeavors.
那是什么意思?
What does that mean?
意思是特立独行吗?
Does it mean like being unique?
还是
Or
啊,那我是不是得把我的艺术创作塞进表格里?
Oh, do I put my artistic expressions into my spreadsheet?
我不确定你能不能改改我的字体啊,
I don't know if you could change my fonts and
那也太烦人了吧。
Oh, that would be that would be very annoying.
你干嘛非得搞个动画啊?
It's like, why did you Enimate.
我会计发来的文件,我一打开,结果是个MP4。
Like, my my accountant sends me sends me a file, and I'm like, what what and I turn it on, and it's like it's a m P four.
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我就说,等等。
And I'm like, wait.
这啥啊?
What what is this?
然后突然就放起音乐来了。
And then music comes out.
这就像是,
It's like,
他干脆把我整个预算表都做成了动画。
And ta then he, like, fully animated my budget.
你看,今年你花了这么多钱。
Like, this is how much you spent this year.
我也没办法。
I neutral.
我是搞艺术的,这我也没辙。
I'm an artist, so there's nothing I can do about it.
我特别被美感吸引,身边总围着能激发我的东西。
I am drawn to aesthetics and surround myself with beauty that inspires me.
说来你可能不信,我其实不太同意。
You know, surprisingly, disagree.
这个工作室的布置,估计比我的卧室还讲究。
This setup here, this studio, is probably more aesthetic than my actual room.
我卧室?真不是夸张,是我们家最空荡的地方。
My room, seriously, is the most barren space in our house.
我就睡个床垫,啥都没有。
I sleep just on a mattress.
就一间房,一张床垫。
So it's just room, mattress.
唯一有点美感的,就剩一张木头书桌了。
And then there's like one wooden desk that is aesthetic.
那张桌子其实挺漂亮,但它是以前我办公室的旧物。
It's a beautiful desk, but it was because it belonged in an office I had way back.
对吧?
Right?
桌上就放着便利贴、电脑和维生素。
And then on the table is just like Post its and like a computer and vitamins.
一点美感都没有。
It's not aesthetic at all.
但我所有创作几乎都是在这间屋子里完成的。
But I create almost everything I create in that room.
我真的不需要什么仙人掌。
So I don't really need like like a cactus.
也不需要什么问号形状的蜡烛。
I don't need like a bowl of question mark shaped candles.
也不需要什么精致的摆设。
I don't need like good decoration.
这些对我来说根本无所谓。
It really doesn't matter to me.
我的风格完全体现了我独特的个性。
My personal style is a true reflection of my unique identity.
你想想,有人会这么说。
Imagine somebody saying this.
天哪。
Oh my god.
我的风格完全体现了我独特的个性。
My personal style is a true reflection of my unique identity.
我倒要看看,谁要是把这句话直接贴到X上,会引发什么反应。
I dare anyone to just copy paste this into like like just post this on X and see where they take it.
我不同意。
Disagree.
说实话,我根本没什么个人风格。
I mean, I don't have, like, a personal style.
我平时就穿件T恤,戴个帽子。
I usually just wear, like, a t shirt and a hat.
说实话,我根本没什么独特的个性。
You know, I I don't have, like, a unique identity.
你随便一找,都能找到一百个穿得跟我一模一样的人。
You can probably find, like, a 100 other people that are dressed just like me.
我完全不同意。
So, strongly disagree.
我超讨厌这句话。
I hate this sentence.
这话说得真烂。
It's a shitty sentence.
我会主动找人提意见,好让我的创作变得更好。
I actively seek feedback to refine and enhance my creative projects.
我特别同意。
Strongly agree.
但关键是,你去哪儿找反馈特别重要。
But, however, where you seek feedback is very important.
寻求艺术反馈这个问题啊,其实挺麻烦的。
The problem with seeking artistic feedback okay.
这条建议是给音乐人、艺术家,还有所有搞创作的人的——不管你创什么。
This is advice for musicians and artists and creatives of any kind, anyone that creates anything.
别去找那些你根本不想听他们意见的人,然后还被他们伤了心。
Don't try to get feedback from people like that you don't want feedback from and then get hurt by it.
去找那些你真正佩服的人,或者你知道会给你真正有用反馈的人。
Go to someone that you actually admire or that you know will give you the feedback you actually need to improve.
别上X平台。
Don't go on X.
也别去你评论区里找反馈,因为那儿大多数人根本不在乎你。
Don't go on like your comment section and try to find feedback there because that's not like most of those people don't care about you first of all.
你还得翻一堆‘你太烂了!’这样的评论。
And you'll have to also rummage through like a bunch of You suck!
才能找到一点点像样的建设性意见。
Before you get to anything that resembles constructive criticism.
