克洛伊在仙境 feat. 特里斯坦·汤普森

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And, honestly, doesn't it just show how many more options there are when it comes to zero point foods?

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Like, that was a lot of snacks.

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Restrictions apply, the offer ends 05/31/2026.

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现在我倒真想吃点零食了。

And now I kinda want a snack.

那在这个过程中，你爸爸在哪儿呢？

And where is your dad in all of this?

我小时候，我爸是在家的。

My dad growing up, he was around.

他是个建筑工人。

He was a construction worker.

所以他每天早上六点就起床，去工地干活。

So he'd be up at 06:00, you know, doing construction work.

后来他转行开卡车了。

And then he pivoted to doing truck driving.

我还经常跟人说起，有一次我爸爸从加拿大的多伦多开车到佛罗里达的迈阿密，不到二十四小时就到了。

And, you know, I still tell people, I remember my dad one time, he drove from Toronto, Canada to Miami, Florida in less than twenty four hours.

这确实挺厉害的。

So that was pretty impressive.

不过我也得说，他真的很能吃苦，我很佩服他。

But I think also like I give him a lot of credit too because he was a hard worker.

我只是觉得，我从小在一个充满勤劳又善良的人的家里长大。

I just, I think I just grew up in a house with just hardworking individuals and great human beings.

也许有些人误解了，当然，我们谁都不是完美的。

Maybe some of them misunderstood and maybe, you know, we're not all perfect.

我的成长环境能更好吗？

Could my upbringing be better?

当然可以。

Yes.

我是不是希望父母的关系能更好一些？

Do I wish my parents had a better dynamic?

非常希望。

Totally.

我是不是希望我爸能多参与一点，或者对我妈更好一点？

Do I wish my dad was maybe more involved or maybe better to my mom?

非常希望。

Totally.

但你知道，生活就是这样，对吧？

But, you know, that's life, right?

没有什么是完美的。

Nothing can be perfect.

关键在于下一代该怎么做得更好。

And it's just about how can the kids, the next generation be better.

说到阿玛瑞，其实不光是我侄子侄女们，连我自己的孩子，我都特别庆幸我们能有阿玛瑞，原因有很多。

When it comes to Amari, something that even actually for all of my nieces and nephews, including my own kids, I love that we have Amari for so many reasons.

你妈妈在这儿的时候，我们当然见过阿玛瑞，但机会特别少。

When your mom was here, obviously, we saw Amari, but it would be so seldomly.

尤其是那些表兄弟姐妹，不是每个人都经常能见到他。

Especially the cousins, not all of them got to see him frequently.

现在阿玛瑞全天都在我们身边，我特别开心，孩子们能有机会接触像他这样特别的人。我觉得他们也能私下问很多问题，以前可能不知道该怎么表现，或者像在特鲁的生日派对上，阿玛瑞也在，有个小女孩走过来问我：他怎么不说话？

Now that we have Amari full time, I'm so happy that they get to be exposed to someone as special as Amari is, and I feel like they get to ask all those questions privately that maybe they wouldn't either know how to act or like, we were at True's birthday party, and Amari was there, and a little girl came up to me and said, why isn't he talking?

我就说：哦，他不会说话。

And I said, oh, he can't talk.

她才四岁。

And she's, like, four.

对。

Mhmm.

她问我，是不是乌苏拉拿走了他的声音？

And she goes, did Ursula take his voice?

我记得听过这种说法。

I remember hearing that.

是的。

Yeah.

我就问，乌苏拉是谁？

And I said, who's Ursula?

我当时就想，你在说啥呀？

Like, I'm like, what are you talking about?

她说，就是爱丽儿啊。

She's like, like, Ariel.

我当时就说，天哪。

And I was like, oh my gosh.

真是太可爱了。

That is the cutest.

孩子能把这些事联系起来，我觉得特别纯真，特别单纯。

Like, the way that child connected the dots, I thought it was so innocent, so pure.

我一点都不介意。

I'm not offended.

我很高兴有人会问，甚至对阿玛莉感兴趣。

I love that people ask and even are curious about Amari.

不过这些话题，要是放在现实里，或者问陌生人，可能有人会觉得不舒服。

But those questions, I think, if you're in the real world or to a stranger, someone might be offended.

我很喜欢孩子们能接触到这些内容。

Like, I love the exposure the kids get.

我希望他们通过接触阿玛莉，能学到同理心和理解。

I love, hopefully, the empathy and understanding that they get to take away from being around Amari.

失去妈妈之后，你当父母的方式有没有什么改变？

Losing your mom, has it made you show up as a parent in a different way?

你觉得，如果妈妈还在，你会是个不一样的父母吗？

Like, do you think if your mom was here, do you think you would be a different type of parent?

我觉得我不会变成不一样的父母。

I don't think I'd be a different parent.

我觉得失去妈妈让我明白了一件事。

I think losing my mom made me realize that I think this is the first thing.

你永远不会体会到，失去母亲时那种深入骨髓的悲伤。

I think you're never going to cry or be as sad as the way you're going to feel when you lose lose a mother.

我记得到时候在迈阿密有个理发师给过我一句话，说来也巧，妈妈走后，那句话总在我脑子里回响：你没失去妈妈之前，永远不会知道什么叫真正的哭。

And I remember getting that advice from a barber in Miami one time, crazy enough, when my mom did pass, I remember his voice replaying in my brain saying, you're never going to cry until your mom passes away.

但对我来说，我意识到，我这一生都在拼命想让她骄傲、让她开心。

But I think for me, I realized that, you know, I think I dedicated my life so much to just make her proud and make her happy.

可失去她之后，我才明白，总有一天你得转个弯，先让自己开心起来。

And, you know, losing her, I realized that at some point in time we got to pivot and like, you got to make yourself happy first.

对吧？

Right?

你得从内心真正爱自己。

Like you got to love yourself from within.

在我们这个世界上，常常把精力花在不那么重要的事情上，却忘了这一切其实要从自己开始。

And I think sometimes in our world we spend so much time giving energy to things that don't really matter and forgetting like it starts with us.

如果连我自己都帮不了，我又怎么帮得了你呢？

Like I can't help you if I can't help myself.

如果连我自己都帮不了，我又怎么帮得了我的孩子呢？

I can't help my kids if I can't help myself.

