问我任何事：科勒的真实心声

好的，我们开始录制。今天我想尝试一种不同的播客形式，所以我做了一个‘问我任何事’环节。你对鲸鱼的恐惧是真的吗？天啊。

Okay. We're rolling. So today, I wanted to do a little bit of a different type of podcast reporting, so I did an ask me anything. Is your whale phobia real? God.

我脑海里不断浮现各种画面。说实话，现在谈论这个我的心跳都加快了。老天，我得冷静一下。我坚信的奇怪食物组合是什么？

I'm like having all these visuals in my head. Like, my heart is racing right now talking about it actually. Gosh. I have to calm down. What is a weird food combo that I swear by?

那是个非常奇怪的组合。我觉得它高度加工且不健康，但我却狼吞虎咽。吃完后感觉很糟糕，但每一分钟都值得。我相信外星生命存在吗？我是否经历过超自然现象？好吧。

It's such a strange combination. I think it's like highly processed and not good, and I devour it. You feel really gross afterwards, but it's worth every minute. Do I believe in life out in space, and have I ever had an encounter or paranormal activity? Okay.

各位，这足够做一整期节目了，因为我经历过太多这类事情。

You guys, that's a whole episode because I've had tons.

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Take your chance, discover Champs Ausplanted, the new fragrance, Chanel.

今天我想尝试一种不同的播客录制方式。通常我会邀请嘉宾，我们会深入探讨各种话题。通常都是嘉宾在主导对话。这次我想单独录制，所以做了‘问我任何事’环节。

So today, I wanted to do a little bit of a different type of podcast recording. Normally, I have a guest and we get really deep and we talk about really anything and everything. And it's normally the guest that is chitchatting a lot. And I wanted to do a solo taping. And so I did an ask me anything.

我手里有一堆问题，我会尽我所能回答。我想做些不一样的。我就是...想听听你们的想法。你们一直对我如此忠诚和支持。所以我决定，为什么不邀请你们一起进入我的播客世界呢？

And I have a bunch of questions here in my hand, and I'm going to answer them to the best I know how. I want to do something different. I just I'm I wanted to hear from you guys. You guys have been so loyal and great to me. So I figured, why don't I bring you guys into my podcast world with me?

好的，我们开始吧。当我告诉你们我要做一个‘随便问’环节时，问题就像潮水般涌来，但都是些很棒的问题。有些可能很荒谬，但大多数都很精彩。那么我现在就开始回答。

Okay. So let's get into it. When I let you guys know that I was going to be doing an ask me anything, we've been bombarded with questions, but amazing questions. Some are ridiculous and whatever, but most of them are amazing. And so I'm going to get started.

好的，你对鲸鱼的恐惧是真的吗？我不明白为什么会有人假装怕鲸鱼，但没错，我不仅怕鲸鱼——鲸鱼这种生物，我就是无法理解。它们的体型真的让我很不舒服。说实话，现在谈论这个话题时我的心跳都在加速，脑海里全是那些画面。

Okay. Is your whale phobia real? I don't know why someone would fake a whale phobia, but yes, it's not even just whales, but whales, I just don't understand. The size really makes me uncomfortable. Like my heart is racing right now talking about it actually, thinking about, God, I'm like having all these visuals in my head.

想象一下在海洋里，没有任何预警，连水波纹都没有。突然他妈的一头鲸鱼从水里冒出来。太可怕了。有些鲸鱼的心脏和小型校车一样大。不确定这是不是真的，但Snapple饮料瓶盖上是这么写的，这简直让我毛骨悚然。

Thinking about being in an ocean, there's no warning, there's no ripples. All of a sudden a fucking whale comes out of the water. That's horrifying. Some of the whales, their hearts are as big as a small school bus. Not sure if that's true, but Snapple told me it was, and it fucking freaks me out.

它们的喷水孔，它们的眼球——那眼球比我脑袋还大。我就是不想靠近它们。你玩你的，我玩我的，咱们互不干涉。我也不想伤害它们。

The blowhole, the eyeball, the eyeball that is bigger than the size of my head. I just don't don't want to be around them. You do you, I'll do me. We're good. Don't wanna hurt them.

只是不想待在水里。而且我也不喜欢大片水域，不喜欢黑暗的水域，不喜欢大多数海洋生物。它们太怪异了，你永远不知道水下藏着什么。

Just don't need to be in the water. But I also just don't like large bodies of water. I don't like dark water. Don't like a lot of sea animals. Like, they're just strange, and you don't know what's down there.

地球上80%的水域都未经勘探、没有记录。我们他妈的根本不了解。顺便说，别跟我说没有美人鱼。我们不知道啊！80%的区域既没有航海图，也没有任何记载。

80% of our waters are unchartered, undocumented. We don't fucking know. Don't tell me there's not mermaids, by the way. We don't know. 80% is not chartered, unmapped, undocumented.

飞机失事后连残骸都找不到，你却跟我说这片水域没有鲨鱼？每次度假时别人告诉你周围没鲨鱼，他们他妈怎么知道的？他们根本不知道！就是想骗我花钱参加水上活动，然后让我送命。休想。

You're telling me planes crash and we can't find debris from big planes, and you're gonna tell me, oh, there's no sharks in this water. Like, whenever you're on vacation and people tell you there's no sharks around you, how the fuck do you know? You don't know. You just want me to pay for whatever water activity this is, and then I'm going to die. No.

所以我对鲸鱼的恐惧是真实存在的。一想到它，我的心跳就加速。我不喜欢这种感觉。这个话题可以单独做一集节目，专门讲鲸鱼或水。天哪，我得冷静下来。

So my whale phobia is real. Thinking about it, like my heart is really racing. I don't like this. I could go on this could be a whole episode just on the whales or the water. Gosh, I have to calm down.

好了，就这样吧。我是如何保持如此完美的？很好的过渡。我是如何保持如此完美的？

Okay. That's that. How do I stay so flawless? Good transition. How do I stay so flawless?

我的护肤程序是什么？哦天哪。嗯，我觉得没人会认为自己完美无瑕。没人会说‘我的皮肤最好，零毛孔’。

And what's my skincare regimen? Oh my gosh. Well, I don't think anyone thinks that they are flawless. I don't think anyone's like, I have the best skin. I have no pores.

不，我会拿着放大镜坐着过度分析自己的皮肤。但我热爱护肤，喜欢保持简单。以前我会做八步护肤程序之类的。现在我觉得有时候过度护理反而不好。通常我是‘多多益善’型的人，但有时我们需要简化流程——每个人的肤质都不同。

No, I will sit there with a magnifying mirror and overanalyze my skin. But I love skincare, but I like to keep it simple. I used to do like the eight step programs or whatever. And I think that sometimes in this circumstance, I do think too much is too much. And normally I'm a more is more type of girl, but I think sometimes we just have to simplify things and whatever that is for you, everyone has different skin.

必须找到最适合自己的组合。但我坚信面部护理的重要性，比如每晚睡前必须洗脸。那些带妆睡觉的人，我不认同这种做法。还有皮肤保湿，晚间要用保湿霜。我特别喜欢用牛脂膏涂眼周，或者凡士林之类的产品——可以是维E油等任何让眼部充分润滑的东西。

You have to find what's the perfect combination for you. But I do believe in facials or even like you just have to wash your face every night before you go to bed. People that sleep in makeup, I don't believe in that stuff. And just, I believe in hydration for your skin, moisturizers at night. I love beef tallow that I put specifically like around my eyes or aqua for like any petroleum, something that makes your eyes, it could be an oil, vitamin E oil, anything that makes your eyes really lubricated.

这样睡觉时就不会产生眼周皱纹。我喜欢这样。总之要好好照顾自己。我爱激光护理，也痴迷护肤。

So when you sleep, you don't get wrinkles around your eyes. I like that. But really just take care of yourself. I love a laser. I love skincare.