所以去找你信得过的人。
So go to people you trust.
去找那些因为爱你才会跟你说实话的人。
Go to people who will give you the brutal truth because they love you.
你知道最让我抓狂的是啥吗?
You know one of the things that drives me insane?
我知道我该装没看见,不该放在心上。
I know I should just ignore it and I shouldn't care.
这事儿小得不能再小了,可就是让我特别烦。
And it's such a small thing and it just annoys me so much.
我都不敢说,怕一说出来,更多人就跟着这么干了。
And I'm scared to even say it because someone's gonna do it more.
我刚一说,他们立马就跟着上。
They're gonna do it more as soon as I say it.
咱们不是要发一个EPIKASE视频吗?
We'll upload an EPIKASE video, right?
我们刚发完才三秒而已。
Literally, it's been three seconds since we posted.
视频才上线三秒钟,就有人开始说了。
Three fucking seconds the video has been up.
有人立马就说:这玩意儿一般般。
And someone's like, it's not that good.
你连点都没点进去,才三秒啊。
You haven't you like, three seconds, you haven't even clicked yet.
总会有那么一两个人,老爱这样。
Once in a while, there's always someone that does that.
还有啊,每次我们发新歌或者新专辑,你懂的,像Melon这种平台,不是能留言吗?
And also when we, like, drop a new song or an album, you know how you can, like, you know, on, like, Melon and stuff, you can, like, leave a comment?
真有人两分钟内就写完一篇完整的专辑评测。
Some guy will seriously post an entire album review within like two minutes.
我觉得这专辑没上一张好。
Oh, I don't think the album's as good as the last one.
你咋可能两分钟就知道了?
How how did you know in two minutes?
你到底怎么知道的?
What how did you know?
你两分钟就把一小时的专辑听完了?
How did you hear an hour long album in two minutes?
你三秒钟就把五十分钟的视频看完了?
How did you see a fifty minute video in three seconds?
几个月前,就有人在我们《EPIKASE》的视频底下干过这事儿。
Anyways, someone did that a few months ago on our on our EPIKASE video.
真的,才三秒啊。
Seriously, three seconds.
结果还有人在那条评论底下回了一句。
And someone commented on the comment.
他们说:才三秒呢。
They're like, It's been three seconds.
你到底在说什么啊?
What the fuck you talking about?
那个评论真让我松了口气。
And that comment made me feel so much better.
天哪。
Jeez.
我平时收集分析数据来做决策,天啊。
I collect and analyze data to make informed Oh my god.
天啊。
Oh my god.
我一听到‘分析’和‘数据’这两个词就过敏。
Have allergies to the words analyze and data.
要是把它们俩凑一块儿,比如‘分析数据’,后面你说啥我都没法听了。
And if they're put together like this, analyze data, like whatever you say after that, I'm not hearing.
实在不好意思。
I'm so sorry.
但要是有人一开口就说,‘Tablo,我分析了那些数据’,然后才告诉我最重要的事,那我根本听不进去。
But if somebody starts the conversation like, So Tablo, I was analyzing the data, and then after that they can tell me the most important thing.
就算他们紧接着告诉我人生的意义,我也听不到,因为一听到‘分析’和‘数据’这两个词,我就自动屏蔽了。
They can tell me the meaning of life right after that and I will not catch it because they chose to use analyzed and data.
我完全不同意。
Strongly disagree.
下一个。
Next.
我喜欢通过细致的分析来解决复杂的问题。
I enjoy solving complex problems with thorough analysis.
我不知道后面还会说什么词。
I don't know what words come after that.
分析?
Analysis.
我完全不同意。
Strongly disagree.
我一般会等把问题彻底搞清楚了,才愿意分享我的看法。
I am cautious about sharing my insights until I have fully examined an issue.
我觉得我特别同意。
I think I strongly agree.
现在有了社交媒体,大家都习惯一有想法就马上发出来,你知道的。
Nowadays with social media, people are so used to posting their first initial thought about something, you know.
别急,给点时间嘛。
Mean, give it a little bit of time.
给点时间嘛。
Give it a little bit of time.
你怎么可能在三秒内就知道这个视频无聊呢?
There's no way you know that this video is boring in three seconds.
我老爱去找那些背后的原则或者模式,弄明白事情到底是怎么运作的。
I often look for underlying principles or patterns to understand how things work.
所以这就像宜家自己造了个宜家的柜子,对吧?
So this would be like an IKEA building an IKEA thing like cabinet kind of situation, right?
好吧。
Okay.
因为我从来不认真看说明书。
Because I do not look at the manual well.
我老是把东西拧错方向。
I always screw in something the wrong way.