所以我觉得，这一切最重要的领悟就是学会爱自己，陪伴自己，让自己开心。

So I think that's the biggest takeaway from all this is like learning to love myself and just being there for myself and making myself happy.

但在那段哀伤的日子里，我反而把更多心思放在了孩子身上，因为那是我唯一确定、毫无条件的爱。

But I'll say during that grieving process, I think I poured more into my kids because that was the one area where I knew I had like that love that was just Unconditional.

毫无条件的。

Unconditional.

你就像是超人、超级英雄一样。

It was just more like you were just like, you're the superman, you're the superhero.

就算你心情不好，孩子还是会想跳蹦床、骑自行车，或者吃冰淇淋。

And even if you're going through a bad, even if you're having a bad day, the kids will want to go on a trampoline or go bike riding, or get ice cream, like

孩子真的很有疗愈力，因为他们纯真无邪。

Well, children are very healing because they are so innocent and pure.

看着他们，你会突然觉得人生有了新的视角，尤其是在经历失去的时候。

And you also look at them, and then you it just puts life into perspective, especially during a loss.

是的。

Mhmm.

我明白。

So I understand that.

对。

Yeah.

你就会不自觉地把更多精力放在他们身上。

It's just like you just pour into them more.

我总是跟别人说，是他们帮我从那段黑暗里走出来的。

And I always tell people they they helped me get out of that dark hole.

孩子们，不只是我们共同的孩子和我大儿子，还包括那些表兄弟姐妹、侄子侄女们。

The kids, think not just our the children we share and my oldest, but also like, you know, the cousins, you know, nieces and nephews that I have.

我觉得这群充满创意和智慧的小家伙，真的给了我很多力量。

I think that whole that whole little young bunch of of of brilliant young creative minds helped me a lot.

确实如此。

They do.

人们总好奇我为什么老想跟孩子待在一起。

And, I mean, people always wonder why I wanna be with the kids all the time.

我反问他们，为什么不呢？

I'm like, why would I not?

他们是最好的。

They're the best.

True长得真像你妈妈。

And True looks so much like your mom.

没有。

No.

她确实像。

She does.

所以每次我看到True，就会想起学校以前在学年最后一天举办的幼儿园演出，孩子们总会在那天唱最后一首歌。

And that's why when I look at True, I remember remember at the school they used to do, like, the kindergarten recitals and used to sing at the end, like, last day of school.

是的。

Yeah.

有一次我看着她，真的，完完全全就像看到了我妈妈的脸。

Like, remember just looking at her one time and just, like, kid you not, just, like, seeing my mom's face.

我记得当时差点掉下眼泪，因为她们实在太像了，无论是感受力、同理心，还是那颗纯粹的心，简直像一面水晶球。

And I remember, like, shedding a tear just because it's like they resemble each other so much And they have so many like their their their characteristics in terms of like being able to feel and being empathetic and just being just like their heart is so like just it's just like a crystal ball.

那种纯净和美好，真的让人忍不住想好好爱她们。

It's just so pure and amazing and you just cannot just love on them.

关于共同抚养，你当初有想到我们会这样相处吗？

Like for co parenting, did you expect our co parenting to go the way that it goes?

我当初对和你共同抚养孩子有什么期待吗？

What was my expectations going into co parenting with you?

我想是吧。

I guess.

对。

Yeah.

你从小成长的家庭里，共同抚养本来就是日常生活的一部分。

The fact that you were brought up in a household where co parenting was part of your guys' everyday life.

我从来没想过这事儿能不能成。

I think I never ever crossed my mind whether or not it was going to be able to work.

我觉得我本来就没抱太大希望。

I think it was going to be more so.

我们都到了一个成熟的阶段，不会因为感情没走到一起、没达到我们理想中的样子，就情绪上闹别扭，你也懂的。

We come to a place of maturity where emotionally we don't get frustrated because of maybe our relationship not working or being where we're at, you know, where we would probably want to be, or maybe should have been in our personal relationship.

可能就这一点，你会忍不住想：这事儿到底能搞成什么样？

That was probably only the one area where you wonder like, how's this going to look?

但我一直觉得这会成功，因为你早就习惯了，这对你来说一点都不陌生。

But I always knew it would work because you grew, it's not foreign to you.

当然对我是新鲜事，但我觉得吧，我挺能适应的，而你这个人特别随和。

Obviously it's new for me, but I feel like, you know, I'm a chameleon, and you're such a, you know, chill person.

所以我从来不用担心共同抚养的问题，因为你一直都在这样的环境里。

So I I was never worried about the co parenting part, because I think it's you know, you're around it.

我老在想，为什么特里斯坦总在？

I always am like, why is Tristan around?

总有人问这个问题，我觉得特别荒谬，因为特里斯坦是我孩子的爸爸，只要你想参与孩子的生活，他就会一直在这里。

Like, that's always a question I see, which I find so insane because I'm like, well, Tristan is the father of my kids, and Tristan will be around as long as, you know, you want you wanna be around, and you wanna be present in your kids' lives.

如果不用分开办两场生日派对，我根本不想那样做。

If I don't have to do two separate birthday parties into this, I don't want to.

这根本不该是这样。

That's not the way it should be.

而且，我觉得很多人忘了这一点。

So and also, I do think people forget.

我们分手已经五年了。

Five years have gone by since we've broken up.

在这五年里，你我各自经历了很多私密而沉重的事。

You and I have dealt with a lot of really personal things during those five years.

你失去了母亲。

You've had the loss of your mother.

我觉得，失去任何一个父母，都是人生中最深刻、最痛苦的经历。

I think the loss of any parent is the most it's the most transformative and horrible experience to ever go through.

还有照顾你哥哥的事。

Also, the care of your brother.

这绝对是责任最重大的事之一。

That's, like, one of the most serious responsibilities.

你经历这些的时候，我和你在一起，你当时大概只是觉得……我不知道你心里怎么想的。

And having to go through that, I think that when you and I were together, you probably obviously, you just thought, oh, I don't know what you thought.

我现在就说说我猜你当时是怎么想的。

I'm gonna say what I think you thought.

我们在一起的时候，你心里可能想，这挺好，但我还有别的事要处理。

When you and I were together, it's like, oh, this is great, but I got this.

你身边还有个女孩呢。

This girl's here.

你想怎么做都行。

You can do whatever you want.