任何面部护理之类的事我都愿意做。但切记不要过度，了解自己的肤质，选择最适合的方案。有时候少即是多。当母亲教会我的最重要一课是什么？

Anything like a facial, anything like that, I will do. But I think don't overdo it. Know your skin type and just do what's best for you. But sometimes less is more. What is the biggest lesson that being a mother has taught me?

哇。我觉得作为母亲，我每天都在从自己身上学到东西。真的。但我要说，除了与孩子们的关系和拥有世界上最无与伦比的爱之外，成为母亲后我最喜欢的是我现在对我母亲有了不同层次的尊重和感激。虽然我在有孩子之前就知道我妈妈很棒，但感觉是不同的，因为一旦你有了孩子，你就会意识到，哇，好吧，我们确实做出了所有这些牺牲，或者你明白了那些看似愚蠢的事情。

Wow. I feel like I learn lessons every day about myself from being a mom. I really do. But I will say, I think my my most favorite thing about becoming a mother besides my relationship with my kids and being able to have the most ultimate love in the world is the different level of respect and appreciation that I now have for my mother. And although I knew my mom was amazing before I had kids, it's a different feeling because once you have kids, you realize, wow, okay, we really do make all these sacrifices or you understand like silly things.

比如，我明白为什么我妈妈在我某个年龄时不让我养小狗。A 这需要很多工作。孩子们需要很多工作。他们做了那么多。当有人说想举办泳池派对或过夜派对时，你不会意识到这对父母来说意味着多少额外的工作。

Like, I get why my mom wouldn't let me have a puppy at a certain age. A It's lot of work. Kids are a lot of work. Like, they do so much. And you don't realize when someone says, want to have a pool party or a sleepover, how much more work that is on your parent.

从最小的事情到最大的事情都是如此。可能是生日派对或圣诞节，需要付出多少努力和工作。当你回想童年时，你会觉得一切都那么神奇，或者父母尽他们所能做到最好。对我来说，这让我更加感激我的父母。我妈妈一直是个了不起的妈妈。

That's like the smallest things to the biggest things. It could be birthday parties or Christmases, like how much effort and work that takes. And when you think back at your childhood and you're like, everything was so magical or the best my parent knew how to do. For me, it makes me appreciate mine so much more. And my mom was always such an incredible mom.

对我来说，我想说，我从妈妈那里学到了很多，但我想成为她的100倍，这说明了太多。我现在痴迷的流行音乐艺术家？我最近对音乐不太在行。这可能不太有共鸣，但我觉得每当我开车时，我都是和孩子们在一起。所以我听的是他们在听的东西。

And for me to say, wanna be I've learned so much from my mom, but I wanna be like her times a 100, like that says a lot. Any pop music artists that I'm obsessed with right now? I'm not great with music these days. This is not relatable, but I don't feel like whenever I'm in the car, I'm with kids. And so I'm listening to what they're listening to.

这部分可能有共鸣，但我现在很少一个人开车了。我不知道这有多少共鸣。我觉得我以前会打开收音机。这可能是我非常怀念的事情，然后尽情歌唱。在洛杉矶，一月份发生了火灾，我记得我们不得不疏散到棕榈泉，我不得不比孩子们晚一点出发。

That part's probably relatable, but I'm not in the car that much by myself anymore. And I don't know how relatable that is. And I feel like I used to turn on the radio. It's probably something I miss so much and sing my heart out. In LA, had the fires in January and I remember we had to evacuate to Palm Springs and I had to go at a later time than my kids.

我在车里，不开玩笑，花了七个小时才到棕榈泉，因为所有人都在疏散。我不在乎。我开了七个小时的演唱会。我是主唱。太棒了。

And I was in the car, not kidding, for seven hours to get to Palm Springs because everyone was evacuating. I didn't care. I had a concert for seven hours. I was the lead performer. It was amazing.

我以为我是玛丽亚·凯莉。我是阿丽亚娜·格兰德。我是所有人。太喜欢了。我怀念那样的时刻。

I thought I was Mariah Carey. I was Ariana Grande. I was everybody. Loved it. And I miss moments like that.

但全是老歌，倒不是特别古老的那种，就是些非当下的音乐。什么让我超级开心？天啊，我觉得和家人在一起时最幸福。我超爱宅在家里。

But it was all oldies music, like not oldies, oldies, but just music that's not current right now. What makes me super happy? Oh my gosh. I feel like I am the happiest when I'm surrounded by my family. I love being at home.

而且我喜欢人们来我家做客。前几天办了泳池派对，算是表亲们和我家孩子的开学第一天夏日派对，还来了几个其他小朋友。我就爱这种热闹，这些事让我心里特别暖。

I and I don't I love people like coming to me. I had a pool party the other day. It was their first day of summer party for all the cousins and my kids and just a few other kids. I love stuff like that. Like for me, that makes my heart happy.

我喜欢成为家庭聚会的中心，大家都来我家。我为此感到自豪。所以即便我嘴上抱怨，一天下来筋疲力尽，这些事依然让我快乐。那些回忆很珍贵，希望孩子们能永远记住。

I love being the home that's the hub and everyone comes to my house. I take pride in that. So that stuff makes me happy even if I'm complaining and I'm exhausted at the end of the day. That's fun. And I love those memories and I hope my kids are going to have those memories forever.

另外让我真正开心的就是瘫在床上刷剧，还没人打扰。你看，这是两种截然不同的快乐，但都让我同样幸福。我坚信的奇葩食物搭配？从小和我雪莉阿姨躺在床上，她总吃全麦薄饼配波特酒涂抹奶酪——那玩意儿估计不算真奶酪。

And then also what makes me really happy is laying in my bed and binge watching TV and no one talking to me. So there's definitely two very different sides and they both make me equally happy. What is a weird food combo that I swear by? My aunt Shelly, ever since I was a kid, I used to lay in bed with her and she would have wheat thins and port wine spreadable cheese. I don't think it's real cheese.

我觉得是高度加工的劣质品。但我冰箱里永远备着，因为太有怀旧感了。有时候情绪低落想暴食，就直接用薄饼舀着酒味奶酪吃，饼当勺子用。这组合怪诞又咸得要命，但我超爱。更因为里面承载着童年记忆，简直妙不可言。

I think it's like highly processed and not good. And I keep that in my fridge at all times because it's so nostalgic for me. And sometimes I'm like, I'm just in a funk and I want to pig out and you literally scoop the port wine cheese with the wheat thins and that's your spoon and you eat it and it's such a strange combination and it's the saltiest cheese in the world and I love it. But it's also the memories of my childhood. I think what's wrapped up in it And it's just amazing.

说实话我早上设几个闹钟？就一个。更神经的是，有时根本不用闹钟。偶尔会提前几分钟醒，反而气得要死：明明还能睡十分钟！但这十分钟很珍贵啊。不过我的生物钟已经固定了。

Be honest, how many alarms do I set in the morning? I set one alarm in the morning and what's really fucking demented, sometimes I don't even need the alarm. Like sometimes I'm up a few minutes before and I almost get angry with myself. I'm like, you had ten more minutes to sleep and those ten minutes matter. But my body clock, it's so used to getting up at a certain time.

就算不设闹钟，到点照样醒。我从小就不会睡懒觉——这得归功于我妈妈。她从不让我们赖床，小时候当然不爽，但现在超感激她培养的这些特质。正因为如此，我们全家都是抓住晨光的高效人士。

And if I don't have to set an alarm, I'll still wake up at that time. I'm not someone that can sleep in even since I was a kid, but that's because of my mom. My mom didn't allow us to sleep in. And as a kid, I obviously didn't like that. But as an adult, I'm so grateful that she instilled certain qualities and traits in us because, I mean, we're very productive people and I feel like we're that way because we seize the day.