我老婆就说:你没看说明书吗?
And my wife is like, you not look at the manual?
看来我真的不擅长找背后的规律或原理。
So I clearly don't look for the underlying principles or patterns.
我不这么认为。
Disagree.
我特别留意潜在风险,总是提前做好预案。
I am vigilant about potential risks and always plan for contingencies.
完全同意。
Strongly agree.
搞得我团队的人都快烦死了。
To the point where my members are super annoyed.
我嘛,总是抱着最好的希望,但做最坏的打算。
I will hope for the best and plan like, prepare for the worst.
我天天都是这么干的。
That's that's what I do all the time.
他们就说:真搞不懂你到底是乐观还是悲观。
And they're like, I don't know if you're optimistic or pessimistic.
你太让人困惑了,一方面想着要拿惊人的成果,
It's you're so confusing because you're like aspiring for for these huge results.
另一方面又老在说:要是出事了怎么办?
And at the same time, you you're saying that what if this happens?
咱们得提前这么准备。
We need to prepare in this way.
你倒是给个准话啊,Tablo,别这么纠结了!
Like, what the make up your fucking mind, Tablo.
我特别看重环境和人际关系里的安全感和稳定感。
I seek security and stability in my environment and relationships.
这很中立。
This neutral.
就是中立。
Neutral.
我这个人很忠诚,尤其对那些我信得过的人。
I am loyal and committed, especially to those I trust.
非常同意。
Strongly agree.
EPIK HIGH刚火起来的时候,立马就有传言说我要单飞。
When EPIK HIGH first blew up, immediately there were rumors that I was going solo.
对吧?
Right?
后来这事越传越玄乎,好像真有人知道内情似的。
And it became like this thing where people were talking about it as if they actually knew something.
好像我真的打算单飞,解散组合,换个公司签合同似的。
Like I was actually preparing to like break from the group and like get rid of the group and like sign with a different company.
当时到处都在传这些有鼻子有眼的谣言。
There were like concrete rumors going around.
对吧?
Right?
除了那次Tajin Yo的特殊情况,我从来没出过个人单曲。
And I have never done a solo except for during that Tajin Yo situation.
那之后,我再没发过个人专辑。
And after that, I have never dropped a solo album.
我现在的制作人,从我第一张专辑之前就一直跟我合作了。
My engineer that I work with, I've worked with since before my first album.
都二十四年了。
It's been twenty four years.
我的造型和化妆团队,也跟了我十多年了。
My hair makeup team has been my hair makeup team for over a decade.
所以我只要跟谁合作,就一直跟他们合作下去。
So anyone I work with, I just keep working with them.
要是有人说我不够忠诚、不 sticking with 他们,我根本懒得回,我心想:你看看周围,兄弟。
If anyone ever says, I'm not loyal or I'm not sticking with them, I just don't even answer because I'm like, I mean, look around bro.
我都跟我的团队一起干了二十三年了。
I'm like, I have been with my team for twenty three years.
我跟所有这些合作伙伴,都认识几十年了。
I have been with all these people I work with for decades.
要是你跟我合作还不到一年,不如先想想自己哪儿出了问题,再来说别人。
If I'm not with you for over a year, maybe think about why before you start pointing fingers.
我们现在才走到第14步,总共20步呢。
We're on step 14 of 20.
这考试也太难了吧。
This test is so hard.
比SAT还难多了。
It's like worse than the SATs.
我希望这结果准一点,除非它让我特别失望。
I want this to be accurate unless it disappoints me.
除非测出来说我是个特别无聊的人,那我才不信。
Unless I get a result and it's just like, You're the boring type.
要是那样,我就重做一遍。
Then I'll take it again.
我直接瞎填,全骗它。
I'll just I'll completely lie.
你知道吗,有些测试最后总会给你一堆特别无聊的选项,比如性格测试。
You know, certain tests at the end, like certain personality tests, there are certain things that they give you that are terribly boring.
它老说你是那种调和型的人。
It's like you are the moderator.
我心里就想:我可不想当那个和事佬。
You're like, I don't want to be the fucking moderator.
我在团队里天生就是带头的那一个。
I naturally take on leadership roles in group settings.
中立。
Neutral.
真的吗?
Really?
不是吧?
No?
你天生就是个领导者吗?
Are you naturally a leader?
不是。
No.
哦。
Oh.
就是这儿的‘天生’这个词。
It's this word here, naturally.
我在团体里会承担领导角色,但那是因为不得不这么做,其实我内心并不想。
I take on leadership roles in group settings because I have to, but naturally I prefer not to.
别人以为我是EPIK HIGH的队长,就觉得我天生就是个领导型的人。
People think because I'm the leader of EPIK HIGH, like I'm a leader type.