我觉得，那次我选择留下、你真正觉得被背叛之后，你潜意识里一定觉得：哦，她还会再回来的。

I think after the true cheating when I stayed, I'm sure that let you even subconsciously think, oh, I can do this again.

她会一次又一次地回来。

She'll stay again and again.

谁说得准呢？

Who knows?

我现在就是把你可能想的说出来。

I'm giving you what I'm thinking.

我们真正分手后，有段时间你我根本没怎么说话。

Then when you and I really broke up, you and I definitely weren't talking for a little bit.

但自从你妈妈去世，加上这些事之后，我觉得你开始用不一样的眼光看我了。

But then with the loss of your mother and all these things, I think you started to see me in a different light.

你开始意识到，哇，她真的一直在我身边。

You started to see me and like, wow, she's really there for me.

她明明没必要这么做，却还是陪在我身边。

And she's there for me when she doesn't have to be.

我们开始深入交流一些严肃的话题，比如悲伤和死亡，现在还要商量怎么照顾阿玛莉，该怎么配合，继续共同抚养孩子。

And we started to connect on very serious matters, whether it be, you know, grief and death, or now we have to communicate for the care of Amari, and how do we do so, and still co parent.

我觉得这些经历让你重新认识了我，我们也成了特别要好的朋友。

And I think it just made you see me in a different light, and we became really good friends.

现在我们之间是纯粹的朋友式互相支持。

And now we lean on each other in a friendship way.

你是个很棒的父亲。

You're a great dad.

我很欣赏你愿意花这么多时间陪孩子。

I love how much time you want to spend with your kids.

我从不希望剥夺孩子们对你的爱，毕竟他们真的很爱你。

I never want to take that away from my children because they, of course, love you.

你是他们的爸爸。

You're their father.

我觉得我们之间慢慢建立起了一种新的尊重，现在的相处方式跟谈恋爱那会儿完全不一样了。

And I think you and I have grown to have this different level of respect, and we just have a totally different relationship than we did when we were dating.

我听说你上了个播客，说为了克洛伊你什么都愿意做。

Like, I saw you did a podcast, and you were like, I would do anything for Khloey.

结果底下好多评论说：你什么都愿意做，就是不愿意忠于伴侣。

And I saw a lot of the comments were like, oh, you would do anything but be faithful.

有一条就是这么说的。

That was one of them.

这话让我挺不舒服的，没错，你确实做过蠢事，但那都是很多年前的事了。

That bothered me because, yes, you've done dumb shit, but also it was so many years ago.

我并不是在替你开脱。

I'm not excusing it.

我是说，我们现在完全进入了一个不同的阶段。

I'm saying we're in a totally different phase now.

当你说到你愿意为我做任何事的时候，我想你指的是你现在所了解的这个人。

And I think when you said that comment that you would do anything for me, you mean, like, the person that you know now.

就是一种完全不同的尊重层次。

Like, there's just a different level of respect.

一种更成熟的尊重，而且这种尊重没有亲密关系的干扰，我觉得这才是更深的层面——真正让我们走在一起的，是彼此身上那些坚实可靠的东西。

I think a much more mature level of respect, and it's without intimacy, which I think is also a much deeper level because what's keeping us here is true solid qualities about one another.

这里没有亲密关系来干扰或影响我们的判断。

There's no intimacy distracting or tainting our thought process here.

而且我们还住在同一个社区。

We also live in the same community.

有这么多理由，你为什么不能在身边呢？

There's so many things that why shouldn't you be around?

我觉得只要你把自己的私事处理好，对我来说，能多陪你一起陪孩子，当然是再好不过了。

I think as long as you keep your own personal issues out of it, the for me, the more the merrier when it comes to our kids.

是的。

Yeah.

不是。

No.

我觉得，这档播客最打动人的地方，就是我们向大家展示了共同抚养孩子是完全可以做好的。

I think, I think this was the most beautiful thing about this podcast that we're doing is that we're we are showing people that co parenting can work.

我觉得别人问你这个问题，是因为其他人——或许他们自己和前任之间，根本就谈不上尊重。

And I think the reason why people ask you that question is because other people or maybe themselves, them and whoever their older ex significant other is there's no sign of respect.

我觉得一切的基础都是尊重。

I think it starts with respect.

我们俩彼此尊重，这才是核心。

I think the fact that we both respect each other that's the pillar.

如果你不尊重对方，就不可能建立起良好的共同抚养关系。

You can't have a good co parental relationship if you don't respect the other person.

你知道，很多人分手后，不管是不是有孩子，往往都会充满不尊重。

You know when people break up and whether you have a baby mom or baby daddy there's a lot of there's a lot of disrespect that happens.

我觉得问题在于，有人可能公开约会，别人觉得这太早了，或者其中一方做了特别不尊重人的事。

I think it's whether it's someone is, you know, maybe publicly dating where people think it's too early or maybe one might do something very disrespectful.

比如说，我们在社交媒体上随便编排对方，对吧？

Maybe like we're just making it up, like talk on social media bad about someone, right?

所有这些归根结底都是不尊重的问题。

Like it all stems from like disrespect.

现在更多人已经习惯了父母双方互相不尊重，反而很少有人去学习如何真正地尊重和关爱对方，从这点做起。

And I think more people are used to co parents being disrespectful than actually learning to just be respectful and loving and starting from there.

我觉得那些人这么说，是因为他们很少见到这样的例子。

I think so the people that say that is because they don't see that too often.

但我也得说实话，你和我其实也会有不尊重对方的时候。

But I also think, like, just to keep it real, you and I can be disrespectful.

是的。

Yeah.

但我们把那些事都留在私下解决。

We I keep that private.

但我觉得，人本能地就想让他赶紧走人

But I think because it's natural to be like, get the fuck out

或者类似的做法。

or whatever.

但这其实只是愤怒在作祟。

But that's that's that's that's just anger.

对吧？

Right?

我觉得尊重是更深层的东西。

I think respect is, like, deeper level.

但所有这些确实都是这样。

But all yes.

我听到的都是，你为啥不把同样的态度给特里斯坦呢？

What I hear is people will be like, why don't you give that same energy to Tristan?

你听好了。

Listen.

我已经把所有精力都给了你，但我不会在公共平台上这么做，因为总有一天我的孩子会看到。

I've given you all the energy, but I'm not gonna do it on a public platform because my kids will see that one day.