我确实相信这一点。我该如何战胜恐惧呢？恐惧之所以为恐惧，正是因为它们未知。我认为你需要去熟悉它们，或许可以给恐惧命名。比如，假设我在过山车上——虽然我不喜欢过山车——但我曾对自己说，又不会死。

I do believe in that. How do I fight my fears? Well, I feel like fears are fears because they're unknown. I think you have to just familiarize yourself with them or maybe name your fear. Like, okay, for example, if I'm on a roller coaster, don't like roller coasters, but I've literally said to myself, it's not like I'm gonna die.

对吧？在当今世界，坐过山车确实可能丧命。所以最好别坐——这是我现在的想法。但年轻时我会想：不，我不会死。赶紧坐完完事儿。

Right? You might actually, in today's world, you might die being on a roller coaster. So just don't that's how I would feel now. But when I was younger, be like, no, I'm not going to die. So let's just get this over with and go on the ride.

你必须承认自己的恐惧，为恐惧命名。我会选择祷告，这是我的方式。但恐惧终究是恐惧。就像我害怕鲸鱼和广阔水域。

You have to like acknowledge your fears, name your fears. I would say a prayer. That's what I would do. But fears are fears. Like I don't like whales or big bodies of water.

如果自问：我会死吗？答案是肯定的。所以这是理性恐惧。但此刻在播客房间里害怕鲸鱼就不合理了——毕竟鲸鱼不可能推门而入。可我的心跳仍会加速。

And if I ask myself, can I possibly die? Yes. Yes, I can. So it's a rational fear Except right now being in this podcast room, it's irrational because it's not like a whale can walk in the door. But for some reason, my heart still races.

人生中哪个时刻让我感到最强大？很难说某个特定时刻。我觉得是无数经历共同塑造了我，让我能应对后来的困境。我相信生命中每件事都有其意义，即便不全是好事，每件事发生都有其阶梯式的缘由。

What moment of my life made me feel like the strongest version of myself. I don't know if there was one particular moment. I mean, I feel like I've had many moments that sort of prepared me for other situations in my life where I was able to endure them. So I feel like everything that happens in our lives is meant to happen. And even if they're not all positive situations, I do think that everything there's steps in why things happen to you.

比如与前夫的公开离婚事件。这本是我们两人的私事，曾经深爱却失去。但整个过程被高度曝光，这种经历前所未有。在家人的支持下我挺过来了，这成为后来应对更大创伤的铺垫——产前两天发现特里斯坦出轨时。

For example, with me and my ex husband, me going through such a public divorce and handling that. And yes, it was between him and I, and it was a great love that was now lost and that whole thing. It was so public, so public that I've never dealt with something like that before, but I dealt with it and I had my family support and all of that. That was sort of a stepping stone, if you will, for the next big traumatic thing that happened to me was when Tristan cheated on me right before I gave birth. And I don't.

当然没人能预料这种事。出轨本身不算稀奇，但当时我已怀孕九个月，两天后就要分娩，事件却被全网疯传。我想我尽了最大努力处理，因为从拉马尔离婚事件中，我几乎算是积累了丰富经验。

Obviously, no one can prepare you for something like that. And it wasn't the cheating that's like, Oh, like people get cheated on. But it was more that I was nine months pregnant. I was having a baby two days later and it was so public and it was everywhere. But I think I handled it the best that I knew how because I almost got a little experience of it or a lot of experience of it from my divorce with Lamar.

可以说它某种程度上让我有所准备，但如果那只是孤立事件，而你体内激素水平刚经历剧烈变化，正努力适应首次当妈妈的角色，或是试图专注当下体验这一刻，我不确定自己能否仅凭一己之力应对那种情况。因此，人生中的每次经历都在为我做铺垫。我认为当你克服这些经历后，会感到自己真正强大起来。对于自己处理生命中诸多关键时刻的方式，我深感自豪。最近我养成了什么让自己骄傲的习惯呢？

So it sort of prepared me, but if it was maybe just the one off situation and while you have these newly fresh hormones and you're just trying to even be a first time mom or be present in this moment and experience this moment, I don't know if I would have been able just to handle that isolated incident. And so everything prepared me for each experience in my life. And I think when you overcome those experiences, you feel really strong. And also for how I handled so many of those moments in my life, I'm really proud of myself for the way I handled them. What is a habit that I'm proud of developing lately?

我特别珍视每天早晨留给自己的专属时光。我意识到这让我一整天都感觉良好——早起喝咖啡，读圣经，祷告，这些为一天定调的仪式让我身心舒畅，也使日常运转更顺畅。我欣慰于自己坚持这个习惯足够久，能明显觉察到内在变化和日常体验的改善，这正是我持续下去的动力，毕竟持之以恒才是关键，短期坚持谁都能做到。

I love that I take time for myself every morning. I love that I've like I realized how good that makes me feel throughout my day. I love that I wake up early, but I have my coffee. I have my Bible time, my prayer time, and the way I set the tone for my day, it just makes me feel really good and my day functions better. And I love that I've I've done that and I've done it long enough that I've noticed such a change within myself or how my day feels that I continue to do that because consistency is key and it's easy to do something for a few days.

但要像宗教仪式般雷打不动地执行，就需要更多努力。比如昨晚孩子们在我房间开睡衣派对，争取个人时间变得困难，但我仍确保完成了晨间仪式——虽然比平时稍晚些。正是这种坚持让我保持良好状态，因此我为养成这个习惯感到骄傲。

But to do it religiously, it's harder work to do. Like we had a sleepover last night and I had all these little kids in my room and it wasn't as easy to make that time for myself. But I made sure I made it. It was a little later than normal, but I made sure I made it, and it just makes me feel better. So I'm proud of myself for developing that habit.

现在插播一条赞助商信息。最近我饱受奇怪的深层肩痛困扰，但和多数人一样，我没选择明智做法而是硬扛——工作实在太忙了。

We're gonna take a quick break to hear from our sponsors. I've been dealing with some weird, very deep shoulder pain. And instead of doing the smart thing, I did what most of us do. I just waited. I'm really busy with work.

我天真以为它会自愈，说实话也不清楚该挂哪个科室。经典借口对吧？我们都知道预约医生有时让人头大。这时我想起了Zocdoc，它让整个流程变得异常简单。

I just thought it would heal on its own, and honestly, I really didn't know what type of doctor to go to for that. Classic excuses. Right? We all know that booking a doctor's appointment feels overwhelming sometimes. But then I remembered Zocdoc, and it has made the whole process ridiculously easy.

Zocdoc是免费应用和网站，能搜索比对优质医保网络内的医生并即时预约。通常我要等几周甚至几个月才能约到，但通过Zocdoc预约基本24-72小时内就能就诊，有时甚至当天。前两周我在上班时突发牙科急症，结果找到了距办公室四个街区、当天下午就能接诊的医生——就这么简单。无论你需要心理健康、牙科、基础医疗还是急诊服务，都能按专科搜索。

ZocDoc is a free app and website where you can search for and compare high quality in network doctors and instantly book an appointment. I feel like I'm usually waiting weeks or months to find an opening, but appointments made through ZocDoc usually happen within twenty four to seventy two hours and sometimes even the same day. I had a little dental emergency when I was at work a couple weeks ago, and I was able to find someone four blocks from my office who could take me that afternoon. It was actually that easy. You can search for doctors by specialty, whether you need mental health care, dental, primary care, urgent care, you name it.

你可以根据地理位置、保险类型筛选，查看真实患者的认证评价——这点我很喜欢，能让你心中有数。找到合适医生后，只需选择最方便的时间点击预约即可。真的就这么简单。

You can filter by location, insurance, and you can see real reviews from verified patients, which I really like. So you kinda actually know what you're walking into. Once you find someone who fits your needs, you can just choose the time that works best for you and click to book. That's it. I'm serious.