才不是呢。
No.
这个角色是自然而然落到你头上的吗?
Does it naturally fall upon you, that role?
是啊,另外两个人根本就懒得管,整天玩手机,心不在焉的。
Yes, because the other two naturally fall out of They naturally just are on their phone and not paying attention.
他们连酒店房间都不愿意出,你懂吧?
They naturally won't come out of their hotel room, you know?
所以我得喊一嗓子:咱们几点出发,去哪儿。
So I have to be like, We're going here at this time.
都集合一下!
Everybody gather.
对吧?
Right?
因为没得选啊。
Because there's no choice.
我倒希望他们能自己拿个主意。
I would prefer that they make some decisions.
我也想偶尔当个后排乘客。
I want to be sitting in the back seat sometimes.
这根本不是自然而然的。
So it's not natural.
就是太不自然了。
It's just it's unnatural.
我这人啊,根本不是什么天生的领导。
I'm an unnatural leader.
那你跟老婆在一起的时候呢?
What about when you're with your wife?
你
Do you
哦,天啊,你这话说得可真到位。
Oh, wow, you took it there.
和我老婆在一起的时候,我完全没话语权。
When I'm with my wife, I have no agency.
我根本不想去作任何决定,也不想多插手。
I try the least to make any decisions or contribute.
连开车我都不能开。
I mean, I can't even drive.
那我还当什么领导啊?
So what's the point of taking a leadership role?
我能干嘛呢?
What am gonna do?
我能干嘛呢?
What am I gonna do?
上车就行了。
Get in the car.
走吧。
Let's go.
然后我就坐副驾驶?
And then I go to the passenger seat?
我在这事儿上根本没打算在家庭里当领导。
I'm not in this situation here to take a leadership role in my family.
就这样,完事儿了!
I just That's it!
我们出发了!
We're leaving!
我就说:快点啊,惠宗,快点。
I'm like, Come on, Hyejong, come on.
踩油门啊。
Step on it.
走起!
Let's go!
我特别欣赏有力量的人,也容易被那些果断干脆的人吸引。
I respect strength in others and I'm drawn to people who are also assertive.
我百分百同意,我觉得是这样。
1000% strongly agree, I think.
我爱上我老婆,就是因为她特别有主见,特别坚强。
Because I fell in love with my wife because she was assertive and like she was very strong.
我习惯靠自己,更愿意相信自己的能力。
I am self reliant and prefer to depend on my own abilities.
是啊,当爸爸的话,这点挺难的。
Yes, which is difficult as a dad.
一个人的时候,我完全能靠自己。
When I'm alone, I am very self reliant.
但只要和我老婆或者哈鲁在一起,他们就会说:‘爸爸,你得这么干才行。’
But when I'm with my wife or Haru, we'll be like, Dad, dad, you gotta do it like this.
对吧?
Right?
就是一些琐碎的事,他们也会说:‘你得这么干。’
Some mundane task and they'll be like, You have to do it this way.
我老婆就会说:‘喂,下楼梯时抓紧扶手。’
My wife will say something like, Yo, hold on to the railing when we walk down the stairs.
我就会回她:‘我走了那么多楼梯,不还活得好好的吗?’
And I'll be like, You know, I have walked down many stairs, and I'm still here.
在认识你之前,我前二十多年都这么上下楼梯,不也挺过来了吗?
And I didn't have you for the first, like, twenty something years, and I still made it down the stairs, and up the stairs, and down the stairs.
我根本不需要人告诉我怎么下楼梯,可我会去管别人吗?
I don't need to be told how to walk down the stairs, but do I say it?
不会,绝对不会。
No, no.
所以答案就是强烈同意。
So the answer was strongly agree.
我会努力让每个人在讨论中都感到被听见、被包容。
I work to ensure that everyone feels heard and included in discussions.
确实同意。
Actually agree.
我常常意识到自己不该这样,总想让每个人都发言,可有时候他们根本不想说。
And I often realize I shouldn't do that because I try to get everyone's thoughts and they sometimes don't want to give them.
要是有人不明白我在说什么,我来解释一下。
To anyone that's, like, wondering what I'm talking about, let me just explain.
每周四我们都会发布《EPIKASE》。
Every Thursday we post EPIKASE.
我们有个群聊,每次都要一起讨论封面和标题。
And we have a group chat where we have to go over the thumbnail and title.
人嘛,都是这样。
And people are like people.
我说的‘人’,就是指我跟我们的制片人。
By people, I mean like me and our producer here.
我们会互相聊聊,到底哪个标题最合适。
We, you know, exchange ideas about what would be the best title.