你是唯一一个和我有孩子的人。

You're the only person I have kids with.

所以我完全可以对其他人公开释放所有情绪。

So I can give every other person public energy all I want.

我不会对你这么做，因为为了孩子，我的思维方式就是这样。

I'm not gonna give it to you because that's just not how my brain works for the sake of my kids.

如果我们没有孩子，情况会完全不同。

If we didn't have kids, it would be a different story.

但我是

But I

如果我们没有孩子，我现在也不会跟你混在一起。

also wouldn't be hanging out with you now if we didn't have kids.

那只会是另一种局面。

It would just be a different situation.

我不明白，为什么别人就看不到这个角度呢。

And so I don't know why people can't see it from that perspective.

他们看到的，就只有这些罢了。

I mean, that's all they see.

你们都知道，我对吃的东西特别讲究，尤其是蛋白质这块。

You guys know how intentional I am about what I eat, especially when it comes to protein.

当我在goodranchers.com的朋友告诉我，超市里超过85%的草饲牛肉都是进口的，我简直震惊了——我们都以为自己买的是本地货。

So when my friends at goodranchers.com informed me that over 85% of grass fed beef in stores is imported, I was shocked because I think a lot of us assume we are buying local.

我们以为自己在支持美国农场，以为标签上写的都是真的，可事实根本不是这样。

We assume we're supporting American farms and that the labels mean what they imply, But that's just not the case.

正因如此，GoodRanchers才让我特别在意。

And that's what made GoodRanchers stand out to me.

这家公司是由一对夫妻创办的，他们只是想给孩子吃上更好的食物。

This company was started by a husband and a wife who just wanted better food for their own kids.

意识到美国的食品体系有多混乱后，他们决定自己动手来改变它。

After realizing how broken the American food system is, they decided to fix it themselves.

GoodRanchers 的所有肉类都来自美国本地的农场和牧场，直接配送到你家，让你轻松获得高品质的美国肉类。

At Goodranchers, they source all their meat from local farms and ranches in America, and then they deliver it right to your door, making it easier than ever to get access to high quality American meat.

我个人特别喜欢他们的鸡肉和野生捕捞的海鲜。

I personally love their chicken and wild caught seafood.

品质真的没得说。

The quality is incredible.

没有任何激素，也不用抗生素。

No added hormones, no antibiotics.

所有产品都来自负责任的源头。

Everything is responsibly sourced.

我自己就是 GoodRanchers 的订阅用户，管理订单特别方便。

I'm actually a GoodRanchers subscriber myself, and I love how easy it is to manage my orders.

生活一忙或者出门旅行，点几下就能暂停或调整配送时间。

When life gets busy or I'm traveling, I can pause or move my order in just a few clicks.

整个流程简单又灵活，完全按你的日程来安排。

It's simple, flexible, and actually built around your schedule.

想买到那种超市里已经很难找到的高品质纯美式肉类，现在就去 goodranchers.com 了解一下吧。

To get the kind of high quality, 100% American meat you can't just find in the grocery store anymore, visit goodranchers.com today.

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This podcast is sponsored by Active Skin Repair, a skin health brand that helps your skin heal using natural, nontoxic, medical grade ingredients.

我觉得生活其实就是不断经历各种小皮肤问题的循环。

I feel like life is basically just a constant cycle of little skin irritations.

莫名其妙的擦伤、晒伤、运动后的皮肤刺激、痘痘、干燥脱皮，总有一款适合你。

A random scrape, too much sun, post workout irritations, breakouts, dry patches.

问题总是不断，所以我最近一直备着 Active Skin Repair。

Something is always happening, which is why I've been keeping Active Skin Repair around lately.

Active Skin Repair 的特别之处在于，它用的是医院里也在用的独家配方。

What makes Active Skin Repair different is that it uses the same proprietary formulation trusted in hospitals.

核心成分是一种叫次氯酸的分子。

The key ingredient is a molecule called hypochlorous acid.

当它接触到皮肤时，会模拟人体自身的免疫反应，清洁伤口、舒缓刺激、减轻炎症，同时促进愈合。

And when applied to the skin, it works by mimicking the natural immune response to cleanse, soothe irritation, reduce inflammation, and support healing.

我特别喜欢的是，它能应对这么多不同的问题。

And what I like is that it works for so many different things.

不管是割伤、擦伤、烫伤、晒伤、痘痘、湿疹、玫瑰痤疮，还是各种皮肤发红发痒，只要是你日常遇到的皮肤小状况，它都能温和又有效地帮你解决。

Cuts, scrapes, burns, sunburns, acne, eczema, rosacea, irritation, basically all those everyday skin situations where you just want something gentle and effective.

对我来说，这已经成了我随身必备的产品之一。

For me, this has become one of those products I always want nearby.

用起来方便，成分安全，不刺不辣，完全不用纠结该不该用。

It's easy, nontoxic, doesn't sting or feel harsh, and I don't have to overthink using it.

不管皮肤是发痒、疲劳，还是特别敏感，我第一个想到的就是它。

Whether my skin feels irritated, overworked, or just reactive, it's one of the first things I reach for.

已经有五十多万用户满意使用，成千上万条五星评价，显然不止我一个人这么觉得。

And with over 500,000 happy customers and thousands of five star reviews, clearly, I'm not the only one.

想了解更多，还能享受八折优惠，请访问 activeskinrepair.com，使用优惠码 Khloey。

To learn more and get 20% off your order, visit activeskinrepair.com and use code Khloey.

再次提醒，网址是 activeskinrepair.com，优惠码是 Khloey。

Again, that's activeskinrepair.com and code Khloey.

你也可以在亚马逊和当地的CVS药店买到Active Skin Repair。

You can also find Active Skin Repair on Amazon and at your local CVS.

说实话，听我说，朋友们。

The reality is, like, listen, guys.

五年前的我们，和现在的我们已经完全不同了。

Like, the person we were the person we were five years ago is totally different now.

我们经历了生活中各种真事，但也成长了。

We've had real life shit happen to us, but we've grown.

我觉得很多人太纠结于过去了。

And I think people worry about too much of the past.

我说的‘很多人’，不是指我们，我觉得我们之间已经聊过这些了，当然，我们确实做过一些不那么光彩的事。

Like, when I mean like people, not us, I think like we've, I've had our conversations, you know, of course we've done things we're not proud of.