无需电话追逐，不必等待接通，更不用纠结是否在服务网络内。一切尽在一处。以我的亲身经历来说，我经常使用ZocDoc。

No phone tag. No waiting on hold. No stressing about whether they're in network. It's all right there in one place. And I can tell you from experience, I use ZocDoc frequently.

若你想消除整个预约流程的压力，也该试试它。别再拖延就医预约，立即访问zocdoc.com/chloe，今天就能找到并即时预约顶级评价医生。网址是z0cd0c.com/chloe。Zocdoc.com/chloe。

And if you wanna take the stress out of this whole process, you should try it too. Stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to zocdoc.com/chloe to find and instantly book a top rated doctor today. That's z0cd0c.com/chloe. Zocdoc.com/chloe.

你可能听说过Venmo这个小东西，但你知道Venmo不仅能用来还朋友钱吗？没错。让我为你介绍Venmo借记卡，它能让你以多种方式消费Venmo余额。你可以用Venmo支付任何事物——只要你能购买，就能用它付款。

So you've probably heard of a little thing called Venmo, but did you know that Venmo can be used for more than paying your friends back? It's true. Allow me to introduce you to the Venmo debit card, which lets you spend your Venmo balance in so many ways. You can literally Venmo anything and everything. If you can shop for it, you can pay for it.

有了Venmo借记卡，我能用它支付正在讲话的麦克风、这副耳机、工作室租金、手边的咖啡、配送中的大宗订单、健身装备、修复发质用的发膜，以及瘫沙发时追剧的订阅费。Venmo借记卡开启了Venmo的全新使用场景。收到酒钱还款？用余额支付回家车费。卖出一双鞋？

With the Venmo debit card, I can Venmo this mic I'm speaking into, these headphones, the rent for the studio space, the coffee sitting next to me, the giant delivery order en route, my workout gear, the hair mask for my recovery everything shower, and the TV subscription for my couch rot after. The Venmo debit card unlocks all new ways to use Venmo. Got paid back for drinks? Use your balance to pay for your ride home. Sold a pair of shoes?

用余额购入新鞋。更不用说借记卡提供多种颜色可选，总能匹配你的审美风格，这点我们超爱。用Venmo借记卡支付万物。访问venmo.me/debit了解详情并立即注册。Venmo使用限制条款适用。

Use your balance to buy new shoes. Not to mention the debit card comes in a whole bunch of colors, so you can pick one that matches your aesthetic, and we love that. Venmo everything with Venmo debit card. Visit venmo.me backslash debit to learn more and sign up today. Venmo purchase restrictions apply.

Venmo万事达卡由The Bancorp Bank NA根据万事达国际组织许可发行。可在所有接受万事达的场所使用。此刻家对我意味着什么？是地点、某人还是一种感觉？对我来说，家就是家人，始终如此。

The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp Bank NA pursuant to license by Mastercard International Incorporated. Card may be used everywhere Mastercard is accepted. What does home mean to me right now? Is it a place, a person, or a feeling? You know, home for me, it's really my family, and I feel like it's always been my family.

而我的家是个非常庞大的家庭。不只是孩子和我自己。当然那也是家的一种形态。但当我想到终极意义上的家时，那包括孩子、我自己、母亲、兄弟姐妹以及他们的孩子们。这是最棒也最疯狂的混乱，但我深爱这一切。

And for me, it's my very big family. It's not just my kids and myself. Yes, that is a version of home. But I think when I think of my, like, ultimate home, it's my kids and myself and then my mom and my siblings and all of their kids that come with it. It's the best and it's the best craziest chaos, but I love it.

我对此心怀感激与幸运，这份情感让我感到安全、舒适且幸福。是的，或许会有争执与戏剧性事件，但这也是最美好的那种，就像你们所了解的那样。我认为家人之间往往争吵最激烈，因为至少对我们而言，总会再次交谈，永远不会真正断绝联系。

And I'm so grateful and blessed that I have that. And it's something that makes me feel safe and comfortable and happy. And yes, there might be fighting and drama, but it's also the best kind and kind that, you know, like you. I think when you're family, you fight the hardest because at least for us, we're always going to talk to each other again. We're never not going not speak to each other.

所以这是一个你可以完全做自己，无需为任何人表演的地方。最近你设定的哪个界限改变了你的生活状态？我是个典型的讨好型人格，多年来总是答应别人或出于愧疚去做事。大概过去两年左右——可能更久——我开始有意识地坚持'说不就是说不'，我允许自己拒绝。

So it's where you can be your complete self and not feel like you have to perform for anybody, I guess. What's a boundary you've set recently that's changed your piece? I am very much a people pleaser and I for years have always said yes or I've done things just because I felt guilty to not do them. And I don't know, maybe the past two years or so, it could be longer, but I've made a very strong conscious effort to no means no. I'm allowed to say no.

'不'本身就是完整的句子。当然我还做不到微笑着简单拒绝，总得解释原因，但我正在改进。如果某个场合让我真正不适，或影响次日状态，我有权说不——这对我的心理健康（虽然这个词被过度使用）产生了巨大影响。过去履行某些承诺时，我常感到压力与不安。

No is a complete sentence. Of course, I'm not good at just being no with a smile. I have to explain why I don't wanna do something, but I'm working on it. If I'm truly uncomfortable being somewhere or just not happy or if it messes me up for the next day, you're allowed to say no. And that has made a huge difference even on my Mental health is an overused word, but yes, on my mental health, I feel like I used to feel so pressured or insecure sometimes just doing some of these commitments.

能掌握拒绝的权利让我感觉棒极了。会再要个孩子吗？常有人问。目前我很清楚：这与年龄无关。

And I feel really great that I have such power in no no. Would I have another baby? I get that question a lot. So I right now know I am. It's not about age.

我即将41岁，但这与年龄无关。我知道现代女性可以晚育。如果结婚我会考虑，否则绝不——我不想成为单亲妈妈。现有育儿体系运转良好，我还要照顾许多其他孩子。

I'm going to be 41 shortly, and it's not about age. I know women can have babies later now. I would consider having another baby if I was married, but otherwise, no. I don't want to just have another kid and be a single mom. I have a great system right now with my kids, and I also take care of a lot of other children too.

我的生活已经很充实。当（不是如果）遇见未来丈夫时，若他想要孩子，我们可以商议。我并不觉得人生缺失什么，有些女性渴望第三第四个孩子，这很棒——但我现在非常幸福。

So there's a lot on my plate. But if when, not if, when I meet my husband and if it's something that he wants, then we can talk about it. I'm not Like I'm I don't feel that I'm missing anything in my life. I know some women are like, want a third baby or a fourth, and that's amazing. But I feel so happy.

我热爱现在的生活和孩子们，现有的精力足以分配给每个人。当然若有第三个孩子，我相信会找到应对的能量。

I love my life. I love my kids. I feel like I there's enough of me right now that can go around for everyone. And I'm sure I'll make you find the energy for all your children. So if I do have a third one day.

我会找到那份精力。为了那个孩子所需的精力。但现在，我觉得一切都很好。不过等我找到那个丈夫时，我们还得再看看。如果那是他想要的，我会考虑。

I'll find the energy. That I need for that child. But right now, I just think everything's great. But we'll have to see for when I find that husband. And if that's something if it's something he wants, I would consider it.

人们还在问你是否有在约会。

People are also asking if you're dating.

我没有在约会。我知道。这消息很令人兴奋吧。我没有约会，但我很喜欢现在的生活。真的非常喜欢。

I am not dating. I know. Very exciting news. I'm not dating, but I'm I love it here. I really do.

我感觉我的生活一直很快乐轻松。虽然有点伤感，但很享受。也许是因为我没有在约会。我觉得生活中的戏剧性少了很多，我很喜欢这样的状态。很久没有这样了，我很享受现在的空间。

I feel like my life has been so happy and light and. It's really sad, but like enjoyable. And maybe that's because I haven't been dating. I feel like a lot of the drama is out of my life, and I love that for me. Like, haven't had that in a long time and I'm enjoying this space where I'm in.