我能看出来,Mithra 和 Tukutz 根本不想参与。
And I can tell Mithra and Tukutz don't wanna participate.
因为我和 Rosemary 之间已经来回发了四十多条消息了。
Because there's like 40 messages going back and forth between me and Rosemary.
我想他们后来大概觉得,总不能一直干坐着吧。
And then I think at some point they're like, okay, I can't just sit here.
所以估计他们是希望我也主动出点主意。
So I guess I guess they want me to contribute too.
Enneagram 随便扔个标题,我一眼就看得出他们根本没用心。
Enneagram throw out a title and I can totally tell they didn't try.
比如咱们去吃了顺豆腐那期,我们本来会来回琢磨一堆能引爆点击的标题,结果他们就来一句。
If it's like an episode where we went to eat like Seundubu, for example, we'll be like exchanging these titles that that will get engagement, and then they'll say something like.
真的吗?
Seriously.
对我来说,平和地解决问题,比赢一场争论重要多了。
Peaceful resolutions are more important to me than winning an argument.
我其实从来不跟人争。
I don't really argue.
是吗?
Do I?
是吗?
Do I?
我有吗?
I do?
但我有哪次是冲着赢去的吗?
But have I ever tried to win the argument?
你每次都赢。
You always win.
这又不是我的错。
I mean, that's not my fault.
你这话什么意思?
What are you saying?
我赢了又不是我的错。
That's not my fault that I won.
真的吗?
Really?
我要翻翻我们之前的聊天记录。
I'm going to go through our texts.
有时候我其实认输,心里想:你说得对。
There are times where I yield to your argument and I'm like, Actually, you're right.
我搜一下‘你说得对’,看看我到底说过多少次。
I'm going to search 'you're right' and see how many times I've said 'you're right'.
等等,你说得对。
Hold on, you're right.
你瞧,我刚搜了搜,我多少次说‘你说得对’。
Look at how many I just searched the times I said 'you're right'.
我1月29号还说过‘你说得对’。
I said 'you're right' January 29.
我说过你对。
I said you're right.
明白吧?
Okay?
1月27号我还说,你对,关于这个播客。
January 27, I said and you're right about the podcast.
懂吗?
Okay?
我说你对。
I said you're right.
等一下。
Hold on.
老爸现在就得知道。
Daddy needs to know right now.
好。
Okay.
不行。
No.
不行。
No.
等等。
Wait.
好。
Okay.
什么?
What?
好。
Okay.
2025年5月29号,我跟你说过,你对。
05/29/2025, I said to you, you're right.
抱歉,我刚才想换个角度。
Sorry, I tried to go with the other angle.
明白吗?
Okay?
那是八个月前的事了。
That's eight months ago.
什么?
What?
过去一年里都发生快三回了。
It's like three times over the last year.
好。
Okay.
2025年4月14号,你是在开玩笑吧?
04/14/2025, you're joking, right?
不,等等。
No, wait.
等等。
Wait.
你这话说得也太离谱了吧,这根本不是你的权利。
This thing You're joking right is not your right.
我之前也跟别人说过,你确实有道理。
There's other people I've said you're right to.
天哪
Damn
这个性格测试简直让我讨厌自己。
personality test is making me hate myself.
九型人格真是烂透了。
Enneagrams suck.
行吧,你让我点哪儿?
Okay, what do you want me to click?
你到底让我点哪儿啊,罗丝玛丽?
What do you want me to click, Rosemary?
对我来说,和平解决比在争论中赢更重要。
Peaceful resolutions are more important to me than winning an argument.
是强烈同意还是强烈反对?
Strongly agree or strongly disagree?
我反对。
Disagree.
你说得对。
You're right.
罗莎玛丽,你说得对。
Rosemary, you're right.
这次争论你赢了。
You won this argument.
你说得对。
You're right.
我在我那群上班的朋友里,经常当和事佬。
I am often the peacemaker in my group of friends who are at work.
我想也是。
I guess not.
我想也不是。
I guess not.
不同意。
Disagree.
非常不同意。
Strongly disagree.
我更喜欢先听懂所有人的观点,再表达自己的看法。
I prefer to listen and understand all viewpoints before expressing my own.
非常不同意。
Strongly disagree.
你开心吗?
Are you happy?
你说得对。
You're right.
你总是对的。
You're always right.
一想到可能会有冲突,我就特别难做决定。
I find it challenging to make decisions when there is a potential for conflict.
你肯定也不同意,对吧?
Strongly disagree, right?
你知道吗,最后这玩意儿只会写一句:你是个混蛋。
You know, at the end of this, it's just gonna say, you're a piece of shit.
我这人设,就是个混蛋。
My personality, you're a piece of shit.