我本人也做过不少不值得骄傲的事，这事儿那事儿的。

I've done things I'm not proud of anyways, this, and the third.

但这并不意味着我们要否定过去。

And it doesn't mean we take it away.

你呢？

You?

对。

Yes.

我。

Me.

但我确实。

But I yeah.

我只是想说，有时候你跟我说过一些非常不尊重的话。

But I'm just saying there's times where you might have said something to me that was very disrespectful.

我为那些话感到骄傲。

I'm proud of all of those things I've said to you.

你什么意思？

What do mean?

我跟你说过的最难听、最不尊重人的话，我一点都不后悔。

The most dirty and disrespectful things I've said, I do not take back.

好吧。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

但我说过，我们都有可能做过让你不舒服的事。

But like I said, we've all done things that might have accept you

谢谢你，我很难过。

Thank upset

另一方。

the other side.

是的。

Yep.

我接受这个事实。

I'm fine with it.

这样也好。

And that's fine.

对。

Mhmm.

你有权利感受你现在的感受，我也一样，有权利按我的方式去感受。

You're allowed to feel the way you feel, and I can feel the way I feel.

但现在最重要的是，我们每天都在成长。

But the most important thing now is that we are evolving each and every day.

那些总揪着过去不放的人，就让他们继续那样吧。

And the ones that want to harp on the past, that's for them to keep doing that.

这真可惜，因为他们会错过我们之间这场关于成长的精彩对话。

And that's a shame because they're gonna miss out on a great podcast between us in terms of evolution.

什么？

What?

我不太明白你最后一句说的是什么。

I don't know what that last sentence is.

我想说的是，一开始的时候，还有就是，很多人总问，你是怎么走到这一步的？

I will say is, the beginning, and like for anyone that because people always say, how do you get to that point?

这个问题我经常被人问到。

That's a question I get.

说实话，要达到真正原谅的境界并不容易。

So I will say it's not easy to get to that point of, like, real forgiveness.

对我而言，第一步是得有一个人愿意站出来，干脆说：算了。

I would say, number one for me, it's I do think it takes one person to just sort of, like, be the one that's like, you know what?

我不打算再为这事烦心了。

I'm not gonna let this bother me.

有些事，该放下的就得放下。

Like, you have to let things go.

要学会挑重要的事较真。

Pick and choose your battles.

要是事事都斤斤计较，那太容易陷入小气了。

Cause it's really easy to just be petty and nitpick every little thing.

但总得有一个人先说：算了，没关系。

But one person does have to be the one that's like, it's okay.

咱们换个话题吧。

Let's move on.

咱们别纠结这个了。

Let's work past this.

我一直在做心理咨询，这对我帮助特别大。

I've been going to therapy, and that helped a lot for me, I think.

而且在咨询的过程中，我发现了一件事——你可能会笑我，但我其实情绪上挺成熟的。

And also, I like, I've discovered during my therapy journey that I have very you're gonna laugh at me, but I'm very, like, emotionally mature.

我说这个，知道你可能会笑我。

And by saying that, know you're gonna laugh at me.

我情绪上真的很成熟，这意味着这既是天赋也是负担，但至少当我看到别人做错事时，我总能理解他们为什么会那样做。

Like, I'm very emotionally mature, which means like, it is a gift and a curse, but it means that even when you do something wrong, I have so much empathy for why you acted a certain way.

我不是在替他们开脱，也不是在说他们没错。

Not saying I'm excusing it, not saying I'm condoning it.

我只是说，我能明白。

It's just saying I can understand.

哦，明白了。

Oh, okay.

你现在是成年人了。

You're an adult now.

这跟你小时候的经历有关，跟那时别人怎么对待你有关系。

This is stemming from something to do when you were a child, how you were treated at some point.

这不怪我。

This is not something on me.

我不该承受这些。

I'm not deserving of this.

我同意。

Agreed.

我同意。

Agreed.

为你高兴。

Good for you.

我特别欣赏你的一点，就是你特别信任我，或者尊重我，宝贝。

What I do appreciate about you is how much you, I would say, either trust me or respect me, baby.

在育儿这件事上，更是如此。

It's both when it comes to parenting.

不管是选学校、选医生，还是别的事，你都信得过我，知道我这辈子最在乎的就是他们的安全和保护。

If I'm picking a school or a doctor or this, you trust me enough knowing that always my first goal in life is for their protection and their safety.

你总是这么放心地把这事交给我，真的很好。

And you're you're always so good at, like, trusting me with that.

这省去了太多不必要的摩擦。

That eliminates so much tension.

因为我知道，很多父母、共同抚养的父母，明明没那个必要，却总爱挑刺。

Because I do know a lot of parents, co parents, are nitpicky just for the sake of being nitpicky.

我觉得他们一半时候挑刺，其实是因为彼此根本看不顺眼。

I think half the time they nitpick is because they actually, like, don't like each other.

你知道的，当你不喜欢一个人，就会找各种理由生气，找各种借口吵架，就为了制造麻烦。

You know, when you you know you don't like someone, you'll find any reason to be upset with them or any reason just to be combative just to, like, just to, like, cause a shit storm.

我觉得我们育儿方面没这问题，原因有很多。

So I think the reason why we don't have that issue parenting is a bunch of things.

你爸带大你们的方式，和我被养大的方式，都很传统，老派，我觉得我们在这一点上特别一致。

I think the way your father raised you guys and the way I was raised was very a throwback old school way and old school mentality, which I think we're on the same line with that.

所以这算是我们能相处融洽的一个原因。

So that's one reason why I think it works for us.

我常跟别人说，我不用担心克萝在育儿上会出问题，因为我们小时候的成长环境太像了。

I always tell people, I don't have to worry about Khlo when it comes to parenting our children because the way we were brought was very similar.

亚美尼亚家庭和牙买加家庭，虽然背景不同，但有些传统和价值观都保留了下来，影响了我们的育儿方式。

Know, Armenian household, Jamaican household, to some traditions and values that were there that have stuck with our parenting skills.

我觉得，别让社会风气左右你当父母的方式。

I think, you don't let society dictate how you parent.

像我们这种名人或者有地位的人，有时候容易跟风，随大流，别人怎么带孩子，自己也照搬。

And for someone, you know, for us as like celebrities or people of status, sometimes others that are in our position get kind of fall into this kind of like sheep mentality and go with the wave.