我爱我的日常。我喜欢现在能专注于工作和孩子们。当然还有我的大家庭。同时，我对带着孩子约会确实有顾虑。不知道为什么会有这些担忧，但我不愿因为另一个人的出现而为孩子改变自己。

I love my routine. I love that I'm really focused on work and my kids right now. And then, of course, my extended family. And also, I do have fears about dating with kids. I don't know why these are my fears, but I would never want to change who I am for my children because another person came into my life.

我不知道这些恐惧是否合理，还是我自己胡思乱想，但这确实是我的一大担忧。我永远不想在情感上被孩子疏远。这不是我现在想要的状态。我的孩子们还很小，一个三岁，一个七岁。

And I don't know if these fears are rational or I'm making everything up in my head, but like that's a big fear of mine. I never want to be taken away from my kids even emotionally. Like that's just not what I'm about right now. My kids are so young. They're three and seven.

这就是我的恐惧。改变我的日常，改变我陪伴孩子的时间。我不希望这成为影响因素。这是一点。另外，有些人真的太可怕了。

And I that's a fear of mine. Just changing my routine, changing how much I how much time I spend with my kids. I just don't want that to be a factor. That's one. You also people are fucking scary.

比如，我不知道要多久才能放心让其他人接近我的孩子。我不信任任何人，真的不知道。我看到的新闻都太可怕了，根本不知道别人私下是什么样、会做什么。

Like, I don't know if I I don't know how long it would take for me to feel comfortable with someone else around my kids. I don't trust anyone. I don't I don't know. I just see and read crazy shit. I'm like, I don't know what anyone's about, what anyone does in their private time.

所以想到有男人接近我的孩子就害怕。真的不知道...我觉得我做不到。我现在的生活很幸福，也很满足。

So I don't that really scares me having like a man around my kids. That's I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I can do that. I love my life right now and I'm happy.

我每天都感觉很好。如果真遇到合适的人——比如现在有人走进这个播客间，气场特别合拍——那我可能会考虑。但我现在没有主动约会。至于相信外星生命吗？或者遇到过超自然现象吗？

I feel great every day. And if I meet someone, if someone walks in this podcast room right now and it's like, hey, and I get I love that person's energy, then I would think about it. But I'm not actively trying to go on dates. Do I believe in life out in space? And have I ever had an encounter or paranormal activity?

好吧。超自然现象是指鬼魂吗？当然！这够做一整期节目了，我经历过太多这类事。不过先打住。

Okay. Well, is paranormal activity like ghosts? Yes. You guys, that's a whole episode cause I've had tons. But Okay.

相信外星生命吗？废话！我们总不能自恋到认为地球是唯一有生命的星球吧？学校教我们说太阳系有八九个行星...

Do I believe in life out in space? Duh. You guys, we can't be that narcissistic to think that we're the only living planet out there. When you're in school, you're taught, I think there was like eight or nine planets. This is your solar system.

没错这是我们的太阳系。但宇宙中有无数黑洞，我们还在不断发现新行星。不是说其他星球适合人类生存，但某处肯定存在其他生命体——这是我的观点。这根本是理所当然的事。

Yes, this is our solar system. There's black hole after black hole, and there's planets after planets that we're discovering all the time. So I'm not saying that there's another planet out there that can support human life, but there are other living organisms on another planet somewhere. That's my opinion. And just because hello, feel like that has to be.

遇到过超自然现象吗？我见过UFO。当时和Malika在一起，都是好多年前的事了。

And have I ever had an encounter or paranormal activity? I have seen a UFO. Have. I was with Malika. This was ages ago.

我记得当时我正在开车。我看到了UFO，而她从未看见过，但我的反应让她一直相信我，因为我们当时正开车前往——是为了赶时间。那时我们没有在拍摄，但我正开车去参加我的采访环节，我清楚地记得位置。我记得我尖叫着说，天哪，Malika。我几乎说不出话来，那东西就消失了。

And I was I remember where I was driving. I saw UFO and she never saw it, but my reaction, she's always believed me because we were driving to it was for keeping up. We were not filming at the time, but I was driving to my interview session and I know exactly where I was. And I remember I screamed and I said, Oh my gosh, Malika. Like I couldn't get the words out and the thing just disappeared.

Malika相信我，因为她觉得我是多么确定和自信。我声音中的尖叫让她觉得，我知道你看到了什么，就是这样，我们后来也没怎么谈论它。我确实见过一些东西，虽然从未见过外星人或类似的东西，但我相信它们的存在。

And Malika believed me because she was like, How sure and confident I was. The shriek in my voice. She was like, I know you saw something and that was it, and we didn't really talk about it. And I've definitely seen things. I've never seen like an alien or anything like that, but I do believe in that.

超自然现象经常发生在我身上。这相当诡异，但与此同时我也能接受。在我之前的房子里，发生过几次这样的情况。我记得我们甚至拍摄了一些，比如请能量清理师、驱鬼师来我家。因为有一次我在白天睡觉，那天晚上发生了一些事让我无法入睡。

And paranormal activity happens all the time to me. It's pretty creepy, but I'm also okay with it at the same time. My last house, I've had a few situations happen. I think we even filmed some of them like a energy clearer, ghost clearer. Someone came to my house because I was sleeping and I remember it was in the day and something happened that night where I couldn't sleep.

所以我发短信给我姐姐，因为我从不在白天小睡。Court住得离我很近，只隔一个街区。我记得我说，我要小睡一会儿。所以如果你需要我，我不会接电话，直接过来就行。

So I text my sister because I never take naps in the day. And court lived like a block away from me. I remember saying, I'm going to take a nap. So if you need me, I'm just not like, come over. I'm not gonna answer the phone.

这对我来说很奇怪。然后有什么东西在我耳边低语，说，Chloe，醒醒。它说了这句话。我记得我闭上眼睛，然后说，我现在要睁开眼睛了，请不要在那里。

And that was weird for me. And something whispered in my ear and was saying, Chloe, wake up. And it said it. And I was like, I remember closing my eyes and I said, I'm going to open my eyes now. Please don't be there.

因为那是一个男人的声音，把我吓坏了。我慢慢睁开眼睛，什么都没有。我想，谢天谢地。然后我的卧室门自己打开又关上了。

Because it was a man's voice and it freaked me out. And I opened my eyes slowly. Nothing was there. I was like, thank God. And then my bedroom door opened and shut.

我记得，Alexa，你是知道的。

And I remember, Alexa, you know this.

是啊，这太疯狂了。我又起鸡皮疙瘩了。

Yeah, this is crazy. I have chills again.

我当时给考特妮打电话说，你他妈赶紧过来。有些事把我吓坏了。那时我一个人住，简直糟透了。我们请人来做了次能量探测。

And I was I called Courtney and I was like, you need to get the fuck over here. There's some it freaked me. I lived alone at the time. It was horrible. We had someone come over and did like an energy reading.

我没告诉他们事发地点，但他们准确指出了灵体位置。他们问：'你家门是不是会自己开合？'这人无所不知。他叫杰瑞。

I did not tell them where this situation happened. They knew exactly where the spirit was. They said, did your door open and shut? Like this person knew everything. His name is Jerry.

他就叫这个名字。愿他安息，本名是希拉尔多，但我们叫他杰瑞。杰瑞不坏，他只是想被注意到。自从我承认他存在后，门偶尔会自己开合，我总被吓得够呛。

That's his name. That's what RIP, his name's Giraldo, but we nicknamed him Jerry. Jerry's nice. He just wanted to be acknowledged. Once I acknowledged and the door would open and shut from time to time and I would hate it and it would freak me out.