行吧。
K.
就快到了。
We're almost there.
第18步,总共20步。
Step 18 of 20.
我喜欢安静平和的环境,但那些家伙偏偏总唱反调。
I value a calm and tranquil environment where comps strongly disagree.
好吧,现在我可真掏心窝子了,全靠我这帮队友撑着。
Okay, now I'm being super honest thanks to my team here.
为了团队和谐,我愿意放弃自己的偏好?别逗了,我根本不同意。
I am willing to compromise my own preferences for the sake of group harmony strongly disagree.
红的,红的,红的,红的。
Red, red, red, red.
我特别希望冲突能平和解决,别留什么怨气。
It's important for me that conflicts are resolved amicably and without resentment.
我是真想做到,但具体还得看是啥样的矛盾。
I mean, I try, but it depends on the conflict.
你猜啥事儿好笑?
You know what's funny?
别看他在EPIKASE上那副样子,其实他对这条可是强烈同意。
Despite his image on EPIKASE, Two Cuts is actually strongly agree on this one.
他老在群里刷屏:‘这孙子,我真想直接冲他家去跟他干一架。’
He will like be in the group chat like this motherfucker, I am so close to like fucking going over there to his house.
然后他会把实际发给对方的短信转给我,内容通常是:咱们下次再想办法解决吧。
And then he'll send me the text that he actually sent to him and it'll be like, let's try to work something out for next time.
非常感谢你问这个。
Thank you so much for asking.
顺致问候。
Kind regards.
顺致问候。
Kind regards.
爱你哟。
XOXO.
而且他经常得拦着我,因为每当中拉或图库茨遇到有人骚扰他们,我就会说:把他们的号码给我。
And quite often he'll have to stop me because sometimes like when Mithra or Tukutz is dealing with some issue with some person that is harassing them, I'll be like, Give me their number.
他们就会说:不行,就是不行。
And they're like, No, just No.
我却说:快给我。
And I'm like, Give it to me.
让我来帮你处理这事。
Like, let me handle this for you.
他们就说:不行。
And they're like, No.
我们最不可能做的就是把号码给你。
The last thing we're gonna do is give it to you.
我直接说:管他呢,把号码给我!这事儿我必须得解决,而且得彻底了断,别再扯皮。
I'm like, Fuck it, fuck, give me the number because it's so important for me that this conflict is resolved in the most nonamicable way possible.
我完全不同意。
Strongly disagree.
我觉得维系关系比争个对错重要多了。
I believe maintaining a relationship is more important than winning an argument.
行吧。
Okay.
咱们先让其他人出去一下。
Let just clear the room here.
明白吧?
Okay?
因为罗丝玛丽,你可能会觉得赢辩论对我很重要。
Because of Rosemary, you may get the idea that winning an argument is important for me.
其实不是。
It's not.
我发誓。
I swear.
真不是。
It's not.
你听见她说的了。
You heard her.
她说的是,刚好我每次辩论都赢而已。
She said, I just like It just so happens that I win the argument.
好。
Okay.
这对我来说根本不重要。
It's not important to me.
我跟在乎的人争赢了,也得不到啥好处。
Like there's nothing for me to gain by winning an argument against someone I care about.
这有啥意思呢?
Like what's the point?
我赢了又能怎样?
What do I win?
我能拿到啥奖品?
What prize do I win?
从今天起,我不再纠结谁输谁赢了。
So I don't try to win arguments anymore, starting today.
中立就行。
Neutral.
我能做到中立吗?
Can I do neutral?
这样可以吗?
Is it okay?
行吧。
Okay.
我总会主动找机会支持和鼓励别人。
I actively look for ways to support and encourage others.
你看看我刚发给Grace的那条消息。
Look at the last text I sent Grace.
新一期太棒了。
The new episode is excellence.
棒极了。
Excellence.
我发给她的就是那期《EPIKASE》。
The new EPIKASE episode is excellence.
我真的发给她了,我发誓。
I sent it to her, I swear.
确实啊,你老给我发一些莫名其妙的消息
It's true, you send me random messages of just
对,就这么干
Yeah, do that.
我还会给很多我不认识的音乐人发消息
I even text a lot of musicians that I don't know.
我一听完一张专辑,要是觉得特别棒,就会到处打听他们的联系方式,然后发条消息说:嘿,我刚听了你的专辑
I will hear an album and if it's really good, I'll ask around for the number and I'll text them or send them a message like, Oh, I heard the album.
你不用非得回我,这真的挺好的
You don't have to text back, it's really good.
太棒了
That's awesome.
我觉得这样能鼓励他们继续做出好音乐
Because I feel like it'll help them continue to make good music.