但我觉得，我们更像牧羊人，懂得怎么带好自己的家。

And I think we're just more shepherds in how we like to run our house.

我不是说我们家的管法就是对的，但确实适合我们。

Not saying the way we run our house is the right way, but it works for us.

这才是最重要的。

And that's all that really matters.

最近两个孩子有没有做过什么有趣的事，让你笑出来？

What is something funny that either of the kids have done to make you laugh recently?

我

I

特蕾姆叫你‘克洛伊’或者‘可可阿姨’的时候，我特别喜欢。

mean, I love when Tatum calls you like Khloey or like auntie Coco.

特蕾姆就是故意逗你玩。

Like Tatum, like purposely trolls you.

是啊。

Yeah.

而且这简直就像希

And it's almost like He

就是这样。

does.

就像我、罗布，还有泰勒一样。

It's like me, Rob, and like Taylor.

我们就是喜欢老逗你玩。

We're just like like to troll you all the time.

他可能根本不懂日出月落这些事。

He must be like, I don't know what the sun rising, mooning.

他说不定是个双鱼座之类的。

He might be like a Pisces in one of those things.

我对这些不太懂。

I don't know much about that stuff.

不过，我觉得特蕾姆逗你的时候特别有意思。

But, yeah, I think I love when Tatum trolls you.

太好了。

Great.

这特别好笑，你也知道。

It's very funny and you know that.

但说实话，他应该没经历过你的童年。

But also it's like, I think he has a obviously wasn't around for your childhood.

不过你们俩之间有很多相似之处。

But I think there's a lot of you and him.

所以你总说这是Rob，但其实你和Rob就像一对双胞胎。

So I think you like to say it's Rob, but I think but, like, you and Rob are like twins.

这根本就是你自己的风格。

So it's, like, really like you.

哦，你们可不算双胞胎。

Oh, you're not like twins.

你们俩简直就是双胞胎。

You guys are like twins.

你们俩的相似点太多了。

You guys have a lot of similarities.

你们就是，你知道的，稍微有点

Just you guys just, you know, do a little

我们很像。

We're similar.

特别像。

Very similar.

但又很不一样。

But very different.

非常相似。

Very similar.

要是你问原来的克里斯，她会说。

If you ask OG Chris, she will say.

天哪。

Oh gosh.

你的孩子身上有哪些特质让你想到自己？

What qualities do your kids have that remind you of you?

好的。

Okay.

True身上最像你的地方，就是她那颗善良的心，总想着别人。她会把自己最后一颗果冻豆给那个饿了或者想吃点心的孩子。

With True, the quality that she has of yours is your heart and caring for other people and True's the type of person that will give her last jelly bean to a kid that maybe is hungry or wants to snack.

跟你真的很像。

Very similar to you.

True身上像我的地方呢，就是长得像我。

A quality that True has of mine is, know, she looks like me.

你看她腿也跟我一样长。

You know, she has long legs like me.

她数学特别好。

She's great at math.

数学好也跟我一样。

Great at math like me.

对。

Yeah.

这曾经是我的强项。

That was a strong suit of mine.

我从来就不喜欢读书。

I never never enjoyed reading.

那塔图姆呢？

And what about Tatum?

塔图姆，他就是那种精力充沛的人。

Tatum, he is his energy is Yeah.

他精力特别旺盛。

His energy, like high energy.

这其实挺合理的。

I mean, it makes sense.

我一看他，就明白为啥我能连续打四十八分钟，还不觉得累。

Like when I look at him, I'm like, no wonder I can rebound and play hard for forty eight minutes and not get tired.

这股劲儿是遗传的。

It's in him.

他身上总带着一股充沛的活力。

He's he's he's got that ball of energy.

但他也有特别温柔的一面，就想凑过来捧着你的脸亲一口。

But he has this sweet side where he just wants to grab your face and kiss you.

然后他就喊：妈妈，过来。

And he's like, mommy, come.

他就这么捧着你的脸不放。

And he just holds your face.

可刚亲完，他又说：好了，该去跑圈了。

And then after that, he's like, oh, time to go run around.

我特别欣赏你作为父亲的这一点，因为我自己也是这样，只是以前没意识到，我爸爸总是特别搞笑，会蹲下来陪我们玩。

Something that I do love and appreciate you as a father, because I'm like this too, and I didn't realize how much I should have realized because my dad was always really goofy and, like, got down and played with us.

他从来不会摆出一副大人架子，不跟我们亲近。

He was never too, like, grown to be with us.

我爸爸一直像个大孩子，而你对孩子们也是这样，我真的特别喜欢这一点。

My dad was always a big kid, and you are like that with the kids, and I I love that.

我觉得，不管给孩子们买多少东西，他们最想要的还是你放下身段陪他们玩。

Like, I think that's a great quality for anyone to have is you can buy your kids anything, but they really just want you to get down and play with them.

当你陪他们玩、跟他们疯闹、一起跳舞的时候，这些对他们来说意义非凡。

And when you play with them or when you're being silly and dancing with them, like, that means so much to them.

他们现在可能不懂，但长大以后一定会想起来，我们就是这样。

I know they might not see that now, but definitely when they're older, they will look back, because we do.

我会说，我爸以前在泳池里，干过好多傻事，还跳各种搞笑的舞。

And I'll be like, oh, my dad in the pool, and, like, the things he would do, and he would just do silly dances.

所以，作为爸爸，这一点我特别喜欢你，真的特别好，孩子们也特别爱。

And so that's one quality that I love as a father about you, and I think is really great, and they love it.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得就是这些回忆。

I think it's those memories.

对吧？

Right?

说实话，我从来没机会和我爸分享这些回忆。

I mean, I never got to share those memories with my dad.

可能是因为他总是加班，拼命养家吧。

Maybe it was because, you know, he was working long hours trying to provide for us.

我也不清楚具体是什么原因。

I don't know what the reason is.

也许他根本就没在身边。

Maybe he was just not around to not be around.

但对我来说，就像你说的，孩子什么都记得。

But for me, was just, you know, like you said, kids remember everything.

就连我，也记得那些和我爸相处时并不算美好的瞬间，但这些记忆一直跟着我。

Because even me, I remember like moments that are not the greatest that I experienced with my dad, but you always take it with you.