后来就那样了，但总有人说灵体通过电器交流，比如电视之类的。我的音响老是出问题，各种怪事不断。后来我建房期间租了房子，屋里有个灵体小女孩——那种超自然的小女孩——她实在太可怕了。

And that was sort of that, but I always had they say spirits speak through electronics and like your TV, that kind of stuff. And so I always was having problems with my music. Like it was there was tons of shit. Then I had a rental house while I was building my last house and there was a little girl in the house. I mean, like a paranormal little girl and I she was she was horrible.

我们都不喜欢她。不知道她是谁，也不知道名字，从没请人来探测过。但连特鲁都注意到她了。

We do not like her. I don't know her. Don't know her name. I never had anyone come to detect her. But even True, True noticed her.

特鲁这辈子从不做噩梦。可那女孩会进她房间弄醒她，特鲁会告诉我这些事，后来我再不让特鲁睡那里了。

True never had nightmares in her life. And then this girl would go in her room. She would wake her up. True would tell me about her. I would never let True sleep in there.

我会睡在True的地板上。那时她还睡在婴儿床里。我的一位保姆非常反对任何超自然事物。她会说，别跟我提这些，我不信这些鬼东西。

And I would sleep on True's floor. She was still in a crib. One of my one nanny is so against anything paranormal. She would be like, don't talk to me about it. I don't believe in this shit.

一点都不信。我们搬家时她说，有件事要告诉你，我很高兴终于要离开了，因为我看到了Tru所说的那些影子，只是不愿承认。但我们必须离开这里，太可怕了。

None of it. When we were moving out, she said, I'm I want to tell you something. I'm so glad that we're finally leaving because I saw the shadows that Tru speaks of, and I didn't want to admit it. But we need to get out of here. It's horrible.

我当时想，你现在才告诉我？其实我知道那些影子的存在。记得在那个租住的房子里，我的卧室外有条走廊，木地板能清楚听到脚步声，甚至能分辨出是小孩子的还是大人的。有次我在房间听到走廊有脚步声，还以为是True爬出了婴儿床。

And I'm like, now you're telling me like I've because I knew the shadows were there. And this little girl, I remember at this rental, I had my bedroom and there's like a hallway and the floor is wood. And, you know, if someone you could hear someone's foot footsteps and you could sort of hear the weight of their footsteps. Like, you know, oh, that's a little kid's footsteps versus an adult. I was in my room and I heard somebody walking down the hallway and I was like, did True get out of her crib?

因为那是小孩的脚步声。但True还在睡觉。那是个小女孩，我记得她在我躺着时梳理了我的头发，简直毛骨悚然。

Because it was a little kid's footsteps. True was still sleeping. It was a little girl. I remember she brushed my hair when I was laying down. That was horrifying.

后来我在那个房间从不敢关灯睡觉，因为有人告诉我‘她喜欢关灯的环境’，我立刻拒绝说‘不，绝对不行’。还有次看到按摩浴缸——透过小窗户能看到——整个浴缸被排空，底部有个玩具。

And I never slept with the light off in that room because I asked someone and they were like, she likes when the lights are off. And I was like, no, you don't. Uh-uh. And the pool, we had a Jacuzzi. The Jacuzzi was one day I looked out, so there was a little window and there was I can see the Jacuzzi.

就在小女孩梳我头发后的第二天，我听到她在哼歌，顿时起鸡皮疙瘩。那个排空的按摩浴缸底部躺着个芭比娃娃，我们都吓坏了。Alexa现在就在屋里。

I look this was like probably the next day after this girl brushed my hair and I just heard her humming. Like I could have chills. And there was a Barbie or a doll in the Jacuzzi and the whole Jacuzzi was drained and a toy was at the bottom of it. And we were I was so freaked out. Alexa is in here.

全家都吓得不轻。不知道它们是否跟着我，但谢天谢地那个小女孩没跟来。True和Tatum都有点特殊感应能力——毕竟Tristan的母亲是牙买加人。

We were all freaked out. I don't know if they follow me. We don't know guys, but I don't think Jerry's come with us anywhere, but this little girl, thank God she doesn't come with us anywhere. True and Tatum, they both have a little gift. They are so when Tristan's mom is Jamaican.

所以牙买加人，你的口音很重。当时特鲁伊大概四岁半或五岁，特里斯坦的妈妈去世了，她在新冠疫情期间住在加拿大。边境关闭了，所以特鲁伊没能经常见到她，但我们通过电话和她联系。特鲁伊没能像我们希望的那样多陪在她身边，但他们仍然非常亲密。她的名字叫安德莉亚。

So Jamaican, you have a thick accent. True at the time, maybe four and a half or five when Tristan's mom passed away and she lived in Canada during COVID. The border was closed, so True didn't get to see her very much, but we spoke to her on the phone. But True didn't get to be with her as much as we would have liked, but they were still very connected. Her name is Andrea.

安德莉亚是在早上去世的，但那天晚上特鲁伊整夜没睡。她一直说，妈妈，妈妈，我房间里有位女士。我就说，好吧。但我总是相信她，因为我相信这类事情。所以我问，好吧，那位女士在哪儿？

Andrea passed away in the morning, but that night True was up the entire night. She kept saying, Mommy, mommy, there's a lady in my room. And I was like, Okay. But I always believe her because I believe in this stuff. So I was like, Okay, where's the lady?

她说，她在那儿。她的声音很滑稽，但她在笑。特里斯坦的妈妈是最有趣、最开朗的人，她总是笑个不停。特鲁伊从没把这两件事联系起来，但她告诉我这位女士整晚不让她睡觉，女士告诉她有多爱她，以及她要回家了。

She's like, She's there. She has a silly voice, but she's laughing. And Tristan's mom is the funniest, like jolliest person. Like, all she does is laugh. And she True was like, never put two and two together, but True was telling me about this lady who was keeping her up at night and the lady told her how much she loved her and she was going home.

安德莉亚非常虔诚。现在回想起来，这一切都说得通了。总之，第二天早上我们接到电话说特里斯坦的妈妈去世了，我说，能不能有人去——那天我得飞往加拿大陪特里斯坦，为安德莉亚安排葬礼。我说，我需要有人去接特鲁伊。我不能就这样出国，不跟还在学校的她道别。

And Andrea is very religious. So now in hindsight, all this makes sense. Anyways, that the next morning we get the call that Tristan's mom passed away and I said, can someone go I had to fly to Canada that day to be with Tristan and do funeral arrangements for Andrea. And I said, I need someone to go pick up True. I can't just leave the country and not say bye to her while she's at school.

于是他们去了。我的保姆说，在回家的车上，她一直在谈论昨晚在她房间里看到的那位女士，说她的声音很有趣。我说，我不知道。我还是不明白她在说什么。我们以后再处理那位女士的事。

So they did. And my nanny said, you know, in the car ride home, she kept talking about this lady that she saw last night in her room and was saying about the funny voice. I'm like, I don't know. I'm still like, I don't know what she's talking about. We'll deal with the lady later.

他们说，我想她是在说安德莉亚，她的口音就是那个滑稽的声音，因为所有描述都符合安德莉亚。她说，我爱你，我想让你知道我要回家了，家就是天堂。安德莉亚会有这种能力，她会知道。安德莉亚与上帝的联系非常紧密。我相信这一点。

And they were like, I think she's talking about Andrea and her accent is the funny voice because everything describing is Andrea. And she said, I love you and I want you to know I'm going home and home being heaven. And Andrea would have that ability that she would know. Like Andrea was so connected to God. And I believe that.

特鲁伊一直记得这个故事。我相信她的故事。我相信我的孩子们告诉我他们看到或听到的一切，我从不怀疑他们，因为这就是人们不再看到或相信某些事情的原因。我的衣柜里有一双靴子，是我爸爸给我的。那是我第一件设计师的东西。

And True just has stayed with this story. I believe her story. I believe all my kids when they tell me they see things or hear things, I never want to put doubt in them because that's why people stop seeing things or believing things. I have a pair of boots in my closet that my dad gave me. It was my first designer thing.