有些人可能心里嘀咕:这真是Tablo吗?
Some people are probably like kind of like, Is this really Tablo?
所以我总说,这真的是Tablo。
So I always say, This is really Tablo.
这话说的,跟骗子一模一样。
That's what a scammer would say.
我发誓,这真的是Tablo。
I swear to God, this is really Tablo.
嘿,你这首歌真棒。
Hey, your song is really good.
别人怎么看我是不是个乐于助人、善良的人,我挺在意的。
It's important to me that others see me as helpful and kind.
我本来想说‘我完全不同意’,可我在EPIKASE上的行为根本不是这么回事。
I wanna say strongly disagree, but my behavior on EPIKASE says otherwise.
对吧?
Right?
说实话,我根本不在乎。
Honestly, I don't care.
真实的你。
The real you.
是的。
Yeah.
真实的我?我完全不同意。
The real me, I strongly disagree.
说实话,别人怎么看我,我根本不在乎。
I honestly don't care how people see me.
因为你年纪越大就越明白,不管别人觉得你是好人还是坏人,他们都是基于自己看到的你生活中极小一部分来下判断的。
Because like one thing you realize as you get older, regardless of whether people see you as a good person or a terrible person, either way, they're going off of a very tiny piece of something they've seen of your life.
他们可能看到你在某个地方做了一件好事,就管你叫天使,可他们根本不了解你。
They'll see you like do one nice thing at a certain place and then they'll call you like an angel, right, when they don't know much about you.
或者你犯了一个错,他们就直接把你当魔鬼,却没看到你生活中那99%他们没看见的部分。
Or they'll see you like make one mistake and call you like the devil when they haven't seen the 99% that is going on outside of their view.
所以你就明白了,哪怕别人夸你、捧你,那也跟骂你一样,都是幻觉。
So you realize that even when you get compliments and accolades, it's just as a mirage as hate.
重要的是我怎么看自己。
What's important is how I see me.
我的情绪很容易被身边人的情绪影响。
My own mood is affected by the emotional states of those around me.
我觉得我同意。
I think I agree.
我刚才就是想表达这个。
That's what was trying to imagine.
如果图库茨心情不好、有点难过,我和米特拉还会不会在他面前继续开玩笑?
If Tukutz was upset and kind of sad, would Mithra and I stop joking around right in front of him?
不会。
No.
如果图库茨正在节食,不想吃东西,我和米特拉还会不会在他面前点鸡翅大吃特吃?
If Tukutz was on a diet and trying not to eat right now, would it stop Mithra and I from ordering chicken and eating it right in front of him?
不会。
No.
中立。
Neutral.
第20步,也是最后一步。
Step 20 of 20.
搞定啦。
We're there.
我真怕最后一页的时候,网络突然断了或者出啥问题。
I am so afraid that during the last page, the internet or something's going to go out.
你知不知道我以前遇到过这种事?
You know what's happened to me before?
我把手机扔了。
I threw my phone.
真的假的,我可不是开玩笑。
Seriously.
因为页面刷新错了,直接给我跳回了开头。
Because it refreshed wrong and went back to the beginning.
我当时就爆粗口了:‘我靠!’
Was like, I Fuck!
就在前面几个问题的时候,我还说:‘我脾气可真够爆的。’
Was And I swear, like a few questions earlier, it was like, I am easily angered.
我当时还回了‘强烈不同意’。
And I was like, Strongly disagree.
我总是能迅速回应朋友和家人的需求。
I am quick to respond to the needs of my friends and family.
强烈同意。
Strongly agree.
我马上就到,一秒的事儿。
I'll be there in like one second.
我老说,我团队里唯一能骂他们的,只有我自己。
I always say the only person I will allow to shit on my team is me.
我当着别人的面笑话Tukutz和Mithra,可他们一插嘴,我立马就炸了:‘你刚说啥呢?’
Like I will be making fun of Tukutz and Mithra right in front of someone, but the moment they join in, I'll be like, What the fuck did you just say?
我经常把别人的福祉放在自己前面。
I often put others' well-being ahead of my own.
是啊,我觉得是这样。
Yeah, I think so.
我的意思是,这些性格测试,你得明白,就算你做过一次,只要生活有重大变化,就得再做一遍。
I mean, these personality tests I realize, you have to even if you took it once, you've got to take it again when there's a significant and dramatic change in your life.
要是我十九岁或者二十五岁的时候做这个测试,我真不确定该怎么答‘我经常把别人的福祉放在自己前面’这句——说实话。但现在我当爹了,我所有的一切都是为了我女儿,希望老天保佑。
Because if I was answering this when I was like 19 or like 25, right, I'm not sure how I would answer something like I often put others' well-being ahead of my own, Like truthfully, But now that I'm a dad, my entire purpose is to put my daughter's well-being ahead of my own, knock on wood.