孩子从来不会忘记。

Kids never forget.

所以这很重要，尤其是当你正在失去妈妈的时候，更要把爱倾注给他们，这份爱永远不会停。

So it's important, but I think it's even more when you're losing my mom, being able to pour into them, it just doesn't stop.

对吧？

Right?

我不只是因为自己难过才这么投入他们。

It's not just because of me grieving I pour into them.

这是一直都在继续的事。

It's it's a continued thing.

我喜欢跟他们打打闹闹。

You know, I like to be able to joke around.

我年轻时想生孩子，就是这个原因。

That's the only reason I wanted to have kids at a young age.

因为我从来不希望变成那样的人。

Because I never wanted to be that

你年轻时想生孩子，是早就计划好的？

You wanting to have kids at a young age was planned?

嗯，

Well

我就随便问问。

I'm just asking.

我的意思是，我一直都想在年轻的时候要孩子。

I mean, I knew I always wanted have kids at a young age.

我的意思是，怎么

I don't I mean, how

你脸色都吓白了。

Your face looked terrified.

不是。

No.

我的意思是

I mean

我就只是随口一问。

It was just a question.

你听我说。

Listen.

我最在意的就是想在年轻的时候生孩子，不想等到孩子毕业时自己都成老头了。

The most important thing is that I wanna have my kids at a young age because I wanted not to be the old guy at graduation.

我想当个年轻的爸爸，时髦又懂孩子，能跟他们一起玩。

I wanted to be the young dad who was, like, hip, tapped in, like, be able play with my kids.

那真不是故意为难你的问题。

That wasn't like some gotcha question.

我当时不太确定。

I wasn't sure.

我真的不太确定。

I wasn't sure.

你参加生日派对或者家庭聚会的时候，会不会觉得不自在？

Do you ever feel uncomfortable at, like, the birthday parties or, like, the family events?

最近倒不会。

Not as of late.

我想说一点。

I would say this.

我觉得吧

I would say

她第一个生日确实糟透了。

Definitely her first birthday was horrible.

是啊。

Oh, yeah.

那个第一生日啊，

That first birthday was a

那真是惨不忍睹。

That was tragic.

就是个意外。

It was a Yeah.

你懂的，

It was a You know what?

当时涌进来太多情绪和能量了。

It was so much feelings and like energy behind it.

我的意思是，现实就是如此，你想想看。

I mean, like the reality is like, think about it.

即使在那段时间，我还在给你送花、给你写卡片。

Cause even during that time I was still like sending you flowers and writing you cards.

所以我当然想挽回我们之间的关系，但你也知道，在女儿的第一个生日上，情绪那么复杂，我依然爱你、关心你，难免会有很多情绪，有时候控制不住，事情就发生了。

So of course, like I was trying to like bring us back together, but obviously, you know, being at the first birthday of our daughter and having that emotion and still, you know, loving and caring about you, of course, there's gonna be a lot of emotions and sometimes when you're not able to control that shit happens.

我觉得现在太早了，因为我真希望当时能和家人一起，好好办个家庭聚会。

And I think it's early because I think it's like, damn, I wish I had my family together to do all this, like a family thing.

但随着时间推移，我越来越觉得，我们现在可能是有史以来最好的状态。

But as time progresses and I realize like, I think we are in the best place we've ever been.

我觉得现在的我们，彼此之间的联系和默契，甚至比以前在一起的时候还要好。

I think we're better now as, like, our dynamic like, our our our connectivity is better now than even when we were together.

我同意。

I agree.

你觉得谁是更严厉的那个家长？

Who do you think the stricter parent is?

我觉得是因为孩子跟你待的时间更多，所以你可能管得更严。

I think because the kids spend more time with you, I think you might be more strict.

但我这么做是有意的。

But I do that intentionally.

你确实得这样。

Well, you have to.

对吧？

Right?

我跟特里斯坦说过，因为他们整天跟我住，我不想让他一来，孩子就喊‘爸爸来了’。

I've said to Tristan, because they live with me full time, I don't want when Tristan comes around if he's the strict parent, and then them be like, dad's here.

好像大老板现身了。

Like The big bad boss is here.

他妈的，他妈的，他妈的。

Fuck fuck fuck.

他确实管得严，有时候他会插话，但我都会说：让我来管。

But he is strict, or he'll say something to me, but I say, let me discipline.

因为我也扮演那个特别有趣的角色，但我不希望他们觉得你也很轻松，毕竟你又不是天天在家。

Because I'm also the really fun parent, but I don't want them to see you're fun too, but you're not there twenty four seven.

所以我真不希望他们怕特里斯坦，而且他还特别高大。

And so I don't want them thinking like, oh, like, I'd never want them scared of Tristan, or and he's also so big.

特里斯坦六尺十寸高。

Tristan's six ten.

我明白小时候这些事都会影响孩子，所以我才主动承担管教的角色。

I just know all of those things as a kid plays a toll, so I am the disciplinary.

但这都是我有意为之的。

But that was done with intention.

是的。

Yeah.

我确实认真考虑过这一点。

And I was thoughtful about that.

不过等他们再大一点，我知道尤其是塔图姆，迟早会有那么一天，他根本不在乎我说什么。

But if, like, when they're older, I know especially Tatum, I know there's gonna be a time that it's probably he won't care what I say.

等他到了青春期，肯定会怕他爸。

Like, when he's a teenager, he'll be, like, he'll be afraid of his dad.

但现在，我还是喜欢当那个管教的人。

But for now, I like being the disciplinary.

我觉得这样最好，孩子们还是会觉得‘这是爸爸’。

And I just think it's the best way for the kids to still be like, it's daddy.

是的。

Yeah.

所有这些事儿都包括在内。

All of that jazz.

你知道我 personally 最喜欢的是什么吗？就是这些孩子之间的堂兄弟姐妹关系，对你自己和你的疗愈来说。

Do you love I know you love personally about all the cousins, like for yourself and your healing.

但你有没有觉得，这些孩子天生就有最好的玩伴？

But do you love that these kids have built in best friends?

你希望他们多交些外面的朋友吗？

Do you wish they had more outsider friends?

不。

No.

我喜欢所有孩子都愿意跟你待在一起。

I love I love that the fact that all the kids, like, like to spend time with you.