我爸爸以前非常反对给我们买名牌。我记得尼曼百货有一次双倍折扣活动，我爸破例说可以给我买一双设计师靴子。那是我人生第一双名牌靴，大概十四五岁吧。总之是双杜嘉班纳的靴子，但因为是在疯狂促销时买的，可能只花了50美元，对他来说简直是奇迹。

My dad was like really big on not giving us designer things. And I remember Neiman Marcus had like a double sale, and my dad was like, I'll buy you a pair of designer boots. It was my first pair. I think it was like 14 or 15. And anyways, they're these Dolce and Gabbana boots, but they were like probably $50 because he got them at like this crazy sale and felt like he was it was amazing.

我像供奉圣物般珍藏着这双靴子。它们现在就陈列在我的衣橱里——不是用来穿的，而是作为纪念品。靴子总会莫名其妙倒下。每当这时，我就觉得是爸爸在和我打招呼，我已经学会自然地回应：'嗨，老爸'。

I like idol. I still have the boots because they're so special to me. These boots, they're on display like in my closet because they're not to be worn, it's just a memory. And they'll fall over all the time. Like if I'm thinking about my something about my dad, it's and I'm like and I'll I've learned to be like, okay, hi dad.

我会对着靴子和他聊天，但其他时候靴子绝对不会移动——除非是与我父亲有关的事。这很难具体解释举例，但我相信这种感应。除了那个让我感觉不好的小女孩，我不认为灵魂都是恶意的。我总是会大声说出来，因为有人告诉我要承认'我看到你了'或'我听到你了'。作为上帝的虔诚信徒，我只赋予上帝力量。

And like, I'll talk to him, but no other time do these boots move unless it's something to do with my like you it's hard to explain and give an example for it, but I believe in that stuff. So I don't think spirits are bad besides that girl. That girl did not feel good, that little girl, but everything else I'm like, I always will say out loud because I was told, acknowledge that I see you or I hear you, but I'm a believer of God. You don't have power. I only give power to God.

就像说：'我不是来侵占你的空间，你想说什么都可以...但别来招惹我'。要表明你信仰谁。这听起来很玄乎，但我确实相信这些。

Like, I'm not here to take over your space. You just say whatever, something like that. You just you acknowledge them, but tell them don't fuck with you. And like who you believe in, like, but it is crazy. And I believe in all of that.

你爸爸他...

Does your dad

会来看孩子们吗？

visit the kids?

我觉得我爸会来看泰特姆，虽然孩子还不会表达。也可能只是我一厢情愿...说实话我挺沮丧的，因为感受到他的次数远没有我期望的那么多。

You know, I get I feel like my dad visits Tatum, but he can't really articulate it. But I just feel like that. It could be wishful thinking. I don't know. My dad, I get frustrated with because I don't feel him as much as I would like.

有时我会想，来吧，来看看我们。但我知道他一直在那里。有时我只是希望他能更强烈地显现。我不确定他是否去看望True。她没说过，但大家都会谈论他。

And sometimes I'm like, come on, come and visit us. But I know he's always there. Sometimes I just want a stronger presence of him. And I don't know if he visits True. Not that she says, but they will all talk about him.

就像他们都谈论他们的祖父，仿佛他们都见过他，但实际上没人见过。所以我感觉他以某种方式存在，即使他们没意识到，不是以可怕的方式，只是他已离去。二十一年了，他离开的时间比我认识他的时间还长。我认识我父亲十九年，而他离开得更久。通常来说，离开这么多年后。

Like they all talk about their grandpa as if they've met him and none of them have met him. So I feel like he makes his presence known even if they don't realize it, not in a scary way or anything, but to be gone. Twenty one years, he's gone longer than I've known him for. I knew my dad for nineteen and he's been gone longer than that. So for you to be gone for that many years normally.

这是生活中一个悲伤的现实，但通常故事会逐渐淡去。也许在某些节日或特定日子会被提起，但我父亲每周都会被提及几次，这让我非常开心。给我们所有人带来欢乐。孩子们谈论他，这很美好，因为你知道，他们都没见过他。

Which is a sad reality of life, but normally. The stories sort of fade away. Maybe you're spoken about on certain holidays or certain days, but my dad gets spoken about a few times a week, which makes me so happy. It brings all of us joy. The kids speak about him, and that's a beautiful thing because, you know, none of them have met him.

通常情况不会是这样。所以我不确定我父亲是否去看望孩子们，但我觉得他去了，因为他被如此频繁地提起。你和我妈妈最美好的记忆是什么？我和妈妈有太多美好的回忆，我不知道哪个是最喜欢的。

And normally that wouldn't be the case. So I don't know if my dad visits the kids, but I feel like he does because he's spoken about so often. What's your favorite memory with my mom? I have so many amazing memories with my mom. I don't know if I have a favorite.

我只知道我爱她，她是最好的，我有太多太多美好的回忆。Kim说过一个很有趣的观点，我从未那样想过。对我们家庭来说，我父亲是个不可思议的好爸爸。

I just know I love her and she's the best and I have. Such such great memories and Kim said something really interesting. That I never thought of that. It for our family. My dad was such an incredible dad.

我们关系非常好，而我妈妈——这并不意味着我们的关系或她不够好。她同样不可思议，现在也是。但有时当你失去一位父母，他们会变成英雄。他一直都是，但你总是谈论他们，有时你还在世的父母，这很可悲，Kim指出这点，他们某种程度上被忽视了，好像没有得到足够的认可。我们总是说，我爸爸，我爸爸，我爸爸。

We had such a great relationship and my mom that doesn't make our relationship or her less. She was equally as incredible and is as incredible. But sometimes when you lose a parent, they become this hero. He always was, but you speak about them so much and sometimes that your living parent, which is so sad, Kim made this point, they sort of get overshadowed and like they don't get enough recognition. Like we're always like, my dad, my dad, my dad.

而我妈妈同样伟大。我知道我该谈论一个回忆，但有时我会想，不是说她可能会嫉妒，那太疯狂了。我不是那个意思，但我们有时确实会孤立地说，我爸爸为我们的童年做了这么多，那我呢？她说得对。

And my mom is equally as great. I know I'm supposed to talk about a memory, but sometimes I think about that, that not that she would ever be jealous. That's like crazy. I'm not suggesting that, but we do sort of isolate sometimes and say, my dad did all of this for our childhood and so what about me? Like, she's right.

确实如此。我认为这对任何父母来说都是一个艰难的处境，因为你也不能嫉妒。这种情绪很奇怪，但我确信当我们讲述这些故事、如此聚焦于我父亲时，她可能会感到被冷落——我们是为了纪念他，让他的记忆延续，却无意中淡化了她同样在场的事实。你觉得我的生活看起来正常吗？还是你依然能感受到成名前后的差异？哦，差别实在太大了。

It is. It's a tough position for, I think, any parent to be in because you can't be jealous either. Like, that's a very weird emotion, but I'm sure she might feel like, left out when we tell these stories and we focus on my dad so much because we're trying to honor him and keep his memory alive, but we sort of take away that she was there too, and we don't mean to. Does my life feel normal, or do you still feel the difference between pre fame and now? Oh, there's such a big difference.

我是说，这些变化...不知道是否也和时间有关，我觉得两者兼有。差异非常巨大。以前我可以去任何地方做任何事，尽情享受生活，不用在意形象或自我呈现，因为没人认识我。你可以随心所欲。而且我成长的时代还没有现在这种拍照手机。

I mean, the things and I don't know if also just time I think it's both. So there's a huge difference. I mean, I used to be able to like go anywhere and do anything and have the fucking time of my life and not worry about how I looked, how I have to like present myself because no one knew who I was. You can just do whatever. And but I also lived in a time where there wasn't camera phones like that.