如果真有危险时刻,我必须冲进去救我女儿,我根本不会多想。
If ever there was a dangerous moment and I would have to throw myself into the danger to save my daughter, I wouldn't even think about it.
结婚前、有孩子前,你懂那种‘我愿意为你去死’的说法吗?
Before I got married, before I had a kid, you know how like I would die for you that phrase?
我爱一个人爱到可以为她去死。
I love someone so much I could die for them.
真到那会儿,想为别人去死,其实没那么容易。
When that situation comes, it's actually really hard to die for someone.
但一旦当了父母,我真的一点都不会犹豫,根本不会去想要不要冲上去。
But when you become a parent, I seriously would not even like, I don't think it would even enter my head should jump.
我肯定会立刻冲到公交车前面去挡。
Like, I would jump in front of a bus, like immediately.
我的意思是,希望永远用不上,但百分百我会把别人的安危放在自己前面。
I mean, hopefully I don't have to do that, but 100% I would put others' well-being ahead of my own.
这我完全同意。
So strongly agree.
我马上就要点完成了。
I'm about to hit finish.
我就怕最后结果是个无聊透顶的类型,比如‘你是个旅行者’。
I just pray that it's not some boring ass like you are a traveler.
或者啥中庸得要死的‘你是个中间人’。
Some banal freaking you're a middleman.
那可就太糟了。
That would be terrible.
你就是个中间人。
You're a middleman.
你还行吧。
You're alright.
我不明白这九型人格测试能得出啥。
I don't know what you get with this Enneagram test.
我也搞不懂能有啥收获。
I don't know what you can get.
好了,我点完成。
Okay, I'm gonna hit finish.
我来了。
Here I go.
完成。
Finish.
恭喜你。
Congratulations.
你已经完成性格测试了。
You've completed the personality test.
快看看我的结果。
Get my results.
来了来了。
Here we go.
来了来了。
Here we go.
我还得付钱?
I gotta pay?
在这儿呢。
Here it is.
他们开头怎么不直接告诉我啊?
Why didn't they just tell me that at the beginning?
老兄,我都怀疑咱们这视频能赚到这么多钱不。
Dude, I'm not even sure we're gonna make this much off this video.
操!
Fuck!
这测试真把我性格摸透了。
The test nailed my personality.
看来真得掏钱了。
So I guess I gotta pay.
等等,我找下信用卡。
Hold on, me get my credit card.
我该号召大伙儿一起上。
I should be like everybody join in.
我请客,兄弟们。
It's on me, guys.
感谢您的购买。
Thank you for your purchase.
哎呀,糟了。
Oh, shit.
我差点就错过了。
I almost missed it.
他们用超大加粗的字体写着‘感谢您的购买’。
They have Thank you for your purchase in huge bold font.
结果下面直接来了一句:‘你的性格是——哦!’
And then right under it they're like, Your personality is Oh!
我是第八型挑战者。
I'm a type eight challenger.
我真是个挑战者!
I am a challenger!
哇塞。
Wow.
我的天。
Oh my God.
这结果比我想的可好多了。
That's so much better than what it could have been.
天哪,我居然是挑战者型。
Oh my God, I'm a challenger.
你喜欢这个性格测试和你的结果吗?
Do you like the personality test and your result?
喜欢。
Yes.
你觉得这会影响我对体验的评分吗?
Do you think it'll affect my report, like how I rate my experience?
没错。
Right.
我该给五颗星吗?
Should I give it five stars?
行。
Okay.
五颗星。
Five stars.
我不想回答这些问题。
I don't wanna answer questions.
直接把报告给我就行。
Just give me the fucking report.
给你的评价起个标题吧。
Give your review a title.
太长了。
Was long.
体验日期啊,随便吧。
Date of experience, whatever.
行了行了,快点,快点,赶紧的。
Come on, let's go, let's go, let's go.
啥?我还得重新登录?
What, I have to sign in again?
它是不是收了钱就完事了?
Did it just take my money and not?
我确实付过钱了。
I definitely paid.
时间也太长了吧。
It was long.
还有,我的报告呢?
Also, where's my report?
把钱还给我。
Give me back my money.
你搞什么鬼?
What the fuck?
我是个挑战者,现在我正式向你发起挑战。
I'm a challenger, and now I'm challenging you.
把我的钱还回来!
Give me back my fucking money.
这到底是什么玩意儿?
What the hell is this?
跟我们多讲讲你的经历吧。
Tell us more about your experience.
嗯,是这样的。
Well
嘿,Tablo。
Hey, Tablo.
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