因为有些人可能会觉得，这有点像邪教。

Because it's like a some people might be like, oh, that's a little cultish.

我们不让他们离开。

We don't let them leave.

不。

No.

这根本不是邪教。

It's not cultish.

说实话，我只是不信任那些混蛋。

I think the reality is that I just, we just, like, to be honest, I just don't trust motherfuckers.

我也不信。

Me neither.

我对身边靠近我孩子的人从不放心，而且涉及孩子的事，我一点都不会马虎。

And I don't trust motherfuckers around my kids and I don't play around when it comes to my kids.

至少在侄子侄女这方面，我们经常在一起，也认识他们的父母，大家的情况都清楚，对吧？

At least when it comes to nieces and nephews, we spend a lot of time together and we know their parents and, you know, everyone can kind of be accounted for, right?

我们都知道发生了什么。

We know what's going on.

所以我特别喜欢这样。

So I love it.

我很高兴我们家这一圈人不断添丁，生下更多宝宝。

I love the fact that everyone is reproducing and putting more babies on this earth in our family circle.

生孩子这事真够疯狂的。

Reproducing is crazy.

我们要不要再生一个？

Should we have another one?

不要。

No.

好的。

Okay.

我没事。

I'm okay.

但我还剩下一些胚胎。

But I do have some more embryos.

是的。

Yeah.

我会想办法处理它们。

I'm gonna do something with them.

我来想办法。

I'll figure it out.

不管你打算

Whatever you're

你 anyway 已经把它们转给我了，所以我 legally 拥有它们。

You signed them over to me anyway, so I legally own them.

是的，你确实有。

Yes, you do.

好的。

Okay.

我们能聊点别的吗？

Can we talk about something for a second?

因为我认识的很多人，心里都有个想法——一个真正的心愿，藏了几个月，甚至好几年，一说起这事，眼睛都亮了。

Because I feel like so many people I know have an idea, like a real idea, something they have been sitting on for months, sometimes years, and they light up the second they start talking about it.

可之后就啥也没发生。

And then nothing happens.

他们总在等时机成熟，等自己准备好了，等所有事都安排得完美无缺。

They wait until the timing feels right or until they feel ready enough or until everything is perfectly figured out.

第一步最难走。

That first step is the hardest one.

我懂，因为开始的时候，真的让人觉得压力太大了。

And I get it because starting feels overwhelming.

你到底该从哪儿开始呢？

Where do you even begin?

又该怎么把它变成现实？

And how do you make it real?

这正是我这么喜欢Shopify的原因。

That is honestly why I love Shopify so much.

我的生意就是靠它建起来的，整个过程变得没那么吓人了。

It is the platform I built my business on, and it makes the whole thing so much less scary.

Shopify支撑着全球数百万家企业，占了美国电商总量的百分之十。

Shopify is behind millions of businesses around the world and powers 10% of all e commerce in The US.

从家喻户晓的大品牌，到有人在自家厨房桌上推出第一个产品，全都靠它。

From huge household names all the way down to someone launching their very first product from their kitchen table.

不管你处在什么阶段，它都能无缝对接，真正帮你搞定一切。

It meets you exactly where you are, and it genuinely does everything.

AI工具能帮你写产品描述、优化文案，甚至提升产品图片的质量。

The AI tools write your product descriptions, help with your copy, even enhance your product photos.

你直接在平台上就能发邮件和社交媒体推广，根本不需要配一个完整的营销团队。

You can run email and social campaigns right from the platform, so you do not need a whole marketing team behind you.

库存、支付、数据分析、物流、退货，全都集中在一个地方。

Inventory, payments, analytics, shipping, return, it is all in one place.

不用来回切换平台，也不用琢磨东西到底存哪儿了，而且他们的客服是24小时在线的——像我这种经常半夜处理事务的人，这点特别关键。

No jumping between platforms, no figuring out where anything lives, and their customer support is twenty four seven which as someone who is definitely handling things at midnight sometimes, that matters.

如果你一直在拖着没行动，现在就是最好的时机。

If you've been putting something off, this is your sign.

别再等别人给你批准才去做了。

Stop waiting for permission to build something.

是时候听听每个创业者都爱听的声音了。

It is time to hear the sound every entrepreneur loves.

叮叮。

Cha ching.

而Shopify，就是帮你实现这一切的工具。

And Shopify is how you get there.

今天就去 shopify.com/khloey 注册你的每月一美元试用版吧。

Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com/khloey.

就是 shopify.com/khloey。

That's shopify.com/khloey.

去开始做你的事吧。

Go start your thing.

shopify.com/khloey。

Shopify.com/khloey.

你们知道吗，我最近领养了一只小狗，叫薄荷，我根本没必要装作自己很正常。

You guys know I recently got a puppy, Peppermint, and I'm not even going to pretend I'm normal about it.

我完全接受自己已经成了那种典型的狗家长。

I fully accept that I've become one of those dog parents.

就是那种拍太多照片、跟狗说话像跟人聊天，结果狗的作息比我还规律的人。

The kind who takes way too many photos, talks to their dog like they're a person, and somehow she ends up having a better daily routine than I do.

薄荷在家里有好几张床，玩具轮着换，我甚至经常像照看小孩一样去检查她。

Peppermint already has multiple beds around the house, a rotation of toys, and honestly, I catch myself checking on her like she's a toddler.

但如果你也是养狗的人，我觉得你一定能懂。

But if you're a dog parent, I feel like you get it.

它们真的会变成家里的一分子。

They really do become a part of the family.

要说谁能理解这种痴迷，那一定是Ollie。

And if anyone understands that level of obsession, it's Ollie.

他们对你的狗的关心，一点都不亚于你。

They're just as obsessed with your dog as you are.

Ollie为狗狗制作新鲜餐食，由专业厨师研发，并有兽医营养师背书。

Ollie makes fresh food for dogs that's developed by real chefs and backed by vet nutritionists.

所以你的狗狗吃的是高品质的餐食，食材让你用得放心。

So, you know, your pup is getting high quality meals made with ingredients you can feel good about.

我特别喜欢的一点是，所有餐食都根据你的狗狗量身定制。

And what I love is that everything is personalized to your dog.

刚开始时，他们会根据狗狗的具体需求制定饮食计划，按份量为你配好每一餐。

When you start, they create a plan based on your dog's needs and portion the meals just for you.