所以我不确定这是否是混合因素。我觉得自己成长在最美好的时代——我的童年、青少年和二十岁出头时没有拍照手机，成名也差不多是同期发生的。但差异确实非常显著。

So I don't know if it's a mix. I feel like I grew up in like the best era because it was my childhood and teenage and young twenties didn't have camera phones. Famous. Then both came at similar times. But there's a huge difference.

我确实热爱现在的状态，但也怀念某些简单的快乐，比如冲进商店不用顾虑形象，或是匆忙办事时的自在——这些都不复存在了。想去酒吧跳舞或做类似的事？除非你愿意全程被录像，否则再也无法实现。在拉斯维加斯或迈阿密和闺蜜们疯玩整夜？除非在严格控制的场合，否则也不可能了。

And I do like I love where I am now, but I also miss certain simple pleasures of like just running into the store. You don't have to worry about like how you look or just if you're just like in a hurry having to do something like those things are gone. Or if I want to just go to a bar or go dancing or do something like you can't do those things anymore unless you want to be videotaped the entire time. It's just a different thing. Going out, having a wild night in Vegas or Miami and just like having fun with your girlfriends like that, you can't do unless it's in a very controlled setting.

不过或许因为拍照手机的普及，现在人们普遍更有这种感受？我不确定。你如何保护孩子免受你感情经历或媒体报道的影响？好在我的孩子们没有社交媒体，他们年龄尚小我还能掌控这些——塔图姆七月就三岁了，特鲁七岁。

But maybe people feel that way more now because of camera phones, like just in general. I don't know. How do you deal with protecting your kids from things that have happened in your relationships or the media? Well, my kids don't have social media, so I'm really lucky that my kids are at an age where I can control those things still. Tatum is going to be three at the July, True seven.

他们没有手机，iPad也只是用来看YouTube之类，没有任何社交媒体应用。在这方面我很幸运。很多人对你吃麦片这件事特别着迷想深入了解？哦，我超爱麦片。

And so they don't have like their phones are, they don't have phones, but their iPads are, you know, to watch YouTube or whatever. It's not, they don't have a social media app, none of that stuff. So I'm lucky in that regard. A lot of people were fascinated and wanted to know a lot about you consuming cereal. Oh, I love cereal.

那些关于麦片的问题是怎么回事？

What about these cereal questions?

等等。我确实喜欢麦片。没想到这是个如此重要的问题。我爱麦片。这挺有意思的。

Stop. Well, I do love cereal. I didn't realize this was such a big question. I love cereal. It's interesting.

我宁愿晚上吃麦片。我觉得晚上吃起来味道好多了。我其实不太在意早餐，我不是个热衷早餐的人，但早上我一般不会选择麦片。我想在晚上吃麦片。

I would rather have cereal at night. Like I think it tastes so much better. I don't really care. I'm not a huge breakfast girl, but I don't really care for I don't think I go for cereal in the morning. I want cereal at night.

周围没人的时候，我一边看电视剧，一边想吃那种甜味的儿童麦片。比如水果圈、幸运符、肉桂吐司脆。

No one's around me. And I'm like watching a TV show and I want it to be a sugary kids cereal. I. E. Fruit Loops, Lucky Charms, Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

我可以接受蜂蜜坚果麦圈，但不如其他几款那么让人兴奋。有时候我会想，天啊，好想再尝尝可可泡芙的感觉，因为那充满怀旧气息。我小时候很喜欢吃脆谷乐，很久没吃了，想再试试。

I can do Honey Nut Cheerios, but it's not as exciting as the other ones. Sometimes I'm like, God, I want to vibe with Cocoa Puffs again and just see what it's like because it's nostalgic. I used to like tricks as a kid. Haven't had tricks in a long time. I would try that again.

糖霜玉米片，那感觉真对味。

Frosted Flakes, that's a vibe.

人们会问，你一边吃麦片一边看什么节目？你现在追哪些剧？

And people ask, what are you watching while you're like, what are your shows right now?

天啊，我看的剧可没什么特别的。这周末我看的是《皮威·赫尔曼》纪录片。太他妈难过了。我们当年对他太不公平了，所有人都该感到羞愧。就这样。

Gosh, I don't have I'm exciting with the shows I watch. So what I did watch this weekend was the Pee wee Herman documentary. So fucking sad. We treated him so unfairly and all of us shame to us all. That's that.

关于奥萨马·本·拉登的纪录片，顶级水准，太棒了。我一直在向所有人推荐它。真的很棒，我可能会再看第二遍。

The Osama Bin Laden documentary, top tier, amazing. I've been promoting it to everyone. It's great. I might watch it a second time. It's great.

以上就是我推荐的纪录片。金刚刚告诉我一部，我想说那是一部撕心裂肺的纪录片，我很想看。至于剧集，我今晚可能会开始看《爱情岛》，因为孩子们应该不在身边。其实《爱情岛》不是我的菜。

So those are my documentaries. Kim just told me about, I want to say it's torn of a documentary. I want to see that. And then for shows, I'm gonna start Love Island maybe tonight because I should be kid free. Love Island isn't really my jam.

上一季因为金的推荐我看了，当时我们去了印度。我有大约二十小时的飞行时间，就看了《爱情岛》。但我没意识到所有这些竞赛其实毫无意义，我觉得得看直播才行。

I got into last season because of Kim, and we went to India. So I had like a twenty hour flight. Got into Love Island. I didn't realize that all these competitions are for nothing though. Like, I think I have to watch it live.

我原以为是他们互相投票淘汰对方。现在看来我的理解完全错了。所以我会试着再看《爱情岛》，金和肯德尔超爱这节目。我也喜欢布拉沃频道的节目。

I thought they voted each other out. I just thought I think I thought something different. So I'm going to try to watch Love Island again. Kim and Kendall love it. I love Bravo shows.

我爱看《家庭主妇》，虽然有时候她们吵架太夸张，但我还是坚持看，因为确实好看。特鲁总取笑我这点。我还喜欢看烹饪节目，尤其是《儿童烘焙大赛》《小小顶级厨师》这类。

I like Housewives. Some of them are just too much fighting sometimes, but I'm trying to stick with some of them because it's good TV. But I love True makes fun of me. I love watching cooking shows. I love watching especially like kids baking championship, top chef junior.

这些节目让人平静。晚上我就看这些，不想看任何让人紧张的内容。我需要放松入睡，也会看怀旧老剧，比如我爸爸最爱的《宋飞正传》，还有《老友记》《欲望都市》这类轻松剧集。

They're so calming. So at night I watch those. At night, I don't want to watch anything that is stressing me out. I need to chill and go to sleep and I will watch nostalgic things. Like I love Seinfeld because it was my dad's favorite show, Friends, those types of things, Sex and the City, easy.

你知道剧情走向，可以安心入睡，这些剧让我感觉很好。今天还有很多问题没来得及回答，感觉我能聊上几个小时。所以我打算再办一次问答活动，因为连手头的卡片问题都没回答完。发现大家提的问题都很有趣，这比我预想的自在多了——本来还担心怎么自言自语这么久呢。

You know what you're getting, and I can fall asleep and I love them and I feel good. So you guys, I have so many questions that I didn't even get to today, and I feel like I can do this for hours. So I imagine I will do an ask me anything again because I didn't even get to a handful of my cards. And I realized that you guys have tons of very interesting questions for me, which I love. And this didn't feel as weird as I thought it was going to feel because I was like, how am I going to talk to myself for this long?

这其实并不奇怪。所以我打算再次进行一个‘问我任何问题’的环节。希望你们喜欢这期单人节目，因为接下来还会有更多。感谢大家今天和我聊天并提交问题。对于任何我遗漏的问题，我会尽快回答。

It wasn't that strange. So I'm going to do an ask me anything again. And hopefully you guys enjoyed this solo episode because there's gonna be a few more. Thank you guys for chatting with me today and submitting your questions. And if for anyone that I missed, I will get to those questions very soon.